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how is that teasing though? who laughed? because all I see is jk stans laughing because he stays giving them drag material against not only jimin but also v
again teasing at the expense of someone else will never be funny especially when the person involved doesn't even smile at said "joke"
you can tease in a way that isn't hurtful but it takes emotional intelligence that I guess not everyone has 🤷♀️
okay
#i dont have the energy#i dont act like jungkook in my personal life#i don’t like making jokes about my friends#but if someone made one about me#im not gonna freak out#i have a backbone#and so does jimin#jungkook is a little bitch#we’ve known this#but jimin is currently in the military with him so#i don’t think he’s so bothered#also what is so hurtful about what jungkook said#he basically called jimin a know it all#so what#whats next#calling jungkook an abuser because he chuckled at jimin calling a jacuzzi ‘scuzzi’
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Wow, color me shocked to see Jungkook on live the other day! Somehow, I just didn’t expect that, but it was nice to see his face. His new house seems so “him”. I mean, only Jungkook would build his own party room in the basement, lol!
Of course, me being…well, me… I started pondering. I’ll address one of my “ponders” here.
WARNING. OPINIONS or WILD GUESSES AHEAD!
Jungkook stayed true to form, mentioning Jimin (multiple times) and their time together in the military. I grinned ear to ear, I tell you! Of course, not everyone found it as endearing. TKKrs are currently screaming about how showering in the military is “communal, so stop making it something it isn’t!” It’s interesting to me that people (tkkrs) who clearly don’t know anything about the military, feel qualified to make bold statements about how things are. Like, they seem to think that Jikook’s experience is like they’ve seen in movies.
🎥 Scene: A bunch of sweaty soldiers, packed in like sardines in a bunk room. Just when the soldiers are getting comfortable, some super mean, screaming sergeant comes in with a bullhorn and yells for everyone to get into the shower together with two minutes to scrub down. Afterwards, JK scurries to the kitchen to peel a 5 foot high pile of potatoes while Jimin marches off to ride around in his tank, head poking out of the top. End scene 🎬
Sheesh. What they don’t seem to understand is that the military is very hierarchal. In the beginning, they enter a boot camp. Everyone is on the same level. They are stuffed together in a bunk room, they have communal showers, and I bet they even have screaming sergeants! But once that’s over, they move on to their assigned base and job. They are still the lowest rank, so they continue to live in a bunk room, most likely. It’s probably smaller, less crowded, less smelly, but still a bunk room. BUT. There is a saying….Rank has its privileges. Once they start ranking up, things change a bit. They get better living situations, potentially more privileges. The might move out of the bunk room and into a dorm situation like you see in college, with a small group living in a space with a communal living room and bathroom. Or they may move into smaller rooms with a roommate, sharing a bathroom. It just depends on the set up available. Once they reach corporal, things look up considerably.
So, based on the hierarchical nature of their situation (higher rank at the least), my bet is that they now have a more private living situation. I’m not saying there aren’t communal showers, because of course there are. But, if showering with the masses is avoidable, then they avoid it, trust me. I mean, as an Idol, I can’t imagine this would be much fun… 👇
Listen, I’m just enjoying picturing Jikook singing together at the top of their lungs in the shower. I bet the acoustics are great 😉
Anyway! Just my ramblings about the silliness de jour regarding Jimin and Jungkook.
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Are You Sure?! - Episode 5 observations
7.5/10 ☆
A couple fights over nothing in front of other people, creating an atmosphere full of tension. There's questions in the back of the audience's mind. What is underneath all that bickering? What lies under that perfect initial façade of a couple who knows everyting about what ticks the other one? They are rude, sometimes loud, sometimes they forget there's other people there. It makes a guest uncomfortable. So much so that the guest would rather leave than spend one more second there.
Is this Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf or Are You Sure?!
The Jeju trip has now ended. On a rather anticlimatic note, but a result of a day in which the need to actually stick to a format of a travel show went directly out the window. Another filler, in which the guest was ready to leave from the moment he woke up (which he did).
Episode 5 did not nothing but merely reinforce what we saw the previous day in terms of relationships dynamics. Which was to be expected. People don't change over night and they weren't put into situations that might allow for other facets to rise to the surface. Once again, Jimin and Jungkook are going about their day as a duo, as a team, as a couple, as bj brothers, you name it. The show had already been establishing that from day 1 of their trips around the world. There's the everpresent "we" and then everyone else surrounding them. From conversations at dinner, to spending time together at night, getting ready to go out or just staying indoors while one of them is taking a nap while the other is cooking nearby. Snapshots of a couple life.
One that bickers because of very stupid and silly reasons, but being together on the joke and knowing each other's boundary. A lot of people can spend years together and still wouldn't care when they cross the line.
I wanted a real fight and instead all I got was nonsense over spam or pink sausages. But I won't dwell too much on it because it's not necessary. Although it did add to the neverending list of Tedros not being able to understand the mood. He takes Jungkook's reaction seriously, he doesn't understand what Jimin is trying to say when he calls himself weaker on the boat (when Jimin did nothing but reveal his strength kink). It simply shows that his humor is not the same. And perhaps current mean spirited voices are a mirror of him, unable to take a step back and realize the nuances and meanings behind what people do and say.
There are now five weeks since AYS began. And somewhere between 5-6h of footage of Jimin and Jungkook which come after a long time of not seeing them together, despite knowing that they are together and have been throughout some major events in the last couple of years, which culminated with their joint enlistment (they might be forced to go, but it was a relief to hear them having a laugh about it in late September).
It is a shame though that the result of this show, which for some of us is a real treat as we finally get to see Jimin and Jungkook outside the specific type of silly BTS content, has also become an opportunity for complete denigration of this pair. In part by their own so-called fans. No one is forced to watch it. If the need to look for clues that reveal imaginary conflict or lack of closeness is the thing that gets them off, I'd rather not see it. Unfortunately, it is inescapable. These are people that do not deserve anything nice.
I'm excited for the final segment of the show and I want to cherish those next three weeks, even though it will all be over then. I hope there's a real return to the intimate component. Which doesn't meant fairytale happiness. It just means a glimpse into the last days of youth and freedom to be together in a way that had then to be put on hold as the harsh reality of forced "military adulthood" came knocking at the door.
#m thoughts#jikook#jikook travel show#jikook are you sure#there's lots I haven't covered#but I'll do it through answering some asks anyway
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From my drafts so it’s late but:
Today’s delulu thought is that Standing Next to You has too many lyrical coincidences to not be about Jimin.
🫣 I SAID IT WAS DELUSIONAL OKAY
You are free to disagree. You probably should 🤣
I mean we know it wasn’t written by Jung Kook but obviously the version he recorded was arranged with and for JK, and “leave your body golden” can’t be a coincidence right? Like it’s the whole ass album name, plus a word that carries connotations of JK himself, which the ppl who worked with him on Seven must have known.
So if that wasn’t a coincidence… then what about:
1. “How we left and right is something we control” — a callback to both Left and Right by CP feat JK, but also a nod to Butter, a massive BTS hit and a song that he performs alongside his boyfie bestie JM.
2. “When it’s deep like DNA, something they can’t take away” — a callback to another massive BTS hit, interesting. And *delulu warning* also reminds me of JM and JK’s extreme similarities that they themselves have referred to before?? They’re wired the same, they have the same sense of humor, they live and breathe for the same shit and even though they have some very key differences, they really do seem like twin flames (even if you just see it as platonic). They are similar in ways that seem braided into the fibers of their being. Like, in their DNA 🧬 some may say. *delulu warning #2* I’m also reminded of Jimin’s Letter lyrics: “After all this time has passed will we still be the same? Just like we were when we first met.”
Also, “something they can’t take away” is an interesting turn of phrase… more on that later.
3. Okay the real meaty part:
Screaming I’ll testify that we'll survive the test of time, they can't deny our love. They can't divide us, we'll survive the test of time I promise I'll be right here
[I seriously can’t believe how closeted-couple-coded this song is]
First off, again with the Letter lyrics mirrored here with the “test of time.” Then it’s got all this drama about being ripped apart and how it won’t happen and how they’ll be next to each other no matter what and that they have “something they can’t take away.”
Not only does all that line up with other Letter lyrics, but it is so goddamn dramatic and for what?
Be for real, what straight couple in this day and age would have this much working against them?? The only possible explanations are: 1) within the fantasy world of a song I suppose this could be some sort of Romeo and Juliet/West Side Story motif, and to be fair the music video did have a kind of rival gang/crime family look to it? Sort of? With the men fighting below the stage? Idk. Or it could be 2) the fact that idols do in fact often have to hide even their straight relationships, which is wild to me. But I know it’s a thing, so. I suppose there’s that. JK doesn’t seem the type though honestly. I think he’d be even more open about it than V.
On the other hand, the lyrics seem SO fit for a couple who are a) queer, b) closeted, c) currently in/about to be in a legislatively homophobic military and country (am I saying that right? Lol) and d) internationally famous pop idols in the SAME BAND who are both widely regarded as heterosexual sex symbols and would be shunned by many people in their homeland AND internationally if their queerness were to be revealed, much less if they were truly an item and THAT news broke.
Whew. That was a lot but like… that would be a real example of a relationship that would be VERY threatened by outside forces plotting against them and trying to separate them. Not JK and a hot blonde model, not him and a Korean actress, not basically any other scenario but a queer relationship.
Idk I know he didn’t write it but like ??? What the hell is that theme? I’m dying to get inside the mind of the people who DID write it, because are they or are they jikookers at this point like?!
4. Just for fun I’ll also point out the “leave your body golden like the sun and moon” 😏 like. Okay. At this point the songwriters are watching Jikook compilations, drooling over @slaaverin edits like convince me they’re not. CONVINCE ME.
5. “Deeper than the rain”?! “The pain”?! Alright I’m not even serious at this point but ??? Rainy day fight 🌧️?!?! 🤣🤣
6. “Standing next to you” oh you mean like… for 18 months? In a companion enlistment program? Like that?
Alright alright I’m done but you get my point. What even is this song if not an anthem of jikookery?! It’s more on-the-nose than Letter, more sneaky than Still With You. It wasn’t written by JK but at this point I’m calling that the songwriters are as delulu as me.
Hope y’all are well. If you made it to the end of this thank you for donning your tinfoil hat with me and I hope you at least got a giggle.
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In my purest delusions and unpopular opinions...a random list.
My delusions and opinions.
More for my own sanity: Jimin and Jungkook are safe and sound with trusted fellow soldiers surrounding them every day. They fulfill their daily activities and are feeling some level of accomplishment, satisfaction and pride through them. In my purest delusion, they are insulated from the negativity going on in the outside world due to their isolated location. They are only told what they need-to-know. Of course, they are up-to-the-minute informed about the things that are pertinent to their current duties but in my purest delusion, they are not aware of the vilest of vile things that have been going on. There is no need for them to be distracted by it at the moment.
Opinion: Hanteo Chart is corrupt and inaccurate because it is owned by Kakao which also owns SM Entertainment so that renders that chart meaningless. Regarding BTS or the members' winning any of these, the Fact Music Awards and VMAs are worthless because many of their awards are fan-voted and they use that for engagement. None of these awards have any impact on BTS's or the members' success. These days, they only serve the fans' egos. Though of course, for other groups who are not BTS, any award is important.
Opinion: Most people do not thoroughly process and comprehend what they read online. A lot of what the fandom believes is from the power of suggestion. Even I am influenced by this phenomenon. If I am very acutely interested and invested I will devour every detail of a situation, but as soon as my interest wanes, that energy dissipates and I just take what I read in headlines as the status of the situation (the power of suggestion) and it may or may not be 100% accurate.
Opinion: Social media posts that are not complete thoughts or sentences that are grammatically incorrect due to author error or lack of language/writing skills are easily misunderstood and have the ability to spread misinformation and misunderstanding which can be difficult and sometimes impossible to undo. Such is the nature of social media. Its the doom of humankind as we know it.
In my purest of delusions, when Jimin and Jungkook are discharged, they will move into that black metal fortress that Jungkook built. It is a huge structure with 5 floors and a beautifully landscaped outdoor area. Jungkook being a not very social person, there is no reason to have such a large house. His best friend/partner/lifelong significant other, will move in with him. They will live there peacefully behind those tall secure walls. Jungkook will exploit his newly acquired cooking skills to his heart's content in his wildly expensive and fully equipped kitchen. Bam will have the run of the house and a doggie door so he can go in and out whenever he wants.
Opinion: We must stop saying "we were cheated out of this," "we were deprived of seeing this between them," "they edited it, why didn't they show us all of it!" "when will they say this or tell us that?" It is not our right to claim ownership of things that are not ours. It is not ours to decide if we see things between Jimin and Jungkook. Those things belong to them. To claim we are being cheated is pure selfishness. Am I guilty of saying this? Yes. And its not right. I will do better. They show us A LOT. A LOT, A LOT already.
In my wildest and purest virgin delusion: Filming for Are You Sure? season 4 (Jungkook said Sapporo was season 3 so that's my reference point) will commence at some point after their military discharge, perhaps shortly after, over a long weekend in the U.S. in the Rocky Mountains somewhere where they can see snow of the likes they've never seen before, snowboard on slopes they can't imagine exist. Season 5 will be scheduled for Budapest where the group will be headed to film the comeback MV. Season 6 will be them exploring Busan during Christmas. And on and on. We have 12 seasons coming.
AND FURTHERMORE... this isn't delusional at all, its pure fact:
Who owns Weverse? Hybe. Whatever fees other artists pay to be on Weverse to host their activities there or Weverse shop to sell merch and albums... Weverse makes money, BTS members make money.
Among the many groups paying these fees to be on Weverse and Weverse Shop: EXO, Blackpink, PLAVE, NCT (all iterations), aespa, SHINee, NewJeans, Enhypen, Seventeen. Weverse makes money, BTS makes money. The latter three groups are active artists on Hybe's subsidiary labels. If those labels make a profit from their artists work, guess who else makes money? BTS members.
People who are still engaging in fandom pissing wars on X with other kpop fandoms... stop lowering yourselves to their level. Time to get out of the mud. Look up at the stratosphere instead because that's where our men exist. Reflect on that instead of engaging in nonsensical fan war fighting.
Get yo ass outta trunk.
I don't know what else Namjoon can say to you guys for you to get your head out of your asses and get with the program. We are moving in different circles here, you either keep up or stay behind.
LASTLY, a legit question. At what point in a man's life, in a Korean man's life, in a Korean male idol's life... is it NOT ok to snuggle or cuddle with their male friend? Or even their biological brother? When is it crossing the line and no longer considered acceptable behavior? When do Koreans believe it is time to stop that sort of behavior? When men are in the 20s? 30s? 50s? Is there such a point? Or do Korean idols get a pass because of what they do for a living? Because I don't see other Korean men of any age doing what Jimin and Jungkook do. Ever. Just sayin.
#whew that was a lot of nonsense glad its out of my head#delusional meanderings#i am delusional and dont care if anyone else knows about it#sorry if it was convoluted and confusing#welcome to my world#thank you for humoring me#jimin#jungkook#jikook#kookmin#are you sure?#i didnt post this to start arguments sorry
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I hate the 'Jimin didn't ask, if he had, Hybe would happily oblige' idea. As if we don't have an example of Jimin asking for something and being denied so hard he apologized for asking. And having the visual album would have been way more important to Jimin than having CDs or pre-orders, which means he would have done all he could to try and get it, but it still didn't work. So what makes people think Jimin asking would change anything?
And even if he didn't ask, he shouldn't have to. What do you mean an artist who's currently in the in military has to make sure he explicitly ask his company and label to give him very basic stuff one would assume is default, because otherside his company won't do anything. That sounds like weaponized incompetence and people are trying to let them get away with it.
Like, what's the point of having a company if they're not gonna do their job unless you beg them to. And EVEN then, that might still not work.
Imagine you hire someone to build you a house but for some reason they don't build the foundations for the walls. Then when you're like "Wtf is this?!" they answer with "But you didn't ask!". Bitch, that's your job! I don't have to ASK you to do something that was assumed you would already do because it's a very basic part of your job. What the hell am I paying you for?
Because let's not forget Hybe IS getting paid. They get a cut of everything Jimin does. They're not doing this for free as a favor to Jimin, they have a literal contract, so it's their obligation to do things correctly.
I'll repeat for the stupid people in the crowd: This is their OBLIGATION, not an optional favor.
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Chameleon Park Jimin 7
My Chameleon Park Jimin (PJM) Series (<link) [Parts 1-6] discusses the emotional, physical, & professional growth, adjustments, and changes Jimin has endured and experienced during his BTS journey, as I see it.
Pausing for military enlistment and preparing material for promotions in absentia (Re: The guys would not be around to physically promote their own work.) was new to BTS members and to the company - SORT OF. I say “sort of” because little did everyone know that while the crazy Covid-19 quarantine was horrific and schedule-destroying, it did give them unexpected practice in how to present material when unable to meet fans in person.
A portion of BTS’s meteoric rise in success and popularity occurred when they continued to put out an extensive collection of work during the global shut down. They streamed concerts, filmed multiple versions of performances, self-produced an album (BE) [~1 minute & playlist], and experimented with all English songs. Many of these skills would become extremely informative for their solo albums and the promotional plans to be used in their absence.
There were other issues, which I described in the previous sections, that carried over from Jimin’s difficult BTS journey that still needed attention. Fans have learned that Jimin is the type of person who does not back down from a challenge or an obstacle. He learns from situations and figures out a way to tackle the problem with persistence and then move on.
With that said, during Jimin's FACE promotional period, a mishap occurred that must have flashed him all the way back to the early days when the lack of vocal training exposed itself on occasion. Back then the hateful public tore into him and never let him forget it, even to present time.
The problem
All of the stories I mentioned in parts 1-5 had taken their toll on Jimin’s psyche. Even though he persevered diligently, the experiences seemed to make him weary of public opinion and response. The current mishap was not a vocal problem as much as a technical one, but for those wanting any reason to be unkind, it was assessed as the same.
At music shows when someone wins an award, they are expected to do a spontaneous encore performance. BTS has done many hilarious and memorable variations of encore moments throughout the years. That means the crew has to quickly turn on the microphones and the playback and feedback devices of whoever was suddenly announced as the winner.
After winning one of his music show awards for Like Crazy, Jimin’s earpiece didn’t appear to be working or they hadn’t connected it yet, so when Jimin sang - without being able to hear the music over the resulting commotion well or at all - it appeared off key.
Now, I am not a conspiracy theory fan, but music shows are a business, and Korea’s movies aren’t labeled K-dramas for nothing. With that said, music shows are also a business that wasn’t always kind to BTS, and high ratings or excitable discussion wouldn’t hurt their bottom line. It’s possible it was an accidental, technical mishap or possibly an intentional one. Either way, the damage was done. The public ripped into JM again, demeaning him again - about his live vocal ability, in spite of the many good performances he did throughout his career and even during the present promotional period.
Didn't they recall that he had never received vocal training even though he debuted as a lead singer? Didn't they recall that JK mentioned that Jimin didn’t seem to have time to receive vocal lessons with their continually crowded schedule? Didn't they recall all the many more times that Jimin performed high notes and difficult vocal passages oftentimes while dancing difficult choreography?
Probably many did know about Jimin's circumstances and many more didn't care. I have myself considered why Jimin didn’t get the vocal lessons in the first place and why he did not later get full vocal lessons as Jin appears to have done at some point. Jin used to strain in a way that looked painful but got better after what seemed to be additional vocal training. Jimin would use JK, his younger peer, as a voice coach. JKs voice is vastly different from Jimin’s, and JK is not a vocal expert, although his assistance may have helped to some degree. Important Note: Jimin is also 1 of 3 members of BTS’s dance line (3J), which Jin is not, so Jimin may not have had the extra time to fit in vocal lessons, as he is a main dancer and lead singer in the group.
Anyway, after that event, Jimin stated during a WeLive that he was going to take voice lessons from scratch. Previous lack of time and neglect by the company are 2 reasons I suspect that he likely didn’t get complete lessons before. He has mentioned occasional bouts of lessons every once in a while in more recent times, but never full vocal-building lessons.
Jimin had also gotten a lot better over time from experience. Regardless of the improvement, I could not tell if he was singing in a way that would cause eventual harm to his vocal cords or not. A vocal teacher he finally met with recently did say the way he was singing was not sustainable without eventual vocal harm. This is not surprising since he pretty much taught himself.
Jimin confronts the problem
Since Jimin was running out of time before enlistment, and he was still busy recording and creating content, we found out later, he was only able to fit in 2.5 months of concentrated voice lessons (set to mark, ~2 minutes), but he was able to use that new instruction with the songs and performances for his 2nd solo album, that fans did not yet know was happening.
As time continued to pass, military enlistment was growing closer by the day. The remaining members were continuing to get things in order for the full absence of all 7 members from civilian life. By now, Suga’s world tour, which was one of his solo activities, was coming to an end. Jimin had supported the kick off of the tour at the start, and then he and the maknae (young) line showed up together at the final concert in Seoul (set to mark, ~8 minutes) in order to support the close of Suga’s tour. Jimin showed up with the same type of loose clothes, hair, hat, and mask that had become his new, off-stage style, and he seemed very relaxed, comfortable, and happy.
Suga’s concert tour was so successful that additional encore concerts were planned in Seoul. Suga invited non-enlisted BTS members to perform on each encore night (for the fans and for promotional opportunities for each member), and in spite of the problematic, live music show performance and backlash, Jimin accepted the invitation.
For Suga’s encore stage, Jimin seemed nervous to perform before the live audience. His nervousness [Set to mark, ~1 minute] when performing live is not unusual for him, regardless of this new situation, but this was his first live performance before an audience since the music show mishap, which I’ve already stated had less to do with his voice and more to do with the in-ear device used for the playback music, BUT either way, we all had hoped those agonizing days were over. The haters had again ratcheted up the volume on the old criticism of Jimin’s live vocals.
Many fans would have understood if Jimin had chosen to bypass another opportunity for the mean-spirited public to comment about his performance, but Jimin is known to persevere regardless of whether the obstacles are public or private. He tends to face his challenges head on.
Suga has often remarked about Jimin's hard work and persistence [set to mark, ~ 2 minutes] . He had a front row seat to Jimin's journey and all that Jimin had worked to overcome and achieve.
Click picture to enlarge in order to read translation.
As someone who never explains (much) or makes excuses, Jimin didn’t blame the music show mishap on the technical issues of the in-ear device or the lack of training by the company. But what he did do was to show up for Suga’s encore stage and slay (set to mark, ~6 minutes), reprising the highly anticipated Tony Montana duet with Suga after 7 long years, as well as singing and dancing his current solo hit, Like Crazy.
As Jimin said in his own self-written song Set Me Free, Part 2 (FACE), ‘even if they mock me, I'll never stop’. Jimin does not back away from challenges. He conquers them.
TO BE CONTINUED in Part 8 (<link): End of 2023 - more conquering, #ThisIsJimin, Are You Sure!?…
#Jimin#Park Jimin#BTS Jimin#Bangtan Jimin#Soloist Jimin#Chameleon Park Jimin 7#Thank you NikonLadyz4 for feedback!
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I too wondered about Jimin’s comment about posting from the military. My first thought was Jimin was ripped apart on social media for even mentioning Jungkook in his first letter to Army and he’s being cautious now.
With his second album and Are You Sure both releasing he doesn’t want to attract more hate, criticism and provoke further attention to his relationship with Jungkook. Perhaps the haters sending emails and letters to protect Jungkook from Jimin and his “gay behavior” 🙄 has caused the military a lot of grief so they’ve heavily suggested Jimin focus on his duty and not the fandom?
Hi, how are you?
Respectfully, I must say that I disagree with everything you said.
As fans, we should respect and see Jimin and Jungkook as individuals first, and this means that the decisions they make won't always involve each other.
I believe Jimin's comment about being careful with what he posts now that he is a soldier is more related to the fact that he is in the military and that his unit is in a dangerous location. I also think it has to do with the respect Jimin has for his current stage in life and the institution he is part of.
If the issue were his posts about Jungkook, he simply wouldn’t need to post about him, but that is not the case. Assuming that all of Jimin's potential posts would be about or involve Jungkook is somewhat disrespectful, in my opinion.
Apart from the above, I think the reason Jimin isn’t posting as much as other members is that he has almost become allergic to social media. We must remember that before enlisting, he rarely posted on his official accounts. Yes, he posted more during FACE era, but the circumstances were obviously different.
I want to believe that the military wouldn't be so intrusive as to order a soldier not to post on their personal social media accounts. It would be unfair to punish Jimin for the actions of others.
I also find it interesting how we don’t question why Jungkook isn’t posting anything either. Yes, he made a post on Weverse when his latest song came out, but Jimin also made a post on Weverse and another on Instagram—I think it was two, but I'm not sure. Jungkook doesn’t technically have Instagram, but he has Weverse and TikTok, as well as Bam’s account.
I think as fans, we often expect more from Jimin than from other members, which often shows that we don’t pay attention to who Jimin really is.
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the worst thing v gets is being called a leech and attention seeker which is what tkkers had been calling jm FOR YEARS. while disliking v because of shippers is petty it’s incredibly interesting how many jikookers had been defending v in the last few weeks while it’s complete silence within tkkers, youll never catch any of them defend jm
That's because a lot of Jikookers don't need to falsify reality in order to represent a certain agenda. Jikookers can be the bigger person if they need to be.
As someone who is truthfully OT7, I don't sit here hoping that hate trains form around someone that I see to be a "threat" to my ship. If I'm being completely honest, I think trying to consume Are You Sure?! from purely a shipping point of view is entirely counterproductive and not a good way to enjoy content. I think it's fun to gush over certain moments, but if you're only parked outside Disney+ or whatever streaming you're allegedly pirating it from just to see your ship in action... you're opening yourself to form biases and bitter feelings toward things that might not be directly encompassed within your ship's boundaries.
This is why I made a call out post whenever certain jikookers resorted to bullying Taehyung whenever they saw that he was going to be a guest on the show. Though I already hear people coming, saying "Oh, but taekookers are bullying Jimin to hell and back, so why can't we?"
Well maybe you shouldn't because it shows that you have the representative IQ of a toad. So let me get this straight, people who are NOT Taehyung bully Jimin... your first course of action is to... bully Taehyung? I think reciprocal hate is incredibly stupid and unwarranted. If I'm going to shit on the behavior of taekookers, guess who I'm gonna take it out on? That's right, I'm going to take it out on taekookers -- not Kim Taehyung.
Taehyung is currently serving in the military, so I doubt he's logging onto Twitter or Tumblr or whatever to say nasty things about his BEST FRIEND. I think people tend to forget that Jimin and Taehyung are tied at the hip and have an entire song where they wax poetry about how much they care about one another...
Anyways.
A lot of Taekookers live in another facet of reality, so in order to make half of their agenda true, Jungkook has to dislike Jimin, the company has to be forcing their fanservice, Jungkook's mother had to have been sent a script beforehand to ask about Jimin, Taehyung was lying about only seeing the trip details a few days before departure, Jungkook was holding Taehyung's waist in this screenshot (but don't look at the footage where it shows otherwise!), Jungkook only acts "cold" (if being humorously bratty is considered cold) toward him in certain scenes because the producers want Jikook to appear more real, HYBE has some joint contract with the South Korean military to put Jimin and Jungkook together in order to hide the real gay couple that is Taekook--
The more you dive into their rhetoric, the less it makes sense. Taekookers also argue with LITERAL KOREAN PEOPLE about translations in the show. Also it's super funny to see them shift from the narrative that she show is scripted to suddenly saying -- no, it's not scripted, to then saying this part is scripted, to then saying, no the whole thing is scripted again, to then saying, actually at this time stamp they went off the script and--
Fucking crazy.
I think what I noticed the most about a lot of taekooker's rhetoric is that in order for something to be true, they need to create a lie or insult the intelligence of both Taehyung and Jungkook.
So you're telling me that two grown men have to lie about who they're with and what they're doing in order to make your ship real? You're telling me that Jungkook and Taehyung are not intelligent enough to negotiate their contracts or what type of "fanservice" they have to engage with on the regular? You're telling me that Jungkook lied about who he saw on his birthday in order to protect Taehyung? You're telling me that after ten years of being in the same group, Jungkook is actually uncomfortable with Jimin but still decided to get a matching tattoo with him and all the other members? You're telling me that the homophobic country of South Korea is willing to hide a gay couple by endorsing a manufactured gay couple? In the military? Where gay people are famously treated well?
That's sarcasm, for anyone who might lack reading comprehension.
Taekookers are the literal embodiment of that one post where the person is like "source(s): trust me bro" because half of what they spit out makes no fucking sense and is actually insulting to Taehyung and Jungkook. Like y'all constantly insult their intelligence and their free will and make it seem like they're trapped behind bars and don't have enough money or power to negotiate what THEY want. I've even seen certain taekookers become Jungkook antis after Are You Sure?! came out because they think he's being mean to or bullying Taehyung.
God, the lights are on but nobody is home.
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What’s interesting is how jimin is taehyungs “soulmate” but Tae never mentions jimin in lives, never really comments on his posts or lives.
Taehyung will mention Jungkook any single chance he gets on posts & live like if he doesn’t he will lose his community.
Jungkook will mention jimin any chance he gets, comments on posts & comments on his lives but rarely Taehyung.
Jimin will rarely mention any of them maybe once in 2-3 lives. Only comments on jks lives, no tae’s. (Only mentioned Tae twice in like 6 lives) (Jungkook once or twice if asked to say he hasn’t seen him/comment about watching his live ect) He mostly talks about suga, Jin, Hobi.
The dynamic is confusing and interesting. It’s like….
Taehyung > Jungkook
Jungkook > Jimin
Jimin > Jin, Suga, Hobi (+ JK)
Jimin hasn’t met up with Taehyung twice now (didn’t wait at the airport, didn’t text or call, randomly posted on weverse instead of just texting Taehyung + didn’t show up to work out with him)
Like is V desperate for JK to appear his best friend but JK seems to only talk about jimin and wanting to hang with him and jimin is mostly spending time with members at hybe & working on stuff. So it’s like what are their dynamics as of now.
I feel like this one is going to be long and wordy and perhaps all over the place. It is what it is. Lol.
Ok, so let's start with your base line @malecsma1a , which to me is wrong when it comes to JM. JM does mention JK. He seeks out comments about him to have a reason to, but also talks about him or listens to his songs or comments on his lives (actively seeking JK out). JM is way more careful than JK, who in an essence doesn't give a flying fuck what people think of him. The only reason JK hasn't done more at this point is because he's respectful of his partners wishes. A partner that at this point in time is not ready to make that move yet. It's their current contracts with the company, it's their looming military service, it's their families, it's the fandom, it's who knows what it is, he's just not ready for that yet.
So JM is cautious and he goes with the easy subjects to talk about, initiating talk about, Jin and Hobi. Suga not so much (unless it was during their promotional period). I'm trying to think when he talked about RM last, and the only thing I can think of is during his Billboard #1 live telling us RM congratulated him. I might be wrong.
Anyway, JM initiates talk about them cause they are easy. Easy subjects, easy connections, just easy. Or, more like safe.
As for JK, ooh he wants to talk about him, he's itching to talk about him. You can see it in this pre-release lives when he seeks out the comments about JK and answers them or he listens to Euphoria and doesn't stop talking about JK. Did you see how happy JM was during his post recording live when JK spammed his comments? It's just that JM needs a reason to be able to talk about JK, cause you know, Jikook are kind of a taboo subject. Brining up JK out of nowhere for JM is a landmine, a ticking bomb, so he's careful. I just wanted to clear that up. If JM doesn't mention JK it's not for lack of wanting to. JK is on his mind just like JM is on JK's.
That's the JM baseline.
Now let's please move on with another baseline statement that you haven't mentioned, one that HAS to be said time and time again.
Not seeing it or hearing it happen, most certainly does not mean it isn't or didn't happen.
That one is lacking in your ask.
It feels like you are making assumptions on relationships based on the very very limited public interaction we are getting from them.
Many a times we hear from the members about messages they have sent each other on their chat group or privately, messages we would have zero knowledge about if not for them telling us about them. How many interactions like that don't they tell us about do you think? I can tell you without any doubt that 99.9% of their interactions with each other are unknown to us. Online and off. And this definitely includes JM and Tae and most obviously JK and JM.
You mention 2 interactions between JM and Tae. The first we wouldn't even know about if not for Tae telling us during his live. The second we wouldn't have know about either if not for JM's cheeky Weverse post and Tae's snappy answer. How many more interactions are there that neither shared with us? We have no way of knowing. As for the airport Weverse interaction, it's obvious that they weren't going to be riding home together, as there were 2 cars waiting for them. So maybe say hi at the airport on the way out or something like that. JM had a skip in his walk, he was excited to get to the car and home (to someone else that was probably just a little more important to him) so he decided not to wait for Tae. Oopsy. These conversations they have on Weverse are for our benefit. They are done for the fans, period. Because again, we all know they have their group chat and each other's phones. Maybe they do it to show all's well between them, because of the buzz about things not being ok, maybe another way of keeping in contact with the fans, Idk.
I digress.
Your bottom line question was about the dynamics. How they have changed? Have they changed?
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Idk what is going on, if there is something going on, between JM and Tae.
We know about two times they didn't end up getting together. But we know they were planning to, and at the same time we don't know if there are other times they did meet up.
We can also deduct from those two times that they are obviously on speaking terms.
You are right to say that Tae barely mentions JM. He didn't even congratulate him publicly on his solo album nor his Billboard #1, and that is strange for someone that is his supposed soulmate. But this could be something done in agreement with JM. We just don't know. I do not want to make assumptions about the state of their relationship with near to no information. JK is obviously ok with Tae. And dare I say that I don't think he would be so ok with Tae if Tae did something to badly hurt JM? Because even without seeing them in one frame for months now, JK has made it abundantly clear who his no. 1 priority is, and that's JM.
Taekook
JK has clearly gotten closer with Tae since their 2020 issues. It's taken some time, and I do think that JM being less available during his preparations for the album and promotions brought them closer still. But when I say close, it's by no means as close as he is with JM. Dare I also say that the kind of closeness is also different. It's a matehood kind of closeness. It's them being those friends that play online video games together, that go out once in a while with friends, for fun, for company. I really don't think there is more to that friendship. Tae is not someone JK finds solace in. The people he would turn to would be first and utmost JM, then perhaps Hobi and Jin. Tae is fun and games. A good distraction when there was no schedule, when he was off quilter, when JM was gone (in a sense, not really, but also not as available to him as he was used to up until not too long ago).
And we have Tae and his ever so often one sided mention of JK (one sided cause like you said, we barely have the same from JK). Is JK the only member he's in touch with? I doubt it. I have 1001 things going through my head right now as to why Tae is doing this. Sadly, none of them are him being genuine. I'm sorry. I love him, but this thing he's been doing, the one that even the best of ours (and I'm not including myself in that group, cause I was seeing it before and not loving it too much) are starting to question his motives about, it feels wrong. And it's not because of him championing his friendship with JK, which good for them, I'm happy they had each other to fall to when everyone else was super busy. It's the timing, it's the way he does it. Maybe if he wasn't so damn obvious about it, maybe if he was more suave, sophisticated in the way he was doing it. But he's not. I think he needs to take a lesson or two from JK, Mr. JM spoiler king and champion fan and supporter.
So, friends yes. Nothing more nothing less. Oh, and did I talk about what the company might be pushing here? No? Maybe I better not at this point. Maybe I better wait and see how things turn out, cause even if this is what the company wants, the big unknown here is just how much JK will comply.
Jikook
As for Jikook. Those two are as good as ever. Good as gold. They are doing private right now. Here we come to that ever so important baseline you forgot about: not seeing them doesn't mean they aren't there nor does it mean that they are not happening.
Here's one of the times I've talked about what we aren't seeing and why it means absolutely nothing:
I've talked about this multiple times, but this is the one I found on the run.
Remember back in mid 2022, after they went on a very long break, when there was all the talk about Jikook not interacting on SM, not being seen out together? Remember that? "Jikook have broken up" was all over the place (just like it was a second before JM's album release and JK's "have no mistake I love JM" lives) . Including coming from the usual insecure Jikookers that need the two to prove time and time again they are in a relationship (cause that's how life is isn't it? We have to prove to our surroundings that we are together otherwise we aren't?). Anyway, then we had the Seoul concerts, they were more than fine, LV, omg they were on fire, new tattoos included. Got back from LV and again that roller coaster of them not being seen together not interacting was in a loop. Good thing we had our president of the Jikook fan club to post from Washington showing us them out together. Good thing we had the JITB party BTB to show us the talk about them not interacting in the party were bull crap. Once again, seeing that content should have taught us a lesson - not seeing them initially in the clips and photos leaking from the party (well almost not seeing them, cause we did have that clipet (clip + snippet) of them in the corner JK's hand on JM's waist) doesn't mean they weren't doing their thing. You know, in the dark corner JK embracing JM's hand and all... and there was more. Believe me there was so much more that went on in that party that we haven't seen on tape.
Not seeing it doesn't mean it's not happening.
And before Busan, and then after Busan and before JM's album release, see the pattern?
JM and JK they are intimate. We kind of know it, let's not kid anyone. They have been together for years, they are sexually active, they are a long term couple. Yet, we have never seen them even so far as kiss have we? Does that mean they didn't or don't? I don't like talking about this stuff here, cause it's private, it's theirs, and that's why I'm stopping at the very innocent example of kissing, but I'm trying to make a point here. We don't see what they do 99% of the time, and I'd say since the hiatus it's already 99.9% of the time.
And yet, JK in the past few months, since Feb 2023, and even more so since mid March 2023 (his white day live) is telling us everything (in the way that he can at the moment). He's telling us they are still very much ok. He's telling us he knows stuff that we don't, stuff that he wouldn't know if they were not still very close. He's showing us just how much he cares for JM, how much he loves and supports him. He's telling us they are seeing each other, even if we don't know they are.
And JM in one song, in which he included JK, told us (so yes, the song is for us in the essence of him wanting us to know, but the letter is addressed to JK) how deep his feelings are for JK and that they are forever. JK joined him on that one.
They are good.
They are forever.
They both told each other and us that.
Look, I know you miss them. Miss seeing them. Miss seeing their interactions. I do too. So so much. Cause they are just happiness and hope all in one. Seeing their interactions, seeing how much love there is there it's precious and I miss it so much. But I'm not making the mistake, and don't you either, of concluding that not seeing these interactions means they aren't happening. They just aren't showing them to us, in the content that is.
There are a few reasons that come to mind as to why the company is doing this, although sorry but they are just being stupid. The lack of Jikook content at this point is more suspicious than any kind of content they might have had together under official supervision. For two obviously very close people, whatever label you want to attach to them, the lack of official content is screaming "why the fuck aren't they paired together?"
Not to mention the irrevocable fact that they are the two with the most electrifying chemistry. There is a reason that they used to be constantly paired together. They just work.
The company are the ones pushing these units and they have done so since the hiatus. It's Jihope and Yoonmin on the one hand and Taekook on the other.
The rhythm of Korea with BTS was one of the more obvious to see this agenda and the fact that it was JM and Suga chosen to champion Busan, yeah, felt weird to me.
Was there supposed to be chemistry? If there was, I didn't see it.
Side note: Notice how JM is wearing his special necklace in this official content. He doesn't do that. They are styled for these kind of clips. I do think that was a statement. Maybe not one necessarily for us.
In any case, that is one example.
You want another one?
JM's dance practice BTB is another. We wouldn't have seen JK there if not for JM's comment during his live about JK coming to see him practice. That BTB felt rushed and the JK part of it was evidently highly edited. Take what they show us there, less of a minute of JK being there, not even showing us his arrival (which means not showing us JM's reaction to his arrival), and compare it to the edit of Hobi coming to visit JM during the Like Crazy MV shoot. One pairing obviously being highlighted (oh, for months), the other downplayed.
There is more. All in the name of Hybe's end game. Yes, I really don't think this is being done to protect them. And I also don't think this is coming from them. If it was, JK wouldn't have rebelled the way he has against the company. JK's a good boy, he's compliant as a whole, but he is also a non conformist, and has his limits and he is being held back for too long. There are things they want to do and they aren't allowed to, and what we've seen in the past couple of months from them is their form of rebellion. What they are allowing themselves to do at the moment. JK deleting his IG. Make no mistake, that was his big fuck you to the company. His lives, not giving a fuck. Him supporting JM in the way he can being the loudest that he can under the circumstances. JM showing up in JK's comments but not only showing up, openly flirting with him. This was them saying "absolutely nothing has changed between us".
I told you this was going to be unnecessarily long, didn't I?
Well, bottom line is that I don't think the dynamics between JM and JK have changed, they are same old same old.
And to be truthful, I don't think that the dynamics between JK and Tae have changed either. Yes, they are closer in the sense that when JM is away JK is spending more time with Tae (either online or meeting up). They spend more time together but make no mistake, the dynamic is the same as it always was with those two, you could clearly see that in that Feb live when Tae showed up in JK's comments and then they went live on IG.
There are those that don't like me comparing, but I love to compare, cause that's how you know it's different, right?
The silence moments between JK and Tae in that live were outright awkward.
Then take the last time we had Jikook in a live together - JM's birthday back in October 2021, a Jikook masterpiece, lol. Their silences are electrifying.
It's the difference between staying quiet cause you have nothing you really want to or know to say and staying quiet because you want to say everything but are worried it will be too much.
Those dynamics were there before, and they are still there.
Did I forget someone?
Oh yes, Vmin.
Yeah, I have no idea. Those two are keeping us in the dark. Many think there is something weird going on with them. Could be. Could also be that everything is fine and they are just not talking about each other.
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As delusional as they are, it’s kind of interesting watching Tkkrs construct their version of events in real time.
I’m usually working when an episode of AYS airs, so I always see their take on things hours later, and after already having seen other people’s opinions. But to be one of the people who watched it a little earlier, so I saw the scenes before seeing anyone else’s opinions, I can genuinely say, it’s honestly almost fascinating to watch them squirm.
People can think whatever they want about JM and JK and their bond, but to see Tkkrs go from “Jimin was the third wheel!” as they cropped him out of stills or as they claimed Tkk were cuddled up despite it being a quick photo, last week to seeing how they are almost completely ignoring the show this week is wildly funny.
The Jikook tag on Twitter is currently a lot of “Jokers will always be Tae’s number one fan!” “Jokers can’t keep Tae’s name out their mouth!” “Even after all their so-called moments, Jokers only care about Tae!” even though there aren’t actually a lot of Tae centered posts coming from Jikookers. And when they’re not trying to claim Jikookers are for whatever reason focused on Tae, they’re saying all the Jikook moments that happened this episode don’t matter, because Tae and JK went on a trip without cameras, while Jimin and Jungkook said in episode one they hadn’t seen each other in a bit.
I don’t know. It just really interests me how they are so comfortable and so confident in how they decide what matters and what doesn’t, and how they twist whatever else is left to be in their favor. Are You Sure? was scripted bullshit for a year, plus the first two episodes. Episode three was proof JK actually wanted Tae, and Jimin was the tagalong. Now episode 4 is irrelevant because Tkk went on a trip last year or whenever, without filming it.
Their reasoning is so extremely unreasonable, lol. Because why watch a show you know revolves around two members you hate seeing interact? At the same time though, them watching the show and being so angry at JM and JK and Jikookers tells me they really do understand where plenty of Jikookers are coming from.
Not shipping Jikook is fine. Disliking the idea that Jikook are together is fine, but it doesn’t make them any less questionable, and I think people who are watching the show are realizing that more and more.
Jimin and Jungkook went from being attached at the hip during the duration of the group being active. When they paused to enlist, JM and JK, in their own words, drifted. Again in their own words, JM and JK realized they weren’t seeing each other often and decided to rectify that by blocking out a long weekend to go on vacation with just the two of them, and chose to document it. Upon having fun, they decided to extend their filming and vacation in more places, again, just the two of them. Once the show was complete, JM and JK did not then go back their separate ways. They enlisted in the military as a collective unit. A choice they made prior to their vacationing being done.
The entire existence of AYS is honestly just a reminder of how much the two of them value their relationship, whatever it may be. Episodes 1, 2, and 4 specifically. They show how much they enjoy being in each other's space, and how much they click with one another, even though they have close and loving relationships with the other members.
So seeing Tkkrs seemingly come to genuinely understand that, yet hate it, is quite a thing to witness. None of us know the status of JM and JK’s relationship, and we honesty don’t need to. But to watch Tkkrs realize it is fully not at all what they want it to be (as in, Jungkook hates Jimin and Tae is the person he prefers to be with) is something to behold. Because no matter how angry they get, what new scenarios they create, or how much they ignore, the reality is what it is.
Jimin and Jungkook want to be around each other, and they enjoy being around each other. They make each other laugh and smile, and people who watch them together in their actual lives, all agree that they click. I would say I hope Tkkrs come around someday, but I think it’s too late. They’ve made up their minds and will never see the joy JM and JK bring each other, because they’ve built an entirely different world in their heads about what’s going on
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What is it gonna take for HYBE to give Jimin the support he deserves? Will it ever even happen? Because I'm tired of feeling so miserable all the time. I even wanna delete all my socials and just find something else in my life to fixate on. I feel terrible for feeling this way because it's like I'm abandoning Jimin (even if I'll still be streaming his music). I'm tired of all of this, it's not good for my mental health at all.
All this corruption and evil simply can't keep winning like this, can it? Are we just supposed to make peace with JK being BTS' "break out star"? Really? I naïvely thought that they'd abandon their sinister plans after seeing how poorly he's been performing in comparison to the crazy amount of push they've been giving him. What the hell is going on at that company?
Anon,
I'm sharing with you this poor quality video of Michael Jackson calling out Tommy Mottola and Sony because it's worth remembering that record labels using and abusing their artists is the rule, not the exception. Not even The King of Pop was immune.
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At around 3:20, MJ mentions that he "owes" the label two more songs and then he's a free agent. He says he writes about 120 songs per album, so he'll just pick two songs he's got hanging around and then he's done.
I bring this up because I suspect Jimin might be doing something similar. Having as few solo songs under Big Hit as possible is smart, because he likely won't own the rights to his own music if/when he leaves. The less they own, the better. Writing and recording two albums at once was efficient. Also, by keeping his marketing budget (ads, playlist placement, music videos, etc.) as small as possible, he'll keep more of the album sales and streaming revenue. All those expensive marketing costs are deducted from an artist's earnings, so best to keep them at a minimum if the plan is to make the most money possible. Between the writing credits, lower marketing budget, and the high profile brand ambassador deals Jimin's got, I feel like he's positioning himself to create his own company or label. This is my hope even if I have zero proof.
The way FACE went down really bothered me. I knew the company was behind Jimin's sabotage immediately and it drove me crazy that it took so long for others to catch up. But look at the response to MUSE. Jimin really does have an army of dedicated fans who are calling out the company's (intentional) incompetence 24/7. In reality, it's fun to watch PJMs catch the company and create a stink. It's almost like a game. Don't take it too seriously. Plus, in the long run, who cares about charts? The quality of the music itself is far more important.
Once again I've droned on way too long, but hear me out. I think HYBE/BH is investing so heavily in JK because they have to. BTS isn't going to last forever, and if Jimin leaves, they've lost a huge revenue source. But please trust me when I say they have an uphill battle before them because JK doesn't currently have the artistry or charisma to enthrall the west the way Jimin does. Don't expect them to abandon ship anytime soon, though. And if he does make it big, so be it.
I really wish BTS fans, or at least PJMs, didn't feel so much hate for Min Hee Jin because there's a lot to learn about Bang Si-hyuk and HYBE when you follow the whole ADOR saga. There are some astute NewJeans fans out there who've sized up Bang PD so well and their observations help explain Jimin's treatment by the company. He breaks people down (the idols, staff, and fans) using the "death by a thousand cuts" method. Endless small transgressions and slights, that individually appear like no big deal and are therefore not taken seriously by the media or fans, but collectively are detrimental to careers and one's mental health.
You know what? If Jimin announced he's leaving the music industry after military service, I would say congratulations and thank you for all the amazing music and performances during your BTS and solo career. Have a wonderful life! While I don't think he'll do that, it's worth remembering that none of this is all that serious. Enjoy his music. Take a break from social media, because in the real world nobody cares about this stuff.
Anon, did you make to the end of this long post? Way to use the umlaut on naïvely!
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Hi would you mind doing an energy check on all Bts members like what they up to or what are they going through right now?
ENERGY CHECK ON BTS – 09.23
seokjin:
in general, seokjin feels that life is following its natural course. things are as they should be, and he doesn't seem to question it. he feels that he has already achieved a lot so far and is proud of it, although he is slowly changing his perspective on some aspects of life. jin seems to have some new goals in mind that he never considered before and intends to explore new horizons.
the word to summarize seokjin's life at the moment is: changes. in the realm of love, things have taken a different turn than expected, and now he's contemplative about it. in the financial area, things are going well. In the professional field, seokjin seems to be reflecting on the past and is somewhat apprehensive about what lies ahead. a sense of nostalgia and impatience.
namjoon:
in my previous reading about who from BTS was in a relationship some time ago, i saw that namjoon was in a relationship where things seemed to be falling apart. this still occupies a significant part of his life and is currently affecting his energies. he cares about the person he's with, but the current dynamics of this relationship are emotionally draining for both of them. he clings to moments from the past and the solid things he's built to keep moving forward.
in his professional and financial life, he enjoys the professional path he's on right now, and namjoon is passionate about his work, which makes him happy. however, he will soon be facing new things (which may be related to enlistment), and he feels that because of this, he'll be missing out on good growth opportunities in these areas.
yoongi:
yoongi feels that at the moment, he has everything that should theoretically be enough to make him happy, but in practice, that's not the case. he has been realizing more and more that the things he once idealized as happiness may not bring as much joy as he would like. he feels that there are problems he can't resolve even now, which brings him anxiety. in his love life, he's feeling free, probably single, and not looking to get seriously involved with anyone. in his professional life, yoongi enjoys his work, but "duty calls," and this likely relates to mandatory military service, but he sees this in a good way. in his financial life, he feels fulfilled.
hoseok:
someone is very happy with life lately... hoseok is in love! the cards in the love field are great and indicate that he has met someone with whom he feels a deep connection, has personality compatibility, and makes him happy. so, he's willing to invest in this relationship. in his professional life, hoseok misses using his creative side and has been having interesting experiences relying on his rational side most of the time. hoseok may have discovered his talent for problem-solving and being tested. financially, everything is flowing well, and he's learning more about how to spend his money meaningfully.
jimin:
the current energy in jimin's life seems to revolve around making choices, and he doesn't appear to be very happy about it. i would say he's facing a decision between something he doesn't want and something that causes him anxiety. combining the cards I've drawn for all areas of his life, I would suggest this is related to his professional life. he really wants to embark on new projects, feeling that he can do more and evolve as an artist, but there seem to be complications in his path regarding this. in the realm of love, he's getting along very well with someone. it might not be a serious relationship, but there's something there. financially, like yoongi, jimin feels fulfilled.
taehyung:
taehyung's life doesn't seem to be following the script he expected, which is interfering with the personal goals he had set for himself. he feels that he must put in even more effort to make things go the way he planned, even though not everything is within his control to change, and this frustrates him. in the realm of love, he feels like he's back to square one; someone has shattered his expectations of a happy relationship, and a part of him is disillusioned with love. in his professional life, taehyung believes that his recently released album was a game-changer for him. he's very satisfied and feels that it will further enhance his relevance as an artist, and it has also brought back some of the sparkle of feeling like a star for him. financially, everything is going well, but he has ambitions for more.
jungkook:
jungkook seems to be divided about how he feels about his life. there are parts that he considers to be great, while others not so much. he still feels that there are things he can't change, irretrievable things he no longer has access to, and he tries to distract himself from this by focusing on his work, taking care of himself, and seeking new things. in his professional life, jungkook is satisfied with what he has achieved and now feels confident enough as an artist. his recent releases have given him a good response, strengthening his ability to be an artist in his own right. financially, "money comes and goes so quickly... i don't care about it that much, but it's wise for me to seek more, just in case."
in the realm of love... jungkook has just met the person he will marry in the future, even though he hasn't even thought about marriage yet. she's a foreigner. they've been getting along well, perhaps they met at an event or a party with mutual friends. jungkook already has romantic interest in her.
(you guys don't even imagine how many cards i took to confirm this cuz i couldn't believe my eyes lol anyways... have any of you been hanging out with jungkook lately? i'm asking cuz... just in case)
* based in tarot
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Wow that fandom is so stvpid. Sorry.
They were fine with RM posting song recs, when Tedros was posting every shvt on his ig, but they are being nasty towards JM because his father donated to poor children's education on Jm's behalf? Suddenly JM is a "bad person" for not donating to palestine but donating to poor children? The performative activism is crazy. They also want Jm to post donation links to his ig, mind you, that man hasn't even posted anything there or on weverse in months. Why not ask the one that's active on sm to post? Tedros? Doesn't he have more followers that they keep bragging about? It's only on stan Twitter that an idol would get hate for donating towards poor children's education. Iam pretty sure even if jm posts for palestine and donates for Palestine, these ppl will find something to hate him about that too.
Like you said, it's performative activism in all its glory, something a lot of kpop stans, including army, have been doing for months. What they are doing now with Jimin is mostly another excuse to criticise him for every single thing he does or doesn't. As you pointed out, where is the same energy for those bts members who are active online on social media? Where is the demand for them to post donations links? I guess they are always excused. Army excels at hypocrisy as always.
Jimin has been donating to low-income students for many years and now, given his current situation, his father made the donation in his name. What stans are incapable of understanding is that someone doing his military service cannot involve himself into a political issue, especially one at an international level.
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"record some guides at his apartment studio and jk only gave him some advice here and there abt how he should sing some lines" oh how you try your best to minimise jk's contribution here. Are you a jk anti anon?
"taehyung always find some way to mention jungkook and single out their relationship" I'll tell you why he does this...coz he's in love with him boo 🥰. That's what we do when are in love, we try every possible way to talk about our partner coz they are literally on our minds almost 24/7. As for jk not doing the same, I won't even ask you go through each of his lives coz that'll take time, just watch his second last live. He sang half of layover unprompted, and wooshik's mistaken part of blood sweat and tears. Jk mentioned their snowboarding trip when asked about his current fav song, jk said that tae was the first person, not just member, person, who listened to seven...
"whole “to find you” thing…there’s no way that that’s the legitimate and whole truth" so since you have no other argument against this, just say that tae lied. Simple right? How tf do you know that jk doesn't sing that song to him? Did jk personally dm you about tae's lie? I know why you don't want to accept that tae wasn't lying, bcs that would imply that they are definitely more than just friends, and will derail your Taehyung hate train.
"bc if they were actually together and jk sang that song FOR him, taehyung would not be out here divulging all that information" why won't he? What changed after he divulged that information? Did people suddenly start believing in their relationship? He knows that people like you exist, and are actually in majority so even if he declares his love for jk publically, no one's gonna bat an eye coz acc to most people, they are just bros/ or acc to rotten minds, he's just seeking attention.
"the story he posted of him and jk on instagram before enlisting. that was completely on purpose for attention bc why would u not post something for jimin" it was definitely on purpose. He wanted to publically say goodbye to his bf before he went away. Don't we do the same? Don't we differentiate b/w our partners and friends? That's all that he did. He was literally enlisting that day. He was getting enough attention already. Also, what would he have done of that attention when he was going to the military that very day? As for not posting about jimin, maybe he didn't have a shirtless FaceTime with jimin 🤷♀️
"just at least admit that taehyung mentions a lot of stuff abt jungkook on purpose bc he knows ppl like to hear it " I'll readily admit the first part of this statement but not the second. Yes he does mention jungkook a lot, but not because people like to hear it. No one except for taekookers want to hear him talk about his jungkookie. Army, jikookers, solos, i.e. the majority, either don't care about it or call him vile names(like you are) as soon as he so much as takes jk's name.
He's been doing all that and no one except for taekookers finds anything sus about it, ever. So your "if they were actually together i dont think he would want to be drawing attention to their relationship the way he does" makes no sense. Jungkook literally sat smack dab on tae's lap infront of thousands and no one thought anything about it, but tae saying that he recorded some guides at jk' house would draw attention to their relationship.
Do you think jk would allow tae to lie and use his name for attention? Do you he's a pushover? Why does jk hang out with tae and even tae's friends so much if tae is such a lying manipulative attention seeker? Watch yoongi's concert footage, would jk be sticking close to tae all evening if tae was really the evil tae of your imagination?
Stop trying to make up vile narratives about their relationship. Jungkook would judge you. Hard. So would jimin.
Ps, there are many compilations of jungkook going taehyungie hyung all year round, was he trying to make shippers happy and seek attention as well?
Hi anon!
Jup 😊!
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It's time for the Weekly Bangtan Report!
Happy Birthday Hobi! Neuron Crew has posted a happy birthday tribute on their social media channels. Here is the video on YouTube:
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Neuron Crew are a group of Hobi's dance colleagues and friends from pre-debut. He's known them since middle school. This video was shot at Daedong Plaza in Gwuangju, Hobi's hometown city.
I was wondering last time if we'd see him in between training groups and here he is! The birthday boy himself was out and about. He saw his birthday banners and posters! I suspect this is possibly near his apartment building.
And COMING MARCH!!! HOPE ON THE STREET!!!
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Personally, I hope its a series and not just one full length documentary type thing.
Ok, now news for the thirsty folks (thirsty folks=all of us) I was going to start this weekly recap with this, but...
I decided to spare everyone. I'm sure y'all are tired of seeing naked Jungkook (of course that was a joke).
EDIT: CK pulled a bonehead and did not add this particular hoodie to their website before dropping the pics. It supposedly is there now.
As I predicted months and months ago, these brand ambassador deals are the gifts that keep on giving (thank you jesus and tight pants).
Jungkook's deal with Calvin Klein ... he said he wears the "tight kind" ... dare I even go here? will we...? did he...? We Wait™️
There is a video of behind the scenes of his music show recordings he did from Seven's release to Golden's promotions is available on BangtanTV.
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Yoongi's Valentino campaign is beginning to appear in Japan.
We still know nothing about what he's up to but we keep getting episodes of Suchwita. Perhaps we'll get one with his good friend, producer El Capitxn. We Wait™️
Taehyung has a photo spread in the current issue of WKorea. Flowers. Lots of flowers:
And he posted on Valentine's day but not really a love note (lol, he's a goofball) but the boy is gaining some weight. He's up to 160 lbs...
I present to you my interim report. Attained 72.5 kg I will come again. Salute Trans cr; Aditi @ bts-trans © TAKE OUT WITH FULL CREDITS
Namjoon.... there is that sus image of him playing the saxophone in a red military band uniform (not gonna post the pic). Is it an edit? Ok, so let's think about this.
When have we ever heard Namjoon say he knows how to play the saxophone? That would be approximately zero times he's ever said that. You'd think we would have had some Taehyung/RM interactions or conversations over the years involving saxophones. Nothing.
Do you know how hard it is to learn to play a wind instrument?
And there is only that one single suspicious image. Usually there are multiple weird sneaky angles, blurry shots, etc. I'm just saying I remain skeptical until I hear more from a different source, or from Joon himself. I've seen several pics supposedly of Jimin and Jungkook, one of them sitting in a cafeteria that looked hella real and then the original pic is shown and it's just... wow... edits can be very deceiving.
Joon posted a Lunar New Year message to us on Weverse:
Hello ARMYs, I hope you're doing well. I've come to my assigned military base and am adapting and doing well. I've had some tteokguk* too. Since it's Seollal, I've also been resting a bit, and I'm living well. I will need to spend one more Seollal here before I can see you but, I'm spending my time well. I really believe that this time will lead to different kinds of learning and experiences. Whenever, wherever you are, please stay healthy, and I hope that your life has a lot more good than bad. Hoping that the connection we share continues, I wish you a happy new year ! (*Rice cake soup traditionally eaten during Seollal, or Lunar New Year.) Trans cr; Aditi @ bts-trans © TAKE OUT WITH FULL CREDITS
And his @ rpwprpwprpwp Instagram account posted some pics this past week. Since comments are open on that account, Armys are trying to outdo each other with the corniest pickup lines:
IS THERE AN AIRPORT NEARBY, OR WAS THAT JUST MY HEART TAKING OFF? If you were a triangle you'd be acute one 💋 If I'm the pencil, you're the highlighter. Because I'm gonna draw our future and you're gonna make it brighter.
Jimin also posted a short but super sweet Lunar New Year message on Weverse and mentioned Jungkook:
It's Lunar New Year ARMYs! I hope you have a happy Lunar New Year and I hope this year for you is a healthy year filled with happiness Jungkook and I are doing well so please don't worry about us too much. I'll check in with you again! Hope you have lots of good food and eat a lot today Trans cr; Annie @ bts-trans © TAKE OUT WITH FULL CREDITS
I was so happy to see a message from him and so glad he said they are both doing well. But I'm still going to worry...
Nothing new from Jin, we've already had his February message. 116 days left. But here he is and I am looking forward to having his grown ass, mature, military experienced man back with us in a few months:
Other Bangtan related news this week: Enhypen released a cover of I Need U. Some people are speaking negatively about it. What the ever loving fuck is wrong with you people?
That song was important for BTS, it was their first TV music show win and it was IMPORTANT and a big WIN for them that broke the door open. They were about to give up!
Be flattered that BTS is of a calibre that other well-known artists want to cover their songs! That being said, if you don't like the way they covered the song, fine, just move on, there's no need to be mean-spirited about it.
Last weekend, a Japanese TV show seemed to tease/spoil a hint that possibly high profile celebs stayed at a resort in a town outside Sapporo recently... the hint was "Dynamite." This was the resort:
Uh... nice... delulu brain activated...
#bangtan weekly report#update on the fortress: they are working on the interior#i'm sure there's a hundred other bts related things i forgot to mention#even when they are absent they are everywhere#to the person who asked me last week about Jungkook please check your DMs
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