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Love that Jimin is still collecting new fans and that it’s almost purely from just the music and his voice (initially since he’s been enlisted) And I’m glad because they’re getting exposed to the artist side of him first.

And I’m actually so excited for y’all to actually meet and see him in real time once he gets out cause the personality really will just tie everything together.

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Jin's fans delusion is so ridiculous it's kinda cute. Not even being biased right now but if for some reason you had to take one member out of the group and you were trying to do that while creating the least amount of damage to the group you would remove Jin cause he has always been the least important member. He has the least amount of lines and the lines he does have can be easily given to the ml. He's maybe third best vocalist in the group and anything he does the others could do instead, like if you want someone to sing high you have Jimin and if you want someone to sing low you have V. He's the worst dancer so he's usually hidden in the back in their performances. Like the rest of vl he doesn't contribute much to making the music. He literally was added to the group only for visuals but for the first few years BTS didn't really rely on visuals much (they're were actually considered an 'ugly' group) and by the time visuals became more important (though even then visuals have never been as important for BTS as they are for some other groups) the ml had grown into their looks and everybody started preferring them over Jin cause the only reason Jin was the one to debut as the visual is because ml were all teenagers who didn't look their best yet (and even then they were still more heavily relying on Jimin's body for getting people's attention which is kinda fucked up in retrospect). So really there's very little that Jin contributes to the group. And I'm sincerely not being biased because I have no particular beef with Jin the same way I have no beef with Namjoon. My most disliked members are actually Jungkook and Yoongi but even though I dislike them more then Jin I would be lying if I said they're less important to the group than him.

Now if we move away from talking about the members as musicians and performers and instead talk about them as coworkers and friends then I guess he becomes more important. But in that sense every member is important and is hard to compare because how would we as people who don't know them personally know which members (aside from Namjoon as he is their leader and spokesperson) is more important or had a bigger impact on the other members.

I actually never understood why out of all the members someone would pick Jin as their favorite. I may not personally care for the appeal the other members have but I least I know what that appeal is. Like I know the reason people like V, I don't think it's a good reason but I do know the reason. But with Jin I genuinely don't know what his appeal is supposed to be. I'm not even trying to be shady, I'm genuinely confused.

To be fair and to bounce of what you said, all the members are gonna appeal to somebody.

I mean I feel the same exact way about all the BP girls where I still don’t understand to this day how they amassed the following they have, cause they REALLY slipped through the cracks. But considering that the vast majority of them are there because they’re pretty socialites. Ig I kind of get it.

And for Jin, some people really like his personality, like his voice and his music is still some of the better sounding out of what BTS have put out individually to me so…to each their own 🤷🏾‍♀️

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armys really are annoying. can't they just accept that in a group of 7 people not everyone is gonna be special? there's always a weak link and jin is that. and you right none of them are radicalized not even if they wanted to be cause as idols they're not in a position to be radical about anything. like i would love for that to be a thing but i'm not gonna sit here and pretend just because it's someone i'm a fan of. like for example it annoys me when fans try to say any member has shown significant support towards the queer community because as someone who's queer i can tell you they haven't. and i'm not blaming them for that cause like i said they're not really in a position to do that as idols and most of them are probably cool with queer people but to say they've done anything more than show small and vague support would be a lie

True.

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"i really do believe that a big reason as to why jimin gave up consistently needing to be perceived as masculine was because of seokjin and how comfortable he was being associated with feminine things"

armys stop crediting other members for things jimin achieved on his own challenge failed once again 🙄 also not them saying this about jin who has always been one of the most cishet members. and jin's few associations with feminine things are all in a superficial, lighthearted, jokey kinda of way like "haha call me a princess" while jimin's struggle with hyper-masculinity was more serious and deeper than that and jin as a pretty typical korean man who's perfectly comfortable with being traditionally masculine wouldn't have even understood jimin's struggle let alone been able to help him with it. and jimin saying jin helped him with being happy is him saying jin helped him with being more relaxed and lighthearted cause that's jin's whole thing, it has nothing to do with self-acceptance or gender issues.

No but there’s something so icky to me about armys always feeling the need for the other members to lay claim over what makes Jimin him. Whether it’s them thinking that Hobi taught him everything he knows about dance, Joon holding both his hands through making the majority of his music, JK about singing and now Jin with Jimin’s own self acceptance.

It’s like armys know that those are the very attributes that have made Jimin stand out over the years so they have to make it seem like the reason it’s worked so well for him is because the other members (who they feel are better or want to appear more important) were able to get him to that point. Like he can never be his own person when it comes to them.

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Honestly the issue is that Bighit keeps linking the guys with fictional characters. On one hand I don't give a damn if the anime adaptation has haru or not. Most adaptations reimagine a bunch of stuff and I found the original webtoon to be pretty mediocre so I wouldn't fault them for changing up a bunch of stuff. On the other hand, Bighit is the one that kept using the guys as promotion for the webtoon and explicitly linking each of them with an associated character. Of course we're going to be annoyed if that character is then erased.

This blurring of the lines that Bighit constantly does - with hyyh, with this webtoon, with in the seom - is actually something I find really questionable and kind of unhealthy. Well I find the whole kpop system to be questionable in many ways so I suppose this is just another piece of that.

“Bighit is the one that kept using the guys as promotion for the webtoon and explicitly linking each of them with an associated character. Of course we're going to be annoyed if that character is then erased.”

Very valid point actually. Cause some of the fans were even using their real names in place of the character’s or just using them interchangeably.

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huh? what are they even talking about? in what way did he radicalized bts? he's honestly a subpar singer and dancer who's just trying to keep up with the rest of the group so he added nothing to their performances. and it's not like he's jm who helped with the group being more than just hip-hop and also being less of a manly man type of group. jm was also the one who helped the members with not being emotionally stunted men who don't know how to show love and appreciation towards their friends. like jm had to introduce these man to the concept of giving gifts to your friends on their birthdays 💀 like it was bad for him. but jin is just your normal run of the mill standard type of guy he's really nothing unusual or special. also do these people know what the word radical means cause their examples in the quotes are pretty normal chill and mild which is very much not what radical is supposed to mean

Had to log back for a second in cause I still don’t know what OP was referring to, but everything I’m seeing in the quotes are things that other members like Joon and especially Jimin, have already done. He absolutely did not start the movement of “radicalizing” the other members? 😭 And I don’t think any of them are radicalized tbh. They all just have (what should be) very normal ways of thinking when it comes to societal topics. So once again, armys are just chatting to give that man something to do.

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It’s so fascinating to me that each time someone internationally or unintentionally tries to diminish, undermine or dull Jimin, he just comes out even larger than life and bold. It’s almost karmic. For instance, Haru not being there in that new anime film or whatever, all everyone’s talking about is Haru and Jimin and his virality when the webtoon launched. Now what did anyone gain from okaying this? More solo Stan’s for him? A longer set of receipt for HYBE’s shadiness towards their own artist?

for context, some famous production house created an original inspired by their 7 fates webtoon and turned Jimin’s extremely popular character into a little girl (Hobi’s too) and sorta may have created a romance around what looks like JK’s and Tae’s character by actually shifting the storyline. Could care less about the BL, but I loved JM’s character in the old storyline.

Completely forgot that was even something that they did. I didn’t really read it when it came out.

For me though, It’d be different if it was a direct adaption for like an anime and they intentionally left his character out while leaving everything else in. But since the production house made a new IP just inspired by 7fates like you said, I can’t really be mad that they didn’t add Jimin’s character faithfully to how he was in the OG.

They couldn’t just lift the character straight from 7fates for copyright reasons. I’m sure they changed things to avoid that. (The BL storyline supposedly crafted around TK’s characters is funny though lol)

But trying to undermine Jimin will never work because he is who he is. And It’s beyond him already being popular because you can be popular with absolutely no impact. He’s always had both.

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hi i am really interested to know your opinion on this.

What member/members(if there is) do you think actually radicalized the group when it comes to what topic/idea ?

https://x.com/songofseokjin/status/1907785357979943171

I would need more context or a subject to give my view. I haven’t been on twitter in a couple of days so I don’t know what’s been happening to say.

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Can’t wait to experience that pre album period leading up to release again for pjm3. Especially with knowing that Jimin will be here to experience everything with us at a relaxed paced now that he won’t be on a time crunch.

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The frustrating thing about this removal of streams is that our filtering rate did decreased in March but the amount of streams removed actually increased. So does the removal even have anything to do with the filtering rate at all? And I also have been keeping tracks of the numbers and I noticed the while in November and December of last year the numbers were inconsistent, for all three months of 2025 the percentage removed from the total streams gained in the month was around 33% (specifically 33.5% in January, 32.3% in February and 33.7% in March). So are 33% percent of the monthly streams going to be deleted every month regardless of our filtering rate? And for how long are they going to keep doing this? Because at this rate in a few months Who won't have any unfiltered streams left.

As we know there is a difference in numbers between the unfiltered and filtered streams. Some streams aren't considered valid enough to be on Spotify's official charts and only show up on the app, let's call those streams 'filtered-out streams'. Before this most recent removal the total of Who's filtered-out streams was 146m but after the removal it's 118m. In March Who only gained 10m filtered-out streams but 42m were removed. So they're removing a significantly higher amount of filtered-out streams than what's being gained monthly. This means that in probably less then six months Who will have no filtered-out streams left and the number of unfiltered streams will the same as the number of filtered streams. After that what will happen? Will Spotify finally be satisfied and stop removing so many streams or are they going to start taking from the filtered streams instead? But they can't do that because the whole point of the filtered streams is that the 'invalid' streams have already been removed. The filtered streams are supposed to be the completely valid ones. These are the streams that Spotify and Billboard uses for their official charts so what would it mean if these streams aren't reliable anymore? Also if Spotify was messing with the filtered streams we would've seen that in the Spotify charts but Who's filtered streams have been normal all throughout the five months these removals have been happening.

Honestly, I don't see the point in all of this. If Spotify doesn't considered these streams as valid and thinks they need to be removed then why are they counting them in the first place? Why do they let these supposedly invalid streams show up in their app for a whole month? Why not remove then automatically every day? It's not like they can't do that because that's already what they do in their daily chart. The Spotify Daily Global Chart shows streams that have been filtered so why don't they just take that same number and put it on the app instead of unfiltered streams they're just going to remove later? Why let a song have these streams for a whole month only to remove them all at once? Don't they realize how that makes things look? If Who had these streams not be counted in the first place, if the daily unfiltered streams decreased to the same amount as the filtered ones so that they would be no difference to remove every month then we wouldn't have to deal with all the nonsense that happens every time they delete a ton of streams.

Really wish there was a concrete explanation, but unfortunately I doubt we’ll ever get one.

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When it comes to Jimin and potential future collabs I really hope it’s somebody who has the same innate ear for music and meticulous artistry that he has. I don’t really want someone to just lend their voice. Like I want to see BTS vids of him and that person going back and forth about each and every detail to make the best track possible and not just something that’s easy to listen to.

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Unsurprisingly, R&B Jimin has won the poll but recently I’ve been curious about something else.

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Did you see the whole kiof mess ?!

These idols are just one disappointment after another

Yes and at this point I'm going to go full on conspiracy theorist and say it's not going to affect them because being racist in some form is a rite of passage for korean artists. Because according to their fans they knew it was offensive but did it anyway.

And still talking about them, I remember last year when everybody dragged lsrf for smart but said nothing when kiof released sticky, a song with the choreography ACTUALLY plagiarising tyla.

And this whole thing has been ridiculous because why did I just see someone who's apparently a namjoon solo claiming jimin called jk nigga on camera. Like namjoon is the only member of bts where there's real evidence of him saying it and he's literally known for cosplaying black people in the past. And as much as I don't like to hold on to that because he's one of the only idols who's clearly changed and learnt from their mistakes, how are you as a namjoon stan (the member who's the reason some tagged bts as racist and misogynistic) try to tack on jimin's name because according to y'all he Said nigga in Korean? Like what does that even mean? If he said it he said it if he didn't he didn't what do you mean the "korean equivalent" just because they want all of bts to go down together?

And I love how everybody's pretending to care about all this? The only people who would actually care about non hybe groups fucking up are hybe stans. A week from now everybody's going to forget this happened.

Personally, I've had a lot of seconds thoughts about kpop the past week. I'm usually not the type of black person to call kpop idols as a whole racist because of the actions of some, and I think the only way you could completely escape situations like these would be avoiding non- black artists in general because yes k idols are not the only non black acts who do or have a history of this, which means it's impossible to not encounter this but at the same time I genuinely feel weirded out by all of this.

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The Korean equivalent accusation for Jimin never made sense to me, cause like all these other idols who have and are being called out for saying ngga, he would have just outright said the word. Why would he be the odd one out in saying it that way when everybody else actually said ngga? They’re all copying what they’re hearing Black people say in songs. Black people are not saying the equivalent of ngga in Korean on their tracks?

Just like I don’t understand why he’d just randomly call JK that specific phrase out of nowhere if it does in fact truly mean that. But yes if he said it, he said it. If he didn’t, he didn’t.

Did you see the whole kiof mess ?!

These idols are just one disappointment after another

Yes and at this point I'm going to go full on conspiracy theorist and say it's not going to affect them because being racist in some form is a rite of passage for korean artists. Because according to their fans they knew it was offensive but did it anyway.

And still talking about them, I remember last year when everybody dragged lsrf for smart but said nothing when kiof released sticky, a song with the choreography ACTUALLY plagiarising tyla.

And this whole thing has been ridiculous because why did I just see someone who's apparently a namjoon solo claiming jimin called jk nigga on camera. Like namjoon is the only member of bts where there's real evidence of him saying it and he's literally known for cosplaying black people in the past. And as much as I don't like to hold on to that because he's one of the only idols who's clearly changed and learnt from their mistakes, how are you as a namjoon stan (the member who's the reason some tagged bts as racist and misogynistic) try to tack on jimin's name because according to y'all he Said nigga in Korean? Like what does that even mean? If he said it he said it if he didn't he didn't what do you mean the "korean equivalent" just because they want all of bts to go down together?

And I love how everybody's pretending to care about all this? The only people who would actually care about non hybe groups fucking up are hybe stans. A week from now everybody's going to forget this happened.

Personally, I've had a lot of seconds thoughts about kpop the past week. I'm usually not the type of black person to call kpop idols as a whole racist because of the actions of some, and I think the only way you could completely escape situations like these would be avoiding non- black artists in general because yes k idols are not the only non black acts who do or have a history of this, which means it's impossible to not encounter this but at the same time I genuinely feel weirded out by all of this.

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is there another artist that has had as much deleted streams as jm? does anyone know? I just find it hard to believe this is a paid spotify thing and that jimin is the only artist that doesn't have a deal with Spotify and gets punished. (this severely I mean)

Not sure. I know the other members get their streams deleted the same way but I haven’t seen anything above 12M for them. And I highly doubt the people streaming for Jimin are doing anything different from what the people streaming for the other members are doing. Not to mention they all more or less share the same fandom. We’re all using the same method.

So although the paid accounts might be one of the issues, I don’t think that’s all there is to his streams constantly getting deleted in such a high amount.

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wait more streams got deleted recently?

Yea

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what does spotify actually want? deleting 40 to 50m streams every month without any explanation whatsoever for who while it literally charts in more than 40 countries every day! this is so disappointing but again not surprising 😕 guess we will have to find a solution till his next single

The way WHO would’ve been close to 2B by now if it weren’t for their flimsy ass “regulations” And so nasty to do it just as it hit 1.6B streams…

Idk what the solution would be for us. I’d assume to stream from more premium accounts than free if what was said about them flagging free accounts as “bots.” to try and strong arm artists to pay them is what they’re actually doing. And I believe it could be because I remember there was a member of an indie band that brought this same issue up not too long ago and said that’s what was happening to their streams.

But it’s just so tiring and annoying to see people get punished for not playing the industry’s game.