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giftedpoison · 9 months
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Trying to have a general conversation about the homeless population with someone who works in a mental health one step program that's sees 20% of people not finishing the program and ending up in the homeless encampment down the road.
I'm just so appalled honestly. By how they talked about it. Saying those 20% choose it. And called the program a crutch. And saying they had 3 months to get their shit together after being inpatient for mental illness where everything was handed to them.
And I'm over here fucking screaming internally. Because there's so much wrong with it and I don't even know where to start.
Like first off the program helping with job search/housing. I doubt it. Because 3 months after being inpatient for God knows how long, is not enough time to find a job. It took me 2 months to find a job after leaving my job where I was deadass in charge of a whole department. AND THE JOB I GOT? A seasonal position for the holidays.
Not to mention even if they miraculously got a job that pays well guaranteed they would not find housing. I made 17$ an hour and no one would lease me a one bedroom apartment. I once was rejected from an apartment when I made 15$ an hour. Because I didn't make $18. The rent was $650 a month.
And she also said the program shuts people out of the program after 3 tries (which is 9 months total but obviously that would be sporadic) and they have to find somewhere else.
Which like they have a limited radius of where they can feasible travel so what the fuck there.
And when I said 3 months seemed short. She was like well they were in patient first before the 3 months so obviously it's short.
NOT obvious bestie babe. That's worse actually. But I was at work when I was texting this person and I also didn't feel qualified to speak on it knowing I knew little about the program and also wasn't that educated on homelessness enough to be considered credible.
She also said she thinks of that memoir Glass Castle that we had to read junior year of high school. And how the authors parents chose to be homeless so clearly people just choose it for no reason. (Which I don't remember much about it but Im pretty sure at least one of the parents were struggling with some sort of addiction)
And I made sure to be clear that is 100% a minority situation and that there's almost always differing factors involved. And she was like yeah it's just so insane and the program can't figure out why it's happening and that's what they are looking into.
meanwhile I'm screaming because I'm not even college educated and I can see the glaring issue like a bright ass LED light. But whatever.
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mrvenuspluto · 4 months
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Chiron
And its unhealed wombs
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This may be one of the most sensitive topics that touches on a emotionally scared, trauma based and premature wombs. This action dealing with astrology lays in each and everyone of our natal charts. Here you will get my insight, thoughts, and perspectives dealing with this comet. This comet was discovered on November 1, 1977 and said to be orbiting between saturn and uranus In 2015, astronomers said that chiron might have rings around it. On 2023, November 29, the science Institute said chiron doesn't have rings. It seem to be more like "evolving material " orbiting chiron. Im going give you my conclusion on those observations if you stick with me in a few! Well this comet was discovered orbiting between 2 of the most unique and and powerful planets in our solar system which are saturn and uranus.
We know chiron deals with " healing of the womb" our deepest emotional and spiritual wombs. Like a unreached place in our soul essence and mental breakdown. Saturn deals with discipline, structure, resilience, pain, suffering, overcoming obstacles and misfortunes and also the physical body. As in for the planet Uranus! Deals with and represents extremes, breakthroughs, your intuition, futuristic thinking, visionary, chaotic situations, innovation, rebellious, and being a raw genius. It's so much more for both, They both are very powerful in their own unique way.
I would think since this comet was discovered along side or in the energies of both of these planets it would carry alot of the same attributes good or bad. Like saturns hardships, struggles, lessons to be learned and overcome. Uranus unique and different ways of doing and handling situations, outburst and sudden changes without warning. Also the good and helpful benefits like uranus can make a person gain superior knowledge and be creative, forsee events happening and under their unusual gifts. With that saturn would give straight strength, resilience and determination to overcome any obstacle, situation, pain, and give you help with owning your new you.
Another thing, it was discovered on the date of November 1, 1977 ( 11 + 1 +1 + 9 + 7 + 7 = 36 or ( 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 9 + 7 + 7 = 27 ) they both equal the same equation. With that being said, they both equal 9, now 9 is a very powerful number its actually the last cardinal number in numerology. It represents you lived life, learned, endings, completions, spiritual growth, wisdom, humanitarian attributes. It also connects to alot other things in life. You can do anything with this number and dealing with math, life, spirituality numbers are everything, and have to come back to the number 9. Nothing is a coincidence in this realm we our in the same game of life, here to experience, learn, teach and evolve.
Chiron shows are deepest insecurities, wombs, weakness, problems with are mentality, physical abilities, and also are yearn for healing and helping others. Chiron is not to be cured or defeated! Its something thats deep in use that we cant remove just learn how to work with it, heal it, pamper it, attain to it, nuture it, and show others how to learn from what we been through while still in the process of healing its pain. Its like being bullied at youth, always being picked on until finally you had enough and spoke up and confronted the bully or fought the bully, win or lose! you still stood up for yourself and gained respect in the process. Even tho you dont get bullied anymore, still those images, and scenarios play back in your head of how you use to be or things you delt with effected you physically and emotionally.
People like this become very mentally tough, powerful. We all deal with some type of insecurity i are lifes. Most people hide theirs good in front of the public or family. But its only so long you can hide lifes problems. Alot people get diagnosed with a mental condition due from chiron enabling them to participate or engage in life like a normal civilian! Hmmm what is a normal civilian, no one is normal, we all have are unique and individual personalities and wombs. Like i stated earlier stick with me and i was going tell you my insight about this comet being classified as having no rings only "evolving materials". Well look at that representing chiron being unstable, not able to have real rings around its surface. Its always dealing with change, anxiety, popups, realization situations etc. The evolving materials represents you growing, learning, the process of growth, adding new layers to yourself as time go on.
These layers may not stick on you, as fast, but over time they will gain importance in your growth. People will see you adapt to your unfamiliar situations, not giving up as you verbally, physically, emotionally and spiritually express and help others on your path. Its important and vital to learn your chiron placement, and what story its telling you will become more empowered, grateful and see life for what it is. Chiron will be a reminder why you are here, what you need to do, what you need to handle, who you really are, why you havent stepped into your authentic self. This is a long journey a journey to experience all the triumphs, confusing situations, withdraws. Its the journey not the destination! No rush here! You are in a life changing transformation. These energies you been holding in, and blocking. Of course it will take time, patience and perseverance to see yourself rise like the Phoenix from the ashes!
Thats why this little comet is like a gem or a diamond in your natal chart! You can pay attention only to the planets, placements, aspects and other asteroids that you favor. But like they say money, power dont create bliss or truth happiness. Only when you go within, and understand your deep rooted pains and insecurities you will come out light as a kite and ascend to your highest potential, knowing that its nothing under your emotions or personality holding you back from being your true authentic self at your core, and soul level.
My opinion of the most challenging house placements for Chiron. I pay attention to the house more than the sign Chiron is in, The house placement has more of a significant role towards the individual. The house represents the area of life where Chiron will trigger. Now theses are the placements i aligned in order from the least challenging to the most challenging.
12. / 9th House
Chiron here deals with your spiritual and religous beliefs. Here you need to learn how to transform your mind into more of an expansive thinking. Transformation of emotional wounds into spiritual enlightenment. You may had come from a household that does things traditional or had a one way view on life and religous beliefs. Or you could of been a person in last life who never got into anything religous or spiritual, now you are seeking truth.
To heal / need to need to search for fulfillment is what you believe in, traveling, physically and mentally. Expanding your horizons, finding your own truth and not out dated traditional ways. Find your own truth, while on this journey you will heal and help others who also are lost in beliefs, traditional ways, and stuck in being stationery in their thoughts as well expansion.
11. / 10th House
The individual here has a case with not feeling connected or belonging in the career setting. Also has a fear of failure, not achieving the high status as others or what others expect of you. Career life could feel foreign and not reachable. You will want not step up to your role in the career life or just the status that awaits you. Fear of failure will be your downfall and shame of not being recognized like you want to be viewed.
To heal/ something lays good within you, leadership skills, authority and good public image. Once you embrace your difficulties with these powerful positions you will become a recognized face for the public and show others how to become self empowered. You could be a strong influential speaker, will others striving to achieve the impossible like you.
10. / 12th House
This is where you face deep subconscious wounds and tension. Past life pain from old trauma that effected your spiritual connection to the devine. Where its hard to connect to this 3D realm and relate practically. You may have a hard time playing a role in life, society or made to fit a image that is not you. Your boundaries be nonexistent so your energies may be everywhere, which causes you to retreat for solitude and isolation.
To heal/ choosing very wisely who you let into your life, but same time let other in to help your healing power open up and you can heal so many people with your profound energy. You are blessed with a unique healing aura, touch that can help others that your powerful senses detect. You need to balance the 2 realms, spiritual and material to become more intuned and work towards your healing.
9. / 6th House
The house of service is where you deal with your open wounds and pain. You can feel like you are always needed at someones service and helping a person and animal etc. You may even be extra alert on your own health and day to day routine people may also need your help, assistance and energy. You may be preoccupied with your own self care, you may have injury to your own body you deal with. Routines, service and refinement might feel like a curse to you.
To heal/ you need to learn a profect a skill, and work on day to day routines to refine them. Also like chiron in 12th, this placement has a unique healing ability as well. Although this area comes from more of a practical stand point as in seeing things play out physically and hands on treat. As in 12th house is more of a spiritual and reiki healing. When you become of service to others as well as yourself with balance you will be on path for healing.
8. / 11th House
Anxiety and discomfort from the social sphere. You feel like you and your unique personality doesn't fit in with the social norm. You dont understand why you dont to fit in with friends, organizations, and large groups at same time you dont want to. You often feel like you just taking up space at a party or gathering! You feel like the elephant in the room. You forbid to conform, so you rather be the outcast or just not go to any gatherings.
To heal/ when being your unique self in public, around large groups then you will see your self heal, breaking free from the limitations and restrictions of expression, thinking outside the norm, this will encourage others to free their unique selves and break the chains of the restricted society. Originality will liberate your soul as well as others.
7. / 5th House
Everything stems from the pain and emotional hurt from not being able to fully express your creative side like you want. You never had a chance to enjoy fun, understand what enjoyment is. You look and view having fun and free expression as a risky situation. Your love life, dating and flirtatious side my be in and hold tied down from not knowing how to express it due to no spontaneity and rizz in your life.
To heal/ curing that inner child will be the start of healing that childhood wound. Being the kid you wasnt again, or cherishing things you once looked at as serious and no purposeful. Your creativity will be one of a kind, ideas and concepts will open doors for you and others to be more invited in their fun side. You should open your heart and curious side to love.
6. / 7th House
Challenges arise in your relationship and business aspects of life. Fear, insecurities and dealings are your deep wounds and touchy areas. When you are close to someone you cant fully be yourself and show your real personality due to fear of being vulnerable. Tension is built from not fully able to express and connect with individuals on a deep level. Old wounds from past relationships create barriers so that others cant see what you really feel.
To heal/ starts with understanding that you are coming from a place of hurt and not trusting or relating with a individual right away or never. Yoy will need to cherish relationships with a partner, love, friendship, business etc. You will have to be vulnerable at some point to get your feet wet to go through lifes experience to heal the outdated wound. Relatability, compromise and vulnerable is the key to healing.
5. / 8th House
Unseen and undelt trauma comes in and out this individuals life, bringing nothing but uncertainty, losses, death and deep transformation. You dive deep to understand every encounter in your life and search for power and control over your destiny. Everything here deals with emotional, and transformation pain. Here you deal with vulnerability as well, insecurities and trust.
To heal/ you have a healing force within you. You can understand sex, healing, intimacy, finances and deep matters. You use sex and deep connections with others to gain power back and transformation to heal your wounds. Understanding energy and how people operate on a soulful level. You know work on your shadow side to gain the knowledge to heal and to use these skills to teach, heal, and guide others to the light.
4. / 4th House
Security, shelter and protection is what these individuals yearn for. Coming from a childhood of disappointment, emotional neglect, and motherly connection,( family). Pain hits your soul just as much as your heart. Maybe chaos in the household, always moving or just a unfit house or living conditions. Here you deal with root problems that has been generational, so you can see where it all began from.
To heal/ It will start from accepting that it will take you loving yourself 1st, being your own savior, healing your own wounds, being that mother, or father that bandages your own scar up and kiss it and make it better. Your heart needs healing and you the only one who can heal it from the core everyone else can only heal the outer side. Build your own home how you want it, pamper yourself, love yourself and never neglect yourself.
3. / 3rd House
Communication, early childhood could be where your wounds are open for the world to see and touch. You feel and felt like you never was heard or tooken serious. You dont understand your power and true courage thats within you. Could of delt with bullying, teachers picking on you and siblings. Neighborhood could be a part of your upbringing that shaped and molded you. Never really spoken as a youth, observed more and witnessed alot. Maybe was peer pressured alot.
To heal / Expression, Expression, Expression, you will need to open you mind and mouth to be heard, something you were able to do. You will have to courageous and power in your ability. You will make a great motivational speaker, counselor, influential speaker as well. You have a very power gift. You will teach others how to value your own thoughts and encourage them to speak whats on their minds. Then only the healing process will begin.
2. / 2nd House
Pain and hurt comes from your value(s), you may have been without, not enough money, clothing or even the things a kid wanted. So you become extra stubborn and protective of your money and possessions. Upbringing without the full resources you wanted or needed made you dis value yourself and put shame to yourself. You seen friends, family and others getting things they wanted and needed while you watched from afar. Lack of safety and security was also a issue. Lack in assertiving ones own values and needs.
To heal / Need to acknowledge what you really value and care about. Value plays a big role in your healing process. Here you learn you only get valued or respected as much as you show it to your self. Everything you wanted in life and all the protection and security you yearned for as a youth, you will have to display that for yourself. You could be good with money, and understanding the value of something, your worth lays in your own values.
1. / 1st House
Now this placement is a mutha! It hits home and it deals with your whole core being, its like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and maybe 6 wrapped up in a painful burrito! You deal with anxiety, body dysmorpia, shyness, assertiveness, physically trauma, mental pain, acceptance, being good enough etc. Life is a maze and obstacle trying to understand where you fit in. Since 1st house is your personal issues, physically body you deal with everything head on.
To heal / putting yourself 1st! Being yourself, the best version of you. Its not going be a easy path, but it will be a very influential journey! Accepting that you were once a scared, shy, soul and helping your inner core up and guiding it towards the correct lane will be a big step. These people become very powerful, popular and courageous. Once you do what you want to do when you want to then doors will start to open, people will follow.
Here are a few hard aspects as well that makes chiron a very difficult situation to deal with in your life.
Chiron + venus
Square
Opposition
These people are just givers, and love to please these their partners, but at the end they become high and dry from being so overly concerned for their partner and not their own hearts and well-being. Need to learn how relationships work in give and take and balance.
Chiron + mars
Square
Opposition
You deal with acceptance, you have built up anger issues due to no releasing it, instead of speaking, showing your actions or what you feel your hold it in... not good. Be who you are and express it. Mars is a planet of action not repressing.
Chiron + moon
Square
Opposition
Repressing your emotions and holding in what you really feel can be detrimental to your health and brain. You tend to tell people you fine even when they ask and can see you are in pain. Let others know you are hurt, depressed or just need to vent.
Chiron + sun
Square
Opposition
You are the light that spose to shine and get recognized by the masses or your peers. You were that a kid who never fully expressed or showed their creativity to the world. Holding back due to shyness, or being the headline and the star that everyone looked at. You rather shy away. Not this time step out and shine.
Chiron + mercury
Square
Opposition
This is where a individual may be open up to someone or a group of people and express sooo much that they feel bad or ashamed that they were so open or just communicative. Its nothing to be ashamed about, you need to express whats on your mind and conscious. You could be a good speaker or writer.
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the-wayward-arc · 5 years
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How Jaune asked Pyrrha out (Dark Angels AU)
*everyone is sitting outside relaxing after a rough mission*
Nora: Then I grabbed its tusks and threw it a death stalker! Impaling it on the stinger!
Ren: it was a Beowolf and it was dazed for a few minutes.
Nora: Fearless leader isnt it true? *notices Jaune isnt there* huh, where is Jaune?
Ruby: he said he had to go to your guys room to grab something, said he had a surprise.
*Everyone sees Jaune coming with a Guitar in hand*
Weiss: *sighs* I thought we were past this! I'm gonna freeze that guitar to his hands!
Yang: Oh this gonna be good, *starts recording*
Ruby: Guys! Dont be mean to him!
Pyrrha: *muttering a bit under her breath* guess I was wrong about us getting closer.
*Jaune walks past Weiss, much to everyone's surprise and stands in front of Pyrrha*
Pyrrha: J-Jaune?
Jaune: *Clears his throat and strums his guitar*
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Pyrrha: *Face redder than her hair* I...Uh...
Weiss: *Stunned by what happened*
Ruby and Nora: *Squealing because of how romantic that was*
Yang: *still recording* Woah...Lady Killer sings pretty good.
Blake: Not surprising, heard him practicing last week. Been waiting for this moment. Speaking of, Ren?
Ren: *Sighs* Deal is a deal, here. *hands her 15 lien* two more days Jaune, and i would have won the bet.
Jaune: So...uh...will you go out- *gets tackled by Pyrrha as she kisses his face all over* Gonna assume yes.
-Elsewhere in the Imperial Palace-
Emperor: OH BOY! OH BOY! CRY! CRY! CRY!
Karstodes: My glorious overlord! Are you alright?
Emperor: SOMETHING GLORIOUS HAS HAPPENED AND I'VE LEARNED MY FUCKING BEAUTIFUL SINGING GENES WILL LIVE.
Karstodes: I'm confused my lord? What happened? Also I haven't heard you sing in ages! Oh to hear your voice gets me all exci- *gets punched by a psychic hand*
Emperor: SHUT YOUR FUCKEN MOUTH YOU COCKSTODES! DON'T RUIN THIS MOMENT FOR ME, MY NOODLY BOY GRANDSON HAS WORKED UP THE COURAGE TO ASK OUT A GIRL WHO HAS BEEN CRUSHING ON HIM SO HARD IT COULD CRUSH A DAMN TERMINATOR.
Karstodes: *Thrown down* Ow. Um, my Emperor, you have a grandson? You mean a space marine asked someone out?
EMPEROR: NO. MY SON, LION EL'JOHNSON, IS ALIVE BUT CAN'T REACH ME. HE HAS HAD CHILDREN AND THEY ARE MY BEAUTIFUL GRANDBABIES. IRONICALLY, HE HAD ALL GIRLS AND ONE BOY.....FUCKEN HILARIOUS GIVEN HIS UPBRINGING. ANYWAYS, MY NOODLY GRANDSON HAS SERENADED HIS PARTNER WITH THE BEAUTIFUL VOICE THAT ONLY COULD BE ACHIEVED THROUGH MY GENES. *SOB* ONLY SANGUINIUS HAD SUCH A SINGING VOICE AND NOW MY GRANDSON HAS IT. I FORSEE BLOND REDHAIRED GREAT GRANDCHILDREN SOON! *SOB* I AM SO DAMN HAPPY.
Wamuudes: *slides in the room* My master, I could not help but hear the most wonderful of news. Congratulations my master.
Emperor: THANK YOU. NOW I SHALL USE MY NOT GOD LIKE POWERS TO LET HIM NOW I AM PROUD OF HIM AND THAT HE BETTER TREAT THAT PARTNER OF HIS RIGHT OR SO HELP ME.
Wamuudes: Ooh I'm sure I could teach him a lesson or two in how to please someo- *gets punched*
Emperor: YOU FUCKEN OILY DISAPPOIMENT WILL NOT LUST AFTER MY NOODLE BOY. YOU WILL NOT RUIN THIS FUCKEN MOMENT FOR ME. UNDERSTAND? NOW, BACK TO WHAT I WAS DOING.
-Remnant-
Jaune: *lies on the grass after his team and RWBY had help Pyrrha back to her room since she passed out from the excitement* Well, today has been really good! *smiles but sees something in the sky* huh?
*a projection of the Emperor floats in the sky*
Jaune: Uhhhh....Grandpa?
Emperor: HOLY SHIT IT ACTUALLY WORKED. IM MUFASAING THIS SHIT.
Jaune: Mufasa? What? *pinches himself* I'm not dreaming am i, did I pass out too?
Emperor: NO. I AM HERE FOR THE MOMENT BUT DAMN DOES IT HURT, ANYWAYS. I AM PROUD YOU JAUNE, YOU ACTUALLY ASKED OUT YOUR PARTNER. NOW TREAT HER WELL OR ELSE I WILL SPANK YOUR ASS SO HARD YOU WON'T EVER SIT DOWN AGAIN! UNDERSTAND?
Jaune: *Gulps* Uh Y-yes sir!
EMPEROR: GOOD, NOW! GO FORTH AND CREATE BEAUTIFUL GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN FOR ME! *disappears*
Jaune: *red* Dad did say he likes to embarrass his family at times. Better go see how Pyrrha is doing. *leaves*
-Imperial Palace-
EMPEROR: SWEET MOTHER OF MYSELF THAT WAS PAINFUL BUT HE HAS RECEIVED MY MESSAGE. NOW, TIME TO SCARE DAEMONS IN THE WARP.
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denisefc77-blog · 5 years
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Introduction to Social Research Methods - Week 1
Hello everyone! This is my first Blog experience and it cames with the task to share thoughts and impressions about a edX course that I am attending on Social Research Methods.
I am a consultant and I work with monitoring and evaluation of Social and Economic Projects and Programmes. So, I am constantly designing and implementing research methods.
Currently I am interested in research what are the main variables that affects the success/unsuccess of resourse mobilization initiatives from the Private Sector perspective, or the donnor perspective.  
I would like to research people and organizations.
I still dont know exactly what kind of methods that might help me to gather useful knowledge in this area of interest. But it was suggested that I should consider using qualitative methods such as interviews and focus groups as well as ethnographic approaches and survey research.
I have used those methods before, so I am very familiar with them. I don´t have any initial questions about things I don´t understand yet.
The challenges that I forsee at this point is how to gain access to relevant people from big companies (how to identify and access the right people, those who are the decision makers of sponsor/donnations) and understand how they make those decisions. 
#SOCRMx
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comicteaparty · 6 years
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October 4th, 2018 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on October 4th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on Finding Home by Hari.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Finding Home by Hari~! (https://tapas.io/series/FindingHome)
Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
keii4ii
I don't know if this counts as a "scene," but I really liked seeing the flowers bloom on Chepi from his emotions.
Superjustinbros
Aww~
Also hello there!
RebelVampire
yeah i thought that was a really interesting and unique detail. but also felt kind of sorry for chepi cause i mean, thats a dead give away youre feeling an emotion. cannot hide anything. cannot be a tsundere that says its not like i like you or anything
hi SJ~!
Superjustinbros
Thanks for the welcome, Rebel~
keii4ii
I wonder if it's possible to lie with the flowers, like how some people are able to fake tears/ blushing/ etc when they're an exceptionally good actor/liar? Probably not the case with Chepi, though
Superjustinbros
Maybe, or each mood gets represented by different kinds of flowers
RebelVampire
yeah i dont forsee chepi being the best liar persay. but maybe. and tbf have we seen any other dryad do it? this may be a unique feature of chepi because chepi has a unique situation
Superjustinbros
Maybe
RebelVampire
my favorite scene is the one where chepi speads to a bug and janek is like what. but chepi doesnt register that its not the language thing but the fact hes talking to a bug.
i also like in that scene how real the convo was. where janek sounds unintentionally ignorant and kind of racist, but not out of malicious intent. just out of the fact janek never really thought about it before.
keii4ii
Yeah, there's been quite a few examples of non-malicious ignorance
as well as other kinds of misunderstandings
I'm really curious about how they met. This seems to be a relatively new relationship, as in they weren't like... longtime friends or anything, so the beginning of it may still have a lot of relevance
mathtans
Made it. That was a real interesting way to get across some of the language stuff for the universe too, I thought.
RebelVampire
yeah ive been wondering that myself. how the two even met up in the first place. although it seems like they had some form of acquaintanceship
mathtans
A lot of their conversations are pretty realistic.
Seems like they just met because the chef was trying to get home?
RebelVampire
yeah it could be as simple as they were in the same town. chepi was like "i like helping ppl i will help this person"
cause chepi is a good dude
who does good dude things
except for the part where he jeapordizes his own health
thats a bad dude thing
mathtans
Yeah, he's had a rough go of it.
keii4ii
There's probably a little more to that, or at least that's the impression I get
I mean, it seemed like he wanted Janek's company for personal reasons too, even if they weren't Compelling Super Important Goals
Superjustinbros
Christ, definitely not a good thing
The jeopardizing your health part
mathtans
One of the scenes I particularly liked was early on. Where the one guy was "filling the silence" by talking a lot. It was an interesting visual in how it was laid out, and I've been on both sides of that... wanting to fill what I feel is an awkward silence as well as just wanting to enjoy stillness.
There might be a little more to it, but I'm not certain either of them are keen to acknowledge it.
keii4ii
Weird. I started reading this comic when it was still pretty new, and this scene I remember reading isn't there anymore. O_o
I wonder if it was deleted because of not fitting with the creator's vision anymore, because the impression I got from that scene was rather different
RebelVampire
that could be. i think a print volume was kickstartered and that is generally the time when heavy editing occurs
mathtans
Oh? You mean the flower blooming one? Because I remember seeing that...
I also looked at the holiday bonus that was linked away, incidentally. The mistletoe one. That was amusing and touching.
RebelVampire
i also liked that scene too, math. the one with the silence filling. but more than that i really appreciate the understanding that happened between the two. in that chepi didnt mind janek was busy rambling on and on and on. cause i understood how janek felt in feeling awkward about filling the silence too
keii4ii
No, I remember this scene where one of them is talking to some soldiers?
mathtans
Rebel: Right, that aspect of it helped it to stand out for me, I think. One of those times they had an understanding, almost unspoken.
keii4ii
(I could be remembering it wrong )
mathtans
In a flashback, I guess...?
RebelVampire
yeah i dont remember any scene with soldiers. it couldve been an extra of some sort? cause i generally dont look at extras
keii4ii
Yeah, it's not there. I might be mixing things up, unless the comic was rebooted at some point
RebelVampire
thats okay. i like to think its opportunity to speculate
cause there probably is something more
cause despite saying it, even i find it more believable there was something else going on besides chepi is a good dude
QUESTION 2. Throughout the comic, Chepi is shown to be a somewhat anxious person due to past experiences. How do you think Chepi came to be born in the first place? Do you think it has anything to do with why Chepi was encouraged to not like humans? What do you think happened exactly between Chepi and Ishaan that made the relationship have such a traumatic impact on Chepi? Do you think it was a bad relationship from the start, or do you think there were genuine, mutual feelings at the beginning? Do you think the person helping Chepi to publish his works is really altruistic, or is said person just out for their own gain? Lastly, do you think Chepi will be able to overcome all his trauma (and will Janek help or hurt these personal issues)?
keii4ii
TBH I've seen zero reasons to trust that dude
mathtans
Which one?
Superjustinbros
The publisher?
RebelVampire
idk how i feel about ishaan. i wanna give ishaan the benefit of the doubt at least for the beginning of the relationship. but even when ishaan was being all impressed by chepi i got sleezy impressions.
mathtans
As far as Chepi being born... fun fact, in the prologue, at first I thought maybe we were seeing Chepi's father. And, like, he was born of two guys or something, like that's the only way to get a mixed race type.
RebelVampire
LOL. well i mean, not impossible. we are dealing with fae and such.
mathtans
Ishaan's that smoking guy in the flashbacks...? (I'm so bad with names.) I figure there had to be something initially other than "here's an easy mark". But it morphed into something else. Also, profound effect due to his first romantic rejection, that's gotta hurt more than being rejected from the university (and even being shunned in the library).
RebelVampire
yes smoking guy who chepi dated is ishaan
i wanna say that maybe ishaan didnt start with bad intentions. but i also think he might have been attracted to chepi for the novelty of it. cause then he could brag to all his friends about his cool significant other
granted not sure if that logic matches up with the fact ishaan wanted chepi to look more human
so it could be the exact opposite in that ishaan genuinely liked chepi but did not like chepi was half dryad. and ishaan dealt with that in the most toxic way possible
mathtans
Except I don't think he could brag either, as his friends would say he was hanging around with a weirdo freak.
That last theory possibly works.
keii4ii
I get the impression that even if he was genuinely attracted to Chepi, he was always the type of a guy who manipulates and gaslights people whenever given the opportunity
mathtans
keii: There is that. Guy should just get his own oranges.
RebelVampire
i get the impression that ishaan is used to just getting what he wants and is some spoiled rich guy or something. so yeah, manipulation and gaslighting very probable
although i also dont trust the person chepi is using as a cover to publish his papers
that person rubs be the wrong way
cause the convo just seemed really manipulative
mathtans
That's kind of funny though, because Chepi is also a rich guy who prefers to do his own thing. Maybe that's partly why they ended up together.
I'm okay with her (I think it was a her). True that they might be getting more out of the arrangement, but I think it comes from a good place. Also, Chepi has access to the basement books, which seems like a decent thing to do.
Also, I want a backpack like that. O.o
RebelVampire
yeah at the end they havent done anything evil yet. so i could be be overly suspicious. but chepi sure is getting the short end of the stick and it makes me sad and hurts my poor heart
mathtans
He does, yeah. I think he's kind of closed himself off in order to deal with it.
Superjustinbros
That seems reasonable
RebelVampire
i do think chepi is gonna learn to deal with his trauma better. cause i mean hes already taking those critical first steps of talking about the problem a bit. not all the way, but hes said more than he probably would have previously
keii4ii
Yes
mathtans
I wonder if he'll manage to deal with his crowds situation too. (I know that feeling, though not to the extent of being triggered or anything.)
RebelVampire
the crowds one may take more time ironically imo. just because the issue behind that is harder to fix. since even if chepi was like "lets go cold turkey into a crowd," it is more likely his fears will get reaffirmed
Superjustinbros
Perhaps.
Seems like a fear that’s hard to remove anyways
mathtans
Yes, though he's got the travelling companion now, so small steps.
RebelVampire
yeah although that may forever be his comfort level. and i dont blame him for that cause he may just be an introvert who prefers setups like that. cause even with the dryads he seemed very much a soloist
mathtans
True.
Superjustinbros
Same.
mathtans
Also means less making demands on him.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. Janek and Chepi grow ever closer throughout their journey, though some issues seem to get between the two. Do you think the relationship between the two will ever become something more, or will trauma and other issues continue to get in the way? Even if they do become romantically involved, do you think it would work out? What about when the two reach Erkesh? Will their relationship last (whether romantically or as friends) even then? Or, will Chepi simply move on to his next destination? For that matter, do you think the two will even make it to Erkesh? Additionally, given the title of the comic is “Finding Home,” what do you think that means for each character and their personal journeys? In other words, what is “home?”
Superjustinbros
There's people that struggle lots with groups
mathtans
(Ones he'd be inclined to help with.)
I feel like they're building towards a relationship, a healing one, so I'd be a bit surprised if that doesn't happen. There'll still be bumps along the way though, for sure.
Like, they keep finding out things about each other that alter their perceptions.
Superjustinbros
Yea
mathtans
Also, home is where the heart is?
RebelVampire
part of me would be surprised if they dont cross that threshold from friends to something more. cause they keep bonding and the chemistry is super strong. but on the otherhand, this comic feels a lot like a journey wherein i feel the destination is gonna throw me a bit. so i could also see them not being able to. or ya know, there being a dramatic fakeout where chepi leaves janek in erkesh but then comes back being like "what was i thinking"
keii4ii
I feel that it's not about forming a relationship (though that's a strong possibility). It's about finding "home" and if both of them grow and reach a point where they simply become more comfortable with the self, separately, I can see them going separate ways too...
mathtans
I suppose that could happen (the fakeout), but really rooting for Chepi to have a happy ending. Versus, saying, dying in Janek's arms while saying "I'm finally happy".
keii4ii
omg
mathtans
I can see them going separate ways, but somehow not before being intimate. Could be the shipper in me.
RebelVampire
well tbf the comic is genred romance so...
mathtans
Chepi might totally sacrifice himself to deal Janek though.
RebelVampire
theres kind of high expectations here for some romance
mathtans
(Speaking of, I like his dry sense of humour... "come down from there, it would be a pain to heal every bone in your body" or words to that effect.)
RebelVampire
im gonna hope this comic doesnt go chepi death route. mostly cause despite its serious issues, its a pretty light-hearted comic.
keii4ii
It's got very gentle, soft vibes
Superjustinbros
Ye
Not every comic needs death
mathtans
I don't know if I'd say light-hearted? It has chuckle moments to be sure.
My opinion, anyway. Yes, vibes.
RebelVampire
imo the sense of home in this comic's case is a place where you feel comfortable and can be yourself. and if that place happens to be wherever another person is, well then...
yeah light-hearted might not be the right word but on 3 hours of sleep its the word i got O_O
mathtans
Home is where the wisps aren't.
I feel you, I only got about 4 hours sleep.
RebelVampire
i will also accept that answer. home is where the wisps arent
cause those wisps are creepy
now if there is tragedy in this comic, the thing i could see happening is they get to erkesh....but erkesh isnt there anymore
and janek has nowhere to go
home is gone
very sad
ah i forgot to say i do like chepi's dry sense of humor. partly cause i like that he has a sense of humor despite seeming so serious all the time
Superjustinbros
r.i.p. home
mathtans
Ooooh. I could see that too, that the wisps have destroyed the old home. That might be bittersweet.
His sense of humour sometimes flies a bit under the radar for me. Like, when he talked about studying since he was a baby I was like, 'dryads do that?' then I realized I was a species-ist.
RebelVampire
yeah i have to agree that sometimes it takes a moment for chepi's jokes to register as jokes. but then i have a good laugh.
mathtans
Because there's times when he's not, like when he's just going for a swim and all.
The hair discussion was pretty interesting though. It's funny, in a way growing the hair out long seemed like an emotional, human thing to do, and the guy had been trying to get Chepi to be more human.
RebelVampire
yeah i liked this little act of rebellion for chepi. cause i mean it feels really realistic too. because lots of ppl getting out of bad relationships do trivial things like this, even though for them the emotional impact is significant
i really liked the swimming scene in general though
cause i think something about it really illustrated the individual diffs between janek and chepi
and how both their selves and upbringings brought about different attitudes
QUESTION 4. Though not the focus, the comic’s world has a lot of interesting aspects that affect the characters. Do you think things will improve for Fae within the world, or will Chepi always suffer from negative policies and views from both sides? Do you think spending time with Janek will give Chepi new insight into how he can better help people? Alternatively, will spending time with Janek show Chepi a way to convince more Fae to help mortals? Speaking of the supernatural, do you think the Wisps will continue to be a danger to Janek and Chepi? Do you think the amount of Wisps about is normal, or do you feel it’s foreshadowing something sinister is about? Finally, Chepi at one point mentions a magical surge that has been growing. How might this affect the world in general, and do you think Chepi will be the one to figure out what’s going on?
mathtans
Yeah, definitely from two different worlds.
Oh yeah, the magical surge... maybe that does explain the wisps too? And if that map he found is really old, maybe it's all happened before, like decades ago, and it stopped surging after the Imperials lost or something.
Superjustinbros
I'd say maybe a mixture of both? Things will improve, but our protagonists will slowly encounter new problems.(edited)
RebelVampire
true, the world is rarely ever perma fixed.
the magical surge really has me interested because something about it was so ominous
mostly the abandoned house
and cause it made me suspicious that besides the destroyed village they really havent come across any form of civilization
or other ppl
what if theyre in some time paradox in the future and the world is destroyed
mathtans
So it becomes about fleeing to another realm, which was foreshadowed in that talk about whether Chepi even could.(edited)
RebelVampire
i dont remember this convo but im gonna gasp anyway
Superjustinbros
Paradoxes why must you exist
RebelVampire
idk. it just felt like something suspicious was going on. and i do feel the wisp situation has an abnormal quality to it. at the very least i dont think they go around village destroying on the regular
mathtans
He said they were old too, right? Could be relevant... Chopi's mom was over 200 or something...
It's interesting how we're gradually learning more about the world, including the urban centres, while we're pretty far removed from them. Incidentally, I think Janek would be dead a few times over if not for his friend, what with wisps and poison mushrooms and no map.
RebelVampire
yeah. like i wonder what janek intended to do if chepi hadnt offered to guide the way. would janek just be stuck at wherever theyre traveling from?
but yeah i really like how the world is being told in the story
because its never in a way thats separate from teh characters
if its being told, its somehow relavent to how the world has effected them
mathtans
Maybe he'd have to have taken public transit.
Yeah, it's all connected. But the characters have their own families and backstories thought out, like Janek's sister.
RebelVampire
LOL chepi and janek take forest route, but then the whole time theres like an express train system that couldve had janek to erkesh in an hour
that would be hilarious
very unfitting
but hilarious
Superjustinbros
lol
mathtans
"We built it a couple days after you left."
RebelVampire
back to the question, i dont think anything chepi or janek will do will actually improve relationships between humans and fae. because theyre just kind of two people...wandering a forest. so for the moment they cant make that big a world impact.
unless theyre the last two ppl in the world
mathtans
There were imperial forces and everything though, I wonder what sort of technology level their warfare was.
RebelVampire
then relations improved
mathtans
Yeah, prejudice like that is pretty deep seated. Can only change individuals on the travels, I think.
Unless the magic surge helps others to feel the emotions Chepi has.
Like, "oh crud, that's what we've driven you to?"
RebelVampire
yeah. cause at the end magical surge is pretty vague. although imo a magical surge could be detrimental to humans and actually shrink their territory. because the magical surge could be why the wisps be destroying villages
mathtans
Shrink their "territory".
Magical surge is like cold water.
RebelVampire
oh dear
since there are only some moments, i want to take this chance to talk about the illustrations. because its a sad thing they havent been mentioned because the illustrations are really gorgeous. like nature is a hard thing to draw, but here this comic just puts it everywhere O_O
Superjustinbros
Can I have some of that surge? It's super warm here lol(edited)
RebelVampire
everywhere
mathtans
Yes, that's a great point. One of those things that would stand out if it was done wrong, the comic gets it very right.
Also, that whole thing with the flowers connecting to moods, that's kind of amazing. I didn't know that was a thing.
Superjustinbros
I'd love to see more of that
RebelVampire
yeah. like the flora in general is used in a very interesting way in the comic. because usually whats shown helps emphasis the tone and atmosphere of the scenes.
and honestly i give points to any comic that doesnt shy from the backgrounds
mathtans
That's a good point. I'm not great at noticing those sorts of details.
Superjustinbros
^
mathtans
The output's been pretty consistent for that too... like, 100 pages in less than two years?
I couldn't manage that.
Superjustinbros
Anyways, good luck with the comic, Hari, you're putting together something really magical here.(edited)
RebelVampireToday at 6:59 PM
yeah. although even if the pages took longer i wouldnt mind it. the backgrounds are honestly worth it because i feel theyre integral to showcasing the world at this point
mathtans
Yup, best with it!
Also the romance.
RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB END!
Sadly, this wraps up this week’s Thursday Book Club chat for now. Thank you so much to everyone for reading and joining us! We want to give a special thank you to Hari, as well, for making Finding Home. If you liked the comic, make sure to support Hari’s efforts however you’re able to~!
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“Catherine” - EPISODE 3
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Honestly I'm me believing Seamus when he tells me everyones voting for Shea and I end up putting some cocky ass confessional that looks absolutely dumb now because he didn't go. I'm. Just. Sad. I should've known better whew. Anyway I need a swap or something, like I need new people and ones that actually wanna form solid alliances because literally nothing is happening here and I'm too eager to just sit around...Anyway...Send help...And wish me luck.
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my game consists of nothing but doing what amanda & kait tell me to do.. D: im sorry i'm a flop i've just been real busy....if i make it to merge i'll start playing then
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My tribe is doing that. I survived our first tribal council, and got myself into a majority. I literally told everyone they're the only person I talk to lol I love people quitting like honestly my aesthetic is people leaving without me having to do anything. Who's next?!
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So I went from winning two immunities to getting second to last! Ahaha at least I might not look like a threat! Right after rhea was announced as immune I went to working making sure I was safe I talked to rob, Amanda, rhea, kait and Emma to get Steven out! If all goes well I'll be safe and we can move on to the next challenge 
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Honestly this Matilda thing isn't so bad. 1, I'm in Chicago so it's hard to participate depending on the challenge. 2, as long as the vote goes as planned this time having everyone vulnerable for the next ones allows my alliance to vote out who we want. Seamus should be going tonight which makes me sad because he is really cool and awesome to talk to. But because of the reactions from last vote it's the best move. Hopefully the game changers continue to dominate. But ya never know with this game. 
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WHEW me getting out in the first round? I believe it. Relatable content. I'm so hungover and I don't have the patience to figure out the vote. I think it's Seamus, but I need to check in with people, but I'm also trying to not fucking vomit. 
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Alright so I'm kinda sad I flopped in the challenge, both winning/losing it....And now no matter what we're all vulnerable next round thanks to the lovely Matilda so everything is just lovely. On the bright side Kait told me she found the idol so Queen! As of right now I think I'm in a good spot and as far as I know the vote is between Shea and Seamus. I really want Shea to go because I trust Seamus! Like he really got screwed over last vote and I'm shocked people handled that so poorly!? Like don't make people believe something's the vote when it's not!?!? I literally thought he knew about the split but then Lily told me she didn't tell him about it and just let him vote Shea like......Why would you do that...So now I'm a bit nervous about Lily but I think I can trust her for now. That's about it for now but I'm gonna try everything I can to make sure Seamus isn't caught in the crosshairs here.
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so last round these mcfucking liars of tribemates told me they were all voting shea but then voted veronica and didnt tell me :/ so i kinda had to play catch up and guilt a few of them so they wouldnt target me this week. i believe again that sheais going home this week but im p sure im getting some votes
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So it sounds like shea is going tonight? Which is cool with me because he hasn't been talking to me much recently. I wasn't sure about Seamus because of how the last vote went but it seems like Seamus and I are good. I just don't want any flippers going into a merge tbh. Haha. But honestly people will flip shit will go down and we just wanna go in with the best tribe possible. Also this Matilda thing? Might actually be okay if we have the same tribes tomorrow. I'm worried we will have a tribe swap and all of the tasi people won't be able to get immunity so we will all get voted out. I'm glad I don't have to do a challenge while I'm in Chicago tho so that's good. Hopefully everything works out and I don't get too much anxiety. 
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I think I orchestrated my first vote ever and it was amazing. I got out Sam, screw him, he's the worst and I bet he didn't care about the game. Now I want Steven gone, cause... who's Steven? He seems snealy too. I think I might go too, so I'm not cocky.
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I hate everyone still. This tribe is boring AF. Rob goes and tells everyone last night about his plan to vote Steven this vote, which is fine by me bc I didn't even know there was a Steven on our tribe!!!!! However like Darian and Amandie (they will be referred to as that from here on out) came to me about it also after. So okay Rob I see you leaving me out until TODAY!!!' Freak. Anyways, I'm fine with him thinking he's some kind of kingpin for now til I decide I'm tired of doing what I'm told hehehe
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So I won immunity!! https://media2.giphy.com/media/1ofR3QioNy264/200.webp#4 I can't believe I actually won an immunity! And so, here I am just like,  https://media4.giphy.com/media/qGmYKpdCVoXu0/200.webp#8 I don't like that Darian is calling all the shots! https://media.giphy.com/media/vouHgfse1v7cA/giphy.gif I want him to go soon, but I forsee him easily making the merge which scares me. 
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I CAN FINALLY VOTE!!!!! London Tipton voice "YAY ME" *clap clap*
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So I go to do the deep challenger thing and....they say get past level 4 on what's inside the box. I was like okay, but then I realize, I played this game literally yesterday for fun and I was like oh okay, and then I realize I chose some pussy shit lol
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From what I can tell...The plan is to leave Kelsey out of the loop which is so stupid. I don't know why these people want to ostracize so many people from votes like they did it with Seamus last vote with no valid reason!?!? I know Kelsey felt sympathy for Shea last vote which is making people nervous so that makes a little bit more sense but like...I just don't feel comfortable leaving people out of the loop? Ugh. This is just too much. 
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Okay so my confessionals have sucked and I'm sorry. Lily, Liana, Dan, and I are all in an alliance and we've decided who's getting voted out every round and this time we'e going for Shea. Last time he got wind that his name was being thrown out there even though it was the decoy name and he went OFF!! LIKE HE WAS CRAZY FREAKING OUT AT EVERYONE! And during the first vote he was throwing out EVERYONE'S name! He threw out mine, Christine's, and Carson's and those are just the ones that I heard about. Who knows who else he was saying. So his messy ass has got to go. I think we might be swapping soon and I don't want to get stuck with someone who's going to throw me under the bus the first second they get to save themselves. So I also got to go to that Challenger Deep thing. IT FUCKING SUCKED! I HATED IT! I picked level 25 because I think hey that's pretty deep and the deeper you go the harder the challenge but the bigger prize! TOO BAD THE PRIZES WAS A FUCKING PUNISHMENT! Now no one from my tribe can compete in the immunity challenge next time and I feel awful. If we stay in these tribes then it'll make it easier to just vote out Kelsey but if it's a swap we're all fucked because of it.
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I....Might've caved and told Kelsey the plan. If this backfires.....I'm dead. I just felt so bad like Kelsey didn't deserve to be left out, you know? Don't let me down Kelsey, don't let me down.
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Im just doing this so I dont get a strike
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Girl. Hold my hair...this week was too much. Coming off of Veronica's elimination, I was feeling so good for Shea and I. It seemed like we have finally found some leverage in the competition and I was ready to run with it. However, when I checked in today and saw a severe lack of people wanting to talk strategy, I knew something was up. Winning immunity was amazing and I don't regret that for a second but I think it softened my reaction time a little bit. I think the biggest challenge for me in this game is actually pushing myself out there. I'm usually very confident in my facade of being a harmless player letting me be subtle in my moves but I don't think that's the case at all anymore. If you don't speak up, you're outspoken and...that showed this week. It's a deadly balance that you have to find and on the tribe this week, it just didn't work for me. Originally, Shea wanted to do Seamus but lil' ol me thought we could get out another person who's a threat such as Liana since Seamus still makes an effort to talk to me. When it came to the votes and convincing others...not many people wanted to strategize with me and that was a definite problem. The only people who kept it real with me- or shall I say person- was Catherine. (Host Note: Whom??) THAT is something I appreciate more than anything. I thought that Lily would but unfortunately she was "out" the whole day. Girl...get a grip. Catherine (???) would definitely be the only person I cling to in the competition IF we were still together but...we. Merged. DEAR JESUS AND LORD ABOVE, THANK THE HEAVENS!!! I know I'm not going to be able to win immunity, but at this point, I could care less. This is definitely something that came at just the right time. I was at the bottom of my tribe and I know a few people are still going to be coming after me, especially coming off of my immunity win. However, I'm giving this week everything that I've got. While I doubt more and more I was the real mastermind of eliminating Veronica, the reason why I was prominent in that elimination was because I was bold. Not aggressive, just bold. I think if I can harness that quality again, I can breakthrough another one. Tasi is OVER, darling. Liana is already fuming despite her attempts to cover it up. There are people from Tasi that I bet will never talk to me again now that we're merged. Everything I want, I've definitely got to work myself for. Basically, it's what I expected it to be being a new player; it's me working for myself now. Now's the part where veterans who know each other and people with connections outside of this game start linking back up. It's up to me to start really wedging myself in. I want to give people a reason to vote out anyone BUT me. And at this point, now that Shea's gone, I'm going Open Season on all of these hookers. Miracles are hard to do, but if I did it once, I can do it again. I REALLY want to show these people what I can do. I came to slash throats, save my family and wear ugg boots. And if I have to do it from scratch? Christina, bring me the axe; NAAAAAOOO!!!! Wish me luck! Sincerely, Canada's Self Proclaimed Favourite; Kelsey Mikaelson~! 
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January 7th-January 13th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party week long chat that occurred from January 7th, 2019 to January 13th, 2019.  The chat focused on MoonSlayer by Monica NGalvan.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- WEEK LONG BOOK CLUB START! Hello and welcome everyone to Comic Tea Party’s Week Long Book Club~! This week we’ll be focusing on MoonSlayer by Monica NGalvan~! (http://moonslayercomic.com/) You are free to read and comment about the comic all week at your own pace, so stop on by whenever it suits your schedule! Remember, though, that while we allow constructive criticism, our focus is to have fun and appreciate the comic. Below you will find four questions to get you started on the discussion. However, a new question will be posted and pinned everyday (between 12:01AM and 6AM PST), so keep checking back for more! You have until January 13th to tell us all your wonderful thoughts! With that established, let’s get going on the reading and the chatting!
QUESTION 1. What has been your favorite scene in the comic so far? What specifically did you like about it?
QUESTION 2. At the moment, who is your favorite character? What about that character earns them this favor?
QUESTION 3. What is Nirúr’s role in Syrma’s curse? Why is her Syrma’s death so important to Deneb and Nirúr’s goals? Is Nirúr as evil as everyone makes him out to be?
QUESTION 4. What do you think happened in the past that convinced Menkar to join to the side of the liosalfar (besides his past betrayal of his former king)? How might revealing this affect Syrma’s quest?
monicang
Hi everyone! I'm Monica, the author of MoonSlayer. This is just for telling you that you can ask me anything you want to know about my comic! Thanks and I hope you enjoy it!
RebelVampire
QUESTION 5. Why is the Storyteller helping Syrma? What exactly are the Storyteller’s ultimate goals regarding Arunor? Do you believe Puck will remain loyal to the Storyteller, or will he now work for Deneb?
QUESTION 6. What do you believe Henna did in the past that caused her to be exiled from the court of the sidhe? What does this have to do with Henna turning into a monster? Also, what deal did Henna make with Puck?
RebelVampire
1) my favorite scene is probably when henna goes to bathe and puck shows up and we start learning that something is wrong with henna. i enjoy the illustration work a lot with how much detailed work is put into henna's appearance. but i also just like the elements added to the story because it really adds this forboding sense that time is running out for everyone really, not just syrma. and i think the addition really helps to add more stakes to the matter, since the more lives in the balance the better? XD 2) this is a tough choice. probably henna. of the designs i like hers the most because its just so strange, mystical, and beautiful at the same time. but also i like how teasing she can get in one scene but then serious and badass in another. all around shes just a really intriguing character to me that i enjoy learning about. 3) I wouldnt label Nirur as "evil" so much as id probably assume hes self-absorbed and concerned only with his well-being. as for his role, i assume some magic shenanigans where somehow syrma's death will help release him. although i feel like not everything is as it seems. like nirur expects his sister to fail and is just trying to get syrma to come to him to trick her into using her inability to be affected by magic to bust him out of god jail. but just spit balling on that one i have no real evidence other then i assume nirur is cunning. 4) i think maybe the liosalfar saved menkar's life. and that menkar may have really just been depressed and had nowhere else to go at the time. i dont think itll reall affect the quest so much as make syrma go "omg hugs for menkar"
5) given the convo the storyteller had with hatal, im gonna assume hes helping syrma out of boredom. cause it seems implied that their world is just kind of stuck and static, never changing and never growing. and i think the storyteller just wants that to change. which i mean to be fair, you cant be a good storyteller when there are no stories to tell. and you cant have good stories without change, growth, and progress. as for puck, yeah i think hes gonna remain loyal to the storyteller. just cause deneb probably wouldnt help him even if he helped her. 6) im gonna just take a stab in the dark here and say maybe forbidden magic comboed with a lack of deference to the crown. although i assume that henna was exiled partly because nobody wants a monster in their lands, so better to get them out before theyre too dangerous to lose. as for the deal, help syrma and get cured? i mean that seems the most likely. and i assume it was a generally vague deal that henna partly regrets cause theres a lot of help needed.
keii4ii
1) This may be a weird choice, but I really liked the scene when Syrma kissed Menkar and ran off. Or rather, that's the scene that made me like her. It's not that I ship them (I'm aro and rarely get excited for shippy stuff). Rather, it made her feel more 3-dimensional to me. There's a lot of scenes portraying her as this perky, reckless warrior-huntress... But there's gotta be more to her than just the fighting and the hunting, right? And that kiss scene did it for me. She was still the same perky, reckless girl, so it wasn't like showing an unexpected hidden side of her. But it still showed that there are mundane moments in her life, too.
6) There is a short story in the Threads anthology that goes over this. I actually read that short story before reading the main comic... It doesn't explain everything, but it explains a lot.
Kabocha
I've only just now started reading this comic, so I'll answer the questions later... But I really like the art so far. It's lovely and incredibly intricate!
RebelVampire
QUESTION 7. What do you believe the group will do regarding the last potion ingredient since Henna’s blood is useless? How might Farian and the other sidhe help or hurt the situation?
funakounasoul
I need to do an archive binge of this comic again but I wanna just say that I love this story. Love Syrma and want to see how she achieves her goals. I love the art style. It's clean and professional but it's on a stylistic side that attracts me (I tend to not go for stories, especially fantasies, where the cast looks too realistic). Keep up the amazing work, Monica! :D
Kabocha
1. What has been your favorite scene in the comic so far? What specifically did you like about it? http://moonslayercomic.com/comic/ch5-20/ I loved this sequence -- Syrma getting the Angisu was pretty dang neat to see, especially when she threw the flames at the monsters! 2. Probably Deneb. She's got enough mystery around her, but so far I just like how... IDK, goal-oriented she is? She's interesting so far, and I want to know what she has in mind for Syrma. 3. NO IDEA! I think Deneb probably expects that Syrma will take her place, and that's why she chose her and took her magic -- this was all necessary to get her ready. 4. Menkar was probably going to be king before the other guy was put in place, and things went badly. 5. I can't really say why the storyteller might be helping Syrma, but I do wonder how much of this has to do with fate? Alternatively, Deneb could be totally losing it and degenerating somehow, and he's trying to find a peaceful end for her. ...Granted, nothing involving Syrma ever seems to be peaceful for long. 6. ...Y'know, I'd like to know what Henna did? I imagine her exile is directly related to becoming a monster, and is just a consequence of not being with her people... I do think, based on the cast page, that Henna probably helped Iris become immortal, which pissed off several sidhe.
snuffysam
1. Definitely the sequence where Syrma first uses the Angisu. The flames turning into claws around her hands... beautiful. 2. Syrma. I just love the way you see her grow up throughout the comic. 3. I think Deneb wants to use Syrma to free her brother somehow? I'm not sure how sacrificing Syrma would help with that, however. 4. I agree with Rebel on this one. Menkar was exiled for his betrayal, and the liosalfar took him in. 5. I think it's possible the Storyteller just disagrees with Deneb's actions, and wants to stop her somehow? As for Puck, I think he may pretend to be loyal to Deneb, but I still think he's going to help Syrma overall. 6. Agreed with the other sentiments, I'd also like to posit that maybe Henna doesn't know if she's actually helping Syrma, or if she's a traitor. After all, she threatened to reveal her deal with Puck to Syrma and Menkar, which isn't something you do if you're only being helpful.
Kabocha
Seeing how Puck got in a hell of a lot of trouble, I do wonder if it's just that nobody wants Deneb to know what's goin' on
snuffysam
the whole comic is leading up to a surprise birthday party
Kabocha
Oh no! D'ya think Syrma and Deneb have the same birthday? Maybe Deneb's just trying to prevent Syrma from crashing her party or something.
snuffysam
it's the only reasonable explanation i feel
RebelVampire
QUESTION 8. What insight do you believe the beginning of the comic gives us to the current story? What do you predict given that Syrma was warned about being seduced and is also emphasized to be all alone?
RebelVampire
i want to add to some of the discussion that i kind of think deneb isnt losing it. i think shes already lost it. XD in the sense that shes just being completely used by her brother and just flat out cant see it. is so dedicated to him nothing about morality or anything else registers to her anymore. its all about getting nirur out of prison, even her children be damned. 7) maybe theyre gonna be extremists and kidnap farian. cause that can only go well right? although i forsee them getting majorly delayed, caught, and sent to sidhe court. puck can be their lawyer. 8) the fact shes all alone....gonna be honest. i just assume everyone be dead. henna is a monster, puck got offed by deneb, menkar died fighting the dragon. cause i dont have optimism from that beginning. i feel like the warning about being seduced is gonna cause syrma to maybe sympathize with deneb some. see that she is a victim of nirur's machinations. and then syrma will kill them both cause i mean the title is moonslayer O_O
monicang
I have to admit that I'm amazed with the guessings and theories of all of you. Some of them are quite close to the truth.
Kabocha
Maybe Nirur lost it and that's why he's locked up... and Deneb's susceptible to the same issue as him. And Syrma's... well, Syrma's going to take over for both of them. Regarding question 8 -- I'm honestly worried xD Like, what's Nirur gonna do? Try and tempt her with power and such? Surely he knows she's not really attracted to that... Unless he can promise her all sorts of things like, her family back, a happy life... using illusions. But maybe he'll also just try to win her heart. XD
Monica -- oh my!
RebelVampire
QUESTION 9. Do you believe that Syrma and Menkar’s relationship is changing, or is it all just playful teasing? How might the growing tension between them change the direction of Syrma’s quest?
snuffysam
No idea what Syrma's intentions are, but I don't think Menkar's going to take the teasing seriously. like 1) from his point of view, syrma was a baby yesterday, and 2) pretty sure he watched his wife and kid(s) die.
keii4ii
It reminds me of something from a game, when a human character and a dragon character interact. They'd met and fought together as allies in a war 3 years prior. They reunite, the dragon gives the human what he needed, and goes on her way. Human: Wait! Aren't we going to talk and catch up? It's been 3 years! Dragon: What? But we saw each other just 3 years ago!
My guess is Syrma has a crush that she's okay with being unrequited, because she understands there are the differences between them. By the same token, I think she might feel jealous if Menkar were to pursue a relationship with another woman, especially a mortal/non-dragon woman (I don't think this likely, just speaking hypothetically). Not like vehemently jealous, just a "hey I thought... ugh n/m " kinda thing.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 10. What are you most looking forward to in the comic? Also, do you have any final thoughts to share overall?
RebelVampire
9) i do think the relationship is changing. they seem way too blushy and into the flirting for it not to be. but more i think the dynamic thats changing is them both kind of coming to terms with the fact that they may have some feelings for each other, even if they dont know what to do with them. in terms of changing the direction of syrma's question, i assume itll motivate her more. up until menkar probably gets killed cause i ahve no hope for him to live through this quest. 10) i am looking forward to syrma's growth most of all i think. cause shes still got a ways to go before she's ready for any moon slaying. so im interested to see in how the future trials challenge her and prepare her for the task at hand.
keii4ii
I'm looking forward to finding out what the whole deal is with the intro, obviously! Wanna know what everyone's endgame is: Storyteller, Puck, Nirur, Deneb, etc. (I also wonder if the sun is ever gonna be more involved? )
snuffysam
what if everyone's fine having a nice picnic and syrma's just alone because she's the only one who could go through the gate,
RebelVampire
that is also possible. i just dont think itd sit well with the other charas
snuffysam
it's not a happy picnic
RebelVampire
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November 8th, 2018 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on November 8th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PST.  The chat focused on Anacrine Complex by Sae.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Anacrine Complex by Sae~! (http://pigeoncomic.com/)
Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
RebelVampire
i liked the whole sequence in Lee's head. illustrative wise it was really creative and had so much subtle detail that helped breathe that sense that they were not in the real world. not to mention the color balance really leaves you feel kind of ominous
ShaRose49
What criticism? Man, I agree! I loved the sequence in his head, it was cooler to me than Inside Out in many ways cause it reminded me more of my own head
I think Lee was my favourite but Ben was so funny he reminded me of Hinayana from Haikyuu
Superjustinbros
Hello there~
ShaRose49
Hinata
Is what I meant to say
Hi!
Superjustinbros
Pleasure to be here ^^
ShaRose49
My favourite scene was probably the scene in Lee’s mind too-but I also loved the Jujitsu scene, and the scene at the beginning with Ben and Lee and the explosion
The pleasure is all ours
And I just found out that I have nowhere to be this evening so I’ll probably be chatting more than I thought
RebelVampire
fantastic
Superjustinbros
http://pigeoncomic.com/page/4
Looking through, I found this one charming
ShaRose49
It was a ton of fun
RebelVampire
i think ben is my favorite. cause while hes not as serious or practical as lee (which lee is a precious angel), i like how he has to basically interpret everything as a game. and i think they just make him really unique and entertaining
i like ben and lee as a package though. i think they have an interesting personality mesh that isnt quite perfect for drama but isnt quite completely opposite so they can work together and achieve common goals. like its that perfect blend of subtle awesome that not a lot of comics can achieve
Superjustinbros
http://pigeoncomic.com/post/170447488832/spider-ben-spider-ben-does-whatever-a-spider-ben This one was also good, the effects especially.
ShaRose49
Yeah I think characters were this comic’s greatest strength, which is the most important part of a story to me
AAAH that was great
Superjustinbros
Oh yes
Characters mean lots to me
Of you write them well and provide enough side-material to back them up
RebelVampire
yes that was definitely a fun scene. in general i like how the powers are visually depicted. i think it was a great choice to give them all diff colors schemes and aesthetics. it makes them stand out and you can always tell who is doing what.
i also love the random pigeon cameos.
these are the most photobombing pigeons in the land
Superjustinbros
Giving powers different colors is part of the fun, IMO
mathtans
Made it. You can probably guess at my favourite scene.
Superjustinbros
Glad I don't live in New York City then
Let me guess
It's loaded with puns
mathtans
It's where the trigonometry was used to knock the guy out. ^.-
Superjustinbros
o
mathtans
Also, Ben was using degrees, rather than radians, implying that it is coming from his own experiences rather than some meta-math in the environment.
'Course he uses the imperial system too, for whatever reason.
RebelVampire
that scene made me sad with jealousy because even when i was good at math, i always sucked at mental math. XD
mathtans
The sequence in Lee's head was pretty cool and creative. I suppose I felt I couldn't get as into it, I think because it just represented such an invasion of his privacy. (I liked how Lee addressed the whole "manipulation" thing later.)
Heh. I think that sort of mental math is beyond most people.
The visual depiction of the math-type powers as more cubic/angular was a nice choice too, I found.
Superjustinbros
>Rebel mentions math while Mathtans is in the chat(edited)
mathtans
Math's good stuff.
Superjustinbros
yes
It was my best school subject
till they stopped teaching it after tenth grade
mathtans
Actually, I kind of hate it when "doing mental math" is presented as some kind of superpower. I don't feel like that's the case here, because being able to judge distances, monetize portions of food, and hit precise estimations isn't the same thing as "I can multiply real fast". So that was good.
Superjustinbros
Yea
mathtans
Incidentally, how does magnetization powers give one the ability to X-Ray? Maybe I missed something in my science classes.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 2. Of all the characters, Lee seems to have the past that is most covered in mystery. What do you think happened in Lee’s past that caused him to have such a core of guilt? Was it related to Ana or was there something else going on? What even was Lee’s relationship with Ana? Why do you think Lee turned to illegal car theft activities, and what do you think caused him to go clean? Why do you think Lee is so desperate to patch things up with Sterling? How do you think Lee even knows Sterling in the first place? What do you think any of this has to do with the comic’s opening scene? Lastly, do you think Lee will manage to meet Sterling? If so, what do you think will happen?
mathtans
I think Lee and Sterling worked together in the past, maybe in a post-doc or something. There was that flashback sequence with the motorbike (I think that's what it was?) and stuff.
RebelVampire
arent mri machines basically just giant magnets?
i assume they took creative license based on that
mathtans
Ahh, maybe they are, right. Can't bring metal in and such.
RebelVampire
which actually explains why ben has that headache meltdown everytime hes near lee using his powers
cause like an mri machine, lee is pulling those metal shards
causing more damage
good job lee
lightlybow
Creator here, hey guys!! I'm so happy to see this discussion! To address the x-ray thing, there is a bit of creative license applied for sure. Lee can't literally see people's bones like in an x-ray, but he can sense metal objects and magnetic fields. I just had to find a way to visually represent that, and x-ray visuals felt like something that would be a really quick read for most of my audience.
And yeah Rebel, you're right on the money! Lee can easily move the little bits of metal around in Ben's brain if he isn't careful
mathtans
Right, the metal shard pulling thing I figured. (Also, I tend to agree with Lee that the guy should get that checked out! It cannot be good for the health.)
Oh, hihi creator! Must be early morning for you I guess.
Superjustinbros
Hello Lightlybow!
ShaRose49
Will Ben not have superpowers if the metal is removed?
RebelVampire
tbf going to the hospital might not do ben any good. cause if theyre in his brain thats already a very dangerous surgery
Superjustinbros
D:
ShaRose49
But will he get killed if he doesn’t remove the metal?!
mathtans
I feel like he might be able to calculate a way to deal with it mathematically. I mean, it was the substance on the metal that gave him the abilities, right? And it's supposed to be healing or something, so that's probably why he's still functional.
ShaRose49
Yikes wow but still
mathtans
Removing metal from head before wounds close seems prudent. shrugs
lightlybow
Ding ding ding! Ben's powers do come from the metal! Idk how many details you guys want...
Superjustinbros
Now that's why he can't do the surgery then, cause, well.
He loses the powers
ShaRose49
I think Lee worked with Sterling and they both love the same woman and that caused a rift between them. Maybe Lee tried to win Ana away from sterling or left him when he needed him because of Ana. This may be the biggest cause of his guilt since the thought of talking to Sterling is the only hope he has
But what if it’s unhealthy for Ben to have that metal??
mathtans
Ahh, interesting. (I mean, what do I know, right? ^.- ) Maybe Ben will learn that he doesn't need superpowers to be a cool guy. Particularly if he retains the fighting techniques.
RebelVampire
it is definitely unhealthy for ben to have metal in his head, especially around lee who can make it worse. XD i dont forsee ben wanting to give up powers tho
mathtans
Sha: I'm kind of with you, but I'm not sure Ana necessarily caused a rift directly... I feel more like maybe Lee decided he just couldn't work that close to them any more, and went looking for other work.
Illegal work, possibly.
Maybe he's got a bit of self loathing or something.
lightlybow
In terms of metal in the head/ injuries! There are reported cases of people living normal lives with shards of metal stuck in their brain matter. I was going off those when writing Ben, especially a case of someone who shot themselves with a nail gun and turned out to be just fine
Superjustinbros
That's an interesting piece of trivia
I have heard of people living with bullets lodged into their brain for years
as an example
mathtans
I've heard of that stuff, possibly even seen an XRay one time. Gives me the willies.
RebelVampire
yeah its definitely possible. but basically no mris ever which limits diagnostic tools ppl can use
which is not good cause mris are super powerful
im gonna go out on a limb and assume ana is dead or potentially in a coma. and that lee is (or assumes he was) the cause because whatever he used to contain the medicine that sterling had him built
and thats where his guilt is
mathtans
Lee's kind of my fave character, actually. Ben is too eager to treat everything as some kind of game, and Veda has no respect for boundaries.
RebelVampire
and that what happened between lee and sterling is they both feel responsible for what happened
and while lee wanted to move on, sterling wanted to obsess
mathtans
Rebel: If that's the case (interesting theory), maybe Lee just feels like if he'd stuck around (assuming it happened after he left), he'd have been able to do something.
RebelVampire
yeah.
alternatively
maybe ana is just sick in the hospital
and sterling is obsessing trying to save her
mathtans
Maybe he even has a theory for how to fix things but Sterling put a hit out on him and refuses to hear anything.
RebelVampire
and while lee should be supporting her he doesnt have the strength too
mathtans
Either way, if they end up talking, I feel like it would be near the climax.
Superjustinbros
Seconding Math
ShaRose49
I don’t think Ana is dead, otherwise this would be a lot like Miraculous Ladybug is recently
RebelVampire
i forsee that, but i also hope they dont wait till the climax. and that they hug and talk it out. and while they patch some things up theres stuff about the disease that fall to deaf ears on sterling's part(edited)
mathtans
I don't follow the reference, but okay.
ShaRose49
Sorry Miraculous is a silly romantic superhero cartoon that I love for some reason
RebelVampire
yeah i go back and forth on ana being dead. although i think we can at least assume something bad happened to her
mathtans
Just want to say, I thought putting in that scene of Sterling was a great move. I'd kind of pictured him having gone all "mad scientist", so the idea that he's kind of tortured and trying to fix things was an interesting window.
ShaRose49
Yeah I felt sorry for him he’s like an even more realistic Hawkmoth sorry I keep referencing Ml
ML
I love the realism in the drama for this comic
mathtans
Plot twist: Ana is actually one of the pigeons. Things went terribly wrong.
RebelVampire
yeah i really liked what that scene of sterling did
cause it knocked him down from enigmatic evil overlord to tortured human soul who is trying to fix something he doesnt know how to fix
lightlybow
OMG MATH
I'm crying
RebelVampire
ana is trying to tell lee shes a pigeon this whole time but lee just doesnt get it
lightlybow
all the pieces are falling together
mathtans
Ana tried to use the bird woman to get her message across. That also went badly.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. Much of the current events of the comic are now being driven by Veda who wants to save her sister. Do you believe all Veda really wants to do is save Dani, or is something else going on? Do you think Dani is being held against her will, or might there be a reason she doesn’t want to see Veda? How exactly do you think Veda became exposed enough to the medicine to gain her powers? Is Veda so aggressive with her powers because of desperation to save her sister, or do you think it’s telling about what Veda does for a living in some way? At the hotel, we also see Veda get sick for a moment. Do you think her sudden illness is revealing? What about her words as she looked in the mirror? What consequences do you think this “sickness” will have for the group as a whole?
Superjustinbros
Math does it again
But I do wonder if there is some kind of dark secret to the pigeons, and why they're everywhare
lightlybow
"That also went badly"
ShaRose49
I think Veda is trying to save her sister, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was another motive as well. I think she gets fatigued severely from using her powers too much
Superjustinbros
I mean, magic exists in this world so that wouldn't be far out of the ordinary
but back onto the subject
RebelVampire
on a tangent i liked lee's convo with the old lady because it was so utterly ridiculous on so many levels. like who approaches some old lady on the bench and assumes she knows a lot about pigeons just cause shes showing them mild affection.
ShaRose49
Wait magic?! I missed that
Yeah but he was desperate lol
junebugjo
More like superpowers
Superjustinbros
As in, the en mase of pidgeons being a result somehow of everyone having powers
ShaRose49
Yeah I don’t think this was magic I didn’t get that at all just superhero sci-fi
Superjustinbros
lol
ShaRose49
Magic and sci-fi together can annoy me sometimes I just love my scifi
RebelVampire
i do think veda is trying to save her sister. but part of me wonders if its not just that her powers exhaust her. what if veda has the disease too and thats actually why she was exposed to the medicine? that is my out there theory
ShaRose49
Oh yeah....
That could be it
I wonder if people get the disease if they get the powers or if the powers don’t actually cure you
RebelVampire
oh man thatd be ironically sad. that the cure comes with the disease
mathtans
Sorry, in and out as the little one makes a fuss. I wonder if Veda's trying to save her sister more for herself than for her sister's sake. Like, she feels guilty over letting her go in the first place. (And what other doctor is she going to take her sister to if they get out? I mean really.)
RebelVampire
yeah i thought that too
about where would veda even take her
lightlybow
Yeah there aren't really any other doctors who can solve her problems but she's desperate
ShaRose49
Yeah Math could be right. (I’m doing Laundry right now lol) good luck with your little one!
RebelVampire
any other doctor is probably gonna tell her theres nothing they can do but make her comfortable and manage the symtoms
and give a death time estimate
lightlybow
*curently
*CURRENTLY DANGIT
Superjustinbros
Guess doctors aren't common in this universe or soemthing
junebugjo
Well doctors who can cure the disease aren’t
RebelVampire
well doctors who can cure this specific disease, yes XD
lightlybow
Junebug! Hello!
junebugjo
Hey!!!
RebelVampire
to answer another question on the list, i think dani's imprisonment is a bit of both. that sterling 100% is holding her but that even if veda came dani would tell her to go away for some reason. maybe to protect veda...or maybe veda and her had a fight just like lee and sterling had a fight. and later on that fight is something lee and veda can bond over
junebugjo
Certainly the fact that her ailment can’t easily be cured by someone else is a motivation for Dani to stay with Sterling
mathtans
Or maybe Dani also has mind powers and can tell that Veda's not being real sincere or something.
Superjustinbros
Hello Junebug~
lightlybow
Something the future script will touch on is whether the Cure is more important than the Person. If their physical health should be prized over their emotional well-being
RebelVampire
that sounds deep
ShaRose49
Hmm. I don’t know I wonder if Lee and Veda will start to like each other. Probably not but they do have some things in common
junebugjo
I really want them to(edited)
ShaRose49
What good is emotional well-being if you’re sick as a dog? You need a combination of both I guess
junebugjo
I desperately need them to be begrudging friends / partners in crime
ShaRose49
Haha
mathtans
He is a chick magnet. (That was a good line.)
Superjustinbros
Good one Math
RebelVampire
i feel like before lee and veda can get along they need to have a huge fight. like get all their reservations an stuff out in the open air. cause at the moment the entire relationship is kind of soured by veda's emotional blackmail
lightlybow
Yeah as it stands there's not much room for "getting along"
Superjustinbros
Yeah, that there's pretty twisted
junebugjo
I’m just a big sucker for characters like Veda esp if she goes through some good ol character development
lightlybow
wink wonk
RebelVampire
i think of the characters veda is the most likely who's gonna grow too. cause right now shes toeing that bad guy line a bit too hard
QUESTION 4. All these super powers are caused by one thing: Sterling and his magical Anacride medicine. Why do you think Sterling developed this medicine in the first place? Does it have something to do with Ana given the number of times she’s shown when talking about the disease it cures? What is going on with Sterling currently given he refuses to let families see those in his treatment program? Are there some sort of detrimental side effects he can’t control, or is something else afoot? Do you believe he can fix everything, or are the powers and other side effects now permanent? Also, what do you think happened to him that landed him in the hospital during one flashback? Finally, what does all this mean for Ben given that he has metal dangerously embedded in his head? Are Ben’s powers really caused by a brief exposure to the medicine, and will this journey change him in some way?
Superjustinbros
Character development makes the world go round
junebugjo
Ana could have the disease
Also is the uh medicine named after her
I feel like he could be desperate to find her a permanent and less detrimental cure so he goes through others not caring what happens to them so he can save Ana ?
RebelVampire
omg
i never connected ana's name was in the word anacride
junebugjo
I just now saw it capitalized and was like ???? Maybe ????
lightlybow
DING DING DING
junebugjo
Do I win a prize
Lol
lightlybow
Yes you get a pigeon. Here
junebugjo
I will take good care of him
Superjustinbros
Aww
RebelVampire
thatd be a sad approach is sterling was using everyone else to test the medicine before testing it on ana, assuming shes a victim. but now im wondering if maybe she isnt a victim. maybe she helped make the medicine but she had a falling out with sterling and now sterling hopes that if he makes the medicine succeed ana will love him again
Superjustinbros
Maybe
junebugjo
I feel like Ana has some dark side to her
mathtans
Okay, back, mostly. Oh, good call on the naming! Didn't register that.
junebugjo
Like she at least a little bit fudges the lines when it comes to pharmaceutical experimentation but wouldn’t go as far as sterling would idk
mathtans
Remember there was that flashback scene where Ana was actually helping Sterling due to his heart problem or whatever. I think maybe SHE developed the medicine, and Sterling's trying to perfect it for her.
So I guess similar to the "love me again" idea.
Except maybe it's just in her memory.
'You will be the last victim of this disease'...
RebelVampire
well tbf, the only viewpoints weve had of ana are those from ppl who love her in some capacity. so to them ana is probably an angel. so her having a dark side would not surprise me at all cause nobody is perfect an all that jazz
and yeah i considered that too, math. that this could just be a "last victim of the disease" sort of thing
mathtans
Ana is actually an NPC in the story.
She hands out the quests.
As a pigeon.
RebelVampire
its a good thing they have ben. he will figure out you have to accept the pigeon quests in order to progress the story
Superjustinbros
I shall do that o_ o\
Give me all them challenges
lightlybow
The clues were there all along. There she is, pigeon # 62
mathtans
Yeah, some of the "deluded Ben" stuff when Lee first found him was amusing. I'm glad it didn't become an overlong gag though.
lightlybow
http://pigeoncomic.com/post/162180122762/the-horror
Superjustinbros
For a sec I thought those were bats
mathtans
Speaking of amusing things - I liked some of the little background naming things. Like the diner that had been crossed out and it's like "Al's now" or whatever. Or the donut box saying to drink juice.
lightlybow
I'm so happy you noticed
mathtans
My favourite was the self defence book. "This convenient book is going to show you how not to get punched in the face".
Superjustinbros
The best kind of book
lightlybow
And in Ben's apartment there's a statue of Han Solo with the words "_ shot first" and the name is covered
mathtans
I think it also had a picture of the Matrix in it or something.
junebugjo
THATS MY FAVE
the Han statue
mathtans
Ahh, I interpreted that as "Han" (the statue) "shot first".
lightlybow
Oh I see!
mathtans
Probably why Ben's roommate moved out. A Star Wars disagreement.
lightlybow
Anyway I'm glad you guys enjoy the stupid jokes in the flavor text
junebugjo
I almost walked out of watching a new hope bc my friends all said exactly the opposite of who I think shot first
Superjustinbros
Always fun when the author sneaks in background gags/jokes
lightlybow
OMG
mathtans
I wonder what's in the van. Like, is it more of the drug? Could they actually analyze it before they do the run? (Though, they probably don't have time for that.)
RebelVampire
i assumed it was more of the drug
although
that begs the question of how its made
cause youd think sterling would make the drug in his lab
mathtans
Maybe he outsources.
junebugjo
Maybe ingredience
mathtans
Right, just gotta mix it with fructose.
lightlybow
The drug needs to go through a special process of pressurization and maturation before it's viable... so Sterling designs the drug but no one knows if it will work for a few weeks until they test it
mathtans
It's important to be mature about such things.
lightlybow
pun game on point
mathtans
Oh, nice detail about Lee's card being demagnetized btw. Hadn't occurred to me.
Poor guy.
lightlybow
In that pigeon comic it's implied that he keeps breaking watches too. It's really inconvenient!
Superjustinbros
Well, I guess it's almsot the end
RebelVampire
having magnetic powers sounds like all kinds of trouble. cant take him camping cause hell throw off the compasses. although you could use him to hold metal screws for you without them getting lost
mathtans
Right! I remember noticing that. Guess it does make it easier to fall off the grid.
Superjustinbros
In that case cya, and thanks for the great reads, @lightlybow
It was great metting ya.
mathtans
I wonder if Ben will compare him to Magneto.
junebugjo
He should
ShaRose49
I wonder what Dina!s gonna be like she looks like she could be a sweet but tortured soul
lightlybow
Great meeting you too @Superjustinbros !!
ShaRose49
He already did compare Lee to Magneto!
I remember he said “You totally Magnetoed him”
mathtans
I am clearly not paying enough attention. Must have read it as magnetized. It makes sense given his Marvel references.
lightlybow
Omg rebel I just imagined Veda sticking screws to Lee's face like "Here, hold this"
ShaRose49
Omgosh
mathtans
I could see that.
Anyway, definitely pulling for Lee. Guy can't seem to catch a break. Hope his mental demons are appeased.
lightlybow
Me too, buddy. Me too
RebelVampire
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