#but for byler…anything lmao
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I really like fictional couples that actually enjoy spending time with each other. It seems like such a simple, mundane thing. It feels like such a basic thing, but it’s something that I actually don’t see that often. insp. (x)
#byler#miwi#mike wheeler#will byers#stranger things#this post is dedicated to my multi-fandom otp soulmate Bre / magentamee#but also:#can I just say that gif making is an art I need to master#because photoshop and I…we are not friends#but for byler…anything lmao#this QUOTE tho#the whole thing is such a perfect commentary on this love triangle tbh#I’m going to master gifs and do the whole thing I promise lmao#the me tag#my gifs#xoxo stranger girl
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“Stranger Things will still be a good show even if Byler isn’t endga”—let me stop you right there bc if anything other than Byler endgame happens then Stranger Things will have a worse final season than Game of Thrones and deserves to be the laughingstock of the internet forever and deserves to be shat on forever.
#salt#byler salt#aimed at milkvans and ga#do y’all just#eat whatever half-assed#garbage is thrown your way?#I will be eating a three course meal#with dessert#that’s what Byler is lmao#the satisfying resolution of the buildup#anything less is blehhhhhhh#byler#mike wheeler#will byers#byler is endgame#mike wheeler is a boykisser#mike wheeler is in love with will byers#mike wheeler is not straight#mike wheeler is gay#byler brainrot#st5#st5 spoilers#st5 production#stranger things#byler nation#byler tumblr
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yes i'm rooting for m*leven breakup because byler is neat but mostly? i'm rooting for m*leven breakup for the sake of el and mike.
to me, their romance was always a puppy love born out of a combination of social pressures, naïve curiosity, and a lack of true understanding regarding intimacy and romantic love and what it really is. it was real in that they do truly, deeply care about each other and they are close friends, maybe even shared an attraction, but a maturing romance is so much more than that. they've grown up and out of being boyfriend/girlfriend, and that's okay! i think television/film needs to show more often that most of us don't have definite "soulmates" or first childhood loves that we spend our whole lives with. it doesn't mean these relationships meant nothing and didn't impact us, it just means they've run their course and that something else is in the cards, and this is part of life!
i've always felt el was at her best and most confident self when broken up with mike, discovering who she was and what she liked alongside another girl her age instead of just relying on mike for mentorship on how to live in the real world. she deserves more of an opportunity to find herself, her autonomy, and her independence, and to love who she is, and she's made it clear she's felt insecure in the relationship with mike because she isn't being loved and understood the way she wants, needs, and deserves from someone who is her partner.
also, it's okay if mike doesn't love her in "the way he should". he is not obligated to love her romantically and stay in a relationship with her just because she's a girl, because she "needed someone", or because he cares about her a lot. he shouldn't be pressured into a romance if it's not truly coming from his heart. he deserves freedom to find out and honour who he is, too, instead of just staying in his non-functional first relationship — one he got into as a child, essentially — and defining himself that way because it's what's expected when a boy and a girl are close. he loves her in some way, yes, but it's okay if he doesn't feel comfortable or secure being her boyfriend anymore, for whatever reason that is. he's felt insecure too, and that's valid and it matters.
they are their own people and are steadily growing and changing every day. they need time to figure out who those people are, and it's become clear (at least in my opinion) that those people aren't meant to be a couple at this stage.
they deserve freedom. they deserve to grow up and be authentic to themselves and not feel like they need to lie for the sake of a relationship. they deserve to move on from this version of their relationship that isn't making them happy and rekindle the best part of their bond: their strong, beautiful friendship. they don't have to be a couple if it doesn't make them stronger and better and happier people.
i think it would be healthy and wonderful for a show, especially one consumed frequently by young adults, to show a relationship starting, progressing, and ending on good terms in this way. sometimes things don't work out, and that is okay.
#eve text#elmike#stranger things#byler#only tagging byler because i feel like yall will like this take lol#tagging tagging tagging WHAT ARE EVERYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS#god i can't believe i'm making a post about stranger things. this feels like poking a bear#i'm not particularly anti m*leven but like... they'd have to do something pretty special at this point for me to feel like it's viable#i'm seeing the bts of s5 and it's got me Having Thoughts#elmike friendship is something i am so passionate about#even before i ever liked byler (didn't ship at all until s4 even though i knew it was a thing before) i've felt this way about elmike#i always believed they were close friends at heart and needed to break up#the romance part of them felt very distinctly young and very much “he was a boy she was a girl” to me#and it hasn't deepened into anything more mature and i don't see how it could based on the current state of the writing...#the fact that lumax exists — a young relationship that is actively maturing and is healthy — makes that clear to me#and the “love confession” in s4 and how disingenuous and miserable it felt was just the nail in the coffin#also the fact that will (who is IN LOVE with mike) was instrumental in making it happen? ... uh... okay... interesting choice…#fucked up and reductive if they make it another queer unrequited love sacrifice for the sake of pushing the heterosexual agenda YUCK#so i really hope the speculation about a m*leven breakup is real!! i think it just makes sense for their characters but who knows#i don't believe in the notion of love at first sight or one true love and i think the writers don't too???#love to me is an accumulation of experiences and we inevitably choose it at some point rather than fall into it... but idk#tv is so fixated on keeping couples together... sometimes it's just not reality guys especially with young people... LET IT GO...#like i said though i'm not 100% sold that they're going to give up their “golden couple” LMAO#stranger things hasn't historically subverted too many tropes if i'm being honest#anyway i seriously need this season to come out quickly... i'm so bored and getting my master's is crushing my soul#i need frivolity#ALSO btw i won't respond to hateful messages about this so please don't bother. it's not that serious. this is a netflix show
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anyways. i hope byler makes out until they cant breathe n have to pull away gasping for air in s5
#byler#enough with portraying queer couples as chaste n innocent#like yes ok i do want them to have like. at least one slow sweet kiss too but like#if they arent grasping at each others clothes to pull them closer together desperate just to kiss and hold and touch like they've never-#- been able to before then whats the fucking point.#this isnt to say i want a sex scene or anything. honestly i dont care either way if we get one. but i want them to make out sloppy#like sorry you're telling me theyve been pining over each other for years and they're jsut gonna settle for soft gentle pecks???#nah. i dont buy it lmao
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oh my god guys why the fuck would they kill karen lmao
#there is an ART to killing characters and she would not make the cut#for a final season especially a killed character has to be carefully crafted ok#a killed character in the first season often triggers the whole rest of the plot. a killed character in the final season could finish it.#so the character who dies will probably have a big role in saving them AND GUYS SHE DOESNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE UPSIDE DOWN#WHY WOULD IT BE HER LMAO#it also has to be impactful on the character & audience but not TOO much on the characters because we wont see the aftermath of their death#which is why jonathan wont die bc will is the main character and his trauma is literally the whole reason for the show#so if jonathan died wills character arc wouldnt be complete#also why joyce and mike cant die#and karen dying is just stupid bc like i said she doesnt know anything but also the audience wouldnt really care if she died#you want the death of a character to make the audience FEEL SOMETHING#she had what 10 lines in s4?? be fr#‘eden thats just wishful thinking’ oh no its not….#because according to everything i just said one of the characters that makes the most sense to kill....#is steve#byler#stranger things
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we secured byler in the top four and so many ppl are giving up now................... can't relate i would bite kill lie and cheat for byler i'm their top shooter in these e-streets and i will NAWT lose to a redditor ever in my entire life i Refuse 🫡
#personally i love competing and voting and being a sore winner#it's what cheater cheater pumpkin eater will byers would want and who am i to refuse him anything ever?#they're also 100% going to vote byler now so . we're gonna lose if ppl really do stop voting lmao
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i just think that if you truly believe barely any bylers dislike/vilify el then you’re just turning a blind eye and being naive on purpose
#whatever helps you sleep at night i guess idk#it’s not outright hate it’s this thinly veiled effort to make her look bad all the time and then you’re like oh but i love her sooo much i#swear ☹️☹️☹️ like sure lmao#and then when someone posts something about how female characters are treated by mlm stans and bylers are like omg not us though :) like no#actually we were most definitely explicitly including you in there hope this helps#insert alfred’s our fandom doesn’t have that typical female character hate problem post#and then on the rare occasion someone does talk about this then here come the mike stans like well actually my poor babygirl mike is the one#who gets unfairly hated on all the time not her :( like oh brother here you guys go a true gift for making anything and everything about him#em.txt
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"I can see will appreciating all types of music genres" well I cannot. peace and love<3
#like sorry I just think he mostly listens to rock some people literally just listen to one genre and that's FINE oh my lord#he would not be pretentious about it I'm not saying that I am sure that when el turns the madonna on he does not bitch or make fun of her#that doesn't mean he's listening to it on his own though lmao. that doesn't mean it's his preferred music choice#you know who I DO think would like a lot of different music genres? el. and I have actual reasons for this#I'm not just saying shit for the sake of saying shit#like she probably wasn't exposed to music for the first 13 years of her life! I bet she loves all sorts of stuff bc it's all so unique!#I bet her favorite songs and artists are based more in sentimental value then anything else#like she likes madonna bc she listens to that with max. she likes bowie bc it's what her brothers introduced to her#she likes riot grrrrl/punk bc of kali y'know?#anyway. in summary. will literally does not have to listen to pop or whatever why would he#like do what you want with mike he canonically sang along to corey hart. but will?#anyway that's how I know y'all are just projecting bc y'all want your fave to have the same music taste as you#and like it's a harmless headcanon it doesn't matter I know. but it is a pet peeve yeah I don't see why will can't just like rock#AGAIN. NOT PRETENTIOUS. HE THINKS OTHER GENRES ARE FINE THEY'RE JUST NOT HIS THING#stranger things#will byers#byler
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thinking abt cannibyler/ canniwill again (.. for no particular rsn<3) n the relationship will would have w eating ppl once he eventually starts, if we're coming from a "came back wrong" perspective. yk I thought at first "ok maybe its exclusively ppl who're not so great ppl/ maybe its a hannibal type think w rude ppl n mike goes "might as well bc they were rude to will, right?"" but there's smthing special abt will having a good relationship, a great, special one even, w another person n eventually eating them anyway. "bc he can't help himself??" well sure in a way, but maybe bc it makes him hungry in a way cruel ppl dont, the urge to consume someone who grows increasingly important to him bc cant love be more powerful then hating someone, esp for will byers himself?
...ill see myself out
#freak post incoming but its for halloween so I think I can get away w it LMAO#byler#will byers#this isn't for today's theme or anything rlly I was just thinking again#preparing to get booed off the stage n dragged thru the streets like a jester<3
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i think stancy and byler have more in common than some bylers that hate stancy want to admit
#i’m not saying their identical or anything. but some of the things that bylers complain about… like your ship isn’t all that different.#most ships are similar in some way because there’s only a limited amount of ways you can depict ships lmao#stancy#byler#stranger things#my post
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Listen. If they wanted me to believe in mlvn they would have had Vecna take Mike from El. They would have her say “it you touch him again, I will kill you, again” before giving them a one-on-one romantic reunion where Mike did something like parallel being saved from the quarry + said “you saved me—you’re not the monster, not to me. I love you.” They would have had him encourage her to her face in a way she could respond to—before she won, or at the very least managed to save him from death the way she saved Max.
Funny how nothing like that happened tho. Instead Mike confessed, the world broke in half, Murray, Steve and Nancy delivered the final blows while El just stood there as Vecna faded away…and then this?
FOLLOWED BY THIS?
I’ve spent an entire year giving y’all the deeper context for the storyline and all it’s subtleties but…lmao this was more than enough on its own, and I haven’t even touched 99.9% of byler, or the return of “there’s more to life than stupid boys” with Max.
But…of course it’s me whose delusional, right? 🙃
#anti mlvn#byler#I’m so tired y’all like lmao#you don’t need a film degree or anything more than baseline common sense for this???? where’s the confusion LMAO#mike wheeler#will byers#el hopper#st commentary#stranger things
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chapter 20 of the strawberries are dying, my byler 1930s au, is now up!
Mike has always hated doing things he didn’t want to do, even if said things were necessary in order for him to develop into a normal human being. This was maybe why his parents, particularly his father, had very obviously disliked him more than their other kids when he was growing up—he was stubborn. Unmoving. Unwilling to meet in the middle with most things he didn’t like. “Compromise” was not really a word occupying his vocabulary. He saw the world in black and white for a long time, refusing to even toe into a gray area. Was this a bad thing? Probably. Of course, he’d gotten better with it all since he’d met Will, but he still kind of saw the world like that on occasion.
#fucking. christ. okay. hope u like it#every bone in my body cracked the second i lied down after posting this lmao#i have. hm. a chapter and a half left to write i think? but ch23 is gonna be more of an epilogue than anything else probably#woo. this is insane. okay.#after this fic is done it's onto my bylerween fic WOOOOO but it's gonna be sad for sure :(( this fic is my baby#stranger things#byler#mike wheeler#will byers#byler fics#tsad#📝#st.txt
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Could someone pls care to explain why tf was Will's lego that he stuck up his nose named Larry, such as the corrupt mayor from s3 that had his nose broken by Hopper???
Also:
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(Aaalso, is there mayyybe something about Hopper's watch here? The 01 or the 12??)
#i'm confused lmao#the duffer bros are making me so paranoid jezz they're so unhinged i don't believe anything is a coincidence#WHY THE SAME NAME#THE NOSE#THE FINGER#byler#<<<target audience#will byers#will byers theory#stranger things#stranger things theory#will byers parallels#stranger things parallels#stranger things s3#stranger things set design#set design
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Time to pretend homework doesn’t exist and work on my WIP and give my blorbos depression too!
See y’all on the other side of this chapter. 🫡
#for legal reasons this is a joke#mostly.#my mental health has been shit today. so.#sorry to TOG in advance#and sorry to Riv and Mal before I post anything lmao#byler#✨traitors of gold ✨#traitors of gold byler AU#will byers#mike wheeler#willel#twelvegate
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this is my impression of a byler:
“narratively speaking…”
#im obviously a byler this isnt a hate post but i just find it kinda funny#cuz like…. yeah duh were talking about a narrative story how else would we be speaking#i guess if it was something about like the set design or practical effects you could say ‘aesthetically speaking’#but for anything about byler like yes i know youre talking about the narrative#like if you were analyzing the words to a song you wouldnt say ‘lyrically speaking’ lmao#same energy as when everyone was saying ‘global pandemic’ as if the word ‘pandemic’ does not already mean global#byler
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kicking my feet giggling twirling my hair over a small detail that means absolutely nothing
#this is a joke btw#like i'm joking#I can't emphasize enough that I'm joking#So don't come to me calling me delusional or telling me it doesn't mean anything because I already know lmao.#I'm just being silly#byler
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