#but also radiostatic qpr

[squeezetheduck]

Ok just hear me out, Vox singing this to Alastor before he disappeared for 7 years.

[velvet-games]

reading A Trace of Notoriety by rymyanna on ao3 (great fic btw highly recommend) and there's a scene where alastor learns how to charge a phone just to plug in angel's while he's asleep

[snowyh2o]

A scene from chapter 8 of The Answer Is Yes by generalzero on Ao3

[notherpuppet]

Is there any particular reason you use ship names with qpr relationships? (Like using a / or radioapple for examples) It makes it a little hard to tell what's meant to be romantic and platonic in fandoms sometimes, no shame for using them obvi and not pushing you to change your tagging or anything. Just wondering

Well the QPR I'm depicting is pretty affectionate (I mean mostly just xo's, not xxx hahaha) so even if it's NOT romantic, it probably may still be perceived as a ship between characters. I'm purposefully displaying a bond that is affectionate and loving, albeit platonic. So I still consider it a ship and that's why I tag it as such.

So with QPRs like radioapple, radiorose, almimzy, radiostatic, etc. etc. (alastor ships pretty much lol) I just figure that if people don't like to see characters in this ship, they're able to just block the tag. There are ships that I don't particularly like, but I just scroll away. It doesn't really bother me, but yknow; we get to cater a lot of our own social media experiences. There's the block and mute options for a reason.

As for ascertaining whether a ship art is QPR or not, I think someone can inquire or just do a little more legwork to figure that out themselves tbh. Some things may not have been written to be QPR, but may fit inside that idea for someone engaging in the artwork/fanfic. Some things may be intentionally written to be QPR and not coincide with a fan's taste or personal ideas. For example, someone may depict a QPR that includes sex. These are valid QPR experiences. On the flip side, someone may not be depicting a QPR and they include nothing explicit or affectionate, but it still fits into someone else's idea of what a QPR can look like. It's not black and white. There is nuance.

We should individually do the work of assessing if a fanart is something that we appreciate or not. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL AN ARTIST IF YOU DON'T LIKE HOW THEY DO SOMETHING BTW. Just saying. Pretty RUDE ACTUALLY so yknow I would advocate for NOT doing that. I also don't think we need to put it on the artists to define exactly what they're depicting, since it can be a pretty difficult relationship to pin down. Affection and friendship can look very different for lots of people. And I don't think it's necessary for an artist or writer to spell out their intentions for us. Art is a means to express oneself and to have fun. If we choose to engage in an artwork, then we can also interpret it and come to conclusions of our own.

TLDR; I'm gonna go ahead and tag QPRs as their fandom ship names and I think it's up to us as users to cater social media to our tastes individually.

[celtrist]

Let's make our own fate

Needed practice with Alastor's colors before going at it with the wip piece I have (which ironically enough is another red string of fate piece). But while I do oh so enjoy Alastor being an independent mammal who doesn't need no mate, I 100% still have fun shipping with him myself from time to time. And this ship is probably my favorite with him (and y'know what, you can take this as a QPR thing or romance thing, why not?)! And, might I add, severely underrated when it has elements of radiobelle, radioapple, and radiostatic (in terms of colors at least) wrapped up together- HOW ARE PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THIS SHIP HELLO???

Joking aside, Emily and Alastor are in a weird place for me where I like them in this ship dynamic (QPR or romantic), but I also like them in a dynamic similar to what Alastor and Charlie have if you're going the mentor-protege route or parent-child route. Which is a very strange to like those two very opposing dynamics (primarily the lovey dovey and parent-child aspects because y'know... )

I don't imagine these two will really interact much in canon, but I really would love to see how their interactions would go down and if they'd be at all different from how Charlie and Alastor interact (seeing as Emily and Charlie are a wee bit similar y'know?)

[elsa-fogen]

You don't really strike me as one who's much for ships, more just cool and fun character dynamics (like qpr RadioRose)

So I'm a little curious over what ships you actually do like

Also curious over your thoughts on one-sided RadioStatic?

I'm glad that you got my vibe right lol

I had really few OTPs which i shipped absolutely myself and not because i wanted to support my friends, and hazbin has none of them

Charlie and Vaggie are cute but for me they're really dull. I mean, maybe in next seasons their relationships will be explored more, but i really would love to see how they came to what they have now! For now they're just generic couple with no interesting dynamics, at least for me

OH OH OH THERE'S ONE SHIP I LIKE!!! Adam and Lute. And it's a total shame i haven't drawn anything with them! Thir dynamic is really fun, and I'M 100% CONVINCED THAT THEIR FEELINGS FOR EACH OTHER WERE REAL. Like. Look at Adam, he's dying, but he puts on a brave face just for her. Lute is CRYING because of his death! God i want Adam to reappear as a sinner and then him meeting with Lute. I want a villain song for Lute. I want to see her planning revenge OHH AM I WEAK FOR REVENGE PLOTS OHH. I WANT TO SEE HOW HER WORLD IS FALLING APART WHEN SHE SEES SINNER ADAM! I want her to question her loyalty. I want to see her conflict with herself. Damn they are such a cool couple. I love them.

But i guess my love for them is too overshadowed by my love for Alastor. Oh Alastor. He relly makes me smile.

So, one-sided radiostatic. Or radiosilence, i saw that name and i liked it.

Honestly it's just hillarious. I really love that joke that Vox confessed his feelings to Alastor and it was the readon why he disappeared for 7 years LIKE LMAO, BRO IS SO ACE THAT HE WOULD RATHER DIE. I like seeing jokes about Vox being obsessed with Alastor and Alastor who couldn't care less. Bonus points if Alastor DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS IS TOP COMEDY.

[liulith]

Why Vox’ one-sided psychosexual obsession with Alastor is PERFECT for a #radiostatic QPR

This fanwork is an edited version of a comment I wrote for a fic from the 666: Live on Air! Series by @prince-liest You don’t need to know the fic to understand it, though! Just keep in mind that those are headcanons based on a hypothetical established relationship between Alastor and Vox, in which Vox’s obsession for Alastor has changed flavors from hatred to love, and Alastor doesn’t return his feelings but finds his pathetic obsession entertaining, flattering and somewhat cute. (Also, this doesn’t address the past friendship (?) between them that is being hinted at by the photo in S1 finale, since we have zero context for that at the moment)

Why Vox is Like That

My headcanon is that Vox has always been the type to strive for power and recognition, always reaching for the top of the heap. The problem is that he’s too good at it.

Once he gets into whatever position of power he wanted, he gets bored because what he truly likes is fighting his way to the top. Whatever comes after can be enjoyable but it never compares to the “fight” itself – and thus Vox is always left unsatisfied, setting new goals to become even more powerful because *surely*, that’s what will finally bring him the sense of fulfillment he wants.

(We can kinda see it in his introduction. The man looks bored to tears before Alastor waltzes back into his life and turns him into a manic mess! Here’s a tumblr post about it)

This is precisely why I think Hell gave Vox hypnosis powers: the same reason it gave Alastor the body of a prey animal. It’s torture! With those powers, Vox can get almost anything he wants and he hates it. On Earth, people were a challenge; not everyone can be bought, and he had to rely on his skills.

Sure, he still has those skills in Hell; but in Hell, where every sinner is a potential enemy and the exorcists come down once a year, power is key to his survival and he has to take any victory he can get; meaning, he’ll never be able to *not* use his hypnosis powers, not as long as he wants to survive, even if that makes the fight to the top lose its appeal.

[Insert non-existent tangent on how Val not being affected by the hypnosis – because he’s half blind – is a key factor in Vox’ attraction to him]

Why Vox can’t NOT be obsessed with Alastor:

Alastor is powerful enough to resist his mind-control powers. Alastor can’t be swayed by Vox’ influence, his connections, his power, his money. In short, he’s a challenge. Vox needs to earn his attention, needs to work for it.

Thankfully for him, there *is* something Alastor is interested in: his genuine, unguarded, desperate self: the one that has a full manic episode/mental breakdown when he learns Alastor is back in town. The side of him he always hides under layers and layers of confidence, bravado and corporate talk!

And, deep down, that desperate side of him is exactly why he strives for power so hard in the first place. This man is full of insecurities and he NEEDS to be the biggest fish (shark) in the tank.

This means that Alastor is the embodiment of his deepest fears! He sees through all his bullshit, makes him lose all his composure, and is able to destroy him in EVERY WAY that matters. And yet, he doesn’t. Because, he tolerates (likes) him (in the context of this AU) just as he is, patheticness and all :3  I think there’s something very liberating about that.

Plus, Vox is a simp. He’s a manic sado-masochist who gets off on seeing Alastor humiliated and being humiliated himself, he wants Alastor helpless under his claws, wants Alastor to step on him and tear his heart out if that’s the only way Alastor would touch him, wants to have a cutesy dance-off with and make him laugh until his face hurts.

Oh Vox, we’re really in it now

He’s obsessed with Alastor and wants him in any way he can have him – and I think he’d be ready to give himself over to Alastor in any way Alastor wants to have him as well, because as long as it means Alastor wants something *from him*, it’s worth it. Even if it destroys him.

So, in a context where he has experienced Alastor being on friendly terms with him, where Alastor he has seen Alastor’s genuinely smiling at him and handing him the smallest crumb of affection, there’s just no turning back. Yes, he *could* still get off on seeing Alastor hurt because he’s deranged like that, but he doesn’t want it anymore.

or, well. the vicious, demonic part of him does still want to hurt him, but not exactly for the same reasons as before. It’s more of his caged beast of a heart wanting to make its predator pay for ruining it, in a desperate attempt to reduce his pain (at Alastor’s perceived “indifference”), to force Alastor to SEE him (not that he can. Lol).

BUT! he doesn’t need to do that now! Not when there is so much he would have to give up! So many other emotions, reactions he can get out of Alastor, knowing that HE did that!! To Alastor!! Him!! He cares so, so much. He’s the biggest shark in the tank but Alastor is the water around him. I suck at metaphors.

FML: Alastor edition

Hell turned Alastor into a prey animal because he has always felt like one. I think that at his core, he’s never going to get rid of his instinctual mistrust of others and fear of having any exposed vulnerability turned against him, because it’s part of a defense mechanism he developed since childhood.

He grew in Louisiana as a mixed-race* boy (*it's a bit more complicated than that since "Louisiana Creole" is not a racial designation but let's say Alastor is 100% mixed-race with a POC mom in this context), in an era of widespread lynching and racial segregation, at a time where millions of Black Americans migrated to the North because of the horrible socio-economic conditions of the South. Hell, he was alive during the great Mississippi flood of 1927 – the most destructive river flood of the entire history of the US – and he SAW the government refuse to prioritize the safety of the POC who were 75% of the population (literally; “The refugee camps also dealt with extreme racial inequality, as supplies and means of evacuation after flooding were given strictly to white citizens, with Blacks receiving only leftovers. African Americans also did not receive supplies without providing the name of their white employer or voucher from a white person. In order to fully exploit black labor, Blacks were frequently forced to work against their will, and were not permitted to leave the camps.”)

We don’t know if he was white-passing or visibly mixed, or if his white dad was in the picture, but since he only mentions his mother in canon I’m gonna run with the idea that she raised him alone. He seems to have had a positive relationship with her, which may have impacted his relationships with women in general. However, as a Creole woman, his mom couldn’t guarantee his safety in a society that was rigged against her.

So, he grew up learning the world was out to get him, that no one had his back, and that *performance* was key to his continued safety and survival. By performance, I mean learning how to act around white people to appear non-threatening/avoid being reduced to his ancestry/manage to “pass” well enough. But passing too well would also exclude him from his own community, as mixed people often are.

He also learned that despite his best efforts, no matter how competent he could become, some things would always be unfairly inaccessible to him for reasons outside of his control, and he couldn’t stand for it. The quiet rage, the humiliation, he took out on people by becoming a serial killer: permanently excluding “unworthy” people from society, and consuming them to assert his absolute dominance over them.

FML: Alastor edition. Why he would like Vox:

As the Radio Demon, Alastor has more power than he ever craved in his human life. He’s also vulnerable to the exorcists (Adam), to higher demonic powers (Lucifer, etc.) and was put on a leash by a mysterious character (Lilith? Eve? Roo?).

He’s more desperate for control than ever. It’s not that hard in his daily life, since most people (besides Husk and..? idk) don’t know he made a deal, and he can act like his usual confident self. However, it’s a control that is not unconditional, never absolute nor freely given.

And Vox? He’s hopelessly devoted to Alastor. Alastor has the upper hand on him in terms of raw power, but he also has the absolute psychological and emotional upper hand here. Vox is putting his heart and everything he has on the line in a way Alastor would never do in his worst nightmares. Vox is probably the only person who ever *let* Alastor have this much power over them, and Alastor loves to see it.

This, in turn, makes Alastor more willing to show his more vulnerable side, in a way he would never do if he were also in love with Vox imo. Because Vox is “only Vox” to him, and losing Vox wouldn’t destroy him the way it would if he returned Vox’ feelings, he’s paradoxically more likely to get closer to him. Being in love with Vox would make him too vulnerable and I honestly think that if he became that desperately attached, he would kill him in a fit of panicked narcissistic self-preservatory rage, to prove he’s stronger than this. He’d be too scared to have his feelings taken advantage of, and his brained is wired to kill anything that gets in his way.

Having Vox as a friend, however, is just perfect for him! Just the right amount of closeness and connection that enables him to give him his trust, without fearing he’s being blinded by feelings outside of his control. And knowing that Vox wants him *that* desperately but accepts Alastor’s inability and unwillingness to return this love, and is content to be given anything Alastor allows… Well, that’s heartwarming in its own right, isn’t it?

And THIS is why RadioStatic as a qpr/fucked up friendship with benefits has so much potential, to me! <3

[taxi-boi]

the vees are so funny because you know val would say some aphobic shit like "what do you MEAN someone can form meaningful bonds that transcend sex and even romance but especially sex. what do you MEAN not everyones lives revolve around fucking and sucking or atleast like loving if your into that shit"  (romance nuetral arospec allosexual)

meanwhile his on again off again boytoy fuckpartner vox has never truly been sexually attracted to anyone in his life (high libido sex positive ace demi-aro with a propensity for alterous attraction *cough one-sided radiostatic cough*)

and the both of them are in a commited platonic/business relationship with velvette who has absolutely no sexual or romantic interest in either of them (idk if shes a lesbian or aspec or bi and they're just not her type in that way; but its all the same result)

and yet none of them view their partnership as anything below or lesser than compared to the romantic and sexual relationships they do have. if not outright being more important than those (QPR-cule) 

and ofcourse vox and vel will be standing right alongside valentino as he says this, nodding along without a hint of sarcasm or self awareness because they also genuinely think they believe the same thing.

and if you try to point this out to any of them (and somehow convince them that what they have going on is queer platonic and aspec in nature) they'll just be like "yeah but we're The Vees, we're overlords, we can just do whatever the Fuck (or lack there of) we want" and you know what they're right

[onesidedradiostatic]

What's your opinion on valastor (val x alastor)?

I'm assuming you're not a regular over here but uh I don't like any reciprocated romantic alastor ships, and the only alastor qpr I like is radiorose

I AM interested as to what their general relationship would be like though, cause so far alastor has NOPED out of any episode val strongly features in (episodes 4 and 6) and has obviously interacted with vox and been in the same room as velvette, making val interestingly the only vee alastor has not been seen in the same room with.

I think it's also very interesting that they're essentially connected by 2 factors

vox

huskerdust

which are 2 potentials of forcing an interaction between them

also I think val would maybe generally acknowledge alastor as being sexy but be uninterested otherwise (that is vox's thing).

also it's kinda a gag here that val is an alastor repellent because alastor has fourth-wall-breaking sex repulsion.

but aside from that joke, I don't think val is the kind of person alastor would like (although he did use to associate with vox it's kinda ???? on the info we have regarding that, whether vox became worse over time or if vox was like "that one oomf who low-key breaks your dni but you keep him around cause he's chill" until he wasn't), only info we really have regarding alastor's perspective on him is his general view of the vees "nobody important" "he'd (vox would) be powerless without the other vees" which doesn't really tell us much of anything.

we do have a bit more with val's side but he generally doesn't seem that interested but presumably might've been partially involved in the time alastor "almost beat" vox, "he owes us much more than money", I know there's a theory the reason his and vox's left antennae are fucked up is because of that. and val is actually seen smiling at alastor's downfall in episode 8 (he only loses the smile after vox does his weird shit LMAO but if you look at the beginning of each scene you can see he's smiling at the screen like he's enjoying alastor's suffering too. just not to the insane extent of vox) and he celebrates alastor fleeing, together with vox. so there's?? something there that shows they're enemies obviously but he doesn't have that same personal connection vox does

oh yeah I also find it incredibly funny there may have been a time pre-radiostatic-fallout that overlapped with post-voxval-meeting, so there could've been a time vox tried to introduce val to alastor. and (I brought up this exact thing in a previous post but I'm too lazy to find it) I think the moment anything sexual came out of val's mouth alastor would've immediately wanted to stay far away from him (thus starting val being an alastor repellent)

valastor is definitely vox's worst nightmare though. luckily for him it would never happen.

[velvet-games]

whew! this was gonna be a quick 5-minute sketch but I ended up taking way longer lmao (needed something happy after that last post 😅)

sketch:

[cringefailvox]

hi, i'm bay or spoon (they/ze)!! i'm spoondrifts on ao3 and i'm currently writing for hazbin hotel :] if you want to see non-hazbin or more personal stuff from me, my main is @spoondrifts!!

i also have a ko-fi if you'd like to spare a broke college student a few bucks, but no pressure; i write for fun, not for money, though it can be a great motivator!

my inbox is always open, so don't be shy to shoot me a question or anything you want me to see / talk about!! i'm always down to chat :] love u guys!!

fanfic directory under the cut:

our lovely company appears so entertained — alastor/vox, rated M, 2.6k. complete. one-sided bdsm torture session where vox is into it, sexually, and alastor is definitely not

The Diving Bell — charlie/vaggie, rated T, 9.5k. complete. a pre-canon character study of their relationship progression

riding out the drop — valentino/vox, rated E, 4.3k. complete. val gets fed up with vox's fixation on the radio demon, they fuck about it

to slip such carrion ties — alastor & rosie, rated G, 1.7k. complete. missing scene between episodes 7 & 8, rosie character study

sometimes you scrape and sink so low — alastor & husk, rated G, 1.8k. complete. missing scene post-ep 5 where alastor and husk work things out

time has changed the metaphor — alastor/rosie/vox, rated T, 15.2k. complete. first installment in my meteor shower au series where alastor, rosie, and vox are in a qpr together

Featherstone — valentino & velvette & vox + valentino/vox, rated T, 7.8k. complete. accidental baby acquisition with the vees

dragging its tail in the sea — alastor/rosie/vox, rated T, 15.4k. complete. second installment in the meteor shower qpr series

pas de deux — carmilla/velvette, rated E, 4.7k. complete. plotless smut where carmilla teaches velvette a lesson about respect

ET TU, ALASTOR? — angel/lucifer + husk/lucifer + niffty/lucifer + alastor/lucifer, rated M, 4.8k. complete. crackfic of charlie gradually losing her sanity as lucifer rebounds with 80% of her staff

oleanders in june — alastor/vox, rated T, 6k. complete. pre-canon, alastor and vox share a meal and some uncomfortably intimate sadistic tension

spiraling down thy majesty — lucifer/vox, rated E, 7.1k. complete. lucifer and vox decide to vent their mutual frustration about alastor by fucking each other

the world we knew (over and over) — alastor/lucifer + lucifer & charlie + alastor & charlie, rated M, 7.9k. in-progress. time loop fic in which charlie dies during the final battle and lucifer and alastor relive it again, and again, and again

Trust Us With Your Stress Relief! — valentino/velvette/vox, rated M, 2.5k. complete. in which the vees use their monthly vacation day to blow off some steam together (read: torture their employees)

strange perfections in any stranger i choose — alastor/vox, rated G, 3.6k. complete. a take on pre-canon radiostatic's first meeting

i want your violence, your silent sedation — alastor/vox, rated M, 5.8k. complete. in which radio isn't as dead as you think, vox is an irresponsible pet owner, and alastor gets attic wife'd

even now you mark my steps — alastor/vox, rated T, 5.2k. complete. alastor, vox, and an improvised waltz at a plant nursery

come and kiss me, pretty baby — alastor/vox, rated G, 3.3k. complete. drunken queerplatonic radiostatic shenanigans

when the flies fell — alastor/vox, rated E, 32.9k. complete. human(ish) au where weird shit happens when they try to summon a demon together

a putrid feeling that i've addressed — valentino/vox, rated T, 5.1k. complete. helluva boss full moon, staticmoth edition

undone, undress — angel/valentino, rated E, 7.5k. complete. the vees have been defeated, but angel and val aren't finished with each other just yet

volta; you woke the world inside of me — alastor/vox, rated T, 9.6k. complete. queerplatonic t4t radiostatic where vox has a gender crisis and alastor handles it shockingly well

the invitation to happiness — alastor & rosie & vox, rated G, 3.5k, complete. precanon rosemedia celebrating hanukkah together

verbatim — alastor/valentino, rated E, 8k. complete. vox is unavailable for alastor's heat, so valentino steps in to help

scatterbrain — alastor/vox + alastor & rosie + alastor & lilith, rated T, 6.8k. complete. in which alastor's seven-year absence was spent catching some z's

nobody as sweet as you — lucifer/vox, rated T, 8k. complete. sequel to "spiraling down thy majesty" where lucifer and vox follow through on their fake dating plan

jeepers creepers! — alastor/vox, rated E, 8.1k. complete. precanon hypnosis practice gone sexy

all scotch, no soda — angel & husk + angel & alastor, rated M, 5.1k. complete. precanon au where angel and husk are both owned by alastor, based off of this post

thus always to tyrants — alastor/valentino/velvette/vox, rated T, 3.7k. complete. after 7 years off the air, alastor comes home to his partners

[sassy-radio-hazbin-queen]

My thoughts on Alastor ships

Radiorose

Hmm. Cute as friends but I see them more as a mother / son relationship ☺️

Charlastor

I really wasn't shipping this even before Chaggie was canon. Mainly cause I saw Alastor as a Big brother figure to Charlie. And now he thinks he is her dad. ( Lol he is Canonically in his 30s and she is basically in her 20s pretty young dad if you ask me 😂)

Radiodust

MY ORIGINAL OTP. I literally shipped them for years cause Angel has sexual trauma and Alastor would not treat angel like an object. I shipped them hard until Masquerade. Where I leapt off that ship into HUSKERDUST

Radiohusk

Honestly this is a cute ship but I know it will never be canon. I just find it cute though. And I may have read a few overlord Husk x Alastor which are 🥵.

RadioStatic

Ok I'm in a battle with this ship.

On one hand it is cute and sad and complicated. Vox just wanted Alastor love and Alastor being asexual feels like he can't.

On the other hand though. It's also toxic. Vox cannot take a no and literally attack and hates Alastor just cause he ain't interested and Alastor is a bit of a jerk sometimes.

So yeah I'm in a battlefield ( holy shit that should be there theme song battlefield from Jordin Sparks 😍😍)

Radioapple

MY NEW OTP.

At least these two hate each other equally 😂. And both care for Charlie?? ( The question mark is for Alastor 😂) and the fan art is just too cute.

Plus in one of VIZIE early drawing she has them as friends

QPR RADIOAPPLE ANYONE 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[ruleroftheimps]

Oh my gosh, two posts in two days *gasp*

Anyways, this was the main reason it took so long to add anything to the Eternal War AU because... Radiostatic. Or, more accurately, Alastor. I spent the better part of an hour staring at the wall and trying to decide if my endgoal was romantic rdst, or qpr rdst. Along the way, I somehow tripped and fell into a rabbit hole about my own romantic/sexual orientation, and, uh... yeah.

In the end, I decided on projection! Aka, giving Alastor the headache that I get trying to find out the difference between a romantic relationship, and a friendship beyond cuddles and kisses (and sometimes other stuff), especially because fwb are a thing. It took my grayrose ass so long to understand the concept of a qpr because in my mind, that's... basically what a romantic relationship is? Two people with a deep emotional bond that make a commitment to each other? Same with the label 'best friend', my brain just lumps all three together as the same thing lol.

Yeah, so, my weird rambling about how confusing I find identifying different kinds of love aside, I ended up making a chart for this! And then making a few more for the other main ships in this AU because I felt like it lol. Just a quick note, this is where they'd be at the end of this AU.

Basically, there are four sliders on the completed charts, each one answering different questions.

'Emotional' - How close is their emotional bond? Are they literal (possibly platonic) soulmates? Or just two people that tripped and fell into a relationship somehow?

'Romantic' - How big of a part are romantic feelings in their relationship? How much is the romantic part of their relationship emphasized in relationship to their emotional bond?

'Hostile' - How much do they fight?

'Sexual' - ...self-explanatory.

Aaaaand, brief explanations after each one to fully explain because relationships confuse me. Why is this so long-?!

Radiostatic - Both parties are slightly confused on what to call themselves, because there's definitely some romantic feelings, but it's not just that at all. Vox prefers the term 'Partners', because it can refer to both romantic partners or business partners, and Alastor prefers the term 'mine.' As in, he doesn't care if they get labeled as dating or just friends as long as it's made clear that Vox is his. His boyfriend, his friend, his husband, he doesn't care. His. Nobody else's. They are constantly arguing though, although it's mostly playful. The radio/tv and the thermostat arguments are exceptions to this. And both of them also have a very strong aversion to sex, Alastor because he's ace, and Vox because... other reasons.

Chaggie - They both prefer the term 'girlfriends', because, well, that's what they are. Unlike Alastor and Vox, they are very clearly dating, and the romantic feelings are a BIG part of their relationship. They did grow significantly in their emotional bond over the events that are going to happen, but they still started out as two people that just randomly met. They don't really fight that often, and when they do, it's a very quick makeup and over small things. In addition, neither of them are asexual or hypersexual, so they're just... kind of in the middle?

Micheal x Adam/Whatever the hell their ship name is (I think it's Guitarhero or smth like that?) - Prefer the term 'husbands'. They're close, and know each other's buttons and everything, but a few, uh, events during the war in this AU resulted in their emotional bond being weakened significantly. Despite this, they are still close and do care for each other a lot, both romantically and not romantically. They don't usually fight, but there are a... few things that they'll argue over, Cain being the most notable. And, when it comes to Adam's favorite hobby, well, it's Adam. What do you expect?

Huskerdust - Similar to Chaggie, both Angel and Husk prefer 'boyfriends'. They met each other even later than Charlie and Vaggie, so they aren't as close emotionally. Buuut, they've reached the point where the romantic part of their feelings are on par with Micheal and Adam's. They don't fight that much after they get together, mostly just playful jabs (Nothing like Alastor and Vox...), and, well, Angel Dust does, in canon, use Hell to explore his sexuality, and he didn't get that chance till recently in this AU. So... yeah.

[mattomattic]

(Disclaimer: None of this is a commentary on Hazbin itself. I only indulge in shipping for fandom and would prefer Alastor stay single in canon. I'll also be speaking under the assumption that Alastor is aroace.)

As an aroace person, I think the reason I prefer Radioapple to Radiostatic is how the ships interact with Alastor's aspec identity.

Radiostatic

I see the appeal of Radiostatic, yes, but I feel like that ship has a bigger aspec erasure issue than Radioapple does. I can't see a qpr or any very nuanced relationship working with Vox's character.

This is not to say there's a set definition of QPRs and that every relationship is the same. I, myself, am a big fan of relationship anarchy and the breaking down of traditional relationships. But, I don't think it works for Vox? It's headcanon territory, sure, this whole post is, but I feel as if his personality isn't compatible with those ideals. The way the fandom portrays his love and attraction (and what you see in the show) feels as if he knows what he wants and how he wants it. He feels sexual attraction, and that's something he very clearly desires. He's also portrayed in a "I want to be the #1 person you think of" way. He's not changing that, nor does he have to as long as he finds someone who fits that criteria.

In all the depictions of Radiostatic I've seen, it's been very sexual in nature or very heavy on the romantic aspects. I think it stems from the "they used to be friends and Vox wanted to be something more, but Alastor rejected him" headcanon. So when they're paired together, it's usually "What if Alastor didn't reject him?" and "What if he changed his mind later?" Instead of having Vox meet Alastor's needs and desires in a relationship (as he chose Alastor despite him not fufilling his needs), a lot (not all) of Radiostatic content is dependent on Alastor going back on the boundaries he set and compromising on his own sexuality.

This idea of "they weren't enough as they are, and need to be more" irks me, but it's an accurate portrayal of Vox, imo. He doesn't think what they had was good enough or what he wanted it to be, so he tried to change it. Alastor didn't want the same things he did, and he didn't like that. What Alastor was willing to offer wasn't what Vox wanted. He's unwilling to accept that and became bitter and Alastor, too, in return. While it's interesting to see how they could change and get over that and get to a point where they could work out, the way I've seen it done just doesn't hit the mark without some major tweaks to their character. Rather than experimenting with Alastor's inability to return Vox's feelings in the same capacity, people just forgo that entirely and write it so he eventually does.

I can't see the ship working out unless Vox prioritizes Alastor. Alastor's asexuality and aromanticism are disregarded so often when people are shipping him. He's always having to set aside his identity for the other person, or there's an "exception" to his sexuality. With Vox, that is so often the basis of their relationship. I don't like it. Maybe I just haven't seen enough content, but idk.

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Radiosilence

It's for those same reasons that I think Radiosilence is so enjoyable.

Radiosilence is a tragedy of sorts, as is Radiostatic, but I think this version is better in that the joke is on Vox. The change has to be made on his side and not Alastor's. Alastor is not attracted to him in the same way Vox is, and that isn't an issue. He's allowed to feel that way, and that isn't his fault or wrong.

Vox's desperate pining is both sad and comedic. Vox can't always get what he wants, and it's clear that Aroace people aren't something you can "make love you" if you try hard enough. Alastor isn't playing hard to get. He does not like him like that and will not. Vox isn't willing to compromise, so he's left behind. Alastor doesn't have to compromise. He gets to live how he wants, and Vox is only an annoyance at this point. Radiosilence is such a good portrayal of aroace experiences and people who can't take no for an answer. It's so good.

Radioapple

With that being said, I am biased. I am a huge radioapple fan. Being transparent, some radioapple shippers have the same issue that Radiostatic ones do. I have seen my fair share of "Alastor's sexuality doesn't really matter in the long run" in Radioapple content. The sheer amount of "heavily sex based relationship" content despite his CANON asexuality (when they could easily get away with the "Alastor isn't canoncially Aro!" shtick instead) is astounding.

However, I've also seen so much more queerplatonic representation in this ship than I ever have before. The non-traditional romance dynamics I've seen in the fandom make me so happy. As someone who's inclined to ships that don't show affection in a "normal" way as it's easier to view them outside of typical amatonormativity, Radioapple really does it for me.

To expand on that last statement, I think it's the nature of their dynamic that offsets those shipping and sexuality issues, for the most part.

Their whole relationship starts with arguing and bickering. From the get-go, there is no preface of romance or traditional relationship development. They start off rocky yet weirdly obsessed with each other. Instead of having someone be interested in Alastor and him not reciprocating or being chased after, it starts with Alastor's interest. While that initial intrigue isn't particularly romantic, it's very personal. Alastor wants to piss Lucifer off, wants to push his buttons, and it works. All Lucifer does is fight back in earnest.

He isn't doing anything he doesn't want to do. With how they are portrayed in fandom, Alastor keeps needling him, and Lucifer pushes back. Their dynamic is built on something other than romantic chemistry. Sure, how touchy with each other and how close they get isn't typical for two people who hate each other, but theres nothing saying that can't be platonic in nature.

In what I've read, the way Radioapple develops is into a strange sort of friendship or kinship first and foremost. They don't start doing anything romantic or remotely sexual (unless you count the cannibalism / drinking Lucifers blood dynamic, but that's hardly ever an attraction thing on Alastor's side! It's usually Lucifer's attraction, which I'll get to in a moment). They still bicker constantly, and the base of their relationship is still the desire to pick each other apart, but they add things to it.

They add conversations, they add outings, they add late night bonding, or cooking, or anything else people like to include. Rather than changing either of them or their relationship entirely, they only begin to include what they are both comfortable with.

In a lot of depictions, it is Lucifer who falls first. He's the more "emotionally in touch" of the two (though he has his own issues with vulnerability that we see in Canon). There's a lot of content where he is head over heels (+ some denial and frustration) and constantly pining.

However, in a majority of these, he doesn't actually go for it. He has an understanding of Alastor's boundaries and lack of desire or inclination for relationships (even if he doesn't know it's a sexuality thing or why) and keeps his feelings to himself. And it's never portrayed as Lucifer being wrong for having these feelings for someone who is Aroace or uninterested, but rather manifests as "he wouldn't like me back and that's okay, I'll have to get over it".

In the same way that I think Vox's portrayal as "not satisfied with what him and Alastor had and wanting more" is accurate to his character, I think Lucifer's "satisfied with what him and Alastor currently have, but wants more" portrayal is accurate to him.

We see it with how he treats Charlie. It's obvious he wants a strong relationship with his daughter, but he's more than willing to cherish exactly what she's giving him. He doesn't ask for more. He tries to fulfill her needs and be there for her, but doesn't reach out for more than she'll let him. It comes with a whole load of issues with his self-esteem and mental health that's more fitting for a character analysis, but the point is that he appreciates things as they are, even if he does still wonder about what they could be.

That's what charms me about Radioapple. Lucifer is so willing to meet Alastor on his level. When they begin to reach more affectionate territory, Lucifer is naturally inclined to take it at Alastor's pace. He isn't settling, and Alastor isn't changing himself. When he does build up the will to ask for more from Alastor, he does it with compromise in mind rather than the "getting what I want" attitude you'd see in Vox.

The ship works so well with Alastor's identity because, in all honesty, you don't need to view any of their interactions as romantic. They can do things like kiss or cuddle or something that can be seen as romantic, but it can just as easily be platonic or queerplatonic.

It's easy to adjust the frequency of each activity in their relationship to how you personally view Alastor's take on it (ranging from "only does it for Lucifer on ocassion to make him happy" to "enjoys it and prefers this aspect of the relationship to others"). He can have off days where something he was comfortable with before (i.e., physical touch) isn't doing it for him or upsets him, and it's believable to think Lucifer would take that in stride. You can realistically write Lucifer having an adjustment period to Alastor's needs and habits that bring them to an understanding and still be in character.

In turn, Lucifer's efforts are recognized. It's an important part of their dynamic that Alastor is doing this because he wants to. Whether you write them as queerplatonic, romantic, or even sexual (those frequency shifts apply there too! Ranging from never to whenever the mood strikes.), Alastor is engaging of his own volition. Lucifer's respect for his needs and boundaries (as long as they're properly voiced, he's not a mind reader) lowers his guard. It allows him to consider the possibility of a relationship with him because he's already built trust!

The trust is so, so important. With Radiostatic, that trust was already broken once and needs to be rebuilt. That can be super interesting in a narrative, but Alastor is inherently someone who doesn't trust others. It would take so much work for them to get there, and Alastor sure as hell isn't the one to initiate that.

With Radioapple, Lucifer is the one to initiate that. He builds the foundation of trust and starts the "maybe this guy isn't as terrible as I thought he was" dynamic, even if unconsciously*.

(*Big fan of oblivious Lucifer who keeps thinking Alastor doing nice things is some evil plot, but begrudgingly going along with it to "figure out this guy's deal." Bonus points if it is an evil plot, but Alastor gets side tracked and ends up enjoying Lucifer's reactions, making it partially or entirely real. But thats just me.)

For Radioapple to work, Alastor doesn't have to feel sexual attraction. He doesn't have to feel romantic attraction. Hell, he can even be repulsed from either concept, and it could still work with some clear communication, labeling, and boundaries.

I didn't go too into what Alastor could want from or feel about Lucifer in this. There's a lot I could say on his lust for power, the fueling of his ego, the picking apart of a being so high above his stature, the quiet company, the understanding, and other things. The same goes for the concept of Lucifer letting Alastor treat him as he does (without respect for his status) because he enjoys being viewed as a person and not just as king. But that's because it goes a little too much into "these are the tropes I love in this ship" territory than I already have in this post. It's already very much my personal opinion, no need for more of that. This was mostly about Alastor's sexuality and shipping compatibility, after all.

Conclusion

Radiostatic is fine. Not for me, but it's cute, and I see the appeal. There's so much potential there for interesting dynamics, I just think it's better unrequited. The shippers are also so talented. Some of the art I can't help but like because it's so damn good. I can't lie. Some art has almost made me a shipper, had it not been for the reasons above. Keep it up!

Alastor's sexuality is such an intense topic in the fandom and in discourse. I'm a firm believer in do whatever the fuck you want, I'm not your boss. But I do think it's nice to see aroace rep and non-amatonormative dynamics in fandom. Even if the vessel for that is shipping. I said it earlier, but I love how well qprs are represented and how popular the tag is now on AO3. It's great.

Do I want these ships to become canon? Besides Radiosilence, absolutely not. I would like my very clear and obvious Aromantic Asexual Alastor in the show itself. I like seeing people like me on TV. I like the lack of romantic relationships. I like how openly queer he is without it being tied to sex or romance. It's refreshing.

Do I think people should use that as an argument against shipping? No. I understand the disappointment, I understand the discomfort. I feel it sometimes. But when it's done well with actual respect to his identity, I think shipping can be really fun. Curate your own experience with fandom instead of hating on others.

Like the stuff you want to see and avoid the stuff you don't. The point is to have fun and enjoy the content you like!

[paincaat]

hello.

welcome to my perfectly normal tacky techy typewriter-esque page. i am your humble host, PainCaat, here to bless your eyes with absolutely wonderous works of art. pleasure to be meeting you, quite a pleasure!

a bit about me, i'm an aroace breadcat who sold their soul to the overlord of cursed content and am now obligated to ruin everyone's eyes. i recently learned about the hellaverse just as hazbin released and made a tumblr blog for the first time shortly after to shitpost and make actual art about the show. somehow, this has devolved into a blog for cursed content. i have no idea what the fuck i'm doing. free me please.

Tags

🍞🐈‍⬛ - personal rambling

cursed nun cat alastor - this monstrosity

there will probably be more cursed ones in the future. stay tuned.

caatdoodles - doodle posts

FAQ

Why did you feel the need to make ___ cursed post?

Can I repost your work?

generally for personal use yes, but please ask first and include credit! the only exception to this is if you intend to use it with NSFW intent (ex. NSFW RP, commentary etc.). Just dont use my work please. it makes me highly uncomfortable to have my work attached to certain content and i will be blocking anyone who doesn't respect that

Can I request art?

feel free to drop them in my asks! i likely won't be able to get to all of them unfortunately so i will prioritize ones that i can make cursed, find funny. or can do quickly (just keep in mind i work over full time hours some weeks so there's a chance i'm not punctual with delivering depending on the nature of the request)

Commissions?

i'm still sorting out the details but i'd love to open them up! for now, if you want to commission me feel free to send me a DM and we could work something out!

Aspec Alastor?

i personally don't enjoy seeing the majority of alastor shipping content and will never make any serious shipping art. for cursed reasons or crackshipping? sometimes. (heck i don't even know how to draw a kiss properly).

that being said i do find onesided radiostatic funny at times and don't mind qpr radiorose. also its the internet, if you enjoy alastor shipping, be my guest. i just ask you to be respectful to my fellow aspecs and respect that this blog is meant to be an aspec-friendly space

Why is your art style so inconsistent?

lmao so i actually switch between using a bunch of drawing tools with varying proficiencies. i tend to do doodles on procreate or clip studio paint, and animate on krita. i would say that i'm probably best at using clip studio and krita since im more used to using a drawing tablet than a tablet screen. also i just like drawing in multiple styles for my personal art

thanks for reading - will update this as necessary :}

[ysmirall]

I do Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss asks and headcanons,also write about ships. Everyone can ship who they want but these are the ships I specifically write for:

• one sidet Radiostatic/Radiosilence ( Vox x Alastor)

• Staticmoth ( Vox x Valentino)

• Huskerdust ( Angel dust x Husker)

• Pentniss ( Arakniss x Sir Pentious )

• QPR Radioapple ( Alastor x Lucifer Magne)

• Alastor x Lillith but more on a toxic level

• Stolitz ( Stolas x Blitzo)

• Fizzmodeus/Fizzaozzie ( Fizzarolli x Asmodeus )

• Strikzo ( Striker x Blitzo)

I also write for their human versions.

I also do reader x ( character of choice from my list)

And I wont to ad that you can ask for ships that arent listed here but I might not write them if they make me to uncomfortable