#but Lucifer & Sam. it’s already there.
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Jack au where he's a psychic who can commune with ghosts. Almost every major character from Supernatural is a ghost. Including Sam Dean and Cas. This would serve these major tennants of his relationships:
Isolated. The people Jack spends the majority of his time with are NOT part of the normal world. Sam, Dean, Cas and Mary live in a bunker and don't know how to be people. The AU hunters are literally from another world. His mom is dead. Kaia is split between realms. The only Real people he knows well are his young adult nerd friends and arguably Harper. You don't want 1/4 of your tie to reality to be a witch who wants to be Cheryl Blossom from Riverdale as her life's aspiration. That's no way to live!
Intangible. Because of Jack's immense power, he is, in a sense, untouchable. He is stopped when people hug him or push him or shoot him because he chooses to stop. There is a veil between him and them. There is also a scarcity of common ground. There is nothing else out there like him. Dean might stomp and bark and howl but, ultimately, what can he do to Jack physically? Nothing. The only power the ghosts have is emotional and social. Imagine being outcasted by the ghosts who can only see you and each other. Ouch!
Fleeting. Everyone he cares for is doomed to die. This happens even before he's born with Cas and Kelly and Mary, but also throughout his life. He both has long strings of tragedy in short periods AND he's immortal and worries about it. Loss and loniness are inevitable for him on a massive scale. Cas might claim that he'll be there with him but he dies like twice a year at least. Picture ghost!Cas midway through a reassuring speech that he's always going to be there with him fading out into the veil mid-sentence.
Guilt-ridden. Life is wasted on the living, isn't it? Youth is wasted on the young. He's got dozens of ghosts needing him to live in the way they want him to so they can feel alive again, and he's not capable of being that (literal) lifeline. He needs to learn how to say no and stick to it. He needs to learn how to live with the fact that he has to disappoint people to live well sometimes. He has to engage with the living, because the dead are going to kill him if he hangs on to them too long.
So if someone could write this devestating yet beautiful 25k+ fic for me that'd be really swell.
#jack kline#spn au#I'm picturing bbc ghosts style jack having full on conversations with a hoard of invisible bickering weirdos#the biggest hurdle i think is him not emerging fully formed as a young adult for this#because like. I cannot picture a jack childhood at all. that WOULDN'T radically alter his character.#if he's raised by kelly then he needs a strong relationship with her which fucks with that#if he's raised by (distant and grieving) mary that weirds up the sam and dean stuff like is mary still their mom or like a distant relative#how did she come into parentage of jack.#if he's raised by lucifer or dagon that's a whole new can of worms that would be very distracting from the quiet lonely vibes of the rest#if he was in foster care or state funded homes that's another set of traumas and cast of characters who would inevitably have shaped him#if he's raised by au!bobby then he'd have to have a stronger relationship with him than feels right to me#if we handwave his past that also feels weird#maybe he has amnesia. lol. but that really would need there to be a history he comes back to#maybe he really is a magical baby still. he already has magic powers to talk to the dead.#cawis creates
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actually no. lucifer does not have unique enochian pronouns that only sam uses. because sam also uses those pronouns for himself and has since lucifer taught them to him. it’s not that he/him is wrong, it’s that sam is more than be encompassed by any language not shared with lucifer.
#lucifer’s enochian pronouns for itself being ‘unique’ in that lucifer was already using a set relegated to archangels specifically#and THEN after he fell carved that pronoun set up because it was. inherently. a plural pronoun set with no options for singular referral.#and he was no longer that. was he.#and THENNNN he got locked in the cage for 1 million years with no reference for what enochian should sound like but his own voice and#memories echoing back at him and distorting and corrupting over time#so by the time he teaches the words to sam. they can only refer to lucifer. because he was the only one who had ever spoken them out loud#until sam did as well. and so now they mean Sam too.#lucifer does not modify its pronouns to be plural again. it and sam are both using the singular form only. but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t#always refer to both of them anyway. if that makes sense.#shared gender is a love language#samifer
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While I love Jack and do think Alexander Calvert did a truly amazing job playing him and the fact he looks a little like Misha is adorabel.
but I do think that we were robbed from how astronomical the following seasons could have been if Jack was a girl.
#but I'm also glad they didn't cause they would have probably somehow fucked it up in the most sexist way possible#like they've already confirmed in universe that god is a little sexist and I'd wager that rubbed off a little bit atleast on lucifer#the fact that the whole world would have been looking for another boy saviour of course they would be#it would complicate her relationships with everyone#like looking at her would be a constant reminder to Castiel of all the ways failed he failed claire#it would take him so much longer to fully come to all his complex feelings about Jack being his daughter#because then he'd have to acknowledge the little girl he already abandoned#that he is in the stolen body of a father who already had a daughter who is still alive and rightfully hates him#Not to even mention chuck and all the issues he already had with Amara the only powerful female presence he really has in his life and she#and she was stronger than his and that more than anything is probably what got to him and then he'd have to face Jack#another woman who might be stronger than him and I think that would drive him crazy#he's see so much of Amara in her and it would make him violent#not to talk about the winchesters like what do they do with that?#they barely know how to be men how do they raise a woman?#supernatural#god if she was blonde? like their mother and claire? It would ruin them.#lucifer spn#spm#jack kline#rule 63#rule 63 spn#chuck shurley#castiel#castiel novak#claire novak#alexander calvert#dean winchester#sam winchester#spn#team free will
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Supernatural s5 e22
Here we go, carry on my wayward son is playing. We get Impala lore and Chuck is narrating. Dean is letting Sam make his own decision, if he wants to jump into hell he'll have his back. Cass napping in the back of the Impala. Sam saying goodbye to everyone 😭. Sam's got his juice. Did Lucifer just sing the devil went down to Georgia? Lol. The fidget spinner key worked... Sadly Lucifer won. Lucifer wants Sam to be happy. Cass and Bobby have lost faith while Dean wants to do anything to get Sam back. And were back to Lawrence, always back home. This hurts. Family memories bringing Sam back 😭😭😭. Sam pulling him Lucifer Michael and Adam into the cage 😭 I can't. Cass is back, he's an Angel again, and he's going back to heaven. Dean when back to Lisa, I like her he deserves some peace for a but... Cus theirs 10 more seasons.
#batcavescolony watches#batcavescolony watches supernatural#supernatural#sam winchester#dean winchester#emotional chick flick moment#castiel#sam made dean promise to live an apple pie life after hes gone#chuck saying they were never homeless#dean doesn't want Sam to die alone.#why do all of johns kids wear the same clothes?#a Netflix Lucifer crossover where Lucifer takes everyone to therapy with Linda#Dean is here. yall forgot you're using his little brothers in your fight#Lucifer is protective of Michael he killed Cass for Molotoving him#cass are you god?#and he healed bobby and dean 😭😭😭#god cass god cass god cass. imagine that he was out finding god but he was actually god the whole time. hmmm au?#id be very surprised at chuck disappearing if i didnt already know. he was god but i am surprised at Sam/Lucifer? watching Dean
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How to Write 80k of Samifer In 2024
Step 1: Keep referencing SuperWhoLock
Step 2: Google "pregnancy symptoms" three times every day in a state that actively tracks that data.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit
#When the uterine police contacts me in 10 months trying to find a newborn I will have to show them this fic and I may be humanely euthanized#Anyway I already have an AU divergence for this AU which is a sign of a healthy Feck Fic.#I've stuck Lucifer in a pleasant first trimester and also Sam's sweatshirt so I have indeed referenced Doctor Who more than the central plo#supernatural fanfiction#i can't help it with you samifer
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Season 12 Cas is literally spiralling so fucking hard for the whole season i love it, go off my mentally and emotionally unwell king <3
#lik hes already coping with the weight of his mistakes and failures and heaven finally completely severing ties with him and then#sam and dean went missing for one (1) month and cas said nothing bad will EVER happen to them(him) ever again idc how unhinged i hav to b t#achieve this#AND HES SO REAL FOR THAT#s12 my beloved#spn#castiel#supernatural#cat spirals tag#season 12 is SO good i love it so so much#except for the bad lucifer B plot shhhh
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Okay, you know what, I'll watch the last four episodes tomorrow. Cause I got a Claire/Cas episode to get through, at least two Charlie/Styne episodes, and the last where Dean likely spends a majority thinking about killing his brother and saying horrible shit to him. lmao. I think I'll pass for this Christmas.
#The Hardy Boys But With Ghosts#spn#supernatural#sam winchester#dean winchester#Ive been through too much physical pain today for this bullshit#not in the mood#and it was already such a slog to get through the last few episodes#christ does the writing get better at some point? Im really not impressed with this season#I just gotta keep thinking of the sam/lucifer - just gotta keep thinking about it
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Tired wired brain idea, angelic names are sacred, they hold power over the angel it belongs to. But only in their language, Enochian, it was created by God to say their names with meaning, any angel called upon God in the name of angels was an absolute honor. It also acted as a reminder of the power God has over every angel he created, there's a reason it's so difficult for angels to have free will. Taking power over their name is forbidden, it's one of the reasons why Lucifer was casted away. Every angel knows the tale no matter how young or old they are, God made it a point to create the angels with this knowledge. It's also why God never gave his name to the angels, even the name Chuck falls flat of power, it's not the angelic language, it's not his true name.
This is all well and good, when angels touch down to Earth, the names they share hold a little power over them, it's why you can call upon them and trick them into a trap. But it's nothing compared to a human saying their true name.
When Castiel met Dean, they rattled off the name humans recognize as the angel of Thursdays and other associations. Meeting Sam though, their true name came out quietly, disrupted by thunder from Uriel, the humans didn't hear it. That didn't mean Castiel wasn't reminded of the dire consequences that can occur if they want to be giving out true names to humans, with the road Sam was on, he hardly counted as human, drifted closer to demonic. Uriel spread the rumor, though they called it a message and warning that Lucifer's vessel is capable of pulling out true names. Be careful and deliberate when speaking to the boy, and only do so when necessary.
This was the first domino to fall of Castiel taking the power over their name. When they picked the Winchesters over heaven, Sam was the first to know Castiel's true name. His pronunciation was horrid but better than Dean's attempts, though they weren't true attempts, Bobby was the closest to saying it correctly. Castiel shared multiple names and peeled back the open wounds of the language, teaching them how to use the language as a tool and weapon.
There's a lot more to delve into but ending on this, Castiel wasn't the first angel to reveal their name to Sam. Lucifer was. Countless thoughts and dreams would land on this name, Sam was never able to locate the source until they revealed themselves in the form of Jessica. Telling Sam he could trust them, giving the name, and telling Sam how to use it. Believing Sam would never be able to have ownership of the vessel once they took over it. Believing there was no power to that name anymore but they could pretend there was to gain Sam's trust. And finding out how wrong they were when Sam harnessed that power over Lucifer long enough to put them back in the cage. Where Lucifer took revenge and etched the language into Sam's head, making the language burn on Sam's tongue, making it so repulsive that Sam would never want to utter a single word from the angelic language. Making him regret ever speaking it, while burning out the original language Sam had spoken on Earth. Hoping to leave Sam without a voice, without any power, but like so many others, Lucifer underestimated Sam and the knowledge they gave Sam was far greater than anything Castiel ever revealed. Allowing Sam enough protection to his vessel to remain safe from Lucifer, but not his mind.
#This was inspired by faes but also the lore in spn as well#I did alter it but I couldn't stop thinking about demons true names they were often kept secret#It gave humans power over them - take Crowley for instance - they were able to dig up his corpse and hurt Crowley through it#So there's already a tangible lead through names holding power#There's so much more to this idea but I am currently trying to avoid my other idea disappearing#And I'm curious what others take away from this#castiel#uriel#sam winchester#dean winchester#bobby singer#lucifer#tw torture#tw abuse#chuck shurley
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I get offended on dean’s behalf when ppl are more viscerally upset by sam’s relationship with lucifer than his relationship with dean
#it’s worse. in terms of narrative impact#sorry! it’s worse!#the best thing abt lucifer to me is his crossover with dean#I’ve said this already but the possessiveness/corrosive love for sam that ppl ascribe to lucifer#isn’t really there lmfao. certainly not to the extent that it is spilling off the page for dean#which isn’t to say that sam and lucifer’s relationship doesn’t interest me#I just don’t agree with what the fandom does with it#like I think . bear with me. some of you want to be writing SD but can’t get past the ick of it
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Honestly I just think that. Demon dean possessing sam would have been a natural progression in their relationship and it really should have happened because like. He basically did it with gadreel and their relationship only got more toxic and controlling and it would have been interesting and I think dean actually experiencing what it is like to be sam would have been incredibly eye opening in every horrible fucked up way. Anyways. Demon dean possesses sam and immediately smokes out because he cannot handle being sam and this is how they manage to pin him down long enough to turn him human as he is weakened from it.
#supernatural#sam winchester#dean winchester#I mean when you think about it#everyone wants sam Winchester but no one wants to be him#except for meg and Lucifer and gadreel#but even then they were superimposing themselves onto him and didn’t bother to truly know him#they all projected their own selves#which dean already does outside of sam so#possession is the natural next step#but the difference dean actually does love sam#and he doesn’t know the extent to which he doesn’t know him#and even if he doesn’t love him as a demon#he thinks he knows him#and he doesn’t#fic fodder
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😒😒😒😒 i understand all of the bitter samgirls...
#sam *does* have a lot of great storylines in the later seasons???#idk what you wanna define as late seasons but s6 onwards had a LOT of great sam moments#soulless? hallucifer???? trials???? gadreel??? maybe he has to go back to the cage??? dying and being brought back by lucifer in apocalypse#like wtf did dean and cas do in season 8?? i dont fucking remember#also i think the people who criticise jared for how he acted in the bloopers are stupid.#the spn bloopers were insanely popular#to the point i saw more of the bloopers than clips of the show before i watched it#the bloopers were a part of the job!!!!!#goofing so they had stuff for them was probably required#and if jared was such a nightmare on set then why didnt they cut down on how much jared was shooting??#im pretty sure j2 asked to film less for the later seasons and they said no??? correct me if im wrong#also jared is a good actor?? im not really sure why so many people seem convinced that hes the weakest member of the cast#cuz misha and jensens rough moments are so much rougher to me#have you ever seen my bloody valentine??? girllllll jensen is not good in that movie <3 but god bless him for trying#and all of the dean and jacks storylines were copies of sams why would they have him do that twice?#i sound very bitter but i just dont think theres a big conspiracy#sam had tons of huge moments in the later seasons and dean did a few big arcs cuz sam already did some(and they were better) its that simpl
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if supernatural was any good, they would have had mary and lucifer sleep together in the apocalypse world. this would have solved zero problems with the show, but it would have created a hundred more interesting ones than they already had.
#they could have done this. for me.#it should have gone really well too. for mary and lucifer i mean.#because that would be 1000x worse for everyone else involved. if mary enjoyed herself and bonded with him.#doesn’t even have to be much of a bond but like. just enough that when sam and dean are there. it’s so incredibly uncomfortable.#sam like :) this is the second time my mother has slept with someone complicit in torturing me. i feel normal about this and its not#messing me up so bad im going to scream. this is fine.#dean would freak the fuck out about it though. openly and loudly. it’s *lucifer*.#which. of course. trying to tell mary that she’s not allowed to do what she’s already decided she’s doing because dean doesn’t want her to.#yeah. im sure that’ll go well.#lucifer doesn’t even have to do anything to drive a wedge between them besides sit there look pretty and eat mary out until she screams.#easiest job in the world#and most importantly: it would have been hot. literally just let someone walk in on mary pinning the devil himself to the floor.#why not give me this one thing huh
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sorry i don't understand why s5 is a fan favorite i just keep rocking back and forth going he would not fucking say that he would not f
#soapbox#is it cause im not a mega desti shipper. bc god this season sucks.#specifically on 5x18 and just got to the “its only a matter of time before you give in to lucifer sam so i was gonna kill myself”#this combined with throwing away the samulet is so go fuck yourself 😭😭#i think the next ep is a gabriel ep. can he save me. changing channels was already the best so far
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in my "Sam craving purity so much he traps an angel inside of him and never lets them go so they can make him holy from the inside forever and ever and ever. and sam already has so much experience in fighting back against lucifers control of him that he can successfully keep up the facade that he is totally normal while and angel is stuck inside him banging on the walls screaming to be let out" thoughts again
#the angel in question is up 2 u#imo i like thinking of this happening w gadreel. a fun little switcheroo on sam acting normal while possessed by him#but this time 4 different reasons#cas also works. and is sadder bc theyre already friends so itd be a big betrayal but at least cas has company they enjoy#and itd also work for lucifer also i guess idk im not lucifer brained enough 2 think abt how it would work with him#whatever. sammy becoming his own cage. <3
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my other hot take about s11 is that the midseason fics where "Castiel" seduces Dean and everybody except Lucifer has a real bad time are hot, but the world is sorely lacking in versions where Sam walks in on them and Realizes, immediately or eventually, who it is
#i'm sure all four of them would have a super chill and fun and friendly and relaxing day about it. zero atrocities would occur.#yes this is one of the fics i'm not writing. yes i think many people's versions should exist besides the one in my head. the possibilities!#supernatural#spn s11#casifer#dean winchester#sam winchester#castiel#spn!lucifer#dare i tag this#destiel#the concept does kinda hinge on it being something those two might conceivably have done or been interested in already#...dealer's choice on what other pairings might be involved too lol
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they would've done jess so badly if she'd shown back up at any point in the show but my 'jess lives sam dies ' season one spn au is like. magnificent in its power
#you thought dean winchester was depressed already? WELL LET ME TELL YOU#honestly lucifer showing up as jess in sam's dreams...... we clown we make fun but there was a time this show was TELEVISION#it's sooooooooo upsetting to think that she was alive on that ceiling for an hour before sam came home#show that loved to kill women...... spn you were that show
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