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I’m probably going to get jump for saying this or not since nobody cares about BV internationally except for the dumb age thing.
I can’t believe how much euneye has changed since she debuted in the group. When I was watching all those videos on the group, I couldn’t help but notice. She looked like a completely different person and I didn’t recognize her at first. But as the videos went on, she started to look like the eunhye we all (or at least people who watch coffee prince like me) knew today.
Her fans deny she had any plastic surgery and that she looks just like she did when she was 15 but it’s obvious that it’s not true. Then again, stans of Korean celebrities always have a weird sense of denial about their favs getting plastic surgery.
#mine#this isn’t hate towards the actress#she’s pretty#but I just noticed this when watching bv videos#I couldn’t register how she looked when she first debuted as being her#there’s also nothing wrong with getting PS
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Love your blog and thoughts💜
So coming to the ask do you think jikook would throw the potato in the air and just stay together in jk's new fortress?? Is it true that they used to spend their life together in a house because we know that jk nearly lost his mind over jm in early 2023 in his lives. I don't think we was simply having those lives for fun. I do really believe that he was infact struggling or like distracting himself over his lack of jiminie time. We know that this has not happened prior to the solo era as jk in lives was completely different from jk in ot7 era
Hey there 😊
Thanks so much. It means a lot.
The first part of your ask, I'll answer that at the end of this post.
Let's start with the second part.
Do I think they were living together?
Yes. I do. I think the speculation about Jikook living together started when this video dropped:
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Yoongi is teasing Jimin about watching their old videos. And Jungkook joins in saying he also watched the old videos. He says "I was at home with him". The him in question being Jimin cause it was Jimin who was getting teased.
But I think they were sharing living spaces (not exactly living together in a house of their own) since their shared dorm days. Have you noticed the video of the members packing before their BV Season 3 trip?
We see Jungkook sitting on a mattress in a walk in closet, packing for the trip. Then it looks like he walked straight out of that closet into Jimin and Hoseok's room.
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This is the same closet where he filmed this video:
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I think he was living in that walk in closet which is attached to Jimin and Hoseok's room. We have already seen countless times how Jimin and Hoseok tease Jungkook about how he's coming into their shared bedroom at nights. Jungkook even left his toothbrush next to Jimin's. Also, just keep in mind that Hoseok already bought his own apartment (Trimage) in 2016.
There's also this interesting fact about the timing of Jikook's apartment purchases. Jimin bought his first apartment in 2018 as an investment. It was getting rebuilt. Jungkook also bought his apartment (Trimage) in 2018 where Hoseok also has an apartment. And it was clear that Jimin was living together with Jungkook in 2019 and 2020 cause his apartment was not livable. This is clear from how Jungkook told in BV Season 4 that he only saw Jimin and Hoseok during their break in 2019. The trio was also often seen sharing car rides to official schedules cause they were coming from the same place.
In 2021 Jimin bought his Nine One apartment in the same complex as Namjoon. Now, Jungkook sold his Trimage apartment in 2020, handed over his Yongsan Apartment to his brother in Dec 2020 and bought a house in Itaewon in 2021 but it was let on rent. So, he had no place to live while Jimin had. So, probably they were living together in Jimin's apartment at this time. It actually slips out from Namjoon during this live:
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Namjoon says "our house". Namjoon and Jimin are neighbors. But here its just him and Jungkook. So, the "our" implies that Jungkook's living together with Jimin.
Also, there's Bam being more familiar and comfortable around Jimin compared to the other members which we got to see in ITS Season 2. And Jimin mentioning how Bam used to fall asleep in Jimin's arms with his nose nuzzled into Jimin's forearms.
Now shall we revisit the times Jikook made it obvious that they were living together?
1) Jimin saying how both him and Jungkook were together at 4am (It was Jungkook's birthday) when they got the news of Dynamite being No. 1 in BBHot100
2) Jin calling Jimin on his birthday live where Jimin says he's with Jungkook
3) Jimin saying how waking up in the morning and seeing Jungkook's face makes him happy. Thus, implying they share a bedroom together
4) Jungkook wanted to make the LGO MV as realistic as possible so he showed him and Jimin to be sharing a room and also teased Jimin about his morning breath
5) In 2020 BTS Festa Jimin was talking about how he wants to be together with the members as BTS for a long time and Jungkook pipes in to add how Jimin told him the same thing the previous day
6) Jimin being super familiar with Jungkook's sleeping habits. Jimin explaining how Jungkook's face changes while sleeping in the behinds of Lights MV. Jimin imitating how Jungkook snores in ITS Season 1. It was very detailed too. Like how the snoring starts and then revs up. Jimin talks about this again in ITS Season 2
7) Jungkook waiting for Jimin in RUN BTS 127 even though he won the rock, paper, scissor game
8) All those times they jokingly complain about having to wait for the other to finish up so that they can leave for home
9) This conversation:
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10) Jimin was Project Manage for BE and asked everyone to mail him their proposals to which Jungkook replied like this:
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Cause why mail him when they're living together?
11) Jimin saying that Jungkook takes 50 mins in the shower. The other members seem surprised by this information (Radio Disney Interview 2019)
12) Jimin knowing how Jungkook's alarm sounds though Jungkook said that he keeps changing it constantly
13) Jungkook arriving together with Jimin spotting a hickey
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14) Jikook arriving together late for the MBC Radio Show. They were also seen leaving together
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15) BTS is gifted knives in the Run BTS cooking episode. All the members are gifted one each. But Jungkook says "We got 2 knives" referring to Jimin's and his knives together
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16) Jimin says that he likes to be dressed down while at home to which Hoseok adds " And Jungkook's in charge of the music" to which Jimin completely stills for a second ( Jimin, Hoseok, Taehyung live where Jungkook also later joins in)
16) Arriving together at the airport for their flight (UNGA 2021)
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17) Jikook and Jin return to SK after PTD LA. Jungkook and Jin arrives first. Jungkook waits for Jimin to arrive, but gets separated at the cars for quarantine (Dec 6 2021)
Jungkook posts a story on his Instagram (Dec 9 2021)
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18) In 2021 Jikook were spotted several times by K ARMY in the district where Jimin's apartment is located at. Their voting district was also the same. They were also spotted taking covid tests at the same health clinic. Those tests are taken in the health clinic based on the district you live in (Jimin's apartment, Jungkook's apartment and Jungkook's house are all located in 3 different districts)
I'm quite certain there's more of these proofs some of which we haven't even seen.
All these basically is confirmation that Jikook were living together.
Now let's see what happened once BTS announced their hiatus in group activities in Festa 2022.
There's so much confusion among the fans regarding this news. And Jungkook comes live as a part of damage control on June 16 2022 from Brunnen apartment. This is the first time we get to see this place. This place is not under his name and had a few furniture pieces from their shared dormitory.
The next live happens on Sept 1 2022 (his birthday) from the same place. We know that its a tradition for the members to do a live on their birthdays. So, thats what this live basically is. He also promotes his photo book then continues the live by singing songs and talking with ARMY.
His next live is on Nov 21 2022 after his Dreamers performance at the World Cup. Its from his hotel room in Qatar.
So, after the hiatus was announced he did only 3 lives. 1st live to reassure ARMY, 2nd live a birthday live and the 3rd after his World Cup Performance.
And then its 2023. Jimin is super busy preparing for his Solo Debut.
Jungkook comes live on Feb 1 2023, midnight. He did this live by his own choice, not authorized by the company. He sings songs including Vibe. Namjoon and Taehyung leaves comments.
The next live is on Feb 3 2023, midnight. Jungkook lights up on seeing Jimin's comment. He invites him over to have chicken. But Jimin is busy, on schedule even at midnight.
The next live is on Feb 11 2023. This time its from his boxing gym. Jimin comments. Jungkook and his boxing coach invites him for boxing. From this interaction we get to know that Jikook have the same boxing coach. Later a stalker leaks a video of him at the same gym, training.
The next live is on Feb 28 2023, noon. He deletes his Instagram the same day.
In March, Jimin's busy schedule continues. Jungkook goes live again on March 3 2023.
Jimin flies to NY on March 13 2023 for his promotions. And the next Jungkook live happens on March 14 2023 (White Day). He does 3 lives back to back and something interesting to note is he wears a different outfit for each of these lives. A black jacket for first live, a white shirt for the second and for the last one a purple hoodie. He comes live a fourth time that night and reminds us to look forward to midnight cause something amazing is coming up at midnight. And at midnight Jimin's SMF pt2 teaser is released.
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Now shall we take a look at Jimin's outfits in SMF pt2?
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Yeah. Black jacket, White sweater, Purple Jacket. In that exact order.
On March 23 2023 a day before the release of FACE, Jungkook's live again.
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So, he just had his first guitar lesson so that he could tease "Letter", Jimin's hidden track in FACE for which Jungkook's credited for his background vocals.
Jungkook's the only other artist who was featured for a song in FACE, Jimin's album which Jimin said is too personal and that's why he did not want other artists to feature in it. Guess this does not apply to Jungkook, right???!! Cause Jungkook's an important part of his personal life.
Jungkook comes live again on March 28 2023 to watch Jimin's Suchwita. This is the first time he's watching Yoongi's show. Cause obviously Jimin was the guest this time. He also watches SMF pt2 and other Jimin videos.
Jungkook changed his Weverse profile to Jimin for a split second
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Jungkook's announced as CK's Global Ambassador on March 28 2023.
Jimin does a live on March 29 2023 and Jungkook spams it with 19 comments. This is where he says "I'm Hyung's fan".
At this point, all of Jungkook's March lives had only one intention, to promote his bf's Solo debut. He was so loud and obvious about it.
Jimin goes live on April 3 2023 from his house. If you watch the live you'll notice that there's another gaming chair next to his own (he panicked when he showed it accidentally on camera) which is the same one Jungkook has in his studio. And in my opinion Jimin was not alone at his house. Jungkook's also there with him.
Also, in this live someone comments "I'm Jungkook's wife" to which Jimin's reply is "I think Jungkook's sleeping". Why? Cause Jungkook's sleeping in the next room? I think thats why he's speaking in a low voice. So, that he doesn't disturb his bf who's sleeping in the next room.
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On April 8 2023 Jungkook does a short live where he says he had no intention of doing it. He's seen folding his CK briefs and out of them a red brief is seen which is smaller in size compared to the rest. And in AYS we see Jimin wearing CK briefs. Jimin's usually seen wearing Armani briefs for special events and concerts. He never really wore CKs except for that one photoshoot where BTS collaborated with CK for their LY Tear photoshoot.
On April 18 2023, the day Hoseok enlisted Jikook hint about drinking together the previous day.
On April 25 2023 Jimin leaves to attend the Tiffany Event. At the airport he's seen wearing a Willy Chavarria T-shirt. Willy Chavarria is CK's Senior VP of Menswear Design
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Jungkook comes live the same day Jimin leaves and the first song he plays is "I Really Want To Stay At Your House". During these days when Jimin is in NYC Jungkook posts about his food, attends LV after party with Mingyu, complains about stalkers sending him food on a Weverse post.
Jimin returns to SK on May 6 2023 and Jungkook disappears from social media.
On May 21 2023 Jungkook posts a pic of Bam. On May 23 2023 Jimin leaves for London. At the airport he is seen with a huge scratch on his arm which looks like a dog scratch. On May 24 2023 Jungkook comes live (not surprised right?)
And then we have Jungkook getting busy for his solo debut which again leaves them little time for each other.
We saw how Jungkook altogether avoids the topic of ms when Jimin brings it up in the first episodes of AYS when it was still uncertain if they'll be able to enlist together. And then he takes a 180, starts talking about ms in AYS Jeju when its confirmed that Jikook are enlisting as companion soldiers.
We hear from Jimin in AYS Jeju that he had a sleepover at Jungkook's house the previous day.
So, its obvious that Jikook who were living together prior to Jimin's Solo debut preparations were forced to spent time apart due to their schedules. However, I think they were having a lot of sleepovers at each other's house whenever possible.
I also think one of the main reasons Jungkook was letting us see his house was because he was gonna move out soon. We also got Jimin who let us see some parts of his house during one of his lives. And then we hear that some of Jimin's furnitures from his apartment are seen at his Dad's cafe once he started his ms.
Anon, now as promised I'll answer the first part of your ask.
Yes. I think so. Because thats what they have been doing all these years. Living together and sharing a home. So, I assume that's what they're gonna do once they get back. Now let's wait and see what they'll do once they are back after having served their country.
Have a nice day Anon!
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will always find it so interesting how army made the "jk is a minimoni anti" joke about him being jealous over namjoon....
https://x.com/jklovesjoon/status/1870891537451950488
Oh my god, that video 😬 just… so corny and unfunny. My thing is, why wouldn’t they just make it a namjikook throuple thing - aren’t ARMYs all about poly-BTS? That’s why the ARMYs who make it about only n*mkook are so transparent to me… 👀
Anyways, imo one of the reasons for this is because there’s actually a lot of HL x JM/JK shippers in this fandom who feel a similar way about Jikook as tkkrs do (just not as extreme lol). Maybe 90% of the fandom are shippers & that also includes a lot of HL x ML shippers who operate like, well, shippers. It doesn’t really matter if they think their ship is real or not, it’s still pretty common to feel jealous/resentful when another “rival” ship is getting all the moments they want for their own ship - especially when a lot of BTS shippers are basically Y/N’s who heavily project onto one member of their ship while being infatuated with the other.
This is pretty common in shipping in general, tons of fictional ships have absolutely batshit insane fanwars so it wouldn’t surprise me if there were lots of non-serious BTS shippers who also got weird and dismissive about Jikook out of the same kind of petty jealousy that tkkrs feel. They don’t even have to be a shipper to feel that way tbh, some people are just really attached to the idea of their faves being the closest (and I’m not saying everyone who ships other pairings that involve JM/JK feel this way, plenty are normal and even like jkk, but there’s definitely a large enough group who are super weird about it…)
I think this is one of the reasons why so many Jikook moments get so heavily OT7-ified compared to other duos. The way that the fandom still refers to JK’s JM live as JK’s "BTS content" live is the biggest example of this to me, it’s actually insane. I remember the way the quotes were just full of people talking about how much JK “missed his hyungs” and how he’s “watching BTS content just like me!”. It felt like none of them even acknowledged that it was a Jimin teasing video either, the whole thing was pretty wild. It's sort of the same situation with AYS and the kinds of clips that would circulate ARMY spaces vs the ones that were noticeably absent.
Like, can you imagine how many ARMYs were probably a little bothered by JK saying that the AYS trips were the best of his life? - literally every brand of JK shipper + the really intense OT7 ARMYs who want to think that they’re only happy as seven and have no individuality outside of being a group, hopefully you know the sort of ARMYs I mean, obviously I know JK loves the group and I’m sure the next BV will be very meaningful.
Anyways, sorry for giving you such a long and serious answer to this lmao 😭 it’s a petty rant and not that big of a deal or anything, but it’s just kind of tiring the way this fandom is constantly downplaying jkks bond, picking it apart and making it about other members. It would be nice if they could just give jkk their flowers and celebrate their moments w/out so much obvious jealousy or whatever. And ofc I don’t care what other people ship or if someone wants to make that whole mini/moni thing about nmkook because they ship it, it’s just annoying that those people will pose as non-biased ARMYs and how all of that has really impacted the whole fandom climate & how jikook are treated/talked about. It’s definitely not the end of the world or anything, but it annoys me enough to rant about every now and then lol.
Also, ofc I know there’s plenty of cool non-jkkr ARMYs who do totally appreciate and hype Jikook!! Maybe even the majority of them are totally normal about it, it’s just that there's enough people who are like this that it’s noticeable and annoying.
I was talking about this with someone the other day but - I’m not sure if you know what a “NOTP” is - I’m pretty sure Jikook make up the majority of NOTPs in the fandom lol.
#discourse#ask#anon#jikook#sorry for all the fandom discourse posts 😭#not sure if ppl dislike these sorts of posts in the tag#also the way the vid#doesn't even make sense#bc the videos are JK being jealous OF NJ#not over him#meaning it hints more at jkk? 😭#but ofc they wouldnt understand that#well ill stop#ppl can like what they like#but a lot of armys are annoying because#theyre all biased and shippers but pretend not to be 😭
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Hey I’m new to bts and I love Jikook although I don’t believe they’re a couple yet because. My friend advised me to watch the original bts content before watching the shipper videos because they’re misleading. I’ve been watching all vlives, bang tan bombs, award shows, Bon voyage, and ITS. When I watched all those, I noticed that Jimin gives Tae more attention than any other member, I noticed that Jk gives Jin, and Tae more attention, V gives Jimin and Jhope more attention. I also noticed that the way Jikook communicate is normal and nothing suspicious about it. I then decided to watch Jikook videos because I accidentally watched one when I was searching for Jimin’s song serendipity and came across the Jikook serendipity analysis. I’m now in the rabbit hole. I came across your page and you talked about “the news article that was ready to out Jkk’s relationship back in 2018”. I just wanted to know where you heard that and if there is any proof because I’m a person who doesn’t dwell on conspiracies but rather proof. Another thing, did they really get married because most of the videos mentioned how they got married during their trip to Tokyo. Another thing, are there any pictures of them hangout and living together. Thank you.
You watched BV and noticed Jimin gives V more attention? You watched original content and noticed that JK gives V and Jin more attention?
I am so confused as to what you're talking about. I would bite if u said JK giving Jin more attention but V? What exactly are u watching? Are you sure its not that shipper content that you say you're avoiding? Specifically tkk content? Which ftr you will rarely find Jikook manipulated content. I'm not saying it doesn't exist but its rare. We don't need to manipulate. They give us everything on a silver platter.
I shared the dispatch thing not long before this scroll lower u will see it. No, Jikook are not married. They can't be married. And even if they did it wouldn't be recognised in SK. And at the time of them going to Tokyo, Japan hadn't recognised gay marriage yet. Jikook married as far as I know its something Jikookers like to say coz they act like a married couple. But they have been spotted with matching rings on more than one occasion which is a reason for suspicion.
I already don't like u from your V comment but sure let's look at a few things.
I always bring this up because no one ever talks about it but I honestly love it so much and it really tickled me.
BV season 5 episode 6. Vmin sleep on the bed
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JK makes the bed the next morning. Because Jimin is one spoilt boyfriend, alright? But when Vmon slept on that same bed, JK told them
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JK definitely favoured Jimin over V there anon.
Run BTS episode 71 JK makes a big pancake for Jimin because he had a penalty to do
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The kicker is though, anon. That Jin too was doing the same penalty.
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Why didn't JK make him a pancake too? Doesn't that seem like JK played favourites with Jimin and not Jin? 🤔
In the Soop season 1 episode 6. We found out V asked JK to speak casually with him
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But JK refused because;
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Meanwhile we have him going Jiminah! Jimin! Jiminssi! Everywhere all the time. So again anon, JK refused V one thing but has no issue doing it with Jimin.
Bon voyage season 3 episode 4 after Tkk did laundry they went upstairs and JK only checked on Jimin.
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He did not check on Jin behind him.
At this point I'm just offended that you haven't picked up on my favourite thing about Jikook and that's satellite Jeon/Jikook. You don't even need compilations to see this. Anything you watch. Anything at all. They are always next to eo. Always.
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They're literally always together. And JK always chooses Jimin. Not V and not Jin. Not anyone else. No matter what you watch.
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Me thinks you need to rewatch what you already did because you missed everything.
Like Mizgator said, you're blind if you don't see it
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#ask shaz#bts ask#satellite jeon#jimin and jungkook#jikook#kookmin#minkook#jimin#jungkook#bts#park jimin#jeon jungkook#if jikook isn't real then neither am i#jikook is real#jikook analysis#run jikook#bon voyage jikook
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I can't stop thinking about something the last few days. I was watching BTS content:
the RUN episode where they have to name the celebrities from their pics
the video where jk is following Tae around the waiting room to take his pic
the video where Tae hugs Jk to ask for forgiveness because he gifted him the Tae fans
(I mention them just as an example) and couldn't help but notice HOW MANY people were there! Like, more than 20 staff, 4-5 cameras minimum and some of them IN their faces. I know that the members have grown up and got used to it by now, but really, how can we expect them to act all natural and behave like no one is watching? I am not saying they are fake, but come on, this is a tiny - posed part of who they really are. To be honest if I had a secret affair with someone I would barely interact with them in a situation like this. The slip ups we have all these years are a miracle imo.
Hi anon!
I do think it is important to think about what BTS's perspective on these situations is. We tend to use our own lives and ideas about 'normalcy' as a point of reference, but our lives are nothing like that of BTS. What's normal to them is outlandish to us. BTS have most likely actually trained for different types of social settings (mediatraining). They have trained how to behave and how to answer and interact. So part of what they do is learned behavior. The way they evade certain questions for example, as well as playing up some things (as a means to excite people) and playing down some things (emotions, opinions). Being BTS is their job. Entertaining us is their job, so a certain amount of exageration and toning down is to be expected. Whenever they are having an off day, they will try not to show that to the full extent.
However, within those boundaries.. they can still be themselves. It's just a different version of themselves adjusted to the specific social setting they are in. I see it more as not showing the extremities of their characters.
I actually feel that we see a lot of how they really are. I'm fully aware that there's a lot that we don't see and know, but to me their characters and honest interactions have always shone through. I think for me it's mostly that I feel they hide the specifics of their lives (factual stuff like relationships, friendships, events and outings, etc). I think the more subjective stuff (like emotions, reactions, interactions) is often very real.
The way BTS has made RUN, ITS, BV, and all sorts of interviews really to me shows how genuine they are amongst each other. Because they don't miss a beat while reacting to each other. I think that is also why so many of us see what's between Tae and Jk as real. They don't miss a beat during interactions. They might pull back and hesitate after processing something, but their initial responses to each other speak of huge intimacy. Tae and Jk did not have to hide that they are close. A lot of people around them have only ever known them to be close, even from before they presumably got together. So while performing, or taping footage, or getting ready they don't have to hide being close. They can still hug, they can still touch, they can still talk and joke and whatever. They can't kiss, or talk about their relationship, and there's possibly some other aspects of their relationship that they would have to tone down, but then again it's normal to do that while you're working anyways.
They have basically grown into adulthood with having a huge team around. They are able to sleep in a room full of people. They are at their most vulnarable (sleeping, undressed, emotional) in rooms full of people. When you go through that on an almost daily basis.. your perspective on situations like that changes.
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I was reading your asks and this made me pause. I am strictly a Tae solo but I like other members too. Earlier my go to content was bh cameras. Not smart ik, so I also assumed taekook was not very close because in that talk Jungkook looked awkward when he was giving that interview. It looked weird but I was like oh well. I was new to the fandom mind you. Took me a while but I started watching fan cams, old videos and it was hard to digest why such good friends before 2016/2017 I think became so awkward with each other. I did a little digging and I found bh camera shows and bombs don't even show them together and if they do it's brief or awkward. In fact earlier bv showed Tae to be a villian tbh. It boils my blood when I see bh treating Tae. This solo era literally confused me so much because I came to realise taekook were so much together and involved in each other activities and I thought they were just loosing their awkwardness. My theory was jihopekook were besties. I really don't understand why bh don't like to show taekook together on their cameras? And why taekook like different in bh cameras (aloof, awkward) than public cameras (very close and comfortable). What was the need to show both of them in that talk and with their shady subs? If they really wanted to show depression thing shouldn't Jimin be the ideal choice? It's in his nature to comfort people as well bh has assigned that role to him especially with maknae line. Vmin could have bonded because we have also seen changes in their friendship. I think it made more sense with all their soulmate bs. I just don't understand what bh made them show taekook (one of the most popular duo) awkward rather than capitalising them. Because of their ass hattery Tae gets dragged everytime he shows even an ounce of connection to Jungkook.
Sorry for the long rant. Just been seeing Tae getting dragged on x due to some nonsense and it renews my hate for bh.
Hi! I hope my reply made you pause in a positive way and not in a negative one.
I’m gonna start saying “And why taekook like different in bh cameras (aloof, awkward) than public cameras (very close and comfortable).” that I don’t agree with this part because to me they don’t act awkward on camera, idk if it’s because I’ve been in the fandom for years but I think they act very normally, but the subs, the cuts, the context could lead to misunderstandings.
I think that they just showed that talk to grasp an opportunity, because everyone noticed the lack of footage and bh used that occasion to say “look it’s because they weren’t close before” when it’s really not true, like before ITS, in an award ceremony Tae leaned on Jk because he was tired (I think everyone knows what clip I’m talking about). I used this as an example, but I could say million other things that happened in 2020 to show that the “awkward duo” is a narrative pushed by bh and cult freaks.
#ignore the people on twt they’re airheads and they’re jealous of taehyung they want his validation#ask#taekook#taehyung#jungkook
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I know this might sound silly but did you notice JM playing with his left hand ring finger today during the live? Watch it from 28:42 - 29:10. I noticed cause sometimes I have to remove my wedding ring & I'll tend to mess with that finger cause I often play with my ring out of habit or feel weird when its gone. I need to go back & rewatch, just to see if he was scratching his hand, but it looked like at one point, he kept messing with that particular finger. So did JK put a ring on it? wink
Lol anon. Vlive here:
Finally has subs up too for anyone who didn't know! Honestly, he looked like he was rubbing at his whole hand briefly there too before he was around his fingers. I think it was just random fidgety hand movements.
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But even if it WAS a habit of playing with rings and now there aren't any rings.... let's keep in mind that Jimin loves accessories and tends to wear ALOT of rings on a pretty consistent basis.
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The man's hands are bedazzled and decked out OFTEN lol pay attention to his night stands and dressers during things like BV or in concert DVDs when they sometimes off show their hotel rooms. The piles of rings that get collected there is intense 😂 so no, it's probably not the thought to have when you think Jimin might be wanting to twist a ring out of habit is that he isn't wearing his engagement/wedding band. Probably just a habit from one of the 100s of rings he already has and wears 😂😂
But like I said before, it looks to me like just fidgety hands more than a want to fidget with a missing ring anyway. But that's just me! Thanks anyway for the ask! Sorry we don't agree 💜💜
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I want to see if anyone else went through this. When I started checking out BTS, I found Taekook videos and watched them. I'm a curious person and it was the start of covid-19, so for about a month I think I was a Taekooker and I felt like I had consumed every theory, analysis and piece of information I could find on them. I think I wasn't intrigued by the rest of it, and I started watching RUN and BV so that took my time. Still I was looking for clues, thinking I could see if there was really something there. Instead I ended up noticing that JK and JM were really close, which wasn't hard. I'm JK biased and I focus on him alot. I payed more attention to them and found out more stuff about them and it was kind of apparent to me they're more likely to be a couple, really natural and attuned to each other. So I get confused and kind of fascinated when I see Taekookers being very adamant Jikook are fake but still hanging on to TK. I have been in the fandom for more than a year now, and all I see TKers doing is being angry and sad all the time over the lack of moments and proofs. Sometimes I find tweets and threads from 2017, 2018, 2019 complaining about the same stuff and lack of moments and evidence that they complain about today. Word for word. I'm like what are they still hanging on for if it's something that has no real proof and is actually making them miserable and toxic? I rationalize that maybe it's because I saw the full picture on both sides, and I didn't have YEARS of investment in the ship, I wasn't attached to it in a way, nor did I have any prejudice against JM, the way so many tkkrs seem to have. Sometimes they act like they're shipping TK and hating on Jikook/Jimin JUST because Jimin seems like real competition and threat, as in he realistically could be with JK. It's more real so it means less room to fantasize and project. Jikook threaten their desire to have JK for themselves, like the "love triangle" where JK is tugged between Tae and JM awoken some unhealthy possessiveness in them. Also, I feel like JM has a strong dominant personality + he is clear and persistent on things he cares about (JK) which rubs them the wrong way because in a way, it means JM gets more of JK, for real compared to anyone, and they have less control over JK. Alot of K-pop fans do want a sense of ownership and control over idols, let's be honest. These fans seem to expect a certain image from JK and want him to act a certain way. When he doesn't, they get angry (taking it out on JM/Jikook). Example, not feeding them with TK moments. Meanwhile TK are more farfetched, require more conspiracy theories, and suspension of belief which allows more room for fantasization, imagiantion, dubiousness - like deep down they know TK can't be real and that makes shipping them easier. They can pretend so it palacates the fear of the possiblity of Tae and JK being in any real relationship. I find so weirder how I always came accross TK shipper proclaiming they were against "homosexuality" until TK made them see it was ok or that they're against it unless for TK which also means alot of these people are homophobic and harmful and are really in it for the possessive fantasies.
I have noticed that for tkkrs it doesn't matter what the reality is, what matters is the reality in their minds, and there taekook is real. That's all that matters. That is the only "truth" they accept. Why they continue to ship taekook, I don't know. habit, stubbornness or like I said, they believe it to be true. That it's real. They have an excuse for everything. why Jungkook and Tae don't spend time together, why you don't see the same complicity between them that you see in jikook or vmin. In their story there are two bad guys that don't allow tkk to be happy: Jimin and BHM.
They really prefer to live in their invented reality. They prefer to use edited photos that originally are Jimin and Jungkook, but someone replaced Jimin's face with Tae's, instead of using real photos of Taekook that exist. They prefer to call Jungkook and Tae liars instead of believing what they say. They prefer to insult them by saying that they are being forced to do or not do something, just to fit into their made up reality.
The last part of your message is problematic and worrying, and would honestly explain some things.
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Okay. I wanted to revisit this (x) ask to talk about the topic of “disconnect” a little more. I’m going to do it very briefly, and anyone can feel free to disagree with me. I’m sharing anyway.
So, I tend to not get hung up over one video. Or one moment. Or even recent things? Because, let’s just say we watch a video where Vmin don’t have many interactions. Maybe it’s in a Run BTS episode or during an interview. They don’t always have to go out of their way to interact with each other, and just because we don’t see them interacting (especially during Run episodes, or other heavily edited shows such as BV is ITS), doesn’t mean they didn’t interact at all during filming.
As an example, I think it was in a Run episode that Jimin(?) ended up saying that he and Taehyung were watching the stars at night during BV2 in Hawaii. (note to self: find source link later) Sure. We didn’t see it. And we only have Jimin’s words to go off of. But, they spend a number of days at their vacation destination, and we don’t even get a full 24 hours worth of content. They aren’t TV show characters or cartoon characters. They are real people. Their lives go on when the cameras aren’t running, and the things that get edited out (that were filmed, but we’ll never see) actually happened. That being said, a majority of what happens, even during filming will never be seen by us. The only time you can possibly get a full unedited event is during a live show. And fancams of them on stage don’t necessarily count because different angles will tell you different stories.
Moving on to my main point. The reason I don’t think there’s anything weird going on, and try to read too much into things based on what little we get to see is simple. Let’s look back at 2017(?) or 18(?) vmin when everyone cried they weren’t close. We’ve had BV every year (except last, but we got ITS) since 2016. (BELOW THE CUT) (didn’t I say this was going to be breif? 😅)
Europe - 2016
Hawaii - 2017
Malta - 2018
New Zealand - 2019
ITS - 2020
So the reason I was never bothered and affected by those “worries” was literally because of BV, and other small moments we did get to see. Because I know that we don’t possibly get to see everything, but it doesn’t invalidate the moments that obviously show us they are close and okay. And if it’s just one small moment, it means everything. Their relationship doesn’t become more insignificant just because of what we get to see through editing and them putting on a show because they’re working.
In 2016, we had Jimin wanting to eat with Taehyung when he joined the group, but Taehyung wanted to eat seafood with SJ & JK. Him wanting to eat a particular food doesn’t mean he and Jimin aren’t close ffs. They kept in touch the entire time Taehyung was still in Korea filming. If Taehyung didn’t care about Jimin, he would have ignored him or been keeping in touch with another member instead. Later, we have Jimin calling Tae, more in a panic about him being lost than Taehyung himself. When they thought Taehyung’s bag was missing and they’d have to send him home? Watch BV1, and at that part, watch Jimin. See how upset he looks. He just got his best friend with him in Europe, and now he thinks he’s going to lose him again. Notice how he doesn’t participate so much when they start the prank on Taehyung. Because he’s just happy Tae doesn’t have to go, and he doesn’t want to give it away. I mean, this is just my assumption on this part, but it doesn’t seem unreasonable.
In 2017, we have Taehyung and Jimin watching the stars at night in Hawaii. Sure, we don’t get to see it. But we know that it happened because Jimin said so. And without reason to believe he’s lying about it, we have no reason not to accept that as the truth. Then we have the letter Taehyung wrote to Jimin and them being all sentimental about it. Taehyung had to ask if the letters were going to be read out loud, so it’s likely there were things he wanted to say that he didn’t include in the letter. Jimin said that he really understood Taehyung when he heard the letter, and no one (not even the members) could understand why Taehyung cried while reading the letter. And any fan who tries to analyze and tell you why. I wouldn’t give their theory an ounce of thought. Because if Jimin thinks not even the members understand, how can we possibly understand? I promise you there’s no theory out there good enough to be the truth behind Vmin.
In 2018...do I even have to go there? Just look at them during BV. I did a whole ass analysis about this (x), but there’s a lot more that can be said. Jimin was upset, again, obviously, that Taehyung didn’t join them right away. He’s clearly upset (and looks like he wants to cry) when they accidentally order 7 sandwiches for the members as if Taehyung is with them. He was so happy when Taehyung arrived that they held hand, no only across Namjoon’s lap, but on his shoulder, too. Jimin didn’t get to hug him until the end of their lunch, but you can bet he was sitting there waiting for the moment to do so. After Taehyung arrives, they are basically glued to each other, and Jimin goes to see and do the same things he did before because he wants to do them with Taehyung. That speaks volumes for how much he cares about Taehyung, and it shows how valuable Taehyung’s presence is to him. Taehyung could have done the things with any other member who hadn’t done the things yet, but it was Jimin who visited the same places. He even said that he was thinking about the things Taehyung would like while he was doing them, such as looking at the moon (because Taehyung likes the night views).
In 2019? In New Zealand? Don’t even get me started on this one. We have the moments where they slept together, pretty much by choice. Jimin didn’t look upset when Hoseok basically gave him permission to sleep with Taehyung in the camper. Then we later have Jimin giving up the room he wanted because the person he shares the room with was more important, and he wanted to sleep with Taehyung. He didn’t have to. He could have went with the room he wanted. But he chose to take the room with Taehyung. And, of course, we have my most favorite vmin moment of all time. Their horse date. Jimin could have done anything he wanted that day, but he chose to go with Taehyung. He didn’t even want to ride the horse. He wanted to go because he wanted to be with Taehyung, and no one can prove me wrong. If he wanted to ride a bike, why he didn’t go somewhere that was more bike-friendly? Such as a biking trail. Those exists. And they have the perfect terrain for mountain bikes. And I’m sure New Zealand has its fair share of biking trails. But he didn’t. Instead, he went with Taehyung. To a field. (Also, he didn’t say he wanted to ride a bike. He said he wanted to go with Taehyung “but (he) doesn’t wan’t to ride the horse”)
And then we have 2020. In the SOOP. There are a lot of moments in here. You have moments where they were playing together, singing together, and even in bed together. They said they wanted to sleep together, though I’m not sure why that didn’t end up happening. We can talk about theories all day, but I don’t think anyone of us knows the truth. They spent a lot of time together during in the SOOP. It’s more recent, so I don’t want to post too many spoilers for those who haven’t gotten the chance to see it.
So. To sum up all of this. The reason I don’t ever worry too much or read too much into things is because of all this. I can’t say shit about things we don’t get to see if we never even get to hear about it. If there’s a moment of tension between Vmin (I’ve talked about at least one before) we can point out how, at that moment, they seem to be tense and probably have a current issue. But anyone who honestly thinks a small moment of tension is indication of any more serious issues (such as them secretly hating each other) obviously doesn’t have a best friend, or s/o, or sibling, or parent. Because every person you’re close to is a person you get irritated at once in a while. If you never get irritated with them, how do you know you’re close? It’s when we get over things that bother us with our loved ones that prove how much we love them.
Call it confirmation bias if you will, but it’s things like BV and other small moments we get to see that assure me Vmin are as close as can be. Because they’re moments that actually happen, and a year’s worth of edited content that might make it seem like they don’t talk to each other or they’re “weird” doesn’t change the moments that we do get to see. It doesn’t invalidate them. It doesn’t make them less significant. It doesn’t make them non-existent. And go ahead and say that’s me hanging onto a thread. Because one day, there’ll be another moment. And I’ll say, “I told you so.”
The most important thing we have to remember is that we don’t get to see everything. And...I mean. Does it makes sense when I say I can’t talk about a moment they don’t interact, but the moments they do make it clear that they care about each other a lot?
I hope this answers your ask better than the first time I attempted.
Also. Note how the members tend to ask Jimin when they want to know what Taehyung is up to.
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I Like to Watch | Zack Snyder’s Justice League
by Don Hall
Mythology is fun.
As a kid I loved reading Edith Hamilton’s book on the Greek gods and the myths. Hercules, Perseus, Apollo, and Hera—this fell completely in line with my love for superhero comics. The strangely petty human traits of envy, greed, and lust combined with the power to level cities make for some great storytelling.
Zeus was basically Harvey Weinstein in the retroactive revision we’re mired in today. If Harvey could’ve changed into a golden animal and boned unsuspecting ladies looking for careers in Hollywood I’m pretty certain he would. The gods and demi-gods of the Greeks dealt with daddy issues, mommy issues, bad relationships, and fighting. Lots of fighting. Sometimes for the good of humanity but more often for the glory of winning.
Zach Snyder is in the business of tackling myths and reframing them with a style all his own. His career has become its own myth.
From Dawn of the Dead (not so much a reboot of Romero's zombie mythology but a philosophical reimagining of the genre that arguably jumpstarted The Hollywood fascination with it), 300��(a borderline homoerotic take on the myth of the Greek underdog), and Watchmen (a ridiculously ambitious attempt to put one of the most iconic takedowns on the potential fascism of the superhero legend machine ever written) to his nearly single-handed hack at answering the Marvel juggernaut with Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice, Snyder is in the artistic business of subverting and re-envisioning the mythologies we embrace without even seeing them as such.
Snyder's style is operatic. It is on a grand scale even in the most mundane moments. The guy loves slow motion like Scorcese loves mobsters and Italian food. When you're tackling big themes with larger than life stories, the epic nature of his vision makes sense and has alienated a good number of audience members. With such excess, there are bound to be missteps but I'd argue that his massive take on these characters he molds from common understanding and popular nomenclature elevates them to god-like stature.
Fans of Moore's Watchmen have much to complain about Snyder's adaptation. The titular graphic novel is almost impossible to put in any other form than the one Moore intended and yet, Snyder jumped in feet-first and created a living, breathing representation of most, if not all, of the source material's intent. Whether you dig on it or not, it's hard to avoid acknowledging that the first five minutes of Watchmen is a mini-masterpiece of style, storytelling, and epic tragedy wrapped up in a music video.
Despite a host of critical backlash for his one fully original take, Sucker Punch is an amazing thing to see. More a commentary on video game enthusiasm with its lust for hot animated chicks and over-the-top violence that a celebration of cleavage and guns, the film is crazily entertaining. For those who hated the ending, he told you in the title what his plan was all along.
The first movie I saw in the theaters that tried to take a superhero mythology and treat it seriously (for the most part) was Richard Donner's Superman: The Movie. Never as big a fan of the DC characters as I have been of Marvel, it was still extraordinary to see a character I had only really known in pages to be so fully realized. Then came Burton's Batman movies. The superhero film was still an anomaly but steam was gaining. Things changed with Bryan Singer's X-Men in 2000, then Raimi's Spiderman, and those of us who grew up with our pulpy versions of Athena, Hermes, and Hades were rewarded with Nolan's Batman Begins. A far cry from the tongue-in-cheek camp of the 1966 TV Batman, Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne was a serious character and his tale over three films is a tragic commentary filled with the kind of death and betrayal and triumph befitting the grand narrative he deserved.
I loved Singer's Superman Returns in 2006 because it was such a love letter to the 1978 film (down to the opening credits) but by then, the MCU was taking over the world.
Snyder's first of what turns out to be an epic storyline involving perhaps seven or eight movies was Man of Steel. It was fun and, while I had my issues with the broodiness of Kal El, the odd take on Jonathan Kent, and a redheaded Lois Lane, I had no issue with Superman snapping Zod's neck. Darker and more tragic than any other version of the Kryptonian, it was still super entertaining.
Then came Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. By 2016, Marvel had codified their formula of serious characters wrestling with serious issues of power and responsibility peppered with lots of good humor and bright colors. Snyder's desaturated pallete and angst-filled demi-gods was not the obvious road to financial competition.
I'll confess, I hated it. BvS felt half-rendered. Lex Luthor was kind of superficial and played as a kind of Joker. The whole Bruce Wayne wants to kill Superman thing felt undeveloped and the "Martha" moment was just stupid.
When Joss Whedon's version of Snyder's Justice League came out in 2017, I was primed for it to be a turd and I wasn't surprised. So much of it didn't work on any level. I dismissed it as DC trying and failing miserably and was comforted by the coming of Thanos.
Following Thanos and the time heist was COVID. Suddenly, we were internationally sidelined and the movie theater industry caved in. Streaming services started popping up like knock-off smartphones and Hollywood was reeling, doing anything and everything to find a way back. Since Whedon's disastrous helming of Snyder's third act, fans online had been demanding to #ReleasetheSnyderCut but no one was ever really taking them seriously until all movie production was shut down for a year.
The stage was set to remedy a mistake (or at least make some bucks on a do-over of a huge box office failure). Snyder had left the production in part because of the suicide of his daughter and in part due to the constant artistic fights over executives looking for the quippy fun of the MCU but he still had all the original footage. Add to that the broiling accusations that Joss Whedon was "abusive" during the reshoots, the path seemed destined. For an additional $70 million and complete control, Snyder delivered a four hour mega-movie streamed on HBOMax.
Of course, I was going to watch the thing as soon as I could.
The Whedon version opens with an homage to the now dead Superman (including the much maligned digitally erased mustache on Henry Cavill). The SynderCut opens with the death of Superman and the agony of his death scream as it travels across the planet. It's a simple change but exemplifies the very different visions of how this thing is gonna play out.
Snyder doesn't want us to be OK with the power of these beings unleashed. He wants us to feel the damage and pain of death. He wants the results of violence to be as real as he can. When Marvel's Steve Rogers kicks a thug across the room and the thug hits a wall, he crumples and it is effectively over. When Batman does the same thing, we see the broken bones (often in slow motion) and the blood smear on the wall as the thug slides to the ground.
The longer SnyderCut is bloated in some places (like the extended Celtic choir singing Aquaman off to sea or the extended narrations by Wonder Woman which sound slightly like someone trying to explain the plot to Siri). On the other hand, the scene with Barry Allen saving Iris West is both endearing and extraordinary, giving insight to the power of the Flash as well as some essential character-building in contrast to Whedon's comic foil version.
One thing I noticed in this variant is that Zach wants the audience to experience the sequence of every moment as the characters do. An example comes when Diana Prince goes to the crypt to see the very plot she belabors over later. The sequence is simple. She gets a torch and goes down. Most directors which jump cut to the torch. Snyder gives us five beats as she grabs the timber, wraps cloth around the end, soaks it with kerosene, pulls out a box of matches, and lights the torch. Then she goes down the dark passageway.
The gigantic, lush diversity of Snyder’s vision of the DC superhero universe—from the long shots of the sea life in the world of Atlantis to the ancient structures and equipment of Themyscira— is almost painterly. Snyder isn't taking our time; he's taking his time. We are rewarded our patience with a far better backstory for the villain, a beautifully rendered historic battle thwarting Darkseid's initial invasion (including a fucking Green Lantern), and answers to a score of questions set up in both previous films.
Whedon's Bruce Wayne was more Ben Affleck; Snyder's is full-on Frank Miller Batman, the smartest, most brutal fucker in the room. Cyborg, instead of Whedon's sidelined non-character, is now a Frankenstein's monster, grappling with the trade-off between acceptance and enormous power. Wonder Woman is now more in line with the Patty Jenkins version and instead of being told about the loss of Superman, we are forced to live with the anguish of both his mother and Lois Lane in quiet moments of incredible grief.
To be fair to Whedon (something few are willing to do as he is now being castigated not for racism or sexism but for being mean to people) having him come in to throw in some levity and Marvel-esque color to Snyder's Wagnerian pomposity is like hiring Huey Lewis to lighten up Pink Floyd's The Wall or getting Douglas Adams to rewrite Cormac McCarthy's The Road.
I loved Snyder's self-indulgent, mythologic DC universe.
So much so that I then re-watched Man of Steel and then watched the director's version of BvS (which Snyder added approximately 32 minutes). The second film is far better at three hours and Eisenberg's Lex Luthor now makes sense. Then I watched Zach Snyder's Justice League a second time.
After nineteen hours of Snyder's re-imagining of these DC heroes and villains, I saw details that, upon first viewing, are ignored or dismissed, but after seeing them in order and complete, are suddenly consistent and relevant. Like Nolan or Fincher, Snyder defies anyone to eliminate even one piece of his narrative no matter how long. With all the pieces, this is an epic story and the pieces left at the extended epilogue play into a grander narrative we will never see.
Or maybe we will. Who knows these days?
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Hi I m a hardcore vmin shipper. But recently i watched a vkook video to compare and it was an analysis video in which they say that actually vkook are sharing a room in their new dorm and trying to hide it and it seemed very real and i have been very upset. There are lots of moments made sense like jk's henna tattoo in malta, v showing ILY symbol behind his back to sick JK on burn the stage, them sharing a room and even blanket in malta, Jk's dog being in making video of winter bear. I m confuse
I would to know the thoughts of a fellow vminie on this. Please do respond since i am literally breaking apart at the thought of vmin being just a cover for vkook.
Hi, I think you might be the same person who just sent me another similar ask about this, and I added the end of that ask which had one more thing that this ask didn’t. I hope that’s ok.
First of all I am sorry that you feel so sad about this… There is a certain emotional danger with getting too involved with shipping and especially seeing a ship as real in a romantic way, as it can set you up for a lot of struggle with your feelings about the members and their relationships.
Before anything else what I want to say is that Vmin’s bond is lovely and special and they truly love each other. Even if it’s platonic or even if they are together with someone else nothing is going to change that. That’s why the best thing to do if possible is to simply love them and support them without having a need for it to be something “more”. Especially since it’s unlikely we would ever find out even if a ship is real. So regarding the extra part of your question, namely “vmin being a cover for vkook” I really don’t see how that is possible or at the very least how that makes Vmin’s moments any less real.
Here’s my take on this issue, no matter which ships. If a ship is real I don’t think it makes sense to hide them by faking another gay ship. The only way I think this can to some extent be possible is if it comes from the members themselves and they for example do a lot of fanservice (which is still genuine) with all or many members to not make one person stand out. Even so I think the members do show that they do a lot of both genuine and more played up (but still on their own terms because they enjoy it) fanservice. Basically what I am saying is that even if a ship that isn’t Vmin is real it doesn’t make Vmin fake. They are not a cover up, they do the things they do because they enjoy it and they certainly love each other.
As for the part about tae/kook I know what analysis you are talking about even though it’s been a while since I watched them.
Nothing in any analysis I have ever seen has had anything we can call proof. Because even if all those things you mention are true the meaning behind those things is all just speculation. Who says Tae and JK can’t do these things platonically? Just like people argue about weird things for other ships, even if we can prove something has happened or is real, we can’t know if there is a romantic purpose or not. Like with the hand gesture (and tattoo of it), it could just be a platonic inside “joke” for example. Or a way to show support for each other. Like a secret language it could be special between them, but even so it still doesn’t have to be romantic. They also have their handshake which has the same gesture (ILY in sign language) and we have seen Taehyung teaching Jimin this. Also if it’s some sort of secret signal to JK, what’s the point if JK is turned away and can’t see it? Then it doesn’t even really count as a secret sign because JK can’t receive it.
You have JK and Jimin doing the “You are me and I am you” which shippers see in one way but which easily just could be an inside joke. Likewise the hand sign could be something JK and Tae does, and maybe it is to show love and support, but does it have to be romantic? If all ships have weird things about them, how are we supposed to know what everything means? We can’t, which is why I think using the word “proof” which is kind of ridiculous to begin with. Who decides what is romantic or not? Only the individual shipper, which means it’s always going to be biased and remain a speculation until they actually say something (which they probably would never do).
As for the part about sharing a room I thought it was said that JK and Taehyung both sleeps in the living room, but with a wall between them, aka sharing room but not really? Which explains the same floor and saying they have rooms “next to each other” etc. It also seems recently that they might be spending less time in the dorm in general. But to be fair as I said I have not watched any shipping analysis in a while so there might be more proof of them sharing and hiding it. Who knows. But even if they do sleep in the same room (a claim basically all shippers try to add to their ship) again it doesn’t have to be romantic. BTS could simply be that close and like to be that close but choses to keep it lowkey, perhaps because of the shippers. I mean, Jimin, JK and Tae all slept basically naked together on Jimin’s first day in the dorm, I am sure they are way beyond what most people see as normal boundaries by this point.
Also when it comes to sharing rooms people really seem to magically ignore Vmin who has many times showed that they like and want to share a room. Just look at Bon Voyage. If you say JK and Tae sharing in Malta and using the same blanket was a big deal, what makes it different to what Vmin did now in BV4?
In Malta there are 3 reasons I believe Vmin truly wanted to share a room. First, Jimin is excited and interested in where Tae will end up even before he gets there. Second when Tae arrives he asks about the rooms and tries to find clues and Jimin spills some beans by far being the most invested in Taehyung’s room situation, Jimin also asks if Tae wants to share with him. And third they say it straight out and it looks very genuine to me. The reason Tae went to JK’s room at least to me looks like it’s because he misinterpreted Jimin.
Because I think if they both knew they wanted to share then Tae probably assumed that when Jimin said “you can’t look” about the room upstairs he was trying to stop Tae from picking that room because Jimin wasn’t in it. Basically I think Jimin screwed over himself and made Tae believe the upper floor couldn’t be Jimin’s. I really don’t think they are that good actors to fake the interest at several points during the trip and that whole choosing room moment just to cover for Tae/kook. Not to mention how glued together they were. So at least to me I don’t doubt that they really wanted to share. Why make that up? If there was no problem with Tae/kook sharing the whole part with Vmin messing around just becomes unnecessary.
On top of that we have Vmin actually confirming sharing a hotel room as late as march 2017 (though they didn’t show it initially but fans noticed Tae’s slipper in a Jimin tweet) and we have Tae telling us about going to sleep with Jimin when he had a bad dream. He seems very consistent with his lie of preferring to share a room with Jimin, which makes me think it’s not a lie.
In fact, once we start doubting everything the boys say and do as fake or covering up then basically everything can be fake or a cover up. Then the ILY sign can be done just to confuse people into thinking Tae/kook is real etc. You see the problem? All ships have weird moments, but they mostly become weird because people assume they are romantic and that they are hiding because they are together, which they don’t have to be. There could be other reasons behind the things they do and I don’t want to question every little thing they do and not trust them when they say something. For me if they are lying to us I think it makes more sense to not tell us things rather than fake and make up things that they probably wouldn’t be able to fake and keep track of.
In the recent season of BV Vmin also slept together three times, and I think that’s what they wanted as Tae picks the bunk bed knowing Jimin had picked the one under when he could have chosen the same room as JK. Same in the last house, they didn’t have to share because the order wasn’t for who they were with but simply in what order they would get to pick. If Jimin picked a room then Tae could have picked another one. In both cases Vmin also slept very close and shared blankets. So maybe it’s just not a big deal for maknae line in general?
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Vmin has shared a room at times when they didn’t have to by choice so I think if we look at things we know and not at what people speculate about there is a good case to be made for Vmin really liking to share rooms. In fact they are some of few members in general that has said that they want to share with a specific person. Also in the Canada episode when they all end up in the same room then why is JK so incredibly happy about getting to share with Jin? Or JK sharing with Hobi and basically cuddling doesn’t mean anything, but Tae and JK sharing a blanket does? To me I think it’s because when so many people say it and see it, and when it looks “suspicious”, it creates room for such a narrative. But when it comes to Tae/kook in general, even though I don’t know of course, it always seemed to me that Tae has favored Jimin above JK in various ways, and that’s not something I think they would be able to fake, especially not for many many years.
As for the last one about the Winter Bear MV and Gureum possibly being the dog, I say possibly because I am not 100% it is the same dog, they were at the same location as for their Summer package, so even so it wouldn’t be weird if another member came along.
But as for the dog the reason I am unsure it even is that dog is because the snout seem much longer on the dog in the Winter Bear making. It honestly looks like a different kind of breed both in body shape, nose shape, ears and type of fur. But it is difficult to tell because of the angles and also because the pictures are old and Gureum could have gotten fatter or gotten his fur trimmed etc.
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Either way, again, why does this indicate romance between V/kook? For me Taehyung’s behaviour towards Jimin is the biggest reason I think about Vmin being possible and that’s also one of the reasons why Tae/kook always have made the least sense out of the three maknae line ships.
All this being said, who knows. I don’t think you should put too much focus and hope into any ship being real but rather enjoy their bonds and be open to whatever could be the truth.
95z is love, that’s real no matter what. Love isn’t a competition where we as fans place our bets on the most likely romance like it’s some sort of fanfiction or drama. All we can do is support our boys and whomever they may choose to love. I want to point out again that this is not a blog to prove Vmin, but that I do find things about them odd or suspicious at times, but the same can be said about other ships too, so I’m not going to tell you Tae/kook is impossible, because it isn’t. Personally I think it’s less likely than Vmin, but I know I can be wrong and that’s fine.
I don’t know if this post will bring any comfort, but I want to try and be as honest as I can. Hope you can feel better and love Vmin no matter what.
Thank you everyone who read this and don’t get disappointed or angry with me. 95z is love!
#vmin#vmin analysis#bts shipping#btsandvmin#btsandvmin answers#btsandvmin ask#jimin#taehyung#my post#bon voyage 3#bon voyage#bon voyage season 4#bon voyage season 3
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Stupid BTS (JiKook) Thoughts No One Asked for
**These are all half-cooked theories/observations. I don’t know them, anything about them, their sexuality, their relationship status, anything. Just food for thought**
-that one v-live from ~ages~ ago, like when they were first starting out where little Jimin has black hair and a jersey on, he says ‘Ah, to be surrounded by women’ and I don’t think I’ve ever heard a straight guy say that seriously (but a not straight one trying to overcompensate to fit in...yes)
-In Bon Voyage I’ve noticed a lot of the Jikook moments come from behind the scene cams, so they’re not included in the main narrative so to speak, which is a conscious choice on BigHit’s part
-The main visible part of JK’s tattoos are ARMY so it’s interesting that they cover that up
-BUT then again he also literally has JM tattooed on his hand soooo
-(also that lands on the ring finger which I know is just how ARMY is spelt but Shhhhh)
-In Bon Voyage 4 Jimin seems to be putting in more effort to spend time with Tae (remember Tae’s v-live where Tae said Jimin wanted to come hang out with him but JK said no) and stuff like that so perhaps they had a friendship talk about how to manage that
-J-Hope seems to the be JiKook ambassador and I’m all for it
-In Run BTS or Bon Voyage recently (in like the past two years) whenever JiKook does something really loud a lot of the time the next shot Jin is literally wedged between them. Poor Jin lol but also BigHit...I see you
-I personally find it just a bit invasive that on the Run BTS and Bon Voyage they add captions like they know what the guys are thinking. It frames viewers to see them in a certain way which yeah all media does but when the caption sometimes contrasts the words it’s just unsettling ya know?
-It’s interesting that Jimin (guess my bias lol I’m sorry) really wanted to appear muscly and masculine at their start. I mean they all did, that was the trend but the way he talked about it (especially because now he presents in more feminine styles sometimes) it seemed like an over compensation for something (like his height but also a lot of not straight guys try to look really masc. to hide) (not that non straight guys can’t just prefer to appear masc. but especially in teenage/young boys closeted guys tend to over compensate with masc.)
-the fact that in the latest G.C.F (also can we just talk about that there’s the word closet, as in coming out of the closet in JK’s own film company) as it gradually becomes saturated Jimin is the only one wearing a bright color (and it’s VERY bright) (also red which this is really a reach but like red is the romance color)
-(this is from MizGator’s YouTube analysis) all the songs JK has chosen to be in his GFC films use either male or neutral pronouns never ‘she’ which tbh is really hard to find a song sung by a guy and not use ‘she’ pronouns and he’s found multiple
-i cannot stress enough Jk CLIMBED UP A MOUNTAIN AT DAWN TO GET JIMIN A CHUNK OF SNOW. WHAT.
-It seems like the boys have realized how valuable they are to the company so they get to be more in charge of their lives (not having to do challenges they’re really afraid of, driving themselves, etc.)
-Get BTS better security I S2G watching videos of them going through airports is terrifying
-Going off of the pronoun thing; neither Jimin’s or JK’s solo songs have used ‘she’ in them (that I’m aware of, correct me if I’m wrong)
-The group’s appreciation/effort to make/capture rainbows in Bon Voyage season 4 was interesting. Cool
-JK apologized profusely (and appeared to genuinely be very distraught) about having tattoos, tattoos a completely normal thing to have just WHAT. That’s so sad that they think their own bodies are up to the decision of the public. I get their idols but it’s their bodies it’s so sad
-JiKook is just so loud. Like. They’ve literally almost kissed like 5 times. Jimin flew back (a 16 hour flight) to Korea for two hours to see JK on his bday and got him a rainbow cake. When asked about his fav part of their Tokyo trip, JK said it was staying up until 5 am doing...something. Hmhmmm.
-The guys rough house around with each other all the time. They teased each other all the time. Friends do that. But, especially in the last few years, JiKook are gentiler to each other. LIke for the push game in Run!BTs They literally just stood there. There’s other instances like that too. If I was in a committed relationship (or any really) I wouldn’t want to be physically harmful to my partner, that’s abuse.
-Also Jimin really only takes teasing from JK. Two examples that come to my mind are in BV Season 4, he literally just lets JK splash him in the face with water staying still, the moment anyone else does it, he turns his back. There’s that other video (I’m so sorry there’s just so many videos) when they’re shooting a promo of some sort, JK keeps playing with JM’s suspenders and he doesn’t do anything. Suga does it once and JM’s expression turns ice cold
-Everyone loses their shit when JK or JM call each other bro but everytime they do it’s clearly in a joking, ‘isn’t this funny because it’s ironic’, kind of way. Bro is the same as dude and if you’ve never jokingly called someone dude or bro regardless of their relation to you you’re lying
-No matter any of their sexualities, they’re publically normalizing guy friends showing verbal and physical affection for each other on a very, very large platform and that’s really cool because fuck toxic masculinity
-Lastly, a lot, a lot of the content Jimin and JK post of each other, if you swapped out someone of the opposite gender it would 100% be perceived as if they were dating
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If you made it this far why, but thank you. Comment, let’s chat. Am I crazy? Or onto something lol
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Kookmin analysis: Actions are better than words.
Lately, I had come with a lot of posts about Jungkook-not-loving-Jimin-anymore (to be honest this was like one month ago, but the posts are still there, for some reason, they’re still coming). All of this make me remember that time, maybe for 2015-2016 when Jungkook was younger and this two had what we can call a push-pull relationship, with Jungkook having, at beginning, the role of the ambivalent partner (“I like you, but I cannot be with you. I love you, but I’m too scare of being close. I really appreciate you, but I’m not good enough for you”).
I will not go too deep on that, because a lot of people had come with an analysis for this behavior, but, I don’t believe that Jungkook was a grumpy person without feelings (like a lot of people tend to believe). For me, it was that Jungkook was just a teenager getting to know himself and learning about life, and where he will end with his decisions.
I want to talk about the fact that Jungkook, of course, loves Jimin and how he is demonstrating this day by day, even when they don’t have like “the big moment” everyone is always waiting for, (because they had gift us with so much that we’re always waiting for bigger and better).
1) For this analysis, is good to remember that we don’t have power over Jimin and Jungkook, not today, not tomorrow. If they’re real or not, if they’re going to show us more or not. This is all, just wondering and making theories.
2) I don’t know Jungkook and I will never do, not in real life. I will never have the real contact with him to know everything about him; his thoughts, his feelings, his fears. The only thing I can do, is try to analysis the way he acts.
So, actions are better than words.
We had always heard that, every time in our lives. Maybe more than just one. “I prefer to make actions instead of just talking, because I’m not good expressing my feelings”;“You said you love me, but you don’t act like it” or “Didn’t you notice all the things that I have make for you? I like you!”.
Jungkook, is this kind of person. In a page I had come with, say that his type of personality is INFP (Introversion-Intuition-Feeling-Perception), “The Mediator”, but that’s an analysis for another moment. Just with that we could have a lot to talk about it.
Jungkook is the kind of person who talks with actions more than words, and he had statement this more than once. He has said himself that he’s an introvert and prefers being alone, or that he doesn’t feel comfortable being with strangers.
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The members had said about little Jungkookie, when he first arrived at the dorms and he had to learn to live with strangers. That was hard for him; taking shower after everyone, crying about your failures or crying easily (“Jungkook, sing in front of us”, Hobi had said. And that when you talk to him like that, he ended crying), don’t opening up with the older people that are living with you. That’s symptoms of stress too.
But, living with his hyungs making him open up too. His hyungs were the persons that practically raised him and he was with them when his true personality begin building up. At the teenage age, we tend to discover ourselves and defined; if I like this, if I like this hobby, If I’m going to eat this. And for that we can see that Jungkook has little traits of his other hyungs in him (For example: Namjoon’s laugh. Being younger Jungkook always laughed covering himself with his hand and do it cute and shy, now he laughs exactly like Namjoon; opening his mouth big and his body going backwards). And with all that, Jimin came to the picture like one of the hyungs that was always with an eye of him; if Jungkook was feeling okay, if he was eating okay, if they go out like a group Jimin stick to his side to protect him (That time in American Hustle Life when Jimin put his arm in front of Jungkook, thinking he was going to cross the street before the light turning green, like he was protecting him from the cars passing by).
And Jungkook, since the minute one, had problems showing his feelings to other people.
Namjoon said that the time that broke his heart the most was when Jungkook had cried because of his hyungs being hurt, it wasn’t because Jungkook was tired or filled with stress, it was because his hyungs had cried and they were tired, so Jungkook was sad for them.
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Remember this time? When everyone was reading their letters to Army and thanking us for being there for them? Jungkook read his really good, but he read it fast and almost without taking air between the dots and words. That’s a usual technique when you know you’re feeling sensitive and you’re eyes start hurting because of the tears, you tend to talk faster. When we cried we have to take a big gulp of air before doing it. He was doing really well until he talked again, but talking about his feelings without a paper prepared beforehand, and what happened? He couldn’t finish, because his words ended being cut and he cried, and maybe he didn’t found the exact words to say and express himself:
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“I always try to show that I love you all and I’m thankful, but it’s still extremely difficult.”
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Somebody could think “But this doesn’t count, because he was younger than he is now!”,but that’s the thing. Jungkook at that time already know that, for him, it was difficult to express himself. When BTS were younger and not a lot of people knew them, what was the best way for them to express? With words and tweets, mostly, talking to ARMY face to face and express themselves. Music was something that, mostly, three members were doing, not because they didn’t give the opportunity to the rest of members, but because they were too insecure about their own capacities for taking the risk to express by just the music. Jungkook was aware of his limits and with that, he started growing up, gaining feelings for the people around him; love, affection, adoration, you name it.
And then we have Jimin, the person that was always trying to pull him, showered him with love and words.
Jimin was, and is, the opposite to Jungkook; he didn’t have the problem of going and hug him, kiss him and saying him how much he loves him, (that could be because of family. Usually, little kids that are accustomed to their parents saying “I love you” a lot, said it easily too. But I cannot be one hundred percentage sure, because I don’t know their families, of course). Jimin has the balance of a person who can say how much he loves you and at the same time, making it notice with actions.
And Jungkook, at first, pushed him and he made the click when someone asked him “Do you like Jimin?” and he answered with a “Of course I like him”. And then we started having this moments; Jungkook following Jimin, Jungkook being “jealous” of people being close to Jimin, always trying to have his attention, always wanting to be beside him.
I don’t think Jungkook can easily say “I love you”, but he does it daily, with his actions. The first and biggest one we got to know, the g.c.f in Tokyo. You can say whatever you want, but thought about it for a moment without trying to think about their company or whatever. Jungkook had showed us since the first BV that he loves photography, remember when he was really nervous about what he had to take to the trip? And he chooses his camera? And even he wonders if the camera was charged? And then we saw him stopping on his track when the members were trying to find the hotel, because he wanted to take pictures. Imagine then, this Jungkook, the Jungkook that, again, had token a lot of picture of just Jimin just because. Like this one:
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(Because I don’t find another reason of taking a picture of a friend sleeping that way, instead of thinking that he looks beautiful and cute, and you want to save it forever. We usually took pictures of what we want to remember.)
Then, thinking of that Jungkook taking his big camera to a trip of four days to Japan and recovered everything (or the most important) that they did together that days. I don’t know if you had tried to edit a video, but that is hard, is looking at the whole thing frame by frame, cutting some things, making the edits, looking again if it’s seeing fine, searching for the right music (and then picking the one that is a love song), and watching for the billion time that is okay.
That’s an action of love.
You don’t do that for whoever person in your life, but for the person you love. Doing a video can make you go angry even, because is hard and end you being tired, but Jungkook did it anyway and look at it again and again until being perfect (for him and Jimin). That’s the kind of action that you do for the person you love. With that way Jungkook can say: “I love you, hyung.”
And that kind of actions doesn’t end there.
Remember the cover of the Charlie Puth’s song with Selena. Jungkook sang it with Jimin. I’m totally sure that Jungkook was the one asking Jimin to sing with him, because Jimin is a little piece of sun, but he’s insecure about his job; his dancing, his singing, his English. Now, think about Jimin singing in English. That’s a big thing for him, I can almost hear him mumbling: “And what if I don’t sing well? What if I don’t pronounce the words well?” I don’t believe Jimin could easily go to Jungkook and ask to sing together. Jungkook, then, choose him. And imagine Jimin wondering why Jungkook choose him, if he’s not the best one to sing in another language, but Jungkook, anyway, knew that Jimin was going to do it perfectly. They practice together again and again, with Jimin being the perfectionist person he is, he wasn’t going to end being calm until knowing that he was doing well. That’s another action of love.
I choose you because I believe in you, because I know that you’re going to do really well. I choose you because I want to sing this song with you.
Remember all the times Jungkook had given his jacket to Jimin?
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Or the time when they have to do the choreography of No More Dream and Jungkook is always making sure that Jimin is okay? (And with that, in that practice when Jungkook didn’t let go of Jimin after the choreography stopped). When the members were complaining because Jungkook only give a gift for Jimin on his birthday, but the members didn’t receive anything? And in that Run! BTS episode when they won the gift of another member, Jimin gave Jungkook a cat lamp and Jungkook hold the gift like it was the most precious thing in the world?
Each one of these actions are little demonstration of love.
And that’s are not the only ones.
When Jungkook had complained that Jimin walks too slowly or he is always late to everything, (the members agreeing with that), but even with that we always watch them walking together mostly of the times and Jungkook sticking to Jimin’s side when they go to places.
That Bomb BTS where the members took the elevator but not everyone could be inside, and Jimin ended left alone to wait for the other, at that time Jungkook didn’t noticed that Jimin didn’t enter until it was late, and he panicked a little bit.
When Jimin couldn’t dance because he was hurt and Jungkook was worried for him during the concert.
In the Hawaii BV, when the vminkook team was ready to leave but Jimin was taking a picture of rocks, and Jungkook said the famous: “Let’s go, baby, let’s go.” (For this I’m going to ask you to think about it, when do you look back and say your friend or partner “Let’s go”?, well, usually when you don’t want for them to be left behind).
Had you notice that usually Jungkook said that he doesn’t like do certain things? Like, going out a lot to just walk and see things, while Jimin is, again, the opposite because he likes seeing new things and learning about other places. And what Jungkook did? Bought a ticket for the two of them to Tokyo for only watch and do, probably, whatever Jimin wanted to do.
Another thing: Jungkook had said that he doesn’t like a lot taking pictures of himself (we can notice that, because usually he is the member that don’t use twitter a lot, beside Yoongi, to post selfies), but he’s always letting Jimin take selfies of the two of them.
With this, we could say that even when Jungkook is not the kind of person to say that he loves you with words, he’s always showing it, and he mostly show it to Jimin.
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HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT JK IS A SYMPATHETIC CRIER? That time hobi cried abt his dad 😥, jks in the back crying, that time tae cried when he read the bv letter to jimin, jks in the back crying, and those times on the wings tour and I think there are more examples but I'm already upset? Like I dont *like* to think of him or any of them crying but...help? It's so sweet? I'm so endeared pls...
dhasdfgds ANON YES!!! ITS ONE OF MY FAV JUNGKOOK THINGS~!!!!! The purest thing beyond him literally just crying is how he just hovers in the back crying, trying to make sure nobody sees him but his shiny ass eyes start twinkling so he’s easy to spot kjsdfhdsf it’s like so cute!! he’s the type that kind of doesn’t know what to do when someone is crying and just cries with them but like.. behind them, being tiny dsfjkhsdf
Also in the LY Seoul tour video where he starts crying cause he made a tiny mistake nobody saw.. like he was just being a teary eyed bun drowning in thoughts, but he started actually crying when someone noticed jungkook was really quiet/off, and everyone instantly went in to coddle him.. pwease he’s Just A BABY 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 he’s so easily overwhelmed when loved, it’s SO ENDEARING!!!!!!
u can really tell how pure hearted that boy is through actions like that.. hell i’m fairly sure jungkook’s the type to watch animal rescue video’s and cry when they find an scared, abused pet, then sigh in relief when he watches the pet get taken care of adopted by a good family dsjhfsdf
#anon why u making me cry#i'm a cry baby and i relate VERY heavily with this trait sdjkfhsjkfhjfadjhkfd#Anonymous
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I mean all of their footage, whether bangtan bombs, Run BTS or ITS are heavily edited. Not just TK related, but just in general. Like you said there is probably hours worth of footage for one episode so obviously a lot is left on the editing board. But we’ve also seen them editing out scenes that are supposed to look like an unedited scene but when you pay attention you notice that a lot was actually cut or they might have changed the timing or order of how things happened etc. Also I’m pretty sure that even during the filming of ITS there are tons of moment that the cameras are not rolling. The famous ghost Taehyung emerging from the boat house at 4am being one of them. But I also agree that they’re both professional enough to act like they’re working, because that’s exactly what they’re doing!
Hi anon!
I have a tiny bit of experience with filming and editing and let me tell you.. for a short video of ten minutes, you more than likely need at least two hours of footage to pull from. We know they were filming for several days and we got only hours of footage. There’s a lot missing. ITS looked like they were actually relaxing a bit, so there probably were times when they were just… doing boring stuff (now I would even watch that.. everyone would… we watched Jk sleep on live 😂), but that’s the stuff they leave out ofcourse. I think ITS was also rather Taekook friendly, there were a lot of great moments. BV is definitely different. Feels more like a schooltrip with a schedule.
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100 things Jimin has said or done that has made me believe he’s an angel roaming and existing on earth
Jimin got worried over the fact that dogs only see two colors
Jimin broke apart dog snacks so the dog named Miri could eat them safely
In his birthday vlive when a fan commented saying as long as Jimins happy I’m happy, jimin said no I’m happy only when you’re happy
In one run episode where the game was about keeping your balloon jimin accidentally popped Jins ballon, later on when Jimin had lost his ballon he found another one which he then decided to give it to Jin because he popped his previous one
At the LY tour Jimin stopped singing for a moment to check on a fan who had passed out, he crouched down and watched on as people helped the person and didn’t budge until he got a signal that the fan was for sure doing alright
At GMA a little girl got to meet bts, she started to cry when meeting them. Jimin went immediately to comfort her, he hugged her, he caressed her head he even carried her across the stage because she wouldn’t let go of him
When asked in an interview who the best dancer Jimin did a whole show, jumping out of his seat, getting down on his knees and pointing at Hoseok, having Hoseok smiling and laughing at him
The owner of the calico cat (Curry) that was in the serendipity video said that before shooting the video Jimin wanted to get closer to Curry so that Curry wouldn’t feel nervous during the shootings
One of the staff members even mentioned that Curry might scratch him but jimin said that it’s okay even if she scratches him
Jimin heard if you kissed stingrays they will grant u luck so he kissed a stingray multiple times to grant enough luck for all of us
At the soribada awards one of camera men accidentally bumped into Jimin even though Jimin was in the middle of perfoming, he stopped up for a second and made sure the camera man who bumped into him was doing okay
Jimin once said said because Jungkook’s room is close to Jimin’s and because Jimin is the type to go to bed very late he tends to walks past Jungkook’s room to make sure he’s washed up before bed or turned his light off for him if he’s fallen asleep and forgot to do it
In a run epsiode where bts were to make kimchi, after struggling with making it Jimin commented on how he didn’t realize how much work was put into it and how from now on he’ll buy his mom kimchi instead of having her make it
Behind the scenes of the idol mv Jimin found a bug that was missing its leg he told it its a dangers place for it to be here and put it to the side so it wouldn’t get crushed
In a vlive Jimin said how Hoseok told Jimin he could play games at night if wanted to because as mentioned earlier Jimin tends to go to bed late because he can’t fall asleep for some reason and he tends to get bored of just being on his phone but Jimin said he doesn’t want to do it he doesn’t want the sounds to wake him up especially if the day’s been rough and Hoseok has made effort to go to bed in time
Jimin believes aliens exist and said that even though it wouldn’t do much for him if they existed the thought just makes him happy for some reason
Jimin always makes sure to go to each member’s solo project schedules no matter how early or how late the hours are to support them
During a run game where they were supposed to pick clothes for a member Jimin made sure to choose two pair of outfits one for a smaller frame one for a bigger frame (as well as a third one as a special)
During the promotion week of the Answer album Jimin got barely any sleep to the point where people could hear members encouraging Jimin to fight on before a performance yet you can’t see in the performances if he was tired or not because he always gave every performance his all
Whenever a member gets a punishment in run bts Jimin is more likely than not the person to offer himself to go with them: example he offered himself to go with Namjoon to climb a mountain when he seemed apprehensive about it,
he offered to even go with Jin in run bts when Jin said he’ll walk his way to the house they were staying in if it meant the rest got a treat
In the same run episode Jimin noticed Jin was getting tired of walking up the hill so he gave him a piggy back ride although jimin obviously got tired from it, when Jin asked him if he was tired he denied it
Not only that but in that same run episode Jimin had tried multiple times to play games to win drinks for bts
He even offered himself in the same run episode to peal Yoongi’s egg who said he really liked the egg but it was hard to peal it
In another run episode Jin joking said I’m upset because he was losing a game jimin heared him and asked him are up upset hyung, even gave him a finger heart to make him smile
At a recent performance Jimin saw Jin standing off to the side quietly so he quickly went to him and spread his arms out to hug him
Jimin said that the reason as to why he started to take Polaroid picture is because he wanted to save moments and memories with the members when there weren’t cameras around
When they first started out and struggled with money Jimin still got Hoseok a pair of very good shoes and it’s still a present Hoseok cherishes and keeps today
He also got Jungkook a bag so he wouldn’t have to carry around such a heavy one as his previous one was he even got Namjoon clothes because it seemed to be his style
K media even pointed out how Jimin is always giving thoughtful birthday presents to members and putting their tastes into consideration (like a bag for Jungkook, cardigan for Namjoon, hoodie for Jin etc) They also pointed out how Jimin was always the one who is holding a cake on their bday videos
In Taehyung’s birthday bangtan bomb when eating Taehyung’s cake JImin knew that Hoseok doesn’t like sour flavors and since the cake had sour toppings on it Jimin seemed concerned about whether he’d be able to eat it. Hoseok looked really touched at the comment but said it’ll be okay but Jimin still told him which one’s he should eat to avoide the sour flavors
In a Bangtan bomb Jimin checked up on everyone and went to each members bed and wished them a good night, he even stroked Jungkook’s hair lovingly while wishing him a good night softly
Because Jungkook recently injured himself he wasn’t able to dance along with the rest during the performances, at one point while they were performing Jungkook got so upset he started crying, Jimin who was all the way across the opposite side of the stage stopped performing and ran to Jungkook to comfort him
Jimin also said the same day in regards of Jungkook’s injury “ I know you all are worried about Jungkook, but if Jungkook goes home like this today, all he'll do is cry. on three, everyone say I LOVE YOU JUNGKOOK”
Jimin stayed by Jungkook’s side during the concert where he was injured comforting and cheering him up for more than a minute and leaving only when Taehyung came to make him company
Jimin stood with Jungkook when he was injured, he sang for him and with him, he made him laugh and smile he held onto him while he was crying with the most endearing look on his face to exist
In a bon voyage episode Jimin and Namjoon had to walk uphill Jimin made a comment on how he felt bad for the staff because they had to carry heavy equipment up with them
In a bon voyage episode Jimin and Jungkook bought slushies for the staff that were with them, Jimin went up to the staff and made sure everyone got one by asking them mupltiple times about it
In a bon voyage epsiode Jimin said that as a child he wanted to be a pirate and he promised his mom he’d be the number one swordsman in the world, he didn’t know pirates were bad back then and felt embarassed confessing it
Jimin said if he could have any job he’d be a cop
Jimin once took pictures of graffit art that said things like fuck you and literally went and changed it so it would say i love you he even went and cropped out an inappropriate part of another graffiti picture
When Jimmy Fallon fell down to the floor from laughing Jimin quickly made sure he was’t hurt and asked him how he was doing (albeit such a simple thing I found it endearing he’d do this when this is one of his most common habits)
In one run epsiode even though Jimin solved most of the puzzles for his team at the end of it he said teamwork is the most important thing and gave his team all the creds for it
In a run episode where they were to make and drink coffee Jimin knew Taehyung doesnt drink coffee and he made sure that everyone knew about it. he even asked the instructor if Tae could make a hot chocolate instead
During an episode of Bon voyage Jin was too busy cooking food to eat Jimin quickly called him over when he noticed it and told him to have some even made sure to feed him some pieces before it was all eaten
In a episode of bv where Taehyung had yet to arrive there, when someone said something about how this was a friendship trip Jimin got upset and asked how is this a friendship trip if Taehyung is missing he said Taehyung has to be here for it to be a friendship trip
When Jin and Jimin were ordering sandwhiches Jin ordered first 7 until he remembered they were 6 and you could clearly see Jimin got upset over the fact that Taehyung wasn’t here he even graoned and said come on Taehyung
Because Yoongi had a private emergency while they were filming bv he had to leave. Hours after Yoongi left bts were back home playing their own songs, when Yoongi’s part came on Jimin quickly went out his room and said Yoongi hyung i miss you
When Taehyung asked what the biggest room is in the bon voyage house they were staying in Jimin got too excited and quickly told him which room is the biggest even though the rest of the members agreed to not tell him got really embarrassed and made the cutest face to exist
Jimin didn’t take any sides in tae and jins fight that happened in burn the stage instead he showed them both what they did wrong and adviced them how to go from there
Later on, before their concert, Jimin noticed that Taehyung was visibly still upset over the fight before so he went up hugged him and even gave him a pep talk
In burn the stage when Jin and Taehyung were fighting everyone left them to talk in private but Jimin stayed although hidden in the back and out of view for them, once they were done he walked out and offered to get food togeher he even microwaved the food for them
when Jungkook neeeded paramedic assistance Jimin stood to the side and let them do their job but he wouldn’t leave until he knew Jungkook was doing better
Jimin kept talking about how he was thankful they choose to go to Malta for Bon Voyage after he had seen how pretty the moon looked there
In one epsiode Jimin even kept talking excitedly about how he spent a whole afternoon just talking with the cats in the area of Malta
During Buzzfeed’s puppy interview they got a puppy who was quiet shy and timid Jimin soon took him in his arms he played with him for most the interview and gave him kisses and cuddles when he put him down to go to other members the puppy wouldn’t budge and went back to his arms even when the interview was ending and he was putting him down the puppy went back to his arms
Even though Jimin first said in the summer package that when he first heard they were going to see stingrays he was kind of scared but he still felt he wanted to pet them and kiss them and he found it endearing how sweet they were being when you tickled them
Jimin said whenever he does a vlive he feels like he has to prepare himself before doing it and that’s why he takes so long to come on there and apologaized for it
In an episode of run bts Taehyung got sad after hitting the ball in the wrong direction when playing badminton, he started to walk away. jimin saw it and quickly called him and held his hand to comforting him
Someone once called jimin perfect on vlive he genuinely looked confused and asked perfect? how?
whenever jimin falls on stage he’s quick to brush it off and move on from it but whenever someone else falls on stage like tae did for example in the recent concert he wouldn’t take his eyes from him until he was assured Taehyung was doing okay
In a vlive Jimin did with Jin, when saying goodnight he made sure to say goodnight to fans in as many different time zones as possible
When arriving at the Billboard music awards, while the rest were in awe of all the fans that were waiting outside for them, and even the signs that were there for them, Jimin was concered over the fact that they were out waiting in the heat and how it must’ve been like waiting
Jimin also once went to apologaize to all fans who were waiting outside for them to perform, he said it must be hard for them and that they should’ve hurried to get ready and perfom faster, he felt bad and felt like he keeps having fans wait for them
Jimin gave away 60 signed cds of his for all the 60 students at the elementary school he once went to and even paid for the uniforms for the kids that were entering middle school that year
Jimin and tae both gave away their clothes to an organization that sells celebrity clothes and where the profits go to children
Jimin once bought 50 kimbaps when for just dance academy students when they were having their recital last year
a student from jimins elementary school also said said jimin personally called the school and said he wanted to sponsor the graduates scholarships
Taking care of Jungkook is literally is one of the things jimin put on his ‘small but definite happiness list’
In one bv episode you can see jimin walking to Jungkooks room, waking him up asking him if he went to bed immediately when jungkook said yes he praised him for it he even told him to be careful with his joints in the morning when he was stretching
In the summer package jimin asked tae if he could make a snack for him whilst tae was making a snack for himself which tae did Tae was watching something when doing this for Jimin so Jimin found it endearing that he’d bother to do this for him when in the middle of something and kept patting his head and cooing and prasing him
When asked who his favorite member is jimin said that all of the members help him or advice him in one way or another’s that if he has a problem they all deal with it together
During the past few ly concerts Jimins has had aches in his back but he didn’t say anything and kept pushing on perfoming
In Jimin’s and Jin’s recent vlive jimin absently said because theyre having dinner in Jimins rooom jins room won’t have to smell of food
when guest starring in please take care of my refrigerator Jin said Jimin’s been a humble person ever since he was born
When in bv Jimins group didn’t have money to pay for their fairy jimin quicky told them to take his wallet to pay with it
When hobi was shooting videos for his mixtape jimin went and visited him and even brought him a gift
this one time jimin told taehyung “even if i cant help you i can give you strenght”
At the backstage of billboard music awards Jimin talked about how he was very nervous to deliver his award speech but he kept on thinking if they win this award he has to deliver this message
Jimin once spent a good amount of time trying trying to read on trashcans if the trash bin contains non-biodegradables so he could throw rj’s plastic packaging
During an interview with Grammy museum, when the interviewer mentioned the fans jimin got the most endearing smile on his face turned to the crowd and smiled at them, he even decided to answer the question that was fan related
when asked to choose between people plants or pets jimin choose people and pets
Jimin wrote a letter to yoongi telling him to take care of himself and rest well and that he worries about him and his body when hes over working himself for things
When playing around with yeontan jimin wanted to give him a snack but he first went and called tae to ask if it was okay to do it before he gave him it
As jimin was perfoming at the ly tour he saw a fan cry he told them to not cry to smile and that they(bts) loves them
During the time tae was away in bv jimin kept him updated with what was happening with videos and photos
When doing a vlive jimin noticed a lot of people being worried about him in the comments he quickly adressed it and told them to not worry that he’s eating well and taking care of himself
Even in an interview jimin told fans that they’re all taking care of themselves and eating well and to not worry about them
in one run epsiode hobi was making food on the grill and when jimin noticed he was struggling he went to help him, even when hobi didn’t ask for him to get him scissors he literally ran all the way to the kitchen to get them
In a vlive Jimin said he likes being around his members he wants to be around with them. he like being together with them.
Even as Jimin was leaving his hotel even as he was passing by with a car he made sure to great armys who are waiting outside for them
When signing things Jimin blew on his autograph extra well making sure its nice and dry so it won't smudge before moving on with the next item
Whenever he’s drawing something for us he spends hours upon hours into it, putting a lot of time and effort into it and once spent a whole day drawing a page for their colorbook
namjoon said jimins a person who needs lots of love and attention
jimin said he wants to be know for his sincer heart
In a vlive jimin said that perfoming at the Bilboatds isn’t everyone gets to do you can see he was really honored and touched by getting the chance to perfom there
when tae arrived to the bv location jimin kept holding him, holding his hand, telling him he loves him and excitedly chatting with him
jimin really doesn’t like to do vlives alone solely because he enjoys constantly being surronded by his members and when they arent around he misses them
Jimin got a water bottle for seokjin which BTS ended up sharing between them all jimin waited patiently but ended up being last and getting a tiny bit of it
at a ly concert jimin kept comforting the fans that were crying on one side then when he himself ended up crying later on he came to that side and cried
jimin is the most amazing wonderful thoughtful considerate person there is he would literally give the clothes off of his back if you asked for it his heart is as pure as his soul he has the biggest heart and the purest soul in the world he deserves all the good this world can give and more
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