#but Binghe’s pov would be fucking heartbreaking

[hallwyeoo]

I really desperately want Luo Binghe’s perspective in svsss. I want to know what he’s thinking and feeling. I want every horrible thought and ache he has throughout the story. I want to dig my fingers into his brain and squeeze out every last experience, all his despair and hope and longing. I want to know exactly what he was thinking after without a cure, during the abyss, in jin lan city, during the five years. I want it all.

[touchlikethesun]

so i was thinking earlier that it’s probably for the best that svsss isn’t written from lbh’s pov, and yknow what i bet pidw wasn't written strictly in binghe's pov either, for a very similar reason.

reading about what is happening is one thing, but if the audience actually had insight into what luo binghe was actually thinking during the events of pidw, i think it'd be too bleak, even for edgy grimdark stallion novel fans

and it makes me sad/upset for luo bingge, like not only does he have to suffer endlessly, but he isn't even granted the dignity to tell his story in his own words, he just gets whisked along the plot, not only unable to communicate with any of the people around him but not even able to truly express his anguish thru narration. hurt from concrete examples of abuse can only be expressed thru anger and cool revenge, but hurt from more nuanced sources or more emotional areas (there’s lots of examples but rn i think of the trauma from a lot of his sexual experiences that have dubious consent at best, emotion neglect wounds from childhood, continued abandonment issues, food insecurity, etc.) is not allowed to be voiced at all. like he's having to live this, for spectacle, and the spectators get to project their violent fantasies on to him — get their outlet thru him — meanwhile he never gets an ounce of comfort or resolution or release or just fucking anything

at least bingmei has shen yuan. but like he also doesn't get to tell his own story for pretty much all of svsss, and it — among other things — clearly nearly destroys him.

so actually i take back what i said. i do want a binghe pov. because for all that it would be uncomfortable/heartbreaking/bleak/disturbin g/cringe-inducing at times, binghe is the one that had to live through everything, and like how every one deserves to tell their own story, deserves grace and understanding, binghe also deserves that chance.

[greenpanda-djg]

Shen Jiu is complicated because technically there is TWO versions, the draft of what PIDW was supposed to be and the actual story, yeah Shen Qingqiu of the OG story sucked, but in the draft and the extras posted it showed how Shang Qinghua [the author] saw him, his interactions with Shen Jiu was telling and from Shangs pov he saw shen jiu as being misunderstood and was innocent in the death of liu qingge because he 'panicked' not saying Shen Jiu is better than Shen Yuan BUT I can't help but think;

If Shen Yuan was a orphan on the street turned abused slave and had to claw his way out and was hurt and had his trust betrayed would he still be soft and caring towards others? Especially those that mocked his cultivation something that was out of his control?

It is sad that Shen Jiu was killed off and everyone was happy especially when there is worse people in the story who get away with literally murder.

Luo Binghe using Cultivators as cualdrons a fate worse than death?

Ning yingying fine with her sect burned to the ground and okay with her martial siblings being killed?

Yue Qingyuan being an enabler knowing how abused disciples were under the hand of Shen Jiu yet did nothing about it and let it continue on?

The whole point of mxtx works is that not EVERYONE is perfect and not EVERYONE is evil. Black and white doesn't exist. These are layered flawed characters and also, we are seeing a biased look on what Shen Jiu as a charcter was supposed to be since airplane lost his outline.

So it's unfair to judge Shen Jiu and say when he had his story he was the reason it fucked up but thats bias as that story was written by airplane for fans who loved the male power fantasy and fanservice. and that story was written by a man who wanted to pay his rent. The Origianl Proud immortal demon way isn't an accurate account of Shen JIu as a character since both his and Tianglang-juns story arcs were cut.

So yeah we have empathy for a character whose life was so stupidly tragic but the worst part is that there's no closure, because everyone believes that Shen Yuan IS shen Jiu.

The tragedy here isn't about Shen Jiu or Shen Yuan- it's the fact that Shen Yuan has to PRETEND, that when Yue Qingyuan told him his reasons for not coming back, Shen Yuan couldn't react as it was too late.

When Meng Mo showed him his past and watched Shen Yuan react, he was pretending. All of those people see him and all of his relationships with them isn't real. Shen Yuan already see's these people as 'characters' as a fake world and the imposter syndrome he'll face is something he's going to have to deal with in his 'happy' ever after along with all of the lies he could never tell Luo Binghe his husband.

And the lack of closure for Shen Jiu is heartbreaking, It was too little too late.

[I know some people aren't a fan of Shen Jiu and I get that, I just can't help but disagree that just because he's a villain doesn't mean others can't look at his story with empathyand feel bad for him- also not saying that Shen Jiu is better/worse than Shen Yuan. Shen Yuan had his own system and went through his own struggles and trials and thats a parallel Shen Jiu.]

i always find it funny when people feel sorry for no one caring that shen jiu got booted out of his body and that everyone liked shen yuan better. as if shen jiu didn’t go out of his way to make literally everyone hate him, he wasn’t “misunderstood” he was actively trying to make people dislike him by being awful. i like shen jius character and do love when ppl explore him in fanon but i’m also unhinged about shen yuan. i take it personally when people like shen jiu better bc i don’t understand how and im not trying to im just bitter

plus shen yuan has all the interesting parts of shen jiu (bitchiness, pettiness, being pretty, wearing green, holding fan) while also not being a genuinely horrible person. he also has the Defining trait in making a character god tier, Loving Luo Binghe