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5and3nevermind · 2 months ago
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Sorry, I'm lost. I heard that Nervermind's tattoo is from a Nirvana song.
Why would Jimin tattoo Nirvana's nevermind song? He's already mentioned this song as one of his favorites? (I'm new to the fandom, sorry if you've already answered that question).
And my God! how much noise just because of a tattoo, what madness! Why are they so mad about it? LOL
Hi anon! Welcome!
Nirvana’s Nevermind isn’t a song; it’s their second album, which was released in 1991.
Jimin has never talked about his tattoo and what it is referencing, but I am not aware of any evidence to suggest that it has to do with the Nirvana album, nor have I ever heard Jimin talk about that album being special to him. (Of course, it’s possible I missed something. If so, please feel free to send it my way.) Anyone stating definitively that the tattoo is about the album is speculating (and working really hard to disconnect the tattoo from Yoongi’s song).
Anything is possible, but we have to weigh the evidence we do have regarding the tattoo (and of course all of these things come from official content, meaning Jimin shared this knowingly)…
1. Jimin wore “nevermind” henna during a BTS performance in 2014. If the henna was about the Nirvana album rather than foreshadowing of an upcoming BTS song, why would he do that? Why combine that henna with another henna that said “HYYH” and was absolutely BTS foreshadowing? To me, it seems more likely that the henna is about Yoongi’s song than about the Nirvana album, in this context. ☑️
2. Less than a year later, in Nov 2015, Intro: Never Mind was released. In the book Beyond the Story (2022), the song was discussed and Yoongi stated that it was very specific to his motorcycle accident in which he injured his shoulder years ago.
3. Jimin got a tattoo in late 2018 that looked almost exactly like the 2014 henna, to the point that many fans at first assumed it was henna again. However, as time went by, it became clear that Jimin had gotten a permanent tattoo. So, we can assume that the meaning of “nevermind” in 2018 was the same as it was in 2014, right? A new meaning would likely lead to a new look/style of tattoo. If it was unlikely for Jimin to reference the Nirvana album in 2014, it would still be unlikely later. ☑️
4. Jimin has mentioned his preference for Intro: Never Mind. He has also said it’s the one song that most reminds him of Yoongi. ☑️
5. When Yoongi discussed writing Intro: Never Mind at Festa 2021, Jimin smiled and pointed to his tattoo. This indicates to me a connection between the tattoo and the song. ☑️
6. In the SMF pt 2 music video, Jimin wore a shirt with a cut-out/hole strategically placed so that his tattoo was visible. SMF pt 2 was titled in such a way because Yoongi had released a song called Set Me Free in 2020. So, we have the tattoo that’s the title of Yoongi’s 2015 song in a music video named after Yoongi’s 2020 song? Imagine the coincidence if the tattoo was about the Nirvana album instead. What would the odds be of that? Astronomical, I’d say. ☑️
7. In the SGMB music video, released just a few months ago, we see the Never Mind references continue with the inclusion of a blue butterfly. (A blue butterfly appeared in the HYYH Never Mind comeback trailer, released in 2015). We also see two birth flowers in the music video: one for October (Jimin) and one for March (Yoongi). ☑️
Part of the reason some people get so upset about a tattoo is because deep down they know the significance of this. There are some people in the fandom who can’t even admit that Jimin and Yoongi are close, that they’re friends. So, Jimin holding a special place in his heart for Yoongi’s song—which he wrote, produced, and performed—is contradictory to their beliefs.
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bangtanpurplearchive · 4 months ago
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BTS trip through time. November 2015.
This month was the 151130 The Most Beautiful Moment In Life part 2 comeback.
BTS live on stage (archive)
151130 [A.R.M.Y #2] Happy Birthday to you~ (December)
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The live tour was amazing. What do you think? what did you enjoy?
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nenasspot · 3 years ago
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i'm not that big of an album listener (only the classics babyyyy),, but listening to the latest sf9 album (rumination) in one sitting is honestly a godly experience
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stormblessed95 · 2 years ago
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Hi!!! It’s me again. I hope your having a great day. As our resident BTSpedia I’m hoping you can tell me where to look cause I’ve been on YouTube and it didn’t help. Also this isn’t Jikook related.
I became army after the HYYH period. Everyone is extremely excited and I’m happy to be able to see it for myself. My confusion is why do they say it’s gay and they hope Yoonkook have a happy ending? I’ve watched what I can on YouTube to try and tie the moments and videos together, but I may be missing some things.
Do you happen to know why they call it this and where I may be able to get a full picture? Thank you!!!!
This is, in part, asking the impossible. Because you will likely get a different interpretation of the story with every person you ask. Plus there is so much and it's confusing no matter what. Lol So like everything else, it's best to dive into it all and draw your own conclusions. So I'll do a general overview of it all and then I'll get into why a lot of people, but especially the queer community, thinks it's gay. This is going to be an incredibly long post probably, so I apologize in advance lol. But I know I have a lot of baby armys on this blog too, so if yall are interested, hopefully this helps!
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To start, it's always important to remind people that this is fictional. None of their relationships within this storyline or the things that they've gone through/did is an accurate portrayal of their real lives. Even if some things link up (like them all loving each other lots etc) they are playing characters, characters with their own names, but characters still. If we want to relate it to real life at all, the only thing we could do is possibly have an interesting discussion over the homoromantic themes BH included in this storyline full of trauma, angst, love and friendship and why they did that. Lol the general overall theme of this storyline though seems to be that SeokJin time travels in his efforts to save the other members, from outside forces and/or from themselves. As well as the overarching themes of the importance of friendships, etc.
So basically I'm going to go ahead and start this post off with a list of the videos, notes, webtoons, etc included in the hyyh BU storyline that you would need to watch/read in to get the best understanding of the story. As well as go ahead and tell you that the pairings are worth paying attention to. Which would be yoonkook, taejoon, jihope and then Jin is our main character basically. So yes, if you were just watching the videos, you definitely missed major chunks of the storyline. Also worth noting, the storyline can contain trigger warnings for violence, mental and physical abuse, suicide, suicidal thoughts, substance abuse, homicide, and parental neglect. So just make sure you are good with all that before really digging into it.
The list, including links, in order of release:
BTS Begins Concert VCR
I Need U (original 19+ MV)
HYYH On Stage Prologue Video
Run MV
I Need U Japan MV
Run Japan MV
Epilogue Young Forever MV
Short Films 1 - 7 (Begin, Lie, Stigma, First Love, Reflection, Mama, Awake)
Blood Sweat and Tears MV
Blood Sweat and Tears Japan MV
The Wings Concept Book
Testesso "Smeraldo" Flower Shop Blog
Love Yourself Poster Translations
HYYH the Notes: Seokjin Translation
Highlight Reel: '起承轉結'
HYYH the Notes: Her
Euphoria: Theme of LY Wonder
HYYH the Notes: Jungkook Translation
Fake Love Teaser 1
Fake Love Extended Edition MV
HYYH the Notes: Tear
HYYH the Notes: Seokjin Translation
Comeback Trailer: Epiphany
HYYH the Notes: Answer
Smeraldo Books Twitter Account
Save Me Webtoon (15 episodes)
HYYH the Notes Book 1
HYYH the Notes: Persona
Game Concept Trailer
HYYH the Notes: 7
HYYH the Notes Book 2
BTS Universe Story Game
Some extra context, for the Testesso Smeraldo flower shop blog, this was started and found by ARMY after Seokjin tweeted out a photo with Smeraldo Flowers a couple days before the Love Yourself Era was introduced in 2017. It's a naver blog that is run by the owner of the fictional smeraldo flower shop that Jin encounters in the storyline. The blog basically describes the history of the flower leading up to the shops opening. None of the BU characters are named in the blog, but there are lots of hints pointing towards Seokjin being the customer that is described in multiple posts. The blog also has only been active and updating recently whenever BTS is having a comeback and starting a new era. The mentioned dates of the flower shop alleged openings have always been at the same time as BTS ends up announcing for their comeback. And the Smeraldo Books Twitter account was first opened with the introduction of the Save Me Webtoon Tweet. And has since posted notes for books 1 and 2, which contained all previous notes as well as unseen and updated ones too. And something to keep in mind as you read the notes too, each album seems to be a new timeline taking place and time leaps happening. So pay attention to the dates at the top of each of the notes.
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There are many many many theories out there over wtf is even happening in this storyline. But there are a few key plot points that are "canon" and the theories are built around those. Basically the story starts with the boys all meeting and becoming friends in high-school, in the fictional world year 19. We see them meet in BTS Begins VCR, they got in trouble for being late and punished by needing to clean up an old storage classroom. They ended up becoming friends and using this classroom as a hideout and that is the start of the story. They fall apart a bit as adults.
A really good general story overview and theory of the storyline is done by Xceleste, which you can watch here if you want too
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So since Celeste does a good job at talking about overall story plots and theories as well as pointing out things that are confirmed facts, etc. I'll just assume we all understand what's happening in the story and just talk about what things made some people think it's gay. In particular with yoonkook. Yoongi in the BU has some pretty severe attachment issues stemming from trauma. He does not want to be emotionally attached to anyone again. We see this in the notes when he is watching JK cry while playing the paino. JK himself having issues with fear of abandonment, self harm and suicide attempts (or successes depending on what timeline you are in). JK wanted someone to love him throughout his life while Yoongi was afraid of loving someone. He thought he wouldn't be able to protect Jungkook.
"I didn't want to be important for someone. I wasn't sure I could protect that someone till the end. I wasn't confident I could stand by that someone till the end. I didn't want to hurt that someone. I didn't want to get hurt" - Yoongi, The Notes, after finding JK playing the piano.
They often ended up meeting in this storage room to play piano and create music. Yoongi sharing that part of himself with JK. Despite him not wanting to care, it's clear he does when he steps in to protect JK from a teacher when they get caught in the storage room. Yoongi ends up expelled from the school and disappears. Yoonkook don't see each other again for like another 2 years. When I say this is angsty and traumatic 😭 its giving first love you never get over vibes
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Begin short film had many things burning (which is a Yoongi connection), it starts off with JK calling Hyung and has him holding a painted portrait of Yoongi as well. In Yoongis First Love short film, we see him break into a shop to play the piano again for the first time in a long time, since giving up music after he got expelled. The piano ends up burning.. In the notes, Yoongi hears his song and runs finding JK who had broken into the shop to play the piano. Them meeting again for the first time in 2 years. We see the car speed past Yoongi in First Love, and in the notes we know that it's JK playing the piano he heard before the car almost hits him in an alternate timeline.
From the Save Me Webtoon, we can assume that this meeting again after he finds JK at the piano didn't go well. Yoongi rejects JK, telling him to just go. Which ended up with Yoongi in bed alone, horribly sad and running his hand over the empty spot in bed next to him. Missing someone. Missing JK? JKs shirt is also left with Yoongi in the motel room. And in making films, Yoongi talks about how for acting in this scene, he is sad from a break up.
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In other timelines both yoonkook have attempted (and in the failed timelines, they succeed) suicides. Yoongi tries to commit suicide by fire, similar to his mother. After multiple attempts to save him, Seokjin realizes that just like Yoongi was the only one who could save Jungkook from jumping off the roof, JK is the only one who can save Yoongi.
"My last sight of this world was this dirty, isolated room, the red-hot flames and rolling heat, and JK's twisted face." - Yoongi, the notes, after he sets fire to his room and JK saves him
In the highlight reels after JKs car accident, he seems to make a friend to help him through his recovery in another girl at the hospital, but thinks of Yoongi often. Yoongi seems to have tried moving on, but not very well. He is either in a relationship with or good friends with another girl, but never seems super happy there. His breaking point being when he got a text about JK being in an accident but couldn't bring himself to go into his hospital room. Hoesok even bringing up that he should go see JK, "don't you know what you mean to him?" Being the exact quote he used that we see in the notes. Yoongi struggling to go see him because he felt that anyone close to him was bound to be hurt. When the girl Yoongi was with ends up playing at the hospital, JK recognized the music as the song he used to play with Yoongi in the storage room, and his lighter with Yoongi's initials hanging on her guitar. All his flashbacks were the softest scenes, honestly. And JK seemed to think of them so fondly. And in the behind the scenes that was filmed for those flashbacks, they were very awkward talking about the scenes they filmed and kept reiterating that it's not them in real life. Lmao which really lends to the theory they were playing boyfriends and knew the romantic undertones in these scenes playing out and what it looked like. "Complaining that they had to act like good friends" yes editors, "good friends." 🤣😅 The clip here:
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Essentially with yoonkook, it was a lot of moments interlaced within their story and the way they talked to each other/about each other that really made it clear they were VERY important to each other, more so than the relationships they had within the group setting, which those were clearly important enough to time travel for. Lol the way their story interconnects in so many little ways with romantic undertones through all the interactions. A lot of people theorized that the piano in some ways represented JK in this storyline for Yoongi, making JK his first love as well along with music. The piano played when JK is around and stopped when he got into his accident. Yoongi getting up early with JK at the sea before everyone else to sit with arms around each other, smiling and gazing out to sea. JK giving Yoongi flowers in the Euphoria timeline video. They fight in Run over Yoongi breaking a promise to JK, theorized that the promise was to live. Resulting in Yoongi smashing a mirror with Blue Roses in its reflection, which is a flower that symbolizes unattainable love.
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This is already insanely long, the main or most obvious "couple" in the BU was clearly yoonkook, but I think that there is a good argument to be made that Jihope and TaeJoon were also or had the potential to be more than just friends. Yoonkook is canon though, argue with the wall 😂
In high-school, Hoseok would walk Jimin home all the time, even though it was a really long way out of his way. They would dance together. We see videos of Jimin filming Hobi with the fondest smile on his face while he dances. He filmed Hobis dance partner too, which we learn is because Jimin wanted to be the perfect dance partner for Hoseok one day. Hoseok was also the one who took Jimin to the hospital the first time after his seizure before they didn't see each other again for 2 years. When they were both in the hospital, Hoseok slipped on the stairs and Jimin saves him. In both their short story films (Lie and Mama) we see similar situations and connections between the hospitals. We see Jimin continually look to the bed next to him, where Hoseok used to be, missing him. We see in Euphoria how Hoseok brings everyone together to help encourage Jimin to leave with them, to save Jimin from himself. Taking Jimin back home to stay at his house too. We even get in the behind the scenes for some of this footage of them in the hospital, when pretending to be in character during the scene where Jimin saves Jhope on the stairs, he calls Jhope "honey."
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Plus we are getting quotes like during Hoseoks efforts to help Jimin in the hospital and help him escape.
"He reached for my hand..."
"Jimin, I'll come back for you"
"Hoseok said he would carry you on his back if he could"
And while Hoseok was watching Jimin dancing, he said "mistakes I saw during the practice approached me differently now. The small mistakes and amateurishness actually gave a unique wave. Jimin was different from me but he had his own timing, his own style of expressing. Jimin was shining and dancing in a way that moves people's hearts."
I'm just saying, they were very "I love you, let's live for each other" type of vibes.
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Hyyh TaeJoon were basically the "be gay do crime" definition. Lol the tension in that loaded look between them as they got arrested. Like WOW okay. Plus, when Tae needed help, Namjoon was the first and only person he called. And always continues to think to call him first whenever he is in trouble. Literally placing all his faith and trust into Namjoon for a lot of things. Tae seemed to be one of the first to split off on his own. He found a new criminal friend, Namjoon seemed to have an interest in another girl for a while, but a lot seemed to stem from finding similarities of himself in her. They reconnected again in jail or in regards to being arrested (be gay do crime) later in the various timelines and quickly seem to be close again. We see similarities in their short Films as well, with the phone connections. Things or places or themselves being locked up/unreachable. We also see a lot of mirrored images through the MVs of moments that Taejoon were in together, to Tae being in alone. Alluding to feelings of lose and loneliness as well. Always again, saving each other. Looking out for each other, spending time together.
And we get quotes like this from Namjoon about Tae:
"And I asked myself: Do I believe Taehyung? And the answer was always the same."
"I feel like I'm losing my mind whenever I see him smile like that"
And from Tae about Namjoon:
"Can I stay here with you?"
"He held out his hand. I just kept looking up at him. His hand was warm."
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Plus then we have the behinds where they say the scene they are filming is romantic and they are on a date, with Joon laying on Tae's arm 😅😂 idk what else to say about that. Lmfao
Basically HYYH BU is angsty trauma filled depression, queer youth found family with pillow fights, all the elements, and lots of flannel. And trauma. Trauma should be in this list 8 times. So much yearning and angst and hurt and trauma 😭 and now with Yet to Come being tagged "the most beautiful moment in life" aka HYYH, people are speculating that maybe we will finally get a conclusion to the BU storyline and everyone just wants a happy ending please. Lol there is honestly a lot more we could dig into to talk about symbolism and different motifs used. And all the potential queer coding happening, intentional or accidental. I know I definitely focused mostly on yoonkook here, but they really had the most going on. Like for real and the most angsty yearning codependency while being avoidant tendencies. Lol
Again, this is ALL FICTIONAL. THEY ARE ACTING AND PLAYING CHARACTERS. Lol please don't take any of this and translate it into real life relationships or scenarios. And again, this is mostly all theory too. So you can also go through and read all the stories (the notes books are still available for purchase on weverse) and decide for yourself what you think is happening. And it's okay to be confused. I'm still a little confused honestly too. Lol thanks for the ask. Sorry this is a whole ass essay and it took me so long! 💜
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99liners · 4 years ago
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no offense but if dynamite won, i would be upset. BTS been writing GRAMMY worthy songs since 2013. take butterfly for instance, one of my top favourite songs and THAT deserves a GRAMMY. don't give two shits about Western validation, it is all a farce. i have never watched a western award show even back in 2017 when they made a comeback of DNA on the AMAs. i have no interest in those shows whatsoever and i have never watched a single one whereas i have watched my fair share of Korean award shows, live, so basically watching hours through a show of a language i do not understand and yet it gave me more joy. somehow i understand the jokes and laughed with them. Western award shows can never. so they can keep their Grammy. dynamite is just not it, not when my boys had no part in it, not when it has lyrics that make 0 sense (don't fight me on this, honey), not when they have songs like 2!3!, blanket kick, all the solos from Wings, whole ass WINGS and HYYH (1, 2) AND their Japanese songs too like let go and don't leave me. no i refuse to accept Grammys for Dynamite. the Grammys cannot measure their artistry bbs, bts are waaaaaay ahead all these stupid shows. they were always way ahead of time and still are.
they deserve better than the xenophobia graciously served to them and we have the ignorant whites to thank for that. cannot even pronounce names correct, bitch ass noobs. and that is all that bugs me, have a good night.
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namjoonia · 4 years ago
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BTS SONGS STUDY MASTERLIST
Masterlist of posts about BTS talking about song-writing process, lyrics and other creative amazing things they do artistically. 
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   Members talking about the Dynamite mv during comeback live     Members about their favorite music videos for MTV    WINGS - 4th Anniversary
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Special series for 10-year anniversary.  | MASTERPOST 
• 2013 • 2014 • 2015 • 2016 • 2017 • 2018 • 2019 • 2020 • 2021 • 2022 • 2023
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_💜💜💜💜💜💜💜_
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8 ANNIVERSARY WITH BTS | SERIES  - abandoned 
• JIN                  |  LINK  • SUGA             |  LINK • RM     • HOBI  • JIMIN • V  • JUNGKOOK 
🦋   HYYH  -  5th Anniversary                     Part 1                    Part 2 (soon)
“BE” ALBUM CONCEPT EDITS (SERIES POST) 
Namjoon  Jin Yoongi  Hoseok Jimin Taehyung Jungkook
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  Namjoon about “We Are Bulletproof: Eternal”     Namjoon about choosing Persona for the album theme    Namjoon about Mono (2nd Anniversary post)   Trivia: Love
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SONGS SERIES I.   |  POST MASTERLIST    Revisiting Namjoons thoughts from his vlives and interviews about the creative process of songwriting, producing and writing lyrics  
 PART 1 (Spring Day, Magic Shop, I’m Fine)   PART 2 - SOLO (Reflection, Forever Rain, Trivia 承: Love)  PART 3 - Jungian Scheme (Persona, Shadow, Ego)  PART 4 - Together (2!3!, Mikrokosmos, Answer: Love Myself)  PART 5 - Vocal line (Lost, The Truth Untold, 00:00 Zero O’Clock)  PART 6 - Rap Line (Outro: Tear, Outro: Her, UGH)   PART 7 - Maknae line (Begin, Serendipity, Singularity)  PART 8 - Hyung Line (Awake, First Love, MAMA)   PART 9 - Gamechangers Pt. 1 (Blood, Sweat & Tears, DNA, IDOL)  PART 10 - Gamechangers Pr. 2 (ON, Fake Love, Boy With Love)
🌼 SQUISHY  WEEK  Joons birthday celebration  Day 1: Favorite habit Day 2: Favorite lyrics  Day 3: Favorite vlive  Day 4: Favorite live performance  Day 5: Favorite Joon moments 
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  D-2 SPECIAL SERIES | MASTER POST  - ONGOING  Special birthdays series for D-2 mixtape, song by song through Yoongis own words 
PART I.        link        • m o o n l i g h t  PART II.       link       •  w h a t  d o  y o u  t h i n k ? PART III.      link       • s t r a n g e  feat. R M  PART IV.      link       • 2 8 feat. NiiHWA PART V.       link       • Burn It  feat. MAX  PART VI.      link       • People  PART VII      link      • Hansool  PART VIII.    link      • Interlude: Set Me Free  PART IX.      link      • Dear My Friend feat. Kim Jong Wan  PART X.       soon
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SONG SERIES II.  - PAUSED Lyrics series about debut albums, inspired by SUGA reviews between 2013 and 2015. ○ POST MASTERLIST                    PART I. - 2 Cool To Skool     (x)                   PART II. - Skool Luv Affair    (x)                   PART III. - DARK & WILD     (x)                    PART IV. - HYYH - Pt. 1       (x)                     PART VI. - BE                       (x)
•  SUGA about Agust D rising high only to rise even higher
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○ HOBI SONG SERIES MASTERLIST  - PAUSED 
HOPE WORLD PART I      |  LINK   (Hope World + Daydream) PART II     |  LINK  (Airplane)  PART III    |  LINK (P.O.P, Base Line, Blue Side)  BANGTAN WORLD     PART IV     |  LINK PART V    |  LINK PART VI   |  coming soon HOBI WORLD PART VII   |  coming soon PART VII    |  coming soon PART IX     |  coming soon
DANCE MACHINE  PART X     | coming soon 
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ᴊɪɴ ꜱᴏʟᴏ ꜱᴏɴɢ ꜱᴇʀɪᴇꜱ   |   ꜱᴇʀɪᴇꜱ ᴘᴏꜱᴛ
ᴇᴘɪꜱᴏᴅᴇ 1 - ᴀꜱᴛʀᴏɴᴀᴜᴛ ᴇᴘɪꜱᴏᴅᴇ 2 - ᴇᴘɪᴘʜᴀɴʏ ᴇᴘɪꜱᴏᴅᴇ 3 - ᴍᴏᴏɴ ᴇᴘɪꜱᴏᴅᴇ 4 - ꜱᴜᴘᴇʀ ᴛᴜɴᴀ ᴇᴘɪꜱᴏᴅᴇ 5 - ᴀᴡᴀᴋᴇ   ᴇᴘɪꜱᴏᴅᴇ 6 - ᴀʙʏꜱꜱ ᴇᴘɪꜱᴏᴅᴇ 7 - ᴛᴏɴɪɢʜᴛ
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Jimin and his solo songs (Birthday post) 🎈 
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Taehyung solo songs in short (Birthday post) 🎈
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Jungkook about his solo songs (Birthday post)  🎈
OTHER 
ON:E PARALLELS  Intro: Persona  Interlude: Shadow 
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charmedseoull · 4 years ago
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Interview with sugamins about her work House of Cards (Ao3′s second most hit English work and most hit BTS work)
Before You Read the Interview
Archive of Our Own Transcript
Reddit Transcript Part 1 / Part 2
House of Cards is documented within the Top 50 Most Hit BTS Works on Archive of Our Own Project, otherwise known as T50BTS, by Charmedseoul. It is the second most hit English work on the Archive of Our Own platform, most hit BTS work, and 16th most hit work overall. It centers around the internationally popular K-Pop idol group BTS (Bangtan Sonyeondan) with the main characters being Park Jimin, Kim Taehyung, and Jeon Jungkook. This work is being documented for historical purposes for the Fanlore website with its own page. Charmedseoul is a BTS-focused anonymous historian who plans to eventually document each of the top 50 most hit BTS work on Ao3 as in depth as this one. If you are in contact with any of the authors of these works, please contact her on Twitter @charmedseoul or on Tumblr @charmedseoull.
Parts of this interview have been edited with links to Fanlore and Wikipedia pages for understanding. Any information in [brackets] serves for further clarity for readers and elaboration of information.
Disclaimers: This interview contains spoilers for the BTS Archive of Our Own work House of Cards. The story’s Archive of Our Own tags contain violence and gangster activity, along with discussion of prostitution and drug use. The full tag list is:
Alternate Universe - Gangsters
Gang Violence
Violence
Drugs
Drug Use
Explicit Sexual Content
Explicit Language
Blood and Gore
Blood and Torture
Gambling
Gunplay
Undercover
Disturbing Themes
Homophobic Language
Attempted Rape/Non-Con
Xenophobia
Dom/sub
Threesome - M/M/M
Drug Addiction
Dubious Consent
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House of Cards by sugamins is a multi-chapter Archive of Our Own fanfiction that follows police officer Kim Taehyung’s undercover operation into the gangster world of Haedogje Pa. Jeon Jungkook, shrouded in an air of mystery and dubbed “The Boy,” is the heir to this crime empire. Park Jimin lives with him, acting as a lover of sorts in a high, pristine penthouse apartment. The story follows the three and their complicated relationship where sex, violence, and drugs surround them. Kim Taehyung tries to take down the empire as his moral lines of black and white begin blurring into gray. In this crime-ridden alternate reality to Seoul, everything from the structure of the gangster world to the trust between three lovers is as fragile as a house of cards.
Now presenting the interview with sugamins, author of Archive of Our Own’s second most hit English work and most hit BTS work, House of Cards:
How did you start writing?
How did you get into fanfiction?
How much writing experience did you have prior to House of Cards?
Do you have any literary or artistic inspirations? Any other authors or works that have inspired you to create anytime before or after House of Cards?
How did you become an ARMY [ARMY stands for Adorable Representative MC for the Youth. It is the fandom name for fans of BTS, otherwise known as Bangtan Sonyeondan]?
I started writing fanfiction in 2012. But before then, I used to enjoy writing stories as a child and young teenager. I used to write and illustrate my own stories. I even had a sketchbook filled with my own comic book, which was terrible! But I've always been creative. It started with art and then I moved onto writing when I discovered I was able to be much more creative with my words rather than my pencil.
I first got into fanfiction through my years spent on Tumblr. I had always known that it had existed, but I had never really gone looking for it because I hadn't belonged to a fandom at that point in my life. It was back in 2012 when I stumbled upon an EXO fanfic that a lot of people were talking about (Arbitrage, you can find it on Livejournal.) I read it and then thought...wow, so this is fanfiction! From that point, I started reading more and more, mostly Infinite fanfiction. And then I decided to start writing with the encouragement of an old online friend, and here I am!
In terms of writing experience, I have never formally received education. I stopped studying English Language and Literature when I was 16, instead focusing on Art, History, and Religious Education (purely because I wanted to learn about philosophy and quantum mechanics) for my final two years at high-school. The only experience I have is through writing fanfiction. I started back in 2012, and I've developed a lot since then. I started off small, writing horror short stories and little collections. Brotherhood was the first 'long fic' I created. I was shocked that it managed to get so big because I had never created a story of that size before. Writing helped me gain experience and figure out what worked and what didn't work, what I was good at writing, and where I was lacking and needed to learn. I don't think you can really experience an art form until you start doing it. You can learn all about the techniques and the conventions, but until you pick up a pen and start writing or drawing, you won't ever know what it means to create.
My literary inspiration has always been Stephen King. Which is funny, as he has described himself as 'having diarrhea of the typewriter.' I think that applies to me sometimes. I am a bit of a wordy writer, though I've started honing it down for certain stories. Sometimes, a story needs to be floral and descriptive, sometimes, it needs to be punchy and direct. So, King was my major inspiration, especially with horror. I also enjoy the works of Poe and Lovecraft (I acknowledge the problematic themes in the work of Lovercraft and seek not to praise him as a person. He was a terrible person for sure, but sadly, he had a way with cosmic horror that is hard to find.) I also enjoy Chuck Palahniuk and the dark, seedy and overall zany stories that he has created. I like his style a lot!
In terms of inspirations for House of Cards, I was obviously inspired by the films Infernal Affairs/The Departed. American Gangster and Training Day were also major inspirations (and also because I love Denzel Washington's performances in both films. I mean, who doesn't love him?) But I also drew inspiration from other sources that were less focused on gangs, more focused on the dark, nihilistic state of the world around us. I couldn't recommend the TV series True Detective hard enough. It is one of the best series I have ever watched. It handles dark and disturbing content so well, and its fractured, unreliable story-telling and philosophical musing is some of the best I've ever seen on screen. I highly recommend checking it out, but be sure to check the content warning and triggers because it certainly isn't suitable for younger audiences and those with triggers. In terms of real-life content, I think Ross Kemps' docu-series are very good. Particularly Extreme World and On Gangs. His docu-series show the dark and disturbing side of criminal activity, the drug trade and more. 
I became a fan of BTS [Bangtan Sonyeondan] back in 2013. I had already been a fan of K-Pop for some time by then, as I had started listening to various K-Pop and K-Rock artists back in 2009. I knew of their debut, but I had seen hundreds of new acts debut by the time that they broke into the scene, and so I didn't pay much heed. Someone I followed on Tumblr at the time kept posting about how much she loved them, especially Taehyung [BTS V/Kim Taehyung]. One day, I stumbled upon a gifset of Yoongi [BTS Suga/Min Yoongi] being sarcastic in one of their first interviews. I thought he was funny, so I decided to check them out. At the time, they had recently released We Are Bulletproof Pt. 2 [BTS’s second music video release with their debut album 2 Kool 4 Skool]. I followed them from that point, and their first comeback [A “comeback” refers to when a K-Pop idol group releases new music, usually done twice a year.] was also my first comeback. I liked their music [BTS released Boy In Luv and Just One Day in 2014, both music videos of songs from their Skool Luv Affair EP.], but I liked them even more as individuals. I loved watching their shows [Here is a link to BTS’s schedule during 2014 when they had their first comeback. You can find the shows and interviews they were on there.], even though they are incredibly embarrassing to look back on now. They just had so much energy and looked to be having so much fun that I was having fun just watching them. I was a fan, I liked a lot of their songs and followed their activities. But it wasn't until they released HYYH Part One [Hwa Yang Yeon Hwa Part 1 (Korean) = The Most Beautiful Moment in Life Pt. 1 (This is the title in English), released with the I Need U and Dope music videos.] that I really became a fan of their music. I had already created a couple of small horror stories for the fandom at that point. HYYH Part One [The Most Beautiful Moment in Life Pt. 1] inspired me so much that I created Brotherhood, my first 'long fic.' I joined AO3 [Archive of Our Own] and started posting there. I received so much support from fellow fans that I carried on writing, and the rest is history!
How has your experience being an ARMY [Adorable Representative MCs of the Youth, BTS’s global fan base name.] been? Did you ever leave the fandom then come back? How did you interact with others when you first got into the fandom and as you grew up?
How have you been since you wrote House of Cards? What have you been working on? 
Are you okay with talking about how old you are now and how old you were when you wrote House of Cards?
Before you even wrote House of Cards, what inspired it? Any TV shows? Music? Movies? Books? Ideas? It could be anything.
How did you start writing House of Cards? Did you finish the entire story then publish it or did you write it as you went? What was the writing process like?
Did you have any beta readers or editors? If you did, are you still in contact with them now? How did they feel about your work?
My experience being a fan has mostly been positive over the years. In the earlier days, back around when I first started writing for the fandom, it was certainly much more positive. I've received so much support over the years, not only in my writing but in my personal life from readers and fellow fans that being a fan of the boys [The members of BTS] really has changed my life. That's not an exaggeration. I doubt I would even be here now without those years having such a positive effect on my mental health. I've never really been the kind to interact with others and form cliques within the fandom, I just like being in my own space and interacting with everyone that comes my way, I guess?
These days, I'm not as active as a writer or in fandom spaces however. I feel like my time in the fandom has started to come up and I don't know how I feel about it just yet. I feel nostalgic for the time when I was first starting out in the fandom and I didn't really know much, but everything was fun. It doesn't feel so fun now, but I mostly contribute that to the effect that Twitter has had on shaping the fandom's growth. Twitter has never been a good place for creatives within fandoms because of issues with algorithms and such. Tumblr was always the better website for hosting artistic content for a variety of reasons. So, I think the fact that everything is on Twitter now has been partly responsible for my decline in engagement and overall enjoyment. I'm currently taking a break from Twitter. The next couple of months will be what makes me either stay or leave the fandom.
Since writing House of Cards, I've been an active writer in the fandom. Over the years, I've added quite a lot of stories to my AO3 accounts and various pseuds. My largest ongoing story is another gang story, set in the 1980s, called Valentino Summers. I actually started writing and publishing it on Ao3 just four or so months after I finished House of Cards—which is wild to think about. Finally finishing House of Cards seems like such a long time ago in my mind, and yet I'm still working on a story I created that same year! I like contributing horror stories to the fandom, especially in the Halloween period. I like publishing series in the month/upcoming weeks before Halloween—though I won't be doing so this year [2020].
When I started writing House of Cards, I would have just turned 22. It was inspired by the song 'Wires' by The Neighbourhood. I might be mistaken, but I believe that Jungkook [BTS Jungkook/Jeon Jungkook] posted a tweet with the song in it. [Jungkook did tweet about this song. Here is the English translation.] I had never heard of the band before, but my partner was a fan of their music. She sent the song to me and I was very interested in the lyrics, so I started discussing them with her. One thing led to the next, and then we had basically come up with the entire plot of the story. We just needed to create the characters. We spent a little while doing so, and then I started doing some research and started writing the story. There really isn't a grand backstory to House of Cards, it just happened so fast. We often come up with story ideas like that, and my partner is responsible for a huge amount of my stories. She has the creative visions, which I then turn into words. We make quite the team, haha~ The inspirations, I mentioned those in my previous answer regarding films and TV shows.
I published the story as I went, though I staggered the updates because I didn't want to post too frequently. I had the entire story planned out from the start——I didn't change a single aspect of the story no matter what I received in terms of feedback. I think a lot of readers assume that writers might tweak things if they sense the audience wants something to happen in terms of plot or relationships. Personally, I don't like doing that. I like sticking to my plans even if I know my vision might not be what the readers want. I think it's important for the story to be created the way I see it because my vision is what made me create it, if that makes sense.
The writing process was surprisingly smooth! You might not think it because the story is big and there are a lot of characters and plot threads to keep on top of, but it went smoothly for me. It flowed just as smoothly from start to finish as Brotherhood did. I never struggled once with writing the chapters, nor did I ever get stuck and wonder if I should change the content in order to make it easier to write. I'm surprised that I managed to complete it so easily because that's not the case with writing now! I tend to be a lot slower now, more deliberate and more open to changes in order to ease the process and the overall flow of the story. In a way, this change has been for the best. I do wonder what House of Cards would be like if I were to write it now, with my different approach to planning and writing. It would probably have a quicker flow, and the word count would either go down as a result of cuts, or go up because of additional scenes I would have likely included.
I didn't have any betas, which you can probably tell from the work. My stories are so big that I never wanted to put the burden of fixing them onto someone else. I know they are imperfect, oftentimes bloated things, but that's just what they are. I did try creating a story with another writer in the past, but it didn't go very well. She would often have conflicting opinions on things and would not have any leeway for anything I suggested, whereas I always had leeway to allow her to change things. Even to the point of completely changing the plot of the story that I had already started writing, and then allowing her to add graphic sexual content she didn't even want to be in the story. She actually stopped writing fanfiction randomly in the middle of us creating the story! She made a post about it being disgusting and nasty and then bowed out. I have no clue if she ever came back! So, my negative experience with attempting to work with someone else when creating a story kind of made me not want to have a beta. It's a wild story, I know!
House of Cards is praised for its realism and accuracy with weaponry, torture, sex, and violence. How did you research these things?
How did you come up with the gangster universe in House of Cards? How did you develop Haedogje Pa?
How did you name the original characters in House of Cards? Did any characters in particular take inspiration from existing characters in TV shows, anime, books, any type of media?
How did you decide on Vminkook as your main characters for the story? What do you see in their dynamic and them as characters?
Jimin is claimed to be one of the best written characters in the entire story. What was your thought process when characterizing him and developing him?
Taehyung is an especially dynamic character whose morals get tested time and time again in House of Cards. What was your thought process when characterizing him and developing him?
Jungkook is one of the characters that the readers spend the least amount of time getting a perspective from, but is incredibly well written in his character progression. What was your thought process when characterizing him and developing him?
When it came to various aspects in the story, I did do research. Most of it never really had an impact on the story itself. For example, I would be looking up gun models that are used by law enforcement agencies around the world and trying to find specs of them so I could learn how many bullets each gun held, or how much a magazine could hold. In action scenes, I didn't want my characters firing off 20+ bullets for a gun that—in reality—holds far less. That's a fact that doesn't really mean much to the average reader, but it meant something to me! I've always hated how many bullets fly through the air in action scenes in films and TV shows because I'm always wondering if it's possible with the firearms featured in the scene haha~ In terms of torture, I've come across the subject through various documentaries and TV shows about gangs, crime and serial killers. I didn't really do much additional research into the topic, beyond reading up on what I had come across to make sure it wasn't fictionalised for drama purposes. Obviously, there will be some lack of realism in my story because I couldn't possibly write a realistic portrayal of gang violence and torture when I have zero personal experience with it. My aim wasn't to give the story 'full' realism (I'll explain more about that in the next question) but to simply create a world that felt real, even if there were little aspects that had to be exaggerated for the sake of the story. Taehyung's behaviour when undercover certainly broke many procedures. The only thing working in his favour that allowed him to get away with it is that the crimes he committed couldn't be directly traced to him. But a real undercover agent would never do the things that he did on behalf of the gang. Basically, this means that the entire story is unrealistic! But of course, it wouldn't be very entertaining if Taehyung simply observed from the background and didn't dirty his hands. So, I had to bend and break the rules a little!
For the universe, I knew that I couldn't base it too much in reality. Because of basic Korean law, it would have been impossible for me to write the gang operating in the way they did in the story—especially with guns. Most Korean gangs tend to use other forms of violence and weapons in order to control their respective areas, rather than guns. My other story, Taste of Ink, has what I would consider a more realistic approach to gang activity—with the main weapons being knives, baseball bats, etc. and the main forms of violence being assault instead of flat-out murder. So, for the sake of allowing guns to appear in the story, I had to create a Neo-Seoul, so to speak. I took inspiration from Korean gangs, and mixed it with influences from other gang cultures in order to create 'Haedogje Pa.'
When it comes to naming original characters, I honestly don't put much thought into it. I like to use real names for inspiration. I often Google various Korean films I've watched and read the cast list in order to find interesting character and actor names. This is because I have a habit of reusing names sometimes. For example, readers of my stories might have come across a couple of Daesu and Goohee characters. Do you know where I got these names from? I picked Daesu from Oh Daesu - Choi Minsik's character in Oldboy. Goohee comes from the manhwa 'Let Dai' - he is the stubborn gang leader that actually has a good heart beneath his rough exterior. I ended up liking him the most by the end of the story, so his name is one that often comes to mind when I need to pick an original character name.
I never really consider real life dynamics when I'm writing because my stories are so detached from reality that it seems pointless including any inspiration from reality. I chose the three main characters simply because, at the time, they seemed to fit the character moulds the best. The other characters fit their respective characters so well (especially Namjoon [BTS RM/Kim Namjoon] and Yoongi) that I simply thought it was best to have Taehyung, Jimin [BTS Jimin/Park Jimin] and Jungkook as the three lead roles. I chose them more based on how I thought they could personally fit the characters, rather than focus on the dynamic. To use Taehyung as an example, I thought that he would fit the character of the informant in my story because in reality, he is intelligent and seemed like he would suit the role. For Jimin, I thought he would be a good choice for a character that some might think is vulnerable or even weak. He is actually very strong and the most important character for the plot progression. For Jungkook, I liked the thought of someone with such an innocent outer appearance hiding a dark secret.
I'm so glad that readers took to Jimin so positively on a whole. I know there are some that hated him, or that hated the fact I chose him for such a role (a 'negative' sex worker role). But Jimin is the most important character for the plot progression. It is through him that the entire plan finally culminates in the explosive finish. I wanted to treat him with care because I understood that his character could go very wrong if not handled correctly. It would have been easy for him to simply become nothing more than a sexual prop, should the story have focused too much on Taehyung and Jungkook as the key players. So, I decided to subvert it by giving Jimin the ultimate hand in the story and allowing him to have more control than Jungkook in the end. If Jimin had not decided to follow through with the plan, if he had decided to snitch or had simply refused to do his part in exposing the gang, the story would've ended drastically differently. But I also didn't want to write Jimin taking control of the entire situation at the end because it would've felt ingenuine. He is a character that has been deeply affected by a lifetime of trauma. I was worried that some might take my portrayal of his trauma the wrong way, and see him not as a character that has suffered immense mental damage but rather as an annoying, weak character that gets in the way of more 'interesting' dynamics. I'm sure there will be readers that think that. Mentally traumatized individuals are often seen in such negative light, be they fictional characters or real people. When writing his character, especially in the later scenes, I wanted to make sure the trauma he experienced would shape his behaviour. Writing the scene of him getting ready to leave, when he is taking his pills and he doesn't think he can do it, it was hard. It was hard getting into that headspace of feeling so powerless in the moment and knowing that freedom is in reach, but not knowing how to achieve it. He was a difficult character to write, but I think he turned out just right in the end.
Taehyung was probably the best character to write. I love characters that start off so morally upright and pristine, and by the end of the story, their backs are bending and close to breaking from the weight of their conscience and misdeeds. His character has many facets to him that made his perspectives so interesting to tackle. From his green days in the gang, where he is horrified by the violence he sees, to the changes in his psyche as he starts to become desensitized to it all. Fundamentally, Taehyung begins the story as a good man, a hero, but by the end, there is no black and white thinking. He has become grey, muddied from his time spent in the gang. Is he a hero for bringing them down? Would a hero do the things that he did in order to bring down the gang? He killed people. He tortured people. He threatened a man with a gun, a man he knew had a deepset fear of guns that would severely trigger him. I think it all depends on how the reader sees it. The hardest thing to write for his character was his troubled descent into the relationship between him, Jungkook and Jimin, and how it affects his thought processes and emotions. I didn't want House of Cards to be seen as a romantic story when I created it. If readers see it that way, they are more than entitled to their own interpretations. I cannot tell them how they can interpret my art, that is not my role as the creator. I don't know if I effectively portrayed the co-dependency between the three main characters as well as I would've liked. But I had never tackled such a story and themes before, and so it was all new to me.
I didn't know that Jungkook had the least perspective from the three main characters. Similarly, I never really put that much effort into creating and developing his character! Jungkook simply 'happened' in the moment. He would appear in the chapter, and then his character would basically take control of the scene. I never really knew what he was going to say or do beyond my rough plans for each scene. I just waited until he appeared and let the creative spirit flow through me. That's how he came to be! I've had that happen many times in the past with characters—they have a life of their own and I've no control over them. In my story, Brotherhood, Taehyung happened the same way. It was impossible to write his character in that story because he was so wild and free-spirited that it didn't feel right unless his behaviour was a total spur-of-the-moment reaction to the other characters and new plot points. But with Jungkook in House of Cards, I don't know why I didn't have him planned out like the others. It's interesting to think that he might've had a good progression when I never planned any of it in detail!
Were there any original characters you particularly liked writing or enjoyed?
When you wrote for the BTS hyung line, how did you determine their roles in the story and characterize each of them?
Is there a reason behind Namjoon saying “brother” or was it a consciously written character quirk?
When you handled more serious subject matter in House of Cards, how did you feel when writing it? Were you ever startled by your own work?
Was there any type of purposeful titling for the fanfiction chapters?
What was your reason for House of Cards’ open ending?
I liked writing Lim, the original informant that helped Taehyung join the gang. I like writing characters that come across as sleazy. In his case, the sleaze was all an act and wasn't true to his character; he was affecting it for the sake of creating a persona. But I enjoy writing absolute sleaze balls too—the kind of guys that have chest hair and wear gold chains and thick watches, who practically ooze oil. I just find them fun! Lim was a good teacher, even when he was rough around the edges. It was sad doing what I had to do to him for the sake of the plot. But I feel like Lim understood the game as well as everyone else, and so he knew he was running on borrowed time. 
Of course, I loved writing Bae Goohee too! He was an absolute bastard! I loved writing this figure that is spoken about throughout the story as a frightening man, one so brutal that the readers are already wary of him before he even appears in the story. I believe that Taehyung refers to him as a 'guard dog' at some point. I think Bae is the scariest character in the story for me because he is so ruthless and willing to do any order that the Jeon clan give to him. That kind of blind and unwavering devotion is frightening!
I also enjoyed writing Sungah and Jangmi. I think they're the only female characters in the story that have dialogue? Sungah has a great backstory that I unfortunately couldn't go into too much in the story, but it shaped her character a lot. I like how frank and intelligent she is—she holds her own even in a department filled with men that receive far more praise than she does simply because she is a woman. She also allowed me to add an angle about the unfair treatment of women in jobs that have power, drawing parallels with how Taehyung faces discrimination from his fellow officers when his sexuality is abruptly revealed during the investigation. As for Jangmi, I just liked writing about the wife of a mob boss! And not one that is simply a trophy wife, but actually has a lot of power and influence across the city. I wish I had been able to feature her more, alongside her husband, Jeon himself. But I like the scenes they appear in and I enjoyed writing them.
For the rest of the members, I had Namjoon and Hoseok [BTS J-Hope/Jung Hoseok]'s characters planned right from the start. I had also created plans for Yoongi and Seokjin [BTS Jin/Kim Seokjin], but I wasn't sure how much of a role they would play in the overall story. As I started writing them, I realised that Yoongi would play an important role in both Taehyung and Jimin's character development, and so he ended up featuring a lot more than I had expected. I planned their jobs and then let them influence how I would write them. Namjoon and Hoseok's characters came naturally. Yoongi's character completely took over his job role and basic description and became a really strong character that I'm proud of. Seokjin was a little trickier because he doesn't appear in too many scenes—but the scenes he does are integral to the plot. I needed to make sure that his character said everything he needed to in his limited scenes. He has quite the bombshell to drop after all! Seokjin was also tricky because I wanted him to have an air of mystery around him. I wanted him to be the kind of guy that not even Taehyung and his police connections would be able to unearth much about; a ghost in the system. I would've also liked for him to feature more in the story, but I feel like his character appeared in the essential scenes that the story needed. He was going to feature more in the planned sequel, being one of the first characters to appear alongside Yoongi. He was going to serve an important role, so I'm disappointed that I didn't get to show those scenes to readers.
With Namjoon, I wanted to portray him as a mature character, but not one that was conservative and stiff. I thought about having him say things like 'man' but that seemed too casual and didn't suit his character. 'Man' made him seem more like a surfer than a police officer. But when he said 'brother' in one of the scenes, I realised the word suited him better. It was fraternal, and it allowed him to show some affection towards the other characters without having to have physical contact with them. It's not the only Namjoon I've written that says 'brother' a lot. In Valentino Summers, Namjoon has experience with hippies in the neighbourhood that he lives in, so he also refers to other characters like Jimin as 'brother.' It just seems to suit him! I guess it's because I like creating Namjoon characters that are intelligent and mature, but still have a gentle and warm presence. I could picture him saying it in real life (I'm certain he already has!)
When writing serious subject matter, I'm surprised to admit that I was never shocked by what I was writing! I guess it's because I already knew that I was going to be handling dark themes. I wouldn't have tackled such subjects had I not felt comfortable doing so. Dark content isn't for everyone, and by that I don't simply mean consuming it. Creating it can be very difficult for some writers, and can even cause distress. It's not easy diving into a world that is filled with crime, pain and fear. It's even harder putting yourself into the shoes of a character that is suffering/has suffered. I was never writing in a desensitised state though. Far from it. I'm actually very sensitive to violence in reality. In fiction, it depends on the violence—but I'm usually not too affected by it. I've been a fan of horror since I was a child, and so I've seen a lot of nasty films filled with gore and 'shocking' deaths that never really had much of an effect on me. Unrealistic violence doesn't scare me. But when it comes to personal violence, that is always frightening to me. It's far scarier writing a scene where a character feels threatened by another character and doesn't know what is going to happen to them then, say, writing a scene of a character dying a bloody, ridiculous death in a horror story. Personal violence is much more realistic, therefore it is more unsettling to write. In House of Cards, the violence is very personal. It's in your face, it's inescapable for the characters that are involved in it. But at no point did I ever feel like I needed to stop writing because I was uncomfortable or scared by the content. If I had been uncomfortable, it would have been very reckless of me to continue writing the story.
My word of advice to fellow dark content writers: it's always important to recognise your own boundaries. There's nothing wrong with removing dark content from a story if you get a bad vibe or feel strange when writing/reviewing it. Always follow your gut instincts and never put out work that you don't like.
When writing stories, I vary between titling the chapters and leaving them blank. For House of Cards, I cannot remember the exact method for naming the chapters. Sometimes, the title comes to me when I am writing the plans and I have an idea that just suits the mood of the chapter. Other times, I have finished the entire chapter and I have to spend some time reviewing the content to decide that the title will be. In some cases, I have finished most of a whole story and I'm still not certain what to title it! I feel like with House of Cards, the titles came after the chapters were finished, or at least when they were works-in-progress.
There are some titles that really stand out to me. 'Nice Teeth' for example, is a really ridiculous title. Going into the chapter, I don't think many readers would've imagined what it could mean. 'Submachine Sodomy' is even funnier. I really can't believe I chose that as a title! I'll bet a lot of readers saw it and thought, "Oh no! Not another gunplay scene!" Luckily for them, it wasn't a reference to Jungkook's predilection for firearms in bed.
In terms of chapter titles that I really like: 'Delusions of Grandeur,' 'I Own This Fucking City,' 'Sleeping Dogs Bite' and 'Carpe-fucking-Diem.' I just feel like these titles are very well suited to the contents of the chapters. They are the kind of titles that have bite to them, that hint at action or an important plot point.
As for the open ending, there are a couple of reasons. First of all, I had planned to continue the story in a sequel that would pick up after the events of House of Cards, roughly a year on after the investigation. However, I did not pursue this sequel. I wanted House of Cards to end on an open note for the sequel to continue the story. When it comes to certain stories, I just feel that closed endings aren't always necessary. I often enjoy stories with open endings. With House of Cards, it didn't seem right just closing the book and saying it was over. There was still so much that needed to be explored. Unfortunately, I decided to not continue it. But I still think that House of Cards' ending fits the story.
Were there any scenes or moments or lines in House of Cards that you were particularly proud of or want to highlight?
If you were to write the Yoomin sequel to House of Cards, how would’ve that looked like?
How were readers’ reactions to your work in the beginning?
Did any reader comments stick with you in particular?
How did you take the criticisms and hatred towards House of Cards for its serious subject matter? When did those types of comments start appearing? Also, where did the hatred come from? Twitter? Tumblr? Ao3 comments? Did people harass you at all or hurt you? How did you heal from that?
House of Cards has a lot of scenes. I'm proud of most of them and I think I did the best I could when writing them. I do not really like the sex scenes, but that is because I wanted to write them in a dirty, sleazy way. If I could, I would change them. I like the action scenes, especially the Gold Monkey Casino and police raid scenes. Action scenes are hard to write! Fight scenes in particular are so tricky. I often sit there, choreographing the fights so I can describe them! I loved writing Yoongi's introduction to the story, when he walks into the scene wearing nothing but his underpants.
One scene that I really liked writing is the scene where Namjoon and Hoseok investigate the USB stick that Taehyung sends to them. I personally love Namjoon and Hoseok's characters. I always enjoyed writing them. In this scene, I liked getting to write them in a setting that was not the police department office. A scene where they got to relax and banter with each other, even though they were still working. They discover a horrifying crime ring in the city, but they are left with no choice but to keep it secret because they do not want to risk blowing Taehyung's cover. I do not know why I really like this scene, I just do.
In the sequel, which focused primarily on Jimin and Yoongi, the plans were to have them reunite through Seokjin—who has avoided jail time through a plea deal with the SMPA. They undergo a healing process together as they try to come to terms with what happened to them. Yoongi has a lot of unhealed trauma from his childhood, much like Jimin, which I only got to briefly touch upon in House of Cards. They grow closer from bonding over their traumatic experiences, and they become happier and healthier as a result. Taehyung and Seokjin were also going to be main characters, with Jungkook, Namjoon and Hoseok making supporting appearances over the duration of the story. It was going to be drastically different from House of Cards because it would be lacking in action and violence. It would have been much more intimate, with much more scenes of characters talking and discovering things about one another.
I cannot remember early reactions to the story, I just know they were positive. There was a lot of positive support from the start. As I updated and started to get more and more into the story, I received a lot of support on tumblr too. I started posting chapter previews there, as I used to get asks [On Tumblr, users are able to ask bloggers questions through an “Ask” function. This can be done anonymously or with their own blog username associated with the question.] requesting them. I got A LOT of asks on my original Tumblr from readers that wanted to discuss the characters and certain scenes. It was really interesting seeing just how much the readers were interested in the story, so much so that they wanted to learn even more about the characters and the universe I had created.
Through House of Cards, I have received comments and messages from readers that had addictions. They told me about how they recognised their own behaviors through Taehyung, and this helped them realise what was happening to them. Those comments stuck with me for obvious reasons. I have family members with addiction issues, and knowing that I could help some stranger I have never met before come to terms with their own addictive behaviours had a massive impact on me. Funnily enough, a negative comment stuck with me. It was not a bad comment, by no means meant to cause offence. It was a comment that was left on the story when I was posting the early chapters. I recall the reader asking when the story was going to pick up the pace because it was too slow. It stuck with me because, at this point in the story, Taehyung had already trained to become an undercover agent, had enrolled in the gang, had met and interacted with Jungkook, and had murdered a man. I was surprised that this amount of development had been seen as 'slow' by a reader, as I had thought the plot had been moving very fast.
I never really had any hate posted on the story when I was updating it. I got angry reactions when I had finished it. Because the story had not ended the way some readers had wanted, I think that was what caused the negative reactions. On my original Tumblr, I even got an ask about how an anon reader was going to write their own ending because my one was bad. I told them that I did not want them to take my story and change it like that. I have no idea if they ever posted the ending anywhere. The angry reactions were mostly from shippers, who were upset with the story not ending the way they had wanted. To them, I ask: what were you expecting from the story? I thought it was always obvious that Taehyung was going to do what he had set out to do from the start, so I do not think I misled readers at all. It was a story about an undercover agent taking down a gang—and that is what I wrote.
I know there was some animosity towards me on Twitter too. Twitter is a whirlpool of negativity, I am not surprised. Writing House of Cards made me appear problematic. My partner used to follow an author a long time back, who tweeted about me being problematic—despite having never interacted with me or admittedly read my stories. It was shocking to me that people were making assumptions of who I was as a person based on a story I created. I have never created stories with the aims of hurting or upsetting others. I am a very quiet and private person, and I hate the idea of hurting others. It was strange to me that people could assume me to be this cruel or even dangerous individual, intent on hurting others, because I created a fictional story. Do they think the same of script writers for television shows? Or film directors, who create films with dark subject matter? Do they think published authors are problematic people for writing dark and disturbing content? Do they think certain genres should not exist because they do not personally like them?
I do think it is strange that fan fiction writers are placed on these ridiculously high pedestals of moral absolutism. Fan fiction was created to be a space for creative outlet for marginalised individuals, particularly queer individuals. The heavy censorship of dark and unusual content is putting this entire ethos at danger. I understand not wanting to have certain topics included in stories because there is a risk that the content can be used for grooming or can be presented in a way that can negatively affect young consumers' perceptions (like pedophilia for example.) I certainly agree that there needs to be boundaries in place to stop the community from being flooded with such illegal content. But I think there is a difference between wanting to remove dangerous content, and wanting to get rid of content you do not like. Content can be problematic to you, but that does not make it dangerous, illegal, or bad. For some readers, the content they create is their way of dealing with trauma. Maybe this is not healthy for them. But that is their decision to make, not yours.
I orphaned the story because I did not want to handle the potential backlash. To put it simply, I do not handle negative criticism well. Not because I am stuck-up and think I am perfect, but because I am a very anxious person. Just reading angry comments makes me feel very uncomfortable, often nauseous. I know that House of Cards has received overwhelmingly positive feedback from readers, and for that I am thankful. But I had to distance myself for the sake of my own mental health. Since orphaning it, it exploded in popularity. I am thankful that I orphaned it because that amount of attention would frighten me a lot, haha~
What was your reaction to the fanfiction trailer by Sappiamur?
How did you come to the decision to reveal your real name in the end note of House of Cards?
How did you feel when you finished House of Cards?
How did you come to the decision to orphan House of Cards?
Did you ever anticipate the overwhelming fan reaction to House of Cards?
How do you feel knowing that House of Cards is one of the most read fanfictions on Ao3?
What do you want House of Cards to be remembered for?
What do you hope people take away from House of Cards?
Why do you think House of Cards became so popular?
I had to go back and watch it. It's been some time since I last have, and I'm still as amazed by it now as I was back then. The trailer is insane. I cannot imagine how much work went into making it. It's so good and it fits the vibes of the story to perfection. I think the first time I watched it, I was in shock. I must have repeated it at least 10 times in a row, just to make sure it was real and I wasn't imagining it. Then I think I screamed about it on my social media accounts, haha~ If you reading this have not watched the trailer, consider doing so. I promise you won't be disappointed.
Back when I first started posting fanfics, I used to get a lot of asks wanting to know my name, my pronouns, stuff like that. I thought by adding my name at the end of the stories, it would help cut down on these requests. But I also did so because I used to get a lot of asks referring to me as 'author-nim' and I didn't like being addressed by this honorific. I'm not Korean so I have no right to receive that honorific. So, I included my real name so readers could address me with it when sending me asks and interacting with me. I don't add my name at the end of my stories now, but my name is in my Twitter bio for those that want to know.
When I finished it, I felt relieved! I was so calm in the moment! Looking back on it, I can't remember much. But I do remember finishing House of Cards without any issues. The final chapters flowed smoothly, it all clicked into place, and I had a great time writing them.
I came to the decision to orphan the story after several nights of contemplation. I was considering deleting the story, along with a few others, but my partner and some friends told me I shouldn't do so. They suggested orphaning it instead. So, I did so. I didn't want to delete it in case readers that had started it had not gotten to finish it yet. I would've felt very mean robbing them of the opportunity to finish the story like that. I don't regret orphaning it instead of deleting it. I didn't want to destroy the story, I just needed some distance between me and the story.
I didn't anticipate it, and I still don't understand it! I'm shocked that House of Cards got the reaction that it received. Do I think it's a good story? Yes, I think that I worked hard to create a story that is enjoyable to read. But did I ever think it would get the reaction it did? Not in a million years! I thought that it would be one of my more popular stories because a) the pairings and b) the content. Gang stories usually tend to get a lot of attention because it's a popular genre in fanfiction. I just didn't expect it to reach such a vast amount of hits, kudos and comments.
I'm in shock that it is one of the most read stories on AO3. I don't think I will ever be able to create another story that will garner that kind of attention and feedback. It's a once in a lifetime thing, so I'm immensely proud of myself for achieving such a feat. But really, it's all because of the readers that it achieved such a goal. I'm so thankful for every single one of them.
I just want it to be remembered for being enjoyable, I think. I don't have any grand and lofty ambitions for the story. I think so long as the readers enjoyed it, that is all that matters.
I'm not sure what I would like readers to take away from House of Cards. I guess I want them to reflect on the idea of morality and that not everything is black-and-white. Good people can do bad things, and bad things can happen to good people. It's hard to answer this question because House of Cards isn't a story that I consider to have deep messages in it? There are no messages about acceptance and love and healthy relationships and such, like some of my other stories.
Honestly? I don't know what made it get so popular. I assume it's because of the pairings or the setting of the story. I know that a lot of readers say they love the story because of how well it's written, but I can't comment on that as the creator, haha~ I can't say my story is well-written as I'm not consuming it from an outside perspective. What I can say is that I do think I created a story that has a lot of twists and turns and betrayals, which I think adds to the enjoyment factor.
How are you now in 2020? Are you writing professionally in real life at all? 
How do you feel BTS fanfiction has changed over time? Since you’ve been writing for it for so long. 
Do you have any messages for people who may read this interview in the future?
I'm not writing professionally. I have self-published two books via Amazon and Lulu. One was a basic re-branding of my story babes in the woods. The other was a total rewrite of Brotherhood, which I called 'Brothers,' featuring a whole new setting and roster of characters. I published them as readers showed an interest in reading original stories. I have been considering rewriting House of Cards as an original work in the future, but I can't say for certain that I will do so.
Since I started writing, I think there's been a lot of changes in the fandom—not only in fanfiction but in general. There's been popular trends that have come and gone (I was around for the explosion of social media and text-based AUs, which I personally am not a fan of) but there's also been a lot of push for more inclusive content. I'm really happy by the amount of inclusive content that I see these days. Despite some pushback from non-queer fans that sometimes have an issue with queer subject matter (for example, trans characters) I think it's wonderful that artists of all colours, genders and sexualities are now proudly creating content they want to see, and not simply just what is 'in demand' from the fandom.
The message that I would like to share with readers of this interview is: stay healthy, stay happy, and most importantly, stay you. I also want to take this moment to tell them this - if you are considering becoming a creator, but you are worried about reception to your work, or that it might not be good enough, stop right now! Stop doubting yourself and just give it a shot! I was once like you, scared that my weird and niche interests and writing would be ignored or even mocked by the fandom because no one would like it. Had I not decided to take the plunge, my life would be so drastically different. I've made so many friends, fallen in love, and completely changed my life by creating fan content. It can be scary, but once you take the leap, you will find your feet coming down on solid earth without any danger.
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bisexualhobi · 3 years ago
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I just scrolled through a lot of the asks you got on your blog and it was nice to see people talk a bit more openly on here. I feel like it’s rare to find armys who are willing to criticise bts when something goes wrong. And I would like to share something too if you don’t mind. It’s kind of a basic opinion and you’ve probably heard it before but I really miss the old bts. I mean they’re doing great for themselves now and I don’t wish anything bad for them. But GOD do I miss the old, playful, fun bts. I have just felt so disconnected as an army I don’t even know why I’m still here. Maybe it’s cuz I’m so emotionally attached that just thinking of letting go of bts makes me lose a part of my identity. I found bts in 2015 and I was 13 then so they’ve been a really big part of my life. Some people on Twitter call their old music cringy but it seriously got me through a lot. It’s the music I have the best memories with. It used to be fun before when I went on vlive and they would have these random livestreams and do random shit. It was probably still monitored by their managers back then but nowadays everything seems so scripted. I can’t get myself to watch run bts anymore each episode just seems like a long running advert for some brand sponsoring them. And the way they extend each episode into different parts??? It’s so unnecessary sometimes. Around a year ago I started rewatching older episodes but now I can’t even bring myself to watch those cuz it makes me so sad cuz I miss that era so much. I might sound a bit selfish but I can’t help how I feel. I sometimes remember the old bangtan bombs where they dance to any kpop song they like and they were just having fun you know. And I know it’s not possible for them to do these things today cuz there are some delulu fans out there. But I remember the old bangtan gayo episodes actually introduced me to a lot of other good kpop songs. The episodes were short but they made me laugh and made me happy- it was quality over quantity. Or the livestreams where they popped up for like 2 minutes said some random stuff and left that was so funny. And their music...I haven’t really felt anything from their music since map of the soul era. There’s a few songs here and there that are good but that’s about it. Their soundcloud releases is the only thing that made me stay. But I feel so lost sometimes. I could write a whole essay but I think I’ll end it here - sorry for the rant!
hey, thanks for sharing your thoughts. i'm sorry you've been feeling this way, as someone who only discovered them in late 2020 i can't imagine what it must be like to have been here since the early days.....
i think a popular counterargument to "i miss the old bts" is "their old albums are right there. you can listen to them whenever" which. is true but it also purposefully ignores or twists the issue behind this sentiment. people miss the old bts because the old bts was more approachable. idc how many times they go on weverse or twt and tell us how much they love us - i'm not saying they stopped caring about us or are faking it. i mean that they are no longer an approachable identity to relate to because there's very little to relate to when you're the biggest artist in the planet.... fame does come at a cost
it's not about wanting dark & wild or hyyh music back, it's about the intent with which they put those records out and the soul these songs have. not even the "self-produced" BE can compare in any level to the sheer creative hunger and like. genuinely good production of the music that came with those past records. hopefully the next comeback that isn't catering to the american market will be better, because mots7 was genuinely REALLY good.
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princenochu · 4 years ago
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Timeline of every BTS comeback trailers...
Im doing this because I realized that each member have already had their solo comeback trailers for each era except one member, which is Jeon Jungkook. As a Jungkooker, especially when we are on the Comeback era again for BE, there is a possibility that Jungkook would be the next member for a solo comeback trailer.
Here are the list of all the comeback trailers:
2014, Namjoon did the solo comeback trailer for both the Skool Luv Affair and Dark & Wild era.
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2015- early 2016, Suga was in charge of th comeback trailer for HYYH part 1 and HYYH part 2.
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Late 2016, Wings Era, J-hope was now the one to do a comeback trailer for Boy Meets Evil.
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2017, Love Yourself Era started, Jimin was now in charge of the comeback trailer for Serendipity and the Love Yourself:Her album.
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Early 2018, Love Yourself: Tear, Taehyung's turn for a comeback trailer for Singularity
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Late 2018, Love Yourself: Answer, Jin did the comeback trailer for the album with Epiphany.
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2019, LY era ended, Map Of the Soul era started. Namjoon again did the comeback trailer for Persona
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2020, Mots:7, Suga did the comeback trailer again for Shadow.
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I know if you're wondering, Euphoria, which is Jungkook's solo did have a mv but it's not necessarily a "solo" mv since all the members were there and the title for the vid also didn't mention that it was a comeback trailer since during that time it was V's Singularity as the LY: Tear era's comeback trailer.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ARMY?? I DID THIS BECAUSE WE ARE ON THE COMEBACK SEASON AND JUNGKOOK SAID IT HIMSELF THAT HE NEVER FILMED A MV/COMEBACK TRAILER ALONE BEFORE. EVEN IF THIS WHOLE THING IM DOING MIGHT NOT MEAN THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN THIS COMEBACK BUT IM STILL HOPING.
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becomewings · 4 years ago
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Sea
BTS Universe Elemental Series : Water
“There is something about the sea that makes me well up with emotions. ...
The next minute, we were all looking out onto the sea and shouting our dreams. … Each of us cried out a story that would never reach any destination. … All of my senses came alive. The others' voices became entangled and formed an intricate web with the somewhat fishy but refreshing scent of the sea and the strong breeze winding round my fingers. Before I knew it, I was screaming out onto the sea. Amidst the thundering drilling sound, I couldn't hear what my dream was.”
— JungKook, 12 June Year 19. The Notes 1.
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“Beyond them was the sea, and above the sea was the sun. The entire scene looked like a still frame. …
We’d all met again, sprung JiMin from the hospital, and returned to this same beach. It was all unplanned. ...
‘It was June 12.’ I remembered it exactly because the photo we had taken on this beach was marked with the date. I sometimes took it out and stared at it. I didn’t tell anyone, but I felt on that long-ago day that I had finally found a real family. Real brothers.”
— JungKook, 22 May Year 22. The Notes 1.
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“After returning from the sea, we went back to our solitary lives.”
— SeokJin, 13 June Year 22. The Notes 1.
〰〰〰꩜〰〰〰
I’ve been feeling pretty discouraged lately, especially after witnessing in real-time how much greater the reception is for new/topical content compared to older/more comprehensive content like this blog (this was within my own content on different blogs, to be clear!). It feels like an uphill battle sometimes, so I am deeply appreciative of all of you who have shared my works, and especially to those of you who also sent in supportive messages recently. I’m not giving up yet. Thank you for joining me on this journey. ♡
This is the first entry in a multi-part Elemental series, which will in turn be broken down into several subseries (Water, Fire, etc.). I know my most recent post featured a lot of sea imagery and I do usually try to space out similar themes, but this felt like a good place to start!
A little behind-the-scenes peek at my process (and inevitable misadventures), if you’re curious... I’ve been steadily compiling screenshots from every BTS Universe MV to help myself organize and plan themes, but I still have a few to go. I knew there was a shot, somewhere, with a rippling effect over the boys by the car at the sea. However, I didn’t have a screenshot of it in any of my folders, and after skimming the list of videos I was convinced that I must have missed it from one I’d already completed. As I skimmed through older MVs and it failed to turn up, I began to wonder if I’d made it up. While seriously contemplating that I’d lost my mind, I happened to check Epiphany, one of the MVs I have not captured yet, and... lo and behold, there it was at the end. Serves me right for procrastinating on the capturing. :’) I decided to splice that clip together with the original appearance of that scene/footage from the Prologue because I was already making tough choices while paring down to 10 images. It’s a little grainy, but I spent a ridiculous amount of time working on the first spliced version, scrapping it because I wasn’t happy with the alignment, redoing it from scratch with better scaling between the two, and creating the crossfade. All for just 1/10th of this set!
As I’m focusing more on gifs now and have learned very basic coloring with some practice sets on my side blog, I do want to state that I am (currently) making the decision not to color these BTS Universe sets, aside from small level edits and contrast boosting so the gifs turn out a little cleaner. I recognize that this is not the most aesthetically pleasing choice and that most creators harmonize color palettes when compiling sets from multiple videos. It is my personal intention on this blog, however, to represent the selections as close to their original versions as possible. This better demonstrates how the aesthetics and artistic decisions of the MVs themselves have developed over the lifetime of BTS Universe. Also, despite the lack of color alterations on my part, I do try my best to achieve a composition that is both narratively and visually cohesive, striking a balance between story and art. (I don’t know if anyone has caught onto me yet, but I quite enjoy “reflections” in my image layouts.) And of course, this doesn’t take into consideration all the time I spend gathering the Notes quotes and planning out whether they are more appropriate as captions or in the body text.
Anyway, if you think that I’m making a terrible decision, please feel free to yell at me in my ask box. Or if you have something nice to say, you can yell that in there too. ♡
I Need U (Original Ver.) [1] HYYH On Stage: Prologue [2-5] Epiphany Comeback Trailer [3] Run [6] Love Yourself Highlight Reel '起承轉結' [7] Euphoria : Theme of Love Yourself 起 Wonder [8-10]
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Ultimate Jikook Timeline PT 32
HYYH1 Era Pt 1 
1. April 5, 2015: Jimin Video Log
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Jimin is wearing Jungkook’s jacket.
2. April 6, 2015:
HYYH Jacket Shooting Making Film
3:11 Jimin is wearing JK’s hoodie
6:00 sitting close for the photoshoot
13:19 jikook photoshoot, Jimin asks if JK liked shooting with him, JK seems a bit shy and says “I’m cold”
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3. April 7, 2015:
Recording I NEED U chorus
At the end, Jikook seem to be making eye contact and smiling?
4. April 11, 2015:
Bangtan Bomb
At the end, Jimin says “I don’t know, I’ve never been in love alone before.”
5. April 15, 2015:
Star Attack Interview
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JM squeezes JK’s butt repeatedly when he does pushups.
JM saying if he were born a girl, he’d want to try the coffee in women’s bathhouses (so innocent!!)
April 18, 2015: Comeback Trailer Released!!
6. April 19, 2015: 
Concept Photos #1 Released
Jimin Twitter Post
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Caption: Oh boy, but Jungkook and I are the best?#Jimin #Chimchim #jm #Jungkook [Jimin]
7. April 22, 2015: 
a) Jimin Twitter Post
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Caption: Looks like our Kookie is keeping his promise to ARMYs Pretty thing _ChimChim [Jimin]
b) Bangtan Bomb
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JM gives advice while sitting in JK’s lap and stroking his hair.
c) Bangtan Quiz Show
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JK keeps bumping into JM/shoving him at the beginning; during game they are sitting across from each other and seem to be staring at each other a lot/making eye contact, especially JK.
8. April 24, 2015:
Bighit Twitter Post 
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9. April 25, 2015: 
Jimin Twitter Video
Translation: Yes, gongsoo_kookie(?)-nim sent this one. ‘Every day is the happiest because my newborn son is growing up healthily. I will probably never get to relive these moments.’ I really hope your son doesn’t grow up to be like Jungkook-ie, but rather be cool like me.
10. April 29, 2015:
The Most Beautiful Moment In Life Part 1 Mini-album Release
a) Naver Comeback Live
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I couldn’t find English subs that weren’t taken down, so I’m not sure what’s being said, however JK seems to be looking fondly at JM throughout the video.
Also shows behind the scenes of photoshoot, where jimin is wearing JK’s jacket when its cold out
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b) TENASIA Magazine Interview
Q: Who is rising up the visual rankings for this promotion? 
JM: The maknae Jungkook. No matter how you look at it, he’s handsome!
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JM: I want to go on vacation. I have this fantasy about vacations and I want to go on one, whether it’s by myself or with others.
[When asked about roommates/housing]
JM (roommates with J-Hope and V): He [Jungkook] keeps coming to our room lately. I feel like we share a room as four people.
RM (roommates with JK): I feel like I’m using a room by myself. It’s nice…
V: We have to sleep but he keeps coming into our room asking us to play games with him.
11. April 30, 2015: 
a) Jimin Twitter Post
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Caption: Did you watch the first broadcast well? Please watch over our promotions well in the future too. #BTS #화양연화 #INEEDU #WithOurKook  [Jimin]
b) JK Twitter Post
Cute twitter video.
First broadcast! Really.. thank you ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ We’ll work hard tomorrow too, fighting! ARMY fighting! Bangtan fighting! JK 
c) BTS @ THE STAR Profiles
[View full profiles in link above] JK: “I only do what I want to do and I don’t care what others think of me.” Ideal type: Someone who is good at singing, likes me, has nice skin, and is smart. 
JM: Ideal type: I don’t have an ideal type... I think there is a certain face that I like, but I still don’t know. A girl with a nice personality is #1!
d) The Show Interview
1:30 Jimin mentions wanting to lose weight and JK looks at him kinda funny. Hilarious interview.
Information compiled by Shan and @lagalaxiedemochi
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suga-ssi · 4 years ago
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200710 TWT: @FlowerSmeraldo 
trans: [Flower Smeraldo] First Blog Post
https://blog.naver.com/testesso/222027010829
#Smeraldo #Florist#PlayingCard
** The blog entry contained the same stuff... but the date of shop opening changed, from mid-September (LY comeback) to late August **
Note: The smeraldo blog refreshed. If you followed past theories during the post wings/pre-LY era (2017), you’ll know that the blog contained several posts. If you follow BU (BTS Universe/ HYYH storyline) you will know that Jin travels through time. My guess is... he travelled and changed shit up again. lmao If you are curious... you can check my translations and explanations
HERE:  
Smeraldo Blog Trans + Some Background:
part 1 - Blog entries 1 - 3
part 2 - Blog entries 4 - 6
part 3 - Blog entry 7 
part 4 - FB account
part 5 - Blog entry 8 
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BTS trip through time. May 2015.
This month the HYYH promotions continued
This month BTS had their first ever win at a music show with I Need U
Check out the Music show pages for more
This month they also filmed Summer package 2015
150722 BTS 2015 summer package dvd (pt 1) (pt 2)  (Filmed 10-15th May 2015) (archive)
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Have a look at the 2015 landing page for more
There were a lot of fansign events
This month we also has the Festa timeline
150530 [#2015BTSFESTA] Festa schedule.
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150531 BTS [A.R.M.Y #2] Happy Birthday to you~ (June) 
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This month was such a huge turning point for them. I loved revisiting the HYYH comeback with all of the fansigns and music show performances.
Let me know what was your favourite part of this month?
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jjkfire · 4 years ago
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Omg yes I 100% agree with your ramble!! I’ve been a fan since Dope and as much as I love the boys and the story line I feel like BH is just milking everything and dragging things out for unnecessary reasons. I loved the plot they had during HYYH but at this point I’m kind of like... it’s been nearly 5 years and we’re still on the same thing? I know it’s defo a stretch but I’ve been wondering (1)
recently that all these cash grabs by bighit could also be a part of why bts nearly disbanded. The constant tiring and in your face schedules must’ve tired them beyond belief. I just hope cause of everything they can relax a little more. (2)
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what irks me is that the last thing we saw about hyyh & the story line was the bits & pieces they gave us in fake love. there’s been 5 MVs since then, idol, boy with luv, on, black swan & dynamite, not including all the ‘single’ MVs aka intros, outros, interludes, and also make it right and eternal and all things that i am missing off the top of my head haha. 
so it has been 2 years since we got any hyyh CRUMB that was substantial to me... they tweeted some ‘notes’ from hyyh but honestly can’t remember when that was. i don’t want to doubt lumpens and everyone that works with the hyyh content but it could be possible like they don’t know how to finish it? or they have really been waiting to conclude the whole thing in the bts universe game and if so, i will be pretty sad. i mean hyyh was such a big part of bts and is what drew in so many fans and if i get a conclusion in the form of a game, and not a video series or something....... i will be v sad (personal opinion so not everyone might agree). 
artists definitely grow and can change directions so it’s possible they’re just not into the whole hyyh thing anymore but i miss that. i miss that down to earth, underdog, us vs the world feeling. but im so happy for them, for all they have achieved at bullet speed over the recent years. we can only speculate why they wanted to disband at that time. perhaps they were overworked, stressed or just feeling the pressure that comes with astronomical fame. between all the music videos, comeback appearances, year-end shows, and being on tour almost half of the year every year, making a ‘movie’ at least once a year, concert dvds, bon voyage and etc., run & gayo episodes, summer package, winter package, muster, it’s not hard to see why. i can only hope that everything they write and produce is 100% things they want to make, not to pander to anyone or to trends. and that they’re happy!!!
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BU - Bangtan Universe
💜 Che cos’è il Bangtan Universe o BU?
Il Bangtan Universe (o BU) è il logo ufficiale del franchising apertosi più o meno nell’estate del 2017 e il marchio sotto cui si sviluppa l’universo narrativo ideato e creato dalla Big Hit. L’universo in questione si ispira ai membri dei BTS (i suoi personaggi ne prendono infatti i loro nomi di nascita) e la sua storia è arrivata a noi nel corso degli anni attraverso contenuti di natura diversa come immagini (i poster di Love Yourself), cortometraggi (il prologo di 화양연화, gli short film di Wings, gli Highlight reel, i VCR dei concerti), testi in forma di diario (화양연화 The Notes) e un webtoon (화양연화 pt.0 - Save Me).
💜 In quale modo il Bangtan Universe si collega agli album dei BTS?
Sono tre le ere principali che si possono ricollegare al BU:
화양연화 (The Most Beautiful Moment In Life)
Wings
Love Yourself
화양연화 - The Most Beautiful Moment In Life
La storia ci è stata presentata per la prima volta nel 2015 attraverso il video musicale di “I Need U”, il quale ha dato inizio alla trilogia di 화양연화 (“The Most Beautiful Moment in Life”). Prima che ne arrivasse la seconda parte con “Run”, è stato rilasciato sul canale ufficiale della bighit “화양연화 on stage: prologue”, video in cui vengono mostrati i ragazzi mentre si divertono insieme in una località marina che vedremo ritornare spesso nominata in seguito nei Notes.
La storia si arricchisce di dettagli anche nei video musicali delle title “I Need You” e “Run” in versione giapponese, le quali seguono lo stesso concept narrativo delle loro gemelle coreane.
L'era sembra concludersi con il video musicale di “Young Forever” che tutto è tranne che una conclusione: il primo frame del video recita infatti la dicitura: HYYH 2015.04.29 ~ Forever (“HYYH 2015.04.29 ~ Per sempre”).
Wings
L'era Wings si apre con una serie di sette cortometraggi: ognuno di questi si focalizza su un personaggio della storia e ognuno di loro si apre con una citazione presa dal libro “Demian” di Hermann Hesse. Si scoprirà più tardi che il titolo di ognuno di questi video corrisponderà ai rispettivi solo dei membri nell'album, rilasciati nello stesso ordine in cui compaiono nella tracklist del disco: Begin, Lie, Stigma, First Love, Reflection, Mama, Awake.
L'atmosfera cupa e misteriosa dei sette short film viene mantenuta anche nell'MV di “Blood, Sweat & Tears”, la title di questo full album. Il tema già suggerito dai numerosi indizi presenti nell'era precedente si ripresenta anche in questo nuovo video: i ragazzi sembrano essere bloccati in dimensioni spazio-temporali diverse e il personaggio di Jin sembra essere l'unico in grado di poter mutare la situazione e cambiare il destino dei suoi compagni. La versione giapponese di “Blood, Sweat & Tears” non fa che dare una resa alternativa della stessa storia già illustrata nei precedenti video, il che rafforza le numerosissime teorie dei fan.
A concludere questo capitolo della discografia dei Bangtan viene pubblicato il “Wings Concept Book”, un libro esplicativo di ogni dettaglio riguardante il concept di questo secondo full album e del suo profondo collegamento con l'opera sopracitata di Hermann Hesse.
Love Yourself
La serie di “Love Yourself” viene rivelata al pubblico per la prima volta attraverso sette poster raffiguranti i personaggi della storia ormai iniziata nel 2015. Nelle locandine i ragazzi vengono immortalati nello stesso modo in cui si presentano nei “LOVE YOURSELF Highlight Reel '起承轉結”, 4 video rilasciati poco dopo l'anteprima dei poster stessi.
Il titolo di questi nuovi cortometraggi rappresenta le 4 fasi fondamentali di una storia:
起: “inizio” o “introduzione”
承: “sviluppo”
轉: “svolta”
結: “conclusione”
Ad ognuno di questi passaggi verrà fatto corrispondere in quest'ordine uno dei contenuti rilasciati sotto il nome di questa serie: “Love Yourself 起: Wonder”, “Love Yourself 承: Her”, “Love Yourself 轉: Tear” e “Love Yourself 結: Answer”.
Il primo ad essere rilasciato è il mini album “Love Yourself 承: Her”, il quale contribuisce alla storia solamente tramite i Notes che si possono trovare al suo interno. Il secondo contenuto digitale pubblicato si rivela essere  “Love Yourself 起: Wonder”, un cortometraggio che anticipa il solo “Euphoria” di Jungkook (che ritroveremo poi in  “Love Yourself 結: Answer”) e che sviluppa ulteriormente le già accennate storyline dei personaggi del BU. Successivamente il gruppo torna a fare comeback con “Love Yourself 轉: Tear”, la cui title “Fake Love” e i cui Notes contenuti all'interno dell'album mostrano nuovi complicati risvolti della trama.  La serie si conclude infine con l'ultimo suo capitolo, “Love Yourself 結: Answer” e i suoi corrispettivi e immancabili Notes.
💜 In quale modo il blog Flower Smeraldo e l’account twitter @Smeraldo_Books si inseriscono nella storia?
Il blog Flower Smeraldo nasce il 9 agosto 2017 e narra la storia fittizia di Testesso, il proprietario di un negozio fiori. Il fiorista parla principalmente di un tipo specifico di fiore, lo Smeraldo, una pianta molto rara e delicata rimasta per molto tempo solo leggenda. Il sito è stato utilizzato principalmente per spiegare l’origine dei fiori che si vedono stringere in mano a Jin negli Highlight Reel e che vengono citati anche nei Notes. Qui potete leggere nel dettaglio la storia riguardante il blog: [post]
L’account Twitter @Smeraldo_Books nasce invece il 7 gennaio 2019, giorno in cui viene pubblicato il primo estratto dei Notes. La dicitura del primo tweet riporta le cifre 1/15, anticipando il fatto che saranno 15 in tutto le citazioni pubblicate.
Fino ad ora i frammenti della storia che sono stati o pubblicati nuovamente o rilasciati per la prima volta sono:
Seokjin, 2 maggio ANNO 22 [ita]
Yoongi, 7 aprile ANNO 22 [ita]
Namjoon, 11 aprile ANNO 22 [ita]
Jungkook, 11 aprile ANNO 22 [ita]
Hoseok, 23 luglio ANNO 10 [ita]
Jimin, 28 settembre ANNO 20 [ita]
Yoongi, 2 maggio ANNO 22 [ita]
Hoseok, 10 maggio ANNO 22 [ita]
Taehyung, 20 maggio ANNO 22 [ita]
Jimin, 15 maggio ANNO 22 [ita]
Jungkook, 22 maggio ANNO 22 [ita]
Taehyung, 22 maggio ANNO 22 [ita]
Namjoon, 13 luglio ANNO 22 [ita]
Seokjin, 30 agosto ANNO 22 [ita]
Jungkook, 22 maggio ANNO 22 [ita]
Lo scopo di questo account non è stato ancora precisato perfettamente (il nome ‘books’ potrebbe sottintendere una serie di contenuti ulteriori legati a questo universo) ma il suo coinvolgimento nel BU è indubbio. È stato attraverso @Smeraldo_Books che il webtoon “화양연화 pt.0 - Save Me” è stato pubblicizzato e rilasciato al pubblico. Il fumetto sarà infatti la chiave principale per scoprire nuovi dettagli e per avere le risposte che tutti attendevamo dopo la lettura dei Notes.
💜  Quali sono i contenuti ufficialmente registrati sotto il marchio BU?
Attualmente i contenuti ufficiali che presentano la dicitura “BU content certified by Big Hit Entertainment” (“Contenuto BU certificato dalla Big Hit Entertainment”) o il marchio “BU” sono i seguenti:
2015
화양연화 pt. 1 - I Need U 화양연화 on stage : prologue 화양연화 pt.2 - Run I Need U Jap Vers
2016
Run Jap Vers 화양연화 Young Forever - Young Forever  Short film: Begin, Lie, Stigma, First Love, Reflection, MAMA, Awake Wings - Blood, Sweat & Tears Wings Concept Book
2017
Blood, Sweat & Tears Jap Vers Poster Love Yourself  [jungkook; yoongi; jimin; namjoon; taehyung; hoseok; seokjin 1; seokjin 2; namjoon&taehyung; yoongi&jungkook; jimin&hoseok] BTS (방탄소년단) LOVE YOURSELF Highlight Reel '起承轉結'  Love Yourself: Her - 화양연화 The Notes
2018
BTS (방탄소년단) 'Euphoria : Theme of LOVE YOURSELF 起 Wonder' Love Yourself: Tear - Fake Love Teaser 1, Fake Love, Fake Love Extended Vers, 화양연화 The Notes Love Yourself: Answer - Epiphany, 화양연화 The Notes
2019
Smeraldo Books (account Twitter) 화양연화 pt.0 - Save Me (webtoon) 花樣年華 THE NOTES 1 (libro) Map Of The Soul : Persona - 화양연화 The Notes
2020
Map Of The Soul : 7 - 화양연화 The Notes
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Tutti i video qui sopra citati si possono trovare in SUB ITA qui: [playlist] Le traduzioni in ITA raccolte in ordine cronologico di tutti i 화양연화 The Notes possono essere trovate qui: [pdf]
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The colors in BTS’ works - a noob study
I tried to see if there was anything worth analyzing about the colors and here’s what I came up with. As the title implies, I have no knowledge in color theory nor any observation skill so take it with a grain of salt and don’t hesitate to correct me if you see something wrong^^
When I talk about the main color of a video, I don’t mean it’s the only color used, I just mean that it’s the color that appears the most. It’s obviously completely subjective. Same goes with the identification of the colors: whether it’s a greyish blue or a bluish grey is up to everyone. Again if you disagree, don’t hesitate to tell me!
I’ll mainly focus on the MVs Lumpens worked on since they did the majority of the videos, including the BU ones. GDW did almost all the other MVs, they are usually a bit darker and more action-focused, think “Dope,” “Not Today,” or “Mic Drop”.
I also won’t talk about the Japanese MVs but usually, they have the same color pattern as the Korean version.
There’ll be five parts:
The creation of the world
The red string of fate
The Butterfly dream
The temptation of the Green Fairy
Finding New Neverland, namely accepting the world
The creation of the world
If there’s one dominant color in 2 Cool 4 Skool, it’s black. Be it the boys’ outfits, the background or the lighting, everything is mainly black. And it’s the case in the MVs and the photo concept. They just wear some gold accessories.
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In O!RUL8,2? it’s the white that dominates. Interestingly, the two comeback trailers announcing this album start with black as the main color but end with white, like to make the transition between the two albums.
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We can consider the boys are associated with the black color (2 Cool 4 Skool and their black uniform in O!RUL8,2?) while the outside world is white. They rebel against this world in “N.O” and win.
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However, against all odds, they don’t turn the world in black, they themselves turn in white but with hip-hop outfits and gold accessories, like a white version of their 2 Cool 4 Skool selves. Where the black uniform seems to represent the world trying to force its ideal on the boys, to mold them to its convenience, the white hip-hop outfit could be the boys accepting the outside world without losing their soul, the white cover them like a second skin without hurting their core, namely hip-hop.
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Now that black and white are at peace, they can coexist in Skool Luv Affair and Dark & Wild. Other colors will also start appearing, but everything remains quite monochromatic. The only notable color is the light/greyish-yellow, coming mostly from the lighting. Skool Luv Affair also has hints of green in reference to the chalkboard.
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While we’re here, doesn’t “Danger” feels like the night version of “Just One Day”? In both, the boy is asking for the girl’s company but one is all black and the other is all white.
In parallel to those albums, we got two concerts: The Red Bullet and BTS Begins. The VCRs follow the aesthetic of an almost monochromatic world with low luminosity and a lot of black. The only exception is the outside scenes in BTS Begins when they all go to school and that have slightly more vivid colors - possibly because it is the outside world that they haven’t explored yet (but they will during 화양연화).
The concept photos also follow this idea. First black, then white, then the two together, then colors. From 2 Cool 4 Skool to 화양연화 Pt.2 we have:
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The world stopped being a blinding white for the boy in black who’s now standing in a yellow desert.
The red string of fate
There’s one color I haven’t mentioned until now but that still appeared in a significant way: red.
Since this part is a bit long, I’ll rather redirect you toward A study in red, an old post I rewrote for the occasion.
To make it short, the theme the boys question during an era (happiness, love temptation...) has often a red color.
The boys alone in the desert finds a red string. He starts to follow it, hoping it will lead him to the sea.
The butterfly dream
They finished school and are ready to discover the other colors existing in the world. This way Hwa Yang Yeon Hwa doesn’t have a dominant hue but rather a more or less bright color palette.
What retained my attention was the green and the blue.
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Note that I’m probably influenced by the Peter Pan references making me associate green with Peter himself and Neverland and “Sea” where the lyrics explain that the boys are searching for a sea in the desert.
So let’s rather just say the boys explore the outside world and so there are many colors.
One exception to this explosion of colors is “Save Me” with its grey tone. However, in the Concept Book, there’s a note saying “Save Me 화양연화 Pt.0.” And indeed the videos before 화양연화 had also a grey tone so it would actually connect well.
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As You Never Walk Alone is the events between 화양연화 and WINGS, I’ll put it here. We still have a palette of colors, maybe slightly paler.
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But the MVs have a dominant tone this time: green for “Spring Day,” pink for “Not Today.” I won’t detail “Not Today,” but you can consider its color like the pink of AWAKE or the purple of “Boy Meets Evil”
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Interestingly, this green color is associated with the motel Omelas. And I just said we had a green Neverland in 화양연화. We could thus consider that the Omelas the boys are about to leave is the Neverland from 화양연화, the paradise where they thought they could stay young forever.
Where it gets beautiful is that the scenes outside have two main colors, yellow and blue, which mixed make green and that can also be connected with the yellow of the desert and the blue of the sea.
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As they have blue and yellow maybe they can try to mix them to find back the happiness from Omelas/Neverland? Sidenote: in the NOW 3 in Chicago Dreaming Days, there’s a part called New Neverland and shot in a park with lots of green and blue. It tends to validate the idea above.
The boy found a green oasis on his path, but it’s not the blue sea he’s searching for.
The temptation of the Green Fairy
So actually the outside world isn’t all that great. Black makes its comeback but it doesn’t represent the boys anymore, it could represent the hostile world, the bad sides of life.
The Short Films are a good example. Four are mainly black: BEGIN, STIGMA, FIRST LOVE, and REFLECTION. LIE and MAMA are white with a hint of blue (sidenote: J-Hope and Jimin are a 화양연화 pair). AWAKE is blue. If we consider each short film as a step in the Demian progression, we can find an explanation:
the four black ones (Suga, RM, V, Jungkook) are still wandering between youth and adulthood, lost
the blue one (Jin) has reached adulthood, namely the blue sea. Note that considering the light blue of the room and the possibility Jin is the bird from Demian, we could also see it as a blue sky, the one you fly through to reach Abraxas.
J-Hope has almost reached the AWAKE stage so he has a white background with a blue pajama. Jimin lies and pretends he’s also near the final stage when actually he’s not.
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We have a possible epilogue to J-Hope’s progression in “Boy Meets Evil.”
“Boy Meets Evil” is neither red (temptation) nor blue (AWAKE stage), it’s purple, right between the two. In the same idea, the hallway Jin crosses in AWAKE is pale pink so it seems that before reaching the final stage, you have to go through this pink/purple/red path.
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“Blood, Sweat & Tears” (and the concert trailer for The Wings Tour actually) seems to be the same thing, but for the remaining boys. The temptation appears in hues of red and purple. And we even have a blue room, like in AWAKE.
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But now let’s talk about the elephant in the room.
There’s green in “Blood, Sweat & Tears”. Like a ton of green. So much green, Jungkook actually mentioned it in the Episode.
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You may remember I named this part “The temptation of the Green Fairy”. Green Fairy is one of the names used to designate Absinthe, the green liquid RM drinks in the MV. Basically, it’s associated with decadence, death, and poets.
So it seems this time the green color isn’t related to Neverland/Omelas/Youth but to the theme of the album, namely temptation. But why the change then? Usually, they have the red color for the theme of the album.
It’s just my guess but since another theme of WINGS is the end of youth, it could be that the boys are too old for Neverland and so it becomes toxic for them: they have to let go of their childhood (and find the New Neverland/Blue Sea).
Red is the general idea of temptation - think about the red apple - while green would be the temptation to live in the past - funny for a time travel story, isn’t it?
The boy misses the green oasis, he wants to step back rather than searching for the sea.
Finding New Neverland, namely accepting the world
And finally, we reach Love Yourself era. While it’s pretty clear all the colors are brighter than in any other era, it’s hard to find dominant ones. Be it the Highlight Reels or Euphoria, we have a color palette like during HYYH, probably meaning the boys are exploring the outside world.
But it seems yellow and blue are slightly more present in the MVs for the main tracks. You can also think about the blue mold and the yellow blanket in “Serendipity”.
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They accept to renounce to the green and to rather live in a world with yellow and blue, namely the desert and the sea. Like they accept to love themselves no matter how imperfect they are, they accept the world.
The last hints of green are in “Serendipity” and “Epiphany”. In the first one, it’s probably a remaining illusion. Tear proved Her is a lie:
the black “Singularity” invalidated the green “Serendipity”. They’re still trying to escape the world of temptations like in WINGS
“FAKE LOVE” going from the blue sea to the yellow desert invalidated the illusion from “DNA” where blue and yellow existed together
The green in “Epiphany” is most likely Jin's last attempt to change the past: the current time is grey, it turns green when Jin travels back in time and goes back to grey when he reaches the same future. I said it’s his last attempt because at the end when he goes out, the colors stay grey and it fits with the lyrics.
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As this time they accepted their destiny, it seems the yellow and blue co-existing in “IDOL” is for real this time.
The boy found the blue sea. He doesn’t hate the yellow desert anymore. He has reached the New Neverland.
As a picture is worth a thousand words, I’ll use an ugly one for my conclusion:
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Nota Bene: it’s interesting to consider those colors based on the Teageuk. The red is associated with the negative cosmic energies and the Earth: it’s the dystopian world from where the boys started. The blue is associated with positive energies and Heaven: it’s the ocean the boys dream to reach. Yellow represents humanity: the boys are in the desert and eventually they realize it’s from this desert that the ocean comes from. Combining the yellow humanity with the blue hope gives green, which represents youth in Bangtan’s works according to the WINGS Concept Book.
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