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THE ALLIGATOR PEOPLE (1959) – Episode 161 – Decades Of Horror: The Classic Era

“Dirty, stinkin’, slimy gators! You bit my hand off, didn’t you? I’m gonna spend the rest of my life killing gators. The rest of my life … killing ’em!” Maybe you shouldn’t have put your hand in the gator’s mouth. Join this episode’s Grue-Crew – Daphne Monary-Ernsdorff, Doc Rotten, and Jeff Mohr – as they take in a sweat-soaked Lon Chaney Jr. and the wonderful Beverly Garland in the story of a man-turned-gator as told in The Alligator People (1959).

Decades of Horror: The Classic Era Episode 161 – The Alligator People (1959)

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A woman in a hypnotic state recounts to two doctors the details of a horrific experience from her past life that began with the mysterious and sudden disappearance of her husband.

  Director: Roy Del Ruth 

Writers: Orville H. Hampton (screenplay); Orville H. Hampton & Charles O’Neal (story by); Robert M. Fresco (uncredited)

Producer: Jack Leewood

Music: Irving Gertz

Cinematographer: Karl Struss (director of photography)

Editor: Harry Gerstad

Makeup Department:

Hair Stylist: Eve Newing

Makeup Artist: Ben Nye, Dick Smith (not that Dick Smith)

Special Effects: Fred Etcheverry

Selected Cast:

Beverly Garland as Joyce Webster – aka Jane Marvin

Bruce Bennett as Dr. Eric Lorimer

Lon Chaney Jr. as Manon (as Lon Chaney)

George Macready as Dr. Mark Sinclair

Frieda Inescort as  Mrs. Lavinia Hawthorne – Henry’s Wife

Richard Crane as Paul Webster

Douglas Kennedy as Dr. Wayne MacGregor

Bill Bradley as Patient ‘Number Six’ (uncredited)

Hal K. Dawson as  Train Conductor (uncredited)

Dudley Dickerson as Train Porter (uncredited)

John Frederick as 1st Male Nurse (uncredited)

Ruby Goodwin as Louann – the Maid (uncredited)

Ken Kane as Third Male Nurse (uncredited)

Boyd Stockman as  Alligator-Headed Paul (uncredited)

Vince Townsend Jr. as Toby – the Butler (uncredited)

Lee Warren as 2nd Male Nurse (uncredited)

Calling all MONSTER KIDS! It’s time for the Grue Crew to head to the bayou alongside actress Beverly Garland in search of her missing husband in the B&W creature feature The Alligator People (1959). Let’s throw in some hilariously creepy – but still awesome as ever – Lon Chaney, Jr. for good measure. See a man turn into a gruesome gator – with pants! All kidding aside, this is a terrific B-Movie classic that should not be missed. 

At the time of this writing, The Alligator People is available to stream from the Classic Horror Movie Channel and Wicked Horror TV. The film is also available on disc as a Blu-ray from Shout! Factory.

Gruesome Magazine’s Decades of Horror: The Classic Era records a new episode every two weeks. Up next in their very flexible schedule, as chosen by Chad, is This Island Earth (1955), two-and-a-half years in the making!

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Check out this episode!

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Beverly Garland and Boyd Stockman in The Alligator People (1959)

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The Man From Laramie 1955

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Tank Releases ‘Elevation’ Album | 2DOPEBOYZ

Tank Releases ‘Elevation’ Album | 2DOPEBOYZ

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It’s been two years since Tank released a project (2017’s Savage), but the veteran singer is back in action with album number nine, Elevation.

Locked in at 14 tracks, including “I Don’t Think You’re Ready,” “Dirty” (and the remix with Chris Brown), the album comes equipped with features from Shawn Stockman, Keith Sweat, JoJo, Candice Boyd, Luke James, Ghost Omari Hardwick, Carvena Jones

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mp3 320 kbps | 113 mb  01 Overture (with Omari Hardwick) 02 Elevation (feat. Carvena Jones) 03 WWJD 04 Champion 05 No Cap (feat. Dante, Dontay, Duntea) 06 I Don’t Think You’re Ready 07 Dirty 08 Somebody Else (feat. JoJo) 09 Do You (feat. Keith Sweat & Candice Boyd) 10 I Promise 11 You Mean More (feat. Luke James & Major) 12 This (feat. Shawn Stockman & Omari Hardwick) 13 Our Song 14 Dirty [Remix] (feat. Chris Brown, Feather & Rahky)

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ELEVATION - Tank

ELEVATION – Tank

Overture (with Omari Hardwick) Elevation (feat. Carvena Jones) WWJD Champion No Cap (feat. Dant, Donta, Dunte) I Don’t Think You’re Ready Dirty Somebody Else (feat. JoJo) Do You (feat. Keith Sweat & Candice Boyd) I Promise You Mean More (feat. Luke James & Major) This (feat. Shawn Stockman & Omari Hardwick) Our Song Dirty (Remix) [feat. Chris Brown, Feather & Rahky] SONG LIST TIME

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For the week of 23 September 2019

Quick Bits:

Action Comics #1015 introduces Naomi to the broader DC Universe as she reaches out to Superman to help understand her powers, from Brian Michael Bendis, Szymon Kudranski, Brad Anderson, and Dave Sharpe. It’s pretty great. There’s a nice amount of humour and optimism here as she stumbles her way through.

| Published by DC Comics

Amazing Spider-Man #30 is a tie-in to Absolute Carnage as Peter tries to keep Normie and Dylan safe from Norman, but also gives us more insight into Kindred. It definitely feels like they’re setting him up to be either Flash or Harry, but that could just be misdirection. Great art from Ryan Ottley, Cliff Rathburn, and Nathan Fairbairn.

| Published by Marvel

Angel #5 is the other prelude to the Hellmouth event and is much more prelude-y than the integral Buffy the Vampire Slayer #8. This is more the continuation of Angel’s gathering the team story, introducing us to this interpretation of Gunn and his history. Gleb Melnikov and Roman Titov do some killer work here.

| Published by BOOM! Studios

Bad Reception #2 is even better than the first issue as we get a better look at the characters and the mystery of the murders at the wedding kicks off in earnest. Juan Doe is really doing a great job of building tension here, with scheming and planning going on, making you question who could possibly be the perpetrator here.

| Published by AfterShock

Batgirl #39 complicates things further as Oracle seeks out a way to bring Batgirl down and pockets of violence among otherwise peaceful citizens begins to erupt after Luthor’s offer. Cecil Castellucci, Carmine Di Giandomenico, Jordie Bellaire, and AndWorld Design are delivering a very nice multi-layered story here.

| Published by DC Comics

Batman/Superman #2 gives a fairly epic confrontation with an infected SHAZAM as Batman and Superman learn more of The Batman Who Laughs’ plan. I do find it interesting that this isn’t being branded as a “Year of the Villain” tie-in, but it is largely integral to that, as well as continuing the thread from Metal. Gorgeous artwork from David Marquez and Alejandro Sanchez, really leaning in to the epic scope of a Superman vs. SHAZAM battle.

| Published by DC Comics

Bettie Page Unbound #4 concludes Bettie’s multiversal adventure with a trip to Neverland. David Avallone, Julius Ohta, Ellie Wright, Sheelagh D, and Taylor Esposito have delivered an interesting trip through Dynamite’s various properties, so it’s kind of weird to end on Peter Pan, but it’s still good.

| Published by Dynamite

Black Panther #16 sees Daniel Acuña outdo himself with the artwork. This issue is beautiful as T’Challa resumes the reins of governing Wakanda and we get a showcase of Storm vs. some remnants of the Emperor’s regime.

| Published by Marvel

Black Science #43 is the end. In many ways, these two parallel worlds of a rebellious Grant and a submissive Grant live up to the spirit of the entire series in microcosm, showing us what happens through both inaction and action, and how many terrible choices Grant ultimately makes regardless of where he ends up. Rick Remender, Matteo Scalera, Moreno Dinisio, and Rus Wooton have given us an incredible story here.

| Published by Image / Giant Generator

Bloodshot #1 is an action-packed debut from Tim Seeley, Brett Booth, Adelso Corona, Andrew Dalhouse, and Dave Sharpe. It’s basically Bloodshot against a paramilitary group, with some seeds of that same paramilitary group meeting with the G7 leaders to sanction hunting and killing Bloodshot.

| Published by Valiant

Bronze Age Boogie #6 concludes this series from Stuart Moore, Alberto Ponticelli, Giulia Brusco, and Rob Steen. It’s been fun, reminiscent of some of the weirdness of Doom Patrol, but definitely not a knock-off. Very happy to find out there’s another special coming.

| Published by Ahoy

Criminal #8 turns the spotlight on Jane for part four of “Cruel Summer” from Ed Brubaker, Sean Phillips, and Jacob Phillips. It’s interesting as to how more complex and complicated this arc keeps getting as more layers are revealed through each character, including the set up here for what possibly is going to bring all the plans down.

| Published by Image

Deadly Class #40 kicks off “Bone Machine” as Saya and Maria get a reunion and Helmut tries to get revenge for Petra. In the latter, we find out that Petra’s people are pretty much nuts. Great art from Wes Craig and Jordan Boyd.

| Published by Image / Giant Generator

Detective Comics #1012 goes full bore on Freeze’s mad science experiments for reanimating dead tissue, as he has his teams kidnap women with similar characteristics as his wife. Peter J. Tomasi, Doug Mahnke, Jaime Mendoza, David Baron, and Rob Leigh are certainly making this feel unnerving.

| Published by DC Comics

Doctor Mirage #2 is more wondrous storytelling from Magdalene Visaggio, Nick Robles, Jordie Bellaire, and Dave Sharpe. The art is phenomenal, bringing together some weird surrealism and detailed ancient spaces, and its interesting to see the selfishness driving Shan.

| Published by Valiant

Ether: The Disappearance of Violet Bell #1 begins the third volume in this series from Matt Kindt, David Rubín, and Kike J. Diaz. It’s pretty bleak. Despite being brought to life through the gorgeous artwork of Rubín and Diaz, everything has more or less gone to crap in Boone’s life. His friends and family are either dead or hate him and now Ether itself is being corrupted. Add to that a mystery, and you’ve got a compelling start here.

| Published by Dark Horse

Harleen #1 is really damn good. I’m not one to like romanticizing the relationship between Harley Quinn and the Joker, but damn if Stjepan Šejić and Gabriela Downie don’t manage to make this a beautiful and compelling story of an intelligent woman’s descent into madness.

| Published by DC Comics / Black Label

Justice League Dark #15 continues to be one of the best things currently being published by DC, going deep into the dark side’s history and continuity and coming back up with some fascinating character developments and changes into something new. James Tynion IV, Alvaro Martínez Bueno, Raul Fernandez, Brad Anderson, and Rob Leigh are working magic here. It should also be interesting to see what kind of nightmare Man-Bat has turned himself into now.

| Published by DC Comics

Mall #2 deepens the mystery of why and how Andre was framed, while gang warfare threatens to fully erupt. I really quite like the world-building that Michael Moreci, Gary Dauberman, Zak Hartong, Addison Duke, and Jim Campbell are doing here and love the artwork.

| Published by Vault

Manor Black #3 gives us most of the answers as to what’s going on in this penultimate chapter from Cullen Bunn, Brian Hurtt, and Tyler Crook. The designs for the wild magicians are really neat.

| Published by Dark Horse

The Plot #1 is a great start to this old-school horror from Tim Daniel, Michael Moreci, Joshua Hixson, Jordan Boyd, and Jim Campbell. There’s a mix of family secrets, dark horror in the past, and monsters ready to bury them all. The art from Hixson and Boyd is incredible.

| Published by Vault

Relics of Youth #1 is an intriguing start from Matt Nicholas, Chad Rebmann, Skylar Patridge, Vladimir Popov, and AndWorld Design. This first issue sets up an interesting mystery of six kids with matching tattoos, each having weird visions of an island. As they set out to try to find whatever it is, they find that there’s so much more going on.

| Published by Vault

Resonant #3 sees everything get worse. As their dad is still away, captured for use in what looks like a labour gang, Bec and Ty see their relationship crumble, torn apart over waiting for him and not knowing what to do. David Andry, Alejandro Aragon, Jason Wordie, and Deron Bennett continue to make this one of the most unique post-apocalypse tales out there, with a very interesting focus on the characters.

| Published by Vault

SFSX #1 is another refugee from Vertigo being shuttered, presenting a world where a puritanical Party has taken control and is enacting strict “purity” laws in regards to sex and conduct. Tina Horn, Michael Dowling, and Steve Wands create a fairly interesting world here, with some hints that everything might not be what it seems with the Party.

| Published by Image

Strikeforce #1 is an interesting debut from Tini Howard, Germán Peralta, Jordie Bellaire, and Joe Sabino. It’s a very weird team, brought together through being framed by a race of shapeshifters left after the War of the Realms.

| Published by Marvel

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #98 steps closer to the end of “City at War” as the turtles regroup and everything changes with Stockman winning the election. It’s amazing as to how quickly things have changes this arc, it makes you wonder how much is going to stick around as a new status quo after #100.

| Published by IDW

Thanos #6 concludes the series from Tini Howard, Ariel Olivetti, Antonio Fabela, and Joe Caramagna. It’s interesting how this ties into the broader arc of what’s also going on in the current Guardians of the Galaxy series, with Gamora and Magus.

| Published by Marvel

Tommy Gun Wizards #2 continues this excellent series from Christian Ward, Sami Kavelä, Dee Cunniffe, and Hassan Otsmane-Elhaou. The blend of magic with Prohibition era crime is a wonderful mix.

| Published by Dark Horse

The White Trees #2 concludes this wonderful mini from Chip Zdarsky, Kris Anka, Matt Wilson, and Aditya Bidikar. The feeling of old friends turned to resentment continues here in very interesting ways and we get a twist in the tale that really changes things.

| Published by Image

Wonder Woman #79 continues “Loveless” as the world continues to fall apart after the death of Aphrodite and Luthor’s doom spreads. Really nice to see art here from Scot Eaton.

| Published by DC Comics

Other Highlights: Absolute Carnage: Miles Morales #2, Avengers #24, Avengers: Loki Unleashed #1, Batman: Nightwalker, Books of Magic #12, Captain America #14, The Crow / Hack/Slash #3, Dial H for HERO #7, Evolution #18, Faithless #6, Fearless #3, Fight Club 3 #9, The Flash #79, Freedom Fighters #9, From Hell: Master Edition #7, Ghost Spider #2, Immortal Hulk: Director’s Cut #4, Invader Zim #47, Jim Henson’s The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance #1, Jughead’s Time Police #4, Knights Temporal #3, Lumberjanes #66, Marvel Comics Presents #9, Marvel Team-Up #6, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers #43, New Mutants: War Children #1, Powers of X #5, Punisher Kill Krew #3, Queen of Bad Dreams #4, Ragnarok: The Breaking of Helheim #2, Rick & Morty #54. The Ride: Burning Desire #4, RWBY #3, Secret Spiral of Swamp Kid, Sera & The Royal Stars #3, Star Trek: Discovery - Aftermath #2, Star Wars: Age of Resistance - Kylo Ren #1, Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order - Dark Temple #2, Star Wars: Target Vader #3, Star Wars Adventures #26, Superior Spider-Man #11, Warlord of Mars Attacks #4, Wolverine Annual #1

Recommended Collections: Angel - Volume 1, Captain America - Volume 2: Captain of Nothing, Cyber Force: Awakening - Volume 4, Deathstroke: Arkham, Ghostbusters: 35th Anniversary Collection, The Goon - Volume 1: Ragged Return to Lonely Street, Kaijumax - Volume 4: Season Four - Scaly is the New Black, Mae - Volume 2, Monstress - Volume 4, Paper Girls - Volume 6, Secret Warps, TMNT - Volume 22: City at War Pt. 1

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Dave’s Faves for the Sotheby’s auction on 16 May 2018

The upcoming Sotheby's auction on 16 May is titled "Important Australian & New Zealand Art", a departure from the usual "Australian & International Art", and with good reason: lots 97 and 98 are created by two of our neighbour's most sought-after artists, Charles Frederick Goldie (1870 - 1947) and Gottfried Lindauer (1839 - 1926).

Both Goldie and Lindauer are best known for their Maori subjects, and Sotheby's have dedicated a separate brochure to these two outstanding rare paintings, presumably to make it easier to reach the audience across the ditch.

The Australian offering is grouped into two catalogues, as the sale includes 38 works from the J.G.L. collection, bringing the total to 137 lots, a hefty number for the traditionally leaner Sotheby's catalogues.

Viewings are held in Melbourne and Sydney, and a personal visit is highly recommended:

- Melbourne from 2 to 6 May, at Level 9, 41 Exhibition Street

- Sydney from 10 to 16 May, at 30 Queen Street, Woollahra

If you cannot attend, have a look online at Sotheby's Australia.

The public auction is held on Wednesday, 16 May, 6.30 pm, at the Intercontinental Sydney.

If you are interested in any of the lots and would like to prepare the best you can to make a successful purchase, contact us on 02 9977 7764 or by email info@bhfineart.com.

We would be delighted to assist you with due diligence and sound advice, before, during and after the auction.

And Dave's Faves are:

[caption id="attachment_4570" align="alignleft" width="216"] Lot 1 - Arthur Boyd, Narcissus and Cave (1976), est. $30,000-40,000. Take me to the River[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4571" align="alignleft" width="227"] Lot 2 - Fred Williams, Treefern Hillside, near Tallebudgera (1971), est. $30,000-40,000. Fantastic Ferny Fred[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4572" align="alignleft" width="300"] Lot 3 - Justin O'Brien, Maremma Landscape (1986), est. $60,000-80,000. Paradise Found[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4573" align="alignleft" width="300"] Lot 7 - Brett Whiteley, Maroeton Bay Fig, Botanic Gardens (1984), est. $900,000-1,100,000. Brett's branching out again[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4574" align="alignleft" width="262"] Lot 12 - Del Kathryn Barton, Of Pollen 2013, est. $100,000-140,000. Pollinate don't procrastinate[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4575" align="alignleft" width="194"] Lot 14 - Daniel Boyd, King No Beard 2008, est. $15,000-25,000. This parrot really speaks to me[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4576" align="alignleft" width="210"] Lot 17 - Michael Zavros, Debaser / Marc Jacobs 2010, est. $10,000-15,000. Don't rub this one off your list[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4577" align="alignleft" width="300"] Lot 19 - John Perceval, Adam and Eve 1951, est. $20,000-30,000. No bad apples here[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4578" align="alignleft" width="300"] Lot 22 - John Perceval, The Annunciation, 1969, est. $40,000-60,000. Mary gets the good news[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4579" align="alignleft" width="300"] Lot 24 - Sidney Nolan, Kelly at Glenrowan 1964, est. $150,000-250,000. A Kelly with welly[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4580" align="alignleft" width="177"] Lot 31 - Russell Drysdale, Long Tom 1961, est. $10,000-15,000. Stick up your hand for this stockman[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4581" align="alignleft" width="197"] Lot 36 - Brett Whiteley, The Meeting 1981, est. $1,200,000-1,400,000. A Bird in hand[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4582" align="alignleft" width="226"] Lot 37 - Sidney Nolan, Carcass of ram 1953, est. $150,000-200,000. Dead set[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4583" align="alignleft" width="300"] Lot 39 - Jeffrey Smart, Flea Market, Paris (1949-1950), est. $70,000-90,000. Make like Manny Macron[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4584" align="alignleft" width="297"] Lot 52 - Richard Larter, Film Goddess 1959, est. $8,000-12,000. A nice little starter from Larter[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4585" align="alignleft" width="173"] Lot 53 - Guy Boyd, Swimmer (1981), est. 10,000-15,000. All ready for the Cole Classic[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4586" align="alignleft" width="293"] Lot 55 - John Coburn, Tower of Babel 1973, est. $35,000-45,000. I covet this classic Coburn[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4587" align="alignleft" width="156"] Lot 58 - John Olsen, Kalla Kooper in Flood 1978, est. $60,000-80,000. I see a flood of hands go up for this one[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4588" align="alignleft" width="300"] Lot 60 - Arthur Boyd, The Artist, Rock Cleft and Reflections, est. $50,000-70,000. Is Boyd's blue for you?[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4589" align="alignleft" width="247"] Lot 88 - Adrian Feint, (Hibiscus), 1957, est. $4,000-6,000. Lion Island and lion of a painting[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4590" align="alignleft" width="226"] Lot 90 - Elioth Gruner, Lion Island 1920, est. $15,000-20,000. The lion roars once again[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4591" align="alignleft" width="300"] Lot 91 - Norman Lindsay, The Duke's Picnic (1945), est. $30,000-40,000. In glorious technicolor[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4592" align="alignleft" width="300"] Lot 98 - Gottfried Lindauer, Maori Girl Learning the Haka (circa 1907), est. $250,000-350,000. Prepare to battle it out with the Auckland Art Gallery. Ka mau te pai[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4593" align="alignleft" width="208"] Lot 100 - Danila Vassilieff, Three Forms (1953), est. $30,000-50,000. Vassilieff rocks[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4594" align="alignleft" width="214"] Lot 110 - Albert Tucker, Image of Modern Evil 1972, est. $20,000-30,000. Evil Grin[/caption]

[caption id="attachment_4595" align="alignleft" width="173"] Lot 112 - Albert Tucker, Image of Modern Evil (1972), est. $20,000-30,000. Bronzed Aussie[/caption]

  Dave’s Faves for the Sotheby’s auction on 16 May 2018 was first published to: BH Fine Art Consultants

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The Man from Laramie (1955) Directed by Anthony Mann, Will comes to the ranch town of Coronado looking for the man who is selling rifles to the Apaches, because his brother was killed with one.

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The Hanging Tree

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The Hanging Tree : Character study of a Doctor who saves a local criminal from a mob who are trying to hang him, but then tries to control the life of the young man, realising that he can exploit his secret.

Genres:-Drama,Romance,Western

Actors:-Baron James Lichter,Ben Piazza,Bob Morgan,Boyd Stockman,Bud Osborne,Cactus Mack,Clarence Straight,Danny Borzage,Dick Hudkins,Don…

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Column South 1953

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3:10 to Yuma 1957

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The Man from Laramie

The Man from Laramie

The Man from Laramie: Mysterious Will Lockhart delivers supplies to storekeeper Barbara Waggoman at Coronado, an isolated town in Apache country. Before long, he’s tangled with Dave Waggoman, vicious son of autocratic rancher Alec and cousin of sweet Barbara. But he sticks around town, his presence a catalyst for changes in people’s lives, searching for someone he doesn’t know…who’s been selling…