#book adaptation

[supercupcakecollector-love]

Honestly yes, always watch the adaptation of something first, then get the full, more detailed story later after you have some basic plot beats and visual references. when I first went into Wheel of Time completely blind, I was interested but felt it was a very truncated story. I wanted to know more, so that got me into the books

and now that Iv read the first few books, I feel like being a fan of both; they complement each other, being able to see actors in these roles helps you see them from another POV

Honestly, flawed adaptations are more likely to get me to read the stories they are based on, not just for Wheel of Time, but I also don't think I would have ever read Percy Jackson, 11/22/63, or Catch 22 if I had not watched the series based on them first, and wanted more details and now they are some of my favorite books

People who insist they need to read the books before watching the wheel of time, I am holding your hand. Listen to me. That’s the dark one speaking.

Pleaaaaaaase just watch the show first Trust Me you will likely have a much better time, you can read the books later when you’re really invested and you’ll get more out of them when you can pick up on the early foreshadowing.

I adore these books, but the show is a much better and more accessible point of entry for most people new to the story. Even if just for ease of watching 8 episode seasons instead of reading 800 page bricks. Also the show’s gayer and has more early focus on and development of the main female characters.

also also, and this is key, I need more people to watch the show as soon as possible so it gets renewed for the five more planned seasons k thx bye

[thomascromwelll]

"He, Cromwell."

MARK RYLANCE as Thomas Cromwell Wolf Hall: The Mirror And The Light (2024)

[gwenllian-in-the-abbey]

how would you "redo" house of the dragons??? i agree with alot of your critics so i'm curious how you'd personally fix them!

Hi anon! I've thought about this and discussed it so much over the past couple years since HotD started so I'm glad you asked!

To start, I think when making an adaptation and not a retelling or a reimagining, there is a certain duty on the part of the production to be faithful to the spirit of the original, if not to the letter. George himself wrote last year, in a a piece that was praising Shogun for being a masterclass in adaptation:

Everywhere you look, there are more screenwriters and producers eager to take great stories and “make them their own.”   It does not seem to matter whether the source material was written by Stan Lee, Charles Dickens, Ian Fleming, Roald Dahl, Ursula K. Le Guin, J.R.R. Tolkien, Mark Twain, Raymond Chandler, Jane Austen, or… well, anyone.   No matter how major a writer it is, no matter how great the book, there always seems to be someone on hand who thinks he can do better, eager to take the story and “improve” on it.   “The book is the book, the film is the film,” they will tell you, as if they were saying something profound.   Then they make the story their own.

With George's books in particular, and a fandom that was burned by one flawed adaptation already, I would take particular care not to change the themes, characters, or storylines of the book. If I didn't like the book to begin with, I should not be adapting it for film or television. Particularly with a living author, I think there needs to be a certain level of care taken when handling someone else's words that I think Ryan Condal in particular has failed to demonstrate.

There was an interview with George before S1 aired ( in which he talked about how he'd originally had the idea to actually use the framing device of a maester and maybe his apprentice, sifting through different stories, and we'd get to see the different versions played out, with the framing device characters adding commentary. I think that could have been very cool if done well. Something a bit like Rashomon or more recently, The Last Duel. This idea sticks closer to the spirit of F&B and doesn't force the writers into choosing one objective true telling. It would also be a good chance to get a bit creative with the fantasy genre, and to do something that would not constantly be compared to Game of Thrones.

However, if we were keeping to the straight linear narrative that is meant to portray some sort of objective truth, I would start by asking myself, what is this story trying to say? What is this story about? I'd sit down with George and ask him the same thing. I'd try to make it feel true to the setting and I'd try to write it as a balanced conflict without framing either side as having the clear moral high ground (wars of succession, by their very nature, are not moral conflicts because feudal monarchy isn't a moral system. an individual's right to sit on the throne does not supersede the people's right to peace and stability, morally speaking). I'd respect the source material while making necessary adjustments due to budget, practical constraints, streamlining the story, etc., but I would not change the essence of the story. The Dance of the Dragons was not written to be a story about two women who are unable to let go of their love for each other even though they are forced to be on opposite sides of a war. That sounds like a great story, but it's an original story, not an adaptation.

I'm not going to bother with a point by point breakdown because there are so many things I'd do differently at this point, but also I don't think it's necessarily the specific changes themselves that have made this show the mess that it is but rather an overall disconnect between the source material and the show's creators. So I'd try to avoid that disconnect, not to be a "book purist," but because I would not choose to adapt a story I didn't believe in as written.

[imthefailedartist]

Carrie is fat in the book. Learning that completely blew me.

The use of pigs blood makes so much more sense. The reason she was bullied so relentlesly, even though she does nothing to nobody, makes so much more sense. The relationship with her mother makes so much more sense.

I know they aren't going to, but I wish they would cast someone fat in this new Carrie adaptation. From the articles I've seen, they are already speculating which skinny actress it's going to be.

How many times can they tell the story the same exact way? The answer: endlessly.

I don't know what's worse the total erasure of fat people in movies or the only story we get to see ourselves in are the love yourself fatty movies.

[dyllpiccle]

Character designs done for my Six of Crows adaptation last semester.

[sloanegabe]

Lady Jane Grey & Lord Guildford Dudley in MY LADY JANE (2024)

[k-wame]

best summary of this film ive ever read

[unpopped-cherry]

"Can we talk about the Wicked graphic novel please, Mac?"

[keepscrollinghun]

Olivia (1951) dir. Jacqueline Audry ↳ based on Dorothy Bussy's semi-autobiographical novel Olivia (1949).

[myovin]

Family portrait </3

[atwellfilm]

HAYLEY ATWELL is MARY CRAWFORD

Mansfield Park (2007)

[thomascromwelll]

"Mary puts her hand over her mouth. She gives a little moan, and her forehead tents in a deep frown, and the next moment, her nose is running and tears are rolling down her cheeks – cold weighty tears, like stones before a tomb. He crosses the room to her. On a thin note, from between her fingers, she keens as if she had stumbled over a corpse. She sways and bleats, and he grips her to keep her on her feet, mouse bones jumping and trembling in his grasp." — The Mirror and The Light by HIlary Mantel

"He can hear Mary’s thoughts, as loud as if they were slapping the walls: I am a princess of England, you have made promises to me. ‘Mary,’ he says, ‘mark this. My promises are kept now. You have my duty and regard. Count on that. No more.’" — The Mirror and The Light by HIlary Mantel

LILIT LESSER as Mary Tudor (Mary I) Wolf Hall: The Mirror and The Light — Episode one 'Wreckage'

[readthebookfirstpodcast]

[wolfhalledits-archive]

Thomas Cromwell + Marlinspike Wolf Hall | Episode 2 'Entirely Beloved'

Look. "I am a giant... My name is Marlinspike. Grrrr!"

+bonus: Wolsey with Marlinspike

[fonteyn]

ONEGIN.

Marianela Nunez as Tatiana Larina. Thiago Soares as Eugene Onegin. Choreography by John Cranko, adapting Alexander Pushkin's 1833 novel "Eugene Onegin".