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inkz123 · 1 month ago
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Drawing for @5Oshadesofr3d (twidder) of their OC Jinx!✨ thank you🙏💕
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vivalich · 11 months ago
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biblically accurate kitamura!
be! not! afraid!
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telltalebatman · 1 year ago
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ok. got to that part in forspoken where frey gets stuck in a hallucination and cuff takes the form of a waiter. and now excuse me while i go and bite every person who thinks this must surely be his canon human form-
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neil-gaiman · 1 year ago
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I have a few questions about some headcannons I have and I just want to know if any of them would be plausible
1) do the Angel's have the ability to sprout multiple eyes like a biblically accurate angel?
2) what's the accuracy of angels crying holy water? (one of the sadder headcannoms as if they were to do this, and azi cried, then Crowley wouldn't be able to comfort him)
Headcanons are headcanons. Unless they become canon or are disproved as canon on the screen or the page they remain headcanons for always. I don't get to have opinions about them, and even if I do unless they are on screen or on the page it doesn't matter.
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bazpire · 2 months ago
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Angel being actually an angel headcanon, but it's my own spin:
Half angel, half human. Their father being a full blooded angel while their mother was an unempowered human.
Biblically accurate angel, meaning multiple eyes, various sets of wings that can turn into fiery swords, you know the deal.
They're a cherub type of angel, and no, those aren't the little babies you think of. The cherubs are angels with animal-like characteristics. Usually more fantastical. In my head, they have snake-like characteristics, with faint scales, hypnotising eyes, and fangs that can excrete venom. This venom in big quantities can be mortal, of course, but in small doses, it mostly just paralyses the victim. This is if it's inserted into the victim's bloodstream. Otherwise, it'll just make the area in which it was in contact with 'tingly' or even have the opposite effect, heightening the sensations on that area. (Yes, it is because of filthy reasons, let me live.)
Speaking of, ejem, not so angelic characteristics, their tongue can expand and split. Do with that as you will.
In my mind, they got small little wings on each side of their head (kind of acting like ears), big ones on the back (that can disguise as a tattoo), and smaller ones on their ankles. Their wings are, of course, crazy soft and comfy, bringing a sense of comfort and tranquillity to those who are enveloped by them. They also have a faint glow on the daily that can become brighter if they experience strong emotions like rage or joy.
Anyway, that's my angel!Angel, so... yeah.
Idk why I shared this. I just wanted to.
And once again, I don't know how to end this post.
Yeehaw.
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pilot-boi · 2 months ago
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i am currently asking about the angel au, pop off my dude
Okay
So when I say it was reader led, I mean I created a world and a plot and changed my whole blog theme for a whole month. People sent in asks, and I would answer them as if I was the characters in the story. Through this, the audience slowly revealed the plot and the world
I posted art of all the major characters, drawn in the style of as if they are being surveilled by the Facility (the research place) in the case of people on the outside, or as case reports in the case of the test subjects
The basic idea was that the Brother gods had angels that would do their bidding on Remnant and be the go between for them and humanity. (The gods were more ambivalent in this version, but it doesn’t really come up) The angels also sort of act like the Greek gods do, occasionally inter mingling with humanity to create semi-deific offspring
When the gods leave Remnant and take magic with them, it sent a ripple across the world forever altering everyone who lives there. EVERYONE was combined at a fundamental level with animals, gaining many of their physical traits and instincts. MANY more traits than Faunus’ one. For example, Ruby is a wolf hybrid and she has the hindquarters, tail, ears, little snoot, and paw pads/claws on her fingers
The angels also left with the gods, but because they weren’t fully immortal they were sort of banished to another realm. A sort of in between dimension where they can observe but not directly interfere. The audience are actually these angels!
The real problem comes from the humans/angel half breeds
Centuries passed and the bloodlines become more and more diluted. Salem, who was a little girl at the time of the cataclysm, is now an old woman. (She’s a snake hybrid so her lifespan was greatly increased. She’s had to watch everyone she loves die)
Over the centuries she was able to accrue a large amount of wealth and influence, so she starts researching the gods. And when that falls apart, she starts researching the angels. Eventually she finds out that their descendants are still around, although it’s been so long that they haven’t had abilities or wings for centuries
She puts in more money, time, and research and eventually figures out how to identify the people with latent angel DNA. And how to bring their traits to the forefront
Ironwood becomes involved at this point, seeing the program as a good way to create soldiers. Salem is just using him, but he doesn’t really care. Their first test subjects are prisoners on death row, people who if they went missing nobody would care. Hundreds of prisoners die in the Facility from failed transformations. Tyrian is the first one to survive, and the process is perfected with Hazel
(By transformation I mean multiple wings, floating rings of eyes, maws of teeth and eyes, that sort of thing. The gods angels were FULL biblically accurate)
But they have their own opinions. They’re adults. They’re incredibly strong and useful, but Salem needs minds she can mold. So she starts “recruiting” children
Cinder, Roman, Neo, Mercury, and Emerald all less than willingly join their ranks. They’re all children when they’re kidnapped, and it’s been at least fifteen years for most of them by the time the plot actually starts
The final recruit is Jaune Arc, Salem’s own grandson. He’s the perfect candidate, her own family, trusting and with latent angel traits to boot. He vanishes from his home, has his memories wiped (the only one to do so since the others don’t have a home to remember) and joins their ranks
The plot begins when one of Ironwood’s other projects, Project Achilles aka star athlete Pyrrha Nikos, makes friends with Raphael.
Salem can’t call him Jaune in case his memories come back, and the scientists only refer to them all by case number. The other angels and other employees (Pyrrha, Pietro, Penny) call him Jaune
Salem doesn’t like that Raphael is getting close to someone else, because that means he might start thinking for himself. So she has Pyrrha killed. This makes Jaune lose it and have his mind wiped AGAIN, this time of all memories of Pyrrha
And this is the final straw for Pietro Polendina. Penny is caught in the crossfire and grievously injured. And when he’s sent to check on Jaune after he’s wiped, he doesn’t remember Pyrrha. So a break out happens, and Jaune Arc Test Subject Extraordinaire arrives on Ezra Ozpin’s porch
That’s where the plot begins at least. I can’t summarize all of it, and there’s a BUNCH of stuff I missed, but that’s the beginning. If you want to read it, you can either go through the faau tag, or go to the AO3 link below
And I’d love to hear your thoughts :]
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melliae · 3 months ago
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The Great Seal’s Design
Considering how close Episode Aigis/The Answer is to being released, I think it’s time to point out one of the most interesting design choices in the game. Because everyone must have asked themselves why does the Great Seal look like this:
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A golden door with 6 eyes and 4 spirals…
Well, the choice for it to be a door has an obvious source: one of the titles the Death card receives in esoteric traditions (in particular Thelema) is the “Lord of the Gate of Death”. This title also influenced the card rendition of P3 and P4.
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The doors behind the skull? Yeah, they are the ones.
I don’t think I’ve to do an in-depth explanation of why doors—and thresholds in general—are a perfect representation for death and transformation/evolution, going from the known and familiar world into the great unknown, from the inner into the outer and vice versa.
“Man is a gateway, through which from the outer world of gods, daemons, and souls ye pass into the inner world; out of the greater into the smaller world. Small and transitory is man. Already is he behind you, and once again ye find yourselves in endless space, in the smaller or innermost infinity. At immeasurable distance standeth one single Star in the zenith.” - Seven Sermons to the Dead.
And as a curiosity that has no particular relation with the Seal’s design: Makoto created the Seal within Nyx’s body, yet The Answer showed him using it within the depths of the collective unconscious. Pretty interesting, and I can only link it with the Star mentioned in the previous quote, and thus with…
“An Indian picture of Shiva-bindu, the unextended point. It shows the divine power before the creation: the opposites are still united. The god rests in the point. Hence the snake signifies extension, the mother of Becoming, the creation of the world of forms. In India this point is also called Hiranyagarbha, 'golden germ' or 'golden egg.'” - Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious
How I lied about its importance xD
Again, I’m not going to repeat the meaning and role of Nyx’s here; I already wrote a post about it. So to put it shortly, Nyx isn’t something that can't be defeated, but only accepted, integrated and transformed. That’s why the Great Seal is a door, because doors are meant to be opened, to communicate the outer with the inner. However, as life and humanity are unable to confront their darkness, the Gate is sealed for the time being.
Now, moving into the next element, the 6 eyes! And I have a perfect quote once more.
“Eyes are round and in common speech are likened to ‘cart-wheels.’ They also seem to be a typical symbol for what I have called the ‘multiple luminosities of the unconscious.’ By this I mean the seeming possibility that complexes possess a kind of consciousness, a luminosity of their own, which, I conjecture, expresses itself in the symbol of the soul-spark, multiple eyes (polyophthalmia), and the starry heaven.” - Mysterium Coniunctionis.
That quote was in regards to an analysis of Ezekiel’s visions about (biblically-accurate, duh) angels, the cherubim and ophanim. Since those angels are the bearers of God’s throne, they become extensions of his essence and symbols of the Self as well, of the unified and whole nature of man. The animal and monstrous characteristics of the angels are due to said wholeness, which fully embraces the autonomous and (sometimes) beastly aspects of the unconscious.
At any rate, the same logic should apply to the Great Seal, with the multiple eyes it has being representations or outright multiples souls/complexes that are working harmoniously as one, constantly watching their surroundings. In this regard, the number of eyes also makes sense: 6 is the quantity of directions (above, below, front, back, right, and left) in a 3D-space like the universe. While the number doesn’t really fit with the hindu Lokapala, it does with their role as the guardians of the cardinal directions and eternal watchers of the universe at large.
However, as far as I’m aware, there’s no particular relevance of the number 6 within a psychoanalytic context beyond two mentions. The first one is in the explanation of Seven Sermons, where the candelabra named “Ignis” and “Eros” has seven arms due to the spiritual principle of the number 3, or “3 + 3 + a special 1”, which in turn connects with the second mention:
“Luna is thus the sum and essence of the metals’ natures, which are all taken up in her shimmering whiteness. She is multi-natured, whereas Sol has an exceptional nature as the ‘seventh from the six spiritual metals.’ He is “in himself nothing other than pure fire.” - Mysterium Coniunctionis
This one makes more sense, considering Makoto’s visage is a white/gray stone hanging near the center of the Seal. It can also connect with the alchemical symbol of the hexagram, representing the union of opposites during the Great Work and, as per Tatsuya’s Scenario, the macrocosm of space—or the macrocosmic universe (“大宇宙”). And just to put the final nail on the coffin:
“This sun has seven rays. A commentator remarks that four of them point to the four quarters; one points upwards, another downwards, but the seventh and ''best" points inwards. It is at the same time the sun's disc, named Hiranyagarbha.” - Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious
The six eyes are the multiple “consciousnesses” that watch over the ever-expanding and ever-developing outer word. They observe and change, focusing only on the reality that surrounds them. While the seventh ray, the most important and exceptional “metal” of all, focuses inwards, into the equal and contrary of the macrocosm: the human soul. And that disposition isn’t only found in Makoto’s “soul”, but also in the other element on the Seal, the 4 spirals.
“We can hardly escape the feeling that the unconscious process moves spiral-wise round a centre, gradually getting closer, while the characteristics of the centre grow more and more distinct. Or perhaps we could put it the other way round and say that the centre—itself virtually unknowable—acts like a magnet on the disparate materials and processes of the unconscious and gradually captures them as in a crystal lattice." - Psychology and Alchemy
4 is the number par excellence of the process of individuation and the Self, the sacred quaternity that’s ever so prevalent in mythology and folklore. And it’s present along with the figure of the spirals that, as previously quoted, stands for the movement of the psyche around its core and whole nature, the Self. Thus, the spirals go on forever, endlessly and fruitlessly getting close to the underlying archetype of life and humanity.
The eyes and spirals, then, present complementary imagery. They both represent the simultaneous collectivity and individuality of the Self, which is “smaller than small and bigger than big”. Yet, the divinity present on them is only fulfilled when the effigy of humanity is included, the immobile and changeless center from which every movement emerges and around which they move.
However, life is bound by time and change by definition. It transforms itself to accommodate archetypal wholeness. So what happens when that wholeness is achieved and embodied?
“That would probably mean—translated into our language—that when the Self, after having grown within the earthly man, has completely reached its goal, i.e., the mandala of the unus mundus, then it has a deadly effect on the earthly body because it has reached a form of definite oneness with the all-pervading cosmic One-continuum, which seems to be hostile to separated existence.” - Psyche and Matter, by Marie-Louise Von Franz.
The Self, the union between the outer and the inner, is the final goal of life, its purpose. And once it’s achieved, life is ready to “depart”, but not completely. Again, when individuation is finished the individual becomes one with the collective and world at large, and just like them, it keeps going even after death, though not necessarily in a physical manner. Again, the only thing that dies is the physical body, because the realized essence becomes everlasting, like stone itself.
“Then spirit, soul, and body become ‘the One, in which the whole mystery lies hidden.’ This ‘One’ is also described as a stone statue which is born out of the fire. It unites spirit, soul, and body and contains all four elements.” - Psyche and Matter.
The real stones that everyone knows of aren’t eternal, obviously. I’m not speaking about that kind of thing, but of their symbolic nature as things that surpass the lifespans of all living beings, that resist the weathering of time and the elements. Thus, what element better than stone to represent the non-bodily eternity of the soul? Even Erebus, with a strength that Elizabeth said was enough “to tear down mountains to the heavens”, can’t even put a scratch on Makoto’s effigy.
Following with the stone motif, Christ’s association with stones can also be highlighted, the eternal cornerstone of the house of god, as well as the Philosopher’s Stone, which, despite having red as its main color as seen with Trismegistus, is said to be a manifestation of God like Christ is, and the microcosm itself—the perfected human spirit. But again, the main idea behind the statue is that it’s Makoto’s crystallized life force, made to last as long as humanity finds life unbearable.
The Great Seal, the manifestation of Makoto’s soul and his final resolution, will forever remain in the abyss of the collective unconscious as a symbol of the potential that lies dormant within everyone—the timeless bond that joins everyone as one. And as long as it remains as such, the Gate will be eternally closed, immovable as a mountain.
He may look alone, but that's from the truth.
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go-learn-esperanto · 2 years ago
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Watchers - Evo, ATUS and Fandom
It's very common to see people blame ATUS for the way the fandom sees the watchers now but... How much did it actually come from there?
Wings (and statues):
Although the depiction of Watchers specifically having wings does exist in ATUS it's very clearly originated from Evo itself as Grian was once left a statue of what Grian called at the time "an angel lady" who had wings Grian was tasked with burning down (they represented his greed)
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You can see the EVO symbol in glass above the statue.
Even though the statue isn't exactly stated as representing a Watcher it's not really stretch, specially since the statue appears to have a obsidian staff, the same obsidian the Watchers used to cover Grian's chests.
Puzzles and riddles
Evo originated. All it's presence in ATUS comes directly from Evo. The only change might be the inclusion of stained glass windows depicting Watchers. Although I wouldn't jump to conclusions if someone right now decided to draw Watcher Grian stained glass art as it's a very common trope in general with God-like beings. Very much brought by Catholic representations if angels, saints, Jesus and the likes.
Masks
This one is one I can safely say, if you see fanart like this with a mask that isn't see through with the Evo symbol it almost certainly came from ATUS. Variants with a blindfold instead of mask might be inspired by this too. Even if the artist isn't exactly aware.
Eyes
Very nuanced topic. For startersthe name Watchers automatically inspires the idea of eyes. Of being watched too. But there's more options.
Evo never explicitly represents the Watchers with eyes.
ATUS does it a little bit. At one time when one of the masks is taken from a Watcher (that isn't Grian) they're face is shown to have a lot of eyes. However this isn't the full "wings and whole body are full of wings". Not even "Void with eyes" you now see a lot too in fandom.
I have multiple theories. The most obvious is Biblical accurate angels. Lots of wings, circles, eyes in the whole body, these are almost certainly angel originated.
Now the idea of being able to watch everything could've come from a lot of places. Even some Magnus Archives influence can be here (even if some minimal)
I will say the Watcher in ATUS are a bit disappointing in the "all seeing" department. They can sense some things but they aren't that powerful or at least scary with that.
Controlling worlds
Evo originated as the Watchers gave clues to the players so they find portals to the next updates + the puzzles + gifts and punishments. They were very much in control
Purple
Evo. From the literal Minecraft portals to the Evo icon it was very much present the whole time.
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Powers
ATUS makes use of some powers like telekinesis and the like. There is even some mention to being able to use blocks that aren't allowed/present.
The telekinesis part is very much an ATUS thing even though again - if someone is going to give powers the ability to magically move objects would be the first choice.
The part of bloks that aren't accessable to a normal player are more nuanced. In Evo the Watcher did build structures with obsidian and bedrock which are either extremely tasking to get or impossible so the grounds for that are very much there.
The ability to show up in dreams is present in ATUS but considering Taurtis' lore in Evo I'm not surprised it was inspired by that. It's not the same as the Watchers never appeared in Taurtis' dreams but Taurtis did miss going through the portal because he was sleeping and woke up to seeing everything purple with a portal animationor even more likely: the ATUS part came from the angels showing in people's dreams in the bible so again - might be in ATUS but it doesn't mean the people who write / draw stuff with it took it from there.
The Watchers destroyed Evo
Surprisingly, Evo based. As someone reminded me well, after Grian left the Watchers threw a meteor at the Property Police I believe. This leads to
Watchers are Evil
Depends of who you watch. Grian's playthings gives room for doubt. They give gifts and punish. They seem neutral at least. You could argue though that a lot of Grian's punishments were deserved. They were because Grian basically liked to prak and blow up other people's stuff.
They can be about platful as I saw someone describe them once.
Also the modification of the end poem, the one that reveals Grian turns into a Watcher himself, is quite fond.
Martyn and Jimmy on the other hand play the Watchers as more evil even in Evo. As they are more connected with the Listeners and the Listeners oppose the Watchers.
In ATUS they are shown as feigning compassion and being very manipulative.
But if you follow Last Life canon they are also shown as manipulators.
+ In Grian's lore specifically they are canonically a representation of the viwers (you and me) but this has seemed to change in Jimmy and Martyn's lore.
So I'd say ATUS made popular the "Grian was taken by the Watchers and they were awful" but the truth is that there was some ground to that already.
Watchers came from the void
Not specific stated in either Evo or ATUS actually. I don't think we ever really know where the Watchers exist in Evo but in ATUS they are from (a special kind of) the End... But there's also a logical reason for it.
Elytras and all the obsidian. And in Evo Grian got turned into a Watcher after he fought the ender dragon and used the end portal.
The idea of the void most likely comes from the void that surrounds the End.
Watchers are eldritch abominations:
Well, the Watchers in Evo don't have a canon physical appearance and in ATUS they are quite tame. A bit taller than maybe the average human, have wings, use robes... But nothing too monstrous. They use staffs and magic weapons to fight.
The idea if cryptic abomination comes from somewhere else. Probably a mixture of Biblical accurate angels and maybe some other pop culture monsters.
Bird features
100% neither Evo nor ATUS. Recent development that came from the wings and Grian's association with birds in Hermitcraft.
Grian's Watcher name is Xelqua
Surprisingly not ATUS! And not Evo either! The name is from Grian's old YouTube name but I don't know where the idea was first introduced. It wasn't in ATUS though.
Conclusion:
Except maybe the masks almost all stuff, even if more elaborated in ATUS, all the stuff as either came from Evo itself or even been inspired from something else (most likely biblical accurate angels). In fact I believe the stiff in ATUS mostly came from biical accurate angels too or just normal angels (long robes, stained glass windows)
So I think accusing all fandom depictions of the Watchers as all coming from ATUS is very silly. ATUS might have popularised the appearance of Watchers in Hermitcraft and in a way to have some Grian angst but it definitely isn't all there is to Watcher depictions. Besides that other fics have come and did things differently.
For exemple I have already read two fivs where Grian (a watcher) is a monster in the boaten hole. Yes. The idea he was like transformed into whatever he is by the Watchers might be very loosely be based on ATUS (although Watcher Grian in ATUS was never an eldritch being. He was just like a person with wings and a mask and he was still himself and capable of communicating) which in turn came from Evo but it's already very far removed from it.
Fandom changes. You might want people to watch Evo to take their own conclusions and you might ask for more variety but saying ATUS is the sole responsible for the state of fanon Watcher Grian is just false.
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saltminerising · 9 days ago
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to be completely fair to the people who wanted “biblically accurate angels,” the angel aesthetic isn’t JUST fanon. there have been a bunch of Brightshine skins with halos, extra eyes, and and multiple wings. they were designed by players, but they’re still official site items hand picked by staff. it’s a little disingenuous to act like the angel aesthetic is pure fanon with no canon basis at all. i say this as someone who loves the bugs
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duckymcdoorknob · 1 year ago
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My friends and I just watched (a few of us for the third time) The Amazing Digital Circus before class. We analyzed it heavily, and here’s what our predictions are:
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⚠️Spoilers (duh)
The whole circus is representative of Purgatory, and the six are being tested.
This one seems pretty self-explanatory
Caine seems to be some kind of guardian deity, given the fact that he can snap away Ragatha and Pomni’s glitching in an instant
Bubble seems to represent some kind of Guardian Angel that is there for support.
They are given daily tasks, multiple places to go, and are always under watch from every angle.
Not to mention that the abstractions look like biblically accurate angels…
The photos on the bedroom doors are also seemingly symbolic.
Those who abstracted have large x’s over them, and multiple rooms have wooden toy pose dolls (like the ones that artists use) on them.
We think that those abstracted represent those who failed their test and were damned, the wooden dolls are those who passed their test and have done whatever necessary to save their souls.
Caine seems like he is the one who controls that damnation or repentance, given that he can open holes in the floor and teleport and such.
This brings me into my next theory
Kinger has premonition, or has been through the whole show before.
Okay so listen
His very first line is “did someone say insect collection?” (Or something like that)
When he sees the Gloink queen, he repeats that exact line, almost as if he knew it was coming..?
Also, when Zooble was freed from its stomach, Kinger asked if Zooble had “participated in a game show” (again, ballparking these quotes)
Is this something that he knows that we don’t? Is it something that will happen in the future?
Did he have a vision? Or did he already experience that game show?
Maybe he’s a soul that was damned and was given another chance?
ANOTHER THING I THOUGHT OF-
Maybe he has had premonition of Gangle’s abstraction.
Hear me out- he jumps EVERY time Gangle is near him, almost as if he can’t see her until that moment.
My theory is, he shuts her out because he’s seen her abstraction and doesn’t want to be too attached and grieve when she goes.
Pomni may have been responsible for Kaufmo’s abstraction/Kaufmo responsible for Pomni’s arrival.
Kaufmo didn’t show up the day that Pomni arrived
Obviously we know that this is because he abstracted
But the question is, was it caused by Pomni?
This may be farfetched, but hear me out.
Pomni’s whole design is of a court jester/clown. Her color scheme is directly opposite of Kaufmo’s
Her base colors are red and blue with yellow accents. Kaufmo’s yellow with blue and red accents.
Perhaps Pomni’s arrival was because of Kaufmo’s abstraction, or maybe Kaufmo abstracted when the role of the clown was replaced?
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Pomni became self-aware
In the beginning, she fell prey to the circus. She thought she was dreaming, forgot her real name, and longed desperately for an exit.
But as the episode progressed, she seemed much more comfortable in the circus.
Naturally, this is probably because of her adjusting to her surroundings, but this is where I started to pay attention.
For starters, Pomni’s name is the Slovenian word for “remember” What’s the story behind this?
When Jax swung the key above her head, she flinched and ducked down. Was this out of fear he’d hit her? Or maybe out of habit?
If out of habit, weren’t they supposed to lose a good chunk of their memories?
When she was being chased by abstracted Kaufmo, she stopped to look in the mirror. She looks deeply into her eyes, realizing that she can see her reflection.
A person cannot see their clear reflection in a dream. If they can, it’s a warbled image and not a true reflection of them.
It’s at this moment that Pomni realizes she’s not dreaming.
When she enters the exit labyrinth, there is a famous scene with her looking at the computer setup and laughing maniacally.
My friends and I think that it’s at this point in which she realizes that she is there for a reason and remembers said reason.
That same computer is revealed at the end after the camera pans out of everything. That is Pomni’s computer (we think). Maybe when she saw that computer, she became self-aware and all of her memories came flooding back.
Thinking back earlier, when Ragatha first got glitched, she had an internal dilemma of saving her new friend, or surviving without a hitch. She left quickly, choosing herself.
Perhaps it’s because she has a mission to carry out?
The scene at the end is symbolic of the Last Supper in Christianity. Pomni is in the center where Christ would have sat. Christ knew that he had a mission to carry out, and now Pomni does too.
The question is her creepy smile.
Is she smiling at the chaos that will ensue?
Or has she finally realized that’s she’s stuck for good and has no way out?
There is more past the void, which is why Caine does not want them to go out there.
Caine is seen in a restaraunt with bubble, one that was not shown during his tour of the grounds.
He’s surrounded by the wooden pose dolls.
As soon as he gets an alert on his watch, he teleports to grab Pomni almost immediately.
He does a shitty infomercial about his watch, complete with pop-up information. Maybe this was for comedic effect, or maybe he did it to let her get a good look of what she wasn’t supposed to see?
Caine lies about the exit, and does everything in his power to keep the six of them stuck in the circus (always keeping an eye on them, alerts to their movement, etc.)
Jax knows more than he leads us to believe
I mean obviously
It’s always the most cocky ones that have the darkest secrets
He’s obviously been in the circus for a while, for he has a great understanding of the lay of the land.
He’s calm when the Gloink queen materializes, and even calmer when the abstracted Kaufmo comes to kick the shit out of it.
Maybe Jax was some kind of caretaker in his real life and is trying to keep everyone calm by putting up a facade of some sort?
“Ladies first? Wait, no, why am I saying that?”
Zooble asks where Pomni is since the mission is for her, Jax shuts them down immediately, giving the excuse of “I can’t hear the escalator.”
That’s probably just for comedy and his cockiness, but what if Jax knew that something was happening with Pomni?
Spy on the inside??
When he pairs up Kinger and Gangle, he claims they’re the two most “mentally stable”. Is this because he’s seen Kinger’s premonition? Or perhaps he’s seen Kinger do this exact mission once in the past..?
I think the seven (including Kaufmo) represent the seven deadly sins.
Okay I’m still trying to piece this one together and I may be cooking nothing BUT LEMME COOK
Oh my god this is so farfetched I love it.
Pride will have to be Kinger/Ragatha. No idea which yet.
Gluttony will also have to be Kinger/Ragatha. No idea which yet.
Lust is DEFINITELY Jax. Not for sexual reasons, but for the fact that he is trying to cause mayhem at any given minute. He strives off of being as unbearably annoying as possible.
Envy may be Gangle. She’s stuck in a perpetual sadness, with her comedy mask being broken every time. Her emotions depend on her mask, and maybe she longs to have
Maybe Kaufmo is wrath? Not sure if it was to protect his friends, but homie was SWINGING on that Gloink. When Gangle questioned, Jax said “Calm down, that’s just Kaufmo, it’ll be alright.”
Sloth is Zooble, with no desire to take part in the activities.
Greed will maybe be Pomni. With all of my previous Schpeels about her, she is very focused on number one. She abandons Ragatha out of “fear”, and she kept trying to exit even though she knows she can’t.
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Okay wow that was long- GIVE ME YOUR PREDICTIONS OR EXPANSIONS OF OURS IN THE COMMENTS OR REBLOGS!!!
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galactiquest · 1 year ago
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Hi call me blueberry anon or just blue!
I was hopin to ask with Vash and Knives with an Angel!reader g/n.
Like you know when Vash and Knives show their true selves and reader dont give a shit because they literally have giant ass wings and multiple eyes yknow like one of those biblical accurate angel but more human.
If its too specific just ignore this JDJKDKDKDK (ps when i said show their true selves i immediately thought of those wolf alpha vids on tiktok)
Hello Blueberry Anon~ I'm sorry that this took longer than usual to get to, I promise I wasn't ignoring or forgetting this request! College woes... (´Д`)
I think this is a super cute idea and I'm always a sucker for a chaotic angel or devil or any sort of creature really. (Probably why I enjoy writing about Vash and Knives being little beasts so much LOL)
Vash and Knives x Angel!Reader: Heaven
Content warnings: None, but the descriptions of multiple eyes/wings might be offputting to some. Otherwise just fluff!
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Vash
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I take Vash as someone who's really accepting of everyone else's differences--even to the point where he'll feel a sort of disdain towards his own differences because of it.
But when he learns about your otherworldly nature? He's immediately curious. He really can't help himself.
He wants to ask a lot of questions. How do you hide your wings? Are humans afraid of you? Do you have any sorts of powers? Does this mean you're immortal--wait, are you here on a mission?!
Whether you indulge him or not in answers is up to you. He won't pry (but he might whine a little if you tell him it's a secret).
Now that he knows you're different, he wants to embrace it as much as possible. He's always trying to compliment how soft your wings are, how radiant and sparkling your eyes are, etc.
I think this especially goes for the '98 iteration of Vash--the "did it hurt when you fell from Heaven" pickup line. Feel free to respond with "yeah, actually, a lot" to get him sputtering and scrambling to apologize.
Knives
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When you explain it to him, he's very quiet at first, running all possible responses through his head. What he doesn't say (but is thinking) is that he's thankful you're not human (because admitting he loves a human is an utterly impossible feat!).
He also hopes, deep down, that since you're inhuman, you might better understand his intentions for a world without humans. (Of course, if you're the kind of angel who's sent to help humans, this goes against your direct orders... cue troubles!)
He has a deep respect for your otherworldly self, being not of the planet himself, so he takes a lot of time to study and understand you to the fullest.
He's especially intrigued if you have repeating features--multiple eyes, pairs of wings, floating motes of flame, spinning golden rings, that kind of stuff. He really enjoys symmetry and repetition. (Vash does, too, but he'll appreciate from afar.)
He encourages you to take your "natural" form more often, rather than sculpting yourself into a more humanoid form. If this more "natural" form is imperceptible/cosmically incomprehensible to him, he won't mind. (Okay, he might be a little sad if he can't see you in all your blazing glory, but he won't make it obvious.)
I think there's definitely a case here for a "fallen angel" type deal--you've fallen from the sins of humanity, and now you've joined up with Knives in order to restore what should have been. Or maybe you find more worth in each other...
End notes: I finished this up on mobile so the formatting might be off. I promise I'll fix it tomorrow!
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ner5y · 9 months ago
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MY FUCKING GOD HOW I LOVE FIRST PART OF EXECUTION
I LOVE YOUR STYLE AND I SEE HOW MUCH WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS ITS SO BEAUTIFUL AND DETAILED
I ALWSO LOVE HOW YOU MADE FOR MAIN ELITE DIFRENT THRONES ITS SO NICE DETAIL
SEEING ME UP THERE LITERARY MADE MY DAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTUNG ME THERE
Alwsi sorry for screaming im yast so in nice mood after reading this ^^
Thank you!!
I put a decent amount of thought into the throne's designs!
In this essay I will-
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Hootbons was the most difficult to design. Good thing I started with her's first!
Since her OC maple is a rubberhose cartoon, I went with a 20s technology theme. The 20s were a time of great technological advancement. Radio, Television, even Vaccum cleaners!
Just cluttering a bunch of 20s technology together didn't look very good, though, so I added maple tree branches along with animation themed items like pencils and animation cels.
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Mushy's is just a slightly redesigned version of her throne from her execution. I added a few more mushroom types for variety.
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Dia's was easy. It's just his crown as a throne.
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Since I found 0104-vkta from her human Gangle art, That's what I based her throne on! You'll see a combination of the happy and sad masks in the middle.
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Loxely's was also simple, she's a flower. I made her throne a flower.
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Goose's is supposed to be a goose feather, but I looked up references for duck feathers instead for some reason. (also, I just drew generic bird feet instead of goose feet??)
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since Rabid is a jester with a clown nose (a mix of a medieval form of entertainment and the more modern concept of a circus clown), I decided to mix a medieval throne with props you'd find in a circus!
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Burrotello's throne was made reaalllly late in the game, when I had already finished most of the sketches for part one, but I felt bad not including her since she was the only new member of our discord at the time.
I went with a gothic theme for her's. I don't think her clothes can really be considered goth, but that's what I went for. Maybe it's the earrings.
You'll also notice that, unlike the others, she doesn't have anything on the backrest! I forgot it 😭 (this design element is an important theme.)
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Edit:
Just realised I forgot to include Ark-fork!
Her's was pretty simple, it's just a throne made of bones. There wasn't really any planning for this one!
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Okay, so the backrests! Each of the thrones have a circular element in that area (except for Burrotello because I forgot, and Dia's and Mushy's aren't really circular, but you get it). They are meant to represent halos. If you look at the backgrounds, you'll see eyes on the balcony of the elite's seating section:
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And, it's not very visible since the large thrones are covering it up, but there are wings on the back wall behind the elites.
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Multiple eyes and wings are commonly attributed to biblically accurate angels
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The elites sit high above everyone else, surrounded by angelic imagery with "halos" behind their heads. It is a very clear show of their hubris, of their willigness to play god not only with their AUS, but with their own audience, deciding who lives or dies by the wave of a hand (i.e. executions).
When I describe "the elites" here, I am specifically referring to how they are portrayed as characters in my comic. This is not a comment on the real people behind these sonas.
If you read all of that, thanks! I put a lot of work into this comic, so i appreciate people taking interest in my process!
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bern-the-bridge · 10 months ago
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Emily Might Have Bitten Off More Than She Can Chew
(Hazbin Hotel Spoilers)
Do I know in depth lore about Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss? No. However, I have a degree in creative writing, I’ve seen an unhealthy amount of animated shows, and I’ve analyzed every frame of You Didn’t Know roughly a jillion times. So, I think I’m qualified to share my observations.
So from what I’ve seen from the fandom, a lot of people are already pointing their fingers to Sera and blaming her for letting the executions happen, which is valid. However, like she said, there’s a lot that we don’t know.
First of all, let’s take a look at the character designs for Sera’s and Emily’s partial angelic and pure angelic forms.
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So one obvious change is how they both have more eyes. Yes, multiple eyes are a reference to the appearance of biblically accurate angels, however it’s more than that. Sera and Emily introduce themselves while in their pure angelic forms before transforming into their humanoid forms. And like demons, later in the episode they only transform into their partial angelic forms when they feel strong emotions, mostly anger. And they specifically transform after it’s revealed that angels are actively executing demons.
When she finds out about this, Emily’s eyes are literally opened. She now gets a glimpse at the false utopian society they had built.
But Sera clearly has more eyes than Emily, indicating her higher ranking among the seraphims and her age. But it’s also an implication that she knows much more than she lets on. Emily might have gotten a taste of the brutal reality they live in, but Sera is much more aware of the situation, and there’s a lot that she’s purposefully hiding from her.
Sera also has eyes all over her body, which could be a suggestion that she is all seeing. However, while she does have eyes all over her body, they all face the same general direction. From the frames we’ve seen at least, there are no eyes behind her or on her sides. So she might believe that she is all seeing, but even she has blindspots and instead tunnel visions on her own priorities. And because all of eyes face forward, she only focuses on what’s in front of her, her people.
Furthermore, while Emily only has her eyes opened after she discovers the truth, Sera already knew about the exterminations. Which means when she transformed into her humanoid form, especially in front of demons, she’s quite literally turning a blind eye to them.
Then of course, there’s the scene wherein they sing You Didn’t Know.
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From what I’ve seen, when most people analyze Sera, they reference the first image. We can see the fires of hell reflected in Sera’s eyes, which is an image usually used to show a villain watching the evil they have wrought. However, this can also be seen as a symbol of the distance Sera has placed in between herself and the exterminations. The actual image of the flames are contained in the eyes of her humanoid form, which downplays the severity. Yet her predominantly white color scheme becomes tainted with red, meaning she could be oblivious to how corrupt she’s become. But what actually intrigues me about this frame is that Sera isn’t looking at the scene in hell. She’s looking at Emily. All of the destruction she’s caused, she did so for Emily and her people.
And what I don’t see enough people talking about is the second image, because how it’s framed is also normally used for villains. After the first time Emily looks at the scene, she doesn’t really look at it again. She instead looks at Sera or Charlie or the other angels. She literally has her back turned to the atrocities in hell, which can mean a handful of things.
It could just be a way of portraying her ignorance. Because Sera kept secrets from her and because Emily never thought to question their system, she wasn’t able to try and help sooner. However, it could also be a hint about what could happen next.
I think Emily is gonna mess up somehow by trying to stop the exterminations. Like Sera, even when she grows more eyes in her partial angelic and pure angelic forms, Emily’s eyes all still face the same general direction. In fact, if you look closely, they seem to be even more fixed towards one point than Sera. Her extra eyes are always concentrating on what her humanoid eyes are looking at. Maybe Emily will be so fixated on saving the demons that she neglects her duties as a seraphim. Maybe she gets blindsided by whatever Sera’s withholding from her because she can’t see the bigger picture. Maybe she ends up doing more harm than good. Maybe something bad happens and it winds up being her fault.
Finally, there are blatant parallels between Emily and Charlie. While fans love to compare them, they tend to forget how much more naive Emily is than Charlie. And remember what Charlie does back in Episode Four: Masquerade? While attempting to help Angel Dust, her actions lead to setting the studio aflame and she indirectly hurts Angel. And it’s fascinating to me how a story set primarily in hell only has two significant scenes that predominantly shows fire, the scene wherein Charlie causes one, and the scene wherein Emily witnesses the angels cause them. So perhaps Emily and Charlie’s similarities won’t stop there, and Emily will wind up making some big mistakes with the best intentions.
All of this to say, I can’t wait to watch the last two episodes later, I’m withholding judgement on Sera until we learn more about whatever secrets she has, and I predict Emily will accidentally cause a huge mess.
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alchemicaladarna · 9 months ago
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I have this headcanon that the eggs have this ability where over time, they gain certain traits- physical or personality wise from their parents. If you consider Pomme's parents though, well-
So my girl has an eldritch entity, a duck hybrid, a sentient intergalactic cucumber, an undead robot, a fallen angel turned demon, and Kameto as her parents, and you're telling me she's not at least a little bit on the biblically accurate eldritch horror side of the cryptid scale??
So here's my personal HC: I think Pomme doesn't physically look like any of her parents. Personality, yes. French, yes. Physical looks, far from it.
However, nost people don't end up seeing/realizing that, Pomme did inherit all her parents' physical traits- it's just very well-hidden.
Whenever Pomme feels a lot of strong, especially negative emotion, she transforms from a small dragonling, to a demonic looking/heavenly figure.
Her skin becomes like a void, and you can see stars in them. So her body is like an inky midnight sky full of stars.
Pomme's eyes become completely white and start glowing.
Other eyes appear on one side of her face.
Her horns are more prominent and become longer.
Multiple wings sprout from her back, and her arms and legs are just covered in feathers.
She completely affects the surrounding environment. Especially electricity. Like, lights would begin to flicker, machines would go haywire, etc.
Basically Pomme as a monochrome biblically accurate void who is also really op and a glowstick.
Only Richas ever saw Pomme's full form- when ElQ kidnapped Dapper and Pomme was so angry, she was demanding Richas to let her go, despite being told to just stay and wait in Richas' room.
This form was beginning to appear in her anger, but only a little bit when Dapper was kidnapped again, and qBad was trapped in prison, and the feds did jack shit to help them.
I wanted to draw this, but I'm way too sleepy right now XD. More people need to talk about Eldritch horror Pomme though. So much potential.
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fablefaye · 1 year ago
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so I was just thinking and I find it funny how watcher Grian designs have changed over the years. I don’t know if there was anything big in the beginning but after a while (and when the ATUS fanfic gained popularity) Watcher Grian was often drawn with (maybe multiple) wings and a mask and a cloak or robe or something. Then over time some people dropped the mask or changed it. And we we just gave him a billion eyes over time he kinda turned into a biblically accurate angel.
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teecupangel · 1 year ago
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Was at work when I had a funny thought, what if Altaïr was corned by templars somewhere no one can see them and just when they were going to kill him a bright flash appears and suddenly Altaïr turns into an Angel, but not the beautiful ones dear no! He turns into the biblically accurate angels so all the templars are scared and confused on what to do because this is an Angel! ...On the other hand he is also an Assassin who they were just about to kill so yeah...
Not sure if he can turn back willingly or something has to happen first but one things certain is people are probably going to find the Angel so they can hear his message or something similar
Altaïr…
Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad…
Altaïr “I long for the day when men will turn away from invisible monsters and once more embrace a more rational view of the world” Ibn-La'Ahad…
Altaïr: the only Assassin that is pretty much confirmed as an atheist…
Gets transformed into a biblically accurate angel…
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Oh my god, nonny.
I love you and this ask soooo much.
This is the kind of fuckery I am 100% behind with.
I mean, if we make this an Altaïr that has already written this part in the Codex:
I long for the day when men will turn away from invisible monsters and once more embrace a more rational view of the world. But these new religions are so convenient—and promise such terrible punishment should one reject them—I worry that fear shall keep us stuck to what is surely the greatest lie ever told. (Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad's Codex, pg 20)
Which cements him as an atheist by this point in his life…
I’m just imagining how annoyed Altaïr would be because of this.
And! He’d still be stubborn enough to try and explain this without admitting that this was divine intervention in the veins of “can’t say I don’t exist now, can you, bitch?” and be like “No! You don’t exist. This is the power of the Apple!”
Which he might not be totally wrong, all things considered.
Like, if we go for the idea that this is an older Altaïr, that part in the Codex (page 20) is written before page 24 which has this line:
Some day I will have a child—such is the way of our Order.
BUT this after page 16 which talks about the Apple then we can safely assume that page 20 was written after he got the Apple and was able to study it BUT before he had a child.
Which meant this is an Altaïr who is still in the middle of his unpaid vacation leave, on a road trip with Maria so this could be after Maria and Altaïr had a debate about the existence of a divine being and they’re so annoyed with each other’s stubbornness that they took a break by walking out and that’s how Altaïr gets into trouble.
Oh god.
Just imagine Maria seeing him in that form, the grin on her face and Altaïr’s multitude of voices just going “Don’t. Say. Anything.”
Back in the Gray:
“………… Oh.”
“What’s up?”
“………”
“Use your words, Reader. We talked about this.”
“I… may have accidentally… connected with Altaïr.”
“That’s a good thing?”
“And transformed him into an angel.”
“Okay… hey, man, I’m not gonna jud- WHAT THE HELL IS THAT???”
“… A… biblically accurate angel?”
“Oh my god. Why does it have so many eyes. Jeeesssuusss.”
(I headcanon that Altaïr’s angel form is the multiple wings with eyes on the feathers type to show his desire to know things as his form of knowledge is usually thru the eyes via books and his Eagle Vision but feel free to choose whichever biblically accurate angel you’d like. :))
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