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Refraction Railway Line #5 Abnormalities Part 2 (Analysis)

It's so much fun leaving reality behind

“I bet that fellow had their beloved. Yup, I'm talking about the one whose head I just blew up. They might have remembered what I don't. That makes this just too exhilarating. Killing people who remember their loved ones, I mean.” - Abnormality Encounter.

So, Der Freischütz, or The Freeshooter. Everyone knows the tale by now, right? A classical “Deal with the Devil” type of story where a hunter or gunner procures magical bullets through less than orthodox methods, such as black magic or from the Devil himself. The Lobotomy Corporation Abnormality, Der Freischütz, conserves the most important plot point while putting its own spin on the story, for what tale is a better symbol of the City than the one that speaks about the true price of its so-called “pragmatism”? When the only thing you are seeking is results, the true price isn’t someone else—it is your own heart.

“My beloved, huh…. Did I ever have people I held that dearly? I couldn't be sure anymore.” - Abnormality Encounter.

Der Fluchschütze’s story is very much the same: the Devil appeared to “him” one day and offered it a weapon that will always hit its targets but whose last shell will blow up the heads of the Shooter’s loved ones. Instead of killing them like its LC counterpart did, however, Fluchschütze simply decided to forget them so as to not cause them harm, obscuring and forsaking the reason it joined the war in the first place.

Yet, that very aptitude sets this “Aberration” from Freischütz, for it puts it in a context we all know pretty well: the (Smoke) War. In such a situation, how does one survive? How does one carry on despite all the committed atrocities and slaughters beyond simply drowning in the pleasure of violence? At that point, any anger directed at it or desperate attempt at surviving just are part of the show the Abnormality enjoys, especially because it doesn’t have to move from its pleasant position.

“Now that I think about it, this bastard went for the closest one to him first when choosing his target.” - Heathcliff, Abnormality’s Observation Log #3

Quite the opportunistic individual, right? The “Designated Target” and “Summon Target” passives further show how Fluchschütze always goes for the weakest link as it comfortably lies at the back of the formation. “Rear Line Fire” and “Front Line Fire” keep the joke running thanks to the affinities, as it truly hates going into the front lines despite shotguns being made for that exact niche. Though, that doesn’t mean it’s bad at melee combat, as the remaining passives hint at how nasty the Abnormality can get at “close quarters” if it already gathered Poise and thus momentum.

So a machine of war and violence. That’s what Abnormality is in every sense, how it presents and thinks of itself. The summons it invokes and kills without a second thought? Its Pride skills that never miss? Its gloating about blowing up the heads of “those who remember”? They are all expressions of Fluchschütze's tale: the devil who only looks back when its magic bullets somehow miss (see “Targeting Settings” status) or it is forced to retreat (“See Through Defense” is Gloom for a reason).

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Okay, let’s be honest: who actually believes that story? A demon whose bullets always hit? Laughing and reveling in death? C’mon, that’s like a shady wagon with a colorful “Free Candy” message written on it! It is like seeing Spiral of Contempt V2.0!

“'No! I don't want to remember them! I don't… I don't want to remember the ones I love!' 'Oh… please… stop smiling. I said, stop smiling!' 'Get away from me! Shut up!' The shooter pulls the trigger, his voice tainted by anguish… But the force behind the bullets had already become much weaker.” - Mid-Combat Event (Check passed).

The Abnormality is weak to both Pride and Gloom because, below its carefully crafted mask of arrogance, it only holds despair and regret over what the war and the Devil caused it to lose, a gaping wound in its heart that it refuses to treat as it blindly exposes it to everyone, fully convinced that it has forgotten it. Even in the beginning, when the Abnormality was first added to the game during Season 2, it was evident how fragile the bravado of the famed “bloodthirsty gunman” was when confronted with the truth, unable to keep on denying its miserable and visceral heart once you forced everything to fall into place.

The manner in which Fluchschütze presents itself is nothing but a way to cope with its new reality, the hellish war from which one can only escape through sweet death. But surprisingly, it doesn’t deny that; the Abnormality is well aware that it is better for your loved ones if you die as another victim (or innocent man, if possible)... According to its lines when you fail the “tell the shooter that you’re on its side” check, that is, with said option suspiciously having the Shooter’s weaknesses as Sin advantages.

The Shooter only forgives you because it thinks you are like it—that you are it, having the same despair and delicate hubris born from thinking your loved ones deserve better than a bloody murderer. Yet, that action itself is quite self-serving, isn’t it? Abandoning the ones it loves because it doesn’t want to confront their judgment, yet clinging to the shame that drives it to even worse atrocities. Its characteristic Pride then acquires a new light, doesn’t it? Der Fluchschütze likely didn’t forget its loved ones because of the Devil’s contract; it accepted the deal because it wanted to forget them. It was easier to find an excuse instead of confronting what it became in the first place, for a “bullet” to pierce its “head.”

“Oh-oh Round and round we go Holding on to pain Driven by our egos”

Oh, yea baby, it came back.

Heathcliff is no doubt the biggest example of this kind of tale: he refused to wait and listen to Catherine’s true feelings because he couldn’t think of himself as someone worthy of being loved, unconsciously believing he was a mere beast (or devil). Yi Sang fell into a similar abyss after getting rolled in N Corp., focusing entirely on the Mirror’s research instead of confronting Gubo because he thought his “wings” were crippled and could not find a home ever again.

“That is untrue. The one Gubo cares for the most… would be himself.” - Yi Sang, N Corp. Cubic Room I (Reminisced League of Nine), Canto IV.

The heart is a fickle thing. It’s completely understandable that, when hurt, it retreats into itself in order to heal. But such a strategy only works when paired with the promise of going out of the shell one day, ready to confront whatever judgement comes—frightful, severe judgment. In such a situation, wouldn't it just be simpler to forget that something ever happened? To be all by yourself without those voices that care for you, want you to be better, and you don’t want to hurt?

At the end of the day, the contract is really tempting: no matter what you do, you will finally be free of fear and anxiety to do as you wish. Just beware that the Devil, like you, will get what he wants.

The bullet is forever destined to pierce your loved ones, no matter the distance you put.

Nothing can be done by yearning for sympathy for myself

“This flower was once a rose that could have been tiny and beautiful. But now, the blood it holds gives off a cruel smell. Drinking and growing giant, it sucked in blood that overflowed from a spring. Without an end. It greedily gobbles up the stream of blood with its branched roots.” - Abnormality Encounter.

From my perspective, Drifting Fox, Sign of Roses, Headless Ichthys, and My Form Empties have been the densest Abnormalities I have analyzed up to now. And now, I’m delighted to put Four-Hundred Roses in that list as well, all thanks to its rich source material: Carmilla by Sheridan Le Fanu. While it’s possible to give an analysis without knowing the novel, the categorization of the Abnormality as a “Fairy Tale” one already discards the notion.

Pitifully, for as much as I wanted to read the book, my current schedule and studies didn't (and still doesn’t) allow me to do that. Instead, I listened to an audiobook I found on Youtube, since it was the easiest way to know the story and quickly understand it. So if you find some misconceptions about the facts of the novel, blame them on that.

And as a last thing before the analysis proper: Don’t take my comments about the character of Carmilla as if they were about her sexuality. I’m not speaking about that, but about her psychology and particular need for Laura.

Now… Where to begin? I suppose with the self-evident facts: Four-Hundred Roses is a very hungry plant, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that its stem and vines—the “lowest” body parts, devoid of any mental faculty—have all the Gluttony skills, incarnating the all-consuming need for blood proper of all vampire-like creatures. This is in contrast to the “flower’s” more ample emotional spectrum, varying from frustration at the inability to satisfy its hunger to a certain kind of reticence over its situation, longing for just blood and nothing else.

“It desires not to slay, nor does it to harm. That creature… it merely yearns for blood. I don’t suppose that flower was always such a beastly thing.” - Don Quixote, Abnormality’s Observation Log #1

Four-Hundred Roses’ seeming emotional instability is seen in many aspects of its battle, such as the recurring Mid-Combat Event and, more than anything, battle themes: Me Relinque and Ne Me Relinque, or in English, Leave Me and Do Not Leave Me, a solemn, almost funerary song that soon becomes a frenetic tango-like melody when the Abnormality loses its “sweetness” and succumbs to its hunger. And as Reddit user chairamel pointed out months ago, such a behavior may have its origin in a small excerpt of Carmilla, near the end:

“The vampire is prone to be fascinated with an engrossing vehemence, resembling the passion of love, by particular persons. [...] In these cases it seems to yearn for something like sympathy and consent. In ordinary ones it goes direct to its object, overpowers with violence, and strangles and exhausts often at a single feast.” - Chapter XVI: Conclusion.

Furthermore, at the beginning of the novel, Carmilla’s “mother” described her as a nervous and chronically ill girl, which was enough for Laura, her father, and their entourage to gloss over the vampire’s strange behavior. Considering how Carmilla killed Bertha and moved on without waiting, quickly going for Laura, it is obvious her “nervousness” was just another excuse to gather sympathy and compassion for herself, a pat on her back not unlike Four-Hundred Roses’ attitude when it silently pleads for the Sinners’ blood, driven by its Endless Yearning—and God have mercy if you refuse to give any.

At this point, it should be obvious that Abnormality is Carmilla’s analogue here. It imitates her character perfectly, how their shallow charm serves only to hide the true core of their existence, as marked by the complete absence of any other Sin affinity beyond Lust and Gluttony (and Wrath, but I already touched on that). Even Four-Hundred Roses’ resistances mirror that, since it doesn’t have any weakness or resistance at all: it simply doesn’t care what others think about it, just like Carmilla herself.

“You will think me cruel, very selfish, but love is always selfish; the more ardent the more selfish. [...] You must come with me, loving me, to death; or else hate me and still come with me, and hating me through death and after. There is no such word as indifference in my apathetic nature.” - Carmilla, Chapter VI: A Very Strange Agony.

Anything and everything was “received” by Mircalla, as long as it came from Laura—but so it had been with Bertha as well. Choosing them from childhood, stalking their families (see her strategy with Spielsdorf), and delaying the deed for as long as she could… Carmilla is a monster that didn’t doubt in killing dozens of women to satisfy her thirst, both in the story and previous to it, so why? Why did she put so much work into those 2 girls and the countless that came before them? The answer, thankfully, lies in the figure that Laura represented to both her father and Carmilla: the Kore, the innocent and helpless maiden who holds a “magical” (i.e., non-existent beyond the projection itself) allurement over people.

Needless to say, Laura is anything but a Kore; she’s just a plain, naive, and isolated teenager whose sole parent couldn’t bring himself to “release” her (until the last chapter, with their tour through Italy) but tried to coddle her with anything she wished for. In that sense, inside Laura remained a primitive something, a certain level of innocence connected to nature itself, which proved irresistible to the undead, who, by definition, lives apart from nature, alienated from her very soul and the touch of divinity. The same applies to Bertha and her uncle, who lived “lonely evenings at home.”

“The ‘Kore’ has her psychological counterpart in those archetypes which I have called the self or supraordinate personality on the one hand, and the anima on the other.” - Carl Jung, Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious.

Yes, Jung is at it again.

Thus, from a psychoanalytic point of view, Laura lived the tragedy of being an image-bearer to those close to her, someone by whom they felt psychologically fulfilled. Curiously, this feminine duality is also seen at some level in the Divine Comedy through Beatrice, as she is Dante’s Anima (contrasexual psychic archetype) and a Christ-like figure, with Christ naturally being a symbol of the Self, the whole nature of man that embraces nature and divinity. And what does Christ offer?

“Jesus replied, ‘Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.’” - John 3:3.

Rebirth. Resurrection. Rest for the spirit and redemption—such a thing is what Mircalla, through her constant choosing of girls like Bertha and Laura, wanted to achieve. Yet, baptism is union with God and thus nature, which, as I wrote, is antithetical to vampires: they cling to life with everything they have, despite death being a needed part of it. Even Carmilla knew that, as she proclaimed that “everyone must die; and all are happier when they do” during her fit when listening to and watching the funerary procession, and people are generally more honest with their thoughts when they are driven by their emotions.

Furthermore, there’s that scene near the end in which the group of men opened the tomb of Mircalla and found her body floating in a “pool” of blood at least 7 inches deep. Considering that blood is the gross version of water, the baptism imagery becomes obvious, as well as Mircalla’s desire to die and be reborn through Laura’s “warm life” (as the poor girl dies for the vampire’s, of course). More important, however, is how this is reflected in the Four-Hundred Roses and its Mirror Dungeon Encounter.

(The transformation from “Millarca,” Bertha’s assassin, to “Carmilla”).

The “Plug the spring” option is easy to understand, as it falls into the unstable behavior of the Abnormality (just like the “Bloodthirsty Stench” passive), so I’ll skip it. The other 2 are much more interesting due to their EGO gifts: feeding it the Sinners’ blood causes it to bloom into Millarca, a healthy-looking rose, likely due to how hydrated the Abnormality is; meanwhile, breaking the spring’s entryway causes Four-Hundred Roses to submerge and drown in the blood, to be reborn in Camilla, a… withered, pale, and ugly rose—a far cry from the “tiny and beautiful” thing it was in the past.

Baptism is rebirth. It should have redeemed the Abnormality. So what went wrong? To be precise, absolutely nothing. The blood baptism showed who Four-Hundred Roses truly is and the course it should follow. But just as Mircalla was unable to give up on life and thus clung to the innocence of certain kinds of girls, “Carmilla” is unable to give up on its primitive desire for life, wishing by all means to recover its lost vitality instead of living with things as they are (see the EGO gift’s effect of draining the enemies’ HP). Basically, both entities refused to confront their desires, abandoning the idea of conquering their lives so they could/can “live” them through others, wanting their pity, acceptance, and “you did your best.” It’s not a coincidence that the section of Canto VII’s dungeon where you fight the corroded Bloodbags, Bloodfiends, and Fixers is called “An Internment For Those Who Could Not Abandon Their Desire.”

In many of my previous posts, I have commented that roses are a symbol of individuality in Project Moon’s work, and this case isn’t different: The “Four Hundred” of the Abnormality’s name comes from the countless identities and shapes it has acquired through being “reborn,” similar to Mircalla’s amassing of “baptismal” names… Buuut, just as the vampire’s identities were always tied to her original one, the Abnormality’s nature is always the same, no matter what it does. “A rose by any other name would smell as sweet,” right?

Fundamentally speaking, then, Four-Hundred Roses longs for life more than anything else, with blood being a symbol for it in the same way it is for Bloodfiends. It wishes to gorge itself in the ecstasy of nature—of the sun, air, and vitalizing waters—and feel in touch with it, finally happy and content with itself once more, not tied to the pity of others. Yet, blood is not only life but connection as well, therefore binding the Abnormality forever to said others, not unlike Mircalla’s search for redemption through innocent girls, the “children” who are life and nature embodied. And unfortunately for them, there’s only 1 answer for their “moral” conundrum of knowing the harm they have to cause to keep “living”:

“If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give up your life for me, you will find it.” - Matthew 10:39

To be alive is to follow life’s journey, its becoming and decaying. It is impossible to return to that state of innocence and freedom, filled with childlike wonder at every step. If you try, you will be forever smothered by feelings of shame and inadequacy, for you are refusing to follow what life prepared for you—you are stunting your own progress! Thus, the only path forward is to accept and live that fearsome descent instead of just acknowledging it from a distance like Mircalla did during the procession.

Now, what I wrote above surely must sound cruel when applied to the Bloodfiends, but there is no other option if they want to be truly happy with their existences and move beyond the desperate hunger and self-pity that is so common across their kin. To do such a thing—to sacrifice one’s desires in order to change—is no easy task, yes, though not impossible, as Don Quixote and Sancho demonstrated. After all, victories are very much like life, right? They never come easily and thus don’t have a place for lamenting one’s lot beyond mere venting.

As always, you are free to make a choice at the end: you can live your life, become weary and marred as everyone else, or you can take it from others, never owning it and forever dependent. Either way, remember: no matter the time it takes and the devils that may appear during the journey, one’s Self will remain the same.

I know successful or not, I am who I am

Finally, the last part of Railway 5! And just for Resurrection Sunda to boot! Well, at least to me and my country; different timezones and all. Still, a curious thing considering the themes Four-Hundred Roses touches upon, and speaking about it... Yeah, it's the only one I have something to comment xD Fluchschütze is quite straightforward with its meaning.

Now, I'm aware that 400 Roses' section is more like a weird analysis of Carmilla. I won't deny that. But I was forced to do it because, well, that's the point of the Abnormality: it's Carmila/Mircalla through and through, and I just simply could not do a psychoanalytic reading considering the nature of all the other rose-related Abnormalities. Besides, there's a little detail that I want to highlight as well:

"This corresponds to the psychological fact that the anima always stands in the relationship of a daughter to the wise old man" - Carl Jung, Symbols of Transformation.

While Bertha and Laura aren't an Anima-figure for Mircalla, they fulfill the role with their respective guardians, don't they? A curious coincidence, but interesting nonetheless.

In similar questionable conclusions, I only have a few theories about why Project Moon choose the "400" number for the name:

At the beginning of the novel, Laura said that 800 or 900 pounds do wonders in Styria, so by halving the quantity PM is possibly saying that whatever the Abnormality does isn’t enough.

There are approximately 200 years of separation between Mircalla’s approximate death and the story proper. So maybe the “400” is a reference to how many names Mircalla acquired (2 per year?).

Finally, according to Hebrew gematria, the letter Tau (ת) has a value of 400, with the letter being commonly associated by western mysticism to the maiden figure (see Aleister Crowley’s comments about the Universe/World card).

None of them really convinces me, so if you have any idea, feel free to comment it!

Now, moving into something more likely, during the write-up I thought how Meursault related to the Abnormality, and I remember Nagel und Hammer's Singularity: canned experiences extracted through Nails, which are reminiscent of thorns. Maybe during his search for "life's joys," our dear Frenchman used (or even abused) them.

And that basically concludes my observations about the post as such, since the rest of things (i.e., the passives) don't really need an explanation. Even Don's relation to Abnormality should be somewhat obvious already. But I still need to comment something that, pitifully, is bad: I won't be able to analyze the non-RR Abnormalities (and the RR6 Abnos too) anytime soon due to my schedule, especially thanks to my practical subjects and soon-to-be internship next semester. That doesn't mean I won't do them, just that they will be on hold due to university.

So with that said... the usual disclaimers: feel free to comment your own interpretation about Abnormalities and to point out spelling mistakes! Until the next post!

#limbus company #refraction railway #refraction railway 5 #canto 7 spoilers #canto vii spoilers #abnormalities #der fluchschütze #Four-Hundred Roses

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melliae · 28 days ago

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quite a piece, isn’t it?

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melliae · 2 months ago

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I don't think this is talked about enough tbh. What do you mean Aigis went to the moon.

#what the actual fuck #in what drugs was hashino

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melliae · 2 months ago

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I need more people to write Aigis and Ryoji as friends, post-game or in some canon divergence au. They are made to be opposing forces, to clash for the fate of the world, but the purpose designated for them by their creators is not the purpose they chose to follow. They become friends in both because and in spite of what they are, because who would better understand their struggles? Neither is truly human, but they are both people. People who doubt their own humanity. They validate each other's struggles in a way no one else could, before affirming that yes, you are a person, you worked so very hard to be a person and I recognize that struggle and say that it is ok if you don't understand all the nuances of humanity right away, I won't judge you, because I am the exact same way.

Yes, Aigis initially saw Ryoji as dangerous, and he was, but I want them to grow past that. I want them to be able to look back at their first clash and think about how much they've grown since then. I want them to tell each other that the fact that they feel remorse for the lives lost is a clear sign of their newfound empathy for others, and that yes it's difficult, grappling with those feelings, but they should face them head on for the sake of those lost lives. I want them to come to see the other as one of their closest friends, the one they can turn to whenever they need.

Aigis and Ryoji should be friends, because they chose to be more than the enemies they were when they first met.

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melliae · 2 months ago

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Kind of Abstract P3 fic I want to promote once more (I don't know how to do it)

Sapphire (11,751 words) by Me.

Chapters: 3/3.

Fandom: ... Persona 3 (What did you hope for? It's on the title).

Rating: General Audiences.

Archive Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply.

Relationships: Arisato Minato & Original Character(s); Original Character(s) & Yuuki Makoto (Persona Series); Male Persona 3 Protagonist & Original Character(s).

Characters: Male Persona 3 Protagonist/Arisato Minato/Yuuki Makoto (Persona Series); Original Characters.

Additional Tags: Canon Compliant; Inspired by Jung; “Be Not Afraid” Moment; Not Beta Read; Religious Imagery & Symbolism.

The color of the first stone, of the glimmering sea, of the vast sky, of outer space, and of the one Star.

Makoto, unawarely, had always been surrounded by it. Swimming and breathing in it. Yet, only in these moments he began to realized why he could only live through and within it.

Don't expect too much of it. It's madness from beginning to end. Also, english isnt' my first language.

#persona 3 #persona 3 reload #persona 3 spoilers #makoto yuki #p3 protagonist #It's a clunky work #my first one #I completely forgot about announcing it here xD #I only mentioned it in a repost of the Universe post #Anyway enjoy the madness

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melliae · 2 months ago

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Refraction Railway Line #5 Abnormalities Part 1 (Analysis)

“Oh-oh Round and round we go Holding on to pain Driven by our egos”

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Wait, why do you mean that’s the wrong song? It has the “round and round we go” part and all!

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From the previous Canto you say? And what about this one?

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“Swaying on a horseback”? “Here we go another lap”? Isn’t that kind of the same thing?

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Well, no, I suppose they are not.

Life is all about cycles, eternal repetitions of experiences and principles that, even if they are new to you, have been experienced by humanity as a whole at some level. Some of them are dangerous and are better off broken; the Earnshaw family and Heathcliff are all about that, how some things must be left behind.

But if such a thing is true, then what makes Don’s “carrousel” different? Well, she has already answered it in the game itself, for the cycle that Sancho is walking is none other than the greatest and only adventure that has ever existed: life.

Yes, life is painful and horrible, but it also has its highs and pleasures, so marvelous and deep that they are taken as granted, the ideal that every moment must follow and with anything else being unacceptable. But that’s not true, because life’s sole standard is its wholeness that encompasses all without exception, with every other canon and rule being a mutilation of said wholeness, from which we have already seen some…

"Everyone has wishes. To deny them is to deny yourself."

“It must have reached this depth after burrowing and burrowing.”

Self-destructive self-acceptance, a (self-)hatred that spirals out of control when the world isn’t how one wants it, and the resignation to the thought that there was never any hope—all of them are cycles that must be broken, for they stagnate and try to homogenize life, conquering its uncertainty. But the wheel keeps on moving, crumbling any and all attempts of resisting. The only question is if you have enough strength to rise and fall as many times as life asks you.

Remember: life is a game, so don't spoil the fun!

Happy to just be part of your story

“You removed the nails from the teddy bear. Bloody pus pours out of the holes. Once the plush had finished its copious exudation, only a dark cavity remained within. It is an empty void.” - Abnormality Encounter (“Remove the Nails” option, check passed).

We all know Happy Teddy Bear, right? The teddy bear from Lobotomy Corporation that lived a happy life with its previous owner before being abandoned at the bottom of a drawer. Yes? Sweet, because just like Pink Shoes and Red Shoes, Hurting Teddy Bear is an “Aberration” of the original Teddy Bear… or, well, at least a deeply related Abnormality. Either way, the meaning of the 2 Teddy Bears is plain to see: the yearning to be looked at and loved once more.

“Why don't you try impaling yourself with it, then. Feel what it's like to have someone curse you…” - Sinclair (Hex Nail), EGO Awakening.

But while Happy Teddy Bear was abandoned after a placid life full of love, Hurting Teddy Bear didn’t have such “good luck.” Instead of serving its intended purpose, to receive and give love, the Teddy Bear was abused and mutilated by its owner with stakes and curses, as if it were no more than a wooden doll, an outlet for every ounce of malice and frustration. And yet, despite all the hurt and pain, the Abnormality clings to its given purpose with the little to nothing that remains in that inner void of his; its MD Encounter, Battle, and Log always make sure to point that out.

Strangely, despite all but 2 of Hurting Teddy Bear’s skills focusing on its desire to love and be loved, none of them are Lust. There’s no actual demonstration of pure love per se, just as there’s no weakness to Lust and passion. The skill that is closest to such a thing, according to Rodya (“It hugged me so tightly, but I felt so… comfy and warm.”), is “A Sad Embrace”, which is Gluttony-based and used only against those who the Abnormality thinks it has played enough with (negative effects > Faint Memories). Such a Sin affinity just further shows how completely empty is the Teddy Bear inside, “hungry” to constantly fulfill its role and experience the love it thinks it rightfully deserves.

“Most Sinners push me away, taken aback from the sudden awkwardness… … but the teddy bear impatiently stomps its feet, apparently jealous. Perhaps what it wanted was affection, after all?” - Abnormality Encounter (“Embrace the Sinners” option).

That explains its Pride resistance, though one should take care to not confuse it with vanity or haughtiness; the Teddy Bear just has enough sense of self to know what it is and for what it was created, and nothing will convince it otherwise. But on the other hand, all those curses and stakes aren’t for show either, as they have twisted the Abnormality’s “original” identity enough to make it develop Gloom and Envy skills. After all, only a word in which a teddy bear has been abused until the point of deformity, a skill called “Expression of Love” can be of Gloom affinity, inflicting only pain and pity instead of sharing actual love. Maybe that’s why it’s resistant to Gloom as well: it’s too empty inside to feel more pain.

By that matter, the Attachment status is a reflection of, well, the attachment the Teddy Bear has developed over the Sinners due to the constant “hugs” (i.e., attacks), explaining the Clash Power it gives to the attacker—a reflection of its desperate attempts at giving affection. And going by both the Logs and the previous quote, it shouldn’t be a surprise that the Abnormality can’t control itself for too long when all of its “favorite” people are within its claws’ reach, close enough to give them a big embrace that overflows with sorrow and nostalgia. Yet, I have to note that attachment is not actual love, but at most love mixed with anxiety, a sort of identification with the object that, in the Abnormality’s case, vanishes once its fear and pain are soothed through “affection.” That’s why “The Once-Loved Ones” passive is called that, because its fixation goes and comes as it pleases during the battle.

But if the growing attachment is correlated with Sinners “playing” along, what happens if they refuse to do so? Well, beyond hurting the Teddy Bear’s feelings because it can’t stand being rejected as per its weaknesses to Wrath and Envy, or overall bitterness and abuse, you are pissing it off too. And boy, “Rough Expression of Love” shows perfectly that it’s not spineless at all, ready to force its way to get what it wants.

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Oh, and you are also hurting the Sinners. Not physically, but mentally.

“Perhaps the nails looked too threatening. No one wanted to get close to the bear plush. It slumps its shoulders, clearly hurt. It's clear that most Sinners felt bad about this decision.” - Mid-Combat Event (“Look away” option).

In this regard, Hurting Teddy Bear is as much pity-inducing as Drifting Fox. In fact, we even get a call-back to it in the Log #3! But at any rate, that should explain the Lust advantages of both the previous Event and the Mirror Dungeon’s “remove the nails” option, with the other advantage of the latter (Gloom) standing for the same thing.

Compassion, sympathy, pity… the Abnormality really thrives on those emotions, doesn’t it? Even its second unique status, Faint Memories, plays into it somewhat because what can the Abnormality reminisce about besides its previous owner? After all, it’s the despair born from its past abuse and abandonment that impulses the Teddy Bear to embrace all the Sinners and to put itself together after finishing the “playing sessions,” as its “To Remember” passive indicates. Such an attitude certainly goes hand-in-hand with its Sloth skills and maybe even its envious expression of love, since timidity is the root of several cases of envy—”if I was braver,” “If I had the strength,” “if I could do something,” and other self-deprecating thoughts that cause one to live in a fantasyland instead of taking action.

(Yes, that’s why “Timid Expression of Love” is a clashable counter and why it consumes Attachment: the Sinner is the one taking the initiative here).

All in all, Hurting Teddy Bear is quite neurotic in its behavior, abruptly changing its usual timid and depressed behavior to an unrelenting anger when things don’t go its way, and from there to its previous shyness once more. Even if it gets satisfied, its own numbness and fear will push it to seek affection again, the craving and attachment getting worse throughout the fight until, inevitably, it wishes the love of everyone involved—but without any maliciousness, no, never. Even at its worst, the Teddy Bear takes care to not hurt (too much) its “playmates,” to control its strength and avoid making them “sick” with its curses and nails, though the real motive remains forever unknown: maybe it’s due to genuine concern for others, or maybe…

“My Family… has finally found true happiness. Because they have suffered far too long… they deserve this happiness, more so than anyone.” - Don Quixote, Abject Failure I (The Tale of a Great Fixer Who Once Reached for The Dream), Canto VII.

Because it won’t have anyone to play with anymore, completely alone and lacking the thing it longs for so much, that it thinks it deserves more than others. Faust, Rodya, Sinclair, the Manchengan Bloodfiends, and countless other people in the City… Whether “justified” or not, “deserved” or not, they all must be yearning to be looked at with love and pride, to be told that they did good and can finally be happy.

Past abuse and neglect do wonders for one's mind, don’t they?

Why is it that some were given the role of villain?

“I am on the hunt for someone. It needs to be taken care of urgently. What I am looking for is an apple that will become a princess, not knowing its rightful place. It must have passed this way. Do you know what direction it has taken?” - Abnormality Encounter.

For those who have read my post about Hong Lu, what I’ll say here should be obvious. For those who haven’t… It still should be obvious, because Rose Hunter enters in the same group as Blubbering Toad, Shock Centipede, or King in Bids, which is to say, its meaning is all too obvious: the mania and compulsion to carry out one’s “predefined” fate.

I originally compared Rose Hunter’s underlying meaning to Ananke, the Greek primordial goddess of necessity and fate. That's because, in some obscure myths like the Orphic ones, Ananke and Chronos hatched the cosmic egg from which the deity Phanes and the universe were born, which is just a mythical metaphor for how existence came to be through time and necessity. From there, I concluded that Rose Hunter is a “tautological templar,” whose entire ideology and thus existence is rooted in the idea of fulfilling its role according to… according to what, exactly? I said the Abnormality is tautological, so its likely answer, if asked, would be that such is its “tale,” but there must be something else there, as it presents one of the most important motifs in the entire game: roses.

Roses are a symbol of the mind and individuality in Limbus: everyone has 1, unique to them and only them. Yet, that doesn’t mean one is able to see it, let alone actualize it; sometimes, the individual is led astray by their desires and thoughts of what they should be, as with Sign of Roses, and the 2 Sinners that received Rose Hunter’s EGO show a bit of that inclination: Hong Lu and Faust, both of them eager (or maybe resigned) to fulfill the roles assigned to them. After all, just as the stars and time do not wait for anyone, the universe—that is, your own individuality—wasn’t born by doing nothing.

So, despite the Hunter having a rose as a head, it is all too susceptible to the false ideas of identity and duty, embodying the compulsion of the mind to fall for a concrete and fixed self, the idea that “you can’t be anything but.” In fact, one can go so far as to say its mania is a hunger for a purpose or role, since all of the Abnormality’s skills baptized with “Lasso” have Gluttony as an affinity, and what better way to represent the inevitability of fate than with a lasso? Even the Barbed Lasso status and enemies, which are representations of the snares that the Hunter throws at the Sinners (as the Logs explain and the “Spiker Whip” and “Barbed Lasso” passives hint), play with the idea of the fetters or ropes of destiny.

“With lightning fast reflexes, [Sinner] deflects the barbed lasso to the side. The lasso, deflected, flies in the other direction. The Rose Hunter hesitates, surprised by the turn of events.” - Mid-Combat Event (Check passed).

And with fate, the hubristic idea of rebelling against it comes along, and I don’t think I have to explain how it connects to the Pride advantage of the previous Event or the Abnormality’s weaknesses to Wrath and Pride. However, this logic may not apply that much to the rest of Sin affinities.

Beginning with the resistances to Gloom and Sloth, they are easy to understand thanks to Rose Hunter’s single-minded obsession that easily ignores the cries of its targets and potential distractions that can slow it (“Going too fast with tunnel vision might cause you to miss so many things.”). But its weakness to Lust… It’s complicated. While more often than not my definition of the Sin as love and/or desire for desire’s sake is enough, I think in this Abnormality’s case it goes more into the abstraction described by Hohenheim and Yi Sang in the Check-Up Intervallo:

“Hohenheim: The meaning of Peccatulum Luxuriae, 'Lust', is not exactly what it says on the tin. A more illustrative description would say that it is… ah, yes. An obsession to spread a fragment of what forms the self. A desire to propagate, to breed. Of course, there is more to this concept than just that. While the word itself may be subject to interpretations limited to the carnal understanding… Yi Sang: …To share one's knowledge, one's ideas, to invite others into gaining the understanding of a sliver of oneself… You seek to express that such things are 'Lust' as well.” - Chapter 9: Dulled Harpoon, LCB Regular Check-up.

Folktales, legends, and stories are some of the most important parts of a collective identity, or culture. Some knowledgeable people may call them the fundamental memes of human society, the DNA of the soul, and they wouldn’t be far off, for it’s through the sharing of stories (alongside other cultural elements such as cooking or art) that the individual can establish a common ground and communicate with others. Love can only be born by seeing the Self in that which is alien to the mind after all.

Following the above, the presence of Lust in Rose Hunter should be clearer: by forcing everyone to play their parts in their “tales,” the Hunter creates a common “language” that embraces everyone and gives them a place and time to “shine.” I wouldn’t be surprised if it thinks it’s doing a favor to the individual (or, well, Apple, in this case), believing that it’s better to follow the role assigned by “society” instead of living in fantasies that will never come to pass; the line of Faust’s EGO Awakening (“Be ensnared, for that is only right.”) seems to point to that, too. But if that’s true, then what stops the individual from doing the same, from ensnaring the Hunter and lovingly sharing your own “individual myth”?

“Such tale is your wish? Then I hope you have it within you to be responsible for your own words.” - Abnormality Encounter (“Point it in the wrong direction” option).

And we know that Rose Hunter, despite its obsession and almost moral panic for things to go their intended way, can be led astray from its original tale too. It’s just natural then that it’s weak to love and passion, to the unbridled emotion of departing into a genuine adventure, in a similar way to how the huntsman from Snow White was moved by the princess’ tears—with some adaptations heavily implying romantic feelings! All in all, It seems that the Hunter is destined to never finish its mission, all the way from its very source and inspiration.

Another thing I want to rescue from all this talk about Lust, love, and stories is a particular thing that Faust wrote in the Logs, about how the Abnormality prefers to target individuals with psychological instability such as Sinclair, who was on the verge of becoming part of N Corp.’s Inquisition under Kromer’s not-so-subtle manipulation. That goes to show just how encompassing Rose Hunter and its “tale” are, always lurking in the dark forest of life, ready to trap its targets and force them into their predefined role. But just like Kromer, once its “offer” (i.e., its lasso) is rejected, the Abnormality “rightfully” gets angry at those who disrupted the flow of things, with its Wrath-based “Strangling Crown of Thorns” fittingly being the sole skill that targets the Sinners with lower sanity.

“He kept throwing more and more lassos, and every time he did… he grew increasingly accurate. He even started throwing two lassos at the same time, without a single miss, too! Ah, but he had a hard time avoiding our attacks because he was so focused on throwing his lassos.” - Hong Lu, Abnormality’s Observation Log #3.

And obviously, the more the fight continues, the more desperate and flustered Rose Hunter becomes, as hinted by its “Interlocking Brambles” passive—focusing on offense only while ignoring defense completely. It makes its last skill, “Whip Wreath”, funnier thanks to its Sloth affinity, strengthening the idea of the Hunter thinking that anything but pursuing its targets, including defending itself, is a waste of time or the like.

To finish the analysis, it’s essential to go over its MD Encounter, for the options and their Sin advantages further show the big paradox of Rose Hunter: whether we are guided by jealousy and resentment over the Apple’s attempts to escape, a solid sense of self that refuses to follow the script, or just plain out envy for the clear direction the Abnormality has, the ending of the story of the Apple and the Hunter is ultimately decided by us and only us.

No matter what Rose Hunter professes, our fate and essence as individuals are no more than the reflections of our constantly shifting thoughts and feelings. If there’s a genuine self under all of those things, then one has to see the story of Sancho and Don Quixote to know its exact nature.

“Our adventure then… was full of amateurish mistakes and foolhardy confidence, but… [...] Those were the days when my heart beat more vibrantly than ever before.” - Sancho, La Manchaland, The Dreamer (The Tale of a Great Fixer Who Once Reached for The Dream), Canto VII.

There’s no bigger act of betrayal against the collective than to go against its expectations in order to follow one’s personal tale and individuality. And yet, the decision of what path to tread is solely our own, for the truth is that you aren’t what happens or happened to you, but what you choose to become.

Return them to the shelf 'cause now I understand

“The shadow in the skull was nothing but a lingering feeling. Resentment. Penance. All of it, to no avail. So it fades away in silence. All that remains is a hollow skull.” - Abnormality Encounter (“Watch” option).

Most Abnormalities are easy to understand, even if you have to exercise your brain a little to do it; Blubbering Toad, Shock Centipede, Ambling Pearl, and King in Binds are examples of that kind. But that means the remaining Abnormalities fall in the other extreme, being much more abstract and harder to understand, such as KQE-1j-23 or Skin Prophet. To both my luck and misfortune, Sleeping Bag… I don’t know where to put it.

I started its analysis with the thing that caught my attention the most: the Abnormality’s code, in particular its “type number” of 03. I don’t normally do that unless there’s a good reason for it, as was the case with KQE and its code identical to Nothing There’s. For Sleeping Bag, it was due to the rest of Abnormalities that have the same number, such as One Sin and Hundred of Good Deeds, WhiteNight, Skin Prophet, Blue Star, Fragment of the Universe, Spiral of Contempt, and Dimensional Refraction Variant—all of them heavily eldritch and “alien” even among Abnormalities. In comparison, Sleeping Bag feels... awfully common. It shocked me to a degree, especially because of how clearly Thoracalgia expressed Sleeping Bag’s meaning, which is the reason why the best place to begin the analysis is its EGO.

So, what exactly does “thoracalgia” mean? Chest or thoracic pain, essentially. It’s easy to see, considering that the most prominent features of the Abnormality are its giant skull and inhaler-shaped rib cage. Unironically, the design of choice tells us a lot about what exactly is happening with the Sleeping Bag. But first, I have to ask: is anyone reading this familiar with the concept of Nightmare? I’m not strictly speaking about the “bad dream” kind of nightmare but about the origin of the term itself.

(The Nightmare, by Henry Fuseli).

Originating from Northern Europe, the Nightmare is, as its name indicates and the painting shows, a type of nocturnal and malevolent spirit that sat on the chest of sleeping people, leading to bad dreams, suffocation, paralysis, and anxiety. They were the folk explanation for the phenomena of sleep paralysis and… nightmares, in particular their emotional and frightful aspects, with the last part of the name, “mare,” referencing them, as it’s derived from Proto-Indo-European “mer-,” meaning “to die.”

Needless to say, Nightmares are ominous as hell, and the entirety of Sleeping Bag is heavily reminiscent of them, even to its name. Besides, what term beyond “nightmare” fits with a shadowy figure that lies inside the chest of the Abnormality, described as a “[phantom] of resentment and penance”? After all, it’s not the “Person” who is crying tears of blood, angrily mauling in pain, or laboriously breathing in order to feel the pleasure of relief. The actual entity in pain is none other than the Skull itself, who, even devoid of all flesh and vitality it must have had once, continues to suffer from the crushing agony in its heart.

However, that doesn’t mean the nightmarish Person is unneeded, for the Skull would be no more than a pile of (supposedly silent) bones without it. That accumulation of pain and agony also doubles as the heart itself of the Abnormality, its animating spirit and the reason why it still lives despite its place being in a bygone “era.” It also explains a great deal about the Sin weaknesses: from the tender care that universally soothes the chronic pain to the excessive anger against one’s body, the desperate need to extirpate and throw away the heavy and inadequate heart, full of envy.

“The ‘air’ seemed to improve the poise of whomever breathed it in, enhancing the keenness of their attacks. This is when the shadow entity within the skull began to mobilize, attempting to steal the ‘air’ from all those who had it.” - Outis, Abnormality’s Observation Log #2.

Yes, that’s what the “Oxygen Saturated” passive represents: the Skull gets so high in oxygen that it has to liberate it, yet its heart wishes to have it back. “That’s… MINE!” also plays in this due to its Envy affinity and capacity to siphon Poise from the Sinners. But more important are the animation itself and the fact that only the Body part can use the Envy skill, implying the rib cage is protecting the Person like it would do with an actual heart. Other passives, such as “Shattered Ribcage” and “Ribcage Regeneration”, just strengthen that point.

Things with Abnormality are (almost) never that simple, right? Yes, the Person inside the Abnormality is the accumulation of suffering and fear of the Skeleton, but that also means it is its sense of self as well, for what are Abnormalities but lingering feelings and thoughts? That’s why the only skill proper to the Person part is the “Freed from the Life of Suffering” defense, because by killing the Shadow, you are finally ending the painful sickness and the life that identified itself with such misery.

“A single breath was more than enough. For the first time in their existence, they could breathe in and out as much air as they wanted without hurting. Every living second of their life was pain. No one will ever understand that..” - Abnormality Encounter (“Pick up a respirator” option, check passed).

The “Share the Pain” skill already says that much, about how the Abnormality had no other choice but to accept its circumstances and identify with them—with its useless body that can only experience hardships, unable to move even a single inch. Pain was and is its world, and no matter how “haughty” and “self-grandiose” other people act by saying that there are more things to life, they won’t simply understand it even if the Abnormality were to hit them with that very pain; at most, they will only grasp a fraction of it through its screams full of anguish.

Thus, there’s a sort of a double reading here: is the Skull haunted by unbearable pain, or does it simply refuse to let go of it? We obviously know that the “ghost” inside the ribs will eventually disappear one day, but only if we keep our distance and don’t do anything, merely watching and learning from it instead of giving in to our pity and/or know-it-all reactions that lead us to put a respirator on it. And worst of all? Such a decision can, in fact, help Sleeping Bag, despite going against its opinion and self-image—the whole world it created, the living nightmare it experiences.

The world turned upside-down.

Truth to be told, chronic pain is not something I’m that familiar with, but if my propensity for anxiety is something to go by, then it’s no wonder why the inner world of the Abnormality is a mess. When one is in so much pain and misery, everything outside of that is nothing but a formless blur, a vague and dull sensation that one can’t make sense of at best and that just contributes to one’s suffering at worst. Yet…

“Blowing air into its mouth was to no avail. There was a coughing noise not long after. Perhaps liberation is nigh.” Abnormality Encounter (“Pick up a respirator” option, check failed).

The Abnormality hopes one day its suffering will end, either by dying or by finally being able to breathe—to live—painlessly, its despair and hope fighting inside it thanks to such thoughts (“I was only reaching out to grasp onto something, anything”). And again, we know its pain will disappear one day, but when that day comes, it will be all hollow and silent, not even one answer offered.

Holding out into the painful memories, remaining scared of what will remain… One must wonder if hope and fear are more painful than the sickness or if they are the sickness itself, causing reality and nightmare to become one. But alas, only the Abnormality can answer that.

Here we go another lap, prizes to claim

Yeah, I couldn't avoid naming the sections with the Canto's song. I think it's cute, fitting, and serves as an attempt for something new, especially because I feel these posts are getting longer and longer. They aren't monstrosities as Headless Ichthys or MFE, but still...

At any rate, choosing the quotes was easy for the Bear and Rose Hunter, and not so much for the Bob Squarepants' wrinkled worm. I suppose that's because the previous 2 Abnos are actual parts of the Canto and such informed part of its themes.

But speaking about Sleeping Bag, its section was funny to write. I was stumped on what it meant until the night I had to take muscle relaxants due to my neck pain. Despite the terrible night they caused me, they also turned on the lightbulb! It was pretty similar to what happened with Fairy Gentleman and Nikocado, back in September of last year xD

Regarding the long list of passives I didn't explain… C’mon, their names already explain everything! “Oxygen Supply”, “Deep Breath”, and “Excruciating Suffering”? All of them relate to the Abnormality’s breathing and air, represented by Poise. The only one that is remotely interesting is “After Effect”, and it is likely a reference to how “weak” the skeleton becomes after the destruction of its “heart,” a sort of… I’m not finishing that.

Anyway, there’s something else I wish to comment before moving on: the “Prone” defense skill surprisingly has some scientific backing! The prone position is a body position characterized by lying with the chest facing the floor and the back up. That causes the heart’s weight to move from the lungs to the chest in general, diminishing the pressure on the former and allowing an even-er (does it even exist?) inflation.

In contrast, Rose Hunter... I really don't have much to say about "him" beyond 2 things: the motif of the rose as individuality is surprisingly uniform, and the motif of apples is getting interesting. Regarding the former, I wonder how Four-Hundred Roses relates to that.

And finally, about Teddy Bear, I think it’s weird the way its fight measures the accepted “affections,” since it's based on the quantity of negative effects the Sinners have, which are mostly nails and curses. It's as if the Abnormality is aware of how ugly it has become and taints everything it touches. Maybe it knows how broken it is, despite its search for affection? I don’t really believe so, but it’s an interesting perspective to consider.

Also... I don’t know how the option of its MD Encounter I left out works. I mean, yes, the Sinners applied “band-aids” to the Bear, but how does that heal their HP too? They didn’t apply bandages to themselves, so it’d make more sense for that option to heal their SP… Unless they stole some of them while they were at it. It’s possible, I guess xD

But speaking about bandages, I think I need some too. University started this week and my schedule is hot trash! There's no day I leave before 19:30, especially with the practical subjects of this semester. Truly, it's worse than hell, and by that I mean that writhing these things during night is one way to an early grave 💀

So, beyond my usual disclaimers (feel free comment whatever you think and, please, point out my grammatical/spelling mistakes), there's an extra head-up: the 2nd part is going to take some time to finish (early to mid-April, maybe) and that the post about non-RR Abnormalities will take even longer, though the 1st part will likely be out before RR6.

With all this said and done, then, until the next post!

#limbus company #refraction railway #refraction railway 5 #canto 7 spoilers #canto vii spoilers #intervallo 7.5 spoilers #abnormalities #Hurting Teddy Bear #Rose Hunter #Sleeping Bag of a Bygone Day

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melliae · 2 months ago

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Wish I had a better explanation for the astrology, but someone who knows more about it than me/manages to find information that isn't entirely a scam might be able to.

Oh, good lord, you just had to call me...

Anyway, I commented this in a reddit thread 2 years ago, so I will just quote myself:

Now, onto more esoteric things, I've also read some interpretations about how the zodiac can also symbolize a kind of spiritual journey, beginning with the birth of consciousness in Aries and ending with the complete integration of all experiences in Pisces. Such interpretation is, to no one's surprise, heavily debated and even rejected in astrological circles, but I think it could act as a nice reference to how Makoto and Kotone awakened to the Universe. In the same vein, Pisces can also be connected to one of the images in the book of Lambspring (an alchemical text), which shows the duality between soul and spirit and how the two of them should be joined to achieve "a vastness of which no man can describe", which naturally refers to the idea of "coniuctio" in alchemy that allows the creation of the philosophical stone, a symbol of the Self according to Jung and thereby a synonym with the Universe.

Outside of Pisces' tendency towards wholeness (or togetherness), there are other things I want to highlight:

The Ichthys of Christ, obviously. They are associated so much that the entire astrological age of Pisces is defined through Jesus and christianity.

Pisces is a mutable sign of water, which is to say that implies an adaptability and versativility in the emotional realm (again, the concept of togetherness).

Its classical ruler is Jupiter, the planet of abundance, fertility and joy, the greater benefic. In this regard, I have to mention how the mythological Jupiter/Jove/Zeus was the only Classical male god (to my knowledge) that gave birth by himself.

The gods he birthed? Minerva/Athena and Liber/Dionysus, the latter from his tigh after he implanted the remaining heart that his daughter offered him (sounds familiar?).

In the femenine side, we have that Pisces was originally more connected to mother deities such as Ishtar/Innana and Aphrodite. In the first case, Pisces was more of a dove originally.

In Tarot, Pisces is universally associated to The Moon card. I don't think I have to explain this one, do I?

There's also the decans, but I don't think they are that important. Nonetheless, for the sake of completition... the 1st decan is goberned by Saturn, the 2nd by Jupiter, and the 3rd by Mars.

5th March falls in the 2nd decan, and the other 2 can be related to Ryoji at some level through Saturnus (duh) and the Death Arcana (Death = Scorpio = Mars). Basically, the greater benefic surrounded by the 2 malefics.

When was P3Hero born?

He's not given a birthday anywhere, but we have some clues.

He was a 2nd year in 2009.

He was less than 8 years old in the accident 10 years ago.

He was born on the 5th.

The first one gives an age range of 2/4/92 to 1/4/93. The second's a little harder since we don't have an exact date, but it has to be after Aigis' first activation 10/9/2000 and in 2000. That already limits the age range to 5 months, from 5/10/92 - 5/3/93.

Oh no. Astrology time.

So I don't actually know too much about it. It's actually super interesting looking into it and seeing how manipulative all of it is. But this is a fictional character, and things that don't matter in real life can here. I just looked up the signs and their meanings for all possible birthdays and narrowed it down to 5/3.

March 5th 1993! How nice. Wish I had a better explanation for the astrology, but someone who knows more about it than me/manages to find information that isn't entirely a scam might be able to.

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melliae · 2 months ago

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I want to hear people's reasoning as to how Ryoji being Death is a reason to dislike him. One, that's not his fault. In fact, he's very upset about it. Two, how badly are you misinterpreting P3 to say that that's an inherantly bad thing.

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melliae · 2 months ago

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No, you are right. I've seen that kind of thing several times, too, especially in fanfics.

Beyond the lack of access to side-material (such as the drama CDs), most people either go with their first impression of the character within their cultural frames of references (including stereotypes), they project their own tastes and issues, or both at the same time. The result is something that tells you more about the person than about the character.

In the P3 protagonist's case, what are you called is woobification or (God forgive) ukefication. Though, to be fair, the atmosphere of the game lends itself to it... At first glance, of course. By the end of the story, the player should realize that the protagonist couldn't be further away from that "characterization."

It's a pity, really. The P3 protagonist is such a rich and comfortable character to actually explore. But people will be people, I guess.

I've never got the characterisation of Hero being bad at socialising. The Other Self depends on the player, of course, but that just makes him a Regular Guy. And then there's Leader, who's nice to everyone and they all love him. You can't even blame it on Makoto because he doesn't try.

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melliae · 3 months ago

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I wonder if I should do a post about all the psychological typings I've done...

Besides Nyarlathotep, Philemon, Ryoji, and Miquella, I have typed many other characters...

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melliae · 3 months ago

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Hong Lu, An Analysis-Prediction

Before beginning, as always, I've to clarify something: I haven't read Dream of the Red Chamber. My best source of information are the thematic connections drawn in the Reddit sub of Limbus, and that only gives me a slight idea of what Project Moon may have in mind.

So, everything below here is complete and utter speculation based on my own knowledge and impressions about Hong Lu's character, Sins, EGOS, and Abnormalities. Beware, and feel free to comment your own opinions!

Now, let's go with the post!

What We Know

So, I think the best way to start this analysis is by recapitulating Hong Lu’s overall character so far. For that, we need to return to the first ever explanation of his personality: the “resume” given in the game page and during his presentation in Selva Oscura.

“As such, he has a certain admiration for a free life; but occasionally, he may make ignorant and unsavory questions in regards to the food cooked by a certain other Sinner or other aspects of the low-lives' lowly culture. [,,,] However, it is important to note that no sarcastic undertones are contained in his curiosity-driven inquiries, so it is ill-advised to let them get physical over it.”

As a general thing… It surprisingly holds up! Don’t misunderstand me, though. It isn’t that the description is perfect; it’s just not untrue. In fact, his first even line in the game, about Dante’s head being some sort of trend and not waiting for an answer, totally falls there. Similarly, there are several other moments showing Hong Lu’s innocence and naivety without any ulterior or hidden motive, from wondering if the casino workers of Canto II were trying to make the Peccatula their pets (likely because his grandmother collects weird animals) to unintentionally insulting Outis’ watch in Canto VI. I’d say the biggest proof of his lack of experience is the moment in Canto V where he adjusted the LCCB badge of a pirate that very obviously wasn’t a member of Limbus. Though all of his weirdness may derive from the fact that his elders—which are weird as hell—are his point of reference.

Now, since his most notable trait has been explained, we can move into the discrepancies of the description, and the biggest one is mentioned at the end: that under Hong Lu's comments there is no sarcasm—which is a complete lie! This man is a menace, and the Sinner’s experiences in District 20 during To Claim Their Bones and Canto VI shows it, from agreeing with Caiman’s assessment of LCB to joining Nelly’s teasing, including his lines while helping Heathcliff with his appearance and clothes. But arguably, my favorite example of this is the horror story he told during Canto V that scared Sinclair and which he only finished when the latter ran away. Don't tell me Hong Lu was being innocently insensitive back there: Sinclair was visibly shitting bricks, and the pretty boy here is keen enough to masterfully play the most compassionate and kind member of the League of Nine.

“Brother Young-ji was a man of kindness. He was not one to rashly harbor spite or reproach for others. You resemble him in that sense.” - Yi Sang, Blossoming League of Nine Littérateurs, Canto IV.

Though I suppose the difference between them is that Hong Lu clearly has a more optimistic and fun-loving attitude. This is an obvious trait that he has had since his childhood, when he played with and complained about his “cheating” siblings, sneaked into the dining hall of his manor for snacks, and simply didn’t follow his family’s rules. But since we know his family is extremely strict (if not outright sadistic), this sanguine streak may have developed (or gotten worse) as some sort of defense mechanism, which is seen better with Wakashu Hong Lu and his “lack of manners.” In fact, all of his Identities show an unnatural or improper calmness about his situation, no matter how horrible it is.

Another thing to highlight is his inquisitive, curious, and surprisingly understanding nature. While most of the examples above, especially him playing Young-ji, are proof of that, as it plays very well with his sheltered life. But I want to point out the best and most recent example of Hong Lu’s surprising contemplativeness: Time Killing Time. In particular, the most important scene is near the end, when Rodya and Hong Lu discuss his motivation to pursue the Time Reaper:

“I... just wanted to understand. Because, to me, the world was full of things I couldn't understand. In truth, I still understand so little of it. Why do people hang on so desperately to something like time? Something so... ephemeral?” - Hong Lu, Chapter 15: The Final Problem.

It’s normal to assume Hong Lu’s words are solely referring to the miserable monetary system of T Corp., but I don't think that’s all. We know that Hong Lu and Xinchun are well acquainted with the “immortality of the mind” the elders of their family are obsessed with, and what is immortality but infinite time? Thus, what Hong Lu asked there was why people hang on to the erroneous belief that life should not move or change, remaining constant and hence perfect for the rest of eternity. Yet, that isn’t what life truly is, right? It’s not for nothing that Hong Lu’s introductory quote is that “life has its vicissitudes as jade has its flaws,” which conveys his philosophy of detachment perfectly.

“When you’re distraught, simply remember that life goes on even if what you’re doing now doesn’t work out. Then, you’ll be free of worries.” - LCB Hong Lu

However, while the idea of detaching oneself from the whole without renouncing loving it is respectable, the way in which Hong Lu lives it is far from perfect, because detachment is not about carefreely admitting you will just simply gather the remains of your sister in case she is mutilated or readily accepting a horrible death just because you don’t mind dying. Even he himself admits from time to time, as with his jealousy over Heathcliff’s propensity to “ignore what he doesn’t like” (Rooms Past the Door) or Rim’s capacity to fly freely. In fact, one may even say that he hasn’t become detached at all, because doing so implies the complete acceptance of the “jade’s” beauty and flaws; Hong Lu, however…

“A thousand hours… Will a thousand hours have passed in the blink of an eye? [...] Then... I like that. Rip my time away.” - Hong Lu, Chapter 14: The Clock Tower of Fear, TimeKilling Time.

He has become detached from life altogether, and how could he not with the disaster that his family is? That likely was his only way to survive in such an environment, and unlike the rest of the Jia, he doesn’t seem to have that lucky predisposition for resentment and hatred. Even when his siblings tried to kill him the first time, Hong Lu didn’t come to hate them; he fully understood them because that’s the kind of person he is, just like Young-ji. However, since he realized such a thing through his big heart, he’s now fully aware that he will ultimately and cruelly die by their hands thanks to his love. In such a case, what other option does he have beyond merely “dancing”? A joke here, a sarcastic comment there, and a final appreciation for everyone so nothing is taken seriously and causes dissatisfaction, no matter how dim his eye becomes.

So, as of the 5th Walpurgisnacht, Hong Lu’s character can be summarized as follows:

Has a friendly, compassionate, and understanding personality that clashes against the violent and strict nature of his family.

Became detached over his own life because he can’t bring himself to hate and hurt his family.

His carefree attitude and sheltered life lead him to not understand some of the social conventions of… anyone who still has some respect for their own life.

Has a certain sarcastic and teasing streak, likely originating from both his personality and ideology.

There’s 1 aspect remaining that I didn’t mention above because I think it’s better to analyze Hong Lu’s EGOs first, to see what else we can rescue before giving a sort of “conclusion.”

About EGOs

Before any of you ask, no, I will not analyze Land of Illusion here; it’s best reserved for the next section, about Hong Lu Base ID. Instead, the first EGO I’ll deal with is, fittingly, the first one he ever received: Roseate Desire.

Roseate Desire originates from Pink Shoes, an Abnormality that evidently is an Aberration of Lobotomy Corp.’s Red Shoes, with their shared meaning being that of a single-minded and very violent obsession that’s impossible to resist—one of the purest expressions of Lust. But while Red Shoes and its EGO are fundamentally egoistic, not wanting to share the glory and pleasure of their desire’s fulfillment, Pink Shoes and Roseate Desire are of a softer shade, spreading their overwhelming lust to as many people as possible. The difference becomes clearer when you compare Rodya’s and Ishmael’s respective obsessions: the longing to be special vs. the desire to kill the “source of all evil” in retribution for all she has done.

Applying the former logic to Hong Lu, we can conclude first that he has a desire as strong as Ishmael’s hatred for Ahab, which is quite unexpected for someone who has basically given up on life! Thankfully, the Sin resources his version of Roseate Desire costs tell us a couple of things about his “fixation”: 4 Lust and 2 Envy. The dominance of Lust is self-explanatory, so that leaves us with Envy, which I commented on in the previous section: jealousy over those who can ignore and escape their problems—those who are “free.” Yet, since Roseate Desire and Pink Shoes are characterized by a sort of collective hedonism, so is Hong Lu’s wish to escape his family. Surely such a thing will bring joy to his cut-throat siblings.

And speaking about escapism, Hong Lu’s next two EGOs are all about that, beginning with the one whose Abnormality I analyzed in one of my previous posts: Dimension Shredder.

While Wayward Passenger is an Abnormality that is clearly about the trauma inflicted by W Corp.’s method of operation, it has a secondary meaning that Project Moon uses for its EGO too: being trapped in a horrible duty, necessity, or “path” that makes the individual envious of the life and possibilities others hold. This is best seen with Outis’ Dimension Shredder due to the Envy affinity, though Hong Lu’s Pride version isn’t that far off thanks to the Sin costs: 3 Pride and 3 Gluttony. Basically, it means that Hong Lu is “lost” due to external necessity, by things he can’t control (i.e., his family), but instead of resenting it as any other person would do, he takes pride in that, in having to follow a “terrible path,” because that’s the type of person he knows he is—the kind and understanding one that sacrifices himself.

The second EGO about escapism originates from LobCorp and hence from an Abnormality I haven’t analyzed: Soda and Opened Can of WellCheers, respectively. The two come from a Korean urban legend about people being drugged through juice cans and sold to fishing boats as slaves. Needless to say, the parallels with Hong Lu’s Soda are more than obvious: an envy born from a necessity (Gluttony) that grimly (Gloom) pushed him into a role he doesn’t want. Alternatively, and considering the ending of the Abnormality’s story log in LC, it’s the fulfillment of a fantasy born of jealousy, sadness, and necessity, though that doesn’t explain the Envy affinity of the EGO. Either way, nobody can deny that Soda stands for Hong Lu’s “murdered” wish to flee his circumstances.

The next EGO luckily is from another Abnormality I analyzed some time ago: Ambling Pearl and Effervescent Corrosion. However, unlike Rodya, who keeps the Abnormality’s original meaning mostly intact (safekeeping the “pearl”/one’s meaning from the “filthy” outside), Hong Lu gives it a twist: it’s not about protecting his “life treasure,” but something else

“Faust: For instance, let’s say that Hong Lu held a belief he was certain would be an unchanging constant as he lived in the City. Or, it could be a hope for some other psychological sustainment that has supported his life. Hong Lu: …Hmm. Faust: If that support suddenly collapses in a massively shocking event that causes one to let their “ego” go, his mind would crumble, so to speak. Hong Lu: …Well, I could see that happening. [...] Hong Lu: Hm… I thought I knew, but I can’t seem to elaborate on it with words right now.” - Chapter 3: Hell’s Chicken, Hell’s Chicken.

Unlike Rodya’s desire to be special and her notorious inner conflict, which is reflected in how similar her Corrosion is to a broken Ambling Pearl, Hong Lu is much more secretive about his opinions, usually referring to his frivolous comments instead of using the great insight he has, according to Dante. Nonetheless, even if we don’t exactly know the “core belief” he holds close to his heart (though we should have a general idea at this point), we do know that his version of Effervescent Corrosion, beyond Gluttony or the desire to survive, requires Gloom. So whatever Hong Lu is hiding, it’s far from happy, as his Sin weaknesses further show after EGO usage: weak to Lust and Sloth, to love and inaction—to the idea of not protecting himself.

In a similar vein, Hong Lu’s next EGO is entirely about sadness, as it comes from Blubbering Toad, aka depression incarnated. However, Cavernous Wailing isn’t a Gloom EGO but a Sloth one, and whose Sin costs are Gloom, Sloth, and Pride. That’s to say, Hong Lu’s refusal to take action and the resulting self-pity (“A heart shaken by sorrow bursts… like this.”) are fed by his sadness, indolence, and distorted self-perception, an aggrandized mental image of himself as able to carry all his pain without problem.

“It goes like this. Any of our siblings who managed to survive on their own up to the age of thirteen in our household will probably be a-okay even if they were to be tossed out to the middle of the Outskirts! Hehe…” - Hong Lu, Chapter 20, Canto VII.

Finally, the last EGO is the newly added Lasso, which comes from Rose Hunter, and really, its Mirror Dungeon Encounter puts it the best: Rose Hunter is the one who makes sure all stories follow their natural course, their flow, and “he” is no exception; the Hunter is willing to get lost if that’s the story it must obey. Fittingly, Lasso represents the same idea of not resisting one’s “tale” or “myth,” going along with what’s written not out of indolence or apathy, but because it’s necessary, akin to the motif of the “fetters of fate,” for example. In that regard, their underlying archetype is the same as that of the Orphic Ananke, the deification of the necessity that created the universe, which can be best understood through the following aphorism: existence came to be because it exists. Or put it in a simpler manner: you must follow your nature because that’s who you are.

Hong Lu’s Lasso, in the same way as Faust’s, requires first and foremost Gluttony to work, for that’s the entire deal of the Abnormality. Then comes the Lust requirement, which implies this “work” is also done out of either love or a twisted desire, a mania for things to follow their assigned nature or role. The final Sin cost is the variable one, which for Hong Lu is Pride again, his aggrandized sense of self that drives him to fulfill his role without complaining, solely out of love and necessity.

So, with all the EGOs analyzed, we can rescue the following:

Hong Lu, more than anything, wishes to escape the situation he has been put in. He wants to be free behind all those frivolous and/or insensitive commentaries.

However, due to his upbringing, he “murdered” those wishes so to speak, and remains walking the path his family has put him by many reasons, chief among them his love for them and his distorted perception of his own self.

Thus, all that longing and yearning for freedom remains hidden, barely able to see the light of the day except in the rarest of occasions. That’s likely his “pearl,” the thing that he ultimately hides for his own survival.

About His Base ID and EGO

You know, I have always been curious about why people are so adamant about Hong Lu being depressed. No doubt he has depression at some level, but I don’t think it’s as severe as people normally think it is because his Base ID simply lacks any form of Gloom. This is in stark contrast to Sinners such as Yi Sang, Gregor, and especially Ishmael, since she has a Gloom Base EGO as well. But if such is the case, then what does Land of Illusion means, since it requires Gloom to be used?

However, I think it’s important to understand Hong Lu’s Sin spread first, his psychology in this particular possibility:

His third skill, that is, his most inward and deep trait, is Lust. This Sin placement is only shared with LCB Heathcliff, whose devotion to Catherine is quite literally a multiversal constant as per Canto VI; everything he does, he does it for Cathy. Thus, Hong Lu must have a similarly romantic or affectionate nature, and we know that he isn’t the type to stop “loving” due to the cruelty of a person; his reaction towards the attempt against his life says enough. He even tried to understand the Time Ripper at some level during TimeKilling Time.

His second skill is Sloth, an inaction that’s much shallower but no less decisive, so to speak. One can understand it as deriving from his much more encompassing Lust or Love, which is to say that Hong Lu refuses to take action or initiative in his life out of love and understanding, in a similar manner to how LCB Faust lets her every move be commanded by the Gesellschaft thanks to her need for self-realization.

Finally, his third skill, his most outward and shallow trait, is Pride. This position is only shared with the Base IDs of Faust (again) and Sinclair, although the former is the easiest one to understand: Faust is somewhat haughty without a doubt, but not egocentric or self-absorbed by any metric; she’s just socially naive and with a great deal of knowledge that tends to ostracize her by her own volition. Pride is, after all, the de facto Sin of distorted self-perception, of thinking you are more capable than you really are.

Again, all of this tells us what we already know: the kindness of Hong Lu, his indolence born out of said kindness, and the weight he alone bears on his shoulders. We can’t even say that he has a low self-esteem unless we include in that definition a “imposing limits on who you are,” which, yes, sounds right, but it leans too much in the territory of semantics for my taste. Furthermore, Hong Lu’s strange relationship with Gloom and sadness can also be contrasted with the Sinners I mentioned before, those with Gloom and whose Cantos are available:

Yi Sang was the living stereotype of the depressed person: cold, distant, unfeeling, dead inside, etc. Whatever you name, Yi Sang likely had it.

Ishamel’s emptiness and self-destructivity were well-hidden until her Canto, during which all hell was let loose.

And Gregor is possibly one of the most realistic approaches of all, as we can see with the flashbacks of his past during Canto I. Even so, he… well, remains somewhat functional (and I’m really stretching the definition there xD)

And don’t get confused. In this case, Gloom isn’t equal to feeling sad or being traumatized by any means; every Sinner has their own share of problems, and not all have Gloom. Sinclair had his family and town massacred thanks to Kromer's obsession with him, for example, and while I don’t doubt he feels a deep sadness and regret about it, he doesn’t have Gloom in his Base ID. The same applies to Rodya, her low self-worth, and her guilt about the fate of her neighbors, lacking any sort of Gloom as well. The most extreme and recent case of this is boss Sancho, who doesn’t have any Gloom skill at all, despite her character and story being more than fitting.

Therefore, Gloom, in the straightest sense and avoiding exceptions or little quips, refers to a deep-seated hopelessness, a melancholy that devours all dreams and hopes, causing one to become completely lost in life. In such a case then, it’s not that Hong Lu isn’t sad or, damn, depressed, but that he knows how to manage such emotions so they don’t overwhelm him as they do with Gregor, Yi Sang, or Ishmael. The same likely happens with his wish to escape and his jealousy, for he seemingly knows that no life is truly a “flawless jade.”

“In a way, we’re all ‘deprived’... and that can change a lot of things. Maybe there are things that we can understand only when we’re left with nothing.” - Hong Lu, Chapter 1: Wuthering Heights, Canto VI.

This self-control naturally falls in line with his inclination for Pride and Lust, creating a sort of “transpersonal” point of view that allows him to curb his emotions in order to understand others. It’s quite Buddhist or Taoist, no? This kind of detachment over life I explained before, I mean. In a way, it strengthens the theory of Jia family elders treating Hong Lu as a golden child, and while he doesn’t seem to really like the idea, he resigned himself to it.

“I can't do much about what I was born with~ To them... I was a gem of a child.” - Hong Lu, Liu Association South Section 5 Uptie Story.

He renounced all the transient things in his life, all of his wishes and sadness, in order to carry out his family’s expectations: the preferred family head candidate. And what is another form to call transient things? Illusions.

Land of Illusion is the culmination of Hong Lu’s hidden sadness, his yearning to escape that will forever remain out of his reach—or at least he thinks so.

“With this there is often, to a smaller or greater extent, a savior complex, or a Messiah complex, with the secret thought that one day one will be able to save the world; the last word in philosophy, or religion, or politics, or art, or something else, will be found.” - Marie-Louise von Franz, The Problem of the Puer Aeternus.

Hong Lu doesn’t believe himself to be a savior, naturally. But I cannot deny that it would be very much in character for him to imagine or fantasize about a world where he doesn’t have to fulfill his family expectations, where they can all be happy. That would explain the Lust cost of Land of Illusions, as well as the weaknesses to Envy and Wrath, which are a stand-in for the rejection of his innermost wish.

But alas, at the end, life has its flaws, and there’s no way Hong Lu will raise a fist against his family. Even if his survival depends on it, Hong Lu won’t defend himself because that would mean choosing and thus losing, and there’s nothing more terrifying to the eternal child than losing things. Death is a much more merciful and tempting possibility than acting and suffering.

“The puer aeternus very often has this mature, detached attitude toward life, which is normal for old people but which he acquires prematurely—the idea that life is not everything, that the other side is valid too, that life is only part of the whole existence. [...] So before he has gone down to earth, he already has the offer of death.” - The Problem of the Puer Aeternus.

In this regard, it doesn’t matter much Dante’s rewind or the actual existence of an afterlife. It’s the idea of death as a solution for a hard life, instead of confronting the problem itself, of standing up and withstand the uncertainty and pain of life.

AAt the end of his Canto, Hong Lu will have to stand up for himself and to carry on the pain. That's how a "child" becomes an "adult," or better said, an actual family head.

Post-Commentary

... Yeah.

To be honest, I don't know where the inspiration behind came for this. It just fell on me one day, like Faust's theory. But where I'm confident in that one, I'm completely lost in this post, especially because while the conclusion seems right (standing up to the abuse and expectations coming from one's family), the reasoning is somewhat flimsy? I don't know. I have the feeling that I'm retreating Canto VII's (and even Canto III's) story and themes somehow, though the similarities may be the reason of why Xinchun was introduced, maybe. That would make Don's confusion funnier xD

The final mentions of the puer aeternus (similar to the Peter Pan syndrome, but not quite) are due to how Hong Lu's character screamed "puer" to me, surpassing every other one. The fact his summary highlighted that he is a "bachelor" brought to mind this little quote of Marie-Louise's books:

“The two typical disturbances of a man wh ohas an outstanding mother complex are, as Jung points out, homosexuality and Don Juanism.”

If a man gets around too frequently, he'll obviously not get married. If he's gay, then even less reason to do so or look at women. In this case, the idea is not about the actual sexual orientation of Hong Lu (or the accuracy of the book's assessment), and more about highlighting his refusal to commit.

Also, as a funny note, The Problem of the Puer Aeternus has a fragment that's really similar to, from what I've gathered, the warnings the monks gave to the Stone at the beginning. Since the book also deals with the case of Saint-Exupéry and The Little Prince, there may also be something interesting regarding Demian (Limbus', not Hesse's).

Anyway, and repeating myself, if you have any other opinion or thought you want to share, feel free to do so! Similarly, if you notice any orthographical or grammatical error, let me know. It's difficult to see them, even when using several online tools...

#limbus company #hong lu #canto 7 spoilers #canto vii spoilers #canto viii speculations #canto 8 speculations #limbus company theory

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#as for gold being the end goal of alchemy and tziah being the middle#it is the point at which sees thinks theyre at the end while theyre fighting the final shadows

I wouldn't think too much about that disconnection. While alchemy did embrace the Chaldean order of the planets (speed as seen from the Earth), which included Saturn as the outermost planet and the Moon as the nearest one, it still held the Sun/gold and the Moon/silver as the most perfect universal essences among all, only rivaled (or surpassed) by mercury/quicksilver.

And just in case, gold is technically not the end goal of alchemy, but a consequence of it. The goal is the Philosopher's Stone, which, as the crystallized microcosm, can perfect any stuff it's applied to, such as the immortalization of man or the transmutation of gold.

(Edit: But then again, alchemy is pretty ambiguous. Gold can be very well a symbol of the Great Work's end)

Which leads me to…

#the 'false gold' is a concept in p3 as ryoji and messiah which should be the gold is white and is more the moon than the sun

The final Persona of Ryoji’s Linked Episodes clearly marks him as the Black Sun, or Saturn. He’s the “greater malefic” in contrast to the protagonist being mercury/quicksilver, a union of opposites between Moon (as the “mother of the sun”) and Sun (as the hero), which fits with his androgynous appearance and marks him as the Stone-to-be.

Needless to say, the relationship between the protagonist and Ryoji is still mind-blowing.

On the other hand, Messiah… I still don’t understand why it’s white. I believe you mentioned on reddit that it may have been to contrast Messiah with Nyx Avatar, and in that case an alchemical approach may not be useful. But if we do so (just like I did xD), then that would mean Messiah is the albedo stage and/or white stone, the previous step before the rubedo and Philosopher’s Stone as such. Still a noteworthy achievement, but certainly not at the same level of the “perfected microcosm.”

I think that the devs tried to correct that by adding Orpheus Telos to FES. Unlike Messiah, Telos has a palette of red, yellow, and sky blue (azure), which are all the colors related to the Philosopher’s Stone and Junpei’s Trismegistus (that has the Stone in its beak). Though I guess in that case, Messiah’s yellowish hair and red hair must be mentioned…

#i just dont get why.... what does that add?

Sun + Sun’s Shadow and Moon + Sun at the same time, in contrast to Sun’s Shadow + Moon’s Shadow.

Like Harabah is Garden of the Scorched and is red in the menu, so it's Mars.

Which reminds me of something interesting: Akihiko is of the Emperor Arcana, which is associated with Aries, the diurnal sign of the red planet of Mars and thus iron. Despite Akihiko being Virgo (Mercury), he's fundamentally a martial character.

Similarly, Venus (Empress) is associated with copper, a reddish metal that's can be called in japanese as "赤金" or "red metal/gold" (beyond "銅," obviously). I suppose that may have influenced Mitsuru's design at some level.

I wrote a bit about how the 7 blocks of Tartarus(including Eretz excluding Monad) correspond to the 7 alchemical planets/metals, but I accidentally deleted it and have Zero motivation to write it again. I think what's making me the most crazy about it is the way that while it works SO well it also works both ways??? Like Harabah is Garden of the Scorched and is red in the menu, so it's Mars. But Yabbashah is played through the summer when it's hot so it's also Mars.

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Understanding Miquella through Jung and MBTI (Kind of…)

I’ve wanted to write this post for a long time, like, since October or so from the past year. This desire stemmed from the community’s reaction to Miquella and how the somber worlds created by Miyazaki are dyed with his own Introversion, which means that most players interested in psychological typology tend to type almost every character as “introverted.”

Needless to say, they are all wrong.

I don’t mean to come off as an expert of typology at all (far from it, actually). But I have to admit that it’s quite disheartening that most “typologists” somehow think that all the “shades” of extroversion below the partygoers, 24-hours-awake ESFx, are “introverted,” especially in a game where understanding the psychology and motivations of the characters is so important for the story—which is something I hope this post can help with at some level.

Now, before going into the typings, there’s something I must point out the lie I put in the title: I’m not using MBTI as such. While the codes and letters have some meaning and I plan to use them, especially the facets, a great deal of this post is also based on the masterwork of psychological typology: Carl Jung’s Psychological Types. Other important sources include (in decreasing order of importance) Marie-Louise Von Franz’s Lectures on Jung’s Typology, Daryl Sharp’s Personality Types, and David Keirsey’s Please Understand Me II. There’s also another one, the Tumblr blog of Akhromant, which I prefer to explain in my Post-Commentary section.

All of this explanation may seem meaningless, but it isn’t. Long story short, Jung originally described a model of the mind with pure attitudes, that is, how consciousness is one-sided and acquires one of the two main attitudes, Introversion or Extraversion. The other attitude is adopted by the personal unconscious as a mechanism of balance due to the psyche’s inherent wholeness. This means that there won’t be an “EIEI/IEIE” stack, but an “EEII/IIEE” one, and by consequence the common belief of the Judging dichotomy (J vs P) reflecting the first extraverted function will be missing as well.

With all of this said, I can go and explain the typing now :D

Miquella the Kind ENFJ

“Miquella the Kind...is a monster. Pure and radiant, he wields love to shrive clean the hearts of men. There is nothing more terrifying.” - Sir Ansbach, after Miquella discarded his Great Rune.

First and foremost, Miquella is a Feeling type. Yes, Thinking types can and do wish to create a utopia as well, but there’s a difference between the task-centered methods of Thinking and the people-oriented nature of Feeling, and Miquella showed it well: from trying to stop Malenia’s rot to offering refuge to all the “castes” forsaken by the Golden Order—everything falls under the Empathetic, Compassionate, and Tender facets of Feeling. Damn, even some of those facets are used directly to describe Miquella!

However, the biggest proof of Miquella’s nature as a Feeling type is, obviously, his charming power mentioned as often as his compassionateness and tenderness. For example, a Thinking type would not try to charm and compel the heart of their rival for the world’s fate because, again, they are more focused on the task at hand than on the people. The fact that Miquella even decided to charm people who very well could kill him (Ansbach and the Tarnished) speaks volumes about his empathetic nature that, yes, it’s 100% genuine, independent of how sketchy it is on occasions.

“The Empyrean Miquella is loved by many people. Indeed, he has learned very well how to compel such affection.” - Bewitching Branch

“The extroverted feeling type is characterized by the fact that his main adaptation is carried by an adequate evaluation of outer objects and an appropriate relation to them. [...] These are well adjusted, very reasonable people who roll along amiably through society, can get what they want quite easily, and can somehow arrange it that everybody is willing to give them what they want.” - Lectures on Jung's Typology.

“Although this tendency to overpower or coerce the other person with her secret feelings rarely plays a disturbing role in the normal [Introverted Feeler], and never leads to a serious attempt of this kind, some trace of it nevertheless seeps through into the personal effect they have on him, in the form of a domineering influence often difficult to define. It is sensed as a sort of stifling or oppressive feeling which holds everybody around her under a spell.” - Psychological Types.

And all of that inevitably leads to the conclusion that Miquella isn’t only a Feeling type but a Feeling Judger—an xxFJ, in other words. The Judging aspect is seen through his prodigious work under the Golden Order Fundamentalism too, which is “scholarship in all but name,” thus necessarily being a J-aspect. The fact that he created three Incantations for Radagon, among which is found the Golden Order Incantation with the second-highest requirements of Intelligence and Faith (31/31), speaks a lot of how serious and driven Miquella is; he didn’t do all of that just for fun or because he wanted to experience it, but due to a genuine desire to help her sister.

“And yet, the young Miquella abandoned fundamentalism, for it could do nothing to treat Malenia's accursed rot. This was the beginning of unalloyed gold.” - Radagon’s Rings of Light.

The creation of unalloyed gold, Elphael, the Haligtree, and the Needles imply that behind Miquella’s kind facade lies an absolute prodigy who is very determined about things, short of moving earth and heavens to achieve what he wants. The entire point of his character is that he always has some motivation, some greater goal for all he does. Besides, his character is more of a charmer (FJ) than that of a friend (FP), right? Miquella put himself at the head of Elphael, and he planned to become the God of the next Age. He’s much more about authority (J) than freedom (P), especially how liberal he is with his charms.

So all in all, Miquella is a Judging character, and considering how some of his miraculous creations remain unfinished, he’s also more choleric than melancholic, more about getting things done than getting stuck at trying to achieve some perfection. Abandoning Golden Order Fundamentalism despite his talent? Seemingly creating 1 perfect Needle while leaving the rest unfinished? Leaving Elphael and the Haligtree in order to become God? All of them are part of the “ruthlessness” proper of the choleric temperament and types, and since the sanguine and choleric temperaments are extraverted, Miquella is therefore an Extraverted Feeler.

I repeat: Miquella is extraverted.

He’s not an isolated, misunderstood genius. He’s not someone who hides his own feelings and appears cold—almost unfeeling—to the outside. He’s not someone who is lost in “fruitless fantasies” that he doesn’t wish to realize, nor someone who lives in his own world and feels disconnected from what happens in front of him. Far from it. He actually created his own city, his own armies, his own arts, and his fate. He dominated a subject that required deep understanding of metaphysical laws, just to abandon it when it offered no practical, tangible results. He inspired love and devotion in the masses and promised them salvation. You just need to compare him to Ranni, an actual introvert, to see how they are worlds apart in terms of attitude.

Miquella is all about social manipulation, about compelling others to follow him. He oversees things; he’s a master of the people. Those things are all ExFJ or Dominant Extraverted Feeling (Fe), the social master that attunes its feeling judgments (or moral/ethical evaluations) to the outside world, localized in time and space. The biggest example of this is Miquella's reaction at Godwyn’s half death, where he was the only one of his siblings to, well, actually do something, sending some of his men to do a sort of eclipse ritual. Furthermore, he also created an epitaph that expressed his condolences about Godwyn’s state and seemingly put it in what may or may not be Godwyn’s public/first tomb (?). This fits with the Initiative and Active facets of Extraversion, because Extraversion is all about how the individual involves oneself with the outside world.

“Now, when orientation by the object predominates in such a way that decisions and actions are determined not by subjective views but by objective conditions, we speak of an extraverted attitude. [...] Like Epimetheus, his inner life is subordinated to external necessity, though not without a struggle; but it is always the objective determinant that wins in the end.” - Psychological Types.

Does it sound familiar? “And so Kindly Miquella would abandon everything,” maybe? It’s also quite obvious that Miquella does not put that much thought into his inner life, sacrificing both his love and doubts in order to ascend to godhood—another proof of his choleric temperament to boot. And just by that matter, his divestment of his flesh and body may be more ritualistic than typological, so I’m not sure what dichotomy may represent. But if I had to choose something, it’d be without conscious Intuition over Sensation.

“Primarily, therefore, sensation is sense perception—perception mediated by the sense organs and ‘body-senses’ (kinaesthetic, vasomotor sensation, etc.).” - Psychological Types.

Sensation is the function attuned to bodily- and sense-perception, to all the physiological stimuli. It’s a perfect fit for Miquella to have it as an unconscious function, disregarding his bodily reality for the sake of a spiritual, “intangible” one—for the realm of Intuition and its future possibilities. This makes Miquella an ENFJ, and Kirsey has the following to say about the NFs:

“With their instinct for seeking common ground, with their ability to interpret each side's communications in a positive way, with their gift for putting themselves in another's place, and with their metaphorical language easily and fluidly turning one thing into another, Idealists are well-equipped for the difficult task of influencing people's attitudes and actions, not only inspiring them to grow, but also settling differences among them, smoothing difficulties--everlooking to enlighten the people around them and to forge unity among them.”

Needless to say, the description is quite flowery and a bit too wide, including some general aspects of FJs. But while xSFJs remain in the physical and concrete side of things, in the actions and measures taken, xNFJs move beyond that in the meaning of those, in what they imply for the world. They see how things can change and evolve, for that’s what Intuition does, and since it’s conditioned by Feeling, then it’s how the inner/outer world can change in accordance to those evaluations—how he can change the world in accordance to the sharing and externalization of his values.

Obviously, since Intuition can be defined as “spooky action at a distance,” then it’s not surprising that Miquella acts as the guiding hand and symbol of things, but not the actual person who does it. This is seen with him sending Malenia to kill Radhan instead of going himself, and the same can be said for Leda and Co., acting always at a distance and motivating others. All of this also implies a lack of Extraverted Sensation or Se (ES), which is the function most attuned to the physical world and bodily existence, and also to preexistent traditions when mixed with Extraverted Feeling, which is something Miquella completely lacks: he was the child of the founders of the Golden Order, studied and mastered Golden Order Fundamentalism, and even followed similar steps to his mother’s, but instead of remaining at what was merely present, he moved beyond and into what was possible: unalloyed gold, a technique and ideology that not a single Fundamentalism could ever come up with.

Beyond his rejection of the Golden Order and the creation of new magical arts and crafts (Original > Traditional; Imaginative > Realistic), I think the biggest clue for Miquella being an Extraverted Intuitive is St. Trina and her relationship with dreams. This is mainly due to the psychoanalytic nature of dreams as symbols of the unconscious: sensory experiences in which the forsaken and primitive contents of the psyche are imprinted, and that exactly is the realm of Sensation oriented to Introversion (Si), to the “subjective factor” of the unconscious (the meaning of the dreams is part of Introverted Intuition/Ni). Furthermore, the entire schtick about Trina easing and calming people may be related to the description about Introverted Sensation’s behavior of “raising the too little, and lowering the too high” given by Jung. Hence, Trina is the likely representation of (some) Si-aspects of Miquella, and the only ExFJs that actually have Si are the ENFJs, or Fe - Ne - Si - Ti.

Now, Trina as a symbol of Si is a curious thing. As I previously said, the psyche, that is, the entire mind, both unconscious and conscious, is inherently whole. It embraces all possible aspects of the human experience, and the functions are no exception; every human can think, feel, sense, and intuit, just in different ways according to their own nature. In Miquella’s case, his conscious side and confidence fall in the perception of what is externally possible in accordance to what is shared (Fe > Ne), while his unconscious aspects acquire the opposite aspects: it follows what is internally felt (which is, by definition, timeless thanks to the properties of the unconscious) in accordance to what it’s internally thought or defined. But since this last axis is unconscious, the results of its activity tend to be… less than ideal.

“The [extroverted] intuitive very often does not wait long enough. He starts the business, but that is enough for him; he sells out and loses on it, but the next owner makes a lot of money out of the same business. The intuitive is always the one who invents but in the end gets nothing out of it.” - Lectures on Jung’s Typology.

That is in relation to the inferior Si of ENxPs (conscious dominant Ne) and thus doesn’t apply 100% to Miquella. Still worth considering, since some of those “irresponsible” aspects are present in him, just in a more controlled manner (J > P), such as leaving Needles incomplete as soon as they got results (Miquella’s Needle vs. Unalloyed Gold Needle). In fact, I want to stop here, at the Needles, because they present one of the most important pieces of symbolism of Miquella: fate and identity.

Marie-Louise implied that Sensation is the function most attuned to the process of physical creation, of tools and/or experiences. They are the useful and practical problem-solvers (more so STs than SFs), which perfectly fits with the Needles Miquella created, acting not as a symbol of his social/political power and visions, but of his own removed and unconscious practicality. They are the bridge of union he created once the external world (i.e., the Golden Order, his familiar/known circle) offered no help to Malenia’s predicament, and since his Si is conditioned by his inferior Introverted Thinking (Ti), the Needles and unalloyed gold are symbols of Miquella’s own journey of individuation (development of the Self).

“There is something I must return to Malenia. The dignity, the sense of self, that allowed her to resist the call of the scarlet rot.” - Millicent, Unalloyed Gold Needle.

“One of the unalloyed gold needles that Miquella crafted to ward away the meddling of outer gods.” - Miquella’s Needle.

If we understand Outer Gods as interferences that come from the unconscious, as some sort of psychic self-balancing mechanism, then it makes sense how they can only be warded off by the integration of unconscious contents, as represented by the Needles. This goes double for the Frenzied Flame, since it acts as a really nice symbol for the complete dissolution and destruction of the psyche—a return to unconsciousness. Thus, the Needles are the things that allow an individual to “wave” their being and identity, to define who they are and where they psychologically stand, which is exactly the domain of Introverted Thinking. The original imagery of Miquella’s Needle as a lobotomy-like process, by that matter, is a likely manifestation of the unconscious functions’ primitiveness; they are unrefined, unrealized, and for that they need the help of the conscious mind.

The idea of the Needles themselves acting as a symbol of something higher seems to have been understood by Miquella very well, considering how he even named an entire branch of his followers after them, and all the Needles were designed with the typical spiral of duality, union, and divinity, which are proper elements of individuation. Even the Haligtree and its spiral sigil were no exception, as the sacred tree was nurtured by Miquella embedding himself in the roots and giving it his blood, representing a deep, introverted state of the psyche.

“It is evident at a glance that God has caught the sickness of Prometheus. [...] All his libido has gone into the unconscious, where an equivalent must be prepared; for libido is energy, and energy cannot disappear without a trace, but must always produce an equivalent. This equivalent is Pandora and the gift she brings to her father: a precious jewel which she wants to give to mankind to ease their sufferings.” - Psychological Types.

Blood, as the vital flow of the body, acts as a symbol of psychic energy (libido) and, in Miquella’s case, of Introverted Sensation. That’s to say, the Haligtree was an attempt of Miquella to realize his own Self originally, of trying to reach the unconscious numinous of his whole being that encompasses both poles of the world (Feeling + Thinking) through using his tertiary function, since the inferior or unconscious dominant function can’t be reached through the normal means of consciousness. This is also reflected on Psychological Types as well, since just in the following paragraphs after the quote, Jung mentioned how the birth of the Buddha under a tree is a synonym with his analysis of Spitteler’s Prometheus and Epimetheus, and those two are equivalents to the alchemic image of the homunculus created in the alembic. And by that matter, yes, the world tree, the Buddha, and the homunculus are all symbols of the Self, or psychological wholeness.

So then… What happened? Why did Miquella give up on that endeavor? After all, we can’t fault Mogh knowing Miquella charmed him, hence the fault must be on him. It doesn’t matter if it was because Malenia corrupted Radhan instead of killing him, or because he suddenly decided against the idea. Either way, it was because he likely wasn’t able to let go of an important thing, of the single aspect that had defined his existence up to that moment: his wish to help “every living being and soul,” which is solely defined by his dominant Feeling. He was able to abandon his Intuition that had moved him, so he could remain quiet and with his blood flowing into the promised jewel that could alleviate all the misery of the world, but what he found was unacceptable for his consciousness.

“When the fourth function comes up, however, the whole upper structure collapses. The more you pull up the fourth, the further the upper floor descends. [...] At this moment comes the great conflict, which means for the thinking type, for instance, the famous sacrificium intellectus or, for the feeling type, the sacrificium of his feeling. It is having the humility to go down with one’s other functions to that lower level.” - Lectures on Jung’s Typology.

For Miquella to become whole and achieve his dream, he paradoxically had to sacrifice it, for the dominant and inferior functions are incompatible in nature; Feeling abhors Thinking, and so does Thinking with Feeling, especially when the two are rooted so deep in the opposite poles of the psyche. Therefore, independent of the event that triggered the decision, Miquella abandoned the path towards his own realization because he could not bear forsaking his feelings. Maybe that’s the reason why he charmed Mogh instead of anyone else, since the dominant Ne he has (yes, Mogh likely is an ExNP, in contrast to Morgott being an ISxJ) was the best complement for Miquella’s dominant Feeling.

And with all of this, we find ourselves back with St. Trina, the Introverted Sensation discarded by Miquella, in the Stone Coffin Fissure.

“To an intuitive type who has not brought up his sensation, the world of the sensation type looks very like a lunar landscape—that is, empty and dead. He thinks the sensation type spends his life with corpses, [...]” - Carl Jung, Notes of the Seminar Given in 1925.

Eerily reminiscent, don’t you think? Trina ever has a Putrescent Knight by her side, a walking dead body. Furthermore, the chimeric appearance of Trina can also be explained similarly by Jung’s work: a still plant is symbolism of a deep state of unconsciousness, while the human effigy is one for conscious development and integration, hinting at how Miquella stopped his inner development halfway. He was close to achieving a full acceptance for his being, but doing so would have put the inherent individualism of individuation over the collectivism of Miquella’s Extraverted Feeling.

St. Trina embodying Miquella’s tertiary function coincides with her being described as “his love” in-game and as “his fate” in the SotE trailer too, since that particular function acts as the bridge for the inferior one and the whole bulk of the unconscious mind. In essence, it’s the key to Miquella’s true identity, his drive to accept himself and, in that, the whole world as it is, without any pretense, expectation, or projection. But since he rejected it in favor of becoming a god of the masses, of the people…

“But these salutary effects are lost as soon as the object gains ascendency. The force of extraverted feeling then pulls the personality into the object, the object assimilates him, whereupon the personal quality of the feeling, which constitutes its chief charm, disappears. It becomes cold, “unfeeling,” untrustworthy. It has ulterior motives, or at least makes an impartial observer suspect them.” - Psychological Types.

The entire debate about what Trina being Miquella’s “love” means for his age is proof enough, I think. Furthermore, both Jung and Marie-Louise commented that the Eros “function” of an individual has little to nothing to do with the actual function of Feeling, so more support to the idea that Trina is, in fact, Miquella’s love in every sense.

At the end of his journey, Miquella sacrificed everything he had inside. He forsook and sealed his own soul in the land of the dead in order to follow his own conscious moral judgments that can “change” the world. He became a living, “spooky” spirit that embodies his own ideals without care for his bodily and unconscious aspects—he has no need for them when his King Consort can take care of them, right? Now, he needs not to care for thinking, not to vacillate, nor attach himself to anything. Miquella just needs to act in accordance with his own feelings, for the sake of the world he became identified with.

Miquella won’t doubt ever again, it seems. But it isn’t as if it was different from before, though, since his choice of Radhan as Lord seems to be derived from the very same “popular” judgment: he didn’t choose Radhan because he loved him necessarily, but because he fit with all “reasonable expectations.” His older half-brother was the living image of both Godfrey and Radagon after all.

I guess the madness of Marika’s family is truly unbreakable.

Post-Commentary

I originally wanted to type both Miquella and Ranni in this post, but I realized halfway that trying to write the two here would, huh, require a little more space. Just a little, though.

Regarding the tumblr I linked, it may look unprofessional and even haughty, but it’s one of the best sources I’ve found in psychological types outside of Jung, Marie-Louise, and Personality Types (which is an easy-to-digest summary of both Jung’s and Marie-Louise’s works; good place to start!). Outside the Ghost functions the author proposes and some other philosophical ideas, it’s worth checking out in case you are curious and want to see the Types more in depth.

I also want to explain some things here I couldn’t go over in the post:

St. Trina is without doubt an ISxP; Daryl’s Personality Types describes the type as “sluggish, slow-moving, and easily getting stuck in a rut,” which fits Trina to a T. The only difficulty I have is the T/F dichotomy and auxiliary function, since she doesn’t have too much screen time. If we go by Miquella’s psychology, she would be an ISTP, but I’m not too sure.

Similarly, Malenia is some sort of ISTx. Due to her character being tied with Rot and movement, she most likely is an ISTP like Trina. The Scarlet Rot, then, also doubles as a primitive and destructive manifestation of Ne, or of external change.

Radhan, for his part, seems to be an ESTP. Funny, considering that he’s completely unlike the “shadow” and “soul” of Miquella.

I mentioned that blood acts as a symbol for Si, which means that the Formless Mother is, in fact, an Si-entity. The “formless” aspect is likely referencing the universality and timelessness of Introversion, instead of being a genuine abstraction like Intuition.

Due to the psychology of the ENxPs, Mogh likely uses the Formless Mother as a symbol and personification of his inferior Si. That means that in his unconscious side, the figure of the Mother still weighs over him, not unlike Morgott.

So, with this all said and done, I’ve to put a disclaimer here: characters don’t have psychological types! While I may seem pretty secure about the typing here, especially with the Extroversion part, most of it is due to, what, the post’s didacticism? Anyway, the point is that my typing here is open to debate. Except the Extroversion part.

Feel free to share your thoughts! :D

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Refraction Railway Line #1 Abnormalities Part 2 (Analysis)

To Forsake One's Self

“A silhouette is observed inside the inflated sack around the chest. -It bears resemblance to a flower, or the central nervous system of a human.” - Meursault, Abnormality’s Observation Log #2.

A headless fish. That’s what the Abnormality is. Like, there’s no way of getting it wrong… Yet, how is it possible to swim so lively without a head? It doesn’t make any sense. Without a head, there’s no way someone can live, let alone be so vigorous...

But if we were to truly believe so, we would be sinning of “anachronism”, just like Faust said in Selva Oscura. After all, we are seeing not a physical entity, but a symbolic one.

The head and the brain are some of the most obvious and well-known symbols for the mind, or better said, for the conscious side of the mind. They are the source of your rationality, of all you are aware of, and what most people would say they really are. However, the conscious “self” or Ego is but a part of the whole psyche, its “rational light” extending only so far into the dark realm of nature or the unconscious, and I’ll be damned if Headless Ichthys’ entire design doesn’t hinge on that:

Its arena is an underwater reef. Needless to say, water itself is one of the de facto symbols of the unconscious, with the underwater environment just being the icing on the cake.

It’s also filled with vegetal life, such as seaweed. Due to their upright position, they could be understood as symbols of psychic development, of the differentiating and creative power within the unconscious.

And finally, the fact that Headless Ichthys is, well, a fish goes back to the idea of unconscious contents being symbolized by animal figures due to their primitiveness. Not always, obviously, but considering how the Ichthys has its head cut… Yeah, primitive it is.

And as I explained before with Watchdog, the unconscious mind is anything but quiet. That explains why the Ichthys splashes and swims with so much energy—that’s the complexes, or the “many intelligences” of the unconscious, in action, of which the Ego is simply the most differentiated or developed. However, a problem emerges with this definition, because it’s too similar to Watchdog, the two being some sort of battered consciousness that has receded into the unconscious. Thankfully, Carl Jung is there to help us once more.

“The egg is a germ of life with a lofty symbolical significance. It is not just a cosmogonic symbol—it is also a "philosophical" one. As the former it is the Orphic egg, the world's beginning; as the latter, the philosophical egg of the medieval natural philosophers, the vessel from which, at the end of the opus alchymicum, the homunculus emerges, that is, the Anthropos, the spiritual, inner and complete man, who in Chinese alchemy is called the chen-yen (literally, "perfect man").” - Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious.

I already quoted this in my theory-prediction about Faust, but the gist is that the Ego emerges from the unconscious in order to know and realize it(self), to reach a state of inner and outer harmony known simply as the Self, the archetype of psychic wholeness that encompasses all that exists—darkness and light, good and evil, the whole of life. It’s not a surprise, then, that such a psychic potency has left its mark in the many cultures across history, with the alchemical motif mentioned above just being one of many examples; others include the Buddha, Christ and his ichthys, God Himself, plants and flowers like the rose and lotus, square or circular mandalas, the firmament, or even time itself.

How all of this psychoanalytic mumbo-jumbo relates to the Abnormality is more than obvious. From the sac that holds the flower-nervous system hybrid to its very name, all points to the Ichthys not being guided by the chaotic storm of Watchdog but by transcendence itself, the unconscious Self of the world safely guarded within its own “womb”, like a fish enveloped by the dark waters of the sea or the homunculus created within the alchemical alembic. This “flower” or even “intelligence” is Ichthys’ own treasure that it wants to keep apart from people, untouchable and protected.

“Perhaps it can splash around more comfortably without that big sac of blood weighing it down? I ask the Sinners to pop its blood sac, but the fish turns aggressive and advances toward us upon hearing my order.” - Abnormality Encounter (“Pop its sac” option).

… However, there’s something that doesn’t fit with the interpretation above. If the sac and its treasure are so important for the Ichthys, to the point it has abandoned its consciousness, why does it use it to attack? Surely it can’t be healthy for the “self” inside, especially when all the affinities related to those attacks are so negative, like Envy (Pressing Sac) and Wrath (Blood Cannon). Even the more (often than not) positive Lust isn’t exempt from that, since “Clotting” is only used once you fail the mid-combat Event, which explicitly states that its sac is just so bloated with blood that its neck is about to shoot blood. But once more, Jung is here to save us!

“The forest, dark and impenetrable to the eye, like deep water and the sea, is the container of the unknown and the mysterious. It is an appropriate synonym for the unconscious. [...] The mighty old oak is proverbially the king of the forest. Hence it represents a central figure among the contents of the unconscious, possessing personality in the most marked degree. It is the prototype of the self, a symbol of the source and goal of the individuation process. The oak stands for the still unconscious core of the personality, the plant symbolism indicating a state of deep unconsciousness.” - Alchemical Studies.

Look at all the seaweeds and fallen trunks in the arena, all the vegetal life that shies away from growing and emerging into the shining surface, from developing themselves… Headless Ichthys’ “terrarium” is a prison, an unconscious “womb” that doesn’t let its “children” see the light of consciousness, and its sac acts the double so, being an actual womb or “alchemical vessel” within the already maternal waters, a warm place that refuses to set free the Self, the most important “flower” of all. This means the Abnormality is, similar to Sign of Roses and Carmen, a twisted and “demonic” manifestation of the Mother archetype: the devouring Mother that ruins and spoils all possible development to avoid suffering.

“There is no birth of consciousness without pain.” - Development of Personality.

Thus, it’s not surprising why “Clotting” is Lust, for the Ichthys surely must feel more than just relief and pleasure when expelling all the blood that was about to burst its sac. Likewise, the Wrath affinity of “Blood Cannon” and the Body’s increasing resistance to said affinity are rooted in the Abnormality’s reaction upon you trying to damage its precious sac, returning all those “offenses” with the anger and fury proper of a possessive mother. But the more it increases its Wrath, the more it fears pain and despair—its weakness to Gloom, despite how it would normally remain controlled and subdued most of the time (see “Blood Sac” passive).

In contrast, the only natural weakness of the Body corresponds to Lust, and just like in KQE’s case, it likely corresponds to the idea of love—of proper love that correctly nurtures and allows the development of the psyche, in contrast to the desperate need of the Ichthys to keep its self sheltered from harm as seen with Don’s Fluid Sac; maybe that explains why the Legs are resistant to Gluttony (despite the complete lack of said skills). And since I mentioned Don here, I think it’s time to clear a possible misconception that may have arisen.

Headless Ichthys doesn’t have anything to do with actual motherhood.

The meaning of the Abnormality is solely related to the smothering of self-development, the deliberate destruction and suppression of the personal identity in order to, apparently, attain a certain treasure. That’s why both Don and Faust have Fluid Sac, because the two of them suppress(ed) their original identities and psychologies in order to follow the “star” they think (or thought, in the near future) they are. Damn! In Sancho’s case, she literally drank from the Lethe so she could be reborn as someone that was explicitly said to be asleep—she dissolved herself in the waters of the unconscious to forget herself. It’s only after she killed Don Quixote, her father, that she truly awakened as such, as marked with the dawn behind her in one of the last CGs.

Coincidentally, the one who wrote the Logs was Meursault, who explicitly said he killed his own mother… I do wonder what kind of parricide awaits us in Faust’s Canto, as if Hong Lu’s wasn’t enough.

Anyway, as I previously stated, Headless Ichthys’ meaning is essentially the sacrifice of the Self (or your sense of identity, if you will) under the erroneous assumption that you can develop and live as yourself under the motherly heat and blood of the unconscious, safely “swimming in a pond” instead of confronting the world (yes, that’s the meaning behind its Encounter). Needless to say, such a perspective is glaringly wrong, and I think this is expressed through the Envy affinity of “Pressing Sac”, for why would the Fish that doesn’t want to be born be envious of those who did, unless, of course, those feelings don’t come from it but from the entity that carries within itself? It doesn’t help that “Pressing Sac” is the only skill that actually uses the sac to attack, despite how dubious the interpretation sounds.

Now, that pretty much is the end of the Abnormality’s “meat”. That doesn’t mean the rest of the parts and skills don’t have any interesting thing; it’s just that they aren't as rich as the Body and the sac, with simple interpretations such as the weakness to Sloth of the Legs and Tail—it’s a fish; it can’t get stuck or lazy while swimming! Meanwhile, the particular weakness to Wrath of the Legs may be related to the idea of rejecting the hand of one’s “mother”, to use the wrath against the compulsion to remain in the “waters”.

“This image is undoubtedly a primordial one, and there was profound justification for its becoming a symbolical expression of human fate: in the morning of life the son tears himself loose from the mother, from the domestic hearth, to rise through battle to his destined heights. [...] His life is a constant struggle against extinction, a violent yet fleeting deliverance from ever-lurking night.” - Symbols of Transformation.

Life is a struggle itself, a constant coming and going between day and night, good and evil, happiness and suffering—those polarities are what make everything alive and the Self whole. Thus, it’s not surprising the beginning of one’s (true) life is violent too, especially with a “mother” (i.e., longing) such as the Ichthys, with its such a strong and gluttonous grip. Maybe there lies the reason for the Pride affinity of “Powerful Clap”, used solely by the Left Leg, with said side belonging to the Tree of Life’s pillar related to the feminine and thus motherhood. In contrast, the much weaker and gloomier “Clap” is used by the Right Leg, and guess what things are related to that Pillar in the Tree? By that matter, LC used this division for the Sephirot’s gender.

Moving into the Tail… Nope, this part beats me. I can somewhat understand the resistance to Lus, since it could be some sort of contrast between the Tail and the Body (and sac), but I don’t have any idea regarding its only skill. The same applies to what the Fluid Sac status exactly entails, unlike the very obvious Blood Sac… Oh, and beyond the obvious reasoning of the endometrium being very rich in blood during pregnancy, I think it’s quite obvious that blood also doubles as a symbol for instinct and thus primitive psychic energy.

“But water is earthy and tangible, it is also the fluid of the instinct-driven body, blood and the flowing of blood, the odour of the beast, carnality heavy with passion.” - Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious.

Water, both as blood and the element as such, is the matrix of all life as a whole, that which impulses every being to their “destined height”. However, in this particular case, the vital essence is held up by the devouring parental imago, the “monster of the depths” that paralyzes all individual development and plants the seeds for future disasters.

“Fatigue is one of the most regular symptoms of loss of energy or libido. The entire process represents something very typical, namely the failure to recognize a moment of crucial importance, a motif which we encounter in a great variety of mythical forms.” - Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious.

That was said in relation to the Muslim story of how Moses met Al-Khidr, more specifically about the part where a fish the prophet and his servant planned to eat escaped. Parallels are more than obvious, with the case of Don, or better said, Sancho—the quiet, cynical, snarky, and extremely loyal child of Don Quixote—being much more interesting than Faust’s, because it tells us a lot about Bloodfiends and even the City and the Head.

It’s quite obvious that from the moment Quixote turned her into a Bloodfiend, all of Sancho’s attention was directed into her new “father”, for her hurt and depressed psyche unconsciously got attached to that infantile conception of security and family—a psychological complex that is best known as the Bloodstream. This means that, in essence, all Bloodfiends have an unconscious but powerful—almost numinous—attachment to their forefathers, filled with reverence, adoration, and fear not unlike those of a kid, hence making it impossible for them to move beyond their infantile psyche that fittingly yearns for things in their grossest, more primitive forms. And just like all the City-dwellers, Quixote, Sancho, and all Bloodfiends desire to feel the vitalizing air and sunlight, the warmth of each other, and to taste and gulp down the forgotten “waters” that nurtured the world itself and from which they have distanced themselves too much… But water and its blue color are too high and lofty for the stunted psyche of the Bloodfiends; it’s a direct betrayal to the Bloodstream that demands complete subservience to the ancestors, to the (likely equally, if not more stunted) Progenitor, and thus their own souls demand the “waters of life” in the same way it does with their desire for connection.

“That the lapis, or in our case the floating sphere, has a double meaning is clear from the circumstance that it is characterized by two symbolical colours: red means blood and affectivity, the physiological reaction that joins spirit to body, and blue means the spiritual process (mind or nous).” - Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious.

This also explains why Dante said Bloodfiends were similar to Distortions, because they both are essentially individual beings consumed and twisted by their own complexes and traumas, just in different ways, which means the City is no different from the Bloodfiends. Be it Fixers, Syndicate members, or Feathers of a Wing, countless organizations and teams have been formed in search of life itself in a land that has forsaken and exiled all the human fantasies, an action done by none other than the ever-watchful and oppressive protector of the nest that the City is.

“Nest: the alchemical vessel. This is the place where the *philosopher’s stone is incubated and generated. A popular symbol for the birth of the Stone is that of the *philosophical bird or chick hatching from the *egg in the nest of the philosophers.” - Dictionary

But where the compulsion of the Bloodstream and Headless Ichthys doesn’t allow people to go beyond their “parents”, the Head has likely styled itself as both the protector and biggest enemy of humanity, the last step that people have to overcome to truly become free—just like Don and Sancho did through Bari’s tales (who happens to be blue, in contrast to the Bloodfiends’ red) and their own adventuring, gaining a new attachment to life beyond what the Bloodstream told them. In fact, Sancho surpassed the Bloodstream’s control to the point she forced herself to drink from the Lethe. But in that, she fell into the same compulsion as before, sinking into the depths of the unconscious with a new “self” that was no different from her previous life: an unconscious child unaware of everything, born of fear.

Thankfully, that wasn’t where Don’s story ended, and she further demonstrated the potential to overcome the Bloodstream and its childish mania through battling her own father without the need of the Helmet of Mambrino. She acquired so many experiences and was filled by them in such a manner that during that last clash she was able to shake off all hesitation and fear to pierce the heart of the source of her life so she could take the reins herself… However, that was only possible due to her naive beginning in the River of Oblivion, washing away all that had happened.

“The sun breaks from the mists of the horizon and climbs to undimmed brightness at the meridian. Once this goal is reached, it sinks down again towards night. This process can be allegorized as a gradual seeping away of the water of life: one has to bend ever deeper to reach the source.” - Symbols of Transformation.

Fundamentally speaking, while the figure of the Mother—and overall family, hence part of the incest taboo according to Jung—is somewhat disagreeable during more or less the first half of one’s life (ignoring childhood, obviously), it’s an indispensable part for the later half, when one’s body becomes rigid and fixated on past achievements instead of coming to terms with the return to the Mother and family, the place of eternal rest. And yes, this is the explanation of why the “splash around together” option in its Encounter heals both HP and SP, and maybe why the Fluid Sac status also heals the Ichthys (though I still don’t have any idea of why the color changes between statuses).

The mother-imago that the Abnormality represents is quite all-encompassing, isn’t it? No matter how hard one tries to fight it, the yearn to give up and be embraced by the watery abyss is always present, and it becomes ultimately a necessity when the consciousness becomes battered and exhausted. That’s the psychological foundation of the many myths, stories, and rituals about rebirth, chief of them the christian baptism and alchemical dissolution (which I already explained). But as always, one can’t loiter there, in that moment of unconscious union with the Mother, unless they get stuck and a psychological disaster befalls them.

Ultimately, the relationship with our family and, above all, our parents is a complex one. This is not even about physical or psychological abuse as such, but about the consequences and impacts they have in our minds. The deficiency of their love, whether it be a lack or excess of it, is one of the heaviest marks possible, and sometimes the fault may not be upon them, but on us—our fears and anxiety that don’t allow us to separate from the psychic impressions of our families and parents.

My Form Empties

“A bell occasionally tolls in the red room. It’s a heavy, subduing sound. The statue is chanting something. You’re unable to recognize its words. But, you feel that whatever it is, is not a joyous thing. There’s a brass ring on the statue’s finger.” - Abnormality Encounter.

Whoever says Buddhism is a simple religion is lying through its teeth. It’s as complicated, if not more so than Christianity, with a rich history and divisions derived from its 2500 years of existence. There’s simply no way for me to explain it shortly and dispel some of the biggest misconceptions around it in such a short post. Nonetheless, I’ll try to make an attempt, because My Form Empties (or MFE and the Bodhisattva for short) really needs it.

Desire is a complex thing. It does drive you to do and accomplish things, yes, but at the same time it fills you with all sorts of expectations and fantasies that do not have any footing in reality. I’m not speaking about such things as equality, kindness, or goodness, but about the fact that desire and obsession can lead you to twist truth itself in order to satisfy itself, to think that some things can or can’t change in order to feel content—not you acting upon your desire, but Lust acting through and possessing you. Thus, it’s not surprising that a lot of old philosophies and even modern ones feel conflicted about it, imposing moral obligations on it or directly forsaking it all together, and chief among them are the dharmic religions that originated in India: Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism.

As the name of the category implies, those 3 religions focus on teaching dharma, which can be broadly understood as the underlying truth of the world and the righteous duties and ways of life derived from it, all in order to extinguish the desires and sufferings that disturb the world, achieving the state known as moksha, or liberation from the fantasies and illusions (maya) born of desire. What this state of freedom entails varies from religion to religion and even from sect to sect, but the main difference resides in that Hinduism and Jainism hold that there’s an eternal and pure self (atman) that experiences the trappings of desire and its illusions, and Buddhism says that the self is those desires and illusions, ergo, that there’s no eternal true self (anatman) but just a constantly shifting awareness born of attachment, and the realization of this and the cessation of attachment and thus of self is called nirvana.

The reason why the dharmic religions are so obsessed with the detachment of desire has to do with diverse theories, but due to the topic at hand, Buddhism holds that desire as a mental factor is the root of all attachment and hence suffering due to the impermanent and non-self nature of the world, and desire is in turn created by ignorance of how the individual self is just a short-lived fragment of the chain of causality or karma. The desire and fear—for they are inexorably connected—over life and death give rise to samsara, or the endless cycle of rebirth, where both the “individual sense of self” (which, again, doesn’t actually exist) and karma perdure, determining the individual and collective future based on the effects of actions and their intention, for the self, desire, and suffering are all equally mental. In other words, as long as you desire, you will suffer and fear; they are one and the same.

Now, it’s obvious why the Karma status has that circular, red shape:

“→ Wait, wait. You forgot that weird ring. (Gregor) → It…gives a strange feeling. I don't know why it comes to us, but when it sticks to the back, it feels...strange. Like a pressure is weighing down on the mind… (Sinclair)” - Abnormality’s Observation Log #2.

Circular because circles don’t have a beginning or an end, just like the chain of causality and the endless knots used to represent it. Red because, like the Bloodstream, karma is a mental compulsion that weighs down and traps the mind. And the felt pressure is the suffering and anguish caused by attachment to the perceived self therein.

The passive related to the Karma status, “Cyclical Karma”, is just an extension of everything I’ve described up to this moment: attachment to karma or causality is the main drive behind most, if not all, actions of all sentient beings, which in reality are nothing but reactions to past happenings. All desires, be it for pleasure or vengeance, are rooted in the ignorant and wrongful idea of a constant self that must be satisfied or protected, and thus karma extends to and encroaches all of creation. A fault, after all, must be punished, right?

By that matter, the passive-caused death when a Sinner reaches 108 Karma is based on the “108 defilements” or sense-states originating from the 6 senses acknowledged by Buddhism (5 senses plus consciousness). Therefore, acquiring 108 Karma means the “mind” of an individual has been overcome with desire and attachment, unable to be rescued by the hands of the Buddha… But wait a minute! That’s not how karma works at all! Besides, why does everyone acquire Karma when MFE does not? Well, to answer that, I need to continue explaining Buddhism's biggest currents: Theravada and Mahayana.

Theravada is the oldest Buddhist school and can be understood as the traditional one since it preserves and follows the “original” teachings of the historic Buddha, Siddharta Gautama; it’s mostly practiced in Southeast Asia, and it has basically died out in its home country of India. For its part, the Mahayana tradition originated as a sect of the Theravada that grew slowly before exploding in China during the 7th or 8th century, where it syncretized with the folk religion and native philosophies of the region before expanding to Korea, Japan, and other nearby countries, where it still remains popular to this day.

These two schools preach more or less the same teachings about attachment and liberation, but they obviously have differences, especially within the Mahayana tradition. In fact, calling Mahayana a “tradition” may be a misnomer, because it’s a collective of hundreds of different schools created by the addition of new philosophies and concepts according to the needs of each country and age. Theravada is not that different, but the division is lesser than in Mahayana’s chaos and madness. Still, if a main difference has to be mentioned, the most important for the analysis is the motivation for becoming an enlightened being (arhat): Theravada posits that one ultimately should strive for reaching nirvana first and foremost, with helping other people being entirely optional, while (most) Mahayana schools preach the “path of the bodhisattva”, that is, vowing oneself to help all sentient beings to attain enlightenment, including oneself. The title of bodhisattva should ring some bells.

“The fake bodhisattva was only biding its time to restore its strength, paying little attention to the confession.” - Mid-Combat Event (Check failure).

That’s to say, MFE is an entity that is committed to help all beings (i.e., the lured enemies) so they can be freed from the eternal cycle of suffering… Or so it appears. Beyond the text (or Dante?) directly calling it a fake bodhisattva, Faust and the game as a whole clearly identify it as a statue or idol of sorts—a murti, or s physical representation of a deity or “saint” created with the sole purpose of being worshipped and prayed upon. This difference is important since it basically defines MFE as a thing or place of worship where anyone can call upon the symbolized bodhisattva for help, and even offer things as a proof of gratitude!

“You place a coin before the grand Buddha Mūrti. With the ceaseless chanting gone, only the hollow echo of the bell bounces off the walls of the chamber. Perhaps the touch of secularity in the face of an emptying form has triggered something.” - Abnormality Encounter (“Place a coin” option).

This hatred for “banal” offerings is also seen in one of its many Wrath skills, “Compulsory Offering”, which is fittingly used only by the Buddha Mūrti part. Needless to say, this behavior is completely unlike that of an actual bodhisattva or compassionate arhat, who would move heaven and earth to help and save sentient beings. Furthermore, while they may not seem to be that useful, offerings are indeed quite helpful; they can help during meditation and the burning of mental “poisons” (such as fear, anger, pride, wrong beliefs, etc.), or simply allow one to express gratitude and gather “good” karma for one’s next life. There’s no reason or need for an actual bodhisattva to be angry, no matter if the offering is a mere coin, unless said person has bias (i.e., wrong beliefs) and thus desires…

By all means, My Form Empties can’t be further away from being an actual bodhisattva, with all of its skills and resistances showing that one way or another. In fact, it’s telling that it doesn’t resist any Sin affinity when another “religious” Abnormality did exactly that (Spiral of Contempt), with the sole exception being Lust, and considering its propensity for anger and retribution, it obviously doesn’t speak about the natural compassion of enlightened beings. What I mean is that, despite how much it chants sutras and mantras to empty itself, the Abnormality remains attached to its own self-love, comparable to Skin Prophet’s, as it attempts to save only itself, as the results of failing the Event’s check say: by brainwashing people, MFE can resolve and impart its own karma into others.

“Empty oneself by verbalizing one’s thoughts. Expel everything within so that nothing remains. That is the statue’s way of forgetting the self. You sense yourself disappearing as well.” - Abnormality Encounter (“Listen Closer” check failure).

The Sinners and Dante weren’t forgetting themselves because the Bodhisattva’s teachings were good; they did so because they were filled by its own actions and intentions. It’s no coincidence that the only way to pass the previous check is through the team having an average SP equal to or greater than 0—mental stability to confront the cultish behavior of MFE and transform them into something useful. The lured enemies, however, weren’t that lucky, and maybe that’s why they were chosen and are constantly healed (their passive’s name, “Bhaishajya”, literally means “medicine”), because they could offer something more than an empty coin thanks to their broken, hurt minds.

Now, I can certainly give a conclusion regarding the Abnormality’s meaning, but I still think there’s some elements of interest that merit some more analyzing, such as the passives or attack patterns :) And besides, I want to yap some more about Buddhism

Beginning with the passives, the most important one to understand is “Nirmana”, whose name comes from one of the Three “Bodies” or Trikaya of Buddha, an important concept of the Mahayana tradition. Basically, it expresses the all-encompassing nature of Buddhahood, which “exists” (to the extent the word can apply) everywhere and everywhen, from the ineffable dharmakaya (“true body”) of the Buddha, which embodies the emptiness inherent to all phenomena, to its nirmanakaya (“manifested body”), which exists as a material projection that grows and dies as it teaches about dharma to sentient beings. This means the Buddha Murti is a creation that can be manifested as many times as the Abnormality wishes, while its true core or essence resides as an actual brain or self within the Stone Seat, because MFE only becomes anatman once the Murti is destroyed—the only thing that remains is the angry and fearful “ground of being”, pure action unbounded by the apparent self.

Really, the most bodhisattva-like thing MFE does is its mental training and focus, or dhyāna, which is a mental disposition during meditation that tries to burn out all mental distractions and poisons in order to detach the mind of the world—to extinguish oneself. It’s no surprise that it can halve all negative statuses when used as a skill, independent of how paradoxical it is that its affinity is Lust, nor that it can grant 10 Protection to each part as a passive… until all of its lured allies are killed and it has to come out from its meditation to protect itself, which makes doubt my original statement.

Moving into the skills and their distribution, I think it’s important to begin with a small description of the Buddha Murti, just for the irony, because beyond the actual Buddhist crown it’s wearing (which is seemingly Tibetan, not Mahayana), it’s doing two particular mudras with its hands: the shuni mudra in the right, and (possibly) the chinmaya mudra in the left.

The shuni mudra, as its name indicates, is related to the idea of sunyata, or the emptiness of all phenomena; it’s believed that doing this hand gesture helps to reach a better, deeper state of patience and equanimity during meditation. The chinmaya mudra is the hand gesture that’s “full of knowledge/awareness”, and from what I understand, it’s supposed to help with bringing awareness over one’s body and mind.

Now, while I do have some knowledge about Buddhism, I can’t say the same about mudras or yogic traditions, so I’m not sure about my previous descriptions. But if they are true, the two mudras fit with the overall theme of the Abnormality, which is trying to empty its being and body, and also adds to the irony, since the Buddha Murti’s skills are all Wrath-based with 1 exception, “Expound Sutras”, which is Lust and thus may be understood as the only actual good (but not selfless) thing it has done: supporting and motivating its followers through chanting the teachings of dharma. However, this good deed is overshadowed altogether by the other 3 skills:

I already explained “Compulsory Offering”, but I’m repeating it since it complements another Wrath skill, “Sluggard Waker”. The two focus on inflicting Karma based on the Bodhisattva’s judgment, showing once more that it has certain preferences and biases regarding its followers: it wants proactive people that offer their own lives in service to it.

The last one is “Prajñāpāramitā”, named after the Mahayana concept of “perfect wisdom”, the awareness and understanding of reality as it is and without attachment, proper of all realized arhats. The fact that it’s a Wrath skill and it punishes those who have the most Karma clearly shows the title is sarcastic.

It’s also important to note that all of these skills are related to teaching “dharma” to people and “protecting” it in the form of punishing those who have gone astray, akin to how the wrathful or fierce deities act in Mahayana, though that may be how it wants to be perceived and/or disguise its out-of-character moments. At any rate, the nature of the skills fits with the idea of the Murti itself being the nirmanakaya of the Abnormality, a manifestación created with the sole purpose of spreading its teachers to solve the karma of its “dharmakaya”, its true self that resides as a self-aware brain inside the Stone Seat glued to the ground—the least Buddhist and spiritual thing possible.

Anyway, in contrast to the Murti, the Stone Seat uses only Lust skills that are solely focused on it and are mental in nature: “Mahāsrī”, “Svāhā”, and the previously explained “Dhyāna”. If this last skill is the mental state in which the brain inside the Seat is, then the other two are in what it focuses on: “Mahāsrī” is likely based on the Mahāsrī Sutra, which states that one will be granted divine protection and fortune by reciting the 12 names of the goddess Mahāsrī (an epithet of Lakshmi); and “Svāhā” is named after the word used to signal the end of each recited mantra that, in this case, should correspond to the 12 of Mahāsrī, indicating the readiness of the Abnormality to finally take action (i.e., 3 Damage Up). Again, all of this is further proof of the inherent cowardice and self-centeredness of the Abnormality, especially because the Seat only starts to use “Mahāsrī” and “Svāhā” once its “gross body” is destroyed and becomes anatman.

When you get to it, My Form Empties’ entire being seems tempting, no? A bodhisattva-like figure that promises to release you from your pain, that won’t forsake and abandon you midway. Even the mid-combat Event references this, the illusion of a peaceful emptiness that embraces all without exception. Wouldn’t that be sweet? To reach that final blow that puts an end to the flame? But it should be obvious at this point that, just like Glupo and STNOWC, it’s impossible for just one being to carry all those sins. Even arhats like the Buddha didn’t do that, and waited for sentient beings to open up to their teachings instead, for doing otherwise would be a desire, an attachment.

“However, no man can wholly shoulder another’s suffering in their stead. Before we all are allured by its false compassion, someone has to break the statue.” - Mid-Combat Event.

Even when the Buddha found and converted the mass murderer Angulimala, he didn’t force the latter to follow him and waited until Angulimala himself regretted his actions and decided on his own to become a monk. This example is so wholly unlike My Form Empties’ behavior that it could very well be its own terrace on Mount Purgatorio, and hence it perfectly represents the failure itself of the fake Bodhisattva: no matter how much it recites sutras and asks for the help of higher beings, not even the Buddha can save it as long as it holds onto its desires, to the twisted pleasure and release of pushing its red and bloody karma into others. Neither its form nor self will ever become empty, because it’s psychologically bound to it, unlike Angulimala, who quietly and firmly accepted his own lynching, for he became an arhat too, unbounded by and detached from karma.

Furthermore, the EGO coming from MFE just spits into the Abnormality’s self even more, because it’s named after the most famous quote of the entire Mahayana school: “Emptiness is Form”, where “Form” is the ever-shifting self of the phenomena that’s nothing but one moment among the endless transformations within the cycle of causality, happenings, retributions, ignorance, identification, and attachment—the very own poison against which the Bodhisattva fell, and so did Heathcliff and Outis.

“Do I even deserve to speak as humans do? I, who killed Catherine… You, who deprived me of Catherine… Must be a thing lesser than a savage beast. Then… why should I even keep pretending to be human when I am not? If they were right... that if I really were to become nothing more than a howling, savage beast…” - Heathcliff, Chapter 34: The Beast, Canto VI.

“No matter what lurks in the pasts of us Sinners...? Even... if they have killed hundreds, thousands—no, tens of thousands of innocent people? Will you still... embrace them?” - Outis, The Carousel (The Tale of a Great Fixer Who Once Reached for The Dream) , Canto VII.

Those 2 Sinners and the Abnormality all present the same problem that I’ve commented on so much that I’ve become sick of it: attachment to karma and desire that leads to the false belief that there’s a constant self within one’s past and (wrong)doings, which in turn creates one’s future. Some may blindly accept it, thinking of themselves as unable to break the cycle of violence and suffering that has built them, and others may desire to escape it, without understanding that such a thing still is attachment and thus unconscious identification, leading to an ignorant and paradoxical longing for the status of an arhat. But that’s not what Buddhism is at all, for the single realization that actually matters is the same one that Angulimala—killer of children, elderly, women, and men—achieved: karma doesn’t define you, for it constantly changes, and so does the self.

Ultimately, there’s no one and nothing to forgive, for there is no self. You don’t have any obligation to be the same person you were even 1 second ago, for better or worse.

Post-Commentary

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I'm not doing this kind of extravaganza ever again. I'm not referring to the analyses, of course, but doing these monstrosities back to back with no rest xD And yeah, I knew I said these 2 Abnos were going to be dense, but I didn't think it would be this level of dense... But alas, everything to give a nice Christmas gift!

Anyway, beginning with Headless Ichthys, I know now why it was paired with Watchdog: the two are deeply tied to analytical psychology in some way. But with the focus on the complexes and parental issues, I think it's worth clarifying something with regard to a certain Sinner: Sinclair.

While the underlying meaning behind the Ichthys can apply to our little twink, it's not in the same manner as Don and Faust, for it's not a question if he will hatch or not, but when. The entirety of Canto III expresses his deep drive to act and rise from his “nest”, and all posterior stories show how imperious that necessity is to the point of violence, with the most recent case (Canto VII) being a more than welcome evolution of such an anger. This is the entire reason why Demian is interested in him, why Kromer acquired the form of a vagina dentata (she was a manifestation of the devouring Mother, which yes, it means N Corp. Sinclair is very much like Sancho and Faust, even having the 2 main affinities of Fluid Sac in his kit: Gloom and Lust), and why Sansón chose him to play Bari, the guide and alchemist of Don after the incident of La Manchaland.

Speaking now about the relationship between Bari and Sancho, it’s quite interesting that the two are women when the “night sea journey” and “reaching for the stars” are more often than not masculine narratives (see Joseph Campbell’s The Hero with a Thousand Faces, for example): the masculine Ego separating from the primitive and feminine unconscious symbolized by a wicked woman, dragon, or similar aquatic animals in order to establish himself and the world, to earn a treasure, or even save a damsel. By that matter, this latter duality of womanhood speaks of the differentiation between the Mother archetype and the Anima (in men; it’s the Father archetype and the Animus in women), so to avoid the pitfall of confronting every woman (or man) they met as their mother (or father), which is the likely cause of the subtextual incest in these kinds of stories… which is surprisingly lacking in Sancho’s case too! Kudos to Project Moon here for adapting the overall skeleton of the story and skipping the parts that most would find off-putting, because anyone else would have added them, especially with vampires (they have an undeniable erotic element, whether you like it or not).

Regarding the divagation about the Bloodfiends’ nature, I skipped certain someone that, unlike Don and her still warm-color palette, is completely dressed in blue and very obviously old, wishing to rest once and for all. So while Don is still tied somewhat to the Bloodstream, Sansón has completely broken free from it in true fashion as a bearer of the Mark of Cain, the first parricide. Nonetheless, it is still worth celebrating the two Bloodfiends have freed themselves from the cursed blood “that is thicker than water”.

And finally, I focused mostly on Sancho and the Bloodfiends because we know more about them than about Faust at the moment. But that doesn’t mean the little “witch” doesn’t have her own moments:

“Faust: It is fortunate that someone like yourself is aboard the train. Your presence ensured that child's survival. Sasha: Whatcha talkin' about all of a sudden? C'mon, no need to keep up appearances between people in the same line of work.” - Chapter 20(5): MultiCrack Office, Murder on the Warp Express.

However, there’s a difference between Don/Sancho and Faust: the former’s main colors are yellow and red, of the rising sun and blood, while Faust’s are pink and white, which are softer shadows (well, not really, but bear with me) of Don’s colors. What that implies is beyond me, but they are still a far cry from the blue’s spirituality.

Now, regarding My Form Empties... No, surprisingly I don't have anything else to comment beyond one single thing: what the actual fuck is supposed to be Bloody Gadget? Like, it's not a ring, and instead of being in MFE's right hand, it's actually on the background (or something similar to it, at least. I don't know). I tried to search for similar icons, symbols, and objects, but there was no luck. So if you know, please, feel free to comment what it is.

Oh, and I also didn't comment about the Sin affinities in the MD Encounter just because it's easy to understand: Lust and Gluttony are utilized as symbols for desire in general, and thus a gluttonous and/or lustful individual is blind and deaf enough to ignore whatever MFE tries to do. The world seriously doesn't respect it xD

So with all of this said and done, happy holidays!

#limbus company #refraction railway #refraction railway 1 #canto vii spoilers #abnormalities #Headless Ichthys #My Form Empties #technically speaking spoilers up to canto vii

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Refraction Railway Line #1 Abnormalities Part 1 (Analysis)

Madness.

Simply put, there’s no better way to describe the first Refraction Railway ever released, and not without good reason. We can’t really expect a forced “patchwork” made of several possibilities coming from 3 Sinners to make sense, can we? Project Moon surely just threw whatever they thought interesting to the wall to see what stuck.

However…

“Embracing the madness is a necessary step for humans to move forward.” - Lunacy’s Flavour Text.

I stated in my second analysis of RR2, in Sign of Roses’ section, that accepting madness is to admit the limitations of the conscious mind, that things are just so vast and complex that there’s no way for us to fully understand them, let alone predict them. Life’s essence is rooted in uncertainty, and so is humanity. To separate them is to mutilate and destroy both, and to deny the life that madness wishes for is to increase its power over you.

So… who knows? Maybe there’s something there, a thread we can’t fathom, just like how life is. To try to say something with utter confidence and “rationality” is just as irrational as the opposite. The only true difference is your own disposition to admit and be conscious about it.

And thus, honoring its name, let’s try to find meaning in that which is unknowable and uncertain by definition.

“A symbol always presupposes that the chosen expression is the best possible description or formulation of a relatively unknown fact, which is none the less known to exist or is postulated as existing.” - Psychological Types.

Misery Loves Company

“In any case, we now know why dragging on doesn't do us any favor. I felt like I was being dragged deeper into the swamp of gloom as the fight went on.” - Ishmael, Abnormality’s Observation Log #3.

Glupo is one of the strangest Abnormalities ever, but not because of its meaning, no. Its weirdness solely comes from the effects of its EGOs and EGO gifts, which literally have nothing to do with the actual mechanics of its fight, notwithstanding the actual logic of the former two. A weird little guy, all in all.

Anyway, moving into its meaning… Really, there’s no way to get it wrong: a Trauma Abnormality with skills that are exclusively Gloom-based, and a blue resin defined as Gloom itself that fills the arena and escapes from its body once its eyes are broken. To say that Blubbering Toad represents anything but depression (or any other deep-seated sorrow) is wishing to “not fit in” on purpose.

However, if you pay attention to some details present in its Mirror Dungeon Encounter (not battle) and Observation Logs, it becomes obvious that Glupo isn’t a representation of depression per se, but of a certain perspective over it: the Abnormality doesn’t just want to wallow in its misery, but also to be heard and seen.

“An eyeball belonging to the toad was on its tongue. When we picked it up, it blinked its other eye at us before going on its way. Was that its thanks for lending an ear?” - Abnormality Encounter (“Sit and Wait” option).

This necessity for someone to at least hear it is seen many times, both during its actual fight and its Encounter, with the Sinners and Dante wondering whether they should interrupt Glupo’s crying or let it finish. And considering that it heals back some or many of the deployed IDs to full SP in case you fail the check of the “mimic the cry” option shown below, which is determined only by the average SP of the team, it’s obvious what it truly wants.

“‘Cruh-huh, croohoo.’ The toad makes a different noise as if to answer. It sounds like an affirmative reply. It extracts its long blue tongue, snatching a person from our group. Sometime later, they walked back out of its mouth. They seemed drenched… in moisture, or gloom.”

No matter what Glupo does or to what place it moves, its despair will chase it forever, for the true crux of its problem lies inside—the “gloom resin” that fills its body and that melts its own eyes. It’s completely fruitless to get angry at it and fight off its sadness, and so it’s to comfort it lovingly, because Glupo simply knows such things won’t work. Its essence is that of Gloom manifested after all, an endlessly dark dampness that crushes and taints everything it touches, and one that the Toad doesn’t have any way to free itself from.

Without escape and without rest, Glupo’s only solace as an Abnormality resides in others’ acknowledgment of its pain, that someone will hear its cries one day and maybe—just maybe—will remain by its side in an attempt not to make it better, but as an attentive, non-judgemental ear.

“I wonder what would've happened we just waiting until it's finished crying? No, I'm not saying we should try it. I don't see it being efficient, either. It's just... I remember someone doing the same for me a long time ago, and it helped me back then.” - Ishmael, Abnormality’s Observation Log #3.

The sadness and emptiness inside one’s heart may never disappear, and all the attempts at soothing it may be fruitless. But the short-lived relief that’s born at the moment your visceral cries are heard—that you and your suffering are finally seen—is so much more precious than any other thing, because it means that someone is willing to share the pain you thought was unbearable, and we all know that the only way no one will have to cry ever again is to share our curses. The Abnormality is no exception, willing to help you to its own detriment once you lend it the companionship it yearns for.

Yet, it’s because of that very same dependence on people that Glupo becomes vulnerable to the thorns that poison relationships too, the bitterness that leads people to resentfully think that someone else is receiving the attention they think they themselves need, and the resulting self-pity and doubt over one’s predicament. It’s very different from the seeming indifference the Toad holds for the Wrath, Lust, and even Pride of the Sinners, which in turn reinforces the empathy it has shown during all its apparitions and that it earnestly hopes will be returned to it.

Depression surely is a terrifying thing, isn’t it? Melancholy, sorrow, agony, despair, emptiness… Being so deep in the abyss of such emotions, wishing more than anything for someone—anyone—to be by your side, isn’t something I want other people to experience. But if there’s no other way, if you have already ventured too far into the dark cave, then it’s important to remember something: humans are not meant to be alone; even in desolate silence, companionship is nothing short of salvation.

A "Leashed" Dog

“This creature was like a living battery. Collecting lightning in its body, it used the power to fuel itself. Alas, its usage of the lightning's energy was not for a self-motivated purpose such as pursuit of strength; the accumulated electric forces appeared to dictate its motion, giving me the impression that it was the will of the sky that it followed.” - Yi Sang, Abnormality’s Observation Log #3.

Have any of you seen the movie Frankenstein? The one that showed how electricity was the element that animated the Creature? Yes? Perfect, then, because everyone should know such a thing never happened in the original book. The “electricity” was just a cinematic adaptation of the “vital principle” that Dr. Frankenstein discovered, akin to God’s “secret”. However, for Project Moon, there seems to be no difference between the two things as implied by Yi Sang.

But then one must ask what “divine” will or power is represented through said electricity. For that, we have to look at two elements that I’ve already gone over in my previous analyses.

The first one is related to another Abnormality with purple lightning, Dreaming Electric Sheep. There’s not much to comment on here thanks to how obvious the symbolism is, but I want to emphasize something about its environment: the lightning comes from the dark and chaotic sky, from the “liminal world” that the Sheep lives in. This world is our second element, being an adequate symbol for the source of all dreams and vitality: the realm of the dreaming, unconscious God, the source of the “spirit" or psychological spark that enlivens the mind (and body).

Regarding the nature of the unconscious mind… I’ll have to explain it once more since it’ll be important later on. But basically, the unconscious, as theorized by Carl Jung, is divided into two levels: a personal layer, proper to the individual, and a deeper, more collective one that underlies the former. While they do have their own peculiarities and differences, their point in common is that they are the matrix of life, the source of all “psychic” energy and change, as well as their limitations and possibilities. To say that the domain of the divine is the unconscious, while blasphemous, isn’t inaccurate, yet one must take care not to assume they are “asleep” or—even worse—“dead” just because of said unconsciousness.

“As an autonomous psychic factor, Wotan produces effects in the collective life of a people and thereby reveals his own nature. For Wotan has a peculiar biology of his own, quite apart from the nature of man. It is only from time to time that individuals fall under the irresistible influence of this unconscious factor. [...] It seizes everything in its path and overthrows everything that is not firmly rooted. When the wind blows it shakes everything that is insecure, whether without or within.” - Carl Jung, Essay on Wotan.

The wilderness and madness of the “divine” is best seen with the Erlking, who is identified as the Devil by Nelly, and what is the Devil but another name for the stormy unconscious personified by Wotan-Odin? What I meant is that the Erlking—Heathcliff himself—was the tempest that tore apart Wuthering Heights personified, the culmination of the accumulated pain engraved in the very mansion and without which its residents couldn’t survive—the master, the scapegoat, the “source” of all evil. He was the manifestation of the spark and winds that pushed everyone and allowed them to live, despite being no different from corpses only held together by the resentment that flourished deep within them.

At the end, no one should be prideful enough to think of themselves as friends or equals of the “heavens”. At most, we are just toys and slaves of our superiors’ unpredictable wants. Such is the logic behind Alleyway Watchdog, who has given up entirely on its autonomy and dignity as an individual being, breathing and living to the whims of its unconscious master—succumbing to its own smallness. Naturally, I don’t think I have to point out how a watchdog connects to this idea, right?

With that part clear, it’s obvious why the Abnormality has both Envy and Sloth skills, with a body at the complete mercy of that psychological and capricious lightning received by the Telepole. Thus, more curious are its Pride and Lust skills, “Howl” and “Claw” respectively, that point to how succumbing to its own drives and instincts was something the Watchdog did on its own. There is no grandiose sense of duty behind all the mutilations, pain, and discharges, only resignation and loss of all self-control, becoming no more than a devil that lacks any sort of shame even during its most beastly expressions.

Overindulgence and loss of control are also present in Fairy Gentleman and Sign of Roses by that matter. But whereas the Fairy still has a humanoid identity and form, enough to reign over itself momentarily, the human effigy in the other two Abnormalities is beyond disfigured, near the brink of extinction, as it is representative of the collapse of rationality. And while Sign of Roses is a manifestation of a twisted divine love, Watchdog is the epitome of submission towards said “love”, lacking any semblance of self-determination and responsibility for just as God created and commands you, the “torment” acts through and seizes you without asking.

Towards the heavens and God, there’s no answer or question, only blind obedience. You just have to look at Faust and her relation with the Gesellschaft, the temptation offered by Mephistopheles the Devil, who originally presented himself as a black dog in Goethe’s novel. Or Sancho and her nature as a Bloodfiend that demands her to follow the Bloodstream, to the point she wasn’t able to stop herself when commanded to leave La Manchaland (though Rocinante did help with that). And I don’t think I have to go over Heathcliff’s case after my explanation about the Erlking, though I find it noteworthy to mention just how typical his portrayal of emotions as a storm truly is—nothing more classical than a Byronic hero!

And to end the analysis, I want to highlight how the Abnormality’s weakness to Pride and resistance to both Gloom and Envy show that, again, the Abnormality accepted this on its own, without complaint or sadness for its nature as mere marionette for something “higher” and more “primal”; it refuses to stand up and claim its own being, like most would have done. In contrast, the Body’s and Telepole’s particular weaknesses to Sloth reflect once more his inability to refuse the heavens’ whims, while the vulnerability to Wrath of the Person and Head does so with the classical trope of raging against the above, awakening the squashed soul with its own kind of “vital spark”.

At this point, I don’t think a final remark is needed. I’ve already gone over this topic a couple of times before, and the question remains the same: is it truly worth it to completely relinquish oneself to the soul and its inner storm, to be no more than a rabid beast that doesn’t know any better?

Please, Don’t Call It “Dumbass”

“A smile is displayed on the terminal, but in the robot’s gestures, you feel a plea for help.” - Abnormality Encounter.

Okay, I give up with this one. I don’t have the slightest idea of what the Robot means. The only thing I know is that it wants to be anywhere but in its “town”, so please, don’t call him “dumbass” :(

…

Okay, in all seriousness, I have an idea of what KQE stands for, but the lack of EGOs and the vague nature of the “town” makes the Abnormality difficult to analyze. Still, if I had to put my life on the line, then…

“<There must have been an issue with the tour program.> After printing those words, the robot stood still for a while. Just when you started to wonder if it was broken, the terminal flashed. <No response after multiple requests to the Administrator.> <System Error. System Error.> <Rebooting…> After that, it kept throwing up complicated words on a blue screen.” - Abnormality Encounter (“Tell it you took a tour” option).

The City is still using Windows

Abandonment. Complete and utter isolation after being transformed into an unrecognizable monster and used as such.

However, even though the “administrator” and “townsfolk” have completely abandoned it alongside the “town”, KQE continues to fulfill its role and protect the latter all alone. The Heart of the Townsfolk that appears once the Robot’s claw is avoided? Don’t be fooled by the name; the Heart is its own, as they do not only share the same traits and Sin affinities but also have their HP bars connected thanks to the Heart’s passive, which causes KQE to take damage and become staggered once it’s destroyed. All of this means that the Abnormality is the last of the “townsfolk”, the only one who makes sure to keep the forsaken ghost town functioning in spite of its agony and despair.

“The claw was a pretty big bother to get around, but when we cut into that thing somehow, that tin can stopped moving! Haha, that sure gave us a breather. …Well, it might be because the heart belonged to the robot.” - Gregor, Abnormality’s Observation Log #3.

Another interesting detail to note is how the (only) trait KQE and the Heart have, Mechanical Amalgam, is only shared with the MultiCrack Office IDs and enemies. And if we go by Heathcliff’s Uptie story of said Office below, then…

“Grabbing piping-hot items without hesitation. Walking for hours upon hours without ever getting tired. It was those little things, those minor details, that have been making the child feel a sense of alienation ever since he replaced most of his body with prosthetic parts. [...] Days rolling, clicking by like cogs in a machine. The child was merely growing used to that kind of life. The life in the City.”

Mind you, I’m not sure how applicable this loss of emotions is to other MultiCrack Fixers due Sasha’s attitude during MotWE, but it’s still worth considering how reminiscent of KQE’s situation it is. Besides, this kind of abstract meaning is somewhat in line with the rest of Abnormalities that share the “06” classification code: Steam Transport Machine, whose existence is basically the past given physical form; 1.76 MHz, a Trauma Abnormality that stems from PTSD (likely from the Smoker War veterans); and and Nothing There, an Original Abnormality that represents the emptiness that has assaulted the city, one of the many consequences of the “sickness of the mind”. All of this, unironically, tells us a lot about the Abnormality:

Speaking about Nothing There, it’s extremely important to highlight how its code is almost identical to KQE’s. This was likely intentional on Project Moon’s part; they want us to connect the emptiness or alienation that the two of them represent.

Thus, the true nature of KQE, as per the rest of "06" Abnormalities, is abstract, not physical. More specifically, in a very similar way to NT, it likely originated as a “void” or some sort of abstract thing that people filled with flesh and machinery.

Finally, considering it’s a mechanical amalgam in the same way as the MultiCrack Office Fixers (and the “heretics” pursued by N Corp.’s Inquisition), the effects of technology has on the human body and psyche is a fundamental part of its meaning as well.

While Project Moon has been mostly impartial regarding the overall idea of prosthetics and technological implants, it’s obvious they aren’t blind to the debates over them and their possible consequences. The MultiCrack Office is just the most recent case “against”, but prior to them was Canto III (sort of), and even before it was the Brotherhood of Iron in LoR. All of them point both at the real and perceived risks of technological transhumanism, which are the basis of KQE… Or better said, technological transhumanism is the consequence of KQE’s meaning—an amalgam of flesh and technology created to satisfy the emptiness inside to no avail, the result being a clunky, misshapen, and simply useless monstrosity.

Basically, what the Abnormality tells you is that the root of your (psychological) suffering doesn’t lie in the outside, but within your own soul. It’s not about trying to imitate someone else like Nothing There or to modify your body like KQE, because in both cases you are simply running away from your fundamental essence, from the thing that rightfully can be called your own self. You just need to see how miserable KQE is, with all of its skills being either Gloom- or Envy-based, to know that altering your body to soothe your fears isn’t really the path to happiness (especially if those modifications are old as fuck).

Now, to finish things here, let’s go over KQE’s last relevant element: its Sin resistances. The first ones correspond to its two weaknesses, Gloom and Lust, which imply that KQE is weak to… despair and love, as if its entire Encounter in the MDs didn’t show already how deep in pain and agony the Abnormality is. Anyway, moving to the resistances as such, we have both Wrath and Envy, which are quite self-explanatory, aren’t they? KQE has already gone beyond the “despair event horizon”, and none of your resentment, rejection, and anger will ever compare to the hell it dug for itself.

… Okay, maybe KQE does deserve to be called a “dumbass” somewhat.

Post-Commentary

Ahh, finally I can post this. I really wasn't lying with KQE being hard to analyze. I was stuck on it for like 1 or 2 weeks because I had problems trying to just understand what it was about. Really, I'm still not convinced of what I wrote, so if you have any idea, share it! Anything is welcome here xD

Now, regarding the organization of the posts, I was originally planning to publish the analysis of the 5 Abnos together... But Headless Ichthys happened, and I don't doubt MFE is going to be as dense as the Fish. So to avoid making an even worse wall of text, I decided to divide them in 3 and 2. I'll likely use this for any post with 5 Abnos from now on (otherwise, it'll be half and half).

Anyway, moving into some curiosities, something I didn't comment was about the alternating resistances to Gloom and Wrath of Glupo's eyes. It's a reference to Ishmael’s commentary at the beginning of the third Log: the left eye is dedicated to physical damage, therefore making it resistant to “physical attacks” (Wrath) and weak to “mental anguish” (Gloom); the right eye, focused on sanity loss, is the opposite.

Other interesting thing is how there seems to be a parallel between Glupo, the Tearful Thing, and STNOWC, if we go by the quote of Sinclair’s Cavernous Wailing. I’m not sure of the implications, or if it even was on purpose, but it’s worth highlighting.

Other thing I find curious was how Telepole's theme fits with Ishmael. More parallels between her and Heathcliff, I suppose.

Also, it’s funny Telepole always uses Wrath and Envy - resentment against others and oneself - with a third Sin affinity, which changes according to the Sinner: Gloom for Don, to represent how her deep sorrow over what happened with La Manchaland and original Don Quixote (unconsciously) guided her; and so is Lust for Heathcliff, embodying his (multi-)universal love for Catherine. Faust uses Lust too, and much more than Heathcliff by that matter…

And as last thing since it was released long afterward I finished Watchdog's section, but the check affinities of its new Encounter are pretty obvious: Pride and Envy because, seriously, those telepoles look goddamn fine! Oh, and they are kind of wasted in the dog anyway.

So, now with all finished, and ignoring the obvious disclaimer of spelling, grammar, and different interpretations, let's go for the 2nd part!

(Please kill me)

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