#bg3 druge

[halichor]

All I wanted was to make ref sheets for Jehan and Karythos, but these count too I guess qwq

[houseofbatsstuff]

just wanted to show off my beautiful new redeemable durge tav -- she's a white drow named Yavanna

Idk if i should do redemable durge wyll romance with her or evil durge gale romance where we both become gods

[grapecaseschoices]

This is Isyl, Amryl's sibling!

Originally my plan for Isyl was that Isyl [I haven't decided on pronouns lmao. Leave me alone. Isn't telling me what Isyl is. Isyl exists. Isyl is Durge jkjk ..... Isyl's pronouns are Cleric [of Lathander]!] was that Isyl was either raised by an off-shoot of lawful good/neutral Duerges that learned about Lathander [family members maybe?] or kidnapped by one, so basically kinda cult? BUT THEN I got the idea of Isyl was stolen by the Society of Brilliance.

But then I got this great idea of testing Isyl out as a durge, and now here we are. OG Isyl was very very sweet, despite loss of memories [or maybe because of] -- but duerge's have too many good asshole responses so this might change. IDK we shall see. I haven't played Isyl as much after I decided to shuffle my polyam plans from Isyl to Amryl.

[sadmages]

On their way to collect 7 clown body parts

[mercer-frey]

Note from the pov of durge pre-memory loss, regarding admiration for Gortash.

it's called 'Prayer for Forgiveness'

[theameba1436]

I have set a goal for how many chapters I want act 1 to be. Even figured out how much smut to put in it. Now I just have to write it all hahha

[astarionsknife]

My wife and I have been discussing Ascended Astarion and how the fandom seems to view him (since she recently ascended him in her durge run) and here are some main points:

He's pretty cringe and edgy

He seems to have lost braincells along with his soul

He's different than a true vampire, so we can't fully base all his actions on that lore

Outside of bg3 there seems to be no records on what an ascended vampire is in DND lore (from what we've found)

Even so, for true vampires it says that their love turns into obsession (debatable to us if this is a good or bad thing. We love obsession)

He does turn you into a vampire and we're confused as to how people seem to think he doesn't (he bites you and let's you drink his blood)

People are allowed to love AA

[spicywhenspeaking]

My rancid blood whispers to me: kill, kill, and kill again. My ruined body yearns to reap death in this world, and when this foul Urge calls, it possesses my whole being. Injured beyond repair, I know nothing besides this: I must resist the Dark Urge, lest it consume my mind. I must discover who I was, and what happened to me. Before my twitching knife-hand writes a tragedy in blood.

masterlist

[lalalalalalakakakak]

[astarionstears]

Imagine you’re romancing karlach as the dark urge and then you go to gortash’s coronation:

“My nearest and dearest”

*Meanwhile karlach giving them the side eye in the background*

[gh0stlymoth]

Astarion and me walking into battle with our matching "True Love's Caress" & "True Love's Embrace" wedding bands we stole from some skeletons like 💏

[abaddonoblack]

I can't save anything in bg3 (at the time of fighting katharic(?) thorm) Im trying everything and I mean EVERYTHING I already uninstalled and installed it (which took almost 4h) I'm trying to fix the files with what larian studio recommended but nothing works.

I feel like I'm going to cry. Rn I'm trying one of the last options and I have no clue what will I do if it won't be right.

[tutti-says]

ReRe: Sexuality, labeling theory, and accepting your own ignorance in BG3 fandom

One thing I have learned in my life is to,well, learn. Discourse over companion sexuality surged on Twitter at a time I just happened to be on yesterday. As I preached my own QT about the characters being playersexual, I happened upon a tweet about this word being bi/pan phibic due to its history.

While I was confused, I took my post down and decided to find out the root instead. I began my usual route: asking questions and running a search on google. To me at a surface understanding, the term playersexual encompassed the gambit of all sexualities-allowing the player character (PC) to choose whomever they wish to romance. For those who are unfamiliar- BG3 is a dnd set CRPG where the PC is able to engage in romantic interactions. The more special part of BG3 is that these romances can play a substantial part in the overall story of your playthrough. And as most of the western hemishphere probably knows the name Astarion, it suffices to say that these companions and possible romances are important to the playerbase. Though the numbers aren't in yet, there is a sizeable chunk of queer persons involved in the BG3 fandom and it only takes a cursory glance at twitter in order to realize that. And of course, representation of queer romances plays into that. So, while I thought the term would resonate with people of the freedom to choose, the term "player -sexual" as Larian devs described the companions, only druged up old wounds. And I was very, very ignorant on this. From my conversations, I learned that the term was coined in the time of Dragon Age 2 by a confirmed biphobic dev in response to fans praising bisexual characters. As well, it was brought to my attention by my mutual Mish that Larian winning awards for inclusivity, while also using this term, left people feeling like the devs were once again erasing the canon sexuality of pansexuals. For context, Niel Newbon spoke in response to a question that Astarion is pansexual. This can be confirmed in game by Lae'zel possibly sleeping with Astarion during the night of the Tiefling party. The companions aren't just sleeping with any PC no matter what, but with other NPCs as well. Once my moot on twitter, mon, pointed this out-it suddenly made sense. I was wrong. There are some more conversations surrounding this topic I would love to expand on later, but for the point of this already being long I will save it. At first, I thought the problem of labels was solved by the term playersexual, but it turns out that label was stuck on to cover sexualities and their validity. Ignorance is often used as an insult; a euphamism for stup[id. However, ignorance in itself is nuetral. It is neither good nor bad until the option to learn is put forth, and the ignorant make a choice to learn or not. Unfortunately, most cause of discourse is rooted in willful ignorance, or refusing to acknoowledge and understand knowledge when presented. I don't use the words attached to phobics or isms without careful consideration. In this instance I do believe the word playersexual to be pan or bi phobic due to its history. I do hope that Larians reconsiders this word in the future. I can't win every war, but I can learn which wars to fight with not being afraid to be wrong and learn different. thank you <3

[starfall-dream]

Hey, hi, hello! How are you? Hope your cat is getting better and I hope your first week back has been alright. I don't know if you remember me from your ER blog about the request of what would happen if Dreamers firends got basically Isekaied into the Lands Between.

Now, this is your work and your aus, this is all up to you but just humor me for a bit wont ya? I've been thinking about the Dreamer au for a bit now and I haven't been exactly sure to write my thoughts down, but hear me out. We know that, in the Dreamer AU has powers but we don't know the exact details of it (not to my knowledge) and we know that the Shattering really went down after Godwyns death and Dreamer vanished and leaving, right?

Now we have Reader, whatever we're gonna call them getting Isekaied into Feyruin and trying to find a way home. What if Dreamer and Reader are the same character? Dreamer in BG3?  I personally think it wouldn't be off the table, they did went into the Lands Between twice, what stops them being able to basically get to BG3? 👀👀👀

And what if, once the Tadpole gang, plus Druge Tav gets close enough to our lovely Reader, they get some HEAVY lore and backstory from us. What if, when Dreamer comes back to the Lands Between they accidentally brought their party along? Tables turning for the rest of the party.

👀👀👀👀👀👀

But what do you think? Sorry if this has been stupidly long or if it made no sense, but I just wanted to give this idea out to you. If you'd like, I have more ideas I wanna ask and talk about. I have a sea of ideas 🥰

Have a good morning, afternoon, evening and night!

So personally, I don't think I'll mix aus, just because I don't want people to think that they have to read my other stuff to enjoy this, since not everyone might be interested in Elden Ring.

However, if you have nay other ideas relating to au, I'd love to hear them :).

[ramblesanddragons]

I'm activly trying out romances in bg3 and got to the non- ascended romance scene with Astarion in the graveyard with my redeemed Druge.

The little I got you parallel was sweet.

But on top of your grave Astarion??? Really dude?

[r0chrok-blog]

Who is the toxic one?

I was so excited to play BG3. I didn't bother with early access cause I wanted to play it all at release. I downloaded mods for the game the moment the game finished downloading cause I prefer playing RPGs with mods. My main goal was to create a beautiful as hell pretty boy to romance that hot as bloody hell vampire Astarion. I wanted to create a character that would knock his socks off in the beauty department. Astarion was worth it.

Behold! My Durge, such a pretty boy, you wouldn't think he'd need to bang corpses.

I roleplay my Durge as morally grey, leaning on black. He's a dark guy, charismatic, a Shadow Sorcerer (mods) and a Bard. I spent all of Act 1 crafting what type of person he is, why he is making the choices he is making and for the most part, Larian has done a great job of providing the dialogue options and choices for me to do that. Whether I saved the Grove, Raided it, or left them all to rot, I at least felt like I was able to come up with reasons why my Durge would do it. Now I admit, that I created my boy to romance Astarion, but I had no idea what type of character Astarion was and I'm the type to get heavy into roleplaying my character so if the romance didn't happen, then it didn't happen. I'm not going to pick dialogue options just to please a companion nor would I use mods to fake a connection that isn't there, at least not on a serious playthrough.

Lucky for me, Astarion was all over my dark morally grey edgelord. They really did have a connection and I found that my Durge actually fell in love with Astarion to the point of wanting no one else but him.

Even if he felt that Astarion was only using him, picked up on that during the third sex scene (that was just a replay of the first sex scene and picked the cuddle option). Even if Astarion didn't feel the same, my Durge was trading his blood for the shred of intimacy that came with the act. I guess you could say he was prostituting his blood for intimacy. Even false intimacy.

So imagine my surprise when Astarion confesses that he was doing the same, but for protection.

I saw them as two lost souls who always dreamed of finding someone like the other and now that they did, they don't know what to do. They're both learning how to love and they're both terrified of losing the other.

Once again, Larian did a great job of giving me choices here. I didn't want to roleplay as Dr. Phil, knowing all the answers and what's healthy and right. My Durge was not a healthy person. He would question Astarion's attraction to him, and he certainly wouldn't tell Astarion that they shouldn't have sex. This leads to Astarion telling him that he could be so much more. This is something my Durge can believe in. After all, it was always Astarion who seemed to have great insight into my character, he's the one who notices Durge not feeling well, and the one who treated him with kindness after the Bard incident. My Durge also thanks Auntie Ethel for the same thing and its the reason he doesn't bother her when she can't help them with the tadpole.

Durge was ready to accept this new type of relationship with Astarion, something deeper and more meaningful. My Druge is a sexual guy, but sex meant nothing if it wasn't with the man he loved. Cuddling in the tent, talking for all hours of the night, these are the things I pictured my Durge and Astarion doing. Now sharing his blood wasn't for false intimacy, but true, real intimacy between him and his lover.

Astarion gives him the courage to fight to the death against Bhaal. My Durge wanted to live more than anything, and honestly would have just chosen to kneel and serve Bhaal had it not been for Astarion's passionate plea for him to not become Bhaal's mindless puppet.

My Durge wouldn't have been able to face Astarion unless he had a total Victory. So death it was.

When he was brought back, he knew he wasn't suddenly going to be a good little boy. He wasn't redeemed, merely given a second chance to live again, for himself, free of any other influence but his own. Once again, Kudos to Larian for giving me the options to roleplay this out.

Now we come to the infamous Ascension mission. Naturally, my Durge thinks ascension is for the best. He loves Astarion, wants to see him rise above Cazador, take his power for himself, walk proudly in the sun. Those spawn were dead already, they couldn't be released, killing them would be a waste and their souls would just wander the Fugue plains or wherever the faithless go. What did it matter if they were sent to the Hells? My Durge worried about Astarion's mental fortitude when confronted with the past, but once Astarion made it clear that ascension was what he wanted, then my Durge went into goblin mode to give him just that. Ascension meant ultimate freedom, security, and safety for the man he loved.

So far, Larian did a great job here and Astarion's speech after Ascension was breathtaking! Kudos to Neil.

"You hold your breath while I speak..."

I actually was! IRL

Anyway, Everything was fine...well, Act 3 as a whole was leaving much to be desired, but other than that it was fine.

Then comes the long rest and the Astarion conversation.

I take a look at my options and see that everything is most certainly NOT fine.

For some reason, Larian decided to ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL over my Durge and assign motives to him that were not there before. I either ascended Astarion for Vampirism and Sex or I'm a massive fucking bitchass moralizing Karen who suddenly needs Astarion to "Learn a lesson" *Finger Wag*

Everyone keeps saying how Astarion becomes toxic after ascension, but I completely disagree, It's Durge/Tav who becomes the toxic party here. Sure Astarion falls back on Act 1 antics but that doesn't at all compare to the toxicity Durge can bring to the table.

He proves to Astarion that he was just a selfish fuck who wants only pieces of his body, either the blood or the penis.

He's a self righteous gaslighter who dumps the ritual all on Astarion's head.

This time, I have no way to roleplay this garbage, Larian does a total 180 on me, this is NOT the Durge I've spent hundreds of hours crafting, this is now Larian's Durge and now they are going to give him motivations and behaviors, to hell with your roleplay!

Honestly, if Larian was going to take over my character's personality like this, then why couldn't they just give me a voiced protagonist. Cause isn't this type of crap supposed to be what silent protagonists are meant to prevent? It's supposed to give you plenty of options without costing the studio and arm and leg in voice recordings. There are several dialogue options they could have written that all led back to the recorded audio.

"I want to be yours forever."

"I just want you to be safe."

"You gave me the courage to fight and I'm glad I gave you the courage to the do the same."

And let's say you get past the first gauntlet of crap dialogue choices, you're given more if you opt to say yes to becoming a vampire.

Reading his thoughts without his consent.

Then verbally and even physically attacking him.

And over what? His THOUGHTS! Not even words he says to you, but thoughts in his own private head that you choose to pry into.

And what do you get, that he thinks you're better than him. Apparently, that's an insult to people. It's clear that he has low self-esteem issues and the response to confirming those issues is to kick his balls, berate him, compare him to his abuser (With not a ounce of proof), tell him he'll be lonely without you...

Which btw is just abusive insane behavior. It's like telling your ex that if you don't want them then no one else will. Mind you, Durge knows Astarion has issues with thinking he isn't worth anyone loving, so you pretty much play on those fears. When I saw that dialogue option I couldn't help but think of Raphael's line at the start of act 3 if you say he wants your soul in exchange for the hammer.

"My My, you do think highly of yourself."

Granted, I'm complaining about dialogue options I didn't take cause I just started ranting here. But my point, is, which one of them is truly the toxic abusive partner here? Considering that ascended Astarion is punished for dialogue he doesn't say in everyone's playthrough, romances that the player isn't even experiencing.

Like someone telling me that ascended Astarion is abusive because of his romance with Karlach.

You mean this Karlach?

I'm sure that all things considered, she would prefer abusive Astarion to my Durge.

TL;DR Seriously, I didn't think I would write this much. If we're going to judge a character based on dialogue options, whether we take them or experience them or not. The clear winner of the abusive partner awards go to Durge or Tav without a doubt. The sheer amount of shit you can say to Ascended Astarion without him tearing your freaking head off is just crazy. That alone is testament to how much he loves Durge.

So far, I've had multiple playthroughs of this game (some of which I added to my retelling above cause it makes up my overall canon roleplay for my Durge), all romancing Astarion cause I can't stop and yeah I always ascend him. I just have to say, bad form on Larian's part. IMO, I don't need dialogue options to break up with Astarion as a mortal if I speedrun to the end, I need them to write in more varied options post ascension after the first long rest. Don't decide what my character's motives are, don't hijack my freaking character! Fix that Larian!

**I do not hate the devs, they did a great job on this game, I just think that taking over a person's character after 100s of hours of crafting who they are is a mistake. This is a fantasy game, I don't need a lecturing, I do not want to roleplay as a Karen, sex addled freak or user of my romantic partner (against my will). I'm not saying those other options shouldn't exist, but just that it wouldn't hurt to add in one or two more options that aren't hostile, or a user.