#beleg/androg

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Yield

by ohboromir (@maironsbigboobs)

“The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it.” —Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray (1890) Andróg tries to deny his desire for the elf, but he cannot resist forever.

Explicit, No Archive Warnings

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world's worst boyfriends <333

from awfulalignmentcharts and inspired by @julevanwilde

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WBB but it's just beleg and there's only one right answer----

He laughed.

"I don't think you know how to play the game, elf. But, well, we know how I would answer."

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@thegreatstrongbow

Always a delight to find out that a silly guy is also a horny slut

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Sluttiest Tolkien Character: THE SEMIFINALS (Round 6)

Finwe vs Turin

art by @fil3t ; @redreyenotarget

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Finwe:

Listen...I wouldn't fuck him, but he's the only canonical elf who could reasonably be accused of sluttiness, LaCE compliant

The only elf to canonically have two spouses. Also, the dude had five kids when all the other Unbegotten Elves had 1-3 (Elwë & Luthien, Ingwë & Ingwion. Olwë had 3 kids). Also also, he basically let his kids do whatever they wanted, even withholding a scolding when Kid #1 pointed a sword at Kid #3. It seems like Finwë just had kids for the sake of Doing The Do with his wife and having a big family for no canonical reason.

Literally petitioned the Valar to change the law to allow him to marry again

#the gods literally rewrote elven law because of this guy's dick. cmon. #he couldn't keep it in his pants to save his (or miriel's) life

#he changed the history of the elves by not being able to leave his d in his pants #like he didn't have some special power or a world changing plan he just wanted to do the deed lmao

#channeling my inner valinorean aristocrat hearing of the noldor king's scandalous remarriage for the first time and voting finwe

#guys PLZ finwe was the first slut he invented it

#we gotta respect the OG #known mostly for fathering kids with multiple women?!

#i barely go here and dven I know finwe deserves this

Turin:

he’s got more hoes than names. almost everybody he meets immediately wants to fuck him. man or woman, elf or human, noldo or sinda, none are immune to joining his army of simps. elves don’t even care if he’s a doom magnet bc he’s just too irresistible to them. they’ll choose his hot human ass over wisdom any day. both a father and his daughter want him. elves see him and immediately forget about the laws and customs. WHO else is doing it like him?

#EVERYONE who met turin wanted him #wherever he went he got people fucked over because they were so Down Bad for him

#androg was not Like That over turin and beleg for turin not to win

#turin’s sluttiness has a body count both ways 

#turin’s so irresistible he banged his own sister #granted neither knew they were siblings #but dude had everyone ready to risk it all(and die horribly usually because of it) for him

every single elf Túrin meets either wants to adopt him or get in his pants. everyone who fucks him dies horribly, but #worthit. an engaged couple broke up because they both wanted a piece of that hot human ass. his dick caused the fall of a kingdom. literally so sexy he caused political turmoil. he died young but he made every slutty, slutty year count. he’s also pretty heavily queer coded, as close to bisexual as you can get in a story written in 1917. 

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Obscure Tolkien Blorbo: Round 1

Andróg vs Fíriel of Gondor

Andróg:

A member of Túrin’s band of outlaws.

He's terrible! He's a murderer, he hates elves, he tortured Beleg and killed a dwarf. He chased a woman through the woods. BUT he's so ride or die for Turin that he thought Turin and Beleg were having a "tryst". In the end, despite everything, he has a change of heart and saves Beleg so that Beleg can save Turin, so really we have Androg to thank for Turin getting to Nargothrond. This might not be in his favour depending on your view of Turin I suppose.

Fíriel of Gondor:

The daughter of Ondoher, King of Gondor. She married Arvedui Last-king of Arthedain.

JUSTICE FOR THE RIGHTFUL QUEEN OF GONDOR. After her brothers died the crown was HERS by right. Fun fact: her marriage to Arvedui, the heir of the North-kingdom, united the sundered lines of Isildur and Anárion, giving Isildur’s heirs a much more solid claim to the throne of Gondor.

Round 1 masterpost

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valentine request: túrin/beleg! or maybe túrin/beleg/andróg, if it so pleases you

I did want to add Androg but didn´t have the energi to come up with a design for him so you´ll have to do with just these two troublemakers.

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"I find it hard to believe he ever called me agreeable." Andróg teased. Maybe Neithan's standards for agreeable were low. Beleg's hand on his elbow made him flush a little. "But I will take the compliment."

A smile broke out on Beleg's face, eyes closed he laughed. His hand rested over the inside of Androg's elbow. "Turin assured me you were much better than I thought. I didn't believe him." He looked up again. "But I find you even more agreeable than he'd promised."

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Why I think beleg and turin being a canon couple is conjecture

1. The word "tryst" used

The more commonly know meaning of tryst is a secret meeting between lovers which does cause confusion when reading into their relationship but people ignore the second meaning of tryst either deliberately or out of ignorance.

The second meaning being "an appointed meeting or meeting place" which makes more sense. If the context was romantic it would make no sense why androg would be jealous.

2. Kissing beleg

We must first take in mind their relationship from start. Turin had seen beleg since childhood. He was closest to what turn can call an older brother or father figure who also later became his dearest friend. I saw the kiss at the time of death as purely platonic. Like a child kissing their parent/ or a brother kissing his dead brother

Even as friends it would make sense, turin is in extreme anguish he has just killed the only person he has been close to since childhood. Probably his mentor aswell. Hence he kisses his corpse as a last goodbye.

It baffles me that people view this as a sign that he was sexually and romantically attracted to beleg.

Some also argue that he gave his open mouth a kiss that is why it must be romantic in nature, as if a corpse is in any position to close it's mouth.

3. Tolkien's own view of friendship.

A common theme in all of Tolkien's work is extremely close and intense bond of friendship and brotherhood between men. This makes sense as he himself served in army during times of war. Soldiers develop intense and close friendships as they go through extremely traumatic times. Tolkien wrote these friendships based on actual bonds of friendship he had seen while in the army.

Even the friendship of Sam and frodo which is constantly under scrutiny was based on relationship between a Batman and the officer he was serving.

Carpenter’s Biography quotes Tolkien as saying, “My ‘Sam Gamgee’ is indeed a reflexion of the English soldier, of the privates and batmen I knew in the 1914 war, and recognized as so far superior to myself.” A batman, in military parlance, was a soldier who (as well as being required to fight) was tasked with looking after an officer’s kit, cooking, and cleaning. Tolkien’s phrasing in the letter sent to Minchin is different, and very interesting too: “My ‘Samwise’ is indeed (as you note) largely a reflexion of the English soldier—grafted on the village-boys of early days, the memory of the privates and my batmen that I knew in the 1914 War, and recognized as so far superior to myself"

As someone who had family members serve in army and have Batman as their servers I can attest to their incredible loyalty.

4. Projection from people.

Tolkien was a firm christian. Even though he had a student who wrote queer stories and read them I doubt he would include homosexuality in his works. He hated narnia for the way C.S lewis wrote allegory and christian allegory in this story.

His firm believes are clearly reflected in his stories.

All his elves are built upon the image of good christian. They can only marry (romantic involvement) the opposite sex (no homosexuality). They can't have sex outside of marriage. Their sexual desires fade away after having children.

By this default beleg is definitely straight and turin is as well ( as he fell in love with nienor and if he was bisexual over the course of his whole journey he would have fallen in love with a man since he had more companion who were male and it would make sense but he didn't and only fall in love with a women and got her pregnant.)

They reason why fans especially western fans feel so confused at the immense platonic love between his characters is because their society is hyper sexual. Any form of deep affection especially between same genders must be seen as sexual/romantic.

As someone that isn't from the west and has seen such deep relationships between the same-sex, no these characters aren't sexually repressed or secret lovers. They love each other very much, just platonically that is all.

Another kind of audience is one that projects their own views over the actual text. These have either read too gay themed stories or are gay themselves. I would say take your personal bias away and see these texts in light of what tolkiens mindset was.

Extra: same issue with fingon and maedhros who are also family. I have seen so many close friendships and extreme bonds of platonic love between cousins who have also saved each other from life threatening situations and have never thought wow they must be secret lovers 🤦

Note: one more point is to note that platonic love is of greater scale in professor Tolkien's work than romantic love in most scenarios. Also elves formed great platonic friendships.

*A point written by someone in reddit

"Elf-friend" status isn't something that an Elf can award to a favored mortal, and that all Elves somehow recognize once one Elf has conferred it. Being an "elf-friend" is a psychological and spiritual state that some mortals attain, and once they do all Elves (and creatures of similar spiritual discernment) are able to recognize it.

In fact, being an "elf-friend" is a sign that a given mortal is in tune with the way Arda was supposed to be from the beginning. The estrangement of Elves and mortals only came about because of the Marring of Arda by Melkor. Had that not happened, all mortals would have had the benefit of living with and conversing with Elves, who would have been their helpers and teachers. That would have left a clear mark upon them - longer life, clearer intelligence, deeper spiritual existence - just as it did upon those few mortals who got the opportunity despite the Marring

It seems friendships between mortals and elves are very spiritual in nature. And beleg does provide guidance and counsel to turin almost akin to a spiritual guide and friend/parental figure.

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Androg is jealous of Turin and Beleg so obviously he needs to be spitroasted by them

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Elements of Morgoth’s Curse on Húrin’s Family

There’s a lot of things going on in the Narn i Hîn Húrin, so I wanted to lay out what I think are the different elements of Morgoth’s curse. There’s a lot of aspects, from the things he does directly (send forces to capture Amon Rudh, send Glaurung to Nargothrond), supernatural bad luck (Túrin killing Beleg), and things that I read as more subtle negative influences.

First, I think the curse broadly influences both Túrin and everyone around him to be on their worst behaviour. It can’t make anyone do anything, it can’t override free will, but it can encourage bad behaviour and bad decisions. We’ve got one statement directly pointing to this, from Mablung to Saeros when the latter deliberately antagonizes Túrin and gets a jug thrown at his face for his trouble: “I think that some shadow of the North has reached out to touch us tonight. Take heed, lest you do the will of Morgoth in your pride, and remember than you are of the Eldar.”

My inclination is to think that Mablung has percieved correctly here, amd that Morgoth is doing everything he can to get Túrin out of Doriath, where Morgoth’s power to harm him is limited. This influence encourages Saeros’ hostility, Túrin’s revenge, and Túrin’s hasty decision to leave Doriath and refuse to explain his actions.

There are a lot of things that I read this way - Túrin’s stubbornness, his preying on civilians and travellers during his early days with the outlaws, the outlaws’ striking cruelty towards Beleg, Androg’s behaviour, Mîm’s resentments and later betrayal, Túrin’s arrogance and hostility towards dissent in Nargothrond, and even Morwen and Nienor’s determination to leave Doriath and go with the scouting mission to Nargothrond are all things chosen by the characters themselves, but in the above context it’s easy to suspect a subtle temptation underlying them. And the cruelty of the influence on the family of Húrin, in particular, is that the influence is driving, I think, a tragedy specifically directed at operating through hamartia - a virtue that becomes a vice in excess - to turn courage into recklessness and stubborn determination into obstinance.

Once Túrin leaves Doriath, the curse begins to work in some more direct ways. One subtle implication of the Narn is that Morgoth is clouding Túrin’s good memories of Doriath so that he will not return.

Coming suddenly out of his thought he said to Beleg: “The elf-maiden whom you named: I owe her well for her timely witness; yet I cannot recall her. Why did she watch my ways?”

Then Beleg looked stragely at him. “Why indeed?” he said. “Túrin, have you lived always with your heart and half your mind far away? You walked with Nellas in the woods of Doriath, when you were a boy.”

“That was long ago,” said Túrin. “Or so my childhood now seems, and a mist is over it - save the memory of my father’s house in Dor-lómin. But why should I have walked with an elf-maiden?”

A third way, and probably the most dramatic one, in which the curse works is as a very powerful bad-luck charm. Túrin accidentally killing Beleg, Túrin finding Nienor unconscious and naked on the burial mound of Finduilas, and possibly even the love triangle between Finduilas, Gwindor, and Túrin.

These three elements of the curse can operate whether Morgoth knows where Túrin is or not (the Narn does mention Morgoth loses track of him from time to time, until Túrin’s determination for open war periodically reveals him again).

And then the fourth element is Morgoth acting directly - sending forces after Túrin on Amon Rudh, sending Glaurung to Nargothrond, having Glauring hypnotize first Túrin and then Nienor, sending Glaurung to Brethil. I almost wonder if Morgoth at this point infuses some part of his spirit into Glaurung; prior to this the dragon seems like a large and dangerous, but basically animal-like monster, whereas in the Narn he’s intelligent, manipulative, and malicious.

And there are others things where it’s hard to tell what aspect of the curse is at work, but connections seem more than coincidental. Saeros taunt Túrin about the women of Dor-lómin “running like beasts clad only in their hair”; Nienor, enchanted by Glaurung, runs, “flying like a deer among the trees with her hair streaming in the wind of her speed” and tears off her clothing. Saeros leaps to his death at a chasm of a river; so, later, does Nienor (at Caben-en-Aras, the Deer’s Leap). The wording, the recurrence if the word ‘deer’, indicates that Tolkien intended us to make this connection, but what does that mean?

It seems to easy to claim that Morgoth had it all planned out from the start, from Saeros to Nienor; there are far too many twists and turns in Túrin’s story for it to seem plausible that Morgoth could orchestrate it that precisely, from start to finish. He’s got to be playing things by ear and adapting to circumstances at least a bit. But the Saeros parallel could suggest Morgoth had the general endgame (Túrin and Nienor marrying each other unknowingly) in mind from the start, and was waiting for the right moment when the family were in geographical proximity and outside the protection of Doriath.

EDIT: On the “painful dramatic ironies” front, I forgot to mention Túrin loving Finduilas ‘as a sister’ because she reminds him of the women of the House of Hador, and then falling in love with his actual sister in part because she connects with his memories of / guilt about Finduilas.

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Amarie/Androg

How did they first meet? Amarië got kidnapped and held for ransom.

Who felt romantic feelings first? Probably Amarië tbh

Did either of them try to resist their feelings? Androg did. Amarië didn’t, she elf married him after their third date.

Who initiated their feelings first? That’s a matter of opinion. Amarië thinks she did because of the Aforementioned elf marriage

Who said “I love you” first? Amarie. Androg had done something done and she had to yell at him.

Who gets jealous easily? Both lmao. Amarië aggressively pretends to not be jealous.

Who is more protective? Amarië. She knows she’s stronger than him.

Who remembers the little things? Amarie.

Who talks about their feelings more? They have never communicated their feelings once.

Who uses the cheesier pickup lines? Androg.

What does a first date look like for them? Hunting? Skinning an animal? Idk.

What do they like to do together? Just chill I think. She weaves and he sharpens his sword or smth. Idk.

Which one gets angry the most, leaving the other to calm them down? Both I think. But they don’t talk about it, they just ignore each other.

Do they like PDA? No.

What are their big spoon / little spoon arrangements? Amarië likes to use Androg’s misogyny against him to try to be the little spoon.

Does one like the cuddle more than the other? Androg I think. Amarie doesn’t mind.

Who hogs the blankets? Amarië she hates the cold after the Helacarxë

Who’s more likely to initiate sex? 50/50 I think. Androg has the mortal libido but Amarië has the elf stamina.

Who’s the kinkiest? I don’t think either is very kinky.

Who is the top and bottom in their sex life? Are they interchangeable? It’s interchange I think.

Who likes giving and who likes receiving oral? She’ll give oral if it encourages him to bathe.

Can they last more than one round? High elf Amarië can

Which one is a morning person? Amarie lol

Do either of them like to cook? Sometimes. She doesn’t care to do it over a campfire.

If they get married, who proposes first? Neither. Amarië elf married him.

What kind of wedding do they have? Shotgun.

Does anyone object to their relationship? Beleg (post torture.)

Do they have any kids? Andvir and Lehte.

Do they have any pets? Amarië keeps songbirds in Valinor.

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Beleg/Androg for that ship meme thing :)

Drop a ship in my inbox and I’ll fill everything out below ! It’s a mix from fluff to nsfw .

How did they first meet? HAHAHAHA SO there's this tree right...

Who felt romantic feelings first? Beleg. He's a romantic. He can't help himself. HOPELESS.

Did either of them try to resist their feelings? YES. The denial was so so strong.

Who initiated their feelings first? Andróg. He hasn't got forever to wait on this elf.

Who said “I love you” first? Beleg. Very quietly. Andróg didn't hear him.

Who gets jealous easily? Both. Jelly Belly. Androg is literally canonically jealous lol.

Who is more protective? Beleg. These mortals are so fragile.

Who remembers the little things? Beleg has the better memory.

Who talks about their feelings more? They don't like to talk about feelings very much. It's scary.

Who uses the cheesier pickup lines? Beleg is full of cheesy elf pickup lines. Androg secretly finds it endearing.

What does a first date look like for them? They snuck away from Amon Rudh, Beleg showed him a pretty grove he had found and they sat and talked and drank.

What do they like to do together? Hunting, fighting, drinking... hanging out with the lads. Beleg likes wood carve and Androg likes to nap against him while he does.

Which one gets angry the most, leaving the other to calm them down? Both of them get angry - short tempers. Calming down is best done alone.

Do they like PDA? Androg doesn't, so Beleg refrains as much as he can.

What are their big spoon / little spoon arrangements? BELEG LITTLE SPOON snuggling that hairy chest

Does one like the cuddle more than the other? Beleg is SO cuddly

Who hogs the blankets? Androg

Who’s more likely to initiate sex? It's about even

Who’s the kinkiest? Beleg.

Who is the top and bottom in their sex life? Are they interchangeable? Androg prefers to top. Beleg doesn't care - but also has a lot of paranoia around being naked and vulnerable in Amon Rudh

Who likes giving and who likes receiving oral? Beleg is sooooo into giving it's his favourite ;)

Can they last more than one round? Beleg can easily. Androg can sometimes.

Which one is a morning person? Beleg and he IS annoying about it.

Do either of them like to cook? Beleg is not allowed to cook. Androg is average.

If they get married, who proposes first? It would be Beleg but I don't think they'd ever marry

What kind of wedding do they have? Invite all their friends. Get drunk. Have Cake.

Does anyone object to their relationship? Mablung is not impressed.

Do they have any kids? No

Do they have any pets? Androg wants a dog :3

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A letter was tucked under the edge of Androg's blanket. Not so much a letter as a scrap of paper. Often Beleg had asked for help in composing messages in the past, but this time he'd done it all himself.

Androg,

♡

B

He did not need to read to understand this message. He traced the letters of his own name, and then, very tenderly, the carefully drawn heart, the little signature at the bottom. His face felt very warm and he held the scrap of paper to his chest for a moment, smiling. He had never gotten a love letter before...

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Update: if it is not canon that Turin (I don’t know how to do the accent on my computer, I’m sorry) and Beleg are lovers, it is at least canon that Androg thinks they are and is jealous.

“But if Turin was glad [of Beleg’s return], not so was Androg, nor some others of his company. It seemed to them that there had been a tryst between Beleg and their captain, which he had kept secret from them; and Androg watched them jealously as the two sat apart in speech together.”

(Disclaimers: 1) It is possible that Tolkien knew some platonic meaning of the word “tryst” that I do not. But as far as I know, and as far as Google has confirmed, that is a word with romantic meaning.

2) Of course, Turin has many other wonderful and appreciable qualities, as enumerated above, and it is not necessary for him to be gay for us to love him. But since I am gay, and many other tumblrites are queer in some way or other, I mention it. Also, I just enjoy the opportunity to talk about the word “tryst”.)

My fellow Tolkienites (and tumblrites in general),

I started reading “The Children of Húrin” today, and I would like to invite you all to join me in love for Túrin Turambar. Those of you who already love him, please come and find me. Those who do not, I recommend reading “The Children of Húrin”.

I am not finished with the story yet, but thus far Túrin appears to have everything necessary to be a big hit on this website.

If you like a sad man, he is that.

If you like a rebel fighting against fate, he is that.

He is probably queer. Thus far no sexuality of any kind has been made explicit, but he sure does have a very special man in his life, Beleg.

He canonically says, “You will respect women or you will respect my sword*,” and proceeds to carry out this threat on more than one occasion.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

*I’m paraphrasing in order to perfectly fit his words into tumblr meme format, but that is pretty much what he says.

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Sluttiest Tolkien Character: Round 5

Adar vs Turin

art by @redreyenotarget

Propaganda under the cut ↓

Adar:

His name is literally Daddy and we know why ;) His whole deal is looking gorgeous and traumatized and falling in love with his worst enemies (Sauron to Galadriel to Elrond and on and on.) Besides, who doesn't love a man (Uruk) covered in black blood? Adar could get it, in both Joseph Mawle and Sam Hazeldine forms, but we admire Hazeldine for committing so fully to the "single dad newly divorced and ready to FUCK" version of the character in season 2. And who doesn't love a devoted father?

god just look at him. that man gets pegged

Turin:

he’s got more hoes than names. almost everybody he meets immediately wants to fuck him. man or woman, elf or human, noldo or sinda, none are immune to joining his army of simps. elves don’t even care if he’s a doom magnet bc he’s just too irresistible to them. they’ll choose his hot human ass over wisdom any day. both a father and his daughter want him. elves see him and immediately forget about the laws and customs. WHO else is doing it like him?

#EVERYONE who met turin wanted him #wherever he went he got people fucked over because they were so Down Bad for him

#androg was not Like That over turin and beleg for turin not to win