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ah branch 2 of the mabinogion aka "god fucking damn it efnisien"
#listening to my folklore podcast while I paint horse fur#somewhat ironic considering how this story goes for the horses (badly)#because of Fucking Efnisien
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If that's how much Gary loses it with just efnisien's sub-larentins, how does Augus handle being with omegas in full heat all the time? Or is Augus just more accustomed to it and is just like Gary this so embarrassing for you 🤭 one whiff of larentin and you can't make sentences 🤭
OR is it with an omega in heat and a peak alpha that's its just. Full animal going at it from both of them?
It's definitely not just the sub-larentins! Efnisien wasn't even in heat, and we've seen Gary react to Efnisien in (a partial) heat and he wasn't out of control, but he did grow increasingly uh, invested, or maybe aroused by Efnisien the more time he spent with him, and the more he came to interact with him sensually/sexually.
Gary's not attracted to omegas, and he can suppress his reaction to omegas when they're in heat. We also know that he can have this intense reaction to alphas, which is why James only agreed to having penetrative sex with him less than a handful of times a year. So it's definitely not just a 'sub-larentin' thing, though I think that played into why things lasted so long, Gary could always go into that feral headspace because he literally warns Efnisien over and over again what he's like, because of his experience with alphas. Which is important to remember! Gary hasn't been that intense before, but that doesn't mean he isn't intense, because that's what he's been trying to prepare Efnisien for mentally for some time, from the size training, to other things, to kind of give him a 'hey, don't fuck around with peak alphas, I mean it' heads up.
But Gary didn't know that he could fuck for three days straight, and that's where I think the sub-larentins had a partial (but definitely not full) influence.
how does Augus handle being with omegas in full heat all the time?
Most peak alphas (including Gary) don't react to omegas in heat the way most alphas do. Most peak alphas aren't attracted to omegas at all (in fact many aren't attracted to anyone, they're attracted to power), so Augus doesn't have the same issues that some alphas do if an omega goes into heat (he has other issues, but that's a whole other thing).
Tbh in this world it'd be more like 'that's embarrassing for Augus' re: how he's able to be so in control all the time. He's considered on the weaker end of the peak alpha perspective. (If Temsen and Gary are at a 90/100, Augus is at a 20/100 for power, lmao, kind of like of the alphas, Janusz is on the lower end and Caleb is on the higher for power).
Augus is very good at sublimating his instincts into BDSM, but he's really quite atypical and is the only peak alpha companion in the world because of it. A meaner peak alpha would probably call that a skill issue, lmao.
But we also haven't seen Augus with an omega during their heat. We don't know how he's affected. We can't draw any conclusions about it, especially since alphas are meant to fuck omegas for days without stopping during a heat, because that's like...part of the responsibility of taking care of an omega. So if he can do that and is invested in doing that, he's just being normal.
But yeah no, Efnisien wasn't in heat! He wasn't making more sub-larentins than normal. So whole 'one whiff of larentin' isn't why Gary couldn't make sentences. That had nothing to do with it. Gary was like this before with alphas who don't make sub-larentins. It was the length/intensity on top of everything he doesn't expect, but he memory loss, the lack of ability to form sentences etc. that's all normal for him. That's peak alphas being in the haze of utterly destroying/dominating someone, and that is something they very much enjoy (if they're attracted to anyone at all) with alphas.
OR is it with an omega in heat and a peak alpha that's its just.
Efnisien was never in heat for this! Efnisien wasn't in heat, didn't "need" sex, wasn't producing more hormones for sex. He was just, in that moment, a regular alpha who was curious about having penetrative sex for the first time.
We can see Gary's reaction at least to a partial heat earlier in the story, and it's very different, so we know he doesn't lose control of himself / and can still make full sentences when Efnisien's in that state.
#asks and answers#underline worldbuilding#underline the black#efnisien ap wledig#dr gary konowalous#yeah no efnisien isn't in heat#when i mention the sub-larentins as being part of it (definitely not all)#it's more like - he just makes them in general and they might trigger a more#ardolphogon heavy response but efnisien also has ardolphogen in his system#and he can't make regular larentin#so yeah like we haven't even *seen* how gary fucks when efnisien's in heat yet#but yeah there's a reason gary's been spending all this time trying to prepare efnisien#because he knew he would get exactly like this#from his experience with alphas - not omegas
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Me again! Bringing in some hot gossip about the Welsh Laws of Women. (By which I mean from the laws of Hywel Dda.)
No. No! Don't run away, it's good shit, I promise!
So, the legal majority for a girl was twelve. This is different to a boy. Under Welsh law, they didn't become men until they were 14, and, if they were high-ranking, were fostered out to other nobles, whereas girls were kept at home, hence the 'father's platter.' What's interesting to me is that after she became a woman she was entitled to hold her own property as an unmarried woman and 'go wherever she pleased.'
I realise I am saying that verbatim to what I've highlighted but like think about it!!!! She wasn't bound to her family - except in marriage but I'll get into that - and she legally had the right to go bye byes! Her father didn't rule her life, basically. She's a free spirit.
NOW, the right to land is pretty tricky, on account of different parts of Wales having different customs. You gotta remember that Wales was NEVER really united* under one big fish until AFTER the Normanic Conquest, and even then that took some fuckin doing.
(*Llywelyn ap Gruffudd, Owain Gwynedd, and Llywelyn Fawr are exceptions. That's the House of Aberffraw, bb!)
So, in South Wales, it seems more prevalent to give land to a lady's descendants when there were no men to take up the land. This is far better than in North Wales (and may I just say as a North Walian *clears throat* WHAT THE FUCK?) where basically Salic Law applied which is basically where u gotta give it to a male descendent. Female lineal descendants were excluded. Boo!!!
BUT!!! However, matrilineal bloodlines should not be discounted. Royal women still had claims to the throne that could be used by their descendants to press their claim. Owain Glyndŵr did this. I suspect if u were related to a Welsh lady you could try and do it but, pls, don't use this tumblr post to try and convince the jury. It's on you, bud.
MAWWIAGE. IT'S WHAT BWINGS US TOGETHER.
Now, there are two forms of marriage. Your normal one where your parents pick for you or at the very least gift u to your husbando like in Culhwch and Olwen, and the one where you can ELOPE. Because Welsh law didn't see marriage as a religious thing the sanctity of marriage wasn't in question so, therefore, you could have a little fun and y'know nyoom after your chosen beau. (Gwenllian ferch Gruffudd ap Cynan did this. She's ace.)
The Mabinogi gives us a lot of good shit about the gift of kin stuff. Branwen gets gifted to Matholwch by Bendigeidfran, all fine and dandy. BUT Welsh law states that your relatives - mam, dad, grandads, grandmum's, great-grandad's and grrat-grandmum's - needed to take counsel cuz y'know it's a big fuckin thing, giving somebody in marriage. So, that's why Efnisien is so upset because he wasn't given a say. He thinks he is legally entitled to do so. However, he's only her half-brother so not full-blooded. Therefore, he's unable to have a say because he isn't fully related to her.
(A lot of Welsh law is prevaricated on kin ties.)
Also for all u Rhiannon lovers out there - like me - the Welsh law was on her side when she fought to free herself from Gwawl ap Clud. (Although the badger-in-a-sack game was a bit much.) Welsh law forbade a woman from being married against her will. Yeah, your family could try and capture you and bring you back but like if you'd bonked the lad you could stay. You'd made your choice. Nobody can take that away from you. All that was needed in a personal bestowal was continued cohabitation. *clicks teeth, finger guns.*
Also, there are marriage laws too, but I don't want to clutter up the feed too much, or overly ramble. Suffice to say there's some fun ones!
#arthuriana#welsh mythology#mabinogion#the mabinogion#welsh myth#y mabinogi#the mabinogi#arthurian legend#arthurian mythology#welsh laws#the laws of hywel dda#welsh culture#welsh customs#culhwch ac olwen#culhwch and olwen#pwyll pen annwfn#rhiannon ferch hyfaidd hen#branwen ferch llŷr#bendigeidfran#welsh history#medieval laws#wales
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Sometimes I feel like Efnisien because I, too, have no idea why the fuck I just did that
anyway, which character from the four branches would you all be? i would be lleu. because my mother doesn't want me, my uncle's been very influential in my life, and i too can be tempted out of hiding by a little poetry recital.
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As someone who has a lot of hormonally induced, fairly vicious mood swings, I just wanted to say that I think the way you write UTB Efnisien really captures the self doubt and frustration that can stem from it. Obviously, we are in very(!) different situations but I find it very resonant and true to my own struggles and it makes me feel a tiny bit less crazy when I read it, so thank you for that
Oof, sorry you have to go through that anon, it can be a challenge that's for sure.
Especially because people can often be quite dismissive about it and it's like no, hormones are real, and they're going to really mess with you depending on what your body is doing (and the drugs you're taking / the stage in your life) at any given time.
Writing that for Efnisien has been interesting, because I think some of his mood swings are just pure trauma responses that are interpreted as being connected to his hormones, and others are very much evidence of where he sits with too little ardolphogen in his body.
If anything, I think Gary's mood swings are profoundly influenced by the hormones he produces, and we'll see that in the future, when he experiences something called 'ardolphogen rage' and has to take tranquilisers because of it.
#asks and answers#underline the black#efnisien ap wledig#dr gary konowalous#sitting here drinking maccas hot chocolate#because the mccafe hot chocolate is fucking baller actually#and is better than what most actual cafes make#a lot of what is assumed to be hormones with efnisien#is a lot of trauma#except around his heat and then it's hormones fdsalkfjasfsa#but gary is SUPER influenced by ardolphogen#like massively so#i mean he has the PACS to show for it#administrator gwyn wants this in the queue
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Hi Pia x
Has Gary ever fucked someone to the point of blacking out? and if yes what does he do? Does just keep going? 😆
Also does he have safewords to give them an out? Since I know you said he can be very primal and it seems like he enjoys it when the people he's with fight back or say no
Just really curious. Thanks
Oooo, okay, so it just depends. I mean yes he absolutely fucks people to the point of passing out, he's actually pretty used to it. Not many bodies are designed for sex marathons with a peak alpha. But re: the passing out...
Like if someone passed out early on because they'd taken drugs and it had not much to do with Gary's actions, he'd stop immediately (and call an ambulance or arrange to take them to the hospital). After all, most of the people Gary fucks, he picks up in nightclubs.
However, if say, a person passes out because Gary's absolutely used them up and they're overloaded, he'll usually quickly monitor their pulse and heart-rate, and then continue. (He won't if he hasn't knotted yet, he needs his partners to be conscious for that, and he doesn't always knot anyway - but he will if it's after knotting).
So yeah it's very circumstantial.
As for safewords, you'll have to keep reading Underline the Black to find out if he uses those! That chapter's coming this month. :D
#asks and answers#underline the black#dr gary konowalous#efnisien ap wledig#basically gary's very much on a 'case by case' basis#there's no clear yes or no answer#also this is something that most people understand happens with alphas?#like most alphas *have* to keep going to a point after they've knotted#and peak alphas are no exception#like if you want to fuck an alpha#you kind of have to be prepared for the fact that they're going to keep going if you pass out#otherwise just fuck betas#or buy some knotting toys y'know?#this is a world where alphas don't really go to jail for fucking unconscious people who consented to conscious sex#because they're *alphas*#and a judge is going to say 'did you...fucking forget you were with an alpha?'#to anyone who contests it sdalfkjsda
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Hi Pia. Just curious is Gary good at giving aftercare to his partners or is he like Temsen?
Also that list of stuff Gary's into is making me squeal XD Can't wait to see how and what sort of intimate activities Gary and Ef get up to together in the future
Hi hi,
This just really depends. Gary doesn't consider the people he has one night stands with to be 'partners.' He doesn't really bother with aftercare with them beyond making sure they're not injured physically (and by that, not even too injured, some blood is considered acceptable to him). He's usually the first one to leave, and he has left partners who are asleep / borderline knocked out once he's reassured himself that they don't need to go to a hospital. He usually just leaves a business card in case they leave him lmao.
And otherwise the only partner he's ever had is James. I'd say whatever aftercare he provides is mostly based around health more than comfort, though there might be some reassurance in there, alphas don't like to feel the alpha version of emasculated for too long, so like... most of the classic things associated with aftercare would just really prolong a scene for an alpha.
They're more likely to need to actually re-establish themselves as being independent and capable rather than want comfort. We even see this with Efnisien in their first real kind of 'sex' scene (the handjob scene coming up). Efnisien doesn't want to be hugged and coddled and petted, he actually gets up pretty quickly and goes to have a shower, in part because he's sort of...falling back into his own power again.
But that is also part of the aftercare for Gary.
I also think it's part of his aftercare - like, for himself - to be allowed to just leave or detach soon after, or be more like 'you don't matter to me so much that I need to be around you 24/7 I'm going to do something else now' - which is necessary for peak alphas to a degree as well.
With James, I'd say he probably made sure James had access to food and water, and you know, told him that he's beautiful and hot and held him for a while and then actually just gave James a hell of a lot of space if James wanted it, or went back to giving James a lot more power and control in the relationship.
I doubt Gary's ever given serious thought to the word 'aftercare' and if someone said 'what aftercare do you do' he'd just give them a blank look and say 'I don't do any.'
Everything he does after sex to him is the basic thing you do after anyone runs a physical marathon and might be injured after doing it. He's as likely to consider that aftercare as he is to consider a post-workout protein bar 'aftercare.' He doesn't really think that way! Which makes it harder to kind of think about for me in general because it's like, my kneejerk reaction is to be like 'he does not give a shit.' That's not quite true, and he does things that some would consider aftercare, just...Gary never would, and he's incredibly skimpy on it with strangers.
#asks and answers#underline the black#dr gary konowalous#efnisien ap wledig#james visser#Gary's also kind of acutely aware that the way he fucks alphas is extremely challenging for them psychologically#and he really really enjoys that#but he's kind of like... he does not expect to necessarily be *wanted* as soon as his cock is out of another alpha's ass#to be very crude#like he's had alphas turn around and try and punch him in the face#because their biology just snaps right at the end#and those alphas fully consented - enjoyed it - and would do it again#so you can probably imagine anon#that these aren't the kind of people you wrap in your arms and whisper sweet nothings to and ply with blankets#it's funny i think gary's WAY more likely to offer things that look like aftercare#at literally any other time lmao
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Excerpt from chapter 103 of Underline the Black:
‘Good,’ Flitmouse said. ‘Your hair is very soft.’ He brushed it absently, then his hand rested gently at the top of Efnisien’s back. ‘I have to know, what is it like to be with a peak alpha? You didn’t even have a heat to carry you through it. I can’t decide if that’s better or worse!’ ‘I hated my first bastardised heat,’ Efnisien said, his voice quiet because they were so close. ‘So this was better. It was a lot, but it was better than that.’ ‘If you could choose between someone who had a perfectly beta-sized penis, no knot, who didn’t consume you like that, would you prefer it?’ Efnisien bit at his top lip and then shook his head. No. That’s what he’d realised ages ago. Even before Gary had fucked him like that. There was something about the intensity of Gary’s possessiveness – whether it made him furious or feel like surrendering – that he craved. ‘Maybe I’m a masochist,’ Efnisien said. ‘Maybe I am too,’ Flitmouse said. ‘Are all omegas like that?’ ‘Oh no. No, not at all. But perhaps more than the average person, yes. And some of us more than others. There are things I don’t like at all, and other things I almost feel I look forward to until I’m going through it again. And once it’s over I want them again.’
#daily excerpt#underline the black#underline the rainbow#efnisien ap wledig#alois flitmouse#dr gary konowalous#omegaverse#mm romance#queer romance#angst with a happy ending#hurt/comfort#i hope you're all ready for a bunch of efnisien and flitmouse bonding#because we're about to get a lot of it
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Most chill to least - Welsh mythology and Arthurian edition. Inspired by a convo @gwalch-mei and I had last night. Seriously I was severely sleep deprived so yeah.
0. Culhwch. He just exists in his own story like I can't say much else. Sorry, mate.
1. Manawydan / Brân (they're brothers but like Manawydan is legit usurped by a guy who kills his nephew and just completely fucks off to Dyfed to live in peace with his horse goddess wife and her rash son. Brân, before he gets his head cut off, is super chill but also nearly gets the whole of the Britons wiped out. (Long story)
2. Rhiannon. Unproblematic. Never done anything wrong in her LIFE.
3. Palomides. (I know he has beef with Tristan but like SAME.)
4. Honestly, Gwalchmai is super chill.
5. Aranrhod. Wants to be left alone by her stupid idiotic brothers. Or smash Gwydion's head in. Either really.
6. Branwen. Chill, yes, but I do also headcanon that she wanted to kill her half-brother as well as her husband and raze Ireland to the ground for all she endured.
7. Peredur / Percival. More Peredur because he is the most chillest and unfazed lad ever but still.
8. Galahad. Just... the vibe gives is super chill war criminal in a way I cannot explain.
9. Arthur. Except for the time in Welsh myth where he just casually kills a dude for necking one of his mistresses. Or y'know the May Day massacre.
10. Gwenhwyfar. (Guinevere is also chill but she would hunt those who wronged her down for sport if necessary. Gwenhwyfar, in contrast, would maim if needed. Seems largely content with the fact her husband is in love with his boat. Also just... yeah.)
11. Bedwyr. Puts up with Arthur's crap so it necessitates he would Have To Be Chill.
12 / 13. Lancelot and Gawain. They're together because their shenanigans are unmatched.
14/15. Lludd and Llefelys. They near killed each other because of some magical imps they have NO CHILL. Tbf they also immediately made up but like ugyftci
16. Dylan Ail Don, my beloved. He is the god of the waves. (Also, Llŷr too because as god of the sea, he would go off if he was not imprisoned somewhere.)
17. Kay. A lil more hot-headed in certain interpretations. Would, I think, also smack the shit out of Arthur if pressed. (Kay is also here for me because he is a cantankerous bastard but, like, wouldn't u be if u had to deal with half the shit he did.)
18. Fuckin Mordred man endjsjdjx CHILL MY DUDE PLS.
19. Arawn and Pwyll. Just the entirety of branch one of the Mabinogionmakes me think they just are both chill and terribly not.
20/21 Gaheris and Gareth are also a package deal. I know gawain and lance are quite high up the list whereas the rest of the Orkney aren't but like it's a big fat lie. They're just better at hiding it.
22/23. Gwydion and Gilfaethwy
24/25 Blodeuwedd and Lleu. They need couples therapy and QUICKLY
26/27. Owain and Morfudd (they are grandkids of arawn so u THINK THEY CHILL?))
28. Gwyn ap Nudd (no chill. Cut out a man's heart and then made the man's son eat it. Get some therapy, Gwyn, plîs.)
29. Bors and Hector ngl
27. Tor and Lamorak. Just. I mean.
28. Efnisien. oh God oh fuck oh boi
29. Pryderi, in all honesty. Like for having a mum who is legit super chill (apart from when she chews Pwyll and Manawydan out) he is remarkably rash.
30. Fuckin GERAINT
31. Agravaine. Man is just... he just... well, y'know.
32. Cerridwen. She chased Taliesin down and I bet she was fuming the entire time. Literally ate him and gave birth to him.
33. Enid. She is not chill and honestly I know she seems like she is but I bet she wanted to kill geraint cuz I would. Let her fly off the handle holy shit.
34. Morgan. I think she is allowed to be as unchill as she can and wishes to be.
35. Iseult / Esyllt. Nothing more than vibes honestly but still.
36. Olwen. Again nothing but vibes but she is a giant's daughter and like cyvyvuvh
#arthuriana#welsh mythology#mabinogion#the mabinogion#welsh myth#arthurian legend#arthurian legends#arthurian mythology#arthurian myth#arthurian literature#celtic mythology#y mabinogi#king arthur#queen guinevere#sir gawain#sir kay#sir bedivere#sir tristan#sir palomides#sir agravaine#sir gareth#sir gaheris#the orkney's#sir galahad#lancelot du lac#morgan le fay#manawydan ap llŷr#bendigeidfran ap llŷr#branwen ferch llŷr#rhiannon ferch hyfaidd hen
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Hi Pia!
I've been reading a bunch of your works over the last couple of months and I hope it's okay if I throw some thoughts/questions at you!
This feels really forward, but have you ever written anything with voyerism as a kink? And if not, do you have any interest in it? TIP is the most recent thing of yours that I've finished and that scene where Augus watched Mosk & Eran... hot. Twas very hot. I think about it a lot lol.
As for the Underline universe, how far into Blue and Gold are we? Like percentage/fraction-wise? Or is it still up in the air? I know we have an end in sight for Black now and it makes me wonder.
I'm so nervous about the next couple of chapters of Black. Gosh I love the fluff rn, but I am so scared for the whole Henton/Crielle mess to come back. I genuinely forgot that Henton was gonna be relevant and I looked at the tags recently and audibly went 'oh shit.' This is not a question, I just want you to know that I am Scared.
I have so many questions about Silver but I am trying to restrain myself bc I know you must keep your secrets. Just please know I think about them. Could I ask what Augus and Corbyn's ages are? I'm fairly certain they're not gonna be 80 but I work as a CNA and I've started thinking about their dynamic as a cute old couple at a facility and it makes me giggle a little.
If you're still doing the OC asks thing, would you do #10 for Arden? I know you've gotten multiple asks about him in Underline (which makes sense why you wouldn't want to put him there), but I'm curious if there's any other scenarios you'd want to put him in?
I'm the anon that asked for more about Caleb and I just. Am fighting demons not to literally put 1-25 for him (I love mean tops)(And he is still in his mean to faber stage)(will he ever not be? that's not a actual question) I just...his and fabers dynamic is my kind of hurt lol (i wonder how he'd feel about having a tiny fanclub?)(i can support his buisness pursuits or something)
Now that I look all of this over I am sorry but also not sorry this is probably overwhelming. Feel free to skip over whatever or answer some and come back to it. Just know I am thinking about your characters like... too many hours in the day. I need to get back to laundry lol
Whoa holy fucking questions batman!
I shall do my best anon I am intrigued
This feels really forward, but have you ever written anything with voyerism as a kink? And if not, do you have any interest in it? TIP is the most recent thing of yours that I've finished and that scene where Augus watched Mosk & Eran... hot. Twas very hot. I think about it a lot lol.
Voyeurism, yes! Particularly in one of the later chapters of The Beast that Chose Its Own Bridle where Felix and Murtagh watch a kink scene live, and Murtagh edges Felix during it, while quietly talking to him, until Felix is basically begging to come.
Otherwise I'm not writing it often mostly because many of the bottoms I write are either a) too insecure to perform for others or b) it's just not a direction the story is going in.
I don't really write exhibitionism at all, but there are elements of voyeurism around, Falling Falling Stars had some non-sexual and hints of voyeurism overall re: Efnisien, Kadek, and Arden.
I'm fairly certain the Strange Sights universe has elements of both (exhibitionism from Augus, voyeurism from Ash and Augus towards each other). Especially the follow-up sequel, where Ash asks Augus to masturbate for him.
Eversion probably has the most in terms of people watching Connor. In fact the very first time we ever see him in a sex scene, it's at a BDSM club where literally someone is just there to watch him get off, and he meets his dom while both of them watch someone else endure a flogging, and Connor is - similarly to Felix - played with while watching the scene. There's also the threesome between Luuk, Hank and Connor later, where it's clear that Hank and Luuk are both enjoying watching each other as well as Connor. So I would say Eversion probably has the most!
It's not something I write often, but it's around! (two of these fics are over at my thespectaclesofthor AO3 account!)
As for the Underline universe, how far into Blue and Gold are we? Like percentage/fraction-wise? Or is it still up in the air? I know we have an end in sight for Black now and it makes me wonder.
No idea re: Blue and Gold, though I know neither of them will be anywhere near as long as Black. To the point where I'm hoping to wrap up Blue and Gold around the chapter 35-45 mark. But hope is a fickle thing, and it could be earlier, could be later. They were never designed to be stories that had huge development arcs or anything, they're pretty much done once the characters have bonded successfully / shared a successful heat. Both stories end before Underline the Black starts in terms of in-world timeline!
I'm so nervous about the next couple of chapters of Black. Gosh I love the fluff rn, but I am so scared for the whole Henton/Crielle mess to come back. I genuinely forgot that Henton was gonna be relevant and I looked at the tags recently and audibly went 'oh shit.' This is not a question, I just want you to know that I am Scared.
You should be : )
I mean, it'll be fine!
Well, both of those things can be true, lol.
I have so many questions about Silver but I am trying to restrain myself bc I know you must keep your secrets. Just please know I think about them. Could I ask what Augus and Corbyn's ages are?
They're in their fifties! I haven't gotten exact ages on them yet, but I know that if Alois complains about being old around Corbyn, Corbyn is just going to smile tiredly at him.
If you're still doing the OC asks thing, would you do #10 for Arden?
10. What's an AU that would be interesting to explore with your OC?
Honestly, I feel like his story is "closed." I don't really know how to explain this, but with some of the characters I write, I hit a point where I just don't need to write them again. Eran is the same.
I think it's telling (to me) that in all the stories I'm writing after Falling Falling Stars, each one of them is literally revolving around *another* character that isn't Arden (whether it's Gwyn, or Kadek, or Dr Gary). That doesn't mean Arden isn't around, I just have no drive to tell a version of his story again.
Some characters stay open mentally, and others sort of mentally go into the 'I'm done' space. Gwyn and Augus took forever to kind of walk into the 'I'm done' space (and they're still not fully there)! - Arden was there immediately after Falling Falling Stars was over.
Also they kind of choose that space? I stay open generally because I like writing AUs a lot, so it's like a weird sense of like a character walking away from me, vs. me being like 'I'm tired of you.' Arden walked away! He was happy, lol. So I literally have zero other story ideas for Arden and I think he'd be mad at me for trying to think up any.
I'm the anon that asked for more about Caleb and I just. Am fighting demons not to literally put 1-25 for him (I love mean tops)(And he is still in his mean to faber stage)(will he ever not be? that's not a actual question) I just...his and fabers dynamic is my kind of hurt lol (i wonder how he'd feel about having a tiny fanclub?)(i can support his buisness pursuits or something)
Anon I promise you that you're not the only one who cares about Caleb!! Also I love this douche guy, can't wait to show more of him!
If you limit yourself to like 3 questions from the meme each time, you can send more asks! I still have a few to get to in general. :D
#asks and answers#and technically#memey goodness#underline worldbuilding#mostly!!#Henton can't be as bad literally in this as he was in FFS#but he's still not...a good guy klafjsa#meanwhile in the chapters I'm up to#Crielle's back : )
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Daily excerpt for chapter 9 of Constellations:
'He ignored your safeword?' 'Funny, right? Someone like me going through that? Like, it's the least of what I deserved.' The silence was cold and Gwyn sat there aware of all the younger versions of himself that would have thought exactly that. He felt sick. He understood then with a horrible, heartbreaking clarity, why Efnisien had to stop seeing him. Because Efnisien lived with all those younger, judgemental versions of Gwyn. Because Efnisien had internalised blaming himself for everything, and he would have beaten Gwyn to the punch before he could have told Efnisien he deserved it. Because he would have. He fucking would have done that. He felt really sick, then, and he took a slow and deep breath, and swallowed the saliva that built in his mouth. 'It's not funny,' Gwyn said roughly. 'It's not funny that you went through that. You didn't deserve that. You don't deserve that. You don't deserve more than that.'
#daily excerpt#constellations#falling falling stars#efnisien ap wledig#gwyn ap nudd#found family#reconciliation#queer family#family fic#it's so hard to tag this like over and over again i have no idea what to tag this as#since everything else i do is a romance lol
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The latest UtR update on AO3 got me hooked and I could no longer constrain myself and had to read the other chapters on Patreon. Now I need to know: does Lucien have any redeeming character traits in the series or can I add him straight to the list of characters that deserve the worst? That attitude of his towards Faber made me so mad lmao
Hi anon!
This actually reminds me of the ask I got recently about how awful Augus is as a character and how it's impossible to consider him through a positive light after reading Falling Falling Stars. Because that's how he seems if you've never read him in anything else of mine!
My narrators are unreliable, anon. We only ever see Lucien very briefly through the jealous eyes of an insecure man.
(Spoilers for a future brief verbal encounter between Lucien and Faber in Underline the Red).
Lucien is an extremely vulnerable omega who is in an institution that has temporary custody of him. They control what he eats, what he does, whether he leaves or not (i.e. he's functionally imprisoned), who fucks him, if he gets to see anyone else, if he can talk to his partner and family back home and how often. He has significant psychiatric issues around his own insecurities re: jealously and his partner, and he clocks Faber as being in love with Caleb, and he's right.
And that's incredibly unethical of Faber, honestly, to not have disclosed any of this to Dr Gary (like Dr Gary will be right to consider firing him over this in the future). It puts Lucien's mental health in direct and severe jeopardy, and is ironically likely what causes his relapse that causes Caleb to suggest domestic discipline in the first place (oh, Faber, the irony).
Because Lucien's there to learn that actually a lot of his jealousy and insecurity is unfounded. Instead, he learns the opposite, that no matter who he bonds with, someone else is there loving his potential partner while he perceives himself as having very little control (and in the case of Hillview - this is true, all he has are his words).
He's a chronically disabled omega who needs a disability aid (walking stick) to get around, he's a second class citizen, he's agreed with his partner to stay at Hillview because they both recognise how sick he's getting.
Faber is not a mental health patient/omega like Lucien is. He's a staff member who is nursing unrequited loved to an alpha companion, that he's refused to disclose, while still interacting with Caleb and his omegas. Imho, while Lucien is very good at lashing out, he's not wrong to, and that's why Faber fully acknowledges what Lucien is saying and listens to him, and basically never interacts with him again, and avoids Caleb where possible.
Lucien's mean about it, but Lucien is right re: Faber trying to hide his feelings because he knows what will happen if people find out, and that it's also wrong/unfair to put Lucien in that position.
And Faber knows that.
So yeah. The reader is meant to hate Lucien on a surface level, in the same way that Faber does.
But consider that Faber also sometimes seems to hate all omegas. He finds the smell of their heats disgusting. It's actually pretty normal for people to go through a phase of rejecting the thing that they are, if that's something hated in society. Faber's oscillating mixed feelings of bitterness, resentment and cutting attitude is actually mirrored in Lucien.
Faber has thought extremely savage, scathing and unforgiving things himself to the people around him (and himself). Lucien responds to Faber like Faber is an omega (something Faber doesn't recognise yet), because Faber...kind of acts like one in moments like that. (Efnisien also picks up on this, Faber is not great to him in the beginning of Underline the Black, in a very specific way designed for Efnisien to pick up on, and for Gary to miss. Faber behaves jealously, and constantly suggests to Gary that he should get rid of Efnisien, before he finally adjusts to the absence of Gary in his life. Faber is possessive and manipulative!)
Lucien ultimately doesn't need any redeeming characteristics because he's a victim who is at Hillview to heal and Faber is jeopardising that. We can hate him, but that's just the fact. He didn't try to kill Kadek when he arrived at Hillview, he hasn't tried to destroy memories of James, things Efnisien has done even though we love him all the same (ideally). Lucien felt understandably jealous/insecure (literally the thing he's at Hillview to be treated for, safe from people who will be in love with his lover until Faber) and he lashed out meanly.
If a staff member of Hillview can't handle some rude words, they shouldn't work there.
But yeah, I like the Lucien and Faber encounter because they are both extremely similar people in some ways. They are both bitter, jealous, resentful people capable of very scathing thoughts (and words). The only difference is that in that moment, Faber is the recipient and we feel bad for him. I mean, I do feel bad for him. Faber is in a bad place psychologically, it's a horrible thing for him to experience.
If we were getting Lucien's story from his perspective, and saw the panic attacks he had afterwards, and the regression he went through, etc. it might be different. But it doesn't have to be! Lucien in that moment functions as a reality check for Faber, and a very effective one at that. We're meant to hate him, but also meant to understand that Faber's love for Caleb is not as subtle as he thinks it is in the sense that - omegas can see it for what it is.
I personally like the one moment where we see that Lucien might have a heart when Faber admits his parents are dead, and we can see that he doesn't react with savage satisfaction, but like Faber broke the narrative he'd built for himself in his own insecure, jealous, scared mind.
#asks and answers#underline the red#faber castle#lucien beaumont#efnisien ap wledig#dr gary konowalous#i've been writing for a long time now and generally speaking#if i want readers to hate a character they will#even if i really like that character#i really like lucien even if he can be a mean-spirited little goblin#when he's terrified of his future and potential security#but idk anon many of my characters#can be mean-spirited little goblins#efnisien introduced himself in this series with a panic stabbing#gary was a dickhead who imprisoned him until he pissed himself#no one here is a good guy#we just get to feel like they are when we read from their perspective#i love meaty characters so much#administrator gwyn wants this in the queue
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Daily excerpt from today's writing, chapter 13 of Constellations:
‘What’s better here, do you think? Telling Gwyn that you want to try, but that you might be causing yourself pain and you’d appreciate him being sensitive about it if you decide not to eat with him again for a while? Or not telling Gwyn at all, and keeping the potential outcome a secret?’ ‘I don’t know,’ Efnisien said. ‘So far it’s the latter, because I’m not eating around him, and my stomach still plays up. It’s so annoying. Like, I get that I have adhesions and there’s nothing surgeons can do without causing more adhesions, but after all this time…’ He heard himself and sighed heavily, putting his head in his hands. ‘I hate that it all comes back to her. It always goes back to her. And before you talk about my flawed thinking or whatever, just… Just don’t.’ ‘I wasn’t going to do that,’ Mika said. ‘No banter right now, just real talk.’ ‘You’re too old to say “real talk.”’ ‘I know you’re really upset when you come at my age,’ Mika said primly, before softening again. ‘Efnisien, this does come back to her. She tried to kill you. She did so in an extremely agonising way, that has lasting, permanent effects. The surgeons can’t cure the lingering pain and other digestive issues that you have, and you can’t ever truly escape the reminder that she never stopped victimising you. Even right at the end. That’s hard, Efnisien.’ ‘That’s probably how Gwyn feels about the scars I gave him.’ ‘Maybe, maybe not,’ Mika said. ‘This isn’t about what you did to Gwyn right now.’ ‘I know,’ Efnisien said. He was deflecting. He was trying not to “feel his pain” or whatever fucking shit he was doing. Avoidance was his greatest skill, and it was so annoying that everyone wanted him to unpack it all the time.
Except they didn’t. Mika would be fine with it if Efnisien never ate around Gwyn. Gwyn would keep seeing him. Arden wasn’t going to pressure him. They’d all support him not trying to push himself on this. Efnisien dropped a hand to his belly, and thought about Arden calling it a tummy when it was sore. This was all just…fragile.
#daily excerpt#constellations#gwyn ap nudd#efnisien ap wledig#mika ferguson#falling falling stars#thank you all for voting!!!!#it's helped so much
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Daily excerpt from today's editing, chapter 93 of Underline the Black:
‘They’re all omegas, aren’t they?’ ‘Yes.’ ‘How did they have someone like James? I didn’t know two omegas could do that.’ ‘It’s rare,’ Gary said. He stretched again and settled, his muscles looser under Efnisien’s fingers. The trust felt really fucking good. Efnisien wanted to do this again. ‘It’s very rare. But it happens. Just like two alphas can have an omega child.’ ‘And she can drive on her own. I know some omegas can drive, but who gave her permission?’ ‘No one,’ Gary said. ‘She has a birth certificate. She’s registered. It’s harder for omegas to do things like that on their own, but it’s possible. They have to go through longer paperwork processes, the tests are unfairly biased against them, but a driving licence is possible. Education is a lot harder. Most of the schools are beta-alpha schools only, and don’t permit any omegas at all. There are stories of omegas who have died for a beta-alpha level education through the use of suppressants.’ ‘Shit. So they can learn university level stuff? Like beta-alpha level?’ Efnisien said “they,” but he almost said “we.” In that moment, he wanted to know what kind of brain he was born with. He knew what the omega theory modules said, but he wanted to hear it from Gary. ‘Of course they can. There’s nothing wrong with their minds,’ Gary said. ‘All studies done in fair and accommodating circumstances show there’s no difference. The biggest issue is bigotry. Omegas are raised in families that don’t always care about their literacy, or getting them past year six or seven at school. That schooling is often done at home, and sometimes the omega isn’t being treated well, or is expected to work as a cleaner, or a cook, or more. So the studies that show omegas fail at university beta-alpha levels have never fully accounted for the biased background. The myth of omegas being unable to think intelligently past a certain level – so they’re more suited to serve their alphas – is because we’ve raised them to be that way.’
#daily excerpt#underline the black#omegaverse#efnisien ap wledig#dr gary konowalous#isn't it funny how omegaverse is one of the most stealth political genres out there
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I do think that in the Mabinogion the family of Llŷr is the chillest bunch, but Efnisien is just there lurking in the background with a steel chair to ruin everybody's day. Even when he's not slashing the Irish entourage's horses to ribbons he's just fuckin doing his best to stir the pot. He thrives on chaos. He and Gwydion would be buds but they'd also LOATHE each other, I feel.
Both are brothers who always feel like outsiders to me.
Efnisien because he is literally always on the periphery of his family unit and therefore is an unknown quantity in regards to things, and Gwydion because he is like a panther or lynx just stalking, stalking, stalking, wanting the best outcome to benefit himself, uncaring of those caught in the crossfire. I think they have very similar views of the world.
Unrepentant and unapologetic, that's how they are.
I don't think Efnisien would've apologised in such a drastic way if he hadn't thought 'fuck, I'll die too,' and thrown himself in the cauldron rather than face-off against an Irishman. And even then it's hardly an apology. He gets away scot-free with being the one who incited war. The Irish court's treatment of his half-sister was because of him.
And Gwydion?
He never apologises.
Not to Goewin. Not to Aranrhod. Not even to Pryderi's shade. Even Lleu - his son (ostensibly, yes, his nephew but Gwydion is his father. The text says as much although it's read between the lines) the literal ruler of Gwynedd after Math's death - is never seen as anything other than an extension by Gwydion of himself.
Also, both, I think, treat the women in their families as disposable or, certainly, nothing more than obstacles. Efnisien isn't cut up about Branwen's engagement. He's just angered that Brân and Manawydan, and presumably Nisien, didn't involve him in the negotiations. And when he chucks Gwern into the fire and sees his half-sister try to jump into the flames too he just let's her do so without a care.
And Gwydion? Well, his treatment of Goewin is startlingly horrid. And then Aranrhod? He raped her and humiliated her, just as he and Gilfaethwy did to Goewin. And then when she, rightfully, wants to be left alone and not be confronted with this son - who she, by the way, doesn't want to acknowledge - he forces her to break the tyngedau she set upon Lleu at great personal humiliation.
I just think there's a lot to be said for these two. Both are very much concerned with their places in the world and the pecking order.
Fuck everybody else.
#welsh mythology#the mabinogion#mabinogion#welsh myth#y mabinogi#y mabinogion#celtic mythology#welsh folklore#the mabinogi#gwydion ap dôn#efnisien ap euroswydd#thr family of dôn#the family of llŷr#the four branches of the mabinogi#pedair cainc y mabinogi#arthuriana#arthurian legend#mabinogi
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Daily excerpt from chapter 8 of Constellations:
‘I think Lludd really hurt him,’ Gwyn said, his voice breaking. ‘I know he body-checked Efnisien sometimes. Like, slammed him into walls by shouldering him really hard. He was such a petty… I once saw him stick his foot out from under the table, and Efnisien tripped and slammed into the counter, jarring his arm really badly.’ ‘Was Crielle there?’ Gwyn nodded. ‘She kind of cooed over him, but she…’ Gwyn frowned at the memory that came to life in his mind. ‘She grabbed his arm where he’d hurt it,’ Gwyn said. ‘He made a noise, like it hurt, but it was- It was like he didn’t want to make it. I thought at the time that she mustn’t have realised where he’d hurt himself because she didn’t move her hand away. But…maybe she did.’ He stared ahead blankly. That was something she’d been willing to do in front of all of them, and Efnisien hadn’t said a word of complaint. He hadn’t even told her to stop. Gwyn felt sick. ‘Maybe she did,’ Chelsea said in agreement. ‘It’s also possible that your father was being careful just how much he was hurting Efnisien around you all, in order to avoid retribution from his wife. Crielle was everyone’s problem, and you all had to navigate her in different ways, and that included Lludd.’ ‘I get so fucking tired of secrets,’ Gwyn said with quiet vehemence.
#daily excerpt#fae tales au#fae tales#constellations#falling falling stars#gwyn ap nudd#efnisien ap wledig#trauma recovery#ptsd recovery#found family#child abuse#writing about these guys is in some ways so satisfying#especially getting to be a fly on the wall in gwyn's therapy sessions
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