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rottenpumpkin13 · 5 months ago
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Is remembering that Cody Christian was in Pretty Little Liars and going "THAT'S WHERE I KNOW HIM FROM" a universal experience or
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buckybarnesss · 1 year ago
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Can we start a discussion? When it comes to Teen Wolf & Shipping. Do you know of any other age difference ships that don't get as much pushback that Sterek does? Such as Marrish, Because despite the antis complaining against it it's still in the top 3 ships of all time.
haha so we've chosen violence this morning.
@dear-massacre and i have brought this up before.
teen wolf is not the show to be watching if you're looking for "unproblematic" content. age gap ships have always been like at the bottom of issues with the show lol.
sterek is the ship that has always gotten the most push back. mostly because of it's exposure and the way the show queerbaited the fuck outta it. it's the one most people are aware of even if they haven't watched the show. therefore, it's the one that gets the focus.
hold on to your butts.
now i didn't watch s5 till the show had ended but people did find the age gap concerning and gross between jordan and lydia despite lydia being 18 at the time.
lydia turned 18 in season 4. natalie and her discuss this at the lake house i believe in time of death. this makes the birthday we see for lydia in party guessed her 17th birthday.
parrish tells jared in riddled that he's 24. by the time of 5a which takes place during the first semester of lydia's senior year 2012 she would've still been 18 and he would've been 25 because 3b was the first semester of their junior year 2011 so 5a is a year later.
jordan and lydia have a 7 year difference. while their age gap is concerning because of the power dynamics jordan wasn't grooming her and it wasn't illegal. i think the writing shifted to try to imply that they were drawn to each other because of the banshee and hellhound connection.
jordan giving those andy dwyer vibes.
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now let's take a look at thiam. a pretty popular and accepted ship.
theo is the same age as our core characters. he is in their grade and knew them when he was young.
our baby beta liam was a freshman when he was introduced so that makes him a sophomore when theo is introduced in 5a.
by the time theo and liam become frenemies the age difference between them is basically the original age difference from the pilot presentation script as derek and stiles.
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aiden and ethan were both romantically and sexually involved with lydia and danny in season 3 despite making it clear they were only pretending to be high schoolers. they may have been in their early 20s but they were adults fucking minors by deception.
danny's whole dating history is suspect too due to it being implied he had an older boyfriend and he was seen going to a gay club. like what. he's supposed to be the same age as our core gang. he did have a mild thing for matt though who was at least a peer.
there's also harris being shown to be at the rave with a much younger woman (21 he says). like bruh. this is never addressed.
mason and corey. liam and hayden. stiles and malia. lydia and jackson. allison and isaac. scott and allison. lydia and stiles. scott and kira. paige and derek.
those are all age appropriate actual canon relationships. i would also add derek and braeden too.
no one gives one episode wonder heather shit about kissing stiles nonconsensually either.
derek's age is never canonically given but like c'mon. in s1 he doesn't act that much older than scott and stiles. he acts like their peer.
jeff and the writers did age him up a bit because they realized they made derek 13 when he was involved with kate. they were uncomfortable with him that young and instead pushed it up to near 16. (still fucked).
i've seen it discussed on the subreddit (🤮) and people seem to deluded themselves into thinking derek was older when he and kate were involved. ding dong they are wrong.
visionary tells us plainly that derek and paige were sophomores (hello scott parallels) and kate got her nasty hands on him not long after paige died.
i think after sterek the most discussed age gap issue discussed is derek's seduction/enticement of erica. it was definitely out of pocket and questionable behavior on his part but it is rarely brought up by the antis that erica jumped him and kissed him nonconsensually later. or the manipulation and rape by deception jennifer commits.
notice a theme? people age up derek to try to say what kate did wasn't grooming and statutory rape and deny that what jennifer did was also rape. they'll deny derek any and all victimhood while turning it around on him calling him an abuser towards stiles and basically calling him a pedophile because of the sterek ship. antis really want to make a canonical victim of multiple instances of sexual abuse into the abuser.
or worse they'll call real life people these things over a fictional ship.
where have i heard this kind of narrative before i wonder? 🙄
besides, derek only does the steering wheel thing in retaliation for stiles using his body as enticement for danny without his permission. stiles is the one who did the bad thing and crossed a boundary. it's not nice or really acceptable for derek to harm stiles like that but there's context to the action. it wasn't random. it was pointed. he never does anything like this again and in fact spends a vast majority of his time trying to protect stiles.
nothing sexual or even overtly romantic occurred between derek and stiles in canon. their only crime was having too much chemistry.
the antis are mad because people ship sterek and it's not even canon. it's all fanon. sure i'm of the belief a deep connection and attraction is there between them but it's all subtextual and never acted on by either party.
let me reiterate this: antis are mad over a hypothetical ship of two fictional characters that never happened in the source material.
besides, by the time the show ends and i mean the last, last scene there's been a 2 year time jump. when the show ends it's 2015. stiles would've been 20 fucking years old and by the time of the movie he's in his 30s.
i think by then he'd be allowed to ride derek's dick off into the sunset if he wanted.
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many-gay-magpies · 3 months ago
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For the ask game thing! If they haven’t been asked yet I’m super curious about 8, 15, 20, 23 & 24 (you do NOT have to answer all of those I’m just like super nosey and also pester-y)
oh thank you, i love to yap and i am absolutely answering all of these kdbfjfbfn (answering most of the non-fandom-specific questions about dbda because. well yeah)
8: i hope more people will come to appreciate...
honestly there are a ton of people that appreciate crystal in this fandom, and i am very gratified by the amount of people and posts i see preaching that she needs more appreciation/understanding/love, but like. there will never be enough crystal appreciation in my opinion. and while a lot of people love her character just as much as i do, there are also people (mostly in fics) that treat her more as an afterthought/backdrop for the boys or don't seem to really like her for her actual canonical traits, so i absolutely want more people to appreciate the beautiful mess that is crystal palace. and hey theres a whole crystal appreciation week coming up so thats gonna rock!!
although on a non dbd note. SCOTT MCCALL. hes literally the main character of teen wolf and hes amazing please love him. also alan deaton, he rocks and he gets far too much hate
15: the character that always makes me smile
unless its something angsty, i smile so fucking stupid every time i see charles rowland and his stupid pretty face i swear. his smile and goofiness and HAPPINESS are utterly contagious and i love him so much
20: my very first fandom
it was probably my little pony jfbjfbfjf. i'm talking when i was like,, i dunno eight? i wrote a whole fanfic for it in the notes of my service-less basically-ipod-with-extra-features little phone and made cheesy nextgens and everything. and if it wasn't mlp then it was how to train your dragon for sure, i was obsessed with reading fics from the dragons' POVs where they found more night furies and stuff. also crossovers. i had a grand old time!
23: the fandom i'm curious about because of a mutual
i can't think of any i'm interested because of a MUTUAL SPECIFICALLY, but god the amount of people putting that gay firefighter show on my dash has gotten me INTRIGUED. i actually went and tried to watch it but i couldn't and the intrigue has faded with my failure but its still there a little bit. also bridgerton, i've been seeing lots of bridgerton on the dash and it is tempting me. OH ALSO! i almost forgot, but interview with a vampire! and i actually did give into temptation with that one and watch the first episode while eating dinner a couple nights ago, it was absolutely amazing.
24: how has fandom positively impacted my life?
i think the biggest positive impact i've gotten from fandom is the sheer volume of interactions ive had with other people, and the friends i've gotten from that. like, i still have you from when i was mainly posting about teen wolf, and i've made so many great connections in the dbd fandom, whether they're just people i've made an impression on with my art and writing or people i've formed full friendships with (shoutout to nimm @babyseraphim for being probably the best friend ive made in this fandom? i love how loving dbd enabled me to meet and connect with you over so much OTHER stuff we have in common).
i really just love being able to connect with so many people over common interests and opinions; i've gotten a lot more outgoing/confident lately, irl as well as online, and i feel like fandom is at least partially to thank for that. ❤️
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patolemus · 7 months ago
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Sorry, if I'm being annoying' I'm just excited to have someone who likes to talk about Teen Wolf but I think the way I view Derek stems from the fact that I stared watching Teen Wolf when season 3 premiered and then went back and watched season 1 & 2. Derek from season 3 is different from season 1 Derek, I think that's one of the biggest reason why it wasn't my immediate ship.
Also, Stydia was the big ship in season 3 and that was the ship I latched on to and now I wonder how different things would have been if I had started watching it during season 1. I probably would've shipped both but had a better understanding of Derek.
Don’t apologize! I love asks and I love talking about teen wolf. You’re not being annoying in the slightest.
Ok so suddenly I understand a lot more of why you always viewed Derek as an adult lol, because he was a veritable mess in the earliest seasons and I personally wouldn’t trust him to boil water, let alone adult ANYTHING.
I have done an analysis on this before (if you want to read more about it the post is here, and it clarifies a similar issue, which is Derek’s inconsistent age in the show), but basically the thing is the show writers hadn’t planned on Derek being as important as he turned out, so they left many details unclear. As the seasons progressed, they realized what they wanted to do with him, but by then he was already established as something else (ie, he was viewed as younger) so they retconned him. That’s why you see a visible shift between seasons 2 and 3.
I love stydia, but I never saw them as anything but friends. That’s because sometimes I latch onto a ship and just don’t see anything else, but that’s merely a me thing and doesn’t invalidate stydia shippers. Sterek has just always felt more natural to me, because the progression of their relationship has a lot of undertones most relationships in teen wolf don’t have. It plays into the show vs tell that Jeff Davies loves to use, whether you view it as platonic or romantic. They have incredible chemistry, and that was clear from s1 unlike with stydia, so that’s probably why I didn’t ship them instead.
Then there’s also the ton of sterek subtext in s3. It’s the natural culmination of their relationship. Seasons 1 and 2 are much more obvious about them (because in the earliest seasons their romance was still an option they were considering) and the writers purposely tried not to give them many scenes together after that. The actors even talk about how they wanted more scenes, or how many of their scenes were cut from the final episodes. That’s on purpose, and it’s why it doesn’t feel like they have much relevance unless you’re looking for it.
Regarding Derek, the first two seasons are key to understand his character. He mellows out in the later seasons as part of his new role of being a mentor and being sided with the adults, but he was very different at first. That’s mainly due to unresolved trauma and being constantly under pressure. You can see how he slowly starts to heal as the seasons progress.
This got way too long, so I apologize if it’s annoying or overwhelming. Hope it helps, and don’t hesitate to shoot me an ask or a message if you want to talk more about teen wolf! I swear I do talk about things other than sterek lol.
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kitkatisweird7 · 6 months ago
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My TV Watchlist
Over the years, I have had a ridiculously long backlog with regards to the shows I have yet to watch. As the ultra nerd who is into all kinds of random stuff, this can be hard to keep track of. So I thought I'd log a few of them here on Tumblr and perhaps I'll discuss them as I go. It's not even a fraction of the backlog but rather shows I have decided to prioritise.
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Star Trek: The Next Generation.
I have had Star Trek on the watchlist for quite some time. I did attempt The Original Series but I wasn't overly into it as an introduction to the franchise. I suspect I'll get more into it if and when I go back. But my dad has always raved about Star Trek. While I grew up on Star Wars, dad was into Star Trek from childhood up till now. So I've always been curious about the franchise. So I figured I'd check out the series that everyone seems to adore. Watching the first episode as I type, I'm quite liking it and have enjoyed the random episodes of the show I've seen on SyFy over the last couple of years.
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Charmed.
Strictly speaking I have already started Charmed, about a year ago. I quite liked what I saw, but didn't get chance to fully get into it. The general premise is lovely and it's just a cute little show. It did, however, get me hooked on the song Torn in the short time I spent with it. 90s fantasy stuff that teens were into is generally just a delight. Not overly optimistic about later seasons as I know drama led to a cast change, but such is the way of things.
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Supernatural.
I should know better than to mention this show here. I'm well aware of the opinions of people on this show and the culture surrounding it, my second favourite show and another show in the early 2010s. Whatever that was all about, I'm really not interested. What I'm into is the recontextualization of old tales. Myths and legends brought into the modern day with a decent cast. Will I get that with Supernatural? Who knows. But a friend of mine was really into the show so I'm gonna trust her judgement as she is now piling through Buffy, my favourite show of all time, following a recommendation from me on the night we met. So I'm gonna guess that we've got similar enough taste that I'm going to at least find the show pleasurable enough to watch. Whether I'll like it more or less than Shadowhunters, be that the books, the film or the show, remains to be seen.
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Stargate SG-1.
Stargate is one weird show. I didn't even KNOW it was a show when I first came across a Stargate. See, in a Star Wars Jedi Academy mod there is a map called Stargate and I had initially assumed it to be a random creation of someone added because the aesthetics kind of fit. But as it happens that is not quite the case. Turns out it was a movie turned show with multiple spin offs. It seems to be the kind of thing many sci fi nerds get into. Similarly to Star Trek, I have actually seen some of this show. I tend to leave SyFy on at night and fall asleep watching Stargate so I've seen some weird stuff. The general premise of the show is appealing, what more can I say? I'm excited to that.
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Teen Wolf.
If I'm being honest, I don't even know why I've bothered putting this show on the list. The person who spent years recommending it to me is no longer part of my life and I don't particularly trust their perspective on anything enough to sit down and watch several series of a show. But having said that, werewolves plus teenage life sounds rather appealing. Fantasy works best when put at odds with teenage life in my opinion. It's why Buffy the Vampire Slayer is my favourite show of all time. But the balance is vital and if this show doesn't have it right, then I may have some issues with it. But when I DO go into this show, I shall do so with an open mind. Regardless of where the idea to watch it originally came from all those years ago
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Red Dwarf.
Lastly, we've got another one from my dad. He once gave me a USB with 6 episodes of the show on it which regrettably I never watched. Thankfully, I am British and it is on iPlayer. I've heard from various sources over the years how good this one is, as a Sci-Fi comedy. Really looking forward to diving into it for that reason. I may wind up doing this one in between another show once I finish watching Sherlock, which really should not have taken 8 years given the show is 4 series long. In any case, one good day with that show should knock it out and open up the secondary show slot given I'm down to the last 3 episodes. Red Dwarf will be a nice change of pace as most of the "new" stuff I watch atm is a lot more high energy given I'm running out of comedies that actually interest me.
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Anyways, that's the 6 shows that I've currently got resting towards the top of the backlog. That doesn't necessarily mean things won't get queue jumped. I mean, Hunger Games jumped the queue so I could try to bond with someone so I'm not above bumping shows up for other reasons than actual interest but that's how they sit at the moment. And given Firefly was supposed to be next, around a year ago, I've pretty much proven I have absolutely no rules as to what goes where. As I have no idea if I even WILL watch Firefly any time soon. Another show I only have any perception of because of that Jedi Academy mod, given the presence of the Serenity in it. Likewise, Dollhouse found itself dropping from top priority to "meh, when I get back around to it".
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ahelluvahigh · 1 month ago
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Respond to the following prompts out of character, then tag others you'd like to get to know a little bit better.
Roleplayer name: Axel
Roleplayer pronouns: He/him she/ her they/them
Muse name(s): A bunch of demons.
Preferred communication: Not... this website.
Experience: Putting this under a readmore because I decided to make it a mini novel.
Twenty years ago the good people of Gametalk's Fire Emblem forum told me about this super cool thing called roleplaying. It's like writing fanfiction but you write alongside others. There was even another part of the website dedicated to it. Fandoms went:
Fire Emblem
Yu Yu Hakusho
Yami no Matsuei / Gravitation (my introduction to gay people existing in media as something other than a joke... also not shutting the fuck up about a pretty boi serial killer)
Wolf's Rain
Kingdom Hearts
Naruto
In 2006-2007 the site went down and the Naruto crew migrated to Myspace.
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children also came out.
Kingdom Hearts characters came back alongside new Final Fantasy 7 muses. Lived their happily for three years.
Drama happened.
Jumped ship away from anime/ video games to the X-men/ Marvel fandom.
2010/2011 was dragged to tumblr via Maurader's Era Harry Potter rps with at-the-time-girlfriend. (it's so freaky that some of my students are into this now and I'm like they can never know I was in these trenches once only to frequently comment on their Wolfstar obsession.)
Discovered The Mortal Instruments, Teen Wolf, and Once Upon a Time. There was a lot of crossovers between those three fandoms.
2015. Broke up with girlfriend. Had to find a different fandom because she very much got our fandoms in the divorce.
Hey, ya know what used to make me really happy? Gorgeous videogame bois.
Back to the Square Enix fandom. Now featuring sassy twink God from The World Ends With You.
Black Butler is published by Square Enix.
DeMoNs.
Girl I was crushing on asked if I had ever played Dramatical Murder.
Explaining Dramatical Murder to people who have not played Dramatical Murder is a choice.
Decided logging in and out of blogs was tiring, so I made a hub blog and made a bunch of sideblogs. Brought back a bunch of anime and video game muses back.
Yami no Matsuei
Black Butler
Pokemon
Everything Square Enix touches
Wolf's Rain
Digimon
Dramatical Murder
Yu Yu Hakusho
Sailor Moon
Gravitation
Danganronpa
Realized the Yu Gi Oh RPC is massive.
Had a good time there for a bit. Met Gold (Heeeey~)
Covid happened and gave me the time to play Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Fire Emblem took over my life again.
Drama happened and I will never discuss Fire Emblem with anyone ever again.
A friend on Discord asked Have you ever seen Hazbin Hotel?
I said no. He sent me a link to the pilot. I did not watch it.
Went back to the YuGiOh RPC.
Drama happened.
Tried to stick it out but it just wasn't the same.
Eight months after friend sent me the link to Hazbin Hotel, a combination of hearing Phantom by Natewantstobattle on my Pandora station and watching a video on Tumblr Sexy Men reminded me that I should maybe give that thing my friend sent a watch.
November 7th 2021- Initial response: This is cute. I like it! Where's the rest of it? ... HOW DOES THIS THING WITH ONE EPISODE HAVE SO MUCH OF A FANDOM?
I go to Wendy's.
Can't stop thinking about Hazbin Hotel.
Ask some people if they've ever heard of it.
Get told people on Tumblr hate Hazbin Hotel and it's crazy triggering to some people and to not let anyone know I like it.
November 8th: Can't stop thinking about Hazbin Hotel.
Make a blog for Alastor.
Get scared.
Do nothing with it for three weeks.
Can't stop thinking about Hazbin Hotel for three straight weeks.
Say 'fuck it' and promo blog.
Do not get burned at stake. Make a Cherri Bomb sideblog. Then an Arackniss sideblog. Icy blue peacock drops. Adam is revealed and I lose my shit over the Adam-and-Lilith mythology. Blitz continues to be a mood. Sexy fox drops. Show airs. Friend says you should write Val. I say haha, nah. I learn that moths squeak.
I've been here for three years. I can't think of anything that has brought me nearly as much consistent joy as this damn demon show.
(I don't know if I should dub November 7th or 8th as Hazbin Day because I watched it for the first time on the 7th (and remember everything about that day so vividly) but the brain rot really got me on the 8th.
Preferred roleplay type: Generally paragraph/multi paragraph. I love it when little one line dash commentary becomes full on paragraph / multi paragraph works of art.
For the general mood of threads? I feel like I dabble in a mix of things, but... I am fully aware that angst / hurt/comfort are my Bat Signal and if someone posts something in that vein I'll eyes emoji and drop everything to answer it.
Pet peeves & dealbreakers: Guilt tripping / vagueing for replies, vagueing that someone doesn't rp a character correctly... vagueing in general.
Dealbreaker? Acting as if you're THE portrayal of a character, not tagging common triggers. Trying to stir up drama.
If you're reading this, don't worry, you do not do this (but hello, fellow anxiety-ridden internet dweller.) After the back-to-back Fire Emblem/ YuGiOh debacle I... block religiously.
Best time to write: Weekends and... school year related holidays. I'm a middle school teacher.
Are you like your muse? Honestly? Out of all the ones I write here, the one I have the most in common with is Blitz. I am self-destructive / self-loathing, cut myself out of pictures, frequently tell my plant-loving bird-coded partner that they're outrageously out of my league... I am a disaster.
tagged by @arachn0philia
tagging: I'm a couple days behind on this and I don't know who has / who wants to do it, so, steal it if you'd like. Say I tagged you. :>
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mlobsters · 7 months ago
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supernatural s1e2 wendigo (teleplay: eric kripke, story: ron milbauer, terri hughes burton)
(this is a rewatch, so spoilers abound)
quelled my irrational anxiety long enough to start the rewatch and recap what i have not yet recapped and thank fuck for that because not having my scheduled evening task was not going well. i am staunchly ignoring the not-so-distant future where i will again be out-of-task.
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fun fact this is the first screenshot i took while watching this show, long before i considered doing these posts. brotherly chat at the fire, if i recall correctly. we'll soon see! thought it'd be a fun easy draw because it's almost entirely dark with the little kiss of light around his profile.
DEAN You okay? SAM Yeah, I'm fine. DEAN Another nightmare? You wanna drive for a while? SAM Dean, your whole life you never once asked me that. DEAN Just thought you might want to. Never mind. SAM Look, man, you're worried about me. I get it, and thank you, but I'm perfectly okay. DEAN Mm-hm.
now if that isn't love
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SAM What, are you cruising for a hookup or something? DEAN What do you mean? SAM The coordinates point to Blackwater Ridge, so what are we waiting for? Let's just go find Dad. I mean, why even talk to this girl? DEAN I don't know, maybe we should know what we're walking into before we actually walk into it? SAM What? DEAN Since when are you all shoot first ask questions later, anyway? SAM Since now.
little cheesy in execution (blaming some of this on the music honestly*) but whatever :p sammy's a new man, hardened by his loss and grief 😤
*guess who did the music this episode 🤪
was curious since this is the same director as the pilot, if he did more episodes this seasons - nope, just 1x01 and 1x02. but this little quote on his wiki page
David Nutter, even with his extensive experience in the industry, was impressed by Padalecki and Ackles' chemistry. Never have I done a show where two actors clicked so well together. These guys had never met each other before and it was like they were instantly brothers.S1Com
we're all sending up our thanks for whatever led to them being cast, for real
HALEY Our parents are gone. It's just my two brothers and me. We all keep pretty close tabs on each other.
coming in hot already with sibling parallels. even when john was alive, he wasn't around and dean's the father mother brother situation. and we've got a vulnerable lookin little brother here we're all gonna be fighting over to take care of
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DEAN Well, we'll find your brother. We're heading out to Blackwater Ridge first thing. HALEY Then maybe I'll see you there. Look, I can't sit around here anymore. So I hired a guy. I'm heading out in the morning, and I'm gonna find Tommy myself. DEAN I think I know how you feel.
looking for dad, looking for sam after dad is gone...
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s1e2 / s5e14
oh, my dear old friend, untitled 1 and 2!! and what kind of background is this! lol my spn desktop background update tag for all my riveting screenshots of their laptop desktop backgrounds - apparently i called this their snazzy background when it was used in s5, but damn dude look at the coloring differences. how warm/red the s5 is in comparison. skateboard on a chest i guess is what's happening there
aw man, apparently the actress playing the sister, gina holden, was claudia stilinski in an episode of teen wolf but her scene got deleted. and little brother there alden ehrenreich was han solo in solo: a star wars story (which i haven't seen.)
i do know i know someone in this episode though, little surprised i didn't do a hey i know you post for it actually. not sure when the first one i did for spn was. s1e11 scarecrow apparently!
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s1e2 callum keith rennie as roy / the killing s1e4 as rick felder / the x-files s1e15 as tommy / existenz (1999) as hugo carlaw
we got an xfiles and the killing alum, and he was in existenz! in fact i did a hey i know you for him when i was rewatching the xfiles a few years ago 😂
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someone give this child a hug (and the actor was actually a kid, 16)
DEAN Sam and I are brothers, and we're looking for our father. He might be here, we don't know. I just figured that you and me, we're in the same boat. HALEY Why didn't you just tell me that from the start? DEAN I'm telling you now. 'sides, it's probably the most honest I've ever been with a woman. ...ever. So we okay?
oh yeah, dean? what about spilling your guts about all the family secrets to cassie, huh?? lol. gotta maintain your asshole-man image
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wonder if the peanut m&ms was the only actual brand placement they did, their production design people were always whipping up fun fake branded drinks and foodstuff
hey, it's one of the xfiles-y sounds (when she says "our packs!") i didn't notice this until way way later. grabbed a clip of it from 10x12 compared to the same effect used in the xf movie fight the future (because i happened to know where the sound was in that movie, it's def a standard xf score sound.) i think it was just a lot more forward in that s10 clip, maybe that's why it caught my ear and had slid by unnoticed before.
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cannot get over him looking like the saddest teenaged baby brother in all the lands
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DEAN You wanna tell me what's going on in that freaky head of yours? SAM Dean— DEAN No, you're not fine. You're like a powder keg, man, it's not like you. I'm supposed to be the belligerent one, remember? SAM Dad's not here. I mean, that much we know for sure, right? He would have left us a message, a sign, right?
the brotherly chats *chef's kiss*
SAM Then let's get these people back to town and let's hit the road. Go find Dad. I mean, why are we still even here? DEAN This is why. This book. This is Dad's single most valuable possession—everything he knows about every evil thing is in here. And he's passed it on to us. I think he wants us to pick up where he left off. You know, saving people, hunting things. The family business.
the tagline that never dies
SAM That makes no sense. Why doesn't he just—call us? Why doesn't he—tell us what he wants, tell us where he is? DEAN I dunno. But the way I see it, Dad's giving us a job to do, and I intend to do it.
for real, sam. dad's an ass :p i think someone justified it to me that john couldn't contact them directly because of the demons watching him and he didn't want to lead them to the boys
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SAM Dean...no. I gotta find Dad. I gotta find Jessica's killer. It's the only thing I can think about. DEAN Okay, all right, Sam, we'll find them, I promise. Listen to me. You've gotta prepare yourself. I mean, this search could take a while, and all that anger, you can't keep it burning over the long haul. It's gonna kill you. You gotta have patience, man. SAM How do you do it? How does Dad do it?
oh, sam.
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DEAN Well for one, them. I mean, I figure our family's so screwed to hell, maybe we can help some others. Makes things a little bit more bearable. I'll tell you what else helps. Killing as many evil sons of bitches as I possibly can.
it's this kind of thing that grabbed me by the throat early on. clear communication, sam has been deflecting but he opened up a crack after dean gently pushed again. and dean is honest and kind, trying to take care of sam. ugh. hurt/comfort my beloved.
buh, this action music when roy gets yoinked by the monster is not great.
SAM So we've got half a chance in the daylight. And I for one want to kill this evil son of a bitch.
snorted. i swear sam got stuck with some cheesy lines back in the day. part of my hot take theory of why jackles's acting stood out more to me initially, i think he just got better dialogue. padalecki hit it out of the park with those moments with jackles, but same episode he had a lot of like... i'm taking charge of the situation moments that felt awkward
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sammy brooding with dad's journal, dean staring at sam for a very long time, he's just a baby 🥺
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we're all having a moment
this is why i reached the 30 image limit when i rewatched 1x01 :p
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LOL. we can't swear really, but we're gonna use the hell out of the words we can say
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baby brother clinging on to anyone at this point, sammy holding the line
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kinda looks like the game of thrones night king lol
via wiki
Eric Kripke had long been critical of this episode, particularly because he felt the creature wasn't successfully scary. "He looked more like Gollum's tall, gangly cousin than anything else", he says in Supernatural: The Official Companion Season 2. However on February 11, 2018 he tweeted: "I have something shocking, even sacrilegious to say: I watched #Wendigo with my son for the first time in over 10 years. And it wasn't bad at all. 2005 effects were lame, but it was scary. Plus young Han Solo! I'm taking it off my shit list. #spnfamily @cw_spn"
inexplicably some sort of jaguar type roar as the wendigo is burning
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HALEY So I don't know how to thank you. DEAN smirks lasciviously. HALEY smiles despite herself. HALEY Must you cheapen the moment? DEAN Yeah.
very cute. deflecting from dealing with the gratitude and lightening the moment
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DEAN Sam, you know we're gonna find Dad, right? SAM Yeah, I know. But in the meantime? I'm driving.
this scene obviously has been gif'd to death but i didn't really remember the context and it makes it all the better. sam gets to return the very long staring moment, and lets dean give him a little treat to take care of him and make him feel better that he declined earlier
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and jared, you made a choice with that expression. I think that look could be enough to launch a thousand ships alone. the line feels like it should be kind of teasing mischievous little brother vibes, but his face says unbearable affection and something I'd expect more out of a romantic-dynamic teasing feel. wild
my cup runneth over
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So I finally sat down and watched the Teen Wolf movie, but it's been out long enough that I feel like it's okay to talk about, but just in case... 🚫*spoilers ahead*🚫
WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK WAS THIS?!?!
1st complaint: literally every single romantic relationship for Malia has felt incredibly forced, even in the show, but none more than whatever the hell she and Parrish had! I might except some arguments for Stalia, but I always knew Stydia would be endgame...
Speaking of Stydia... let's talk about my 2nd complaint which is that trash throw away ✨️reason for Lydia leaving Stiles✨️ "idea" are you- are you really telling me, the girl that was able to convince a whole group of people and HIS FATHER that Stiles even existed after everyone forgot him and was able to bring him back into existence would just... leave him after a DREAM?!?! She fought against everyone telling her she was crazy for remembering someone who supposedly never existed, but she wouldn't fight for a reason to stay with the love of her life??? Cause that's not the Lydia I remember! She was stubborn, brave, and most of all she believed in her ideas cause she knew how smart she was! This just seemed like the "must use woman's pain to further plot" trope. On top of having a reason for Stiles not to be there since Dylan couldn't be in the movie.
3rd complaint: did none of the relationships the show workout or something? Like... why did Scott AND Argent not want Melissa to know they were in town? Argent and Melissa were so cute! She helped him heal and move on, he actually liked and let her be the strong independent woman she always was. I don't particularly care that Allison came back, I wasn't crazy about how they handled it, but whatever. I think Allison would've been happy to see her dad happy again after how he was after her mom died and then eventually her... instead of lonely and grieving his life away.
But no, Melissa and Argent gone.
But also Stydia... gone.
Scalia... gone.
And from what little I gathered Ethan and Jackson are... something. But Jackson is apparently comfortable just being gone and lying to him about why.
Speaking of being gone... onto my 4th complaint! ALL OF PETER HALE'S CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT WAS JUST GONE!!! Like they had me in his first scene with the blow torch, that was just regular old sassy Peter, but then he was just all Gung-ho for killing Allison and right back to his revenge filled ways. He was so protective and ready to finally be a dad for Malia at the end of the show, granted he still had a long way to go, but he was finally fighting with the pack and mending his relationship with Derek. When Scott is monologuing at the end of the final episode he says "Now we have allies who used to be enemies. We have protectors." And it cuts to a clip OF PETER FREAKING HALE!!!!! Like I wasn't expecting perfection, Peter was always a bit of a d*ck, but for all of his progress to just be gone was heartbreaking. Only redeeming part was the cigar and blowtorch bit because it had so much Doc Ock 2004 vibes.
And finally Derek... I just- I can't... I know it's cliche and cringey to say, but this movie is not canon for me. Because if it was, that means I would have to admit all the garbage I just watched was real. And I will not accept that. Most of all Derek's fate... Just no.
Anyway... I could continue, but I would be going on forever with complaints. The way I see it is, I still love the show and I will still watch it. This movie doesn't exist and the characters are all still out there together living their best lives as they should be.
The End.
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princeescaluswords · 2 years ago
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I suspect they like Stiles because he understands and appreciates Derek’s many good qualities, such as when he lied to Scott about his phone so the Argents would murder Derek for them / Why do you keep lying Escalus? Stiles explicitly told Scott "you probably lost it while you two were fighting". Either you are as dumb as Scott or you are purposely twisting canon to prop Scott up at Stiles and Derek's expense and to bash the neurodivergent hero you obsessively hate out of jealousy
I love it when you show your complete ignorance of the television show we are trying to discuss. As a source for those trying to follow along, I point out this script for Formality (1x11).
Now, in Act 2, Scott is tearing apart his room trying to find his phone. Stiles is watching him do so and they have this dialogue.
Scott: Not if Peter's going after Allison to find Derek! I can't protect her on my own. Which means we either find Derek first - just - just help me! Stiles: You know, you probably lost it when you two were fighting. You remember that, when he was trying to kill you, after you interrupted him trying to kill Jackson? Are you starting to see a pattern of violent behavior here?
Scott: He wasn't going to kill anyone. And I'm not letting him die. Stiles: Could you at least think about letting him die? For me? What?
That's the full dialogue. Stiles does indeed say what you quoted, but he also accompanies that with some very negative things to say about Derek. Bear that in mind, for what you failed to remember (or you didn't even try) is that this isn't the only time the topic of Scott's phone comes up. We move down to Act 6 of the same episode, with Peter confronting Stiles over Lydia's savaged body.
Peter: Tell me how to find Derek Hale. Stiles: I don't know that. How would I know that? Peter: Because you're the clever one, aren't you? And because deception has a particularly acrid scent, Stiles. Tell me the truth - Or I will rip her apart. Stiles: Look - Look, I don't know, okay? I sw - I swear to god, I have no idea. Peter: Tell me! Stiles: Okay, okay, okay, look, I - I think he knew - Peter: Knew what? Stiles: Derek, I think he - I think he knew he was gonna be caught. Peter: By the Argents? Stiles: Yeah. Peter: And? Stiles: When they were shot, he and Scott - I think he took Scott's phone. Peter: Why? Stiles: They all have GPS now. So if he still has it and if it's still on - you can find him.
So if you think that Stiles wasn't lying to Scott during Act 2, tell me when Stiles got new information during Acts 3, 4, or 5 that could have led Stiles to believe Derek stole Scott's phone. Tell me when Stiles had time during Acts 3, 4, or 5 -- the Winter Formal -- to figure out that Derek must have stolen Scott's phone or why he would even be thinking of what exactly happened to Scott's phone.
There isn't. I think it is very reasonable to say that Stiles suspects that Derek took Scott's phone in that first scene, but because he wanted Scott to be safe, he withheld that information, which is a lie of omission. He only admits his suspicion when Peter uses a threat to Lydia to force him to do so.
The anons twisted interpretations come from a premise with a fundamental flaw -- that the true conflict in Teen Wolf was between Scott and the Hales, with Stiles in the middle. But Stiles was never in the middle -- he was always on Scott's side.
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tintagel-or-cockleshells · 1 year ago
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Fic(tional) Stat(istic)s
@cha-melodius gave me a wonderful tag and I was actively surprised at the results, so here we go.
Rules: give us the links to your fic with the most hits, second most kudos, third most comments, fourth most bookmarks, fifth most words, and fic with the least words.
Most Hits: Just Like a Dealer, Teen Wolf
This fic shouldn't really be under my name as I didn't do the bulk of the writing. I was in a rehearsal in a very cold church with @clottedcreamfudge and it wasn't either of our parts so I think I wrote a short prompt for her and she wrote the rest? I get the kudos emails and comments still!
I gave tintagel the prompts "cards," "pillar" and "silk". She wrote the opening (which I've tweaked slightly for my own nefarious purposes) and then this happened. In which UST is resolved (and then some) and Scott is just disappointed that all of this happened in his kitchen.
Second Most Kudos: Alien Magic, Tamora Pierce
This is a crossover episode fic where I tried to squish the worlds of Emelan and Tortall together. I don't plan fics, I just write, which really pisses off Josefin and sometimes can cause issues as there has already been one 5-year gap between updates for this fic.
A dead metal human-bird hybrid washes up on the shores of Emelan. Niko identifies it as something from a far-off country, one with more experimental universities than Lightsbridge, and with another way of magic. And so the four go to Tortall. In Tortall itself, Stormwings are coming down with disease, with reduced flocks, actually asking for the Wildmage's help. Something has gone very, very wrong.
Third Most Comments: Ghosted, RWRB
When Henry leaves his flat that morning, he doesn't anticipate being followed through London by a guy who seems really insistent on speaking to him, never getting to eat his takeaway, and being sat on by an old man on the Tube. But sometimes, fate has other plans for you, and you can't fight fate. --- Or, the fic where people are ghosts until they're not, dead until proven otherwise, and we take bets on how thin the veil is between the living and the dead.
Fourth Most Bookmarks: Red, White and Royal Ballet, RWRB
Alex Claremont-Diaz isn't the 'bad boy of ballet'. He's just good at playing the tortured roles. But his latest role, where he's partnered with Beatrice Fox, is coming to an end, and they're announcing the new season's program soon. He might never be the romantic hero, but maybe it's time for a change. Completed.
Fifth Most Words: The Nights We Almost Met, TAH
You should all go listen to the Thrilling Adventure Hour, a loving pastiche of the radio dramas of old. I highly recommend Beyond Belief, the segment where wonderfully drunk and in love mediums Frank and Sadie Doyle (the inimitable Paul F Tompkins and Paget Brewster) investigate paranormal happenings
Frank Doyle and Sadie Parker have terrible timing. It started as a series of vignettes showing when the Doyles could have met, but ultimately missed each other by a hair. It ended differently.
Notes:
This is because I'm a sucker for those things where a couple ALMOST meet and you know they'd be PERFECT and then they don't meet, like, at all. See also: Love Soup. This fic will end when I stop coming up with ways for them not to meet, and they're basically magnetised towards one another so it won't take too long.
Least Words: Putting It Together, TAH
Frank Doyle is a rich, bored bachelor. Sadie Knickerhouse affects to be made in the same mould, but really she's after his art collection. For anyone who thought Art Imitates Life needed its own spinoff series.
I've been surprised by these! I write in small fandoms generally but I didn't expect the Teen Wolf one to be as high up as it was. Anyway, watch this space. Tagging @gloriousclio, @clottedcreamfudge, @stutteringpeach and whoever else would like a crack!
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tenpintsof-sundrop · 4 months ago
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@proudhufflepuff77 - in regards to what happened to Boyd, I was curious about it myself, so I just looked at the Teen Wolf wiki summary for this episode
This is what it says about his experience:
Boyd sits on the bedside. The radio turns itself on with a burst of static. The clock reads “12:46.” He quickly switches it off. In two seconds it switches back on with more static and a man’s voice asking questions of a child.
The man asks “You remember what time it was when you last saw her?” to which the child responds “I don’t know I can’t remember.” The man pushes on saying that “sometimes it helps to put yourself right back in the moment” he then says “Imagine you’re seeing Alicia skating on the ice rink, plenty of other people around and then what?”.
The boy is meek in his response “and then, then she was just gone.”
Boyd turns off the radio again but within a couple of seconds it’s back on. The boy voice on the radio, in a pleading tone, says “I told you, I was watching her. I didn’t want to skate anymore. I, I was tired and I swear I was watching her!” The man’s voice in a comforting tone continues “It’s alright, we’re just trying to piece together what happened.”
Boyd grabs the radio off the nightstand, pulling the cord out of the wall at the same time. As he stares at the now powerless radio, it suddenly lights up again and the voices continue with the boy asking “Is she dead?” and “Is it my fault?” and “Is she dead?” again.
It sounds like Boyd having a flashback to a police interview that happened after his sister went missing (likely abducted from the skating rink because it was a crowded public place). And that's likely why he saw a hallucination of her dead body buried in the ice machine - because the last place he ever saw her alive was at a skating rink. (And it's also wild to me that he got an after school job working at a skating rink ? Like dude. Is it because he thought his sister would be found there and he was spending all his time there waiting for her to come back?)
It seems like she was a missing persons case that was never actually deemed dead because they never found her body, which is so ironic because of the months that him and Erica were missing and assumed dead and he came back alive. But yeah, I'm sticking with my theory from before - he used the safe to crush himself because it represents the crushing weight of responsibility he felt for not protecting his sister and not watching over her, even though he wasn't technically responsible because he was just a child himself.
His story was so interesting and I wish we could have gotten to know more of it and had more concrete details
Okay I'm having another thought about Isaac (I am thinking about Isaac again, big fucking surprise)
I feel like it says a lot about Isaac that during Motel California when Stiles found him and used the flare to snap him out of the mental torture spell that the motel ghost and the Wolfsbane had put all of the wolves in, Isaac was the only one not actively trying to physically harm himself. Isaac was hiding under the bed.
(If you haven't seen the episode and/or don't watch the show, mentions of trauma, suicide and self harm below.)
Like - let's run it down.
Ethan was being tortured by visions of someone trapped inside of his body and he tried to use a circular saw to cut that someone out (trying to cut himself free). It likely represents the idea that he was coming to resent merging with Aiden in their Alpha state, hating not having his own individual identity, hating the fact that Aiden might make him hurt someone (against his will while they're merged) innocent like Danny in the name of Deucalion's cause.
Boyd was being reminded of a childhood trauma (and I am actually so pissed that the show didn't go into more detail about this story and if they weren't planning on revealing the full details - why didn't they just make his visions about Erica? because he's clearly tortured and fucked up about that) where it seems like he was responsible for a younger sibling in a public place and that sibling was then abducted or went missing (and maybe turned up dead later?) and he feels responsible for her disappearance and/or death.
So he takes the safe out of the office and places it on top of himself to weigh himself down while he drowns in the bathtub - one, because he knows that no one of humans who are conscious of the goings on can lift it off and free him, and two, likely to represent the crushing weight that he feels over the guilt of losing his sibling. The crushing 'responsibility' he felt (even though he was just a child and it wasn't his fault). And it probably comes back to Erica - how he felt responsible for taking care of her during the time they were captured, and he likely felt responsible for her death too.
And Scott - sees a vision of his mother kidnapped and murdered by Deucalion, and he is told that it's all his fault. And he tries to burn himself alive while questioning if there is a ghost trying to convince him to do it or if there's something truly wrong with him. (And not knowing that Derek is alive, he feels responsible for Derek's 'death' and the lives of everyone around him - so the message here is pretty clear.)
What happens to Isaac is what interests me the most. He remembers something that happened during his childhood, a distinct memory with his father - a seemingly random, average conversation where his father is trying to teach him about tools, and things escalate quickly. When Isaac makes a simple mistake, his father's anger booms out of control, and he tells Isaac that he is inherently flawed, and then - Isaac has a vision of himself being locked back in the freezer that his father used to punish him, which we later find out means that the ghost prompted him to crawl under the bed, a tight space that would normally send him spiralling into a panic attack. The ghost is using his claustrophobia to torture him (when Stiles finds him, he's sweaty and shaking and clearly very poor off), but he's the only one of the wolves not actively trying to kill himself.
What this says to me is that - Isaac has already lived through a fate worse than death. Worse than the kind of mystery that drives the average person to suicide. This says to me that a demon (or whatever lives in the motel) that thrives off people killing themselves, gets more pain and suffering to feed off of from Isaac having a claustrophobic panic attack and believing that he's back in his father's basement in the freezer than it would if he was actually miserable enough to want to kill himself.
Isaac already died while locked in that freezer many, many times.
Idk that's just what that moment in the show says to me.
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mystiquewanderlust · 2 years ago
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CHINESE DRAMAS MUST WATCH
[PART 8]
The Long Ballad🎭
GENRE: Wuxia, Adventure, Historical, Romance
RATING: 1000/10
WUXIA RATING: ⭐⭐⭐
No. Of Episodes: 49
Date Watched: March 2-6, 2023
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This drama is everything!! Never a dull momemt again and it's not that intense where I wanna take a break and switch to a comedy drama just to ease the tension I was feeling while watching an intense episode (based on actual experience). The casts and the production made this drama even more exciting to watch. Like the actors and the costumes and the setting.. it was the icing on top! I just love the three main casts (not to mention very popular and highly paid ones)--Dilraba, Lusi and Leo.. yeah we're on first name basis now haha. Have watched some of their dramas already that's why I was more enticed to watch this drama. Like just Dilraba already screams WATCH ME to me.. not to mention those other two, especially Leo who I just watched in Fight Break Spears.. I loved him there! Even though he appears like a teen there and just two years later this new drama with Dilraba shook my entire system. I mean he was so different from that drama, less manly.. if you know what I mean. But in this drama.. he is soooo handsome!!
Anyways, getting back to the drama.. the plot, wow.. I was blown! It was like another new dimension which reminded me of Legend of Fuyao where they traveled to the different kingdoms--Central Plains, Grasslands and Dessert.. with the divisions--Eagle, Bear and Wolf of the Ashle Tribe. Also love the wars and struggle for power which turned to 180 degree in the end.. aside from the deaths of the innocent people who contributed a lot in the growth of the main characters, the story was a beauty. I wasn't traumatized with the ending.. unlike some dramas (ehem, Scarlet Heart).. Can't wait to watch the other dramas of these three main casts ♡♡♡
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The Starry Love⭐
Genre: Xianxia, Romance, Adventure
Rating: 100/10
XIANXIA RATING: ⭐⭐⭐
No. of Episodes: 40
Date Watched: Feb 16-Mar 11, 2023 realtime
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This drama is cute! Yes, cute is the word. Haha! I was drawn by the plot the very first time I learned about this. I mean twins with different persona--one prim&proper (the role model) and one happy-go-lucky/crafty (the deliquent) as it was described. One who will bring luck and prosper and one who will bring bad luck and disaster. And guess what? They got swapped with their supposed to be groom--one from the Heavenly Realm and one from the Demon Realm. Exciting, right?! And yes, I wasn't mistaken after watching the drama--it was so fun! The searching for the male lead's three soul chards was really a fun and funny adventure. The plot, check! Costumes, check! Characters/Actors, check! All of the main actors for me is new aside from the male lead who I already encountered in Goodbye My Princess (which is soo not a drama worth recommending. why? #ScarletHeartOnceAgain) The ending tho was so cliffhanger! I know they will have a happy ending based from the last scene, but they didn't make it come true! To see is to believe and be relieved. Hays. Hoping for that Stinger tho. Will patiently wait for my happy happy ending! ♡
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Immortal Samsara💮
Genre: Xianxia, Romance, Adventure
Rate: 1000/10
XIANXIA RATING: ⭐⭐⭐
No. of Episodes: 59 + 2 stingers
Date Watched: Mar (last week) - Apr 5 2023
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First of all, I wasn't expecting anything from this drama at all. Why? Because first, I'm not fond of the female lead (watched her from Ashes of Love btw) and not familiar with the male lead (I'm kinda not feeling him from the photos/teasers?). Second, I don't know, maybe because I've watched xianxia dramas before and I pretty know what to expect--dieties, mortals, demons, trials, spells and all that. BUT I was stand corrected! THIS DRAMA IS EVERYTHING!! And I'm not exaggerating at all. Like wow, #newchineseactorcrushalert Cheng Yi is the new love of my life! He portrayed his role like so on-point, from the emotions the costumes, how he carry himself--he was a Supreme Lord indeed! (Shoutout to Dylan Wang who is also so good at portraying this role) The plot of this drama blown me away. It was really new and so exciting to watched. And the epic love story--the main couple sacrificing themselves for love--I know it is so overrated but I was totally hooked by their portrayals. This for me even beat the Ashes of Love (which she by the way was also the female lead lol)! Srsly! Still love the Eternal Love tho, they're head to head. But yeah, super satisfied with this 59-long episode drama. Imagine how long this drama is! But I was still bitin. OMG. And oh, the final ending was only made in two stingers so I'm so intrigued how the story really ended. They never explained how the two got revived from the dead because they died in Episode 59! Like what the heck?! But still, glad they made an effort to give the viewers some happy ending to hope for. #ScarletHeartNeverAgain Lol. Now I'm searching for Cheng Yi's drama and of course his new drama which is still a costume drama! Can't wait!!
And oh, this drama is so picturesque, I can't help but capture tons of photos of the leads :D
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thehollowprince · 3 years ago
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stiles/sterek fans will shit on scott and then turn around and give scott's entire personality to stiles. they "love" stiles for being sarcastic, aggressive, and pushy. but when writing/making headcanons suddenly he has scott's gentleness, understanding, and need to take care of people. but they "hate" scott for being a "shitty" person🙃 okay babes
Oh, you are preaching to the choir.
This is something a lot of us have brought up multiple times and yet it seems to fall on deaf ears by most of the fandom, mostly because they don't want to hear it.
There are fans that took literally everything from Scott and gave it to Stiles, from the smallest details to entire character traits. The only resemblance that the fandom versions of Scott and Stiles (or virtually any other character) have to their canon counterparts, and even that is an unusual occurrence. I mean, let's be honest, how many times have we read a fic where Stiles was described as "coltish" or "waifish" or something similar despite Dylan O'Brien being almost six feet tall with ridiculously broad shoulders and big hands?
Scott's compassion and determination to try and save everyone? That's Stiles now. His relationship with Derek? They took that and twisted it to make Sterek, even though Derek was always focused/fixated on Scott.
Don't believe me, watch their first scene together. [ X ]
Notice how Derek doesn't even glance at Stiles. His attention is solely focused on Scott, as it was for almost the entire season... and the next season, where he tried repeatedly to get Scott to join his pack. Not Stiles, Scott. But you go into the general Teen Wolf fandom and they'll tell you about this deep and immediate connection between Stiles and Derek.
I can count on one hand the number of scenes that Stiles and Derek shared where they weren't antagonizing or even outright hitting each other. And one of those is a dream sequence.
Meanwhile, Derek and Scott have had a consistent, developing relationship throughout the show.
Scott trying to find and rescue Derek. [ X ]
Derek saving Scott during the Rave. [ X ]
Derek saving Scott from Ennis. [ X ]
Derek telling the twins how to be in Scott's pack. [ X ]
Derek rushes to save Scott from Berserkers. [ X ]
Derek coming back to Beacon Hills... for Scott! [ X ]
I personally loved the fact that the BS line from the beginning "We're brothers now" became true in the end. That's an actual connection that was allowed to flourish and grow into character development.
There was this whole thing in the fandom about how Stiles cared so much about his father (to be fair, he did) that he brought him dinner at the Sheriff's Station and monitored his food. (I remember there being a big thing about curly fries vs salads.) That's something that never happened on the show, but meanwhile, Scott...
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They'll take anything from Scott to give to Stiles, even the small and seemingly inconsequential things.
Like, the red hoodie for example. I saw so many posts and fics and metas about Stiles, the boy in the red hoodie, and yet we have this
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This is from the first episode. Hell, this is from the first ten minutes of the first episode!
And then there's the damn baseball bat.
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That bat was something Scott and then his mother used. Stiles didn't pick up a baseball bat until halfway through season three [The Overlooked], and even then, it wasn't his bat, it was Melissa's.
Don't believe me?
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Fandom completely and entirely swapped Scott's and Stiles' personalities and then used what they did as an excuse to hate Scott and prop up Stiles. They did it so much and to such an extent, that I'm convinced they secretly hate Stiles, otherwise they wouldn't be trying so hard to make him like Scott.
Makes absolutely zero sense.
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mikhardwheat · 2 years ago
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I watched the show 7 times, but I see the point you're making. And I mentioned that I don't blame Scott, I blame bad writing that made his decisions questionable.
Theo didn't want to murder his pack. In fact, he resurrected them from the dead before they become his pack. Admittedly, because he knew they'd follow him - he just saved them, why wouldn't they? Later in the season Corey mentions that Theo isn't bad and we don't ever see him doing anything against other chimeras. He's having fun with Josh, he hangs out with Hayden, they seem to be on the safe ground with Tracy. He doesn't want to murder them.
Then there's Deucalion part, which we learn to be a negotiated plan. Now, you can say (and you did) that there wasn't anything about "manipulating Theo", not even a hint, but...
Below will be a short part I got from here:
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One might argue that Deucalion just shared his knowledge, however, his past tells us otherwise. Did he change? Maybe. Does it erase the fact that he was the reason an Alpha pack came into existence? Nope. (Each member of the Alpha pack killed their previous close-than-family packs just so they can get power and be accepted under Deucalion's wing. Story sounds familiar, doesn't it? Power-seeking people, who are easy to manipulate? Are being manipulated by Deucalion to become the murderers even if they're attached to their loved ones; in Theo's case there was barely an attachment, but that's a bed story for another time.)
Now, there's thing that'll take slightly longer to read into, but oh well (Tumblr doesn't let me to upload videos, so we're taking the next best thing):
Season 5, episode 19:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYjoYrLe/
Look me in the eyes and tell me he wasn't manipulating him nor was he hinting at killing. I'll pay for our dinner just so you can do that.
Later, in s5 ep20 we learn that Deucalion and Scott worked together. He doesn't interrupt as Deucalion reveals their alliance and admits that they were lying to Theo this whole time. (Time-code is 26:40, I'm not linking another video).
Once again, I don't blame Scott for Theo's mistakes, I blame him for being inconsistent with his own ideology (which happens not once, but quite a handful of times and you don't even have to dig: Mr. Second Chance gave it to Jackson after he threatened him, Allison after she tried to kill Derek's pack, Peter after he did... everything he did, Deucalion with his messed up views, etc. But he decided to send a brainwashed 19yo to hell? And has never forgiven his father? The last one is understandable, but doesn't correlate with overall picture).
Scott is trustful and extremely easy to betray, but in season 5 he suddenly doesn't believe his best friend and takes a stranger's words over his? This was so out of character, it's laughable.
And, just to be clear: I never stated that he was responsible for Theo being braindead for the entirety of season 5. I do, however, keep him accountable for the whole "hell" situation and partly for elimination of Chimera pack. Why? He's the Alpha, as simple as that.
I respect him as an empathetic leader and, I assure you, I know for sure that hell wasn't his idea nor the killing. First part was planned by the whole pack and for the last one he probably just believed in Deucalion's judgement (sadly enough).
He let those things happen, he knew the risks and still let them happen. Personally, I consider it a writer's fault, because the image we should've get differs drastically from what we got.
I hope I made my point clear and there are no unfortunate misunderstanding left. Feel free to tell me what else I didn't understand or what I can do to be better.
Dread Doctors and Parenting: Opinions. Theo Reaken Character Analysis and (trigger warning) Scott Slander.
Dread Doctors ruined Theo's life, because he was easy to manipulate and was tend to be violent, making him value his self-worth based on their approval, screwing his brain over with untreatable damage, just to throw him out as soon as he got useless.
They haven't teached him basic human skills and raised a murderer, thinking it'll be easier for evil to grow inside of him instead of it taking over at once over a kind soul, which is messed up by itself, but…
Theo really believed that being evil was the one single thing he was capable of. He believed he was destined to gather an impossible power and then Doctors said it wasn't even an option? He couldn't do the only thing he was supposed to? Jeez, his head was a fucking mess.
And then the pack sends him to hell? To relive his biggest nightmare over and over? To the point where he thinks everything what's happening is purely his fault and he lets Tara tear him apart, because "you don't have to stop"?? Because now he's not only blaming himself for her death, he thinks he deserves the suffering and that's a price he's willing to pay???
Scott McCall is getting the dirtiest side-eye from me right now.
He convinced Deucalion to manipulate Theo into killing his own pack. The kid was mentally unstable and haven't got any real friends since he was 9, 10 years of brainwashing made him foget how valuable life actually was and he was going against the Doctors' orders for the first time in who-knows-how-long-its-been-since-his-last-rebelion. It was also around the time Doctors decided to ignore him completely? Let him do his little dumb thing, knowing it won't work out as he wants it to? Neglected child getting neglected even more and feeling emotionally vulnerable?
And Scott thought making him kill his first attempt at friendship was a good plan? This mf has a "no killing rule", but he allows others to do the dirty job and then it's fine. If they killed before, then there's nothing wrong with them killing again, especially if it benefits him, am I right?
To be fair, it's not completely Scott's fault, just poor writing doing him wrong for the umpteenth time. Both deserved better, both deserved to get back the friendship they once had.
Just a friendly reminder that TW's canon sucks.
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asterekmess · 3 years ago
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So I've never seen teen wolf, wasn't even aware of it, when I was younger. Now I'm in my mid twenties with a degree in psychology and I stumbled across Tyler Hoechlin, so a friend suggested we watch teen wolf.
I seriously had to stop halfway through season one because of Scott. I skimmed through some episodes, read some stuff, and just.... I don't need my psychology degree to see, in red neon letters, that he is an abusive, narcissistic man child (clinically diagnosed).
I honestly can't understand how he is such a well established main character?
So, I just wanted to reach out and say thank you!
(I absolutely love Derek though, psychologically a very compelling, albeit tragic character who I had hoped would have a happy ending at some point!)
I....Have no idea why you're thanking me. XD But you're welcome! I think!
Congrats on finding our lovely Derek Hale. He's absolutely got a happy ending, if you read any of my fics. ;)
I tend not to think about Scott all that often anymore, if I'm real. XD I don't even think he's a character in the majority of my wips, and they're much better off for it.
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stilinskiderek · 2 years ago
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just gonna jump the gun on the ask game - 01 for our favorite teen wolfs
OH LETS GOOOOO this took me a while to answer because i have been formulating . i've been ideating. none of this will be a shock . but i have so much to say.
001 | Send me a fandom and I will tell you my:
Favorite character: DEREK HALE completely unsurprisingly. Literally from season 1 episode 1. I love him so much.
Least Favorite character: THEO RAEKEN Even in my rewatch I didn't like him, which makes him okay as a villain but I don't even really like him as a villain. also started my teen wolf rewatch when i was rewatching pll and kept calling him mike.
5 Favorite ships (canon or non-canon): STEREK literally from day 1 also. The only fic i read for teen wolf is sterek. SCISAAC also from the first time i watched the show. there's something so special to me about scott and isaac together i love them so much STALIA i didn't actually like them together when i first watched the show but rewatching it??? holy shit. they were so so so so good for each other and it broke my heart when they broke up. one of the scenes in s5 where malia says she knows stiles had to kill one of the chimeras but 'it didn't matter' /didn't affect how much she cared about him so she didn't bring it up??? holy shit. that paired with 'i would never leave without you' GOD I LOVE MALIA TATE STYDIA spoilers for a show that ended in 2017 but i did in fact cry when they ended up together. dont forget i love you?? bitch im going to scream ALLYDIA i got one of my friends to start teen wolf and they sent me a message like midway through season 1 and said 'do people ship allison and lydia?" and the answer is yes. me. i'm people.
Character I find most attractive: DEREK HALE also 'character most frequently covered in blood' and 'character most likely to be in distress'
Character I would marry: DEREK HALE i mean. come on.
Character I would be best friends with: ISAAC LAHEY he is SO important to me and i loved him even more with rewatching the show. someone please be nice to him.
a random thought:
An unpopular opinion: I FUCKING LOVE SCOTT MCCALL . i know a lot of people dont! i understand! but i love him so much. scott is probably my second favorite character in the show. he is . chefs kiss. a lot of that also comes from loving tyler posey. + i am GENUINELY excited for the movie. I know most people are not! i am. if you ask yourself 'who asked for this movie?' the answer is tumblr user stilinskiderek. i asked.
My Canon OTP: STALIA not a ship that lasted but my favorite canon ship ever. i loved them together so so much and i missed their dynamic in season 6
My Non-canon OTP: SCISAAC HEAR ME OUT i know i have a sterek url i also love sterek BUT i think Scisaac could've been made canon so easily whereas sterek couldn't have. I GENUINELY think if Isaac was a female character he would've ended up with Scott. Their personalities worked so so well together and I really think they could've been canon!!!
Most Badass Character: DEREK HALE like for the sheer number of times this man has brushed death and survived. jesus CHRIST.
Most Epic Villain: VOID!STILES the other characters having to fight with a person they were FRIENDS WITH?? stiles is scott's BROTHER like holy SHIT. god. the emotional turmoil. dylan obrien killed it. the divine move is one of my favorite episodes of the entire show.
Pairing I am not a fan of: DRAEDEN it just felt...out of nowhere? and kind of weird? i think because season 4 was when hoechlin wasn't a series regular anymore so derek wasn't a key character in every episode it felt like their relationshp was super rushed and just. didn't fit either one of their characterizations.
Character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another): DEREK HALE i could talk about this until the cows come home. i think that derek was not treated with any sort of importance despite being a main character, and i don't think the literal trauma and abuse he suffered at the hands of kate argent was ever properly addressed. a lot of his actions and the way he treats people are obviously based in that experience but there was absolutely NO attempt at resolving it or even really acknowledging it. It should've been something, especially in season 4 with kate coming back, but it wasn't. i'm never going to not be mad about it. in that same vein, i think derek and isaac's relationship could've been way more impactful if the writers gave a fuck about derek. with the other hale betas in s2, jackson, erica, and boyd all have 'real'/biological families they can go home to. jackson's might not be great but he still has somewhere else to go. the only person isaac had was derek, which puts derek begrudgingly into this older brother/dad role for isaac that could've been incredible HAD THE WRITERS DONE ANYTHING WITH IT!! clearly isaac is living in the loft with derek but ?? that's all we ever get. what could've been a really great found family moment was absolutely nothing, and watching the scene in s3 where derek is terrified of the alpha pack coming for him TO THE POINT WHERE HE SENDS ISAAC AWAY TO KEEP ISAAC SAFE makes me so mad because if that relationship had been developed that scene would've been even MORE heartbreaking. isaac is being sent away by the only person he has in the world and that hurts but derek should've also been hurting because he's trying to protect this kid he took in but he can't explain it to him and i just. it could've been the bella/charlie scene in twilight but it wasn't!!!
Favourite Friendship: SCOTT/STILES stiles has scott's back through literally everything and god the scene in motel california with the flare breaks me every single time.
Character I most identify with: LYDIA okay this was hard for me to answer because i identify with a lot of them but in different ways?? then i remembered one time my friend sophie asked me to pick a teen wolf sun/moon/rising sign which i think fits this question. my rising sign is Scott, my moon sign is Lydia, and my rising sign is Malia. I think out of all of them I identify the most with Lydia!! i love her.
Character I wish I could be: DANNY I just want to be adjacent to all of the chaos and observe from afar. the way he knew about the werewolves because nobody can whisper in beacon hills is so special to me. i also love that he's the singular side character who was not made supernatural and did not die, just vibed the entire time.
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