#bc he NEEDS her to be cersei so HE can be jamie
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can you imagine where after the third asoiaf book instead of following up with What Happens Next, grrm just writes a novella called a Feast of Frostlight where the lannisters have a winter solstice party and have to give each other gifts. as much as i play in sjmās face i think that would have fucking ruled actually.
#its fun reading books#feyre thinks shes jamie#rhys also thinks hes jamie but thinks everyone thinks hes cersei#so hes like hovering over feyres shoulder as she takes the which asoiaf char are you quiz#and everytime feyre picks an answer trying to get danerys he interjects#āno danerys would choose thisā and its an answer to get cersei#bc he NEEDS her to be cersei so HE can be jamie#everyone in the night court is taking that quiz trying to get danerys#spoiler alert. they all get jamie#and if YOUR jamie and IM jamie WHOSE cersei?? they worry secretly#except nesta#she gets tyrion#wow nesta and tyrion would be iconic. both have been CANCELLED by their court and side with the harbringer of the end times
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Probably biggest misconception is how catelyn is flawed as mother. I dont understand how obviously you can have 5 children to be accurate who are all further apart from you, and some are unsafe and as hostages in KL, other is fighting war and remaining are in home, the home was taken from them which is winterfell after war of 5 kings erupted. Logically talking, takes days and months to reach one place in westeros that by time she would have reached winterfell to be with bran and rickon maybe that time would have been taken by ironborn to reach winterfell when they sacked it. You cannot just say she should be with all her children and starklings and also hope robb wins, and she gets her daughters back and all is well?? Obv so many things and her mistakes which makes her a flawed character happens as result of wrong judgements and then it was impossibility to go back or leave robb. Catelyn assisted robb too a lot in war. Her eldest son did need her as someone near to her because she was TULLY! she and her son needed their support and that of riverrun. She even knew The Freys and made pact with them not mentioning how pact turned out all wrong not bcs of their mistakes only but also freys and boltons betraying and killing them in cold blood which was very unlikely. She is even sent by Robb to deal with Renly and Stannis, hoping she makes them take their crown off and fight to similar cause, then she brings brienne on the way too, and later learns of what happened in winterfell. How does that make her terrible conflicted mother, im sorry? She was doing whatever she could to help her son win war because winning that was their only chance and losing it was their permanent demise. Also she left winterfell and bran alone as people say?? Well why? Because i wonder bran was crippled and was on bed when an assasin was sent to kill him in front of her and that to in their own home, own room. Had it not been for brans wolf they both would have died yet she so bravely wrestled with the assassin as lady. As normal lady with no tactful skills or strength. of course we know later who sent it to kill bran, but her biggest last straw to leave winterfell and go to Ned ( wondering ned is also responsible for more things as in not being coming back home when given the chance 500 times to, to escape Kl, or even ask for forgive of cersei or flee with renly....but he didn't well and left them alone too knowing robb was only elder stark there and...benjen was gone) and she even comes again, back to her home when she sees tyrion, and vows to capture her because again,,,
1) She thought dagger was his we all know littlefinger told her.
2) Now her trusting LF is dumb but why? grrm made him smart and not entirely evil for purpose of telling us too how so many ppl including tyrion and cersei are fooled by him for so many times so how was cat and she knew him btw, was supposed to mistrust him, lets say even if she is somewhat naive and made mistake in this matter? Ned even trusted him. And so many. It was definitely not mistake as people push on the fact that trusting her fathers former ward who also loved her, in foreign land was dubious
3) And she still gave tyrion a trial. this makes jamie also very grey for killing ned's men, a stark, and HAND OF the king at that time openly in place, Also tyrion was suspected again which is told since dagger could have been his was made up lie by LF. infact most od jon arryns story was all a lie by LF,,, but we did not know that neither did she
And setting tyrion free, brought her back to her son's war and ned getting beheaded although i do not remember all timelines but before robb is announcement as king in the north, she even urges them all to vow and make peace and get her DAUGHTERS back. So ppl who think she was more of mother to sansa and not arya is another misconception. This is mostly used by extreme antis and others to turn them against one another when half of the diff bw them arya and sansa are result of mistake and negligence by both ned and cat and even septa mordane! Yet it is all a child's matter....arya and sansa learn a lot through their journeys about importance esp arya, of importance of having a wolf pack and not just lone wolf. Catelyn herself confessed how arya was so difficult and different not in negative way!! but to define her traits that she was always playing, in a mess "half a wolf pup, half a girl" is clearly not said as a terrible statement towards a daughter. She thinks sansa on the other hand is very sensitive and sentimental which she was, and there is nothing wrong with her being a conventional lady however she no longer believes in so many fairytales even, and arya defying the norm of being feminine lady for which you almost must be dressed as lady. Catelyns worries for her daughters and them being so apart was literally a mothers worry backed by toxic mindset and patriarchal values. Yet even then she like most mothers, never thought of only marriage and children as fate of her daughters which for e.g tywin treating cersei; only as beautiful gem of daughter to get excessive betrothals and better claim of lands and titles via her daughter only.
Ned and Cat didnt even had their daughters betrothed which was disadvantage in far sight but also kind of how their approach on their children were. Rickon was too small and definitely last of her children. Bran was precious to her not because he was bran....but because he did lose his legs and was about to get killed which made him wonder what bran did or knows which led to such vivacious attack. How is that being unequal to your children. Similarly her thoughts on arya and sansa are both realistically embodying the nature of two very different sisters. She LED JAMIE FREE to trade her daughters. SHE KNEW most likely arya was dead yet she still did it definitely not to get sansa only back but as diminishing hope for exchange of both her daughters. Long before she got to know arya might have been dead , just like bran and rickon, THEN obv her worries shifted from one child to the only alive kids she had: Robb and Sansa. Sansa was betrothed to Tyrion. And Robb was leading a war. Yet she still impulsively and as they said " a plight of mother" released jamie. Surely does make her a conflicted worrisome and passionate mother - not just to her some few children only.
Throughout acok and asos, there isn't single thing that means to describe her resentment and unequal treatment of children. Catelyn's upbringing had an effect too. Her mother died too young, she was left as woman on mercy of a terrible father in my opinion and an uncle who did love her and comforted her! She was even married to someone she didn't see. She is or did have conventional mindset about marriage and children. Her entire thing to ned and her children were embodiment of Family, duty, honour. A lot of other ppl in asoiaf aren't really always tied intrinsically and loyally to families esp ones whose families have been terrible to them. Duty is another important thing. She never even asked Ned for Jons mother purely as duty yet her outburst on young child is definitely worthy of criticism. She and Cersei in a way had both same kinds of husbands in different ways, and yet both used diff ways to climb a male dominated society - and both have different way of loving children even and a different demise (so far as we know cersei is still alive)
#asoiaf meta#catelyn stark#catelyn tully#sansa stark#arya stark#ned stark#robb stark#bran stark#cersei lannister#house stark#please if u dont agree you dont have to quote#or reblog#just my thoughts#asoiaf/got#asoiaf#valyrianscrolls#a song of ice and fire#grrm#reblogging my stupid unedited meta but i do find catelyn a good mother#and this has so many mistakes i know omg EMBARASSING SORRY#mama cat šš
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1 Thanks F, your page is a safe heaven for Jamie's adherents! Imo J. is right now reevaluating everything he thought he knew, which is what makes him so interesting to me. His arc is so closely connected to Jon and Bran, perhaps his redemption will begin when he sees them again. His life is characterized by his unwillingness to serve, and this must change for him to go forward. This is why I believe Tyrion's ending was in reality Js, he'll be Jon's or Bran's hand. With Bran there's another
2 aspect: he laments in his chapters that Cersei hadn't allowed that he become true father figure for his kids, especially Tommen. If Bran becomes king in the south, and J is alive, he can be that father to him that he couldn't be for his own son. Bran will need some sort of regency bc of his minority. There's some moving poetic justice there, the hand that committed the crime against Bran having been severed, but serving for protecting the victim, an innocent boy. No, imo Jamie will live.
Hi there!
Before season 8 aired I was quite sure that Jaime would be the Lannister to survive, and I'm still not quite convinced that I was wrong. lol
I do think it depends on if GRRM wants to give Jaime a real redemption and not just some second thoughts about the decisions he made in his life. For Jaime to survive he needs to feel remorse and he needs to make amends. And still redemption does not necessary mean survival. Some sins are too great.
But who of the Lannister children has committed the worst crimes? I think that the show ending is not entirely impossible. It could be that Jaime's second thoughts never become more than that, that he regresses and returns to Cersei, to end it all by dying at her side (as I said before, I doubt that he'll kill her).
I think that Tybald Lannister the Hand to Aegon III, a very capable Hand, but crippled, unloved, doing his duty despite the hatred he experiences every day might be the foil to the Hand we see at the end at Bran's side. If Jaime fights against the Others as his dream with Brienne seems to hint at, then I think it is possible that hell get even more injuries. The dream also hints at him being alone in the end - which could mean that he is the one who remains.
And there is the fact that Jaime serving Bran until the end of his life would a very poetic way to make amends.
I think, it could work depending on how Jaime's arc continues. But then there is GRRM and his enigmatic wording that we know "an end, but not the end" - whatever that means.
Anyway, I am very reluctant to let go of my headcanon that Jaime survives and will be the last Lannister, alone just like he dreamed. Jaime himself sees his dream as a death omen and that alone probably should make us suspicious about what it really means.
Thanks for the ask!
#anon ask#Jaime Lannister#Jaime as Hand?#will Jaime survive#I thought so#Still not convinced he'll die#He won't kill Cersei though#No chance of that
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i saw someone ask the question āif you had to choose who would die in The Long Night who would you pickā and thatās such a strange but also fun question i want to answer it. so my picks would be:
the deaths iād keep:
melisandre, theon, and jorah dying is already fine. the first twoās deaths were satisfying and fit their characters perfectly (melisandre finally found her purpose and theon finally found his way home). jorah also just needed to damn die ahdjchs. i canāt imagine his character being of any use in the episodes after tbh. tyrion was danyās hand now, grey worm commanded the unsullied/her fighting forces. jorah served his purpose episodes ago so him dying here, and especially dying to protect dany is fine and fits well.
bericās death being in TLN is fine, but iād just change how he died. iād rather he have played a role in defeating the night king rather than simply saving arya. i know sheās the one that killed the NK, so technically he did, but still. iād rather him have played a more important role in directly dealing with the NK rather than dying alone and left behind in a hallway.
ed like jorah served his purpose. in 8.02 we got that really sentimental shot of the last three nights watchmen standing atop a wall (of winterfell) so them reuniting right before the end was beautiful. ed dying was fine. just hate that he died saving sam like wow talk about the survivorās guilt.
visieron dying was fine.
the deaths iād remove:
lyanna mormont. i know she was a kid so she stood the least chance of survival, but itās fantasy and tbh the child lord surviving after taking down a giant and living to old age and being seen as a legend wouldāve been really cool. āthe youngest lord to kill a giant and survive the long nightā wouldāve been a nice tale to have to her.
the unsullied/dothraki. now since these are a people, ofc some of them had to die. iām not saying save all of them. but the instant extinction of the dothraki is terrible and the majority of unsullied dying is also tasteless for the simple fact that these are the two groups in winterfell that consist of mostly poc and most/all of them fucking die. itās bad. especially bc??? this isnāt even their home????? the Whitenessā¢ļø to write these two groups of color dying for white people they not only donāt know but who also openly look at them with disdain. what the fuck.
the deaths iād add:
(hereās the kicker lol)
brienne. sheās served her purpose! she finally got the stark sisters to safety back in their home and kept her promise to catelyn. and then not only that, she finally became a true and official knight in 8.02, her lifelong dream. her dying in TLN wouldāve been fine bc sheās finally accomplished all sheās wanted and i think wouldāve died at peace. it also wouldāve been sad bc shes such a great honorable character.
grey worm. him and missandei giving their āwhat will we do afterwards :)ā hopeful speeches, finally being officially and comfortably together, is what wouldve made his death, while expected, still hit emotionally regardless.
gilly in the crypts. not little sam, just gilly. it wouldāve been heart wrenching seeing her die, and i donāt think sam shouldāve found out until the morning after/after the fight. this leaves sam to raise little sam as a single parent, kinda contrasting his awful late father. sam doesnāt have much while his father had everything. sam would be the dad to little sam that he wished he had.
the hound. specifically defending arya. beric wouldnāt have been with them and wouldāve been off doing smthg involving the night king, while the hound is the one that sacrifices himself to save arya.
tormund. listen i love tormund so much but him dying in TLN wouldve been good. the army of the dead was his fight, not the fight for the iron throne, so his end being here wouldāve fit. but there is the issue of them making him the one and only face of the free folk we know now tho. in the earlier seasons we had mance, ygritte, karsi, etc. so one of them dying was fine bc we still had other characters representing the free folk. the fact we only have tormund now, while emphasizes how many of them has died, from a writing standpoint is more of a hinderance than anything else bc now he basically has plot invincibility. iād have probably had karsi survive hardhome somehow so that least if tormund died, weād know who the next leader of the free folk could be.
ser davos by defending a little girl. specifically that little girl we meet earlier with the scar on her face. it would be his way of being there for another little girl even tho he couldnāt be there for shireen. i think mr āi donāt fightā dying by protecting an innocent child would bring him peace and would be satisfying (while also emotional).
a stark ffs!!!!!! idk which one, but one of them shouldāve died. it wouldāve sucked major ass and probably wouldāve been tear jerking, but i still think it shouldāve happened. preferably at the very end of the episode as the final character death. in my head, the perfect candidate would probably be jon. in my perfect world, the storyline of him being a targaryen wouldnāt exist, so heād still be nedās son. as a nights watchmen, him and the white walkers have always been connected while him and the iron throne have not. him dying here, most likely giving his life to ensure the white walkers are finally and truthfully gone forever, wouldāve been a good end.
BONUS: deaths that, if were to happen, would have to happen during the fight for the iron throne
(now in my perfect universe, the FFTIT wouldāve come before TLN. regardless tho, some characters were more connected to either storyline so their deaths/final endings should reflect as such in whatever order the storylines happen)
jamie. heās survived a lot of stuff, so if his death were to occur at any point, it should be during this. it would also be a nice full circle since he began this journey killing the mad king so him ending the journey to ensure cersei, the mad queen, is off the throne wouldve be pleasing.
gendry. i like him and itād be sad to see him go, but him dying for the iron throne, the throne his father essentially died because of, would be interesting
arya. after doing smthg that would directly involve cerseiās death. cerseiās the only one left on her list (well besides the hound but tomato tomatoe) so arya dying to finally finish avenging her family wouldāve been interesting. sheās basically turned herself into a weapon at this point so her death being her hitting the final target would fit.
(in my version, this would also leave bran and sansa as the last remaining starks. and since bran is Smthg Else Now, essentially just sansa. a parallel to how ned was the last of his siblings.)
i think cersei is an obvious one.
the mountain. specifically at the hands of the hound (bc ya know in my version the FFTIT takes place before TLN).
those are the ones i can think of off the top of my head. but yeah! if i had to pick and choose who died during TLN (and who didnāt), then these would be my picks :]
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Crossover idea MCU/GoT
I was watching a Game of Thrones edit and this idea came in my mind.Ā
2012, when Loki attacked New York, he had Clint Barton (Hawkeye) under control. But not only that. Clint had a strong mind, so Loki took all his memories of his personal life, only leaving the ones full with violence and darkness. He doesnāt remember his family, his loyality to S.H.I.E.L.D., his friendship with Natasha. He thinks, that heās a mercenary and just working for this Loki guy. And when his job is finished, his handler sends him away, through a portal.Ā
Now, Loki made some mistakes, especially with this archer. He talked to much about his plans, he canāt risk his victory and reign over earth. So, he stole many memories, happy memories of this mortal and send him to another world, another dimension. But he isnāt too cruel, he enchants the quiver, so the mortal has anĀ infinite amout of arrows. He makes him faster and stronger than any human, like a super soldier and sends him away to a world full of knights, kings and other dumb mortals. His mortal will be the best of all.Ā
Clinton lands in the middle of snow and trees. He just sighes and makes his way through the forest, until he comes to a town. There he sees, that his clothes are not really usuall and he steals a cloak. Since heās trained as a spy, a mercenary, he does his āmagicā and makes some money. He now knows, heās in Westeros, in the North and wants to go to Dorne. He buys a horse and makes his way. Some years pass and he makes himself a name. The common folk calls him the Hawk, since he never misses and also has a tamed hawk as a pet. He even goes to the King, who is the biggest joke he ever saw, and asked for a house. House Barton, we never miss. Naturally a hawk and an arrow are his house sign. He goes to his castle, the Nest, which is in the north. That makes the Starks hisĀ ābossesā. Not that he really cares, they are honorable and good fighters. Soon Barton men are known to be the best archers in the whole world, but also woman becomeĀ āHawksā, as everybody calls them. Clinton takes his job as lord seriously, he is loved by his common folk and feared by many lords. Heās ruthless, but kind to innocents. Heās a hunter and always finds his prey. He makes money with training hawks, eagles and other birds, but also his bows and arrows. His weapons are the best in whole Westeros, even Essos. They are made with metal and cost a fortune for anyone who is not a part of the Barton household. He personally trains his archers, in many ways. Since heās known to be a good, fair but also strict lord, many come to pledge loyality to him. Bc of this, his army grows, hisĀ āHawksā become more. He lives is peace, trains a elite group to be like him (mercenarys (only loyal to him)). Then he hears, that Lord Stark goes to Kingslanding and offers a place over night for the King and the Lords, to stop, before they leave the north. Naturally, they accept, since Ned wants to talk with him and Robert enjoyed his presence. The Kingās and Lord Starks households are in awe with the nest, the caste, which grew in the past years. There are hawks, eagles and other birds of prey. Lord Clinton Barton welcomes them, as well some of his best fighters. Since he knows, that Robert is the biggest whore alive, he sent most of the woman away. While his guests eat, he observes them and finds out, that Lord Stark is worried. Before they march to Kingsman, he asks, if he could make Arya as his ward, since he sees great talent in her. Ned hestiates, but Robert just laughes and says he approves. So, Clinton takes Arya under his wing, teaches her everything he knows. She becomes his shadow, which many find amusing, they can see the stars in the girls eyes, whenever Clinton talks with her.Ā
Then the whole shit in Kingslanding happens, well, almost. Clinton has his birds (of prey (he definitly doesnāt call them his little birds, like Varys)). They save Ned Starks life, but there is war. Ned recovers in the Nest, while Clinton makes preparations to go to Winterfell. He sends many forces away, telling them, they need to hide in the common folk. He takes 1ā²000 archers with him, and leaves the elite group in charge of the nest.Ā
Ned Stark remains in Winterfell, while his son goes at war to rescue his sister. Clinton becomes one of his best advisors, many Lords donāt know him personally but are impressed. He keeps his eyes close to Roose Bolton and when heās sure, that this man will betray the Starks, he kills him. Well, his eagle kills him, and blames Roose for this. His animals are loyal and would never hurt a friend, they remain peaceful, as long they are not bothered. And instead that Roose asks for help, he tried to hurt/hit/kill the animal. When Clinton is sure, that they donāt have spies anymore, he calls every archer, he sent away from the nest. Robb is baffled, when he suddenly has 5ā²000 soldiers more. They are all great swordfighters, but even better archers. With new strenght, they walz the Lannisters to the ground and defeat Tywin. Well, Clinton defeats him (his army) and takes him as hostage.Ā
Robb almost dies, but Clinton could save his life. He sents the young Lord home and leads the big army himself. At first, the lords start to protest, but then Robb himself says, that this is the best idea. Clinton is now always seen at the front, with his two eagle (Artemis and Apollo) and his three hawks (Ares, Mars and Tyr) He marches in only three months to Kingslanding, defeating every army and winning every battle. When heās finally at the capital, he kills Joffrey, says that Tommen would be the better king than his mad brother and safes Sansa. He keeps some of his Hawks in Kingslanding, so he still has informations. Heās grinning the whole day (many are terrified, when they see his grin), when one of his Hawks told him, that sheās now the secret lover of Tommen Baratheon.Ā
He goes back to the north and starts his normal life again, bc of his glorious victory in the war, more people come and want to be trained by him. Slowly, his army becomes bigger than anyoneās, but he hides the number before everyone. His official number now is 10ā²000, but he has around 15ā²000. Since he saved a Starkās life, twice, heās now a true friend to the house. Everything is good, until he hears of Daenerys Targaryen, who is now the queen of Mereen. He takes some of his men/women (something like 100?) and makes his way to Essos. He sends some spies, gathers informations and isĀ intrigued by this young woman. Clinton offers his alliance, at first Daenerys is very skeptical, but then she hears what people say about him. Clinton remains some weeks at Essos, starts to teach the young Queen and promises her, that he will fight for her. He isnāt a big fan of Baratheons and Lannisters, there is a reason why Targaryens are Kings and Queens. He leaves 10 Hawks with her, to protect but also train her.Ā
Then fast forward, Cersei kills Tommen, becomes Queen, bla bla. The Starks donāt care about the shit in Kingslanding. Ned makes Robb the Lord of Winterfell, since he fears his health. (someone tried to poison him (totally the Lannisters)) Then all the shit in the series happens, until Daenerys finally comes to Westeros. She immediatly has the support of the Starks, since Clinton spoke with them. (more manipulated, but eh- does he care? Daenerys is the best choice for the Iron Throne) Bc of this, the whole North follows now Daenerys. Clinton leaves Nest and goes to Dragonstone, with some hunderts archers. The two spend some time together, become rather close, until they are lovers. They donāt let anybody know for a long time. When the time came, and Daenerys wants to attack Cersei, Jon Snow visits with Robb Stark. They talk about the Army of Death and Clinton wants to bang his head against a wall. Of course something bad needed to happen.Ā
The whole fight with the Night King hapoens, Clinton is a proud dadā¢, when Arya kills him. Then they go at war with Cersei, totally win, bc one of Clinton birds who kills Cersei, while she fucks Jamie. Naturally everybody knows and is disgusted as fuck. Daenerys becomes the Queen, Clinton her Queenās Consort.Ā
Happy ending? You wish. After 20 years he came to Westeros, he slowly starts to remember. Heās torn, he has a family on earth, but here too, he loves Laura and Daenerys, heās an agent but also a Lord. How should he even go back? Well, either, he slowly becomes depressed, but hides it or the Avengers come to his rescue. I donāt know and Iām really torn, since Clinton loves Daenerys dearly as well his children in this world, but still Laura and his other family.
So, if anyone wants to write a story or a HC, please tag me, so I can read and reblog it :)
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I have to tell you something but PLEASE, please, don't be mad. I love Brienne, and I loved her with Jamie, and I'm mad and sad that they didn't get to have their happy ending...but I don't think his ending was shit. Or OOC. First at all, book!Jamie is not TV!Jamie: his relationship with Cersei is different, not as sick or manipulative. He loves his siter and is loved by her in a more "helthier" way: in the show she told Tywing the truth about them, and it's huge considering the love for power1/?
He watched her lose their 3 children, he learned about her walk of shame to get back to Tommen, he witnessed Robertās humiliations. I think he would have stayed with Brienne if she knew his sister was safe, but he couldnāt be happy if his siter died and he did nothing to save her. He needed to be that person, otherwise all his growth would be lost, and he would have dragged Brienne in his spiral, and he didnāt want to make her miserable.Ā To me he is still an honorable man, bc when there was a chance to do something, he did it: he killed the king to save KL, he fought the dead army, but over and over he said that the Lannister army didnāt stand a chance against the dragons or the Dathraki, he was not a fool. His speech was not about NOT CARING, it was about knowing there was nothing he could have done. He did good, he was good, and till his last moment he tried to be honorable, he tried to be the person Brienne inspired him.Ā P.s.: Still heartbroken that he died, but I think there is some poetic justice with Cercei crashed by the symbol of the power she tried lo long to hold.
anon, I appreciate that youāre being nice and I appreciate that youāre trying to find some sense in this entire thing, butā¦ okay, Iāll go over it and pleaseĀ donāt take me as *me* being mad or whatever but I donāt think a few things were clear here so Iāll try to do it now:
jc in the show is notĀ healthier. it might be different, but itās not and the fact that it might have been less obvious doesnāt mean that they didnāt drag that toxic mess out for four seasons when it had no reasons to exist. now: I was down with looking at it until s4 because that was book canon and I can deal with book canon. I had to look at three more fucking seasons of that toxic abusive messĀ happening and I donāt know if itās obvious or not, but if I have oneĀ thing, like oneĀ in the universe that I canāt deal with, that I hate and that makes me feel sick more than anything else itās emotional/psychological manipulation. and show!jc has that in spadesĀ and I canāt. like, as it is right now Iām pretty damn sure Iād take reading explicit thramsay fic that ends horribly with annexed detailed fanart than even rewatching five seconds of a scene where those two are in the same frame and is2g if they had kissed at the end of 8x05 Iād have thrown up. pleaseĀ for the love of everything if you think itās better than book canon your prerogative, but donāt come at me informing me of that because I canāt. especially not right now;
I honestly canāt give much of a damn about the stuff c. suffered when 80% of that is her damn fault and Iām especiallyĀ talking about tommen who only did that because she gave zero shits about his opinion in anything but weāre supposed to think sheās a good mother or that she cares which makes me especially sick because people have decided thatĀ for her out of nowhere when we all know how much leeway they give catelyn for that and Iām honestly done with it, and maybe itās not inconsistent that heād care, but itās inconsistent how they wrote it;
because I mean if they showed some half-regret over leaving brienne or she was mentioned or if the entire thing was addressedĀ instead of spending four episodesĀ building it up and then did in four minutes what it took six feet under an entire seasonĀ to do with nate and brenda back in the day is bad writing, has no consistency, it also murdered tyrion as a character because I canāt believe that in the span of two episodes he goes from Iām happy that youāre happy to WELL I DONāT HATE MY SISTER SO MUCH JUST GO TO PENTOS when ah, wait, c. sent bronn to kill both of them?
alsoĀ āwho ever cared abotu the innocentsā or whatever the fuck that line was??? wow, thatās allĀ this asshole has ever cared about in canonĀ to the point of losing his reputation for it not counting c. or tyrion at least in the very beginning of the seriesĀ when everyone thinks heās an ass, and I have to buy that this episode was halfway decent writing?
also: even if I was okay with jaimeās ending - which I could have been if at least it amounted to somethingĀ because that entire episode was a plot hole after plot hole (whereās widowās wail? he waves WITH THE FAKE HAND??? WTF??, did heĀ ring the bells so he actually helped destroy the city without knowing dany would lose her shit through jon conningtonās ghost possessing her? if bran didnāt rat him out bc he had A ROLE TO PLAY what was the damned role since he hasnāt done anything until now that warranted it??? just the first four) and he didnāt evenā¦ help cersei or take her out like he literally was there to just give her some basic human comfort and rocks fall everyone dies, whatās the sense of it?? -, anon, this entire narrative leaves brienne horribly;
because sorry but in the best of chances sheās notĀ pregnant and someone lies to her and tells her jaime went there to stop cersei and tried to be honorable (which given what they made him say about not caring for the innocents makes it bad writing but nvm) and she can think okay, I waited years for the right guy to trust/open myself to and then he left me like that but at least he did it for a good reason now will I ever trust anyone again, maybe, and I assure you that getting over such a thing is notĀ too easy, but that would be the best option. mid-bad option: she still thinks he did it for the right reasons but sheās pregnantĀ so hey, she has an illegitimate child from a man who left her like that to go into a senseless death making her believe she was wrong about him and breaking her heart and she has to play single mother in tarth without him or maybe she can hedge knight along with the kid or leave him with pod or smth but that doesnāt look good on jaime either. or worse, sheās pregnant andĀ she finds out he went just to die with cersei and didnāt even mention her or anything to tyrion along the way so she did all of the aboveā¦. for a guy who at the end of it as the narration puts it just went back to die with c. and a kid he didnāt even know might be real or not when sheļæ½ļæ½could have given him what he always craved/wanted/needed and left her like that? like, anon, even if it was a good ending for jaime, there is no bloody wayĀ that brienne gets out of this mess of a season with a dignified ending unless they somehow manage to pull a miracle out of their arses and sorry but their writing has been so badĀ that I honestly doubt it, not even david milch showing up like the calvarly could salvage this crap of a finale, and for all charactersĀ tbqh, not just them;
on top of that, sorry but it passes the message that brienne, only rep. in this show for nonstandard attractive people who spends years thinking sheāll never find love and suddenly thinks she can be happy with the guy who also fulfilled her greatest dream and opens herself up to himĀ putting her vulnerability on the line (and while I donāt really think the whole virginity thing is that much of an issue since she actually did manage to give it to the guy she wanted it doesĀ mean something in this context)ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦. shouldnāt have done it because wow, left like that without a second thought and without being addressed in the next episode at allĀ by at least tyrion who has spent the previous four episodes either admiring her or trying to get her and jaime together never mind jaime? wow, I mean, I surely signed up to see the character I always saw myself inĀ getting this shit treatment by people who obviously didnāt understand either her or jaime at the bottom of it for as much as I still think 8x04 did it right until the end?
anon, I appreciate your optimism about that narrative, but this episode was so badly written that it managed to about destroy the narratives of characters that werenāt even in it (sansa and brienne, and letās not even discuss sansa because lmao), to have every single personĀ but davos and possibly jon but meh behave ooc given what half of their lines saidĀ if not their actions because even if we take jaimeās actions as your reading (legit) what they made him sayĀ was still atrocious and ooc and same for tyrion, letās not even touch dany or sandor/arya or really anyone that wasnāt davos. I cannot, in all good conscience, find anythingĀ good about this mess because it was badly written. period. even if we decide that the plot and motivations were fine and we try to make them make sense the way you did, the execution was shit, the dialogue was shit, it looked like they werenāt even trying, it did a disservice to every single characterĀ that was in it except davos who was there for five seconds to smuggle stuff and I honestly, honestly, cannot even find the force of will to try to make sense of it.
this entire season has been a gigantic plot hole, it wasnāt coherent within its own narrationĀ see ep. 2 clashing with ep. 8, 90% of what happened post 8x02 was for shock value without giving a single fuck about making it look in character and making the characters behave nonsensically - and I donāt mean just jaime, I mean all of themĀ to serve the undoubtedly wtf shocking ending they have in plan for us which if I guessed already Iāll hate with the force of a thousand suns, and Iām honestly done with trying to make sense of this thing because nothing makes senseĀ anymore. I appreciate that yāall are trying but I give up. I canāt make sense of a narrative that goes likeĀ āweāre doing this because itās cool and if it doesnāt add up with everything we did before who gives a fuckā, and I honestly can do without trying to find a silver lining in a show that has totally twisted the message of the books and turned into an angst fest for which everyone has to be miserable at all costs or itās not good tv, and thatās the last Iām going to say about this specific matter because:
a) Iām tired, b) I want to finish my spitefics and ignore this mess ever happened and concentrate on doing something that makes me happy, c) if I just keep on thinking about how bad this was IN GENERAL I wish jaime was my #1 problem I just feel worse and I donāt need it, d) the fact that they did brienneĀ this dirty and she wasnāt even in this episode is really leaving the worst sour taste in my mouth and itās already bad enough that I have to hope her ending is only 80% crap and not 100% crap, I honestly canāt with discourse that tries to find any basic sense in how this episode was conceived and executed beyondĀ my problems with jc, jaimeās writing and the fact that they managed to get wrong one of his three most basic character traitsĀ that has nothing to do with brienne or jb for that matter.
thanks for being polite and nice about this and I swear Iām not madĀ but I honestly canāt with this episode and I would appreciate if from this point on anyoneĀ could refrain from trying to make jc sound better than it is where I can see it/where I canāt blacklist it because itās reallyĀ not a good idea right now. thanks again and have a possibly nicer than than mine. ;)
#Anonymous#ask post#only slightly less toxic than chernobyl's ruins#anti-cersei lannister#anti-cersei#anti-lannincest#anti-jaime x cersei#got negativity#game of thrones spoilers for ts#jaime x brienne for ts#otp: i dreamed of you#guys i get it but no#and now i'm going to do some work see y'all later
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Iāve been walking around listening to yt rants of 8.03 and trying to heal my broken hopes, and i can say it right now : it was some ol bullshit. The world I invested my time and heart in, my skills rping those f characters around here on tumblr, the show I was comming back to when all of my life was going downhill, it was all bullshit.Ā
And if youāre trying to find some meaning in this bullshit, then I am sorry, but I judge you, I do, feel free to unfollow : Im not sure if Ill be around tumblr anyways.
What was Jon for ? Why bring him back? He did nothing. He wasnāt the prince who was promised. His parenthood reveal goes to shit. There is no reason for him being targaryen other than for him to sit on the iron throne ( no āhis is the song of ice & fire, azor ahai will come from targaryensā prohpecy stuff ) and at this point : who even gives a fuck about this chair anyways ?Ā
White walkers were the ultimate darkness and evil. To show the readers/watchers that politics, conflicts, revange, betrayal, religions our minor poblems are NOT IMPORTANT compared to the greater enemy to be defeated : be it climate change, or death itself, or insert any theory here.Ā
How am I suppose to care about politics and thrones rn ? After the greatest enemy has been defeated?Ā
Itās as if Voldemord was killed in the middle of the series, and now Draco Malfoy is the big bad to be defeated.Ā
As if Sauron was defeated in the middle of Two Towers and now Aragornās claim to gondor is all we have to care about. I CALL BULLSHIT ON THAT.
What was Bran for? His almost decade adventure beyond the wall, his ability to CHANGE MADAFUCKIN TIME, his knowledge of everything? To throw some bullshit one linersĀ āchaos is the ledderā orĀ āthe things we do for loveā? What was he here for? To throw refrencess to better seasons?Ā
Some of the scenes which were VISIBLE, like the dragons flying on clear sky above clouds ( FUCKING MATRIX RIP OFF, OKAY ? ) or lighting the trenches were okay, but what looks good doesnāt make something GOOD, okay ? A person whoās pretty & dum is still dumb? A nicely taken photo of a shit with filters on is still PHOTO OF A SHIT ???!!???Ā Ā
Iām not an expert on the fucking art of war so Iāll leave it out, but one thing : the fuckin dorthraki rode into the open field? WHAT FOR? Oh i know what for, to get that cool shot of their swords dissapearing into darkness, it was PRETTY but it was DUMB!
The fuck jamie lannister, a guy who has one had, managed to fight all night ??? He should be dead. They all should be dead. Alle the people in the crypts should be dead, with sansa, varys, tyrion, gilli&her stupid non-aging baby, all DEAD. They are all just shells of who they were, so itās a mercy killing at this point.
Fucking Sansa donāt even get me started.... Whatās withĀ āonce im queen i will make them love meā ? She walks into crypts, doesnt even care about the scared people and children, doesnāt bring them comfort, anything. At least Cersei have some wine for her women during Blackwater battle.
And Arya.... how much I hate her character... after Arya sailed to Bravos sheās as good as dead to me, really. I canāt stand how non-george-martin-overpowered-tomboy sheās become and I donāt get anyone who sees her asĀ ābadassā. The line Mel gave her about shuttingĀ ābrown,blue,greenā eyes wasnāt prophecy about killing Night King, it was a probhecy about her becoming a MURDER ASSASIN, bc thatās what her story is about : revange, and becoming a dark shell of a human because the need for revange overcame her = itās better to let things go sometimes.Ā
They gave her the night king kill bc FEMINISM, YAY, KWEEN SLAY, and if THATāS how women are empowered right now - by female characters in plot armour killing logic and stripping other characters (Jon/Bran/Dany?) of their purpose in the story - then I am ASHAMED to be a woman.
They should have died... brienne, jamie, podric, tormund, grey worm, missandei, sansa, tyrion, varys, sam, gilly, little sam, + those who were actually killed this episode. At least their deaths would be meaningfull - heroes fighting for humanity against the death, the foe bigger than any of us - I bet now they will get killed for mad!kween d@ny on the battlefield, fighting for a chair.
Or even worse : if they all gonna get happy ending... j0nerys with their incest babies, grey warm&missandei holding hands on the beach somewhere, jamie pushing branās wheelchair, while brienne brushes their daughterās hair and sings jennyās song.... that will be the ultimate bitchslap for all of us.
I would say to you : fuck the d&d, fuck hbbo, go read books, wait for the REAL ending. But tbh... I donāt even know if we will ever get Winds of Winter. Forget about Dream of Spring! GrrM is 70&doesnāt look healthy enough to live next three decades (donāt want to fatshame or anything, cersei would love me cuz I look like an elephant myself) and mind you.... he hasnāt wrote a good book in like 19 last years? The two last books in asoiaf series werenāt that amazing, Dance of Dragons was HORRIBLE in my opinion actually, heard various reviews about his other work.Ā
Maybe this world, this saga really IS too big for one man... maybe we will never get the ending we were promised, just like the prince that was promised was actually a bravos ninja.... maybe we shouldnāt hate on d&d alone bc george martin is guilty of the same thing they are : pride. He was sure he will be better than Tolkien, with his rian-johnsonyās subverting expectations that he cought himself in a web of plots he canāt solve.... ?Ā
Or maybe Iām wrong. Maybe next episode we will see Bran waking up from the coma and the whole last 8 seasons will be just a dream. Hate me all you want, I dare you, but you canāt change the truth :Ā All those hours of rping, video making, art making, listening to asoiaf/got theories an my bus to school, then university, or as I was falling asleep, crying over beloved characters ......
it was all
bullshit.
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Basically a mildly funny, delusional therapy session!
Ok, I can't anymore I just need to let it out.
I've been in bed since this morning as I got food poisoning/stomach flu and I'm quite sure it's because of D&D and not the T/A.
So anyway let's rant...also my nimble fingers might make typos as I'm super dehydrated (feeling like Ghost after fighting with WWs and being abandoned by Jon the Dumbest).
So we start with the funeral.....and its sombre as shit. Well done David Nutter btw. And we move on to eating food š¤®.
Here we go: Dany! I love(d) her so much, but lately she's all over the place going from crazy to crazy in love. Now don't let my lack of detecting any chemistry between her and Resident Emo Boy confuse you BUT are we just all going to sweep the incestous undertones under the pelts?Here I am watching another make out scene???.....but ok I shall resurrect and go to Kings Landing where Cersei is hosting a party (Wall themed I see). After losing her baby (also wth how did she not see them?why didn't she dracarys Eurons ass?), her Sir Friendzone and her BFF once again Dany is made to seem BAD for mourning in a murderous way (ah I guess it's ok if Arya does it....or Snow?), Being held to higher standard .....JUST BC SHE HAS A VAGINA??? ( Dios Mio, Olenna please).
Next up on my list Arya who went back to her old cuddle buddy The Hound.....Kind of digging it. Gendry you dumbass (ā¤ļø) offer her to go on a round-trip of murder (Bonnie & Clyde style) not a marriage. Also mad love for making her an honest woman with those puppy eyes.
Brienne & Jaime ....and this is where we go cray-cray. Dear fellow citizen of Tumblr, if you still reading brace yourself....by the end of the next 2 episodes (if U ARE a BRAIME shipper) you be losing golden hands, legs, basically everything that you can rip off (like Miss Vanjie did when singing No More Pain). So after reading countless (!!!!) posts about how people interpreted that scene (remember dear reader I was ill today so it was a lot) I think we can settle on Prince Charming Now Turned Old Guy Because Of International Incestous Relations is a dumbass with a death wish. BUT is he a good dumbass or a bad one.Now here I'd like to point out two things I didn't see considered:
Jaime already killed a king to save the population of Kings Landing.
Jaime said to Brienne he would have done the deed at Riverrun....but he didn't cus of Brie-Brie .....I'm assuming we all saw the things he did for her that went against Cersei. He went back to rescue her instead of rushing to KL, he arranged for her to leave as soon as Queen Should Have Been Thanos' Wife even breathed in her general direction, gave her instructions and means to protect Sansa even though his sister wanted her dead, took Riverrun in piece BC Brie-Brie asked !!!!! Come on guys after all that you can't believe he would put Cersei before her (or maybe I'm fuckin wrong since D&D don't even seem to know correct details in their behind the scenes cuts). So yes I believe Jamie wants to kill Female Jaime because....if she defeats Dany she is coming for them in Winter fell (also Brienne and Sansa are in WF).
No I don't ship Jaimsa (because hello fuckin weirdos š), but Briennes oath means something to Jaime.
BUT I hate...hate...hate how Jaime left her (the š). He broke her heart after she finally opened it ...and this (D2 will burn in hell, the crossroads demon is on it).
Also my two weirdos having the most relatable and clumsy copulation (yes I said it, someone had to) moment. Like don't we all just flirt like Jaime...so smooth: it's hot in here bitches breeches off. Oh look my poor hand doesn't work I guess I will need your help...š„ŗš„ŗš„ŗ
Brienne will NOT die. I can't believe otherwise.There are some characters you don't touch (Juliet from Lost, Clarke from The 100, Castiel) and she is one of them. I love that Gwen was real about her arc of being a woman this season.
I do think I have an unhealthy obsession with Braime as this episode actually made me sick(no it wasn't the take away) and now I will forever remember this as the night Braime became canon and the day when I felt like The Prince of Dorne when his eyes were popping (oh Oberyn....Pedro Pascal I miss your holiness sexiness).
And what with all the articles/YouTubers predicting pregnancies? We watched (with my friend, I'm not hallucinating from dehydration) people predicting a pregnant Dany, Brienne, Arya (?)....basically everyone with boobs. Chill guys if you worried about repopulating Samwell is on it!
And Tyrion best wingman in Westeros. What even was he doing showing off to GingerBain (btw good for you, tap dat rebound ass babe....and have fun going back to the land of the lost....you could have taken Dumbass Emo with you š¤«). Btw guys how many versions of the Two Dudes Just Hanging And Discussing The Fate Of The Iron Throne While Demeaning Rulers (mostly women) As Incompetent do we have to sit through? Can I like request to see actual things like Two Eyed Robot telling the sisters about the heritage or Sansa telling Tyrion instead of cutting away? That Tyrion and Sansa scene was having me on the edge.
And we come to Sansa. My queen, my sunshine and..... apparently my New Little finger ( is it only me who hates this comparison that reduces her to a power hungry, brothel-less creepy dude even thought she's been doing everything for her family????). I lost it when I heard them bring this up in the Untucked Uncut vid. Like maybe give us some actual scenes with Sansa where we get to see her contemplating her goals and wishes and not just her looking pretty up into the sky (compulsory shot of season 8). I've been feeling so far away from Sansa since season 7 (worst season ever....but this one is a contender).
Also from now on I'm believing in Bronn.He foresaw the Bang and said he will collect later. There will be a later for the boys! Bronn gave up on the castle he's now gone to take over for the Witchy Woman who talked to frogs and Cersei. Big ups for the resident Reversed Three Eyed Raven!
I have read the interview where GRRM said he doesn't agree or like some character fates. I agree GRRM so can you give us a book ....I mean God's it takes me ages to get started on my coursework, bit at least I submit it 10 min before the deadline!
Also the total lack of any mention of Braime in both behind the scenes....??!!!...Might be good news.
#Bonus Fun topics you can bring up at Thanksgiving:
Podrick and the 3some - u go girl!!!
Tyrion and his lack of sex - we've all been there and that's why I need spoilers to satisfy my craving....just like you needed to know about the magic vagina!
Wtf is a Varys anymore? Also Yara?
Ser Dadvos without kids and Red God's is super depressing. Give the guy an orphan!
Greyworm -which shot of his face was more intimidating. Rate from 1 to Dracarys!
Global warming? Dragons near extinction?
*Disclaimer: I love all GOT characters (well, maybe except for I Have One Facial Expression And It's Emo Jon), but I just needed a good rant cus the ones aimed at my friends didn't do it for me š
#braime#game of thrones#brienne of tarth#jaime lannister#tyrion lannister#bronn of the blackwater#sansa stark#arya stark#jon snow#danereys targaryen#samwell tarly#got#gendry baratheon#gendry waters#dadvos#ser davos
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My Thoughts on Thrones (no one asked)
OkAY OKAY OKAY where do I start.Ā
If Iām being honest, I knew from the get-go that six episodes wasnāt going to be enough to wrap up the show like I wanted. But I still had hoped the writers would do it somehow, and they halfway did.Ā
Episodes one and two of the season were fine, and episode three was probably the best episode of the entire show. It was done SO well. I hate fight scenes and get bored with them in two seconds, and this episode was not boring in the slightest. Did I expect Arya to kill the night king? Never in my wildest dreams (kind of thought Bran would have to be the one somehow) but Iām not mad about it.
Episode four was the first time we see Dany going a little Mad Queen , Iām not mad at her characterās turn of events, but I donāt think the show executed as wel l as they could have. I mean look at how well they have done Cersei. Who doesnāt love Cerseiās character?! But we all know she deserves to die. I donāt think Danyās character arc really got this satisfaction. I wish we could have seen more of her in the last episode rather than just have other people talking about how crazy she was going behind her back. They took her from liberator to tyrant in two episodes, and they want me to believe that her killing slave owners and her oppressors led to her burning all of Kings Landingās civilians and should have shown she was mad all along?!? Hmmm. I think you could justify her loss of everyone she cared about in this season, led to her madness, but not that she was mad all along. Although, EMILIA CLARKE HAS GIVEN US EVERYTHING SHE COULD. And Iām sure the books will do a better job of connecting the dots and Iām excited to read that. Because I actually loved Danyās turn of events just not how the show carried it out, I mean I HATED IT and her story is so tragic, but thatās GAME OF THRONES. Idk why I thought Dany and Jon would be exempt from a bad ending, bc thatās not what this show does. And she basically talked Jon into killing her which was perfect, I mean when she says āThey wonāt get to chooseā. Chills. And thatās when Jon knows what he has to do. (I would have liked Cersei to die at the hands of Jamie like this BUT NO ONE ASKED ME)
Drogon melting the Iron Throne was iconic and if there was one point in the last episode where I was going to cry (I was too in shock to cry) it was when he is nudging her (okay wow im going to cry now) and then he picks her up and flies away...alone :(.
I read one article that said if the show had ending there it would have been a satisfying ending and I agree! B/C everything that happens afterword minus Sansaās story, Iām still trying to justify.Ā
Ā When Jon gets sent to the wall I almost laughed, what was the point of him being a Targaryen?!?! Just to be the last straw for Dany to go mad? A reach. However, Iāve had more time to think about it and Jon really never wanted to be a king, even though he would have made a great one (I guess he didnāt care what I wanted). He also loved and belonged in the North, and I loved the symmetry of the first shot and the last. Also thereās no way Iām believing he is going to join the Nightās Watch. Maybe for a little while but then Sansa can pardon him real quick and he can find a nice wilding wife with his best man Tormund and live out a nice peaceful life. I just want him to be happy and not have another lover die in his arms. š
Speaking of Tormund, IāM MAD ABOUT BRIENNE WRITING JAMIEāS BIOGRAPHY. Actually no, Iām mad about the sex scene between him and Brienne. If that had never happened, that scene of her writing about him would have been beautiful, but instead Iām mad at Jamie for being a fuckboy and donāt think he deserves Brienneās forgiveness. He always loved Cersei in my mind, not that he didnāt love Brienne in his own way too, but I didnāt need them to take it further than friendship, especially just for him to go back to Cersei like that.
Okay now on to Branā¦ā¦THIS BOY HAS BEEN KNOWING WHATāS UP SINCE THE BEGINNING RIGHT?! I MEAN THEREāS NO WAY HE COULDNāT HAVE KNOWN DANY WOULD DIE, JON WOULD KILL HER, ETC. And now Mr. āI canāt be king, Iām the three-eyed ravenā is the king of the SIX KINGDOMS. Itās just not doing it for me. And then at the King meeting all he does is say okay guys you got this imma bounce *rolls eyes*. I mean I donāt know who I would have wanted to be king at that point (Sansa, Arya) but I digress.
SANSA STARK MOTHER FUCKING QUEEN OF THE NORTH!!!!! CAN I GET AN AMEN. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! The best moment of the whole EPISODE!!! So satisfying.
There are a few other points I wish had more explanation. The Night King being one, I mean this dude was hyped up since episode one and just ended so quickly. I was a great episode, donāt get me wrong, but Cersei and the south didnāt even have to witness it?! I guess I wanted more talk about it in the aftermath. Or maybe a scene at the end where you find out heās not dead oooooh. Also Bran being the three-eyed raven, what exactly does he do now with this power?? I need more information. And Dany literally brought dragons back fromĀ extinction for what reason??? Where is Drogon going? Hopefully the books can wrap up these questions for me, and I do think if they were already finished the show could have had a more complete ending.
All that being said, GAME OF THRONES IS THE BEST SHOW OF ALL TIME, YOU CANāT TELL ME OTHERWISE. I donāt regret watching it at all and would watch it again in a heartbeat. And if you havenāt watched it, you still should.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk. And thank you GRRM for not killing Tyrion or Sam.Ā
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My Try Not to Die List GoT s8 (updated 8.04)
(& other character lists)Ā
I guess Iāll put aĀ āread moreā in since Iām gonna cross them off as they go?Ā
Everything is alphabetical and not ranked.
The Big Ones
Arya Stark - Iāve been rooting for you since day 1 and while I donāt want you to win, your ass better be there to control the chaos of who is left
Brienne of Tarth - I never expected to love you as much as I do. Stay alive! Also, you deserve better than Jamie. He may seem like a weirdo, but give more Tormund a chance
Bronn - my buddy, my friend, my guy. Your ass better stay alive at least until you get your castle!
Cersei Lannister - I know you wonāt last, but I want you to. Hopefully, wherever you end up there are elephants. (Also, if anyone is going to kill you it sure as hell better be Arya)
Davos Seaworth -Ā you are too pure for this world, I donāt care what people have told youĀ
Gilly - I just want you to be happy and feel loved and paid attention to.
The Hound - If Arya lives you have to! Itās a rule now. Brotp?Ā
Lyanna Mormon - I will need an entire box of tissues and therapy if anything happens to you. I donāt care how fucking noble it is!Ā Tiny Warrior - you went out like the badass fucking warrior you were. (Also, I am SO FUCKING GLAD I didnāt have to watch you die twice). You are by far my most favorite noble death
Meera Reed - I donāt know if weāll ever see you again, but fuck Bran and your loyalty and kind spirit is appreciated by all.
Samwell Tarly - If you donāt start paying attention to Gilly when she talks Iām moving you to a different list. But like, donāt die. You can still be nice to your wife and listen to her regardless of what plot-important things are happening.
Sansa Stark - Youāve grown on me. Your mother would be proud.Ā
Tormund Giantsbane - You go get Brienne of Tarth and treat her like she deserves. Also, are you and Luke Skywalker somehow related bc this milk thing... (still alive? dead? I dont know? anyone?)
Tyrion Lannister - What would the world be like without your random philosophizing be?Ā
I suppose you should stay / I like you, but youāre not my faves / You still have plot potential that I might care about
Bran Stark - Iām just curious where your little prophetic, emotionless ass is going to lead us.
Eddison Tollett - Youāre #cleanBronn! Bronn after a shower and a shave and a bit more dignity! What will we do without you?Ā
Ellaria Sand - Obviously youāll die eventually, but you done dirty and now you get to pay. I wonāt mind seeing that revenge play out a bit more.
Gendry - Arya might be sad? Youāre not awful.
Grey Worm - Youāre nice and brave and honorable. Also, I donāt want Missandei to be sad.
Hot Pie - You keep doing you, and try not to die
Jamie - *rolls eyes* I guess you still have a lot to do and contribute... for now.
Jon Snow - There are people Iād like to die before/if you do. I also wonāt be sad if you survive. Just... stop listening to everyone and start forming your own opinions again. I miss that Jon.
Missandei - Youāve somehow put up with Dany this long and kept your sanity.
Podrick Payne - You have a good heart and I donāt dislike you on my screen.
Theon Greyjoy - Your redemption arc seems promising. 100% redeemed
Yara Greyjoy - Youāre a badass bisexual and it would be sad to go.
Donāt Let the Door...
Daenerys Targaryen
Euron Greyjoy
Jorah Mormont
Melisandre - I knew you were gonna show up and do something badass, but I still put you on this list, but omg GAH! 100% A+ (still pissed you got a baby fried, but way to FINALLY find your game)
The Mountain
Qyburn
Neither Here Nor There...
Robin Arryn Ā - my dude, I forgot you were even still alive. Unless you and Tormund are going to have a horribly scarring conversation about milk then I wonāt miss you.
Beric Dondarrion - oops I thought you died with your #workwife
Jawen Hāghar - the internet canāt seem to decide if youāre even alive, but it would be interesting to see you show up maybe? unless you actually killed Arya when we werenāt looking and are just using her face bc that would not be cool my friendĀ
Varys - sorry bud, youāve kinda been doing nothing for a while now? If anyone can hit the sidelines and survive though itās you so... good luck?
I Wish You Were Still With Us
Brother Ray - I forgot about you until I was researching this. You still had a lot to teach
Catelyn Stark - you grew on me
Hodor - too pure for this world
Jojen Reed - you have always reminded me of my neighbor who killed himself and if your story wasnāt sad enough that makes me sad
Lady Olenna Tyrell - I hope I go out as gracefully and dignified (with that spark of mischief up your sleeve at the very end) as you did!Ā
Margaery Tyrell - nobody got under Cerseiās skin quite like you did. If things were different you two might have been.... something
Master Aemon - I didnāt like you in The 10th Kingdom, but I liked you here.Ā
Mycah - you deserved better
Myrcella Baratheon - baby girl <3Ā
Ned Stark - duh
Renly Baratheon - Iām not even sure how I feel about this, but enough to put you on the list.
Rickon Stark - baby boy <3Ā
Ros - you broke my heart
Selyse Baratheon - I mean... what did you think was gonna happen... but youāll always have a place in my heart bc of The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill and Came Down a Mountain
Shae - I didnāt always LOVE you, but you made Tyrion happy and were pretty strong in your own right
Shrine Baratheon - baby girl <3Ā
Syrio Forel
Talisa Stark - you have your grandfatherās eyes, but are so much prettier
Tommen Baratheon - baby boy <3
YgritteĀ
I Wish You Were Still With Us... So That You Could Die Again
Alliser Thorne
Joffrey Baratheon
Petyr Baelish
Ramsay Bolton
Stannis Baratheon
Tywin Lannister
Viserys Targaryen
Walder Frey
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Season 7, Episode 7
Previously -
Pirate Pacey took Yara and Theon was, well, Theon
Sansa sends Brianne to Kings Landing
Arya being evil to Sansa with the faces
All that North of the Wall Drama!
OK LETāS DO THIS!
Kings Landing
The Unsullied and Grey worm!
OMG this is insane (this is the theme for the night)
Bronn and some boiling oil, nice
Deep thoughts from Bronn on the unsullied
Dothraki time! I really feel like I would cut myself riding a horse while carrying a sickle
Pirate Paceyās fleet off Kings Landing
All those people in a tiny place - Is Jon talking about Kings Landing or NYC? Ā
The Hound being sneaky ā yep white walker still in the box
Kill the silver haired b*tch first ā wowza, stay classy Cersei
I feel like Jamie is starting to see her for what she is more and more but who knows if he will do anything about it
The Dragon Pit - thatās not creepy at all
Everyone sizing each other up, this is SO good
Brianne and the Hound ā I appreciate their honesty and love them talking about their little murdering stepchild Arya
SO many conversations and allegiances in this walk ā this is like West Wing walk and talk but Westeros style
Dragon Pit equals Westeros Colosseum ā side note I learned The sequence was shot at the ancient ruins of a Roman gladiatorial amphitheater outside Seville, Spain. Most of what youāre seeing here is an actual historic site dating back to the fourth century BC ā not set dressing or special effects.
Are they hot in all that fur? Ā Seems like they need the summer pelts in Kings Landing
Hound and his Frankenstein brother meet again but the Hound aināt afraid
Jamie and Brianne ā SO MUCH HAPPENING
Pirate PACEY and Theon
Where is Dany?
OH SH$T SHE IS COMING IN ON THE DRAGON
I didnāt think she was coming ā nice trick GoT (yes, I fool easily)
Dany just did her āIts Britney b$tchā walk up in to the pit
OMG Cersei is true evil
Tyrion is trying to get things going and Pirate Pacy being an a$$hole just because he can be
Tyrion is really the best person to do this speech
I think they should let white walker attack Cersei and end this
It is leg day for the Hound bringing up the magic box
It scared Cersei, that I enjoyed
I feel like she is plotting how to use them to fight for her, thatās not good
EAT THE MAESTER!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!! Ā No such luck
Jon ā Now sit right there in that chair and let me show you how itās done
Did he leave out the Valyrian steel option for killing them? If so, thatās interesting
Pirate Pacey is like screw this, I am out!
Seems too easy for her to accept but we will see
OH SNAP! Ā Jon that was not the right time to announce your love for your new queen. Ā Cersei did not see that coming and come on Jon! Ā You are beautiful, but dude learn to read a room!
Jon is realizing his mistakeā¦.again
Jamie BE A MAN!!! GRRRRR
Jon you are too good for your own good
Sheās definitely gonna murder you
The last time Tyrion was near the mountain was the Oberyn fight right?
Sweet moment with Jamie and Tyrion, if only Jamie was more of a man
YOU CANNOT MURDER TYRION
Tyrion wasnāt so sure how that was going to turn out with Frankenstein the Mountain but I appreciate the guts
A drink has been earned
Yep, she is preggers - I love that Tyrion is so smart
Back at the dragon pit, Jon and Dany do some bonding over old dragon bones
I feel like they are beating us over the head by continuing to bring up the Dany canāt have kids thing ā I agree Jon, maybe the crazy witch isnāt a reliable source
Here comes Cerseiā¦.
TYRION SAVES THE DAY!!!!!!
Oh yeah, Winterfell, totally forgot about them
Sansa knows he ābent the kneeā, at least our ravens are still super fast for the finale
Littlefinger stirring up sh$t, but even he doesnāt know the real story
STOP CONFIDING IN HIM
HE IS SO EVIL
He is enjoying this WAY too much
OMG WHY ARE JON AND SANSA SO STUPID and naĆÆve!? Ā (As I go through and update this from last night, I realize my wrongness but it was my honest reaction at the time š )
Jorah is so jealous of Jon, well, really anyone around Dany
Youāre a Greyjoy and youāre a stark ā and Jon is a stark and Targaryen he just doesnāt know it
I really donāt need to see Theon get beat up again. Ā Please let this end differently
OK THAT IS HILARIOUS ā Theon finally did something!
Winterfell
Sansa, please donāt be stupid
SHE Went there
OH SH$T
Sansa has receipts!
Littlefinger is actually freaking out
This is amazing
Thank you Sansa, for being so smart ā I take back my earlier comment, only Jon needs to learn to be less naĆÆve
Iām a slow learner, its true, but I learn
Oh he is bending the knee but it isnāt going well
I feel like Varys should be there, he would really enjoy this
Is she going to kill him ā oh yes she is!
Clean up in the great hall and Sansa is now the HBIC
Kings Landing
OMG Cersei lied ā I should have seen this coming
For the love of all the Gods old and new she is truly the most selfish person ever ā especially now that Littlefinger is dead
Jamie kill this woman. She will get you killed
No one walks away from me
Speaking of walking away, I knew that was too easy that Pirate Pacey just strolled on out of the pit
That is twice tonight Cersei has almost killed a brother
OH he done gone honey, heās had enough
#WINTERISHERE #FORREAL
The scene of snow in Kings landing is like the creepiest Christmas movie ever
Winterfell
Oh it is Sam! I honestly forgot about Sam
I remember everything ā Bran, why must you be such a creep
I became the 3 eyed raven ā Oh ā I donāt know what that means
Bran you could use these powers in a more useful way
You saw this in a vision ā nope raven. Ā Yeah that was classic and I laughed
OMG IT IS HAPPENING
R + L = J for reals and legit
Uh oh - Jon and Dany about to make a baby and this is even more awkward with Bran talking over it
Why is Tyrion lurking?
Yeah dude you need to tell him about this, yesterday would have been a better time but please tell him
Finally the Stark sister reunion we wanted!
Bran be trippin
Is anyone we care about still at the wall?? Ā Because I think it might be about to break
Oh Tormund, you CANNOT kill him
OH SH$T THE Knight King is has arrived
Where is the dragon?
OMG that is a lot of walking dead
OH SNAP THERE IS THE DRAGON
Send the raven NOW ā or wait, Bran can see this right??
The knight king is the dead dragon rider
He is shooting ice! But like Electric ice
GO TORMUND!!!!!!!!! RUN!!! (I chose to believe he is alive because we didnāt see him die. Ā He has to make giant babies with Brianne.)
Well the wall is no more and I sort of blame Jon for this, for giving him the dragon
SERIOUSLY more happened in 80 minutes than in all of like season 4 and I am exhausted
Me basically all 80 minutes ā
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Game of Thrones Liveblog
So, Tumblr is messing up my post a little and this is the third time I am posting this. Oops.Ā
Because I knew Iād have a shit ton of thoughts and comments and feels and I cannot just scream them at my wall. So i decided to freak out by penning my thoughts down. And then I decided to post it cuz why not?Ā
This is gonna be long. And full of the nonsense that is my thoughts. Happy reading (if you decide to read it).Ā
Here we go. Strapped in for a ride.
Damnnnn do i love this meet-up or not. Look at each individual looking at their personal enemy. Look at the camera panning. Listen to that music.Ā - *flails*
Lol dany knows how to make an entrance - which company offers this cab ride i want it Euron go fuck yourself bruh i literally forgot u even existed Y'know im actually afraid the crate will be empty and the wight would have escaped - nothing is happening fuck Oh thank fuck - apparently the undead dude was asleep lol - in the middle of the day? - same bro. Dayum he's still going after beijg cut into two - i just saw his intestine ew Cersei gettin scaaared Ok but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA jon doing a full on demo right there??? - you know the kind when sales people do when tjey want u to buy a product - "you can purchase the dragon glass at a 100 bucks per piece" The crown accepts your truce? I feel queasy? Like his is GoT there's got to be a catch here? -thereeee it is - but he is NOT neds son is he I have a lot of mixed feelings about jon pledging himself to dany. Jamie you love brienne stop fighting it. Be like tormund. "Fuck loyalty" "I'd rather fuck you" - I had to. I'm sorry. YES Ā JONSNOW THAT IS HOW PPL GET KILLED FFS MATE - he truly knows nothing Highkey terrified for tyrion Cersei pls you'd have killed tywin if u thought it'd help yo ass. Stop harping on it. - i do sympathize a little w her regarding myrcella and tommend tho Tyrion u mad? āPut an end to me"? Can u not? U know she will. - dāawwwwwww cersei still likes her brother - um is there a catch to this?
Lol tyrions like shes pregnant? Not again. - i like how he never asked her who the father is. Jon is fcking cracking me up in this epiaode - he goes to a corner and finds a toy to sulk with - dany has to come coddle him -Ā ādo u want me to kiss the boo boo away, honey?ā - i am loving this
I mean look at this
Hilarious "I cant have children " "who told u that" - aka jon volunteers as tribute Listen i really dont wanna ship jon and dany bc it's incest but these kids are creeping into my dead heart and building a home in here - they are sharing a tender moment and jon looks whipped af - Im losing it "We'll face it tgt" - TYRION WORKED HIS MAGIC - the point where i think its safe enough to be a little happy Littlefinger why are u still alive I really hope sansa is playing a game here - family > this fucking creep - girllll please!! - petyr bitch i hate u sm can u stop making sansa think the worse of her own sister HONESTLY I WILL KILL U STOP BOTHERING MY GIRLS. - i will fly into my laptop screen and wipe that smug smile off ur face fight me ...how did they get back to Dragonstone this fast? - which other company sponsored their ride i want that as well "We sail together."
is theon gonna die - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA DUDE THATS THE GREATEST FIGHT MOMENT I HAVE EVER WITNESSED - how will u hurt one's dick...when they dont.even.have.one????? - amazing. - go theon!! For yara!! Sophie T always looks so ethereal in snow. OMFG YES YES YES YES YES YES SHE WAS PLAYING A GAME FUCK YES brb hyperventilating OH YESSSSS HE DED. THE MOST ANNOYING MOFO IN THE WHOLE OF 7 KINGDOMS IS DED - arya literally had no time to waste - his death is more satisfying than frey's??? Wtf. Amazeballs. I KNEW cersei would pull this shit. - i am lowkey impressed, not gonna lie Cersei this is why u can't have nice things. Jaimie is gone now. Aaaand winter has come. Everytime i see sam i get reminded of rhaegar and lyannas marriage and i just ipnwshxbjndjdnubd. Ya feel me? Lollll bran be creepin sam out now. Omg. The truth. Shit. My stomachs doing flips. DO U HERE ME SCREAMING. CUZ I AM. I am fucking weeping we finally got to see rhaegar. He loved her. - i am in tears. - i mean he loved her at rhe expense of elia and his two kids and that's shitty - but i am still in tears. U guys my heart can't take this they just cut to jon and dany - he loved her and she loved him - my emotions are in overdrive now Aegon Targaryen.Ā
Aegon Targaryen.Ā
I am dead.
I had to take a 10 min break, no kidding. I'm back. 10/10 jonaerys made a baby on the boat. - i am now on board this ship - i even used their couple name, see Sisters supporting each other. I am here for this shit. "The lone wolf dies but the pack survives." - great im crying again. O shit. The night army is here. O FUCK ME - viserion and the...ice fire? Let tormund survive pls i need him to unite with brienne - have i mentioned how hard i ship them? Oh my fuk. That was easy. Ā They're beyond the wall now.
I...need more.
My thoughts as i start at the rolling end credits: My mind stopped working after 'Aegon Targaryen'? For real? @david and dan yāall do this shit every fcking episode can u not?? And now we have to wait for a year? Fuck everything and everyone.
Gonna go read fanfics and flip the shit out now. Bye.
...Aegon Targaryen.
(gif originally posted here)
#game of thrones#game of thrones spoilers#game of thrones liveblog#game of thrones season 7#spoilers#GoT#jon snow#daenarys targaryen#sansa stark#arya stark#cersei lannister#tyrion lannister#jaimie lannister
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been writing braime au drabbles on my priv acct for fun but i cant finish any of them so..... to those looking for ideas, here are some auās that i canāt get off my mind and would love to see more of in ao3/tumblr (under the cut bc itās so long im so sorry):
crimson peak - iĀ mean cāmon... itās perfect guys.....i have no idea who would play dr. alan though. maybe the hound??? but like platonic
real steel - lisTEN i couldnt stop thinking about this all day... selwyn is jaimeās former boxing coach... which makes brienne his old-and-soon-to-be-rekindled flame that practiced w him back in the day... cersei + robert are dead and thereās a custody battle over lil tommen.... jaime, his ānephewā tommen, and brienne teach Oath, the sparring robot some killer boxing moves and fight their way to robo championship, becoming a family
pacific rimĀ - i found only one on ao3!! braime would totally be drift compatible and the best part is that cersei doesnt have to be evil here. in my drabble, jaime loses cersei and his right hand to a category 5 kaiju attack. cue angst. he retires as a pilot but decides to stay at the base to train cadets (the real reason he cant pilot anymore is because he keeps chasing after cersei in the drift, clinging onto her memory desperately ohoho). brienne is one of the cadets he trains but jaime cant stand her naivete and b/w outlook on the world (deep down tho, its because he once held the same ideals as she did that resulted in cerseiās death. he sees her as a liability to her future co-pilot) so he picks on her a lot. brienne, sick of his shit, boldly challenges him to a duel, setting the terms that if she wins, jaime has to stop picking on her but if he wins, she has to quit the jaeger programme. to NO ONEāS SURPRISE, the duels ends w a tie! i named their jaeger Ursa Maiden because... you know...Ā
battle: los angeles - is there enough military fics?? lance corporal tarth kicking alien ass and saving staff sergeant lannister gives me strength
harry potter - WE COULD DO SO MANY THINGS WITH THIS... brienne the halfblood hufflepuff prefect and jaime the pureblood gryffindor troublemaker. rival quidditch captains? best duelers of their respective years? eventual auror partners? all three, because destiny has fated them to be together always? also consider: jaime was said to have murdered the then minister of magic but was not sentenced to azkaban thanks to tywin pulling a few strings. and honourable, hardworking brienne, the first hufflepuff and woman to get an Outstanding in DADA for NEWTS, the first person to best jaime aka the lion of gryffindor in a duel, and the one lucky enough to be mentored by auror!Renly. also i think we can all agree jaime would sayĀ āwait til my father hears about thisā to get out of trouble
the walking dead -Ā dudes i have not been able to stop thinking about this au too, like jaime and brienne from opposing communities, meeting each other during a supply run and fighting over a jackpot supply of Useful Things but when theyāre just about to kill each other over it- SURPRISE! a convenient horde appears! they become temporary allies to survive, somehow saving each othersā asses along the way, jaime getting bit on his hand trying to save her and brienne repaying the favour by chopping off his hand to stop the infection, they spend a week in an abandoned cabin in the woods to recuperate, jaime bathing in the river with her where he explains why he had to kill the twd!aerys + possible romance, confusion w where they stand w each other and whether or not they can continue this fragile alliance if they go back home, jaime selfishly telling her they could just stay here in the cabin, start a new life together and never go back to their respective communities, brienne saying she canāt bc there are people to protect back home (from his people) so she leaves, jaime leaves too because cerseiās back home but heās worried that the next time he meets brienne, itāll be as enemies.... do yāalls feel this
superheroesĀ - jaime is the perfect charismatic speedster?? and brienne w super strength??? if u guys play ttrpgs, jaime would be The LegacyĀ or The ReformedĀ and brienne the TransformedĀ in Masks
kingsman - brienne is lancelot and tyrion is merlin AMIRITE
dragon age - (da:o timeline) brienne, a templar from lothering saves jaime, one of the commanders of king cailanās army and survivor of the Battle of Ostagar who was captured by howeās men and labelled a traitor (heād be in one of the cages like Sten!). eventually they get conscripted into the grey wardens by the Warden, becoming the Wardenās travelling companions. would be cute if the Warden wanted to save time and send them off on a treaty mission together. also how perfect would it be if the couslands were the starks... rendon howe could be littlefinger too...
mass effect -Ā i friggin loved me3 multiplayer so i can totally see brienne as a n7 destroyer and jaime as a n7 slayer. the two of them wouldāve made such a good team that they were considered instrumental to the reaperās defeat on earth. also they totallyĀ survive the war and settle down in the citadel and adopt a bunch of alien + human orphans. maybe before the war, they were spectres who butt heads a lot bc of diff mission interests.Ā
the proposal - I NEED TO KNOW, HAS ANYONE DONE THIS YET??? bc if there is, i wanna read it immediately.Ā in my head, jaime could be the jerk boss who begs brienne to marry him to avoid getting deported. but instead of going back to tarth that weekend, they go to casterly rock to meet jamieās family. same premise as the 2009 film, but slightly different and way more fun with cersei and tyrion around. also consider: the image of gwen dancing and singing to Get Low
to all the boys iāve loved before - okay... hear me out... lara jean is brienne, kitty is arya, and sansa is margot but younger than brienne and instead of college, sheās in paris for a highschool student exchange programme. brienne is also a step-sister to the girls, cat took her in after her parentsā deaths. MEANWHILE josh is teen!sandor who sansa broke up with before she left for paris but is still best friends with brienne, peter is jaime(!!!) who kissed her during truth or dare years ago, and lucas is of course renly!! also gen is cersei but jamieās cousin instead of sister. this is so complicated but i find it so cute still?????
i found this au from a prompt list on tumblr and its perfect: āsingle parents whose children are rivals in a talent show/ sports competitionā. the children are tommen and arya, but brienne is aryaās foster mum since cate and nedās death
naruto - ok so theyāre both from different villages but become allies for a dangerous mission.... or brienne is hunting jaime bc heās a missing nin from her village (catelyn would make a great kage holy shit).... whatever it is, you could totally work in a bath house scene :)
bleach - BRIENNE IS ASSIGNED TO JAIMEāS DIVISION AS HIS NEW LIEUTENANT IMAGINE THEIR DYNAMIC sometimes i lay awake thinking about how tite kubo would draw brienne and jaime. [holding a butter knife] he better not give her ginormous boobs
where rainbows end/love rosie - yāall feel this too or is it just me, like just the idea of brienne opening a beach hotel in tarth... i need more brienne by the ocean fics in my life tbh. also im such a sucker for fics made up of purely texts between the characters then ending it with them meeting ahdasdjadsjad anyway Jaime is Alex and Hyle as Greg.
I Wish I Could Write These But Should You Find It Equally Interesting To Write About, Please, By All Means, Take My Brain Juice And Make It Beautiful And Let Me Know So I Can Give You Kudos And Comments Full of Squealing and Love
#jaime x brienne#braime#brienne of tarth#im fairly new here so if i didnt notice these au's in ao3 im terribly sorry#still reading as many fics as i can during the cny holidays#i used to use ellipses ironically but look at me now#this list is so long i have no life i just spend it thinking about my otp together in different universes#i have too many fandoms yeesh
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Thoughts on GoT S8 E2?
Death. Lots of it!
Serious answerā¦ letās see:
First off this is more theories for the next few episodes bc I think itās all going to overlap. I didnāt watch the books. Iāve only watched the early seasons more than once. (Bad fan I know). So, most of my thoughts are very very loosely researched or not at all. A lot of them are just crack
S8.02
One thing Iām trying to consider is that there are a LOT of unresolved things happening and NOT a lot of time to wrap everything up. Theyāve said that theyāve filmed multiple endings and Iām afraid that different loose ends will tie up with different endings, soā¦ bummer :/ Maybe theyāll release them later (I meanā¦ more $$$ for them right?)
- Tyrion is going to do something that might hurt the greater good on behalf of Cersei. Their last conversation he was very emotional and obviously still very fucked up feeling and guilty about Marcella and Tommen. Now that heās found out sheās pregnant. He got a very strange look on his face, they cut the scene short, and he was very gruff and short about his answers to everyone. Heās been a littleā¦ distracted and absent-minded sense then. Possibly more guilt and debating on which choice is really the right thing to do.
- Dany is really going to show sheās losing her shit. Itās been a long time coming, and that look she gave Jon when he told herā¦ Everyone has been calling or teasing/saying that Cersei is āThe Mad Queenā. Which, I meanā¦ sheās not the sanest at the moment BUT I think Dany is going to be that one to officially get that title.
- Melisandra (who Iām not a fan of from way back) is definitely up to something. That conversation she had with Varys was pointed somewhere. I feel like her whole āweāre both going to die hereā was just a vague weāre both here for the long haul and not that their fates/deaths are in any way tied together
- Ser Davos is never going to see his wifeāthat I didnāt evenāremember him having (sheās been mentioned twice?). Well, he might see her, but we wonāt. I hope for his sake! Heās on my please try not to die list. All the shit heās been through and not going home, Iām starting to see him almost like Odysseys/Ulysses trope
- Samwell (also a fave) has always wanted to be a wizard right? I think he definitely is and/or has magic to some degree. Heās kind of blundered through a lot of things successfully. He saved Gilly, killed a white walker, the other early white walkers just flat out ignored his presence, cured Jorah, people tend to listen to him and take his advice A LOT even though he doesnāt particularly seem like the type of person youād take advice from. I love the idea that this is just all his own skills, but he wants to be magical so much that I think it would be sweet.
- Hereās where it turns to crack. I was doing a bit of research on the stuff that Maggy the Frog told Cersei. I looked at both show and books stuff. Book Maggy the Frog had a family tree. Some rando on it who we know nothing about other than he was sent with other people when Tywin this guy was among them (in the books). His name is Samwell. Now I know obviously the Tarlyās most likely are not any lineage coming from her. Samās dad even boasts about killing her. BUT Samewll also looks nothing like his family. Name kids after relatives is a pretty typical thing here.
So, if you were Randyll Taryly and this kid you have in your house youāre pretending (for whatever reason) starts showing possible magical traitsā¦ you might be so anti-magic that youād go off and try and eradicate that lineage just out of fear it might come out or something? Idk
- People are theorizing that this entire thing is Sam recording the history and telling this story. I would much rather it be Gilly telling little Sam and having picked up where he left off. Because I love her and how cool would it be from her starting point to evolve into that? Sheās already shown herself to be useful and her reading is nearly perfect now.
- Crack theory: Arya is dead and the faceless man is working in her stead. Very unlikely. Doesnāt quite make sense. Why would he kill her and then go off and move through her life? Beats me. The Waif wouldnāt make sense either. But that would fuck me up lol and could explain why Nymeria āknewā her, but didnāt āKNOWā her. He also knows about her list and who is on it etc. He also still owes her a kill. Their bargain was that she took his name off her list, not that it canceled out that kill. Lots of more logical theories out there about this already being taken care of between him, the waif, and Arya.
- Ser Brienne is Azor Ahai (reincarnated?) or the prince(s) that was promised if theyāre not the same. Iām not going into details on this one or weāll be here all day. Message me if you want more?
- Unlikely, but maybe since Jon died the Night King will have some influence/power over him
- Popular theory: the Night King is going to reanimate the dead Starks. Eh, even if that happens it wonāt really be āourā Starks. How many of their bodies actually made it back to Winterfell? I do think theyāre coming back in some way or another. Most likely this way. (also in the books the catacombs are bigger than all over Winterfell and I guess thereās a theory there might be dragon eggs in there idk)
However, I have another theory. That makes absolutely no sense. Ever since Melisandra kind of lost her faith/way she keeps disappearing and returning. Which sheās not a MC so that makes sense. But sheās been getting more and more confident. Then the convo with Varysā¦ my guess is sheās been out researching and/or recruiting (I vaguely remember someone saying she went rogue after Stannis).
We know she brought Jon back from the dead, and that other people have been able to do this. I would love for her to come back and revive the dead Starks so the Night King couldnāt have a hold on them as easily. Theyād still be creepy af and all, but at least not a weapon from the inside.
My other theory about her is thatā¦ Okay, Ned had Ice. Lightbringer had a lot of fire connected to it. Letās just talk about Ice first. It was melted down and made into two swords. Brienne has Oathkeeper. Jamie has Widowās Wail.
(Which how poetic is that that both halves of the swords involved in Brienneās knighting were Nedās sword. Also, Ned who always encouraged Arya to follow unconventional hobbies would totally be down with knighting Brienne I think).
So, Ice is with two people who are gonna be pretty damn important to this fight. Everyone has been going on about the dragons now being fire and ice. What if instead, itās weapons. I donāt know who would wield them. Jon seems pretty attached to his sword. Arya likes her spear and daggers. Idk.
BUT sheās leaving to go to Volantis in the middle of all this. If you look up the history of Valyria you can see thereās a connection between them. Nedās sword was made by a Valyrian blacksmith? I read that in one spot, dunno about accuracy.
It would make sense that if anyone would be smithing a weapon it would be Gendry. But he also feels a bit more important than merely making weapons at this point. Maybe there was more involved with crafting it. Tools involved, additional material, sheās off to find some blacksmith that was related to the original one. She brings back some fire weaponā¦ and then we have 3-4 (if they make two like ice) swords that are fire and ice. Maybe Gendry could be someone who wields it bc as Tormund mentions that hammer is kinda big and kinda slow. Heās going to need something quick and easily maneuverable for this battle.
- my FAVORITE and most UNLIKELY theoryā¦enough big people survive. Dany does become full-on Mad Queen demanding everyone bend the knee or get fried. Sheās out of control. There are very few people who could take her by surprise and not bat an eye. I think sheās wary of Sansa, so that rules her out (that would be cool too though). I think Arya could pull it off, bc ofc! BUT it would be very poetic and create a beautiful parallel if Cersei kills her and becomesā¦ Queen Slayer. It might not fully redeem her, but sheād definitely get some points.
I think thatās all I got. Please Please Please let me know what you think, or ask questions, or give me your own thoughts, etc. I know most of this is crack, but I was kinda trying to think of the most outlandish things.
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