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swan thought i have permission to paraphrase/post: dreamling as a ship posits that the only thing that eludes hob, the embodiment of britishness and all that entails, who has an unquenchable hunger for life and all the time in the world to claim it (an empire the sun can never set on, because it cannot/will not die), is the heart of his stranger - the personification of the collective subconscious. empire can devour the world but it can never colonize the dreams of every person! except that the larger fandom's insistence on him as the universal human implies what if it could. and this is not explored as or considered to be a horror.
#whiteness is always afforded the language of the human#like! what are the implications of one particular nation/state/empire having access to all the power of the collective unconscious#once more i'm reminded of the dreamling fics that used lyrics from hozier's ''eat your young'' as like. romantic.#which is WILD that song is about how capitalism eats EVERYTHING including the future#it is NOT romantic it's HORRIFYING that's the POINT#once again not putting this in the character tag i'm not trying to start fights i'm just#the NARRATIVE FUNCTION of hob matters in that every character's narrative function in sandman matters#bc DREAM is a narrative function who is also a person#so what is it doing in a broader sociocultural or even fandom ecosystem sense#if you posit that hob represents EVERYONE
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do u ever speak too soon & immediately regret it.
#yes this is about the trade that just happened three minutes ago#clown shoes of prophecy in the tumblr tags#no i am not Doing Well#I THOUGHT I WAS GODDAMN SAFE FROM THE BRUINS#to be deleted but i am literally resisting the urge to screech like a feral animal in the gym right now i am being soooooo normal#WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME PERSONALLY SPECIFICALLY IāM GOING TO CRY INTO A HOLE I CANāT DO THIS NARRATIVE ITāS ONLY DYLAN LEFT YOU TOOK HIM#i have to pretend to be normal :) i have to take an exam :) and function as a human being :) instead of crouching like a bug on the floor#and then i will come home and open up the notes app i made two (?) years ago that says āif tyler bertuzzi ever gets traded itās-ā#& everyone will be suffering with me. sorry not sorry for the influx of sad bertuzzi posts that are coming like i have Such a relationship#with him as a player &i know heās the worst but also it really sucks to watch every guy you thought was the core of ur team get traded away#purely narratively speaking in all bemoaning etc etc etc except for the part where we donāt have a gritty net front presence now &#whoās gonna be larks & lucasā winger & i just cried about tyler in a fight the other day because mickey said āiām sure he wants to protect#those hands but sometimes you canāt you gotta do it for the boysā & i think mickey said ātheyā as in the team wants him to not hurt his hand#again but he has to fight & if that isnāt also v much a part of the old gods detroit it was always tyler champion of blood & guts & giving#& regardless of hockey (EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT IT WAS FOR DRAFT PICKS I HATE DRAFT PICKS WHAT ARE U GONNA DO WITH THOSE like at least if#itās for a guy i could maybe learn to love him but you never remember who you traded to get those draft picks unless itās narratively r#relevant later but right now it feels like itās for nothing & i donāt want to learn to love some new guy in five years i miss tyler already)#anyway. ik full well this wonāt cause me to actually finish tyler borzoituzzi bc i havenāt even properly started it but i can dream of spite
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sorry, i know you said you already said why but i cannot really find it, but why do you dislike jc double death?
this is gonna be short and fast sorry and also ig why i personally think it is not all that likely
1. jc delusion narratives are being deconstructed by the books. them dying together, as much as there is functional irony considering they cause each otherās death in some way (more directly or not lol), still cements aspects of it which works less well in my eyes. not moved by āwomb to tombā personally
2. do not like its impact on jaimeās individuation arc. not even redemption (again. pplās lives have meaning not their deaths. view a character holistically) whatever who cares wise but more-so ājaime is his own individual with an identity that is cemented as separate from his sister obviously now that he is out of his limbo stateā
3. asos dream has cersei leave with the dead lans (tywin and joff and they go to the ancestors) with her flame before jaime who remains there w brienne w his own flaming sword. he is left in the dark with something terrifying and then gets his trauma packaged in long night imagery. jaimeās light going out sure but cersei says āas long as the flames burn ull liveā and brienneās flame is giving light, and she essentially replaces the torch that cers was holding: āthe only light in the cavern the only light in the worldā. ofc all this is up to interpretation i just think there is deliberate open endedness
3. widowās wail is in kl rn (plethora of shit there indicating that he will be the one to wield it lol. i mean who else? this is smn the show also confirms ig. he is gonna have to get that damn sword in his hand somehow) is he gonna go back and forth? how long is cers gonna live?
4. this is just a funny and silly issue bc i truly dgaf atp but like how is it gonna happen exactly? cersei stabs him at the same time? (silly to me. also not the point of valonqar imo from cerseiās angle esp) a rock falls on him after? he gets dragon fire nuked right after? he gets a heart attack at the same time? he kills himself? (alright this one is funny)
5. it could cut things short and make a lot of things/interactions i wanna see happen and imo been set up to happen not possible
#ask#like i truly do understand finding appeal in ātheir own delusions is what leads to a confirmation of somethingā#i just dont think it works well w jaimes arc in the text really#so its gonna take a damn lot from germ for me to find it satisfying lol
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Propaganda why Anakin Skywalker is insufferable:
It's less about his character and more about the way ppl talk about him and narrative around him in a lot of current stuff. The way everyone try to bend over backwards to prove how his reasons to turn Darth Vader were somehow noble or good when almost every single bad guy in Star Wars (expect Palpatine and that guy who taught him) have much more sympathetic history and reasons and how he's not a bad person bc he cried a few times while doing atrocities. And how everyone else gets the blame for all his shortcomings ('they did it but never taught him!!!' -he literally parrotos this same lessons to his own student, it's obvious he knows better but chooses to not apply to himself anything that is slightly uncomfortable to him). Like, I love characters being genuinely not good people as much as a next guy but let's not pretend they're good people actually
the guy has zero critical thinking skills, he whines about everything all the time. I love him, but heās awful to listen to. THIS BITCH. I HATE HIM. NO CRITICAL THINKING. NO SELF AWARENESS. WHINY MURDEROUS ASSHOLE. LIKE SERIOUSLY. He's a JEDI. LIKE. THEY HAVE HISTORY CLASSES!!!! He should have KNOWNNNNNN that when he had prophetic dreams they're not necessarily true!!!!! Also like. In the Star Wars universe, do Jedi just not have imaginations that can create NORMAL dreams when they sleep??? Do Jedi just not usually dream??? If he hadn't gotten paranoid from the dreams of Padme dying in childbirth
BILLIONS OF LIVES WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED. FOR THAT MATTER, if you're gonna have A SUPER ILLEGAL SUPER SECRET MARRIAGE, wouldn't you, I don't know, USE PROTECTION SO THAT YOUR WIFE WHO IS SECRETLY AND ILLEGALLY MARRIED DOESN'T GET PREGANANANT????? LIKE LOOK I LOVE LUKE AND LEIA MORE THAN LIFE ITSELF BUT THEIR PARENTS WERE SO FUCKING STUPID. ANAKIN SKYWALKER HATES CONDOMS BECAUSE THEY DONT FEEL AS GOOD I DON'T FUCKING KNOW. Man is an IDIOT. How can you have had a role model and father figure like Obi-Wan for most of your fucking life and grow up to do the shitty, STUPID things Anakin did. Ok this is way too long I'm sorry but I love Obi-Wan so much and Anakin ruined his fucking life and hes just such a little DICK. MURDERED A WHOLE VILLAGE OF SAND PEOPLE. AND DOZENS IF NOT HUNDREDS OF CHILDRENNNNNNNN. ANGSTY WHINY TEENAGER. FUCK HIMMMMMMM
Yes he was probably directed to act that way but the way his lines were written did not help
Propaganda why Tim Jackson Drake is insufferable:
oh man. i've had enough of this duckboy (as the protag, he's tolerable in yj and stuff.) like when tim is the protag every character in the story becomes Worse. lady shiva gets nerfed. steph is turned into jealous hormonal catfight girl. helena is dumbified and too womanly to function (they have a nice dynamic as long as tim isn't the protag). cassie and tim were great in yj98, but as soon as he is The Protag then she is his best friend's girlfriend and they're barely friends anymore. cass is turned into a rapist. dick is turned into a lazy mediocre robin. jason turns into fucky wucky dumb brute yaoi stalker boyfriend who is suddenly obsessed with tim's awesome skills. 10 y.o. damian somehow deserves to be put on a hitlist because he's a savage and tim is civilized. Sometimes the story is bogged own with tim's internal or external lectures about their flaws and how they need to be better (better like him), except for dick HMMMM wonder why that is. probbly wouldn't be so bothered if tim wasn't crammed into the spotlight of every crossover in the 90s and early 00s and then so much of dc and the fandom wave it around as the peak era of comicbooks. like im sorry. he is not a relatable protag. like the editors literally told newspapers that he was created for gen x white dudes who blow their money on comics and merch, the info is on wikipedia.
White twink rich boy who always has to be smartest bestest boy even when he is a part of a whole group of smartest bestest ppl (aka bat family as a whole, like he's literally THE Mary sue of a group of Mary sues) at expense of literally everyone else
His definitive writer is a conservative Republican. His series is full of moral PSAs, *dumb* *hormonal* girls getting into catfights over him, and blatant sexism and racism. He gives anti-marijuana speeches to a standing ovation, he lectures about how babies need a father and a mother, and sex is for marriage. Other characters suddenly become stupid around him so that he looks smart. The other characters talk about how he is the best, nicest, smartest Robin ever and ALL the others were dumber and meaner than he is, even the one that mentored him. He as a grown adult man is canonically still bitter about ""his"" child sidekick role being given to an actual child (fans pretend he is the victim of this on both sidesānope he's the adult fighting a child for the child sidekick role, no adult wanted to replace him). Did I mention that this character is the amazing pure white boy, and his 10-year-old successor is painted as a savage Arab terrorist who needs to be put in his place? T*m is a 5'9""+ adult grown man, not a delicate sensitive baby boy.
#anakin skywalker#star wars#tim drake#dc comics#insufferable protagonist poll#insufferable protagonist tournament#tournament poll
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Asseylum and Lemrina ponyfications
Some notes under the cut (very disorganized), as well as the transparents of the designs
Asseylum Vers Allusia
Alicorn name: Princess of Peace, Golden Dream, aka "Goldie"
Changeling name:Ā Changeling Princess Labellum, aka "Bell"
Yeah so making her role Peace was a pretty easy decision. In fact, I think that it's kind of funny (in a sad way) that her methods would have worked so much better in the MLP:FiM universe. Girl was born in the wrong world fr
Dove with an olive branch for a cutie mark. I think that's an easily readable symbol of peace. Had to make it gold only bc it would've blended in with her fur coat too much otherwise.
Its eye is closed because Seylum's peacekeeping efforts are too naive to be functional. She brings forth peace but she's blind to what she's doing
Having a "new" changeling design on a "queen" bodytype looks a bit weird to me, personally, but I wasn't going to make her look like a drone so we work with what we have
Also yes, I did turn her necklace into a part of her body on the changeling design, lol
Did I name her "idealistic"? Yes I did. Well, it's more liek a combination of her appearance (her golden hair), her naivete and how, in the beginning of the story, she just kind of represents comforting escapism in how kind and sheltered she is. Very comforting, very impractical. Cloth mom friend.
Originally I was going to name her Elysian Fields (not just idyllic, but literally heavenly. And also for nearly kicking the bucket two times. Girl is literally chilling on the edge of the afterlife for a good portion of the story lmao), but I couldn't find a good nickname for it so I scrapped the idea
Labellum is a mouthpart of mosquitoes and flies and such. I don't have anything smart to say here, I mostly picked that name bc it sounds similar to her human name. Also because it's easy to shorten to Bell, which can easily work as (part of) a pony name for her disguise <3
Lemrina Vers Envers
Alicorn name: Princess of Mimesis, Mirrorveil
Changeling name: Changeling Princess Elytra
So. Mimesis is primarily an art term, meaning a reflection of reality in art. This is about her being an impostor and a copycat, both for political and personal reasons. And also about her trying to create a facsimile of a found family on the Moon Base. Playing house, creating a narrative that doesn't exist. It's also a little bit informed by the Mimetic Desire theory (but only a little bit), specifically in terms of how the formation of Martian community in heneral, and Moon Base community in particular could be related to the concept. There's something to be said that Lemrina is not the one who mirrors other people's desires most. Slaine is. In fact, it's Lemrina (along with Harklight and the others) kind of imposing their desires onto Slaine through S2
I think (for both iterations) all four of her legs, as well as her wings, are too weak to support her body in normal gravity. She can sit upright, though her front legs get tired relatively quickly. But what's more troubling, switching beteen sitting and laying down puts a huge strain on her leg muscles. She could pull that off without external help by levitating herself a little bit while changing her pose, but in general, it's more comfortable for her to stay laying down. As such, I imagine her wheelchair design ought to be more sofa-shaped instead of a traditional wheelchair
As an alicorn, she is a blank flank. I imagine spending her entire life on the moon base, barely interacting with other people aside from a handful of servants, and having no way to experiment with what interests her, I imagine she'd have a hard time figuring out her special talent. She's good at mimicry, yes, but that's not who SHE is, you know?
Mirrorveil is literally two words smashed together. Mirror for her impersonating Asseylum AND trying to connect with Slaine through shared ostracization. Veil is an obscurant. Both for the lie that she perpetuates by stealing Asseylum's identity, and for the lie that she believed while Slaine was leading her on. Girl both confuses other people and is herself blinded. Also, bride's veil, for her failed engagement </3 But mostly I just liked the sound of these two words smashed together
Elytra is the hard-shelled outer wings of an insect. I wanted to name her after a part that's supposed to keep an insect's wings safe, but hers are in tatters. Just as how she wants to protect her home but is helpless to do so
Anyway, RIP Lemrina, you would have loved both Princess Luna and Queen Chrysalis. Moon girl jealous little sister? Impersonating a princess and trying to take the love that she gets for herself through a fake marriage? It's prefect. Also what made me think of this concept in the 1st place
Miscellaneous notes:
I could have given them both full dresses, ponies wear those, BUT I didn't want to. I like ponies better when theyre largely unclothed but accessorized
I think I like the alicorn designs more, but I like the idea of them as changelings better
In terms if other characters, Inaho would be a unicorn, while Slaine would, of course, be a bat pony. Maybe I'll draw them and a bunch of other characters at some point. No promises
Don't ask about the lore implications. If I had to make it make sense I'd explode
And here are the transparent designs
#aldnoah.zero#aldnoah zero#a/z#asseylum vers allusia#lemrina vers envers#ponyfication#my little pony#mlp#š.txt#š.art#do you people see my vision
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scampers towards you on all fours. can i. can i get. can.
clam
OH BOY I LOVE CLAM CROWN!!!!!!!
Sexuality Headcanon:
bi and polyam!!!! just like gingles uwu
Gender Headcanon:
cis guy tho i think if anyone Could get funky with gender in the 1960ās itās motherfucking Callum Crown
A ship I have with said character:
I AM SO ABSOLUTELY FOND OF THE WHITE HOUSE POLYCULE AND YOU KNOW THIS. the amount of crazy conversations weāve had about these three in dms is bonkers but ohhhhhhh i do love them!!! love their tragic asses!!!! i think itās especially funny if you look at the two shipcharts i did how i went from being like a casual callum/milt and callum/marla person to being fully bought into the polycule divorce dream. what can i say ollie bandtrees ur a compelling man. these three need to be getting into the worst divorce this country has ever seen and they need to do it NOW
A BROTP I have with said character:
i once again feel like im just kind of ripping you off, but callum and gingi are an interesting duo that i also think a lot about!!!! i mean just on a base contextual level theyāre meant to be compared and seen as equalsāgingi is the only one who tries to hear callums own words instead of interpreting them from his past actions, and i think that means something!!! i have something planned for my mingus character study to do with those two and iām excited to realize the vision a little bit more, but i wonāt spoil it for the layman reading this >:-) youāll all just need to wait and see what sad ass shit i have plannedā¦
A NOTP I have with said character:
once again just not a big fan of callum/norm. sorry!
A random headcanon:
NOW THIS IS WHERE IāM SCRATCHING MY DAMN HEAD. BECAUSE WHAT ARE MY CALLUM HCSā¦ i think, if youāll let me just kinda spitball off of nothing, callum is really into jazz. like itās something he got into when it was in its hayday and he continues to be an enjoyer of it. used to dance with milt and marla around the office with some upbeat jazz playing. nowadays jazz is the only thing youāll hear in his room, other than the sounds of him tuning his busted radio (they have a separate, functioning radio just out of sight playing jazz). itās something mingus requested in the hopes itād make him remember Something, but post ch3 it just becomes something nice to hear when sheās visiting. i think at times you can see him nod his head along to the beat, in a slow and stilted way. maybe even twitches his finger to the melody. itās something that just feels natural to himāthe ebb and flow of jazz is similar to how he thinks. sporadic and jumping at every opportunity. and i think a small part of him remembers that vigor. remembers his own jazz
General Opinion over said character:
i mean what can be said about callum crown. dude fucking IS the narrative of dialtown. heās baked into every part and for good reason!!!!!! the first time i watched the turnip lore i was like. genuinely flabbergasted because DAMNā¦REALLY? HIS BRAIN GOT YASSED FOR REAL?? but now i just think about him and wail in agony. heās a really interesting character both in the past and present!!!! iām glad dogman is so willing to share tidbits about him bc it fleshes him out all the more
i dont have a callum crown image on my phone so i need everyone to just picture him pregnant with gingi (which is an image that exists griffin made it during a gartic phone its on tumblr IM NOT CRAZY)
#ignorance cloud on#dialtown#THIS ONE WAS A TOUGHIE. THANK YOU#SORRY IF I BASICALLY STOLE UR ANSWERS. WHAT CAN I SAY IM EASILY COMPELLED
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handing you more characters bc your analysis is so delicious .
crimson. the scrunkly. most likely to be cpuk's tumblr sillyman.
Studying this little freak like a bug <3
(cpuk and ncct spoilers)
The thing about Crimson is that narratively, he is, as a villain, a bad coping mechanism or a self-destructive behavior. Barely even a metaphor- thats literally what he is to peppermint in pretty much no uncertain terms, she's parasocially in love with him because he, and the concept of a multiverse, allows her to indulge in the fantasy of a world where she's happy, and indulging unhealthily in fantasy is what actively drives people away from her, making her even lonelier. And she's not the only example of characters whom crimson's relationship to them is defined by them giving in to a character flaw. Chessmaster is the other clear cut example- succumbing to his inferiority complex and giving in to evil for the sake of proving himself are directly interrelated events, and he broke free when he was given kindness and support, a clearer picture of why he's like this (because he was designed to be,) and a vision of something different, something healthier, to be. He tempts people, consciously or not, to act their worst.
Hamburger Helper was a family man. Season one's storytelling is patchier than later seasons, but one can read between the lines, both then and later, to see something of a Mr. Incredible style gloryhound mid-life crisis to inspire his behavior, and his husband putting his foot down and breaking things off wasn't enough to drag him back to sense- especially since his son was on his side, resenting dadondorf for both his more firm parenting and splitting their family, launching into his ongoing emo phase and "trying to summon satan to kill his dad." (Real line from cpuk1. smthn smthn nccts crimson's first host was a dad and hes good with kids and says despite being kind of a monster he wouldn't hurt one. food for thought) But when The Grunk died, the show went on hiatus, and he was left in the broken fizzled aftermath of all that and forced to slowly realize how immature he'd been behaving and what ultimately really mattered to him and defected from Crimson of his own will.
Valentine was a risk taker, all for the drama of the show. Valentine walked directly into explosions just to see if he could survive them. He's a performer and a gentleman and a hero to the people. However, a risk taken in performance is a risk nonetheless and his overconfidence was his downfall. Valentine made a bet. Didn't tell a soul before he did it, other than a crimson possessed hamburger helper, speaking in their minds- hold your breath for the drama! And then he lost. And the deal was real. And so were the consequences. And the show he so loved came crashing to a halt as he was used to kill a man. (I'd also like to note, captain crimson in the nccts is kind of another example of a recreation of val as an image without his input, if im understanding the dream-fakes correctly- bc theyre composed of the current dreamers recollection of them, and Val isnt in the fourth dream. So once again val is being copied over as a biased outsiders image formed from people's perceptions of him, this one more literal and impermanent and largely defined by a very publically known traumatic experience that he really doesnt like to talk about and the person who controlled him in that time, while Quad was originally made to be a sort of exaggerated parody of what he loves and values. fun.)
Larry's... well, I've talked about Larry's problem. He overextends himself, unwilling to burden others intentionally even if they're willing to bear it, and needs to show himself a little self-compassion. And the circumstances of his possession? He functionally agreed to saving Crimson's life, and Crimson repays this by running off with his body right away and refusing to let Larry see his loved ones (for reasons of self-protection, crimson desiring to lie low right now, but still) and Larry's still trying to fix him from the inside. Bro thats nice and very noble and all bc god knows crimson genuinely needs help but you functionally got kidnapped my dude!!!!!! You missed yet another Valentines day after SEVEN missed Valentines days! you're on course to miss a NINTH since the show's gone off air in your absence!!! Your man just wants you to be safe for once!!!!!! He misses you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sidenote ive noticed in terms of teaching the lesson of not overextending your compassion sometimes folks trying to teach it fumble the point by making it so the way its taught is by making the target not 'worthy' of the compassion somehow (tricking the giver of care or help into thinking they need it when they really dont or smthn) as if overextending yourself is a matter of choosing who's morally deserving of help and weeding out the untrustworthy lazy manipulators or some shit rather than You Cannot Help Everyone, its a Logistical Impossibility and By Trying You Will Only Hurt Yourself and Eventually Others as Either Your Loved Ones Worry Themselves Sick To Death Over You as Your Wellbeing Inevitably Declines Or You End Up Lashing Out At Others Because Your Needs Have Gone Uncared For As A Result, Therefore You Literally NEED to be Helped Because You Literally Cannot Bear It All Alone and im glad thats more the kind of vibe set up here. Like. Crimson definitely definitely definitely needs help that much is clear. But Larry aint the fucker to do it. because He's Super Not Okay Either and also, he'd been trying to get Crimson to open up for however long it was between cpuk orange and ncct2 hed been trying and didn't know Funbox's name when Crimson was willing to say that on live tv but Dani spends an hour in a vent with him and he's Explaining His Personal Living Nightmare to her. Larry is not a person hes willing to open up to, probably Specifically Because he is trying and wants to help him! Larry's fuckin. Red Cross Syndrome actively makes Crimson want to clam up! They can be good buds, they certainly seem to enjoy eachothers company well enough, but not in the 'i can unload about my trauma to you' way right now because neither of them are people who think they need or deserve that yet!
Maladaptive coping mechanisms and emotional regulation strats being the domain of a god of treachery makes sense- especially in a show about compassion and healing the way CPUK often is. they don't fix the real problem. Often they make it worse. They make you feel better, stronger, until they don't, they take control of your life, and sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you realize you have a shovel in your hands. But, the thing about them is, they're NOT 'evil,' they're volatile, theyre unhealthy, and they don't come from nowhere. Its the culmination of unaddressed pain. And as with Chartreuse's tragedy, this applies to Crimson as much as it does to those his powers effect- this badboy's chock full of dumb destructive shit he does to feel power and control over and satisfaction with his own life, and that makes itself most apparent in his relationship with Crimsonaut. Now, Crimsonaut lacks much of a firm moral compass- but he's kind, in a snarky long-suffering sort of way. he was created by Dr. Order to venture into the crimson for study. We don't know how that went, but we know the result. Allowing Crimson to hide and recover in his body, lying about being uncontaminated upon his return from meeting him, intentionally hiding and protecting Crimson from discovery until he was strong enough to start taking control of the body from time to time and getting up to his shit again. Crimsonaut is more than capable of verbally standing up to Crimson, he puts his foot down- but he puts his foot down only when Crimson condescends to him, treats him like he's not an equal. Crimson calls him his little buddy- like hes affectionately describing a cat or a small animal or perhaps one of those fucked up lil splatoon fish, and Crimsonaut tells the evil primordial god in his body that he owes him at least the title of friend. Takes some backbone, which he chooses not to use later. He wasn't happy with crimson attempting to destroy the universe, where he lives, but after the fact, their relationship as we see it doesnt seem to have changed at all. Crimsonaut was still willingly playing his snarky human shield. Crimsonaut's friendly with Dani, and no exorcism ever happened. even though he very nearly successfully destroyed a universe, (and got them both put on a fucking Leash by his siblings for weeks after the fact,) he'd rather let him stay. But being separated from Crimson as a result of Crimson's own meddling, getting a nice breather away from him, and Crimson using this break as an opportunity to make a direct attempt to kill him to avoid being put back was the last straw. he was horrible despite when they got along and what he was made for and he couldnt just put up with it anymore, although Prism's next move might have... complicated his feelings about it. Crimson might honestly care about him, but that didn't make him any less of a toxic friend, and for that, Crimsonaut doesnt owe him a continued place in his life, and Crimson lost himself the most earnest, faithful, selflessly motivated friend he seems to have had since he arrived in this universe entirely through his own short-sighted self-destructive inability to deal with the minor restrictions living with Crimsonaut imposes on his life. He cant make himself willingly hand over control to another person enough to adapt to a minor dietary restriction. Absolute control freak. And... well. We know why.
Prism and the Ciblings relationship wasnt... explicitly cast as being abusive in those words before the nccts, though one could easily read between the lines. And what the implications spoke loud and clear already was bad enough. But things are called what they are in the nccts, (not by the cods, who. likely think its... not normal. but maybe normal for gods. Theres not really other examples of godly parenting for them to draw from, after all. But Folk correctly labels Prism as abusive.) and Crimson's status as a favorite target of torment is exposed, and recontextualizes... a lot of things, really. He implies quite straightforwardly that everything he says should be taken with a grain of 'im aware of when Prism's watching and what im willing to say when she is is effected somewhat by that.' His words are inherently a bit deceptive, but not necessarily maliciously- but self-protectively. Every respectable parenting resource: "strict helicopter parenting doesnt teach your child obedience, it teaches your child how to lie to you" prism raising a god of treachery: "haha yeah thats the point :)"
Crimson and Prism's relationship is a pretty realistic example of the effect of the beginning of a cycle of abuse, in the broad sense. A parent, effected by existential stresses they cannot escape, be they monetary, interpersonal, psychological, whatever, lashes out against their children in the process of raising them, simultaneously traumatizing them and modeling toxic behavior to them, which they ultimately mimic because thats how dealing with problems and stress was modeled to them in their formative years, lacking access to or knowledge of more positive outlets for their feelings.
Crimson wants to be nothing like her- but he is, unthinkingly, like her. He hurts people to his own ends, he manipulates the truth, he's controlling, a number of other small things- a sickly smile to reflect prism's vacant yet intense one. He is his mother's son. Godhood of treachery and godhood of stories are... rather similar in concept, really- i don't recall who, but ive heard a certain philosophy of storytelling said as, paraphrasing, 'fiction is lies, falsehood, in service to truth.' he adopts an aesthetic of opposition, blood guts and chocolate cake, without really deconstructing his behavior in context, because changing who he is means making himself more vulnerable to being changed while he's figuring himself out, and Prism's entire modus operandi is changing you without you ever noticing, and he wants to believe through his rebellion he can atleast be fully authentically himself, uninfluenced. But change cannot be staved off forever, and despite what he wanted to believe, he's still stuck. Choosing evil is not an escape, it is another cage. The hopelessness and stagnation of lacking meaningful choice setting in seems to be changing him anyway.
I marked the 'horrible person' square the way i did because normally when one claims a tragic villain 'had no choice' but to commit their actions, its not really an accurate reflection- having reasons and motives to do what you do doesnt change that you chose to do them, if only under duress. But Crimson was... very particularly, literally and specifically being disallowed from having a choice in who he turned out to be under the gaze of a panopticonic and brutal authority that could begin watching him at any time, and what they wanted him to be was evil. He was born to be a villain and groomed into it, lead to evil blindly by a strict parent who's strictness was applied specifically to spawn the rebellion it caused and create a self-demonizing villain. He could've chosen to be better in theory- options were technically there- but he wanted to be a villain because he was raised in such a way that it felt like a meaningful rebellion against Prism's goody two shoes persona, but it wasnt, and he wouldnt have been allowed to pick the better options anyway- judging from things like Prism hitting the undo button on TOJ giving her a shiner, anything deviating too far from the plan can just be undone anyway, with none but her (and the audience,) maintaining memory of it, although it's marks are left regardless. little retcons. (Prism saying she felt guilt for what she 'had to do' to Crimson is... a bit supported by this- if she never wanted him to ever have nice things she could very easily take All of it away. She could have made that hug never happen. But she did let him have that. Doesnt make the constant cruelty better but yknow. Abusers are weird and complicated people sometimes and often they believe what they're doing is for the best for the child even if it really really isnt)
While we all came to agreement that Doctor Order's statement, about how if someone is changed by prism by unnoticed inches it will become miles over time, did not apply to her... I think it applies to Crimson, although not fully in the magical sense she meant, but the metaphorical. I think once upon a time there mightve been a better nature and hope in crimson which was slowly, steadily, and thoroughly corroded for a long, long time. Started CPUK Reboot in my rewatch recently, and before it became Team Calibur, Team Crimson's uniting factor wasnt even evil- it was passion. Bizarre, considering how inhuman Crimson was played in the first season. Kindness is what comes naturally to people. All that doesnt have to matter, not in the least, to the people he's hurt- but free will has always been more theoretical for him than the average person with Prism's eyes trained on him, and morality greys and greys as one gets into the weeds of why people are the way they are and when you remove or bar off meaningful and conscious choice from the equation. It is, sometimes, a luxury to have the option to be a good person, even if you aren't aware those options have been closed off to you. People get trapped, often without even knowing, in doing things that contradict what they believe or understand to be right to survive and enjoy any kind of happiness or fulfillment every day. smthn smthn no ethical consumption under capitalism for a familiar example. Crimson just raises So Many Fun Moral Philosophy Questions. God i love 'born to be evil, are so much more than that' type characters theyre always so human and fun to get pretentious about. can you tell my family's ex-catholic /j
Judging by his resentful tone with things like lovey dovey romance and Prism's 'barney the dinosaur' demeanor, i think its pretty fair to assume Prism's faux-sugary demeanor has made him thoroughly distrustful or disdainful of anything too 'sweet' at the outset. Only pain and grit is 'real', anything too sweet is a facade waiting to stab you in the back. Despite his two-faced smarmy deceitfulness being a defining trait, being Authentically Himself seems to concern Crimson a great deal, and for obvious reason. That being said i think theres also a part of crimson that wishes he could win over her approval, judging from his conversation with captain crimson- where i think he's the only one of the cods to actually briefly label prism as their mom directly, if only in a snarky derisive way, (usually they fall in line with her description of herself as their babysitter, but i mean. When your parent is a primordial cloud of feelings and ideas and not a person that can raise you but their emissary raises you in their place idc thats functionally a Mom) and implies Crimson sticks around here because of Prism in a way that makes it sound like it was a deliberate choice- it'd certainly explain why he actually tried to be good at the job he Knew he had (until attempting to self-sabotage to prove a point,) and making a point out of cobalt fucking up at his, despite his typically impulsive and self-indulgent personality. not really realizing he never could have her approval until his godhood of treachery was revealed to him, a title which means he is inescapably evil to her. I think Crimson wants very badly to be liked and approved of by Somebody, and in failing to get that from Prism has... latched on to the audience a bit, as another extension of his progenitor Spectrum. Crimson sees chat! He can see everything we say about him! He probably has thoughts and feelings on a good lot of it! He started using the nickname Crimbo because of us, and throughout orange's intros iirc he seemed more than a little disappointed by the reception to him as host not just from the competitors but from us in chat booing him (in a heelish kind of way, largely. God knows we do love crimson even if he sucks <3) and for god's sake the nelson warping is activated by us complimenting him. hes So Desperate for us to like him! Not unlike prism was!
i think the treachery reveal ultimately came as the second hit of a three hit combo of crimson's held beliefs being challenged. I think Crimson percieved Cobalt as kinda... Prism's lapdog to some extent? always trying to be the 'responsible' one, managing his and Chartreuse's behavior on Prism's advice while botching his own job. Cobalt showed his care for Crimson as his little brother through making deals to keep him alive, but considering he spends every other moment they're together (understandably, crimson is not a good person and cobalt has a very firm and deliberately constructed punitive moral compass to keep from losing sight of his responsibilities,) being critical of him on moral grounds it makes their relationship feel much more... transactional, even if Cobalt doesnt mean things that way. Like he's only making these deals to protect him because Someone needs to do his job. And then a disguised Crimson, after his apparent death, walks in on Cobalt discussing with Chartreuse that they need to do something about Prism, that this has all gone on too long. He cares, regardless of their stupid jobs, he just wants Crimson to be Less of an Asshole. And then, after the treachery reveal, there's chartreuse giving up her godhood.
Crimson's been confused by and rudely dismissive of his sister's relationship ever since he found out- particularly so after learning what she's been doing to maintain it. She's weakening herself, hurting herself, making herself vulnerable, to maintain a relationship with some mortal who, even if she could keep up what she was doing, not telling him anything and enduring the pain of keeping his fracture in the timeline sustained, would have sixty maybe seventy years at best to be with her and then she'd be back to the usual. They are incomprehensibly old, Folk is a blip in the grand scheme. She'll get over him, she should stop whining about it, its spilt milk. And then she gave up her godhood entirely. This mortal was worth facing not just pain, but the inevitability of death to her, worth facing the absolute vulnerability of mortal life. Crimson still can't understand it... he still doesnt agree with her decision and he doesnt particularly like Folk that much. but he can understand this is Really Fucking Important to her. and he cares about her enough to respect it and want to be a part of it as much as he can.
Ultimately, what i think Crimson really needs is to learn is how to trust someone enough to willingly hand over power and control to someone else without it being the end of the world and that change can be for the better, and him respecting the agency of other people even if he intensely disagrees with their decisions is an important step in the right direction on that front.
#anyway. *points gun at you* listen to fly in my room by kerrin connolly and think about dani and crimson. Now#this is long to a frankly embarrassing extent#mostly because i went on several partly related tangents or overexplained the background observations that led to my conclusions. lol
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Guys guys guys
The three lives thing can't be just about any deaths that are plot related, not even dramatic ones. The canon deaths have to actually have a plot function as a loss.
(ftr I've seen multiple people suggest all of these, I'm not just vagueblogging about anyone specific. Also I havenāt actually seen the clip of Wilbur talking about it yet, I just saw the original reddit post.)
So, Tommy and Techno fist fighting in the pit is plot relevant and dramatic but Tommy dying just signified him losing the fight. That can't be a canon death, that makes no sense. It was clearly just Techno knocking Tommy out. He didn't literally murder the kid with his fists in a fight that was mainly for letting Tommy let out some steam, Niki and Tubbo at least would have had a bigger reaction if so because that would just be super fucked up.
It also wouldnāt make sense for Techno to do since he was trying to stop the in-fighting (I say ātryingā because he clearly doesnāt actually know how to do that like a reasonable person.)
Wilbur getting shot while escaping L'Manberg after being exiled happened during a dramatic, plot heavy scene but him dying wasn't plot relevant and it sure as hell wasn't dramatic enough in itself to count as a canon death. The scene was dramatic, Wilbur getting shot was dramatic, but the actual death was just treated as a temporary setback, not an actual loss of life. IIRC nobody even said Wilbur died, nobody reacted like he'd died. I'd interpret it as him getting shot and being badly wounded, which actually works really well in the scene, especially how he ends up hiding in a hole waiting for Tommy to come pick him up. That makes sense if heās too weak from bloodloss to walk by himself.
I also think you could easily see the scene where the walls are torn down happening the next day when he's recovered a bit so he's able to walk back to L'Manberg on his own.
(This is getting long, time for a cut)
I'd even argue that Tubbo was the only one to die at the festival, everybody else was only wounded. Potentially horrifically so but still not dead. Schlatt and Quackity got hit by the rockets and maybe Techno even thought he'd killed them but I don't think he did, they didn't react to their deaths almost at all. Imagine if he'd actually killed them, you'd think they'd at least be like what the fuck Technoblade. Also Niki got shot in the crossfire too but nobody said anything about Techno killing her. I think she got hit but survived. I think the people in the audience who died were all actually just incapacitated. Otherwise there should have been consequences, people should be actually angry or grieving the fact that theyāre a step closer to death.
You can tell that Tubbo's death was canonical by how it was taken so seriously, much more so than anyone else's deaths.
Similarly Tommy's death in the duel against Dream: Wilbur said to him before the duel that independence wasn't worth him losing his life or something along those lines: that made his death actually impactful, the narrative weight put on his decision to challenge Dream.
I don't know what the other canon deaths would be, besides Wilbur and Jschlatt's permanent ones obv. Eret's betrayal is a good candidate, although I don't think it necessarily has to be since the betrayal itself was the focus of the scene and was impactful enough as is even if all that happened was that they were beaten up and had their gear taken. Techno assassinating Tubbo after the revolution also could be one but doesn't necessarily have to be, it was definitely a JFK moment but the scene would still work if it was just a Reagan moment (bc Reagan was shot and severely injured but survived, you know). In any case it can't be both since Tubbo would be properly dead. (It could also be neither.)
My point is, it's kind of driving me nuts seeing people just count everything plot related or dramatic as a canon death. You can have dramatic moments where nobody dies. In fact that could even make them more dramatic in some cases:
Imagine a wounded Wilbur leaning on Tommy as they struggle through the wilderness. Imagine Tommy lying on the ground, gasping, his vision still blurry from the punches as Techno calmly climbs out of the pit to talk to a satisfied Wilbur. How would either of those scenes be more dramatic if they'd died and respawned instead? They'd just lose a sense of groundedness in my opinion. And it would just be unsatisfying because nobody reacted to the fact that a character just lost a life.
The point of canon deaths, as far as I see it, is to give an in-universe reason for why some deaths have weight to them. It gives death consequences. But for that to work, the canon deaths have to be seen by the characters as deaths, as something being irreparably lost. And it has to be rare to keep its effect.
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Hi I know you're probably tired of talking about this so feel free to ignore this.
While I understand why the artist may have felt like their design was stolen and their feelings towards it are definitely valid. There are some things I wanted to point out because I find it hard to believe the narrative thats being pushed.
From a business/marketing perspective, it wouldn't make sense for the team in charge to view any fanart on social media. Not only would this give way to unconsciously copying someones work(for a lack of a better word, an implicit bias you can say), kind of like when writing a paper and wanting to avoid reading someone else's bc you can sometimes unconsciously copy a sentence or idea, but I don't see the point of having a design team being active on social media, because as a business functions, that team would be the social media team to monitor fan interactions for the purpose of keeping engagement not for merch. The reason a lot of big companies rip off smaller artists is bc they wouldn't face huge consequences. Big corporations have money and lawyers, and while I don't doubt Dream has lawyer contacts when necessary, i doubt he has them on payroll and would be able to fight a claim such as plagiarism, especially because it seems like the money he gets goes back in to the company itself and it takes sometime years for a business to ever see profit.
Not only that, but the way the artist drew their design was clearly meant to be for a retro style, as she states in her tweet. Whereas the dream design went for marketing it towards children, which again is clear. The fonts are not similar at all, both designed towards the theme they are intended for. And the colors are honestly common palettes for children. Like people have pointed out, it's something you would have worn as a child yourself, which again emphasizes what the intentions of the design are. I can keep going as to why I feel like they are different enough. But all in all, when you design something with as much simplicity as both designs have, there are going to be others out there who are bound to create something similar. There are only so many combinations and styles that can be done with something as simple as fonts and colors. Idk i just hate how many conclusions are being jumped to
I'm such a centrist here I need to buy a grill.
I think calling it blatant theft feels like an oversimplification of the situation to me. Because you're right, there are some key differences and outside sources from which some of the similarities may have been drawn. Do I think that's what happened? I don't know. I'm on the fence. But it's for sure not impossible like some people are making it out to be. I also agree with what you said about big corporations versus Dream's business - while Dream isn't hurting for money, they're not the kind of massive industry that can be careless.
Regardless of whether his team did or didn't do it and his responsibility aside, I stand by my initial statement that Dream didn't know. And I think this not because I know that he's a wonderful, moral person - I like him, yeah, but I don't know him like that - rather, it just doesn't make sense considering all of his past controversies. Dream knows how his fanbase is and how closely his every move is tracked; he was and is never going to get away with stealing ideas, much less art, much less art from a community artist, much much less art from a community artist that he apparently follows on his fanart acc. He's just not that stupid. Even if you hate him, I think that makes sense from a marketing perspective - he's gotta keep his fans supportive and placated. (I have a more positive opinion on him than this, to be clear - I'm just pointing it out for argument's sake.)
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Hello Pine! I hope things are going well. If you're still accepting asks for the Fanfic Ask game, I have a few. C,D,K,S,T and X? You don't have to answer them all if you don't want to.
Thank you for the ask Shy! And I never feel bad about answering these, so don't worry! They're super fun~
C: what character do you identify with most?
Hmm. I identify in part with many characters, but one sole character who I identify with the most just doesn't exist, I'm afraid. I identify with Mammon for his simultaneous stress reliever role in his family and how ostracized he is. I identify with Rei, from 3 Gatsu No Lion (March Comes In Like A Lion) for his quiet participation in his own life, trudging in an endless march with no reprieve in sight and pain wherever he turns. I identify with Natsume from Natsume Yuujinchoh for his need to hide the ugly, misunderstood parts of his life, even from those who live that very same life and seek to help him, or seek to drag him along the path they walked.
D: is there a song or Playlist you associate with a fic?
I dont listen to worded music when I write š¤£ I usually watch TV or have a lofi beat in the background. I'd say Monochrome Kiss is the closest I've come to listening to a song while writing, and it's a banger.
The song:
The fic it helped me write:
K: what's the angstiest plot you've ever come up with?
Aha, so many. One I currently have the first two chapters written for and I'm just procrastinating on publishing is a dark one for sure. It's a/b/o bc that's just how I roll, and the protagonist has to reckon with the fact that he is constantly at the mercy of Alphas more powerful than him, not because of his own gender as an Omega, but because of the shackles put on him as a consequence of his desire to help people. He needs to abandon his ideals of self sufficiency that arose from the abuse he endured trying to save his kingdom, and rely on the people that society has demanded he rely on from the beginning. It's like?? A double full-circle, I guess. He starts out wanting to help people and being able to ask for help to do so, while also being pressured to give up his ideals and become the good mate he's supposedly supposed to be. In the middle of this circle, he gets brutally beaten into giving up his ideals and is forced to live with the person who ripped this part of his soul out, but as time goes on he begins to sympathize with that man. The man eventually let's him go, but not before he has thoroughly given up his dreams of helping people, deeming them stupid and childish, and has lost all capability to ask for help when he is in pain or danger. Hundreds of years pass, the second love interest (first one being the man that slaughtered his dreams) comes into play, and he regresses/moves forward to relying on the people who hurt him for the power they lend to him out of good will to help people once more. He cannot help people without relying on these people, he cannot rely on these people without crushing his own mental structure again to fit into this mold. He snaps because of this, losing all ability to be upset at his situation, and happily indulges in the privileges of the people he is submissive to. It's a happy ending by all other means, but the journey to get there was long and brutal. Did he win? Depends on how you look at it.
(It should be up on ao3 after Kakashi Bingo and Whoregumi)
Then there's my personal story, a novel I'm writing in hopes of getting it done for NaNoWriMo. My MC, Clyde, has severe anxiety and paranoia. He cannot function without using his husband, Kai, as a crutch- but Kai dies in a freak accident. Clyde, unable to function in the city he currently lives in without Kai, goes back to his home country. The home country isn't very religious in general, as their religion does not really call for much worship and such outside of simply knowing the legends, but Clyde comes across one of their religious symbols: a suit of armor known to drive it's wearer insane yet gifting great power in return. The more unstable your mental state when first putting it on, the more power you gain in return. It immediately latches onto Clyde, and the other suits of armor deem him too dangerous to live. It's really just a chase story. Clyde is being chased by his husband's corrupted spirit, the other suits of armor, and the looming mind break. He wants to live... but he doesn't. Not without his husband, not like this, but he has no other choice because whether these spirits chasing him are the product of the death of his husband or a prank on Kai's part, Clyde can't tell. All he knows is Kai didn't die, and Clyde can't die until he finds him and gives him a solid punch to the face for doing this. It's dark on the sole premise that Clyde's mental space goes down, down, down, and it doesn't really get better till the finale. If you can call it better.
S: any fandom tropes you can't resist?
~SO breaks your heart so you fuck their dad~
T: any fandom tropes you can't stand?
Taking characters wronged by the narrative and excusing their behavior by imagining a world where they didn't rebel. Take Sasuke for example: his entire clan was ostracized, the jobs they could get regulated to police work only so the village would hate them, their children stolen and brainwashed into the military, their precious eyes ripped out to further the village heads power, and then the entire clan was genocided by one brainwashed teenager from their own clan, whom they refused to fight against due to his age and the fact he was from the clan. These are all reasons for the sole survivor, Sasuke, to be upset, yes?
Yet time and time again I see AUs where people "fix it" by "making Sasuke a good guy" and having him live peacefully in the village that killed his people. Like. Fuck off. Sasuke, despite what shitlords like to say, is not the antagonist of Naruto. He is a companion to Naruto, the one that says "you have been wronged. Be angry. Don't hate me, join me."
But kishi doesn't know how to write for shit so that plot was lost very early on.
X: a character you enjoy making suffer:
Uh, let's see
Mammon, Lucifer, Xie Lian, Kaeya, Toji, Kakashi, and Natsume.
Thank you again for the asks Shy!
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rambly inception thoughts p.2
this has been kicked off, specifically, by disliking that i failed to include yusuf in this post but thereās already so much going on there re: exact limits/mechanics of imagination in dreams, how to call down projections, moral relativism, crack chara psych, and speculating on the future of ariās career--and i explained most of it poorly anyway so itās probably for the best!
to start with, iāve always imagined that thereās a huge variety in the caliber/class of chemist u can hire in dreamshare. the title probably applies even to people whose capability starts and stops at sourcing base product for somnacin and/or the finished drug. the next level up can maybe mix up different kinds to standard specifications. idk how much education/training uād need to be able to do this, bc i v much do not chemistry, but iād bet thereās a lot of variety in pplās qualifications in this category, too. a standard formula might affect different ppl slightly differently, like any psychotropic drug (is that even the most sensible analogy to real-world science? idk and i donāt want to risk hours of ultimately fruitless wikipedia spiralling), but in the same vein, the variances will all probably fall within a reasonable range of the same functionality. without, like, some sort of neuro degree, probably, the most fine-tuning a chemist could do is optimize doses/known variants of the drug through trial and error in preparation for a job.
our man yusuf definitely has a high-level neuro degree
so, just like the rest of the team, yusuf is obviously a total powerhouse in his field. like i said, it must take sophisticated knowledge of brain chemistry in order to do what he did on the fischer job, as well as the same mad genius as the rest of them. (as an aside, can i just say how utterly delightful a team dynamic is āgroup of geniuses who surround themselves with enough people who are the same kind of batshit to normalize itā? iām weak) and idk how someone gets famous in like neurochem but yusuf is so brilliant he was probably p well known. js imagine the comedic potential of whatever rising-star chemist meeting yusuf and js going dr. ____?! who published those completely revolutionary but completely balls-to-the-wall studies on x and then after throwing the discipline into an uproar either a) dropped off the face of the earth and is now known as smth of an urban legend/cryptid in the community or b) still corresponds w experts in the field but now about the wildest shit and ppl kind of have to mythologize/not think too hard abt the dude who walks in pplās heads in order not to risk js breaking everything
so yusuf knows his shit and his initial assertion that 3 levels is impossible can be trusted to carry a lot of weight. which means the fact that he proceeded to do it more than secures his place in the cast of demonstrable prodigies
now, bc this is ostensibly a continuation of a post thatās loosely focused on charasā moralities, letās look at the 2 parts of the movie where we most directly confront yusufās: his dream den and hiding the sedation from the team. iām going with the assumption that any legitimate/legal research and application of dreamshare has been discontinued.
come yell at me for over oversimplifying, but that makes the question of the dream den seem p straight-forward. yusuf faced giving up dreamshare research (or came onto the scene after it was already illegal, which could make for some rly interesting stories abt how he wouldāve found out abt it) and couldnāt, so he had to find a way to continue on his own. and since it would be in rly bad faith to assume he doesnāt have the full consent of all his test subjects, thatās js that. (iām not going to argue abt the difference b/w ethics and morals, and iām laughably unqualified to discuss the ethics of human experimentation anyway so moving on)
hiding the fact that the team was sedated was a major plot point and is discussed w according frequency, so iām sure most ppl have their own opinions abt what this says abt the parties involved. iāll readily admit that my view is heavily colored by the fact that i js plain like yusuf. heās a likeable guy. (iāll try not to go off on a tangent, but i know that my reasons for disliking cobb are a little unfair; itās more about narrative structure than any of his personal failings. the fact is i have a weakness for hypercompetence, and cobb is presented as someone who used to be the best, but is no longer reliable. he shows flashes of his old brilliance running the mr. charles gambit successfully and improvising capitalizing on the appearance of fisherās browning projection on l2, but heās desperate enough to be untrustworthy and further, heās untrustworthy in a way that is eminently predictable by the audience. we know from the get-go that his shade is gonna sabotage something, and itās hard not to blame him for that. we also know from the get-go that heās desperate enough to drag other ppl into a foolās mission, and that heās hiding something dangerous from arthur, who by all appearances should be the person cobb can trust, and the person to whom itās most important to know that kind of shit. iām not gonna pretend i anticipated that big twist in the parking garage on l1, but it makes a ton of sense in retrospect and all this makes it easy to see why cobb is so widely mistrusted/disliked by the fandom. and i went off on a tangent, whoops.)
so picking back up at yusuf is a likeable guy--he seems p friendly and easy-going and i thoroughly enjoyed every scene of him on l1. iām gonna say a lot of his moral considerations come in the form of deciding what is or isnāt his responsibility. mbe he avoided or suitably resolved the thorny ethical question of human experimentation in the same way i kind of did: by saying that the participants agreed to it on their own and leaving it there. this kind of reasoning is how he wouldāve let cobb take responsibility for sedating and then informing the team. itās also probably how he decided to cue the kick early on l1 and make it everyone elseās problem. which i do think was the right decision! it would be absurd to suggest that this highly intelligent manās patterns of reasoning are always questionable. but i do see a pattern.
as for the advice heād give ari, i think a lot of this relates back to my mention in the earlier post of whether or not she could let an institution/legislation dictate her ethics to her. iāve since decided that itās simpler to assume the institutions are all outside the law, though, so iām not going to think abt that anymore unless directly prompted. one thing we do know abt ari, though, in contrast to my suppositions abt yusuf, is that she has a v strong sense of responsibility. she took it upon herself to manage cobb, and she took it upon herself to save the job, fisher, saito, and cobb when it looked like everything had been ruined. thinking abt it now, this makes for further interesting contrast w arthur, whose sense of responsibility seems to revolve around personal loyalty, eames, whose sense of responsibility is acutely pragmatic, and saito, whose sense of responsibility is on the grand scale of stopping a monopoly (suitably ironic).
again, idk if iāve rly made any kind of point, and now i want to go back and build elaborate hierarchies of skill in each job description (architect, extractor, etc) like i kind of did for chemists but, well. if u made it this far bless u, i hope u have a wonderful day. vote
#inception#yusuf#ariadne#arthur#eames#saito#if u haven't check out p.1 cus there's a lot there that i never rly expanded but am figuring out how to#running my mouth#yes absolutely#dom cobb
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Heyo if u wanna talk abt ur ocs can u tell me abt the newest ones (or at least the ones that r new to me which is all of them on the last pic of ur oc post I think?) :3
omggg thank you for asking :3 this is long sorry i havenāt organised my thoughts about them yet ahjfklsa but here we go
before i can talk abt rain n evie i have to explain the universe with kes, amaya, and rio. im sure you remember them :3 but umm you said they were based on pacific rim and i donāt know anything abt pacific rim fhjlafnj sooo i made a bunch of stuff up. soooo thereās a parallel universe/alternate dimension full of people and like, monsters. the alt. universe people r testing ways to break into our dimension and open the door permanently so that both dimensions are their domain. the... city...? that the story is set in is like a capitalistsās dream, split harshly between rich and poor with no middle class. the poor faction of the city that will be named soon is the one responsible for keeping the other-dimension-ers out of our dimension, most if not all of them are responsible in some way for keeping their area safe from those tears in the ozone layer. they in return are given technology, money, and supplies from the rich faction. those guys do next to nothing, they operate like any other city where everyone has jobs and pays their dues to the government. they are very strict about who they let into the city; they donāt want outsiders to know about their dimension problem lest they stop the warriors from doing their jobs or do something to make the tear bigger etc etc. they also donāt want poor people in the city, even if theyāre responsible for everyoneās safety. Iām thinking of making the story a really obvious allegory similar to older-fashioned dystopian novels like animal farm and brave new world because iām obsessed with those in concept. so i think supporting characters will be one-dimensional caricatures of types of people in society, and only the MCs will have nuance. this also makes it easier for me to write side characters ;3
so kestrel and amaya are siblings mostly born and raised into monster-fighting. you know when thereās a factory or whatever in town that most people in that city work at? thereās one of those but itās like... a firehouse for monster fighting. they mostly live and sleep there, theyāre fed and clothed here for free so long as they fight and theyāre both content with that. Iām not sure what happened to their parents yet but theyāre probably dead. not everyoneās parents are dead, some people have families that they live with at the... compound, these two are just tragic and whatnot. families are encouraged to fight together in duos or trios so that loyalty makes them fight smarter and harder to protect each other. when theyāre not at the compound, like if they have shifts off or whatever, they live in an abandoned subway station and steal power from the government whoās unaware that that track is unused š
so as far as them as individuals, i kept the planets that u based them off of :3 kestrel is based off mars and mars is the planet of action, energy, motivation, temper. kestrel is moody and temperamental, but their choices are never made without careful consideration. theyāre a quick thinker and that makes them confident, so they never back down from a challenge. they have a hard time masking their emotions and itās easy to see whatās going on in their head. theyāre hard to embarrass, though, and theyāre very confident in most of their assertions. theyāre impatient and crabby, but they arenāt at all shy.
amaya is based off venus, so sheās more emotionally rounded than her sibling and more interested in the poetry of life. sheās very expressive and polite, and she has a thing abt maintaining her image. sheās a bit materialistic and self-centred, focused on her looks and her space, but sheās realistic in her material n sensual desires because al things considered she lives in a subway station. she knows what to expect from life, or at least she thinks she does, and is just as confident in her own assertions as kestrel. sheās stubborn and argumentative for that reason, but her confidence makes her a natural leader and people flock to her for advice and assistance. she loves this.
and adrion, based off earth, comes into their lives later. rio used to live on the rich side of town until a second dimension creature escapes the notice of the warriors (i swear they wonāt actually be called āwarriorsā forever š) and destroys his part of the city. his family is alright, but the destruction makes him feel like he could do a better job than whoeverās currently there. he leaves his family to join up with the. the compound, and when asked to find a partner to fight with, chooses amaya and kestrel because theyāre a top-of-their-class team who are always talking about how things could be better. at first, they donāt want him bc theyāre lone wolves and they do not like to be told what to do. but heās a tough fighter and heās got the motivation to be good, so they let him stay on the team. as far as personality, rio is really chill and understanding, often willing to let other peopleās faults slide. as long as heās allowed to do what he wants to do, other people can have their way. heās cheerier than the other two but heās quieter and more in-the-background. his strong will makes him sensitive and he refuses to change his mind often because heās quite naive and gullible, making him easy to trick and take advantage of which makes him insecure. this makes him prone to snapping when people put pressure on him.
now for rain and evie. i originally created them as prototypes for their own narrative but the story seemed really similar to my other stuff so i scrapped it BUT i thought the characters themselves worked in this story instead so i kept them :3. rain and evie are brothers who were initially raised in a fighting ring. they live on the poor side of town but they never worked for the compound. they make a living by gladiator fighting, people pay to come in and bet on them and obviously theyāre paid for winning fights. rain is an extremely adept fighter and usually manages to beat opponents with brute strength. evie is smaller and less physical and usually fights by using the opponentās strength against them. theyāre simultaneously popular and unpopular in their neighbourhood as theyāre like. cool for being good in the ring but theyāre really weird otherwise. theyāre aggressive, angry and irrational, they act like theyāre always in the ring. rain is more sociable and capable than evie, who tends to be reactive and angry. he doesnāt want to be here, but rain is more content in his abilities, so he handles mostly everything so that evie doesnāt have to be responsible for anything. they end up moving on from the ring after evie takes on an opponent that rain tried to tell everyone that he could never beat. evie takes a violent blow to the head that leaves him comatose, and rain spends a huge chunk of money for a piece of technology that replaces the damaged areas of evieās head and functions in its place. no one tells rain, though, that the thing he put in evieās head is technology from the other dimension. after the two leave the ring, they decide to make themselves useful and fight the monsters that forced them into this life in the first place.
personality-wise, rain is a laid-back, go-with-the-flow kind of guy. he likes to let things take their course and he isnāt much concerned with proceedings outside of himself and evie. he purposefully denies himself negative emotion and usually tries to fake that everything is good all the time. despite this, heās emotional and reactive and extremely defensive. he doesnāt like to be challenged or made unhappy and in his dream world he and evie are always just hanging out doing what they want and not having to answer to anyone. people often find him charming bc heās able to finagle most situations into him getting his way, heās exceptional with people but he doesnāt like them.
evie is more sullen and droopy. he almost always lets rain do all the talking and he usually appears unconcerned with most goings-on because heās letting rain evaluate the situation. heās usually inside his own head, daydreaming or fussing. most of his interactions with others are verbal or physical fights bc heās unsure how to manage himself without rain around and is often willing to fight for whatever he thinks rain would want. heās independent outside of that, doesnāt like to be told what to do or how to act. not even rain can calm him down when heās on his soapbox because he truly believes that if he had to grow up a fighting dog he should be allowed to do whatever the fuck he wants. in downtime heās usually a little bit more uppity than rain but still similarly laid-back and willing to act like things are okay.
the five of these characters r in the same universe and they go on missions together often, though kes and amaya donāt really get along with rain and evie because theyāre all so stubborn.
next are niko and andre, who i got from sammy! we got urban fantasy going on here, and iām thinking of setting it in like. the mid 1800-s. iām feeling spicy. umm so i think the key thing about this universe is that āhuntersā are a species of humanoid monster. this world is spinning with vampires, werewolves, faeries, demons, etc. pretending to be human in order to survive, and hunters are a mimic species that look human but just... arenāt. they have an insatiable desire to hunt and kill (used to be for food but humans make food more easily accessible), but killing humans makes them vulnerable to being found out. killing other monsters is the perfect substitute, plus humans praise them for it. theyāre onto each other but they canāt make scenes in human society so they have to dance around each other to do all of their killing in secret.
andre is a hunter living in the shadow of his older sister, angel. sheās a better, more ruthless hunter than he is, with stronger instincts and a greater prey drive. sheās popular with people in town and generally just more charismatic. he really wants to be like her, but heās klutzy and insecure and his instincts are poor cuz he overthinks them. one day he comes across niko in a bar and, perceiving him to be human bc he has 0 instincts, they get their flirt on. until niko says something that makes andre realise heās a vampire. embarrassed and ashamed of his attraction, andre tries to turn his feeling of betrayal into murderous instinct, and he can turn that anger into his first solo kill. niko keeps chasing after andre trying to catch his non-murderous attention because he actually really likes him and doesnāt want to let what they are get in their way.
personality wise, niko is a noisy little wisecracker who likes to be popular. heās a genuinely nice guy and is famous wherever he goes for being wise and helpful. heās usually pretty optimistic and very charming, especially in bigger crowds where he can fit in. he can be purposefully oblivious and is very good at disguising his feelings and intentions. heās witty and sarcastic, often masking negativity for the sake of keeping it light.
andre is a straightforward intellectual type who likes to work and create and achieve. heās intelligent and steadfast and always strives to do his best (which is why being terrible at hunting is upsetting for him). making achievements kind of replaces his understanding of himself, and not being good at things really digs at his self-worth. heās not much of a people person but heās not really shy, either. heās polite and good-natured, though his feelings are quite fragile.
next generation, same universe, next is honour (whose name HAS to be spelled with the u), journey, and solace. resident throuple. honour and solace are hunters, and journey is human. honour was raised in a big home with lots of hunters under the iron fist of like, the mean nursemaid from annie. they hunt monsters as an organised group, but its a violent institution that doesnāt believe in autonomy nor the worth of human lives. humans exist as something to blend into while they exterminate all other monsters. honour stops believing this when she gets older, mostly due to meeting journey. she assumes journey is just going to be vapid and goofy bc heās a human, but he ends up being a really cool dude whoās just as in-depth as her and she begins to realise how terrible the lessons she was raised on are.
journeyās family were aware that they were often surrounded by monsters and as such were very protective of him and his siblings. journey never gets to go out and do things, and being stuck in the stuffy comfort of his home is not what he wants to do with his life when he knows there are monsters out there. when he and honour hit it off, they decide to run away together, deciding to shed their upbringings entirely by changing their names to the things they want most.
i set this in the 1800s JUST so that i could have honour and journey use the train to run away. not nice public transit trains, i mean they are riding the dirty rusty rails to seek a better life. they intend to ride a long time to make sure that theyāre never recognised. on one of the trains they catch to head north, they come across solace, helping him onto the train as he got there a split second too late to catch it. despite his initial gratitude, solace is unpleasant to ride with. turns out heās been on the run for most of his life and is just trying to find a place to stay where no one will care that heās a hunter. in human-only societies hunters are known as mimics and are heavily discriminated against if youāre suspected of being one and straight up killed if you are. after living an uncomfortable life and seeing his father killed, solace decides to go from town to town until he finds a place thatās mostly hunters. when honour reveals theyāre looking for the same thing, solace decides to go with them. heās hesitant to give up his name because it was given to him by his parents, but ultimately he wants to leave that life behind and embody comfort and. yk. solace.
havenāt quite figured these three out personality-wise bc i only finished their designs and names in time for posting the art, rip
and lastly my warriors ocs! I decided to make regular fanclans as opposed to using my existing ocs in an au mostly because i didnāt wanna add in random npcs (as it were) to fill the nursery and elderās den even tho those r important to clan life. so, i made separate ocs, they live in the arctic! summitclan in the mountains, tundraclan in the plains, and glacierclan by the. glacier. the story so far is a murder mystery, cats of all clans are being killed and going missing and no one knows why. while most warriors assume thereās a bear or fox hanging around the territories, the apprentices saw something while they were hanging out that made them decide to investigate deeper...
our mc is snowpaw, a repurposed rp oc fjdkfjld;af. heās a summitclan cat and heās known to be strange and standoffish. he seems cold and apathetic about almost everything and itās hard to see what he enjoys and dislikes. his secretiveness makes it easy for him to investigate the murders, no one ever questions where snowpaw is going or what heās doing. with his friends and family snowpaw is a little more jovial, he has very dry humour and is also always trying to help
crowpaw is a tundraclan cat. heās stuck up and big-mouthed, very arrogant little know it all. donāt ever tell him that, though, bc heās very sensitive and he will cry. he likes to be seen as the best at everything so he dedicates excess time to learning and is actually a very curious and adventurous cat underneath.
swiftpaw is a glacierclan cat. heās very mature and is often rumoured to be a great deputy choice when heās old enough. heās calm and level-headed, a quick-thinking problem solver with a bit of a superiority complex but not one that anyone in his life would be aware of bc heās so darn polite. the warrior code is important to him and so are rules of daily clan life that reduce conflict in any way.
teapaw is also a glacierclan cat. she, like snowpaw, is a little bit quiet and secretive, the kind of person (..?) that kinda lurks in the back of important things going on rather than offering her voice. sheās a healerās apprentice and takes a lot of pride in being effective and efficient with all her duties. sheās curious and observant, and shes good friends with her clanās seer, deadhawk (i split the medicine cat position into two for these clans, healers do doctor stuff, seers talk to starclan), so she tends to be up to date w what starclan says, which helps her and her friends w their mystery.
and finally, breezepaw! heās a summitclan cat and snowpawās bff. heās kinda clueless and distractable, very much a follower personality as he likes others to decide whatās important for him to do. heās a quiet cat, but heās not afraid to speak his mind when the time comes. kinda a goofy jokester dude, but he knows how to read a room and keep quiet when he doesnāt know what to contribute and jokes wonāt help. he likes snowpaw because snowpawās always confident in what heās doing and never clowns on breezepaw for not knowing wtf is going on
#this took me so long to type out all the way jfdkslfjd sorry abt that#maybe its been a week and a half who are you to judge#anyway thankie again for asking it was great to tupe out stuff abt them for the first time :D#type* -_-#oc ask#edit: ive just decided that hunters feed off life energy but only as it escapes#that's what drives their desire to kill
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what is your opinion on Jordan?
i think heās a compelling villain. i think neil jackson does a good job at playing him and despite the slight sympathy touches thrown in to make him feel like a real person and give him motive, heās still, without a doubt, a morally bad and evil character.
my main issue with him is the immigrant narrative that has NOT been subtle. (same w the american dream being a wagon for supervillain activity) because thereās already SO much anti-immigrant sentient rn, ESPECIALLY in the us, that seeing immigrants demonised is just... tired. iām tired of it. having immigrants be the proprietors of such a white supremacist-esque narrative is scapegoat-ish for excusing citizen immigrants who share the same sentiments as jordan so that they can be likeĀ āoh but iām not a villain bc weāre fundamentally different!!ā
i know that itās fiction but iām a huge believer that media doesnāt exist in a vacuum and that every piece of information we consume changes how we think in some way (whether we agree or disagree w/ the media, processing that information AFFECTS us and our brains) and i just. itās a villain story and i donāt really agree with the premise of it when it could have been written better without the subplot ofĀ āimmigrant bad!ā that was thrown in there. the whole white supremacist vibes that heās got going on are already bad, but associating that with immigrancy just leaves a REALLY bad taste in my mouth, especially during these years where anti-immigrant sentient already rages in america & across the western world.
i know thatās heās a (descendant of) white immigrants, and i know that intersectionality definitely affects the overall meaning of his character; itās just that the white supremacist arc SHOULD have been enough to villainize him, except that to make him aĀ ābetter villainā or to villainize him in the eyes of the people, the writers decided to make jordan part of theĀ āotherā, so that non-immigrant (read: born-citizen) white ppl in america donāt relate because heās the bad guy, so that citizens can excuse themselves if they feel similar sentiments bc theyāre not closely related to an immigrant story (even tho everyone in america who is not native is either descended from immigrants or the immigrants that forcibly brought slaves) (also thereās a huge difference between immigrants & second & third gen immigrants compared to fourth and beyond bc of the proximity to actual immigrant oppression)
adding in that heās (CLOSELY descended from) immigrants allows the white ppl of america to excuse themselves as well as ascribe that he has that sentiment BC of immigrancy, which villanizes the immigrant story itself. also the wholeĀ āamerican dreamā being a wagon for supervillains is also just bad and i hope that barbara OR AN ACTUAL NON-VILLAIN IMMIGRANT gets to control it when the isa is gone
tl;dr: i have a huge issue w the immigrant narrative bc it exists solely to make jordan part of theĀ āotherā and in turn, functions to villainize immigrants in america. iām not like anti-jordan as a character iām just very anti-the way heās written and how immigrancy is used as a scapegoat
#asks#i'm so sorry this got so. ranty#but as an immigrant i just.#i have such strong feelings abt it and the way immigrants r portrayed in media#white supremism /#white supremacist /#idk know what to tag this as but yeah#ask to tag#edit but if someone wants to respond to this take (anybody who reads this)#pls dont unless ur an immigrant!!#iām not here for citizens telling me. an immigrant. what is xenophobic and whatās not#stargirl#but anon thank u for asking#i hope ur having a wonderful day!!!! thank u for giving me space to talk abt this#*essay#sgessay
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Do you agree when ppl say that " Haha Jaime is such a moron he was jealous of Joffrey because Cersei had to breastfeed him therefore JEALOUS MONSTER VALONQAR CONFIRMED NO REDEMPTION CERSEI RULES JAIME DROOLS"? (Funny how everything about Jaime always leads to those conclusions... like the only important thing about his character is a dumb prophecy he has nothing to do with smh)
Anyways, i personally read that as Jaime being uninterested in the kid because let's be real... newborns are annoying, he felt useless because he felt he couldn't do anything for the child, and he was casting a barrier between him and his children because he'd never be seen as a father to them (which doesn't make him neglecting them okay just to be clear...Only to understand his motives)
Even if I'm wrong, the "he's jealous of his son bc he spends time with his lover's boobs what an idiot" is also a stupid interpretation imo, bc it doesn't make sense. Why must everything be read literally? especially when we're talking about a character whose thoughts + words aren't always meant to be taken seriously, because hes usually talking shit and doesn't mean it. (3/6)
And it's weird af that Jaime is judged because of his thoughts but it's okay for Cersei to be dreaming about marrying Rhaegar while manipulating Jaime into thinking he's her one true wuv because omg!!! It's just a crush!! It doesn't undermine her love for Jaime! They're going through a break up that's all which is why C is comparing him to Rhaegar!Ā (The fuck? When Cersei says/thinks something, we must consider everything that's happened and analyse her thoughts to make her look less bad but when Jaime thinks something, it's only that that matters! Huh. Cersei had Jaime convinced that he was the only man she wanted while she dreamt about marrying Rhaegar and going Dragon riding with him, and I'm supposed to believe she loves him? Nah son, she's attracted to anyone who makes her feel powerful. She's power-sexual.)Ā
sorry for going off but I had to get that out. I normally see this differing treatment of Cersei/Jaime's motives from JC/Cersei stans, which I find dumb because it's basically Cersei = always justified no matter what she thinks & Jaime = generic, simple-minded, stupid. My question is... I want to know what you feel about Jaime's jealousy of Joffrey. Apologies for sending such a long ask.
I mean I generally agree with you re the different treatment when it comes to j and c from That Crowd but then again they see j. like c. sees him as in existing just in her function so of course heās pathetic/ridiculous/etc but like.... honestly when it comes to thatĀ specific question:
first of all given that j. wasnāt allowed to be a part of the kidās life from the get-goĀ and c. had told him she didnāt want people to get suspicious... why would he think of the kid as hisĀ kid and not an obstacle in the way?
second: if j. is at the red keep for cerseiĀ basically and sheās - as understandable - all about *her* son (which is not also his) and doesnāt spend time with him therefore leaving him doing a job he hates someplace he hates.... well obviously he resents joffrey because heās in the way and he wants to be with c. and joffreyās the reason heās not? 2+2?
third: idk why people would look at the breast thing as something more than it us but a) straight sex does include breast action ONE WOULD PRESUME so like.... thatās. nothing out of the ordinary, b) heās there like fuck see that annoying kid whoās in the way who gets to have c. and I donāt, like... thatās literally it? nothing more nothing less?
that obv. doesnāt... have... shit to do with the valonqar prophecy XĀ°D like wow heās jealous he has all reasons to be,Ā heĀ hasnāt an attachment to the kid, c. told him he should stay away, he doesnāt consider him his, why the hell should he care and why wouldnāt he be jealous? also weāre talking about one guy who has neverĀ been with anyone but c. so he wasnāt going to distract himself anywhere else??
and like... no itās not really healthy but again since when are we talking abt a healthy relationship anyway? how does the fact that he felt jealous that c. wasnāt going to spend time with him when sheās the only reason heās there anyway mean heās beyond redemption??? which he doesnāt even need anyway narratively??? and like... maybe he could have not neglected them but if c. didnāt want him to be part of their life like thatĀ what was he going to do, father them without her knowing??? like.... he never had a choice in that matter? unless he went and like... did that... without her okay but I mean if anyone found out they were hisĀ kids theyād have all been killed?? I mean itās an argument I honestly donāt.. exactly... get because itās just so transparent I donāt even know whatās there to discuss?? also the thing with c. and r. is like... the crown proof that she never like cared more for himĀ than else because when she convinced him to get into the kg she still thought she was gonna marry rhaegar??? honestly I just.. wish people would grasp the concept that when it comes to jc he always cared for her that way for herĀ more than she ever gaf about himĀ and make peace with it, but. *shrug*
#Anonymous#ask post#only slightly less toxic than chernobyl's ruins#anti-cersei lannister#anti-cersei#anti-lannincest#anti-jaime x cersei
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The interview is from a book called Interviews with K-POP Stars by Park Hee AĀ [x,x,x,x,x]
disclaimer!! this thread is meant to summarize what hoseok said in the interview and keep everything close to the original context, however it may still contain some of opās personal interpretation of his words, so just keep that in mind :D
1. as a kid, hoseok didn't like sports, but instead fell in love with the warm-up exercise routine (which was like a light dance to him). he joined school talent shows because his schoolmates and teachers recommended him.
2. hoseok realized how much he loved dancing; his dad was against it but his mom got him into an academy. they struggled financially so his dance teacher, the leader of Neuron, let hoseok join their dance team bc he was so good, and he wouldn't have to pay for lessons anymore.
3. hoseok learned a lot of technique from the dancer AKIN and took dance lessons from him in gwangju. he also loved boogaloo (a sub-genre in popping) so much that he practiced like there was no tomorrow (and won competitions) and this was where he mostly got his style from.
4. hoseok thought street dance would help him as an idol, but was surprised to learn that there were many constraints in their choreography and made it so hard to show his dance skills. over time, he learned how to show more since BTS had been covering different dance styles.
5. street dance involves individual freestyle, but their choreography was set in frames and angles, so experiences in these two help shape the style hoseok has today.
6. bts's music videos used to focus on synchronized dance, but ever since I NEED U, they started focusing on acting. they studied acting, expressing themselves as characters, performing their roles in the story.
7. blood sweat & tears is hoseok's favorite title track choreography. he struggled with expressing his emotions, and perhaps it's the struggle that makes him feel prouder about finally being able to perform the dance.
8. the mic drop choreography is the opposite of blood sweat & tears; hoseok knew mic drop was his song and ambitiously prepared for the freestyle part with old school hip hop.
9. it was a completely new experience for 3J trying to incorporate traditional dance (fan dance, drum dance, mask dance) into their 2018 mma performance. they wanted to take things further from the oriental features in IDOL by putting a traditional concept on stage.
10. since bts was attending lots of award shows in late 2018, hoseok was afraid that they'd become complacent about attending and performing there. but he thinks if artists want the audience to have fun watching them perform, the artist should actually have fun themselves. 11. hoseok said bts wanted to make it enjoyable for the audience, even if it was more exhausting on their end. bts honestly do enjoy award show performances, and they remind themselves they receive awards from fans there so the ceremonies are meaningful to them. 12. hoseok tells us that comeback stages are for tv, demonstrating the performance as is, whereas awards ceremony and concert stages involve audience interaction. 13. at award shows, bts can't be too liberal with audience interaction because there might be fans of other artists and people who don't know them, so they usually try to stick to a script. 14. bts tries to prioritize fan interaction at concerts since the audience is mostly comprised of their fans. eye contact is a must.
15. even when bts agree on going freestyle and try to look carefree on stage, things are still strictly planned out (communication with audience is more important than performing however they want).
16. hoseok describes that he is a human being with flaws, and there are things he canāt change, but he does tries to aim for perfection.
17. to hoseok, every moment of their performance and the process behind, pouring their blood and sweat and resolving issues, made who he is today, and every moment is equally as meaningful to him.
18. hoseok's mixtape allowed him to show who he is, what he stands for, and how he wanted people to view him. by establishing his identity with this, he'd be able to relax about showing his different sides, and maybe let himself go a little next time.
19. the difference between him and namjoon/yoongi is that hoseok knew music through dance, whereas they knew music just through music. they influenced hoseok a lot, and the team gave him the opportunity to widen his spectrum on music.
20. as the choreography team leader, hoseok was really inspired by the other members' effort in dancing, even if they weren't dancers to begin with.
21. itās important for the team to practice and move in the same mindset and work together on every move of the dance, but now that they understand each other so well, they know exactly what they need. bts always remind themselves that they perform because they love it.
22. hoseok believes the core of btsās performances isnāt synchronized dances or powerful acrobatics, but the unique energy that comes from their heart.
23. because of long concert set lists, bts tries to conserve their strength instead of using it all up at once. saving energy isnāt slacking. they choose to focus their energy differently on what they consider important (or what requires more hype/energy).
24. hoseok tries to serve as the balancing role in group dances. though he is able to encompass different dance styles, and even if at times he wishes to be more visible, he gives up what he can to the other members, for the sake of the performance.
25. hoseok believes he has moved a step forward by integrating his experiences from past performances; they have widened his spectrum.
26. he combines improvisation with planned parts for performances like mic drop, depending on how his body goes, how the music flows, and how they vibe together.
27. boy meets evil is a painful song about a boy meeting the devil and struggling with sweet addiction; it gave him a chance to ask himself what it takes to express himself well with this challenging piece, full of acrobatics and difficult moves. (he said he really met the devil)
28. for trivia: just dance, hoseok's goal was to just enjoy it. he wanted to show how he fell in love with dance, how much he loves it and how it feels, and also showing how it fits within the narrative of his life.
29. dancing as bts j-hope is different from dancing as jung hoseok; j-hope has to consider the dance, expressions, gestures, coordinating with members and audience; hoseokās performance would have to become more professional to be like j-hope, who receives more diverse attention.
30. hoseok has always wanted to showcase his dance like how he did as a kid, so he started doing āhope on the streetā to revisit those feelings and dreams as a kid. he still loves dancing and hopes to carry on as long as he can as a performer.
31. hoseok doesnāt categorize his dance into contemporary or street; boundaries between genres are often blurred and depends on how each person perceives it. to him, itās just about listening to the music and letting his body move. he dances just because he loves it so much.
32. when everyone in the team is worn out, hoseok gives them energy. he doesn't do it on purpose, but the members have come to embrace him that way naturally, and they have also grown to understand each other and function so well as a team.
33. bts try to express a clear message through their albums. when working on albums, namjoon and yoongi play key roles lead discussions with their insight, stories they wish to tell, and what fans are saying. they get so much energy sharing advice with each other.
34. as bts has been growing in popularity and becoming well-seasoned artists, hobi says they are able to explore more diverse possibilities and share their opinions on new ideas. it's hard to always be in agreement, so they suggest even more and better ideas in their discussions.
35. hoseok says he feels so amazing and energized on stage, but his body aches terribly as he comes off the stage (especially during the US leg of the LY tour). he thinks the gap between how he feels being on and off stage is unfairly large. thatās why he prefers being on stage.
36. even though hoseok has been on stages of drastically different sizes and shapes, they are all fundamentally the same to him. he just feels alive whenever he dances and performs, interact with the crowd, and get cheered on.
37. hoseok likes to dance because it's when he doesn't have to think about anything in the moment. all he wants is for the crowd to know that he truly enjoys it. but since btsās stages have been growing, the added pressure makes it harder for them to perform just for enjoyment.
38. hoseok says he would like to work on stage production in the future. since heās been on different kinds of stadiums, he thought about what kind of show he wants to present, based on his observations and experiences, though performing is still his priority.
39. he believes dance has the power to move hearts. even though how much dance means to people vastly differs, dance is effective at moving others because its power comes from āactionsā that one can see, and hoseok also started dreaming about dancing as he watched others dance.
40. finally, hoseok thinks his identity is pretty straightforward: he followed that pulling attraction from dance, which led him to bts, and fans have come to appreciate him as part of bts and as a dancer, all of which have accumulated to his identity as jung hoseok and j-hope.
#jhope#hoseok#hobi#bts#wow this man really has all my love and respect this was so lovely to read#it seems like he was more vulnerable than usual with this i rly appreciate that so muchš„ŗ
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just took my melatonin bc i have to wake up at 4:30 AM to drive 16 hours to my motherās so iām sorry if this becomes derailed but uh. hereās the roleswap lore! or, at least, everything iāve decided (along with matthew and corinne bc the three of us tagteamed on it)Ā
gonna chuck it all under a readmore bc this is going to get long
so first off, just gonna run out in front and say i have no idea how this fits into graduation plot. i havenāt gotten that in plot consideration, given their character differences in comparison to their canonical selves. so, for the most part, itās a lot of background establishment and character traits. but i do have a few plot bits that iāve figured out bc i thought it was cool. why such a long preamble? i donāt know. help me
fitzroy maplecourt:Ā
first off, heās not called sir!!! because he doesnāt go to knight school!Ā
my idea for his backstory is that the way he decides to grapple with his identity crisis/imposter syndrome (which he definitely Still has) is that instead of becoming a grander, larger than life version of himself. he just. goes the opposite.
not necessarily becoming a degenerate (bc he just smokes pot and thatās not bad heās just vibing)??? but more just like. leaning into the laid-back nature of life that one might pick up from a lifetime in rural country.Ā
he goes to a liberal arts school a ways away and just decides to bum around and take life not seriously. he develops a pretty large group of acquaintances being a hippie stoner; he doesnāt really pursue a degree either. i think if he picked up any major it was probably like. an art major or an english but he basically fails most of his classes bc he doesnāt care!Ā
unlike his canonical counterpart, fitzroy doesnāt mind being called nicknames!! ones i think he has the most are fitz or roy, but basically you could call him anything and heāll respond. that is because, instead of clinging to the concept of his identity bc itās the only thing he feels he has, his identity is nebulous!! he doesnāt understand it and it scares him too much to be concrete, so he just lets people decide shit about him for him.Ā
his personal philosophy is more about floating through life and letting people assume shit about him than having a solid personality and backstory that people understand and recognize. it is a more dissociative way of having an identity crisis! how fun! he also barely talks about his past, and what he does talk about are cherrypicked points of his past that fit his narrative of being a casual down-to-earth hippie
Ā the moment that this all changes is when order decides to pop in and grant him powers!!!! wahoo!!!! hereās how that happens:Ā
heās baked out of his fucking gourd in his dorm room, in the spring semester of his junior year. heās alone (which is rare) and heās maybe a little sad, but he decides to just ignore it. he looks at his table and laughs.Ā āhehe, what if this table just. blew up?ā he says to himself. it isnāt that funny, but he laughs. then he lays his hand on the table.Ā
the table blows up.
after that, he has magic!!!Ā
iām going to go into detail a little bit later about how fitzroyās magic manifests in the roleswap universe, but i wanna get through the backstory first. basically, he gets really freaked out after his magic comes to him because it is So New and Wow What and What The Fuck.
he realizes that this new addition to his character Completely changes how people who know him would perceive him (as a bum stoner chill guy), and he can no longer have control of his narrative with this magic business. so he drops out!
well, he actually just transfers. to a school far, far away where people will never know who he was and he can rebuild his narrative with this magic incorporated into it. he chooses wiggenstaffās because he figures the school would have more of a knowledge of magic than his libarts school, which would mean he could understand why the fuck weed gave him magic (sidenote: it wasnāt weed, obvs, but he thinks this so for a while he doesnāt smoke!)Ā
he is now the chill hippie of wiggenstaffās!!! most people like him because his personality is fairly easy to digest; some people think he shouldnāt be there, but he is! he starts out as a sidekick and he wouldāve honestly been fine with that forever, but then heās suddenly thrust into the hero track!!! wow!!!! i will also explain this with the magic.Ā
but yeah!! thatās fitzroy, for the most part. now weāll move onto the other boy
argonaut keene:
he actually prefers if people call him argonaut, but heās less likely to correct people than canon fitzroy Or canon argo. heās a tad bit shyer in this universe!
argoās backstory pretty much follows the same idea of his canonical background, but with some key differences that shape him into the character he is in the present!Ā
basically he still grows up on shebrieās ship, surrounded by crewmates and the salty sea air. but his fascination with the sea doesnāt manifest into this swashbuckling lifestyle that he has in canon.Ā
what fascinates him more is the ship itself. how it functions, how water wears down wood, how directional currents can affect navigation. basically, he becomes invested in the sciences part of sealife more than the pirateering. he has special interests in marine biology, but his heart remains in nautical engineering. figuring out ways to make the ship run better, faster, and more efficiently consumes his childhood thoughts!
shebrie encourages her sonās craving for knowledge with tomes and books from all over the world about anything related to engineering and nautical things. heās homeschooled, basically, but he becomes rather intelligent within a few short years!Ā
and then, well....shebrie dies. yeah we arenāt escaping that finality, sorry folks. that part of canon Still Applies.
after shebrieās death (coughMURDERcough), argo is. traumatized! and he makes the decision to almost entirely sever himself from his life on the sea. itās all too painful to look back upon--the times he spent studying with his mother in the captainās quarters, rattling off dolphin facts as they sailed onward, dreaming of turning gears as the ship gently rocked him to sleep--and so he just decides to throw the whole thing out!
he canāt ignore his lifetime of education, though, so he continues to pursue it. with the remainder of money his mother left behind, he enrolls himself in a boarding school of science and technology, with plans to continue study in Only engineering. no more nautical Anything on his roster.
eventually, when he is old enough and graduates high school, he roams around...trying to figure out what to do. he doesnāt have enough money for college, so he canāt continue his scholarly efforts yet. he works around, job-to-job, city-to-city, and just notices how...delayed everything feels. like society is suffering under this slow pace towards innovation.Ā
and thatās when he decides his next course of action. if he were to discover the root of some problem and engineer a solution, he would be famous! he would gain notoriety and praise and--and all the things his mother had as a captain. but he would have it on his own, separate from his mother, and separate from his past.Ā
he figures out his next course of action: attend a school that will give his prestigious enough marks to be accepted onto a research team, find a problem, solve it, help the world, maybe earn a little bit of that credit and respect that would make him feel like he was doing his mother proud.Ā
the thing i want to emphasize here is that argoās take on helping the world comes from that morality that canon fitzroy has. canon fitzroy wanted to be a knight because he wanted to fairly and justly instill ideas ofĀ āgoodā andĀ ābadā onto the world. roleswap argo has a similar moral sense, but instead of establishing rules he wants to fix theĀ ābadā and make itĀ āgoodā in a technological/scientific sense.
the only school argo can think of that can get him that kind of notoriety is wiggenstaffās. getting onto the HOG board would mean heād have access to countless resources and be respected by a large audience, which would give him the opportunity to make change happen. even if heās only a sidekick On Paper, what matters is that the diploma would give him the ability to Apply to the HOG. so he drafts a carefully worded letter for a scholarship and achieves a full-ride!!! epicĀ
like fitzroyās magic, iām going to break down argoās relation to the unbroken chain after i get through backstory stuff. but trust me, Iāve Thought Of It
argo sort of blends into the background at wiggenstaffās. or, he would, if his roommates/friends werenāt so Fucking Out There. fitzroy is enough to make him always be visible, but even the firbolgās massive frame means eyes are always on him. which makes him nervous!! he doesnāt like the attention (as opposed to his canonical self, who revels in it for the self-esteem fuel) his insecurities manifest more in what heās Doing rather than what he Is, mostly because his identity is barricaded by a wall of trauma repression
heās still plenty funny and witty, just quieter. also heās a lot Meaner than canon argo, at least to me. because if you irritate him he Will just completely shut you down with words. motherfucker doesnāt bark but he will most DEFINITELY bite
thatās their backstories, for the most part! in terms of how they interact together:
as established, they meet prior to wiggenstaffās on a tinder date (during the grace period of argo working odd jobs and fitzroy about to be granted immense fucking power) and end up casually dating during the course of their wiggenstaff education. argo is a nervous goober and fitzroy just likes making him blush. itās very cute.
fitzroy is still less inclined for the romantic than argo, who remains a steadfast absolute romantic internally. fitzroy still holds a lot of the self-doubt and distrust that canon fitzroy has, only it manifests in him not taking anything seriously! which means when he catches Feelings feelings he basically freaks outĀ
argo still falls in love really quickly, only now heās more conflicted about it because being in love means trusting and trust means communication and communication means Oops Years Of Trauma Are Being Unloaded Uh Oh!Ā
now iām going to touch on the big points that i find really interesting: fitzroyās magic and argoās relation to the unbroken chain
fitzroyās magic:
chaos is not the being that grants him magic. itās order!Ā
my take on what this means for what deity is on what plane of reality is that chaos is more Needed so they are the one that is physically On Nua, while Order remains in dreamscapes because they are already a constant amongst the tangible world. yes i know this directly contradicts the reasoning for why theyre Supposed to be where in canon, leave me alone iām having fun.Ā
my reasoning for this switch is because chaos stands to be a contradiction to everything canon fitzroy has going on. he has a very strict, nailed-down understanding of himself and the world. everything he thinks is in black and white, bold statements, no questions, he follows rules and obeys the law. untiiiiil chaos gives him magic and shocks him out of that complacency. they lean into his inner impulses and that rage heās kept locked deep inside. they allow for magic to Explode out of him, rather in calculated bursts or with intent.Ā
which is why order is more fitting for roleswap fitzroy!! because fitzroy, in this world, has less of a concrete grasp of himself and the world. he purposely lets himself be nebulous and goes with the flow. thinking of the future in real terms is not something fitzroy Does, he has no plans and thatās Fine. order seeks to give fitzroy a backbone, to put it simply.Ā
his magic doesnāt go impulsively out of him. it is calculated--it comes with thoughts and intentions. the reason it surprises fitzroy when the table blows up is because he didnāt think his thoughts or wants would amount into that, but thatās what order is trying to show him. that his intentions matter. that he matters and he has to Think and Focus and Be Here.
iām still not sure if his power would manifest as lightning??? because the imagery for the lightning works perfectly for canon fitzroy because of the random power of lightning strikes. but for roleswap fitzroy itās more like...thunder. like Purpose. thunder happens because of a reaction--it comes with intent. if differing air temperatures collide, it creates thunder. that combination is purpose + intent equating in magic.Ā
i think that part needs word bc like. how would one quantify thunder?? i think fire might also work really well because the idea of a controlled fire. like things have to Happen in order for fire to start, it canāt just appear like lightning can.Ā
orderās manipulation relies more heavily on the concept of boosting him up as a savior/hero, rather than boosting his ego and desire for power. fitzroy Has no desires in roleswap world--heās just there. but when he gets put on the hero track, now heās suddenly been given purpose. and order uses that to be likeĀ āwow, look at all these people who rely on you! look how important you are! donāt you want to use this magic for good?? to do good?? start a war with a demon come on pussy :-)ā
OH YEAH also he becomes a hero in this universe (like in terms of tracks) because of the fact that it directly contradicts how he views himself. for canon fitzroy, it was showing him how much more he is capable of without the restrictions of morals (i.e, king fitzroy). but roleswap fitzroy doesnāt Have an image he wants to bolster! he doesnāt think he needs it and, frankly, he doesnāt care for it. the hero tracks carries with it all these stereotypes and expectations that now directly contradict his personality--thus showing him he is capable of more.
okay now for argoās business jesus christ this post is so long and im NOT EVEN DONE WITH ALL THE POINTS I WANTED TO MENTION
argoās relation to the unbroken chain:
so since roleswap argo has less of an association with his past (and, by extension, the memory of his mother), he is less inclined to join the mysterious cult that his mother was a part of.Ā
moreover, he doesnāt necessarily believe the shit heās told??? heās way more skeptical of jackal than canon argo is--immediately questioning why and how jackal knew his mother, and constantly trying to poke holes through his narrative.
generally speaking, if you try to talk to roleswap argo about his mother or his past, he Shuts Down. like completely. and that usually results in him snapping at you or just clamming up completely. mostly he just gets really snippy and angry because Hey Shut Up Dickhead I Donāt Want To Talk About It
a part of me still isnāt sure whether or not argo would take the unbroken chain up on their offer. but i also know that, plot wise and character arc wise, it is a necessary part of argoās story. so i think, at most, he agrees but is extremely hesitant and might even let fitzroy on immediately once heās given the task of digging into fitzroyās life
also, theyāre boyfriends in this universe, so how could he Really keep it a secret for that long. come on jackal, you idiot, you know theyāre kissing.Ā
i think heād Eventually warm up to jackal as a sort of father figure, but only after many nights of conversation and dancing around the subject of shebrie.
OH YEAH. this argo doesnāt know the commodore murdered his mother! important to note! he just assumes what he was told was true, that she sailed into dangerous territory and was ambushed.Ā
during the tribunal bit If That Even Happens In This World, i think fitzroy actually is the one who figures it out Before argo. and once argo does, well............fuck!
OKAY last little bit, just gonna talk about some random extra parts of the world that iāve thought of already:Ā
in this universe, grey takes on higglemasās identity instead of hieronymousās!!! this is for good reason actually
okay so basically my thought was that, instead of whatever happened in canon yadda yadda dog time, hieronymous and grey are fighting and itās a pretty evenly matched battle. thereās a cooldown moment where hiero thinks heās safe but grey uses sneaky backhanded tactics to try and get the drop on him.Ā
only higgs sees it in time and saves his brother, taking the hit himself. he collapses, extremely wounded, and hiero rushes to his aid. heās cradling his brotherās body, trying to keep him alive, when grey approaches to deliver the final blow.Ā
hiero is completely crushed and defeated and basically will let grey do anything to him by this point. the only thing he begs of is to let him live long enough to save his brother.
now, grey isnāt nice. let me make that clear. grey fucking SUCKS and the reason he agrees is because he wants a Real War with hiero and he canāt get that if hiero is basically likeĀ āif you let higgs die then you might as well kill meā.
so, grey agrees, and hiero ends up saving higgs by turning him into a cat. was supposed to be a temporary solution until he could find a better spell, but he wasnāt the magic guy in the duo. eventually, grey gets tired of waiting and decides to do some other shit. like turning the school the brothers have been running into a backalley place for demons!!
he takes the form of higglemas and leaves hieronymous locked in his office as basically a mascot. heās like the queen and grey is the parliament--grey makes all the rules, but everyone assumes itās hiero. faux-higgs is more on the ground, changing things and making the school a place more fitting for an eventual war. he builds up the concept of heroes and villains being Real, in the hopes he can sway some mortals to his side when heās able to open a portal to hell.Ā
hiero still tries to stop this from happening, but his pride and his self-image is wounded by what happened. he feels guilty and puts the blame entirely on him, instead of doing the whole cowardice route like higgs did in canon. he gets people to help him eventually, via mind control and all tht jazz.Ā
also in this universe, buckminster is the one who gets birdified instead of leon!! has to do with my leon/buckminster and higgs/hiero narrative parallels that iāve thought of for far too long.
firbolg is exactly the same in this universe. it is hard to swap three people and i didnāt want to think about him.Ā
fitzroy doesnāt pick a grab. i think heād rather a lizard, like a bearded dragon. he names him something stupid. like scaly. or kyle.Ā
uhhh yeah!!! i think thatās....everything iāve thought of so far!! lemme know if you wanna hear my takes on any other elements in the roleswap world!!!!
#taz graduation#taz sir fitzroy maplecourt#taz argo keene#roleswap maplekeene#ignorance cloud on#thanks em!!!!#sorry this is a mile long i had a lot to say#and now...i sleep!#jesus christ i have to drive 16 hrs tomorrow#help me :-)#ember360
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