#bangar

[darkulis]

Following the deaths of Jormag and Primordus in the Elder Dragons' clash at Anvil Rock, Bangar collapsed in his cell and was taken to a field hospital as his body had suffered grisly side effects from the release of the Ice Dragon's corruption. He seems to have survived the process.

Jormag's fallen unfroze Bangar and this is how he looks like now 😂

a sticker commission (inspire by a cat meme) draw by my friend

[cinews-id]

Wakil Ketua Bangar DPR Sebut Kenaikan PPN 12 Persen Adalah Inisiasi Fraksi PDI Perjuangan

JAKARTA, Cinews.id – Wakil Ketua Badan Anggaran (Banggar) DPR, Wihadi Wiyanto, mengungkapkan Undang-Undang Nomor 7 Tahun 2021 tentang Harmonisasi Peraturan Perpajakan (UU HPP) diinisiasi Fraksi PDI Perjuangan DPR. Hal ini yang menjadi dasar kenaikan Pajak Pertambahan Nilai (PPN) menjadi 12 persen pada 1 Januari 2025. “Kenaikan PPN 12 persen itu adalah merupakan keputusan UU Tahun 2021, HPP.…

[mistfallengw2]

For Aurelia Dragonwings :3 🎲 💌 💢

OC's Background Relationships Ask Game

🎲 - Biological parents

Answered here

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💌 - First crush/love

Ardea. From the moment they became friends in the fahrar, Aurelia and Ardea were inseparable and clearly on the same wavelength. By the time they were teenagers, they were comfortable and in sync with each other as if they were one, as well as already acting like a couple minus making it official and the equivalent of kissing by charr standards.

She doesn't know when it started, but Aurelia never stopped loving her, even long after her death, so much so she was unable to elaborate her grief for years.

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💢 - Person they can't stand

While the bullies in the fahrar were an annoyance she could have done without and her warband dealt with a lot of superiors who elicited that feeling tenfold, Aurelia quickly found out that Bangar took the Imperator's share of the cake in that regard.

It wasn't hate per se, but she felt uncomfortable around him from the moment she met him in person, instinctively sensing the scheming yet violent threads that lined his words and the manipulative poison hiding in his fangs. To make things worse, Aurelia knew she wasn't smart enough to figure out what he really meant and stay on top of discussions with him, but at least Ardea and other members of the warband confirmed her instincts and their "warband before Legion" secret motto played in their favor. In the end, none of his attempts at securing her warband's favor and cooperation or at dividing them up were successful (she refused both his "tutelage" and a promotion to the rank of Legionnaire of the warband in Ardea's place or of her own new warband, and so did everyone else who was presented similar offers), and despite the passive antagonization that followed, they got a few advantages out of it (especially the approval of their ex-member's experimental fahrar).

Those old sensations come up a lot during IBS, with Aurelia being wiser to his methods than most and her experienced confidence not making her bow her head like she used to... and later a new scar to prove she was right to not trust him. Once Bangar is jailed in Eye of the North, she and Rytlock spend quite a few nights drinking over their rarely expressed grievances with him (mostly negative, a few comforting positives) and not being considered real charr by frigid turd like him (you know what? that's a positive).

[queer-as-used-by-tolkien]

I totally agree with this - characters DO do bad things, thats what makes the conflict, that's what gives them the potential for growth and character arcs, that's what enables complex character interactions! Without that, stories are bland and awful.

Saying 'this character is bad unless they apologize/do better' or that 'you can't like this character bc Bad Things' - that's incredibly shallow. Braham's 'bad' moments in S3 were awesome. His comments hurt my Commander, poked her deepest insecurities, emphasized even more the awesome juicy conflict she was already dealing with in that story arc. I like that.

Caithe's role in HoT did similar things - the theme was that really, we don't know who we can trust. Her actions emphasized that point, and they ALSO showed within the Commander how all the suspicion was taking a toll, and how the Commander reacted to that pressure.

All good stuff, juicy stuff that contributes to the story and the arc and the message! All important! All good characters that are okay to like despite the bad.

I think 'liking' a character is a nebulous term anyway! I like this one as a person, they are a good person! Or I like that one as a person because they had a complex growth arc! Or I like that one as a villain because he did evil things and I love hating him. Or I like this one as a character because of their growth, although not necessarily as a person I'd hang out with. Or I like this one as a role model. And I think all these have to be considered when someone says 'I like X.'

Its not wrong to say 'this character did bad things and they are interestingly complex to me = I like them', but it is a vastly different message from 'character did certain things and I think those are good things that good people should do and be liked for, so I like this character' which I feel is how a lot of people interpret 'I like X' and is supposedly problematic if the character actually did BAD things and not good ones. But that's incredibly wonky and I don't think anybody actually thinks or means that. That's maybe what it would mean if you said that about a real person, but real people are vastly different from fictional people.

Now you mention atoning, though, which I think is pretty important. You can't have character growth if you go on doing the same things for the same reasons and never changing. Character relationships grow and change and evolve from apologies and treating each other better.

Of course some characters are villains and keep choosing bad and problematic and generating conflict, and those characters can be great as well and they can still be liked! I LOVE Bangar as a character although of course I hate his guts when I'm PoV: Commander. The story was made much better by him and I love his role. I don't want him to change, I want revenge without the added complexity of him suddenly deciding he wants to change and atone. His character is best the way it is. He wouldn't be himself if he changed.

But I think it's great Caithe and the Commander resolved their differences in S3. I really like how Braham's character grew in S4 past his grief. I really like the things Rytlock had to struggle with and I think having to kill his son was hard for him but also something he had to do - he grew from that.

I also like investigating where a character is coming from, their motivations and perspectives and the history that informs that. Them being other people from me gives me the opportunity to learn about them, and I think that's beautiful and also good character and story design.

TL;DR I love these characters. Character growth requires the characters not be perfect right away. Atoning is pretty cool but not necessary. I love GW2 and obsessing about characters, the good, the bad, the ugly and the evil.

Ultimately it's very funny to me the "character xyz did nothing wrong actually!" fans of every character that gets any degree of hate. OK. Sure. Have you considered though that it's vastly more entertaining and interesting if they *did* do something wrong though?

Said it before I think to sun and sage, and this isn't to pick specifically on Caithe fans, but-- blah blah, never ask a man his salary a woman her age or a Caithe-did-nothing-wrong fan what happened to the centaur settlement in the Silverwastes in 1304 AE! She did help do a massacre there. That's pretty bad overall.

And yet I really like Caithe! I think she's fun and interesting and she's nice to get to know throughout the game. I think these two ideas of "Caithe Did Something Pretty Bad" and "I Like Her" can coexist. Like it's great that she doesn't massacre villages anymore overall but also I think it lends more to her character that she actively participated in this brutal act than if we pretend that she's got mega girl power but only when it's convenient to some morally upstanding end, and otherwise she was just completely at Faolain's dastardly whims. Somehow!

Something about how every character needs to be morally upright and can-do-no-wrong for us to like them, and if they're not they must repent and atone and seek the ultimate forgiveness-- overall it's all very christian in nature and boring and it sucks. You reinvented catholicism is what you did. You made Rytlock confess his sins eat a cracker and atone. You shouldn't do that, he's more interesting without doing that. Personally I think Rytlock should get another divorce and kill another son. And Eir should have also had more secrets she kept, and Caithe should steal a full baker's dozen of dragon eggs from me, and Braham should actually be even worse at handling grief and take it all out on the Commander. These are all what's known as conflict in a story. And they make it sooooo fun. It's almost 2 am, are you rocking with me⁉️

[telltalecoyote]

Cassius, Bangar, and all the lil promises and debts between them

[brightwingedbat]

LONGAR AND RYTLONG

"This is what peak Blood Legion looks like. Heavy focus on peak."

[ratasum]

Should've tried harder, Bangar; should've known rats are hard to kill.

[skaald-of-the-hearth-fires]

Y'all I've always thought it was hilarious what Anet did to warbands.

So. you have Rytlock, who in Edge of Destiny said he had "about a dozen" brothers and sisters each. so including himself, that's 25 in a warband. The wiki says a warband is 6-25 members, so Rytlock was on the high end, and average would probably be 12-18 members.

and then every warband in the game proceeds to have BARELY 6.

you have 5 options to choose from for a sparring partner. Rox's old warband had 6 members (or maybe 7). We've still never met more than one of Rytlock's 'bandmates. Almorra gets one 'bandmate mentioned by name.

most charr in the entire game, including top-ranking tribunes and imperators, are not with their warbands, do not talk about their warbands, do not go places with their warbands. Tribune Bhuer Goreblade shows up with a small handful of 'bandmates in the charr level 10 story.

You do not see groups of 12-18 charr warbands roaming around Ascalon with fascinating life stories and 'bandmate dynamics and mourning the latest one(s) who died, with mementos, with stories about how 'my sparring partner saved my life' and 'this member of the warband whom I know least of all my bandmates would die for me and they proved it last week' and 'Im unhappy with bandmate X but I would kill for them' or 'bandmates Y and Z obviously love each other. wanna join the betting pool?' and the legionnaire who confides in you about their tough decisions of who they're picking to be their second/replacement. All within the same warband.

Not even one warband like this. Much less the multiple that charr culture deserves.

Even in IBS, the, at least half-way, charr-centric story, our main focus warband is Ryland's Steel warband. Who has, predictably, 6 members. And like 10 fresh-faced, unnamed recruits who have 0 history or dynamic with the Main Cast. even the 6 named members, who have vibes and character and a bit of a dynamic, are stupid shallow. (and tbf they didn't have time to explore it much, but really?)

We do not see Bangar's 'bandmates. We do not see Rytlock's 'bandmates. We do not hear anything about Almorra's old 'bandmates. We do not see Ember Doomforge's 'bandmates. We do not see Smodur's 'bandmates. We do not see Malice's 'bandmates. We do not see Efram's 'bandmates.

We see a lot of 'cubs this' (with Rytlock and with Efram), I heard a lot of speculation about 'cubs that' in fandom spaces, we see a lot of 'ohoho relationship/mating drama' (from Rytlock/Crecia and also Almorra/Bangar). We do NOT see ANYTHING about warbands, supposedly the building-blocks of charr society.

Even the charr player's old warband is mostly disbanded/defected to Dominion.

I have yet to see any real warband dynamics in canon.

Even in the books! Rytlock's 24 'bandmates are fair game because they're offscreen. And Anet has consistently refused to show any of them. Even Rytlock's dynamic with Crecia is pretty much just "we're old exes" and never "we grew up together. we fought together. our bonds are deeper than those of biology, than the fact we have a cub. I stabbed you once and you knew I didn't mean it because we are 'bandmates." Sure, Crecia mentions once "ohoho we used to see the ice elementals here as cubs."

But in the books! Sea of Sorrows for instance! iirc the majority of Sykax's warband is unnamed! Ember Doomforge, again, no mentions of warband! Rytlock nor Malice nor Almorra talk about inter-warband relations!

we never see any warbands larger than 6 members.

And this is all because, OBVIOUSLY, who wants to come up with 12-18 whole characters when it's just the one who's relevant to the story? Coming up with 6 is hard enough it only happens in special occasions. which doesn't include the legit actual player character.

(the player character, whose warband is decimated to TWO flaming members (including yourself!!) in the tutorial, and! yay! fun lorebuilding! you get to rebuild the warband. this adds a flaming total of TWO members. now you're at flaming four. FLAMING FANTASTIC. the player-flaming-character gets FOUR 'bandmates. this is atrocious!! and tbf if you compile all the options across all the branches you might end up in the (low end, probably) of 12-18. which is fair!)

but like. I do sympathize. I really do. characters are hard. names especially! which would be the bare minimum yknow. have an 18-member warband with zero dialogue but! they do have names! that wander around Ascalon. not even an event chain just average-sized warband representation PLEASE.

like. I did it myself. I invented a warband and I BARELY got them to 6 members. I had name, gender, profession for each of them. they were minor characters so they didn't even get the development that Ryland's Steel got. names, professions and the vibes from that. I felt so bad for only giving them 6 bc I was reinforcing the stereotype!!

but, so, uhhhh

I have been handed an OC. from a friend. who has given me full creative license to write abt them in my story.

I gave him 23 'bandmates. They all have names and genders. They're split up into who is whose sparring partner and who bunks with whom. That is all.

I also get VibesTM from each member's name. I'm slowly building relationship maps. (mostly just. from character A's PoV, ranking who they are closest with. Then doing it from Character B's PoV. it's WILDLY fascinating.) I have three charr 'bandmates who have their own little niche, they three are besties, they're each other's sparring partners and bunkmates and everybody (main relevant characters at least) knows them as 'those three'. and I know their names. none of the characters I'm writing about know them very well (relative to the rest of the warband ofc. ofc each one would DIE for them and probably knows their struggles and combat strengths and weak points and so on. but I haven't invented any of those yet) and that's all. I don't have a single bit of info about them except that and the vibes of each name. but hey!!!! WARBAND DYNAMICS MY BELOVED!?!!

[wheatskers]

I was in a rare mood to draw actual gw2 characters so here’s Bangar the worst boy

[nomgeonmunchie]

Bangar Ruinbringer from Guild Wars 2

[nurllius]

So I’ve been replaying the story and this whole chapter made me cackle thinking about what must’ve the commander been thinking while seeing Ryland’s memories. And it’s even funnier that that the commander mumbled things while they were in the vision.

[cinews-id]

Banggar DPR RI dan Pemerintah Sepakat Menyetujui RUU APBN 2025

JAKARTA, cinews.id –  Badan Anggaran (Banggar) DPR RI dan Pemerintah menyetujui Rancangan Undang-undang Anggaran Pendapatan dan Belanja Negara (RUU APBN) 2025. “Apakah hasil rapat kerja pada hari ini kita sepakati dan akan kita lanjutkan ketika Rapat Paripurna tanggal 19 September yang akan datang? Setuju?” ujar Ketua Banggar, Said Abdullah sambil mengetok palu tanda persetujuan, dalam Rapat…

[dion-iron]

Oh look who it is

[cindermetalheadgw2]

Just found enneca's dialogue at club canach 🥺 I'm so sorry about what bangar did to your band ANET GIVE US A SIDE QUEST ACHIEVEMENT TO GET THE BAND BACK TOGETHER!!!!!!! please 🥺

[guildtree]

Now that the zine is out, I'm officially allowed to post the full version of my contribution! My norn Commander Loretta gets to ruminate on her past and her relationship with her revenant Legend Kalla Scorchrazor, all while dealing with an enemy that inspires rage in both of them, even across the centuries.

Fun fact: the mix of blue and red in this was really fun for me to balance, and I aimed for a gradual transition from entirely blue to almost entirely red over the four pages to show Jormag's influence waning and Kalla's growing.

Totally check out the full zine here at @gw2-zine! So many amazing creators in there!