#baelor hightower

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Lord Leyton Hightower, his first wife, Lady Evelyn Costayne [OC], and their children; Ser Baelor, Lady Malora, Lady Alerie, and Ser Garth

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What if Elia married Baelor Hightower?

I have no reason to think that Tyrion is wrong in his assessment:

Yes, Tyrion agreed silently. Baelor Hightower was no longer young, but he remained Lord Leyton's heir; wealthy, handsome, and a knight of splendid repute. Baelor Brightsmile, they called him now. Had Elia wed him in place of Rhaegar Targaryen, she might be in Oldtown with her children growing tall around her. (ASOS, Tyrion X)

A much happier Elia, in a city of culture and learning. Not without its challenges, given anti-Dornish sentiment in the Reach, but the honor of wedding a princess and her personal wit and charm might have gone a long way to mending some old wounds there. <3

Hard to picture how things would have proceeded for the Targaryens without Elia, given that she was likely chosen for her Targaryen ancestry, in spite of Aerys's racist contempt, because Steffon was somehow unable to turn up a Valyrian-blooded bride in Volantys. Who would be good enough for the crownprince of a dynasty in dire need of a stable line of succession? They won't have Rhaegar waiting years and years to father an heir, and Aerys has already rejected the daughter of the warden of the West. Catelyn Tully is already betrothed. Lyanna is far too young. Ashara Dayne? Hey, why not Malora Hightower! Something tells me she and Rhaegar would have been a fun match. Mwahahaha. But possibly Targs are superstitious about Hightower brides now.

It's a free for all at that point.

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House Hightower in 300AC A Feast for Crows, appendix

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Hightower Sigil - Ser Baelor Hightower

I've gone a little crazy and made sigils of the ten children of Leyton Hightower. Malora is next.

Under the cut is a previous version that didn't convince me

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elia and baelor hightower and their children oberyn and alysanne

[nebbyy]

A list of my most unpopular ASOIAF opinions and theories

Please remember this is all based on the books alone, and there also might be SPOILERS for Fire and Blood and the Game of Thrones book series.

ALSO I might open the requests for Game of Thrones fics and headcanons, and maybe for Baldur's Gate as well once I get back into it.

Okayyy so here we gooo.

1. Maegor's story doesn't add up

Don't get me wrong, he must've obviously been a horrible king and a shitty husband, but reading the chapters that talk about him in Blood and Fire, it all just felt like a list of rumours and versions of all nefarious crimes he would've committed. There are about five versions of whatever he did with each wife of his, each of them more depraved than the one before.

Again, I don't think he was an angel or anything, but my theory is that his history was written by biased sources. His reign was made illicit by Jaehaerys, so it would've been in his best interest to have him remembered as nothing more than a viscious monster.

It's a form of "damnatio memoriae" that we've already seen, in a way, with Mushroom and the Dance of Dragons. When in a conflict, and especially after a victory, each side wants to depict the side they beat as badly as possible Caesar did a similar thing in "De Bello Gallico", the book about his conquest of the modern French and Swiss territories. In this book he excuses his conquest with the supposed preparations for an attack by the Helvetians, a fact that was proven to be misinterpreted as it was a mere pacific migration. And again, he did the same thing when he accused them of cannibalising each other while being under siege, another untrue fact made up to just make them seem worse.

So in a way, Maegor's reputation could've been made worse by following historians to legitimate Jaehaerys' reign over Aerea's claim.

2. Incest has no effects on Valyrians

Okay, this is a bit weirder. My theory is that Valyrians practised incest because it had no effect on their offspring.

Looking at the Targaryen family tree, I noticed that the cases of madness increase the more Targaryens marry with other houses. Baelor the Blessed was the first mad Targaryen, and he had a grandmother of house Harte and a great grandmother who was half Arryn.

Before Baelor, Helaena is questionably considered mad as well, which would prove my theory furthermore had it not been for the amount of trauma she endured in her life so I'm honestly not gonna count her as "mad". Rhaegel Rargaryen was the second confirmed mad Targaryen, with a Martell mother; his daughter Aelora is questionably considered mad too, and her mother is an Arryn.

Aerion Brightflame was another mad Targaryen, with a half Martell father and a Dayne mother. The last two mad Targaryens were Aerys II and Viserys III, but at this point, the bloodline was mixed with others enough to make the Targaryen madness an unpredictable factor.

3. There is no good or bad in the Dance of Dragons

So I think we could theorise that Valyrians can perform incest so long as it remains within pure Valyrian blood.

Edit: some of you have pointed out how there were other signs of incest complications in the Targaryen family such as malformities and stillborn babies. I really am no biologist and I don't want to dwell into that "Valyrian race supremacy" craziness, but those cases are once again always correlated to marriages between Targaryens and other houses, for example all of Maegor's stillborn and unborn children (as 5 out of his 6 wives were not Targaryens/Valyrians) or the following cases.

Rhaenyra had a claim on the throne because of Viserys' will, but Aegon had a claim on the throne because of the laws of Westeros themselves. You can argue that Alicent wasn't the nicest stepmother, yet you can't look me in the face and tell me a woman in the middle ages married to a KING to whom she had given THREE SONS wouldn't complain when the king dismisses all of them and their claims in favor of his firstborn daughter.

Otto may have manipulated Alicent, but that was just how a Lord was supposed to act in that situation: have her marry the best candidate (the king), have her birth at least a son (she did) and make sure those children are first in line for the throne (as it should be, by the laws).

Viserys shouldn't have remarried if he already had his heir, period.

At the same time, Rhaenyra had every reason to fight for her claim and try and go against the actual laws of Westeros, but it was inevitable that many would've seen badly her attempt at claiming what was Aegon's birthright.

Lucerys was an asshole for mutilating Aemond and never showed remorse, quite the opposite. Aemond was an asshole who shouldn't have had all the power he had, plus I hardly believe his and Alys relationship was really consensual so there's that..

In the end, they all had their rights and wrongs, but that doesn't matter at all. The only point about the Dance is the fact that a pointless conflict led to the downfall of one of the strongest families in Westeros history.

4. Rhaegar didn't love Lyanna

I hate the series for making them marry. Like, seriously, have D&D ever read the books? Have they not read what happened between Maegor and the Faith when he took another wife??

Never, not even in the most twisted of universes, would the faith let Rhaegar kidnap and marry a Stark girl while he was still married to Elia. That just wouldn't be plausible.

And I also don't think he'd just fall in love at first sight with a random girl at a tournament. She was a beautiful soul and had many qualities, but she had nothing that could truly make a man throw away his whole life to pursue her.

He needed another child. The dragon has three heads. He had Rhaenys and Aegon, but Visenya was missing (I just made up the name for the third possible child considering he was naming them after the three conquerors lmao). He needed Lyanna to have that third child, and he knew how to get her to get what he wanted.

Perhaps we'll find out this isn't true. Perhaps Rhaegar really was head over heels for Lyanna, but I honestly really really doubt it.

5. There is no certainty on who the Prince that was Promised is

No matter what the show wants us to see, we still don't know who it is. It could be Daenerys, it could be Jon, it could even be Stannis and we're not gonna know it until Martin reveals it.

I honestly think Daenerys is Azor Ahai, but I'm still curious to see why we would need to revive Jon then. And considering Stannis' sword possibly being Azor Ahai's sword, is it a fake one made by Melisandre to get what she wanted from him, or does he actually possess the original sword?

Well, these are the first theories and opinions I could think of right now, I might post more in the future. Again, please don't slander me in the comments, these are just my personal opinions and I respect all others.

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TARGARYEN PORTRAITS: PART 4

by riotarttherite on twitter

featuring: Lady Jocelyn Baratheon (1), Lord Rodrik Arryn (2), Ser Corwyn Corbray (3), Ser Garmund Hightower (4), King Aegon III (5), King Daeron I (6), King Baelor (7), Princess Daena (8), Septa Rhaena (9), Princess Elaena (10)

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Michael Manwoody, Elaena Targaryen, Shaera Targaryen, Jaehaerys ii Targaryen

Bethany Bracken, Terrence Toyne, Bonnifer Hasty, Rhaella Targaryen

Jena Dondarrion, Baelor Targaryen, Valarr Targaryen, Kiera of Tyrosh

Roose Bolton, Walda Frey, Lyonel Hightower, Samantha Tarly

Jeyne Arryn, Jessamyn Redfort, Lady Essie, Sylvenna Sand

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A take on Rhaenyra's usurpation and the coming line of succession

I don't usually take sides. I do not. And I'm sorry for the long scroll you've got to do. But reading the succession line page of Fire and Blood kind of makes me very sad.

People can argue whatever they want but saying 'Aegon's ascent was disputed by his half-sister Rhaenyra' rather than 'Rhaenyra's ascent was disputed by her half-brother Aegon' is the worst thing that could happen to her.

Everyone can say whatever they want and I'll take your opinions in consideration, respecting it with grace, but Rhaenyra was the rightful heir till the end of Viserys I's reign. Whether it is the show or book, she remained being one. Despite Alicent doing it willingly or mistakenly, Rhaenyra does get usurped.

This sentence here makes it quite clear that Viserys didn't care about what the Lords of Westeros thought and to be honest, as a king he really does not need to. (And it really does not goes into the point of Maegor doing as he wanted) The king's is the final word when it comes to Monarchy. If Viserys says Rhaenyra is the heir, she is the heir. Jaehaeyrs, named Baelon his heir instead of Rhaenys, Aemon's daughter, because he wanted to, he brought the Council of 101 because he wanted to. Just as Viserys names his daughter his heir because he wanted to. For if he didn't, had Aemma not died, had he not married Alicent, Daemon would be his heir. But this was his first and foremost decision after losing his wife and child.

Many say that if Rhaenyra couldn't bear to do sacrifices then she should have given up her claim but there is one thing that we need to realise.

Rhaenyra was the first ever woman to officially named heir.

Surely, there have been many women who were names heir presumably before.

Aerea/Rhaella Targaryen was heir to both Maegor and Jaehaeyrs.

Rhaena, Aenys' daughter, could have been also considered his heir until Aegon the Uncrowned was born.

But Rhaenyra's accession as the heir is pointed out in book being lavish and how many lords did bend their knee to her. Rhaenyra's accession as the heir and future reigning Queen was a way to open a door, to pave a path for all the other woman born in House Targaryen to be able to get the heirship.

It is not a small thing. It is a duty that she has been given. A duty not just for herself but for all the girls, all the women who might have been born before their younger brothers and could be passed over by them just for the fact of them being woman.

I won't say she didn't make mistakes. She did. But even as a character we need to understand that we read about a human. She did what she had to, to salvage from whatever she was given.

She was given a shitty situation, to be honest. Married to a man who unofficially known to be gay, even the council knew of this when the matter of her marriage was called upon the discussion.

And to be honest, if I were in Rhaenyra's place, being given the ability to change the laws of succession, being able to prove that I could be better than what everyone thought if me, even I would give up my stubbornness and deal with hand that I'm dealt with.

Rhaenyra had more to lose than anyone in this situation. And she would not only bring herself down in this situation but also the other women who would come after her too.

And that's what exactly happened even after trying everything she could.

The line of succession page in the first two images is exactly what ends up happening because some people couldn't bare the thought of Rhaenyra, a woman, ascending the throne.

Because either willingly or mistakenly, Alicent Hightower wanted her blood on the throne as Viserys himself says this in the book.

When we read this highlighted line, we must understand this that Alicent either had talked to Viserys about it or showed it from her actions. And this is being talked pointedly about the book. Not the show. The book.

Rhaenyra's refusal to accept Aegon's accession is no way wrong. She is the rightful heir. It is her right. Something she is given by her father. Something her father didn't want another person, much less his own sons, to have.

And this is usurpation.

This usurpation, The Dance Of The Dragons, it leads to the future kings, Viserys II and his council to consider not putting Aegon III's daughter Daena at the throne after all her older brother were dead. He rather installs himself as the king and then his son, Aegon IV.

Of course, she and her sisters were kept away from the world, all the thanks to Baelor the idiot (I refuse to call him blessed), she could still have learned. She was loved by small folk. Some lords even supported her. But only because her grandmother had been usurped, only because men were too afraid of what would happen if she were to become a reigning queen, too plauged with past to even do the right thing, she too was passed over for her Uncle.

Well here ends my Ted talk.

And for my works and a very shameless self-promotion here's my masterlist

Lots of love 💕

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[agentrouka-blog]

A single fart would not have driven me from Baelor Hightower 😂 no matter how funny it was

Are you a fifteen-year-old girl high on the excitement of travel, with an extremely mischievous little brother sending you into gigglefits every time he mutters "Breakwind", though? Inescapable cocktail. 🤭

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DANCE OF DRAGONS : ALICENT HIGHTOWER AND RHAENYRA TARGARYEN

FOUR KING: AEGON III TARGARYEN ,DAERON I TARGARYEN , BAELOR I TARGARYEN , AEGON IV TARGARYEN AND AEMON TARGARYEN

[kyuremking]

Doing the Hightower family tree has given me more ideas for this au, here we go.

How does Jonna come to Oldtown?

As a bastard daughter Jonna is made aware of what is expected of her fairly early on because as Sansa and Arya are young, the septa Mordane and Catelyn give her an education that she would not normally receive as a man.

That is, she knows that she will most likely end up married to the second or third son of a minor northern lord that her father or brother decide for her.

As Sansa grows older and Catelyn and Mordane's attention is diverted to her, Jonna has more free time which she spends with Old Nan or Maester Luwin gaining more knowledge.

With Old Nan's midwifery and Maester Luwin's language classes, Jonna dreams of making her own name and her own money by helping in childbirth and if possible moving to Essos so that her taint as a bastard is not so important.

Year 293. When the whole mess happens with Jorah selling people to the Tyroshi this becomes a big stir in the North and Oldtown so Baelor Hightower on behalf of his father travels North to take Lynesse home with him, but Jorah takes Lynesse with him and escapes.

Baelor visits Winterfell to talk to Eddard about what happened and Jonna sees her chance to gain new knowledge by joining the Citadel and make her own future.

Since no one is watching her (they are too busy attending to the Hightower group), Jonna steals Robb's old clothes, cuts her hair short and hides her feminine features as best she can to pass herself off as a boy and begs one of the Hightower soldiers to take her to the Citadel since it has always been her dream to become a maester.

The soldier is not convinced but when Jonna demonstrates that she already possesses a knowledge of letters and mathematics beyond what would be expected of a mere commoner, the soldier talks to Baelor who is too busy with the mess caused by Jorah to realize that Jonna is a girl and agrees to take the boy.

He mentions in passing to Ned about taking a talented boy for the citadel and Ned thinks it's someone from outside the castle and doesn't give that subject a second thought.

So the Hightower group leaves the North and Jonna leaves behind a letter explaining that she is leaving to find her own future (without saying exactly where she is going).

And so Jonna's life disguised as a man in the citadel begins.

I will add more to this in the future

This is for @catofadifferentcolor inspired by its amazing fem! jon snow bunnies which is a guilty pleasure of mine.

And I promised a fem! Jon x Hightower, so here I go.

I have three ideas of how the thing might go:

1.-Soulmark

2.-fem!Jon disguises herself as a man to study at the Citadel.

3.-Princess fem!jon desires freedom from the oppressive life in the Red Keep, knowing that her father will never allow her to travel North she heads South.

Commonalities of all ideas:

fem!jon name is Jonna(this may change).

All ideas start before canon.

The name of fem!jon's couple is Hugor Hightower and Sam is his "squire" more like Hugor's right hand man.

Friendship between Jonna and Satin, Sam as well as Alleras.

Exploration of the faith of the Seven.

The Hightowers seeking information of magic and omens about the White Walkers.

The dragon eggs of Jonna and her future children are from Silverwind and the eggs come from the Red Lake where the dragon made her lair at the end of the Dance of the Dragons.(That is unless Cannibal makes an appearance).

I explain the three ideas here below:

1.- Soul Marks

The Old and New Gods decide to unite Jonna Snow the bastard of Lord Eddard Stark with Hugor Hightower, grandson of the current lord of House Hightower, Lord Leyton Hightower.

This one is very much inspired by Bequeathed from Pale Estates by Author376 which is possibly the best fem!jon fic ever written.

But I feel like anything I would write would be a bad copy and so I'm not too excited about this one.

From the beginning it's all about the Hightower's looking for hints of the others.

Jonna is forced to bear the heavy burden of how to manage a house like the Hightowers(luckily she has help) as she is the future mistress of this house as well as adapting to the south, its customs and religion one that she has always shunned as that was her stepmother's domain.(This however helps her prepare for when she is queen).

Bran travels with Jonna to the south as Hugor's squire, the rest of the Starks stay in the North at least at first.

(This one is undecided)Shireen joins the traveling party at Dragonstone because it is believed that a cure has been found at the Citadel or at least they are close to finding it. Patchface soon dies.

The traveling party goes by ship and accidentally attend Daenerys' wedding with Khal Drogo. Hugor murders Jorah at the wedding to cleanse the honor of the North and the Hightower (Shireen poses as a Florent if she goes with them on the voyage).

Brienne becomes Shireen's handmaiden. So that she has a protector in places where the men cannot go.

Lots of exploration of the Faith of the Seven.

Tyrell and Hightower being family and acting like it. Jonna realizing that the Starks and the Tyrells are more alike than she will ever admit.

Olenna thinks Jonna looks like the Targaryens and dismisses that thought immediately as absurd and that her eyesight is failing. It doesn't take well to realize that she figured it out before anyone else and can't rub it in the others' faces.

Prophecy of Azor Ahai reimagined using the old gods and the faith of the Seven as drivers and a bit of Valyrian sacrifices.

Good Aegon/young Griff. I'm not sure about Daenerys.

Jonna and Hugor have two children before the war against the Others the rest come after.

For now that's what I have for this idea.

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2.- fem!Jon disguises herself as a man to study at the Citadel.

Jonna calls herself Jon. She left Winterfell because she felt there would be no future for her if she always stayed under the protection of her father and Robb.

She studies medicine and languages mostly to be able to go to Essos someday and make money there.

Together with Sam and Alleras she discovers the cure for the greyscales.

She stays away from Hugor as she fears he will discover her secret and cast her out. However they are not able to stay away for long almost as if fate or a certain raven manipulated destiny to bring them together.

Many think that Jonna is Lord Dayne's bastard son whom he does not want around so that he does not threaten the status of his son Edric.

Exploration of the Citadel.

Road trip throughout Westeros in search of omens about the Others by mandate of Lord Leyton Hightower. A certain person may birth dragons during the course of this or encounter Cannibal.

Prophecy of Azor Ahai reimagined using the Old Gods and the faith of the Seven as drivers and a bit of Valyrian sacrifices.

Well Aegon/young Griff. Not sure about Daenerys.

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Princess fem!jon desires freedom from the oppressive life in the Red Keep, knowing that her father will never allow her to travel north she heads south.

Targaryen Drama

Nobody expects Cannibal

The moment Jonna leaves the capital things start to get crazy, thank goodness she got out of there.

It's basically Jonna and Hugor having their slow romance while King's Landing is in flames.

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How do we feel about the show runners turning Rhaenyra into an insane religious cult/cult-like leader? I didn’t really expect, I actually thought (like many others) they would start portraying her closer to her book counterpart, ESPECIALLY, after Lucerys’ death.

(I���ve seen a few people on Twitter complain about, calling the decision sexist and misogynist😟.

If this is way they’re going, she’s going to have autonomy over herself and her actions, so I don’t see anything that’s sexist or misogynist. It absolutely not going to make her look worse the Aegon or any member of TG)

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I certainly do not have problems with Jaehaera-lives AU. The only thing bothers me is that they tend to justify Jaehaera as a more reasonable mother for Daenaera's children. WELL, let's see. About Daeron, his war-thirsty character and amition is from the Greens? But look who's his closest war counselor? Alyn Velaryon. They made the war plan together behind Viserys. It's also not hard to relate Alyn impact on him from his mother's side. About Baelor? His zealousness to faith? Look he might look over-faithful but he was actually the one robbed the religious center from Oldtown to Kingslanding. Hightowers actually lost their religious status during his reign. Did he seem to side with the Hightowers? Then, Daena and Blackfyre descending from Jaehaera theory. But, these two civil wars were not relatable at all. The dance of the Dragons is about House targaryen's own heritage business. But the Blackfyre thing is more about the war bt secondary lords and the great houses, and a bit as an extension from the unbalanced benefit distribution after combining Dorne. Some previous green supporters supported Daeron, such as Lannisters . And is also normal for previous Black supporters to support Daemon. And let's look at what did Hightowers did during Blackfyre rebellion? They were not faithful allies to Blackfyres as they did to Greens. They hedged off to supported both sides as a speculator. They refused to march their men at the last decisive battle which lead to Blackfyre's fall. Then who's the most loyal House to support Blackfyre? Peake! They supported Blackfyre and got punished for every single rebellion they rised! Based on the Jaehaera-as-mother theory. I'd truly believe Myrielle Peake was the most reasonable mother to Aegon III's children. Last but not the least, Elaena had bastards with her "cousin" Alyn. Without the connection of her Velaryon mother Alyn would only be Elaena's uncle by marriage to Baela, which could not be called cousins as there's no true relation by blood.

My point is simply that do not try to justify one’s own favorism with weak reasoning. It’s perfectly fine to have Jaehaera-lives AU. Make your own child OCs. Taking other’s kids and twisted the truth won’t make favorism into fact.