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endearing-dalliance · 1 month ago
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She-Ra PoP vs Arcane S2
Physically disabled character considered inferior by his society, abandoned instead of being helped
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Technological genius who benefits from having a partner
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Uses technology to improve his health and quality of life
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Becomes fundamentally altered by a force outside his control (with Christian and cult references)
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And now here's where She-Ra and Arcane's messages diverge: Hordak is consistently supported and loved by his partner throughout his journey. She doesn't let up when he tries to hide his pain from her.
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She does NOT tell him that he is wrong to try to "fix" himself and actively helps him do so. She recognizes the validity of how he choses to deal with his condition, which was caused by genetic "imperfections" during the cloning process. But she impresses upon him that he does not deserve the physical pain or mental torment of being a "failure".
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Her message was that his imperfections do not limit him or define him. They are a part of life, part of the world, and a part of him, and he is not a failure for having them.
Meanwhile in Arcane, Jayce criticizes Viktor for "wanting to cure what he thought were weaknesses" and specifically mentions his leg and disease. The two things that brought him chronic pain, progressively deteriorating quality of life, and one would ultimately kill him. Also, Viktor never actually expressed that he was ashamed of them. We as the audience are left to assume that's how he feels, because why wouldn't he? What else would a disabled person feel? Not that he is perfectly aware that Piltover's oppression and exploitation of his people likely directly contributed to both those issues. Not that he values himself for his intellect and contributions to Hextech even though society constantly prioritized Jayce. Nope, obviously he feels so bad about it that he tries to turn all of humanity into robots. On top of that, Christian Linke has explicitly said the Hexcore corrupted him and Sky was a manifestation of it manipulating him. So even if he did feel that way before, he's still not at fault for what's been going on.
And I think a key part of this is the mindset of the team who created this show. Was this simply a poorly executed but positive sentiment, or a symptom of ableist bias from a team of 3 able-bodied people? We can harp on Jayce all we want, but ultimately someone designed him this way, and THIS is what I take issue with. Christian also says in the art book explicitly that Viktor fixing his leg and spine make him lose part of his humanity. If this is the logic behind Jayce's monologue, it is NOT positivity. It is a direct shaming of a disabled person's right to choose how they take care of themselves, said by a character who has already violated Viktor's autonomy and wishes, written by a team that equates self-improvement with inferior humanity.
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Amanda Overton has repeatedly mentioned she was inspired by She-Ra, which is pretty obvious here. Unfortunately, this isn't the unequivocally positive message she thinks it is, and she missed all the nuance of Entrapta and Hordak's conversations about it. A huge component of why it works in She-Ra is because Entrapta's wisdom comes from her understanding of her own "failures" and "imperfections" due to her autism, and Hordak reciprocates support throughout the show. One of the key members of her development team is an autistic person who provided a realistic view of what an autistic person can be like.
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This is two people who understand each other's pain uplifting each other, NOT Entrapta being Hordak's miraculous savior at the 11th hour. Having Jayce need a leg brace for like 5 minutes does not give him ability to understand Viktor's lifelong struggles that were also killing him.
For future seasons, I hope they bring on staff who actually have any idea what they are fucking talking about.
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elizamgarts · 17 days ago
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Starla
she is the daughter of Hordak and Entrapta
Starla is intelligent like her parents. She has long moving hair like her mother and the strength and traits of her father.
She is much closer to her father then mother, she still loves her mother but She has a strong bond to her father.
She always had a fascination with the stars, galaxies and gems.
She sits by her window naming every consolation and planet, on her spare time she collects rocks and gems.
Hordak taught her how to build machines and taught her the galaxy like how he taught Entrapta.
She is dedicated to her interests like her mother because of her audhd from her
parents (I headcannon both Hordak and Entrapta are autistic though Hordak's is mild it's still there )
Her backstory was she didn't have many friends at school but she found friends in the other children from the princesses.
She got picked on for being the daughter of a concour who hurt their world and because of the constant teasing her big sister Frosta right her how to fight.
She is very defensive when it comes to others insulting her parents especially her father, she knew what he did was wrong but that's the Hordak they know, the Hordak she knows is her father. She knows his soft side.
They don't know him so they don't understand but she knows him.
He's her father.
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spop-romanticizes-abuse · 7 months ago
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so i was rereading the transcript to Launch (the episode where the princesses are trying to locate glimmer) and i want to talk about two things i hated about this episode (apart from.. the obvious):
1. i don’t like that the crew’s idea of an autistic person is “has a special interest” and “doesn’t value human life”.
now i get it. neurodivergent people can have trouble reading the room or responding in a way that people expect us to. but we can still recognize a serious situation (especially one where someone is hurt or in need of help) when we see it.
entrapta has always been kind of absentminded, but i feel like in this episode, they made her act like too much of an airhead. she seems to be on the high-functioning end of the spectrum, so i don’t understand the point of making it seem like she can never take anything seriously. she’s rambling about science and space, she’s climbing over tents, knocking shit over, it’s just strange to add in “comedic” bits like this in an episode that’s supposed to be serious. in general, this episode was far too lighthearted than it had any right to be, but entrapta was the worst part of it.
i just feel like she’s portrayed as more of a silly caricature of an autistic person, rather than an actual autistic person. a lot of this is played for laughs as well like “haha look at entrapta, she’s such an idiot, she only cares about science!” and it just feels insulting. we’ve seen entrapta show concern and compassion before, albeit in her own way, like when hordak wasn’t feeling well. so why would she act like this in a situation where someone’s life is at stake?
my problem lies with the writers and not entrapta herself, because it seems like they pick and choose when to make entrapta more empathetic and relatable, and when to make her act like a robot who doesn’t value human life. it’s just weird.
(this is all based on my general knowledge about neurodivergent people and my own personal experience with autism, so if i said something wrong here, feel free to correct me!)
2. the princesses aren’t mad at entrapta because she joined the horde and built weapons that were used to hurt thousands of innocent people, no no no, they were mad that she betrayed them specifically.
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it’s all about “us”. not “our people” or “innocent civilians”, just.. “us”. because they’re the only ones affected by the ongoing war, right? everyone else on etheria is completely safe and sound, the princesses suffered the most because their ego was a bit damaged by what entrapta did. sure.
and let’s not forget this:
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fucking rich of perfuma to say that they’re supposed to be entrapta’s friends, when SHE’S the one who leashed entrapta and dehumanized her.
and this is the first and only time they mention the kingdoms. which, btw, i may be nitpicking but “destroyed kingdoms” is a very light way to put it. it makes it seem like the horde was just destroying lands and buildings and not, you know, killing or grievously harming very real people. and again, this is all about THEM in the end, they’re acting like the kingdoms were their property, and not a civilisation of real people with real lives.
it’s a subtle way to avoid addressing the real impact of war, because how would we redeem our beloved catra if we acknowledge that she probably slaughtered hundreds of innocent civilians who were just trying to live their lives?
(also i find it funny that the 12 year old is the only one who even attempts to acknowledge the civilians, while the “adults” of the group whine about themselves.)
i’ve said this a million times before but i just don’t understand the idea of writing about war, and then acting like it only affects the people who are fighting it. this was a show written by adults, right? i’m seriously beginning to question it.
and like i said in a previous post, they did not have to make a she-ra reboot. they did not have to write about war. no one forced them to. if you’re choosing to write about a specific topic in a show that is marketed to the general public, especially children, it is your duty to do your research on it and address it accordingly. you don’t even have to do research to understand that war impacts everyone, not just the oppressors and the royalty. that’s just common knowledge. or did these people skip their history classes?
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adorawasright · 10 months ago
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I especially hate that Catra was always invading Entrapta’s space. Like… It’s a teenager being weird and touchy and creepy towards an adult. Just imagine, reverse the ages, and tell me that doesn’t scream ‘predator’. Idk what the writers were thinking, but the fact that Catra is doing this a lot with an autistic adult really irks me. Are they implying something there? Because idk WHAT THE FUCK it’s implying, but I don’t like it and I feel like it’s intentional.
Anyway… Something something Catra is a teen being creepy to an adult. Something something predatory. Something something character ages. Something something treating autistic people like they’re oblivious, dumb, or younger children. You probably know what I’m trying to say here…
I agree, though I firmly believe that Entrapta was not initially planned to be an adult. I always thought she was the same age as the other characters due to her young appearance (like they didn't even try to make her look a little older?). I think the crew only decided to make Entrapta an adult later on so that shipping her with Hordak wouldn't be creepy.
But yeah, it doesn't help that an autistic adult woman is infantilized and bullied by literal teenagers. And rewatching Catra being inappropriate with her is also a HUGE red flag that is rarely called out.
Really, the problem with SPOP is that a lot of its issues seem to be poorly thought out. Catra and Adora being raised as sisters but ending up in a romantic relationship, when apparently they were always "the heart of the show". Catra being a WOC despite having no canon basis, and yet still being a stereotype that WOC (or latina women more specifically) are abusive and "savages". S/pinnetossa also being an "angry black woman x calm white woman" ship. Double Trouble, a canon trans/non-binary character, being a lizard that disguises as a little girl only to get money. Bow being the black best friend that gets little to no character development. So on and so forth.
I'm sure most of these issues weren't intentional, but that is not an excuse, because in the end it teaches wrong things to its young audience.
(Please do not harass the crew members.)
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spopsalt · 10 months ago
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Why were the princesses suddenly so mean to Entrapta in the first part of season 5? I mean, Entrapta wasn't always the most beloved by her fellow princesses, but it was unlike them to lash out at her. I get that things are tense and Horde Prime was gonna kill them all. But it is weird that Entrapta, the only autistic character in the show is the only one that gets blown up on like that. Especially when other princesses have their own bouts of unhelpfulness also.
Thank you! Don't get me wrong, she shouldn't of helped out the horde, but leashing her??? Scropia, Hordak, Shadow Weaver and Catra did much MUCH worse, but they got away with a slap on the wrist, (Nobody really trusts Shadow Weaver and Hordak had community service, but that's a pretty small price to pay for literal war crimes) meanwhile Entrapta got dehumanized!? What about Catra who literally killed Angella and attempted to end the whole world to spite Adora???
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Trigger warning for ideation…
Hi there! I just found your Tumblr while googling “Yellowjackets” and “ableism”, and I’m so glad I did. I’m a podcaster/Youtuber who covered Yellowjackets. My podcast was one of the most popular, always falling between the first and fourth spots in the charts. Unfortunately, I’ve experienced such severe ableism from the Yellowjackets fandom, that I
A) was diagnosed with PTSD from my experience
B) started getting regular panic attacks for the first time in my life.
C) tried to self-delete
D) had to step down from my podcast, while the pod that started the ableist harassment continues to gain from what they copied and stole from me.
Every day is a struggle for me to survive through this, so finding other spoonies who have been hurt by their fandom experiences is a huge deal to me. I’m glad I found you and I look forward to exploring your Tumblr further!
Kelly 💜💙💚🧡
Mod Tallys:
First of all, so glad this blog helps you. It helped for me too.
I am not in the Yellowjackets fandom, and only very vaguely know what is it about, but oh boy do I relate to the experience of being in an extremely ableist fandom to the point of harming my mental health.
Sadly don't really have any tips other than documenting all of the ableist harassment so that, as soon as the ableists try to gaslight you into thinking it wasn't that bad and it was not actually ableist, you have recites. And finding other disabled people in the fandom.
But I sadly still have not found a way to bring justice to the fandom, or even just make the majority understand just how harmful and bigoted this behavior is. I hate how always the most bigoted and abusive people get the biggest. If anyone has, please comment.
If it makes you feel lesser alone, I was and still am in the She-Ra and the Princesses of Power fandom, which always brags about being so progressive, so spoilers, they aren't. At all. Quite a lot of them are also ragingly biphobic, and quite a lot inhaled TERF ideology without any reflection, but that is another issue. (Now talking a lot about my own experience is not meant to take the focus off you, but rather as showing you that you are not alone with your experience).
This show has three canonically disabled characters, all villains (spoilers: Quite many of the crew are ableists too and refused to protect the disabled people in the fanbase, or even indirectly encouraged the harassment, even if they, too, also brag so often about how progressive they are).
One is, as much as I love that manipulative bastard, just about everything you can do wrong with face difference rep; a elf woman who had a dark magic spell she tried to do for the greater good backfire and caused her scars all over her body, she now wears a mask because she is intensely insecure about her scars, and she became first officer of the villains. But the other two are some of the best representation I ever saw - still big flaws, but compared to the garbage one usually sees - and they actually have a romance with each other. This was the first disabled4disabled romance I ever saw in any media I know, not just genre media.
They are Entrapta, an autistic woman with a knack for engineering and chaos, who defected to the villains because the good guys thought she was dead, but also really because how badly they treat her. And Hordak, a former clone slave with an unspecified but fairly explicit muscular atrophy and cardio-vascular issue, and also intense religious trauma. Yeah, he wears sci-fi armor to deal with that, which is not the best of tropes because of how far removed from reality for people with these disabilities this is, but also his self-hate and insecurities and how desperately he tries to hide his disability and how his slave master/cult leader but also even people in his own army abuse him for that... I can see myself in him so much.
And they not just bond about being the evil scientists of the evil army, but also about the ableism they faced, encouraging each other to get more confident about themselves, helping with things their disabilities make hard for them, and reassuring each other that they are worthy the way they are, flaws and disability and all. It is so touching.
Most of the fandom was, and to an extend, but most of the bullies got bored and moved on, furious about this. They tried to wrap it into social justice language, as they always do. This is pedophilia, Entrapta is a child/has the mind of a child/can't understand what she is doing. Hordak is a gross old man (because we all know all people with physical disabilities are all old people...), he is manipulating and abusing her. Ewww this is so cishet (Entrapta is canonically bi and Hordak literally wears a dress and makeup and was thrown out his cult, beside his disability, for choosing his own name, and their dynamic is very gender role subverting), Entrapta is actually aroace, shipping villains means you support colonialism... It was absolutely obvious this was about ableism, but if you called them out on this, they tried to gaslight you into "you are just to sensitive".
They constantly harassed the shippers, who almost exclusively are disabled and/or queer, also quite a few POC, to the point where seeing some ableist shit take happend daily, if I was lucky even several times a day. Faked callout posts for being a racist (liking Hordak, and fighting back against a bully who happens to be not white), a pedophile (shipping an adult autistic woman with an adult man), lesbiphobic (not focusing solely on the fan favorite lesbian ship), a colonizer (liking Hordak)... But they didn't even stop there, there are the ever present hate anons, but also deliberately triggering people, suicide baiting and death threats.
I hate admitting just how much this harmed me, because at least one of these bullies regularly stalked my blog - hope she has given up by now but honestly with that level of creep-ness I would not be surprised if she still does it - despite me blocking her, but this was just... so awful. Seeing how for most of the fandom, I should not have rights, I should not be able to choose for myself, I am not an actual human person, my sexuality is not valid but gross, I should not be in this fandom.
I feel bad that this gets to me this much, it is just online and it is just fandom - but it still hurts. Some days I only didn't left the fandom out of spite and because it is very unlikely I would find such good disabled for disabled rep again in the next time.
I definitely have trauma from this, and also from another ableist fandom that wasn't quite as obviously ableist, but it did swung by in the background, even if for me it luckily isn't quite PTSD.
Trauma from online harassment and fandom is valid. These experiences are real, no matter what the abusers and mainstream say about this.
I am so glad this blog exists to fight back and inform, or at least show disabled people in fandom that they are not alone. This is actually why I joined, despite being a bit worried about not having the spoons for this.
I am sure many of the other Mods have experiences like this too, feel free to chime in. Maybe you even have better strategies to deal with it.
Ah, I also made two (by now rather old) videos about this issue on my Youtube channel, because I was so enraged and desperate. They are just about the She-Ra fandom, but maybe they still help? Idk, feel free to ignore them if not interested or too triggering or something...
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(Second part has a bit of a bad intonation quality, but maybe the content still helps)
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sometipsygnostalgic · 2 years ago
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@quirrelli​ this requires no daring as it was the intention from the OUTSET, ive not yet seen a more fitting poll 
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So Catrapta is the funniest ship because i have a bunch of ideas for it and most of them have Catra being absolutely infuriated that she’s fallen in love with Entrapta, and even my works where they’re not a thing have them being so aggressively like a pair of cats together that people tag it #catrapta, they are... girlfriends-adjacent... 
Also it’s my two favourite characters so I smush them together like plushies...
However if we take things a bit more seriously then we can go in a couple of directions.
1. The super fluffy take that you usually see me drawing of two autistic catgirls in their final form, sensitivity understanding and solidarity between two former villains/weirdos/depends what au you are going for, OR  
2. An incredibly difficult and fucked up relationship more similar to the one we saw grow across the show. Imagine if they DID have a thing going on in season 1, and then they STILL had the onesided rivalry after Hordak was pulling his favouritism bullshit, and Catra STILL sent Entrapta to beast island. Imagine how much more heartbreaking that would be. The canon iteration is already shattering, with Catra being Entrapta’s first friend, and then we see the psychological impact that has on them both afterwards. 
I’ve toyed with AU ideas where we can use something similar in a more explicitly romantic (and less age ambiguous) context wherein Adora breaks up with Catra, who rebounds hard onto her new roommate/colleague who is like “wow this is fun” and then Entrapta’s more successful at work than Catra, who is falling apart, ends what they have and eventually kicks her out, and they both take it really badly.  
I don’t know, there’s something really inviting about the psychology behind that dynamic, Catra’s mentality in general when it comes to Entrapta and how broken she is by betraying her but how she KEEPS ON DOING SO, CONTINUOUSLY, because she can’t go back now or she’ll have to face that she was wrong about EVERYTHING....  and of course the dependence Entrapta would have on Catra as one of the only people she thought cared about her, only to get rejected in the most brutal way possible. 
Then afterwards how do you heal that? How do you fix that and, well, rebuild a new relationship? 
That’s kind of what Catra and Adora are about but I also love exploring that through Catra and Entrapta in their canon friendship, and I suppose in AUs. The only AU I’ve seen where they had a demiromantic relationship but the whole Beast Island thing still happened is “Prime Really Should’ve Known Better” by @nny11writes​ which is an alternate version of “Save the Cat”. 
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amalgamcorps · 5 months ago
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just saw something that said they wanted entrapta to be their wife (platonically) like girl im sorry my polyam wife is busy sucking and fucking lord hordak and me at the same time. can we stop reducing canonically autistic characters as being ooo sfw never has sex cant do anything wrong uwu it makes me want to CHOKE. LET AUTISTIC PEOPLE BE SLUTS!!! ENTRAPTA HAS CRAZY SWEATY FETISH SEX THAT LEAVES HER ABOUT TO PASS OUT ON TOP OF ME AND THATS A FACT!!!
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spacebatisluvd · 2 years ago
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I feel like one of Entrapta's skills, aside from being good with technology, is the ability to speedrun un-gaslighting someone. Basically, she takes someone who is a victim of gaslighting, convinces them that their memories were true all along, and gives them the courage to overcome their doubts and take action within less than a few hours. Her behavior (partly?) rebuilds the information and confidence that the gaslighting destroyed.
On a small scale, she does this with Scorpia. Catra said that Entrapta was a traitor who got what she deserved, but Emily had footage of what really happened that day, and of Entrapta being a good friend. On a larger, more disturbing scale, she does this with Wrong Hordak by showing him the ruins of Krytis and comforting him ("there, there...") when he starts to panic and cry.
In the first example, she is not physically present, and in the second example, you're supposed to laugh at the gaslighting victim and find him annoying (which is kinda yikes) so it is understandable that people do not notice this trait of hers, or find it to be heartwarming. But I noticed, and I wanted to share.
(Without Entrapta's help, Adora overcomes Shadow Weaver gaslighting her. But it takes a lot of interaction with the outside world, and a tremendous amount of courage, and a long, long time, so I think my point still stands).
I politely and respectfully disagree--not because I don't think Entrapta is an incredibly supportive friend! She is. It's a highlight for me that she is so strongly supportive of folks in crisis. Especially since scientific characters--or autistic characters, let's be real--are often reduced to the formula of "logic =\= empathy". Personally, I think empathy is (or can be) very logical. Even if you can't intuit what a person is feeling, you can use past experience to logically determine their most probable emotional responses to a situation. Low empathy does not mean "cruel" or "incapable of compassion".
So, I do fully agree that Entrapta does a marvelous job of supporting the people she cares about when they are confronted with horrible realities. But I don't want to rob those characters--Scorpia, Wrongie, Hordak--of their agency in those realizations.
They come to those conclusions themselves--often with outside assistance--and Entrapta supports them through those realizations. The support of someone they love/care about absolutely eases the process, and I love that Entrapta--a character who is often regarded as not being very empathetic--is the one to offer that support. But I cannot rob them of the work they do themselves to overcome that abuse.
I hope that makes sense, and I hope you don't take it personally. (...though I also suspect I may have taken you too literally here. Maybe you don't mean it's an actual "magic" ability, just praising that she's a supportive friend. Apologies if I misunderstood.)
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newwwwusername · 2 years ago
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Fanfic requests OPEN for SPOP
I am currently taking fanfic requests for the Netflix show "She Ra and the Princesses of Power" (not the 80's show)
I will write : - Hurt/comfort - Fluff - AUs - Canon divergence - Songfics - Sickfics - Any other trope (so long as it follows my rules) - Any headcanon (so long as it follows my rules) - Whatever ship you want (so long as it follows my rules)
I won’t write : - Smut or fetish fics - Pedophilia/incest (including adopted family, and including step-siblings)/beastiality ships (or anything like that) - OCs - Crossovers (including with the 80s show, He-Man, etc.) - Y/N - Explicit depictions of self-harm or suicide - Drowning (personal trigger of mine) - Werewolf AUs (werewolves are also a trigger of mine, although if your request is compelling enough, I might endure)
Other things to note : - I do not guarantee I will write every request I get. Sometimes requests will just not click with me, and sometimes I don’t feel qualified to fulfill it. I will try to write as many as I can, though - You can also submit any requests to this prompt meme on AO3 if that’s more your style : https://archiveofourown.org/collections/newwwwusernamerequests or to this Google form : https://forms.gle/3K7STap3v715Hidu5
The following is a list of ships and headcanons I particularly like. I’ll write anything, but I’m much more likely to write it if it has one or more of the following
Pairings (/ for romantic, & for platonic) : Catra/Adora, Hordak/Entrapta, Double Trouble/Sea Hawk, Sea Hawk/Mermista, Bow/Glimmer, Perfuma/Huntara, Glimmer/Catra, Kyle/Rogelio, Double Trouble/Peekablue, Catra & pretty much anyone, Double Trouble & Finn, Adora & Glimmer, Adora & Bow, Entrapta & Scorpia, Hordak & Adora, Hordak & Wrong Hordak, most gen pairings honestly, Jewelstar & Tallstar & Starla
Headcanons : Autistic!Catra, Sea Hawk has ADHD, Autistic!Hordak, Autistic!Wrong Hordak, Chronically Ill!Hordak (is that even a headcanon or is it just canon? either way, I like to write about it), everyone who was in the war got PTSD from it, Chronically Ill!Catra, FTM!Peekablue, Therapy Animal!Melog
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catras-breakup-song · 23 days ago
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I’VE BEEN SAYING THIS FR. honestly, i would get where critics are coming from with saying catra was forgiven too easily… if it had been any other show. i haven’t seen avatar (and i know everyone’s tired of these two being compared so often, usually for bad reasons unfortunately), but from what i gathered it made sense and was in-character for katara to not forgive zuko easily. (correct me if i’m wrong, though.)
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however in the case of scorpia, and also additionally entrapta, they’re just easy-going people who genuinely wanted to be around catra knowing her potential to have a big heart, which doesn’t come out of nowhere considering she had protected them both from hordak on separate occasions multiple times. that doesn’t mean they didn’t deserve better friendships & connections than pre-S5 catra, especially by excusing it with “they didn’t know better existed yet”, it just means that it’s an authentic decision on their part to forgive her by virtue of her actively improving social interactions. other people may or may not disagree that her arc was rushed in the bigger picture, but regardless it wasn’t a thoughtless move on the writers’ part to make those two willing to accept her back into their lives again.
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scorpia was aware that catra was a troubled, traumatized person, and truly wanted the best for her, and out of pure kindness and love & care for her friends, wanted to be there whenever her therapy might be needed. i’m glad her centered episode in season four portrayed the message that such benevolent souls don’t have to put up with poor treatment anymore just because healing needs to happen, but i really didn’t read it as “she’s all out of fucks to give and is done giving chances, so catra should be left to deal with her problems alone” (that’s simply not aligning with who she is at all) as much as “there is nothing she can do any longer and must move on to help others who will gladly receive it, but won’t entirely quit waiting on catra to be ready again in the future should that day ever arrive.” the difference in tone with those mindsets is significant and anyone who doesn’t see it is probably the one who actually doesn’t regard the struggles of someone who suffered abuse since childhood, then abandonment issues.
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entrapta, on the other hand, is a bit less complicated, but still sticks to the theme of a brief response being appropriate without undermining the weight of actions being apologized for. it would sound crazy if you were familiar with beast island but not entrapta, yet unironically i believe she was perfectly okay with being sent there, if not for the potential fact that there was a lack of notice + time to prepare. i’m not sure if she read it like the punishment it was intended to be, but in any other circumstance she likely would have been happy to go and explore, whether she was aware of how dangerous it was presumed to be already even by non-visitors or not. that being said, she is quite intelligent and beyond inventor skills, seems to have cartoon-logical skills with avoiding a threat if she simple doesn’t acknowledge it and moves around almost in a dance to avoid attacks she’s none-the-wiser to. hell, she had no problem walking right up to horde prime’s clones and chatting them up. the point is, it wouldn’t have made any sense for her reaction to catra’s emotional apology to be nonchalant; is that related to her being autistic, as someone who also is? maybe, and perhaps it does cause a lack of understanding to the situation that she deserves to have. either way though, it just didn’t appear to pain her at all like it would to another character.
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this doesn’t even get into adora and glimmer, so we’re still not done yet!
adora has known catra for both of their entire lives, and if scorpia tried to understand why catra acted out the way she did, then adora had an intimate-level recognition. it’s actually fascinating to think about how she finally cut catra off during an extreme event several episodes before scorpia did on just another random day, in a way. i appreciate that we did get to see adora stand up for herself and finally make that call once she’d had enough, because like i said, no one is obligated to dedicate their efforts to someone who won’t let them pay off, but it’s not difficult to piece together why it took so long despite the insistence upon refusal multiple times to co-operate and make things work — especially if you analyze their initial fallout correctly. it’s of my own opinion that, even if you somehow rooted for adora but not catra, the story would simply feel incomplete if adora had not chosen to immediately accept catra back into her life as soon as she chose the right path. it wasn’t blind-sighted either, as despite how much hope and excitement she had after glimmer’s rescue, we can still see for a brief moment on her face (look below) before being begged to stay on mara’s ship that she was willing to leave catra forever if stubbornness still prevailed… but that never proceeded, because catra finally, reluctantly, made the change she knew she had to.
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glimmer does come across as the most wasted potential to me, but really only because of one small scene i feel like the show lacks, which is the infamous concept of a discussion + acknowledgement of angella’s sacrifice that never took place. if i had been able to write that part in, i would have wanted to see glimmer express anguish, but be able to live with it rather than either act out in revenge or forget about it as two extremes on polar opposite sides of the spectrum. with her, an honest & healing one-on-one talk could have moved her along the grieving process greatly. to me that works well because glimmer & catra are known to be foil characters in the narrative, and it’s said that they hated each other so much because of how many similarities they saw in one another. it wouldn’t be far-fetched to claim that she would understand why catra felt so emboldened to pull the lever in her current mental state once it had been explained to her what she didn’t witness go down in the crimson waste after huntara took her away, since she knows exactly what it’s like to later on make an impulsive decision out of desperation. (plus i don’t think she’d really get it at the time anyway, considering she was so unfamiliar with what the big deal was with shadow weaver back in the first season and obviously didn’t see the issue with being in good terms with her residing in the same castle that adora lived in first.)
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super long post, but i wanted to provide my thoughts on this open discussion among the fandom!
scorpia never gaf about an apology ok
been wanting to point this out cause i still see a lotta hate on it - the traditional weepy apology from catra to scorpia would i guess be the normal way to go w things, but would only be done in a show where the creators dgaf about staying true to the characters.
scorpia was prob the most emotionally aware in the show, aside from her future wifey perfuma ofc, hence why they're so damn perfect together. the horde softie and the rebel sweetie- C'MON!
and w that empathy, she was always aware when catra was extra messed up and knew that it was cause. some. shit. went. down. and she was always tryna get it out of her, get catra to talk it out. the one time she really did ofc, catra ended up nearly suffocating cause that stupid lil imp overheard the whole confession about shadow weaver.
so nah, the likelihood of having any luck w that ever again - not looking so good after that.
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but even when she leaves, she acknowledges to emily - there's nothing she can do for catra. noting that something needs to be done - stating quite clearly that she recognizes catra is not ok but forcing herself to accept she can't help her. cause she is purest friendship friend of all time ok ILY SCORPIA
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and then being so distracted by shadow weaver's presence she initially spaces out on answering glimmer, who thinks she's ignoring her. seeing sw and basically having her curiosity about what was fcking w catra so much answered instantly. she realizes it immediately - and the looks on adora's face tell me that mf'er never even thought about it once. i get it though, it's not her fault cause def is a direct result of her own trauma, but adora slipped up bad on the effect sw being w her would have on catra and straight didn't even think of it for a full season, till scorpia said something.
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scorpia is the sweetest lil stingy stabby bb on etheria and i will throw down on that fr
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even after officially repping the rebellion - she doesn't wanna see catra hurt. cause let's be real, all she's ever really wanted for catra - even through the gush crushin times - was for that bitch to let herself be happy. the moments she saw of it were so few, but you can tell that's why she lights up when she does get to see it. not cause she's gooey over thinkin catra likes her back - cause she's just so stoked to see her happy.
BEST FCKING FRIENDO OF ALL TIME OK
ily scorpia
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beezoobledoodles · 2 years ago
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So the she ra finale of season 5 emotionally broke me.
I wasn't expecting to actually cru over shadow weaver. Yet. I did.
I never thought I'd cheer for hordaks return but I did. I love his friendship with entrapta so much.
Also wrong hordaks blep toward the middle of part 1 was very adorable. Hordak is much of the guy ever. Very 10/10
Shadow weavers face reveal!!! AGHHH!!! and her "catra. I'm proud of you" broke me into SOBS!! UGH!
Scorpia.
Catra is just every comedians wife ever and I love her so much. Her arc in the story puts a very special place in my heart I love her.
Double trouble is one of my favorite anti-villians. I LOVE their sass! I love everything about them!
Glimmers arc was pure and fun and I love her I love her relationship with frostia very much big sis vibes.
Speaking of frostia- I LOVE the sassy child (kinda reminds me of sody pop ifykyk) I love her taste for violence after the ball, I love her just so much, just the most child ever.
Mermista is amazing I love her attitude and the fact it's just: "yep. This is what we're doing today" her sass is unhinged.
Scorpia is amazing. I love her, I want more of her. She's so nice....I bet she Does Give great hugs.
Netossa and spinnerella were great side characters I love the fact they're canonically married!
Perfuma is adorable I love her peaceful energy and just. She's a mom friend for sure. Perfuma is the friend you go to when you need help deciding what to wear and that's amazing. I love her.
Bo. Bo is best boy. I love him. I will do anything for bo. Bo deserved absolutely every right to be the way he is. Good for him.
Adora...I wasn't expecting to really like adora but I do. I really REALLY do. I don't know why but I do.
I think out of qll the characters...I really feel the most with entrapta. Maybe it's because she's canonically autistic and the tism brain waves connected easier for me but I really do like entraptas character. I understood her the most.
The big fight between her, mermista, perfuma and frostia when they were first trying to get into primes ship....oof...I felt that...like...IN my soul...like I get it... feelings and emotions aren't easy for me and when I DO feel them...their big and loud and I can't help it. Seeing her interact with hordak...especially AFTER he gets..."reborn" kinda hurt cause that was technically her best friend... she was in the hoard for the promise of first ones tech and she made a friend along the way.
Although I do wish she and scorpia interacted more.
Anyway. I love this series and I wish there was more of it.
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spop-romanticizes-abuse · 1 year ago
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I’m a weird mix here. On one hand I HATE seeing how Entrapta is treated in canon. On the other, I kinda like that it shows that sometimes, when you’re autistic, not everyone will understand you and treat you right. That’s it’s not unheard of to be hurt by others for the simple reason on being different. It’s one of those ‘hard truth Aesops’. I say this, feeling like I was an outcast during the time when I was watching the show, as an autistic person who has felt left behind or was bullied for being on the outside. The issue for me though is this, the show didn’t poetry this behavior as unacceptable. If this were the old show, or any show with better writing, it would portray how others treated her for how it actually was. Bad. If they knew how to write, it would show Entrapta either cutting off ties with them for good and finding better friends, or the princesses actually learning from their mistakes and trying to be better. None of this ‘You’re still fucking weird, but at least you proved yourself useful this one time’ half assed apology. This is a show for children. This sort of ableism displayed by THE GOOD GUYS is not okay. God forbid, a kid sees this and thinks THAT’s how you’re supposed to treat others, and that Hordak being nice and understanding is the WRONG way since he’s THE VILLAIN. This could easily confuse an impressionable child.
yes, exactly! it is realistic in the sense that people actually mistreat autistic people irl but as a "children's cartoon" shouldn't it be sending a good message to children? "bully that weird nerd in your class because they probably deserve it" is not something you want to teach children.
the same goes for abuse. spop is eerily realistic in the representation of abuse but by having catra and adora get together by the end, without catra having to better herself at all, they're telling us that it's okay to abuse a person that you've seemingly "loved" for years.
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adorawasright · 1 year ago
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It's very strange to me as an actual autistic adult that c//a and SPOP stans will justify Catra's actions for being disabled (BPD or autistic mostly), despite her not actually being confirmed as such, but they'll find jokes related to an actual autistic adult being put on a leash
Like??? This is telling me that they're ableist without realizing it tbh
Yeah, like, I totally respect people who headcanon her as autistic and/or having BPD, especially if they personally relate to her... but it's also so hypocritical the way stans treat not only Entrapta but any other neurodivergent coded character. I've seen people headcanon Adora having ADHD (which I support!) but she's always seen as stupid and oblivious. Kyle is clearly not neurotypical IMO but he's never taken seriously either. Wrong Hordak then is a walking joke even though he's a victim of a cult.
Not to mention I've seen stans being ableist towards psychosis, even though that is a BPD symptom (and it's present in many other diagnoses!). Like sometimes I genuinely think some people who preach BPD Catra out there don't even have BPD. And something tells me they wouldn't even like real people with BPD lmao.
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Hordak from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power is a disabled biromantic demisexual transfeminine trans nonbinary multigenderfluid person who uses a cane and uses she/her, they/them, 🌒/🌒s, and star/stars pronouns, and she’s getting along with Horde Prime, a disabled intersex trans nonbinary questioning lesbian with schizophrenia who uses he/him, she/her, fae/faer, and sun/suns pronouns! Wrong Hordak is a transfeminine catgender nonbinary person who goes by Stella and she/her, they/them, and purr/purrs pronouns, and Entrapta is an autistic abromantic bisexual masc trans woman who uses he/him and ro/robot pronouns!
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notlittleclare · 5 years ago
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Day 3 of #PrideWithSheraShips
Clearly, organization is not my thing. School is kinda killing me and reality is kicking me on the floor. I quite liked the drawing actually
I found out recently that #entrapdak is one of people's favorite ships. Not gonna lie, when I was watching, and a romance was first implied, my reaction was the same as Mermista’s. “Are we all just okay with this?”. But after some more scenes, a few more episodes, some posts and it grew on me. They are really cute together and you can tell they really care about each other. Besides, it's a couple between an autistic character and a disabled character, with a common love for science. It's thanks to his love for Entrapta that Hordak can snap out of the prime's control, it's pretty lovely.
Also, I just wanted to highlight how amazing Hordak’s VA work was. He voiced Hordak, Horde Prime, Wrong Hordak, and all the clones, with each one being different, unique, and very distinct, and it's so well done that you can hardly tell it's the same person doing it.
“Your imperfections are beautiful!”
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