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She-Ra PoP vs Arcane S2
Physically disabled character considered inferior by his society, abandoned instead of being helped
Technological genius who benefits from having a partner
Uses technology to improve his health and quality of life
Becomes fundamentally altered by a force outside his control (with Christian and cult references)
And now here's where She-Ra and Arcane's messages diverge: Hordak is consistently supported and loved by his partner throughout his journey. She doesn't let up when he tries to hide his pain from her.
She does NOT tell him that he is wrong to try to "fix" himself and actively helps him do so. She recognizes the validity of how he choses to deal with his condition, which was caused by genetic "imperfections" during the cloning process. But she impresses upon him that he does not deserve the physical pain or mental torment of being a "failure".
Her message was that his imperfections do not limit him or define him. They are a part of life, part of the world, and a part of him, and he is not a failure for having them.
Meanwhile in Arcane, Jayce criticizes Viktor for "wanting to cure what he thought were weaknesses" and specifically mentions his leg and disease. The two things that brought him chronic pain, progressively deteriorating quality of life, and one would ultimately kill him. Also, Viktor never actually expressed that he was ashamed of them. We as the audience are left to assume that's how he feels, because why wouldn't he? What else would a disabled person feel? Not that he is perfectly aware that Piltover's oppression and exploitation of his people likely directly contributed to both those issues. Not that he values himself for his intellect and contributions to Hextech even though society constantly prioritized Jayce. Nope, obviously he feels so bad about it that he tries to turn all of humanity into robots. On top of that, Christian Linke has explicitly said the Hexcore corrupted him and Sky was a manifestation of it manipulating him. So even if he did feel that way before, he's still not at fault for what's been going on.
And I think a key part of this is the mindset of the team who created this show. Was this simply a poorly executed but positive sentiment, or a symptom of ableist bias from a team of 3 able-bodied people? We can harp on Jayce all we want, but ultimately someone designed him this way, and THIS is what I take issue with. Christian also says in the art book explicitly that Viktor fixing his leg and spine make him lose part of his humanity. If this is the logic behind Jayce's monologue, it is NOT positivity. It is a direct shaming of a disabled person's right to choose how they take care of themselves, said by a character who has already violated Viktor's autonomy and wishes, written by a team that equates self-improvement with inferior humanity.
Amanda Overton has repeatedly mentioned she was inspired by She-Ra, which is pretty obvious here. Unfortunately, this isn't the unequivocally positive message she thinks it is, and she missed all the nuance of Entrapta and Hordak's conversations about it. A huge component of why it works in She-Ra is because Entrapta's wisdom comes from her understanding of her own "failures" and "imperfections" due to her autism, and Hordak reciprocates support throughout the show. One of the key members of her development team is an autistic person who provided a realistic view of what an autistic person can be like.
This is two people who understand each other's pain uplifting each other, NOT Entrapta being Hordak's miraculous savior at the 11th hour. Having Jayce need a leg brace for like 5 minutes does not give him ability to understand Viktor's lifelong struggles that were also killing him.
For future seasons, I hope they bring on staff who actually have any idea what they are fucking talking about.
#arcane jayce#viktor arcane#arcane viktor#arcane s2#art of arcane#arcane#arcane criticism#arcane critical#arcane critique#she ra and the princesses of power#entrapdak#entrapta#hordak#ableism#toxic positivity#christian linke#amanda overton#alex yee#shame on you
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so i was rereading the transcript to Launch (the episode where the princesses are trying to locate glimmer) and i want to talk about two things i hated about this episode (apart from.. the obvious):
1. i donāt like that the crewās idea of an autistic person is āhas a special interestā and ādoesnāt value human lifeā.
now i get it. neurodivergent people can have trouble reading the room or responding in a way that people expect us to. but we can still recognize a serious situation (especially one where someone is hurt or in need of help) when we see it.
entrapta has always been kind of absentminded, but i feel like in this episode, they made her act like too much of an airhead. she seems to be on the high-functioning end of the spectrum, so i donāt understand the point of making it seem like she can never take anything seriously. sheās rambling about science and space, sheās climbing over tents, knocking shit over, itās just strange to add in ācomedicā bits like this in an episode thatās supposed to be serious. in general, this episode was far too lighthearted than it had any right to be, but entrapta was the worst part of it.
i just feel like sheās portrayed as more of a silly caricature of an autistic person, rather than an actual autistic person. a lot of this is played for laughs as well like āhaha look at entrapta, sheās such an idiot, she only cares about science!ā and it just feels insulting. weāve seen entrapta show concern and compassion before, albeit in her own way, like when hordak wasnāt feeling well. so why would she act like this in a situation where someoneās life is at stake?
my problem lies with the writers and not entrapta herself, because it seems like they pick and choose when to make entrapta more empathetic and relatable, and when to make her act like a robot who doesnāt value human life. itās just weird.
(this is all based on my general knowledge about neurodivergent people and my own personal experience with autism, so if i said something wrong here, feel free to correct me!)
2. the princesses arenāt mad at entrapta because she joined the horde and built weapons that were used to hurt thousands of innocent people, no no no, they were mad that she betrayed them specifically.
itās all about āusā. not āour peopleā or āinnocent civiliansā, just.. āusā. because theyāre the only ones affected by the ongoing war, right? everyone else on etheria is completely safe and sound, the princesses suffered the most because their ego was a bit damaged by what entrapta did. sure.
and letās not forget this:
fucking rich of perfuma to say that theyāre supposed to be entraptaās friends, when SHEāS the one who leashed entrapta and dehumanized her.
and this is the first and only time they mention the kingdoms. which, btw, i may be nitpicking but ādestroyed kingdomsā is a very light way to put it. it makes it seem like the horde was just destroying lands and buildings and not, you know, killing or grievously harming very real people. and again, this is all about THEM in the end, theyāre acting like the kingdoms were their property, and not a civilisation of real people with real lives.
itās a subtle way to avoid addressing the real impact of war, because how would we redeem our beloved catra if we acknowledge that she probably slaughtered hundreds of innocent civilians who were just trying to live their lives?
(also i find it funny that the 12 year old is the only one who even attempts to acknowledge the civilians, while the āadultsā of the group whine about themselves.)
iāve said this a million times before but i just donāt understand the idea of writing about war, and then acting like it only affects the people who are fighting it. this was a show written by adults, right? iām seriously beginning to question it.
and like i said in a previous post, they did not have to make a she-ra reboot. they did not have to write about war. no one forced them to. if youāre choosing to write about a specific topic in a show that is marketed to the general public, especially children, it is your duty to do your research on it and address it accordingly. you donāt even have to do research to understand that war impacts everyone, not just the oppressors and the royalty. thatās just common knowledge. or did these people skip their history classes?
#tw ableism mention#tw war mention#spop critical#spop salt#spop#spop discourse#spop criticism#she ra#anti spop
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I especially hate that Catra was always invading Entraptaās space. Likeā¦ Itās a teenager being weird and touchy and creepy towards an adult. Just imagine, reverse the ages, and tell me that doesnāt scream āpredatorā. Idk what the writers were thinking, but the fact that Catra is doing this a lot with an autistic adult really irks me. Are they implying something there? Because idk WHAT THE FUCK itās implying, but I donāt like it and I feel like itās intentional.
Anywayā¦ Something something Catra is a teen being creepy to an adult. Something something predatory. Something something character ages. Something something treating autistic people like theyāre oblivious, dumb, or younger children. You probably know what Iām trying to say hereā¦
I agree, though I firmly believe that Entrapta was not initially planned to be an adult. I always thought she was the same age as the other characters due to her young appearance (like they didn't even try to make her look a little older?). I think the crew only decided to make Entrapta an adult later on so that shipping her with Hordak wouldn't be creepy.
But yeah, it doesn't help that an autistic adult woman is infantilized and bullied by literal teenagers. And rewatching Catra being inappropriate with her is also a HUGE red flag that is rarely called out.
Really, the problem with SPOP is that a lot of its issues seem to be poorly thought out. Catra and Adora being raised as sisters but ending up in a romantic relationship, when apparently they were always "the heart of the show". Catra being a WOC despite having no canon basis, and yet still being a stereotype that WOC (or latina women more specifically) are abusive and "savages". S/pinnetossa also being an "angry black woman x calm white woman" ship. Double Trouble, a canon trans/non-binary character, being a lizard that disguises as a little girl only to get money. Bow being the black best friend that gets little to no character development. So on and so forth.
I'm sure most of these issues weren't intentional, but that is not an excuse, because in the end it teaches wrong things to its young audience.
(Please do not harass the crew members.)
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Why were the princesses suddenly so mean to Entrapta in the first part of season 5? I mean, Entrapta wasn't always the most beloved by her fellow princesses, but it was unlike them to lash out at her. I get that things are tense and Horde Prime was gonna kill them all. But it is weird that Entrapta, the only autistic character in the show is the only one that gets blown up on like that. Especially when other princesses have their own bouts of unhelpfulness also.
Thank you! Don't get me wrong, she shouldn't of helped out the horde, but leashing her??? Scropia, Hordak, Shadow Weaver and Catra did much MUCH worse, but they got away with a slap on the wrist, (Nobody really trusts Shadow Weaver and Hordak had community service, but that's a pretty small price to pay for literal war crimes) meanwhile Entrapta got dehumanized!? What about Catra who literally killed Angella and attempted to end the whole world to spite Adora???
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Trigger warning for ideationā¦
Hi there! I just found your Tumblr while googling āYellowjacketsā and āableismā, and Iām so glad I did. Iām a podcaster/Youtuber who covered Yellowjackets. My podcast was one of the most popular, always falling between the first and fourth spots in the charts. Unfortunately, Iāve experienced such severe ableism from the Yellowjackets fandom, that I
A) was diagnosed with PTSD from my experience
B) started getting regular panic attacks for the first time in my life.
C) tried to self-delete
D) had to step down from my podcast, while the pod that started the ableist harassment continues to gain from what they copied and stole from me.
Every day is a struggle for me to survive through this, so finding other spoonies who have been hurt by their fandom experiences is a huge deal to me. Iām glad I found you and I look forward to exploring your Tumblr further!
Kelly šššš§”
Mod Tallys:
First of all, so glad this blog helps you. It helped for me too.
I am not in the Yellowjackets fandom, and only very vaguely know what is it about, but oh boy do I relate to the experience of being in an extremely ableist fandom to the point of harming my mental health.
Sadly don't really have any tips other than documenting all of the ableist harassment so that, as soon as the ableists try to gaslight you into thinking it wasn't that bad and it was not actually ableist, you have recites. And finding other disabled people in the fandom.
But I sadly still have not found a way to bring justice to the fandom, or even just make the majority understand just how harmful and bigoted this behavior is. I hate how always the most bigoted and abusive people get the biggest. If anyone has, please comment.
If it makes you feel lesser alone, I was and still am in the She-Ra and the Princesses of Power fandom, which always brags about being so progressive, so spoilers, they aren't. At all. Quite a lot of them are also ragingly biphobic, and quite a lot inhaled TERF ideology without any reflection, but that is another issue. (Now talking a lot about my own experience is not meant to take the focus off you, but rather as showing you that you are not alone with your experience).
This show has three canonically disabled characters, all villains (spoilers: Quite many of the crew are ableists too and refused to protect the disabled people in the fanbase, or even indirectly encouraged the harassment, even if they, too, also brag so often about how progressive they are).
One is, as much as I love that manipulative bastard, just about everything you can do wrong with face difference rep; a elf woman who had a dark magic spell she tried to do for the greater good backfire and caused her scars all over her body, she now wears a mask because she is intensely insecure about her scars, and she became first officer of the villains. But the other two are some of the best representation I ever saw - still big flaws, but compared to the garbage one usually sees - and they actually have a romance with each other. This was the first disabled4disabled romance I ever saw in any media I know, not just genre media.
They are Entrapta, an autistic woman with a knack for engineering and chaos, who defected to the villains because the good guys thought she was dead, but also really because how badly they treat her. And Hordak, a former clone slave with an unspecified but fairly explicit muscular atrophy and cardio-vascular issue, and also intense religious trauma. Yeah, he wears sci-fi armor to deal with that, which is not the best of tropes because of how far removed from reality for people with these disabilities this is, but also his self-hate and insecurities and how desperately he tries to hide his disability and how his slave master/cult leader but also even people in his own army abuse him for that... I can see myself in him so much.
And they not just bond about being the evil scientists of the evil army, but also about the ableism they faced, encouraging each other to get more confident about themselves, helping with things their disabilities make hard for them, and reassuring each other that they are worthy the way they are, flaws and disability and all. It is so touching.
Most of the fandom was, and to an extend, but most of the bullies got bored and moved on, furious about this. They tried to wrap it into social justice language, as they always do. This is pedophilia, Entrapta is a child/has the mind of a child/can't understand what she is doing. Hordak is a gross old man (because we all know all people with physical disabilities are all old people...), he is manipulating and abusing her. Ewww this is so cishet (Entrapta is canonically bi and Hordak literally wears a dress and makeup and was thrown out his cult, beside his disability, for choosing his own name, and their dynamic is very gender role subverting), Entrapta is actually aroace, shipping villains means you support colonialism... It was absolutely obvious this was about ableism, but if you called them out on this, they tried to gaslight you into "you are just to sensitive".
They constantly harassed the shippers, who almost exclusively are disabled and/or queer, also quite a few POC, to the point where seeing some ableist shit take happend daily, if I was lucky even several times a day. Faked callout posts for being a racist (liking Hordak, and fighting back against a bully who happens to be not white), a pedophile (shipping an adult autistic woman with an adult man), lesbiphobic (not focusing solely on the fan favorite lesbian ship), a colonizer (liking Hordak)... But they didn't even stop there, there are the ever present hate anons, but also deliberately triggering people, suicide baiting and death threats.
I hate admitting just how much this harmed me, because at least one of these bullies regularly stalked my blog - hope she has given up by now but honestly with that level of creep-ness I would not be surprised if she still does it - despite me blocking her, but this was just... so awful. Seeing how for most of the fandom, I should not have rights, I should not be able to choose for myself, I am not an actual human person, my sexuality is not valid but gross, I should not be in this fandom.
I feel bad that this gets to me this much, it is just online and it is just fandom - but it still hurts. Some days I only didn't left the fandom out of spite and because it is very unlikely I would find such good disabled for disabled rep again in the next time.
I definitely have trauma from this, and also from another ableist fandom that wasn't quite as obviously ableist, but it did swung by in the background, even if for me it luckily isn't quite PTSD.
Trauma from online harassment and fandom is valid. These experiences are real, no matter what the abusers and mainstream say about this.
I am so glad this blog exists to fight back and inform, or at least show disabled people in fandom that they are not alone. This is actually why I joined, despite being a bit worried about not having the spoons for this.
I am sure many of the other Mods have experiences like this too, feel free to chime in. Maybe you even have better strategies to deal with it.
Ah, I also made two (by now rather old) videos about this issue on my Youtube channel, because I was so enraged and desperate. They are just about the She-Ra fandom, but maybe they still help? Idk, feel free to ignore them if not interested or too triggering or something...
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(Second part has a bit of a bad intonation quality, but maybe the content still helps)
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#ableism#fandom ableism#toxic fandom#Yellowjackets#She-Ra#Hordak#Entrapta#tw harassment#tw suicide baiting mentioned#tw death threats mentioned#tw suicide attempt#long post#mod Tallys
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@quirrelliā this requires no daring as it was the intention from the OUTSET, ive not yet seen a more fitting pollĀ
So Catrapta is the funniest ship because i have a bunch of ideas for it and most of them have Catra being absolutely infuriated that sheās fallen in love with Entrapta, and even my works where theyāre not a thing have them being so aggressively like a pair of cats together that people tag it #catrapta, they are... girlfriends-adjacent...Ā
Also itās my two favourite characters so I smush them together like plushies...
However if we take things a bit more seriously then we can go in a couple of directions.
1. The super fluffy take that you usually see me drawing of two autistic catgirls in their final form, sensitivity understanding and solidarity between two former villains/weirdos/depends what au you are going for, ORĀ Ā
2. An incredibly difficult and fucked up relationship more similar to the one we saw grow across the show. Imagine if they DID have a thing going on in season 1, and then they STILL had the onesided rivalry after Hordak was pulling his favouritism bullshit, and Catra STILL sent Entrapta to beast island. Imagine how much more heartbreaking that would be. The canon iteration is already shattering, with Catra being Entraptaās first friend, and then we see the psychological impact that has on them both afterwards.Ā
Iāve toyed with AU ideas where we can use something similar in a more explicitly romantic (and less age ambiguous) context wherein Adora breaks up with Catra, who rebounds hard onto her new roommate/colleague who is likeĀ āwow this is funā and then Entraptaās more successful at work than Catra, who is falling apart, ends what they have and eventually kicks her out, and they both take it really badly.Ā Ā
I donāt know, thereās something really inviting about the psychology behind that dynamic, Catraās mentality in general when it comes to Entrapta and how broken she is by betraying her but how she KEEPS ON DOING SO, CONTINUOUSLY, because she canāt go back now or sheāll have to face that she was wrong about EVERYTHING....Ā and of course the dependence Entrapta would have on Catra as one of the only people she thought cared about her, only to get rejected in the most brutal way possible.Ā
Then afterwards how do you heal that? How do you fix that and, well, rebuild a new relationship?Ā
Thatās kind of what Catra and Adora are about but I also love exploring that through Catra and Entrapta in their canon friendship, and I suppose in AUs. The only AU Iāve seen where they had a demiromantic relationship but the whole Beast Island thing still happened isĀ āPrime Really Shouldāve Known Betterā by @nny11writesā which is an alternate version ofĀ āSave the Catā.Ā
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just saw something that said they wanted entrapta to be their wife (platonically) like girl im sorry my polyam wife is busy sucking and fucking lord hordak and me at the same time. can we stop reducing canonically autistic characters as being ooo sfw never has sex cant do anything wrong uwu it makes me want to CHOKE. LET AUTISTIC PEOPLE BE SLUTS!!! ENTRAPTA HAS CRAZY SWEATY FETISH SEX THAT LEAVES HER ABOUT TO PASS OUT ON TOP OF ME AND THATS A FACT!!!
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I feel like one of Entrapta's skills, aside from being good with technology, is the ability to speedrun un-gaslighting someone. Basically, she takes someone who is a victim of gaslighting, convinces them that their memories were true all along, and gives them the courage to overcome their doubts and take action within less than a few hours. Her behavior (partly?) rebuilds the information and confidence that the gaslighting destroyed.
On a small scale, she does this with Scorpia. Catra said that Entrapta was a traitor who got what she deserved, but Emily had footage of what really happened that day, and of Entrapta being a good friend. On a larger, more disturbing scale, she does this with Wrong Hordak by showing him the ruins of Krytis and comforting him ("there, there...") when he starts to panic and cry.
In the first example, she is not physically present, and in the second example, you're supposed to laugh at the gaslighting victim and find him annoying (which is kinda yikes) so it is understandable that people do not notice this trait of hers, or find it to be heartwarming. But I noticed, and I wanted to share.
(Without Entrapta's help, Adora overcomes Shadow Weaver gaslighting her. But it takes a lot of interaction with the outside world, and a tremendous amount of courage, and a long, long time, so I think my point still stands).
I politely and respectfully disagree--not because I don't think Entrapta is an incredibly supportive friend! She is. It's a highlight for me that she is so strongly supportive of folks in crisis. Especially since scientific characters--or autistic characters, let's be real--are often reduced to the formula of "logic =\= empathy". Personally, I think empathy is (or can be) very logical. Even if you can't intuit what a person is feeling, you can use past experience to logically determine their most probable emotional responses to a situation. Low empathy does not mean "cruel" or "incapable of compassion".
So, I do fully agree that Entrapta does a marvelous job of supporting the people she cares about when they are confronted with horrible realities. But I don't want to rob those characters--Scorpia, Wrongie, Hordak--of their agency in those realizations.
They come to those conclusions themselves--often with outside assistance--and Entrapta supports them through those realizations. The support of someone they love/care about absolutely eases the process, and I love that Entrapta--a character who is often regarded as not being very empathetic--is the one to offer that support. But I cannot rob them of the work they do themselves to overcome that abuse.
I hope that makes sense, and I hope you don't take it personally. (...though I also suspect I may have taken you too literally here. Maybe you don't mean it's an actual "magic" ability, just praising that she's a supportive friend. Apologies if I misunderstood.)
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Ableism in the She-Ra reboot
Okay, so, I am not sure how many people talked about this, but not enough apparently. The new She-Ra, even with itās good LGBTQ+ represantation, characters with different body types and skin tones, and generally just an aura of acceptance is ableist and itās bugging me very much.
First of, Entrapta, sheās a character I saw myself in from the beginning. I donāt think there was that much wrong with her portrayal, but with how the show and characters treated her. She was constantly leashed by Perfuma like an unruly toddler, even tho she was the oldest, she was never liked, just tolerated for her skill, and every character was constantly annoyed by her. I saw myself in her so much, because thatās how people treated me all the time. This didnāt let me actually like any of the princesses because how could I, knowing that thatās how they would treat me? The only moment when Entrapta actually could do what she wanted without getting shunned is when she joined the villains. They might be funny, they might be nice, they might all get redemption arcs, but it doesnāt change the fact that the only characters in the show that accepted her autistic traits are the bad guys.
The show also treats her like she doesnāt understand the difference between good and evil, basically just making her a child that canāt distinguish roght from wrong, while autistic people struggle with empathy I am pretty sure that I wouldnāt join a side of criminals who burn down villages and kill innocent people, there is no way Entrapta wasnāt aware of that, EVERYBODY was talking about that conflict, and she just decided to help them make their killer robots. She should be just as held responsible for her actions as other characters, but she isnāt because she is autistic and let me tell you, double standards are harmful even for the people they benefit.
I am not physically disabled, so I am not really qualified to talk sbout Hordak but heās the main villain 80% of the series, while he gets redeemed it happens after he is magically cured of his disability, so do with that what you will.
Oh god, Kyle. This guy just makes me sad. Heās treated like a joke because his traits that are traits of autism and trauma, like motor difficulty, not reading social cues and problems with memory. He is constantly abused by his ,,friends,, and is implied to have a romantic relationship with one of them. Thatās just so wrong on so many levels.
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Fanfic requests OPEN for SPOP
I am currently taking fanfic requests for the Netflix show "She Ra and the Princesses of Power" (not the 80's show)
I will write : - Hurt/comfort - Fluff - AUs - Canon divergence - Songfics - Sickfics - Any other trope (so long as it follows my rules) - Any headcanon (so long as it follows my rules) - Whatever ship you want (so long as it follows my rules)
I wonāt write : - Smut or fetish fics - Pedophilia/incest (including adopted family, and including step-siblings)/beastiality ships (or anything like that) - OCs - Crossovers (including with the 80s show, He-Man, etc.) - Y/N - Explicit depictions of self-harm or suicide - Drowning (personal trigger of mine) - Werewolf AUs (werewolves are also a trigger of mine, although if your request is compelling enough, I might endure)
Other things to note : - I do not guarantee I will write every request I get. Sometimes requests will just not click with me, and sometimes I donāt feel qualified to fulfill it. I will try to write as many as I can, though - You can also submit any requests to this prompt meme on AO3 if thatās more your style : https://archiveofourown.org/collections/newwwwusernamerequests or to this Google form : https://forms.gle/3K7STap3v715Hidu5
The following is a list of ships and headcanons I particularly like. Iāll write anything, but Iām much more likely to write it if it has one or more of the following
Pairings (/ for romantic, & for platonic) : Catra/Adora, Hordak/Entrapta, Double Trouble/Sea Hawk, Sea Hawk/Mermista, Bow/Glimmer, Perfuma/Huntara, Glimmer/Catra, Kyle/Rogelio, Double Trouble/Peekablue, Catra & pretty much anyone, Double Trouble & Finn, Adora & Glimmer, Adora & Bow, Entrapta & Scorpia, Hordak & Adora, Hordak & Wrong Hordak, most gen pairings honestly, Jewelstar & Tallstar & Starla
Headcanons : Autistic!Catra, Sea Hawk has ADHD, Autistic!Hordak, Autistic!Wrong Hordak, Chronically Ill!Hordak (is that even a headcanon or is it just canon? either way, I like to write about it), everyone who was in the war got PTSD from it, Chronically Ill!Catra, FTM!Peekablue, Therapy Animal!Melog
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So the she ra finale of season 5 emotionally broke me.
I wasn't expecting to actually cru over shadow weaver. Yet. I did.
I never thought I'd cheer for hordaks return but I did. I love his friendship with entrapta so much.
Also wrong hordaks blep toward the middle of part 1 was very adorable. Hordak is much of the guy ever. Very 10/10
Shadow weavers face reveal!!! AGHHH!!! and her "catra. I'm proud of you" broke me into SOBS!! UGH!
Scorpia.
Catra is just every comedians wife ever and I love her so much. Her arc in the story puts a very special place in my heart I love her.
Double trouble is one of my favorite anti-villians. I LOVE their sass! I love everything about them!
Glimmers arc was pure and fun and I love her I love her relationship with frostia very much big sis vibes.
Speaking of frostia- I LOVE the sassy child (kinda reminds me of sody pop ifykyk) I love her taste for violence after the ball, I love her just so much, just the most child ever.
Mermista is amazing I love her attitude and the fact it's just: "yep. This is what we're doing today" her sass is unhinged.
Scorpia is amazing. I love her, I want more of her. She's so nice....I bet she Does Give great hugs.
Netossa and spinnerella were great side characters I love the fact they're canonically married!
Perfuma is adorable I love her peaceful energy and just. She's a mom friend for sure. Perfuma is the friend you go to when you need help deciding what to wear and that's amazing. I love her.
Bo. Bo is best boy. I love him. I will do anything for bo. Bo deserved absolutely every right to be the way he is. Good for him.
Adora...I wasn't expecting to really like adora but I do. I really REALLY do. I don't know why but I do.
I think out of qll the characters...I really feel the most with entrapta. Maybe it's because she's canonically autistic and the tism brain waves connected easier for me but I really do like entraptas character. I understood her the most.
The big fight between her, mermista, perfuma and frostia when they were first trying to get into primes ship....oof...I felt that...like...IN my soul...like I get it... feelings and emotions aren't easy for me and when I DO feel them...their big and loud and I can't help it. Seeing her interact with hordak...especially AFTER he gets..."reborn" kinda hurt cause that was technically her best friend... she was in the hoard for the promise of first ones tech and she made a friend along the way.
Although I do wish she and scorpia interacted more.
Anyway. I love this series and I wish there was more of it.
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Iām a weird mix here. On one hand I HATE seeing how Entrapta is treated in canon. On the other, I kinda like that it shows that sometimes, when youāre autistic, not everyone will understand you and treat you right. Thatās itās not unheard of to be hurt by others for the simple reason on being different. Itās one of those āhard truth Aesopsā. I say this, feeling like I was an outcast during the time when I was watching the show, as an autistic person who has felt left behind or was bullied for being on the outside. The issue for me though is this, the show didnāt poetry this behavior as unacceptable. If this were the old show, or any show with better writing, it would portray how others treated her for how it actually was. Bad. If they knew how to write, it would show Entrapta either cutting off ties with them for good and finding better friends, or the princesses actually learning from their mistakes and trying to be better. None of this āYouāre still fucking weird, but at least you proved yourself useful this one timeā half assed apology. This is a show for children. This sort of ableism displayed by THE GOOD GUYS is not okay. God forbid, a kid sees this and thinks THATās how youāre supposed to treat others, and that Hordak being nice and understanding is the WRONG way since heās THE VILLAIN. This could easily confuse an impressionable child.
yes, exactly! it is realistic in the sense that people actually mistreat autistic people irl but as a "children's cartoon" shouldn't it be sending a good message to children? "bully that weird nerd in your class because they probably deserve it" is not something you want to teach children.
the same goes for abuse. spop is eerily realistic in the representation of abuse but by having catra and adora get together by the end, without catra having to better herself at all, they're telling us that it's okay to abuse a person that you've seemingly "loved" for years.
#spop critical#spop#spop salt#spop discourse#spop criticism#she ra#anti catradora#anti catra#anti c//a#antic//a#anticatra#anticatradora
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It's very strange to me as an actual autistic adult that c//a and SPOP stans will justify Catra's actions for being disabled (BPD or autistic mostly), despite her not actually being confirmed as such, but they'll find jokes related to an actual autistic adult being put on a leash
Like??? This is telling me that they're ableist without realizing it tbh
Yeah, like, I totally respect people who headcanon her as autistic and/or having BPD, especially if they personally relate to her... but it's also so hypocritical the way stans treat not only Entrapta but any other neurodivergent coded character. I've seen people headcanon Adora having ADHD (which I support!) but she's always seen as stupid and oblivious. Kyle is clearly not neurotypical IMO but he's never taken seriously either. Wrong Hordak then is a walking joke even though he's a victim of a cult.
Not to mention I've seen stans being ableist towards psychosis, even though that is a BPD symptom (and it's present in many other diagnoses!). Like sometimes I genuinely think some people who preach BPD Catra out there don't even have BPD. And something tells me they wouldn't even like real people with BPD lmao.
#asks#spop critical#ableism tw#anti stans#i personally don't like bpd catra#bc it just reinforces the belief that all ppl with bpd are abusive#or 'dangerous'#like why are villains always the ones diagnosed with bpd or other personality disorders?#for instance i like bpd steven from su#but most of the time i only see ppl talking about bpd when it's about spinel#like i'm not saying you can't relate to villains#but i need more heroes with bpd dammit!!!!#ranting#ranting in tags
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Hordak from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power is a disabled biromantic demisexual transfeminine trans nonbinary multigenderfluid person who uses a cane and uses she/her, they/them, š/šs, and star/stars pronouns, and sheās getting along with Horde Prime, a disabled intersex trans nonbinary questioning lesbian with schizophrenia who uses he/him, she/her, fae/faer, and sun/suns pronouns! Wrong Hordak is a transfeminine catgender nonbinary person who goes by Stella and she/her, they/them, and purr/purrs pronouns, and Entrapta is an autistic abromantic bisexual masc trans woman who uses he/him and ro/robot pronouns!
#hordak#she-ra and the princesses of power#spop#disabled#biromantic#demisexual#transfeminine#trans#transgender#nonbinary#multigenderfluid#horde prime#intersex#questioning#lesbian#schizophrenia#wrong hordak#catgender#entrapta#autistic#abroromantic#abromantic#bisexual#masc#trans woman#mogai headcanon
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Im laughing because this is all very precious but like everyone is confused, so let me clarify Entrapta's canon autistic status:
Showrunner Nate Stevenson confirmed Entrapta as autistic after Season 5. He credited autistic storyboarder Sam Symanzski for doing so much work with Entrapta's *physical* mannerisms and for offering suggestions for writing her. Sam did not write her character, he drew her, because She-ra isn't a storyboard driven show. So most, if nkt all, of the people who wrote Entrapta identify as allistic. However I feel that a lot of research was done, because they nailed her very well as an autistic person. Despite these strengths, I think you can tell that the crew was heavily allistic because of stuff like the leash joke which somehow nobody thought was wrong...?!?!
Anyway Entrapta was always written as autistic and we have proof of this (outside of the writing itself) which is that her character description in the office always said she was autistic. This was photographed at some point while season 4 was in production (which was... before the show started airing, im sure).
Other people to credit are Ray Geigar, Entrapta's character designer who drew the oil stain which says a lot about her, and Josie Campbell, big fan of Entrapta and Hordak who wrote most of their episodes.
What makes Entrapta from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power the autistic girlie ever of all time? Here's what the people have to say:
- btw this isn't even all the submission notes, I can't physically fit them all on one slide. Entrapta-related asks/reblogs: x This post will be updated after each round!
Image ID in alt text and under the readmore.
[Image ID. White slide with a screenshot of Entrapta in the bottom right corner, she has her welding mask down and is surrounded by robots. There are also text boxes around her which read,
"im sure you already know this but she's canonically autistic!!! entrapta has trouble connecting with people, and is just really geeky and i love her <33"
"has trouble understanding social cues and prefers to keep to herself because of it. gets wrapped up in her special interest (mechanical engineering), etc!!!"
"she is sososososo autistic coded. I think it's been confirmed by a showrunner on twitter but not positive. techy girl with issues understanding people and only eats tiny food"
"It's canon baby"
"CANONICALLY AUTISTIC HELL YEAH"
"Her personality was literally modeled after a member of the crew that is autistic. She is canonically autistic"
"I think she is literally canonically autistic? Or at least the creators say she was written as such. She just really loves her machines and talking with people is hard and she "doesn't fit in" (code for autistic)"
"It's actually been confirmed by the showrunners for one. Second, her hyper-fixations are clear and more than just 'wacky quirky.' She is focused to the point of amoral behavior and a severely limited sense of self-preservation at times. The show even went so far as to address her feelings about all this near the finalƩ."
"Itās her everything. Also sheās not only word-of-god can only autistic, but she was based off an autistic woman (who I believe also did most of the writing for her.)"
"1) LOOK AT HER 2) she likes robots 3) doesnt get people 4) she's JUST like me fr"
"I saw someone say that this was confirmed canonically, but I'm unsure as to how true that is. It's been a while since I've watched the show, but I remember really liking Entrapta and connecting to her. I liked the scene where she said something along the lines of the "You actually want to her about my research?! :D!!! I've waited so long to talk about it!" Really relatable to how I feel about my special interests and my own infodumping. I can't think of more examples since it's been so long since I watched it, but she was really cool and definitely autistic!!!"
"Hyperfocus on her special interest, electronics. Only eats tiny food. Really bad at reading other peoples' intentions."
"She doesnāt get people but she gets tech and she just thought she could use tech to get people to like her but she just messed that up too AND I JUST LOVE HER SHES SO ME"
"Obsessed with robots, tiny food, writer on the show who help fleshed her out is autistic too and gave lots of pointers to the other writers on how to better portray her and her autism. A genuinely good character too"
"She hyperfixaes on technology, will info dump, has certain food preferences such as she can only eat little food, is not great at picking up social cues and also the writers confirm she was written to be Autistic."
"Everything about her <3"
"She struggles to befriend others and can only relate to the emotions and struggles of others via her special interest (robotics), she is consistently treated as other by the cast because she is "weird", and she misses out on social cues incredibly often throughout the show." End ID.]
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Day 3 of #PrideWithSheraShips
Clearly, organization is not my thing. School is kinda killing me and reality is kicking me on the floor. I quite liked the drawing actually
I found out recently that #entrapdak is one of people's favorite ships. Not gonna lie, when I was watching, and a romance was first implied, my reaction was the same as Mermistaās. āAre we all just okay with this?ā. But after some more scenes, a few more episodes, some posts and it grew on me. They are really cute together and you can tell they really care about each other. Besides, it's a couple between an autistic character and a disabled character, with a common love for science. It's thanks to his love for Entrapta that Hordak can snap out of the prime's control, it's pretty lovely.
Also, I just wanted to highlight how amazing Hordakās VA work was. He voiced Hordak, Horde Prime, Wrong Hordak, and all the clones, with each one being different, unique, and very distinct, and it's so well done that you can hardly tell it's the same person doing it.
āYour imperfections are beautiful!ā
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#sheraandthepricessofpower#shera finale#pride month#shera5#entrapta x hordak#entrapdak#autistic characters#disabled characters#science#lab partners#and they were lab partners#omg they were lab partners#thank you noelle#imperfection is beautiful#entrapdak day#entrapta#hordak#wrong hordak#horde prime#voice acting#good voice actors#tiny food#he remembered
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