#atopcat

[daeneryseastar]

givemelibertypleasw is focusing too much on show fanon, not what’s actually in the books.

Both Criston and Otto made wild accusations about her killing her siblings but Rhaenyra was ready to forgive them because she saw them as victims of Hightower ambition. She only turned on them AFTER Luke’s murder, not before.

People forget how damaging the tarnish of kinslaying is in Westerosi culture. Rhaenyra would never start her Queenship with this because it would make people turn against her.

Daemon’s shown to be a wild card in the show because the dumbass writers think passive women = feminism. In the books he’s Rhaenyra’s attack dog, he doesn’t kill without her direct order e.g. Vaemond Velaryon. So no, he wouldn’t kill her siblings because like I said kinslaying is political suicide and Rhaenyra made no indication she blames her siblings for her crown being usurped.

imo I think she would still be against kinslaying despite Luke’s death if Aemond had been punished, instead Aegon II threw him a feast. How else would a grieving mother react?

She wouldn’t kill them but she’s also smart enough to know keeping them around will have long term repercussions, especially for Jace. What I can see her do is have Daeron and Aemond sent to the Wall or to the Citadel to become Septons/Maesters that way they automatically lose their claim. She’d do the same to Jaehaerys and Maelor when they come of age. As for Aegon he would be put under house arrest, similar to what Baelor I had done to his three sisters. Helaena isn’t a threat by herself and Jaehaera could be easily married off to Joffrey.

Point is Rhaenyra had options when it came to her siblings that didn’t involve kinslaying. Options she would’ve gone through with if it wasn’t for Luke and Jace’s death and the Greens subsequent reaction to said deaths.

i don’t have anything to add, this right here is exactly it.

[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

Do you know of any articles/posts discussing the fact that the majority of shows with a diverse cast are primarily police dramas? Brooklyn 99, The Rookie, L.A.’s Finest etc.

Hmmmmm so on the one hand the television industry is a bit of a hellscape but honestly I would question this assertion like yes the correlation is frustrating but just because police shows often feature actors of color, doesn’t mean that most shows featuring POC are police shows. Like okay off the top of my head, here are a few:

Harlem on Prime

2. Run The Burbs

3. Quantum Leap

4. Abbott Elementary

5. Interview With The Vampire

Honorable mention to NBC’s Found starring Shanola Hampton, imo the show took a little bit to find it’s footing and it’s only not a police show on a technicality but the core cast has done a solid job in their first season and they got picked up for a second season, so I’ll recommend it on this list

Anyone reading this feel free to send in an ask to shout out your favorite show featuring a majority non-white cast and ideally not a police show, always happy to boost 📨

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p.s. for the folks who enjoy/prefer YouTube video essays, Skip Intro has put out a ton of work re copaganda in entertainment https://youtube.com/@SkipIntroYT

[feuilletoniste]

Girl over a thousand Jews were murdered in the worst antisemitic terror attack since the literal Shoah and you think saying “both sides are suffering” is propaganda instead of the truth... god you people are stupid as hell!

[pessimisticpigeonsworld]

“She doesn't want people so see how hypocritical, sexist (to her own gender no less), and just plain awful her character is and take the dislike out on her”

This post pretty much sums up the problem with Olivia’s take on Alicent:

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Olivia doesn’t like Alicent, she doesn’t like Team Green, she only wants to desperately cling to fan support so she can stay popular with the general audience. The truth of the matter is Rhaenyra fans make up the largest chunk of the HotD fandom, which means they also make up most of Rhaenicent. If Olivia can ensure Alicent is reduced to nothing more than Rhaenyra’s personal cheerleader instead of a well developed antagonist then Rhaenyra stans will fully embrace her.

Olivia’s ideal ending is where Alicent joins Team Black, she’s convinced herself that if Alicent abandons her family then fans will finally like her and that’s more important to her than having a well written character. As much as I respect the grift it bugs me to no end because she’s intentionally destroying the show in order to protect her palatable version of Rhaenicent.

Olivia Cooke seems to fall into the same trap as Alicent stans: loving the idea and aesthetic of Alicent rather than her actual character. They are enamored with the idea of a pretty victim of the patriarchy who just cries and plays the pawn, rather than Alicent herself. They don't want Alicent to be active in her life or make her own decisions because of who she is in the story.

Alicent is a woman who constantly upholds the patriarchy and tears down other women. She's not a good person and loses sympathy very quickly. Olivia and Alicent stans don't want to accept this, so they make up all these ideas about her to make themselves feel better about playing/liking her.

I really love @atopcat's takes on HOTD, they never miss. Olivia wants to be loved by the fans, and she seems to think the only way to get that is by playing a loved character. There are instances where people hate the actor because of the character, so I can't be too upset about that mindset. But actors who embrace their characters as being villains/antagonists show their skill and grasp on reality.

Olivia and the HOTD show runners are all trying to make a rhaenicent fanfic, but they have opposing ideas of how they want it to play out. Olivia doesn't want Alicent to take any responsibility for her actions because that would mean Alicent was doing shitty things for the whole season. I will say, at least she isn't saying Rhaenyra was actually the monster all along like Alicent stans, so there's that.

[houseofpendragons]

New Ideas for HOTD Rhaenyra Fashion pt.7

First time I’m doing one of adult Rhaenyra’s costumes, and we’re starting off with the one I hateeee the most of all:

I just, it’s so-it’s so, wtf is this shit?!?!?

I get it’s a sort of call back go her of outfits when she was younger but bruh😶 you’re telling me this is what she chose. Even her younger outfits were better than that. And I get it, I get it, it’s supposed to be maternity wear but reminder that this:

Is what Alicent wore when pregnant with Helaena. And this is what Rhaenyra wore right after the birth:

Both are hella fire, stunning. The dress Rhaenyra’s wearing is very Velaryon esque, slowly, loose, a sort of beached of Greece type beauty. Now she can still wear Targaryen colors, but she can also still have some representation of her Velaryon marriage (as we really tryna post a happy front so no one thinks about daddy Harwin😘)

So I think she’s still be wearing something similar, but perhaps representing both family’s. This being an under dress:

With it blue threading running through the red it could easily be designed a scales.

I’d also add an open fronted petticoat so that she could keep her arms warm and protect her belly or breasts if she feels the need as a woman whom has freshly given birth.

I’d use these three for design reference:

Taking the pattern from the red gown, the design of the green gown w/ the white designs, and then the golden medallion chains binding them together from the third design.

I’d change the color of the petticoat to a Targaryen black, and trade the white designs for gold ones more similar to the ones we on her blue dress. As you can see the zigzagging in the first picture of the three is reminiscent of the blue threads on the red dress meant to be worn under so honestly those could just be changed to gold. Keeping the golden belt with the rubies in the second picture, I’d disregard the highest neck piece with the laces in the front. I’d keep the spacing of the open front in the third picture, turning the bands of the front to match the fabric of the underdress. The gold on either side of the bands could be formed into dragons heads (perhaps reminiscent of Syrax’s head if ur feeling fancy). Lastly, I think I would make the inside fabric of the petticoat a velaryon blue, replacing the yellowish color we see on the interior of the dress in the third picture.

Sorry if that was confusing, I might’ve got a little too descriptive to show you what going on in my mind 😭

As for her Jewelry, I just saw a Reddit post made before hotd came out about the color of Joffrey and Jace’s dragons. They were actually correct for the most part about Vermax (Jace’s dragon) so I have faith in their theory that Tyraxes (Joffrey’s dragon) is red & black or something similar.

(If you want to read their theory about how the colors of the dragons belonging to Rhaenyra’s first three sons reflect the Conquerors original three dragons and Dany’s three dragons check it out on Reddit u/OneirosDrakontos)

That being said I’d want to reflect his hatchling, or at least egg on her jewelry. (Bc I also saw someone say Rhaenyra wears a ring for everyone of her three sons @atopcat) Maybe it’d be cute if she did something to reflect their future dragons after their birth with her jewelry as well.

Red and black for Tyraxes, gold for the ring she wears for him:

Her hair is more of a simpler extent, as I feel like though time hasn’t calmed down her fashionista tastes to an extreme extent, she’s more concerned about her newborn baby than her hair right now.

Something like this, but instead make it a half-do w/ hair still hanging free from any binds/braids:

Replace the pink ribbon and bow with two Velaryon Blue colored bands with gold design embroidered onto it, golden thread braided at the edges of the fabric. Perhaps the bow could be replaced with a golden three headed dragon pin stick through the braid so it appears as if mini dragons heads are roaring at those walking behind her.

[alicentflorent]

I saw this and it reminded me why Alicent stans hate Rhaenicent:

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Do you have any idea how many posts flooded the Alicent tag with this poem? @atopcat even did a rant about it

The funny thing is I have yet to see a Rhaenicent make the same post about Rhaenyra. Why is it that they can only envision a world where Rhaenyra gets Harwin and their sons but Alicent should be content simply being with Rhaenyra and having no one else?

Why does everything revolve around Rhaenyra's happiness?

Yes I’ve noticed how often this quote has been used for Alicent. Even back in season one.

It dismisses the point of alicents story. Yes her children might be a product of rape and she might not have maternal instincts after having children so young and not out of choice but her children exist and despite everything she loves them. They were all she had. I feel like Cersei’s quote to Sansa “Love no one but your children. On that front, a mother has no choice.” Applies more accurately to Alicent than “her children should just not exist”

These shippers think Alicent would be happy if only she got to be with Rhaenyra and like you said, Rhaenyra also gets to have children with Harwin because she is a good and worthy mother and her children are good kids that should still exist unlike Alicent’s kids who are messed up because of their upbringing. No one ever brings up the fact that teenage Rhaenyra specifically did not want kids and only had her first because she needed an heir to secure her claim.

Only Alicent has to be content with being Rhaenyra’s lover, with no other lovers, no children of her own and usually no goals of her own while Rhaenyra is allowed to become queen and have her children and another lover etc.

[royal-confessions]

“"Kamala Harris is the Meghan Markle of American politics" Why exactly? Because they're uppity biracial women who don't know their place?” - Submitted by atopcat

[lizzie-queenofmeigas]

Don’t know if you saw the post by @atopcat but they made a really interesting point about JL&J’s legitimacy: you can’t actually prove they’re bastards.

All of Team Green’s arguments can easily be disproven e.g. dark hair is a recessive Baratheon/Arryn gene, baby pug nose is because they’re only 6, 5 and 3, they’ve hatched dragons despite Greens insisting they can’t also.

Even in the show they’re technically only a 1/4 black, so they’d look like Wentworth Miller or Troian Bellisario both of whom are white passing. Thus it’s not completely out of pocket that Rhaenyra would have light skinned children.

Yes, there is really no way to prove they aren't Laenor's. Laenor says they are his and no one can prove otherwise.

[nrilliree]

I think this post pretty much sums up the problem with Rhaenicent:

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There are three different types of Rhaenicents:

Fans who are convinced both women are nothing more than 24/7 victims. Alicent and Rhaenyra have no personality, no agency and no emotion, all they want is to abandon their kids for each other.

Rhaenyra stans who don’t give two craps about Alicent.

Alicent stans who don’t give two craps about Rhaenyra.

I definitely agree with this person on this and their post. Very good summary.

[pattarainn]

I was tagged by @mar-nu-falmar oh dear, hello!

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[daeneryseastar]

I’m actually sad they changed Rhaenyra’s banner ☹️

The original is more personal and tells us a lot about Rhaenyra as a person.

Arryn because she loves her mother, Aemma was just as important as Viserys and Rhaenyra never forgot her.

Valeryon to honour Laenor, they may not have been in love but he protected her and their boys and she’ll never forget that.

i am too honestly! like sure, is it very aesthetically pleasing? of course not, but just as you said it bore her deep meaning. i guess they’ve decided to flip it in the show, and while i think the traditional targaryen banner does show her as ‘in the right’ i guess (which at this point the writers probably think the general audience is too stupid to understand the meaning behind her og banner or just that they’re too focused on ‘prettiness’). i’m not surprised it was changed, just very disappointed. rhaenyra chose to respect her family whilst fighting for her throne, while aegon centered his cause around his dragon. i think it’s very telling of each of their characters.

[spacerockfloater]

In regard to your Jace vs. Daemon post I saw this posted by a Daemon stan of all people: tumblr(.)com/atopcat/740941470738120704/interesting-take-usually-its-daemon-antis-who

It took me by surprise because normally it’s Greens who point out Daemon wanted his sons on the throne whilst Blacks are screaming that can’t possibly be true because JL&J are sooooo perfect and sooooo wonderful he loves them more than his actual kids.

Looking further into it, Jace v. Daemon seems to be a huge source of contention in the TB fandom. On one side you have obsessive Rhaenyra stans who have deluded themselves into believing Jacaerys Waters (his actual name btw) is gods gift to man and can do no wrong, everyone worships the ground he walks on including his stepfather because he’s that amazing. On the other side we have Daemon stans who cannot stand the fact Harwin Strong’s bastards would’ve sat on the throne if the events of the civil war never happened.

I’m not gonna lie, I feel like people are DESPERATE because it’s absolutely insane to me that Jace has this fairly large fanbase.

Like, why???? He doesn’t do anything??? He immediately dies during his first battle??? Someone please enlighten me as to why Jace has become so interesting to us all of a sudden.

Regarding your original point, you’re so right because people who claim that Daemon would never hurt Rhae’s bastards are delusional. This man would kill them asap. All of his descendants turn against one another. Be so for real rn.

[korra-of-the-watertribe]

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Take this survey to let me know who you’d like to see in this year’s post!  Choose as many as options as you’d like, write-ins are also welcome!  It’s pretty US-centric since I’m American, but I always welcome suggestions from all over the world!

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[dragonworshippersblog]

Rhaenicent sucks.

like or reblog to support Op for being correct.

https://www.tumblr.com/atopcat/715843339241603072/rhaenerya-and-alicent-being-friends-takes-their?source=share

I've read this post, i can't agree more

[mejcinta]

No one hates Olivia omg, but people can criticize her interviews, this post put it very well

https:// www.tumblr.com/atopcat/737404919685988352/i-really-liked-your-post-about-rhaenicent-what-do?source=share

Exactly. 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

Has anyone seen the Golden Globe nominations? I'm really put off that a CW-esque show 'Emily in Paris' would get 2 nominations, whilst the amazing 'I May Destroy You' didn't get anything. Also The Crown got 6, but whose surprised there?

ugh I’m sorry for the delay but when I saw this I just went straight into denial!

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