#astarion theories

[preciouslittle-bhaalbabe]

So it's understood that the first time Astarion feeds on tav, it is intimate. Not necessarily sexual, but there's a closeness that needs to happen. Tav has to trust him with their life. As their relationship progresses, I wonder if how he feeds changes. The first time he is gentle of course, even cradling tavs head and making them as comfortable as he can. But he still just bites and moves on. But maybe, as time passes, he finds himself stroking tavs hair or rubbing his thumb along their cheek while he feeds. Or taking his time so he can hold them for a while longer. Maybe that's one of the things that makes him realise how hard he's falling for them.

[muhomorovna]

the real question is does he become drunk when there is alcohol in the blood

[down4acount]

As the pain sweeps through, makes no sense for you, every thrill is gone, wasn’t too much fun at all - but I’ll be there for you - As the world falls down 🫶

[littleskrib]

"My face is just some dark shape in my past. Another thing I've lost" |250124

[numberonetrashwitch]

Some observations about Baldurs Gate 3 that hit too close to home.

After another few runs i will probably just make an in-Depth Character Analysis for every character simply because they are good reflections of actual trauma-manifestations and how abuse can manifest in people. They are also so well written that it serves a narrative purpose to explore all the material that is out there about them. I am also personally cursed with actual medically-relevant levels of Empathy and Hyperfixation; so writing this helps me put a pin in it and move on.

But so far here are my highlights

(SPOILERS and obviously content warning bc these are deep)

before you ask; i have almost 300h in this game.

You have to convince Shadowheart to eat the Noblestalk. She actually stells you she rather get her memories back from Shar but when you hit the persuasion or intimidation (what the fuck) check to get her to eat it she'll tell you about her childhood friend. Not her name, not her parents but her best firend. Possibly because she has had a closer bond to that person after being abducted and indoctrinated. With her believing herself to be an orphan, she would've looked elsewhere for comfort and sought out her own family, this is why she falls hard and heavy for Shar and builds the backbone of her indoctrination. She is literally ripped out of her home & given a new identity to server her from all she has known. Religious indoctrination, Gaslighting, Abduction, being forced to let go of your personality are her main themes.

There is a scene out there floating around in which you see Astarions pespective of the night when he bites Tav for the first time, in his meditations he is confronted with the rules Cazador put on him, including that he can't eat intelligent creatures, can't be away from Cazador unless allowed to, has to obey every command and that they are should know that they are property. Which in turn means that Astarion literally didn't just have any autonomy, he was objectified (and not just through seductive/sexual measures) and that is really the crux to understanding why he doesn't believe in kindness, but rather shows self-serving behavior in most cases. Since we know that Astarion was extremely young for an elf before he died and became immortal (literally stopping the aging /maturing process) it is also very telling that Cazador constantly calls him brat, boy or other very juvanile names, refering to them as a family... well it is also the story of a very controlling parent. Themes of (Bodily) autonomy, infantilization ( & puer aeternus, forever-child), slavery, depersonalisation, corruption of life and torture to break someone.

Gale isn't just a guy hung up on his Ex, but also a victim of abuse. In this case a power imbalance none of us can fathom; She is described as being a jealous goddess and rules over the domain of mysteries and magic. So with Gale being a Wizard, she is literally his boss. He admits that he was foolish enough to aspire to be an equal to her, but she is so jealous that she tells him he can't really be worthy as long as he takes breath. She could just take his powers away and be done with it, that would be more than enough punishment for a guy who literally made Mystra and her domain his life's purpose, but she rather makes him do it himself. Add to that, that she literally only tells him this after years of self-isolation (after he put down so many wards that he could've blown up a whole army as he says if you click the right dialogue) to really fuck him up well. He also talks about death pretty much constantly, not surprising giving your situation, but he will tell you that he will kill himself at several points in the game, for instance after he comes clear about his nethrese orb. Themes of romantic abuse, power-imbalance, toxic work enviorment, self-isolating behavior, suicidal ideation

Wyll ... well from the looks of it he is the most well adjusted of all the companions (my opinion) but he has something that i'd describe as the "eldest daughter"-syndrome, more commonly known as parentification. This pattern usually occurs within single-household parents and is commonly described as a parent looking to their child for emotional or practical support, rather than providing it to their kid. We meet Ulder and see that he talks over Wyll a lot, not listening but expecting him to follow the standard he sets for him. That is also why Wyll repeats his fathers words like gospel (because this is what, in his mind, fullfills the expectations bestowed upon him) and why he loves fairytales / bard tales so much (because they are an ecapist view of the job he set out to do) Ulder literally exiled his teenage son because Wyll did the only thing he could to save an entire city, by sacrificing himself. Thats a lot to expect from a 17 year old - even more so, he doesn't stop with the heroics. He expects himself, as a human who hasn't even reached the age of 30 to hold up to mystical creatures such as Astarion or Karlach, or even Gale who is a accomplished Wizard. Themes of parentification, escapism, self-harming through putting himself in danger, chronic-self-sacrifice

In plain words; Gortash, Karlach's Idol sold her to a Devil. But add to that that she must have been pretty young when she was sold (late teens to early twenties possibly) and being that if you play as a Tiefling, you face a lot of predjudice she was likely forced into that position as well. Starstruck she was, with a juvenile naitivy that Gortash used. Appropriately, as he is the chosen of Bane the god of "tyrannical oppression, terror, and hate, known across Faerûn as the face of pure evil through malevolent despotism" (Source: Forgotten-Realms Wiki / Bane) So she pretty much was raised in a toxic enviorment, which forced her to become a killing-machine, first figuretively, then with the extraction of her heart, literally. Themes of slavery, oppression, misuse of trust, being taken advantage by a more powerful/older(?) person, being drafted.

Jaheira - to be honest, you need to know the lore of the previous baldurs gate games or just listen to her dialouge, ask her all the questions. She is a war-veteran against Bhaal, the good of ritual murder, and has a long history of fighting to achieve some sort of balance of power. She lost her husband and several close people all to this, or any other war, but due to her wisdom and strength people look to her for guidance. Themes of: Survivors Guilt.

Halsin - he is really closed off at first but then just casually hits you with "i was captured in the underdark and spent 3 years chained to a bedroom wall by a pair of drows who used me as they pleased". He is reprimanded by some of his druids for leaving the grove as soon as opportunity struck, just to get back and leave the next day, and if you talk to him about his position in the grove he is actually very forthcomming. He actively holds himself back; indulging in simple hobbies because he knows what lies within his heart. He is afraid of himself and his potential (canonnically he can't control his wildshape, which is very weird for an ARCH-druid) Themes of: impostor syndrome, avoidant-based self-harm, sexual opression, loss of control, emotional regulation.

Lae'zel is a very tragic case, and one that closely resembles the stories of Shadowheart and Karlach. Her entire existence is based upon a matriachial war society allowing her to live if she proves she can be of use and that in a culture which only values brutality, dominance & service. All of that culimating in her finding out that her oh-so-beloved Queen is actually just an imposter, and that everything she has lived for up to that point is merely political propaganda created to make her, and the rest of her entire species, willing pawns in a war that has no longer bearing on their survival alone, but is fought to justify Vlaakith's (the reigning monarchs) personal ambitions. Not only is she forced to reconcile that she is turned into the thing that controlled her kind for hundreds of years, that the only cure she knows of would kill her and then on top of that, that her hopes and dreams were lies and that she is now the Nr 1 enemy of the person she has served with all her being. themes of: oppression, propaganda, casual violence, objectification, child-warfare, eternal warfare

Minthara in short, her story is about being shamed for growing up in the same scenario that Lae'zel grew up in. Lolth, the god of the Lolth-sworn drows is a crazy queen who values scheming & backstabbing so much and is so volatile that you can't know what to expect of your deeds (and i mean it; there were people who were appraised by her for scheming against her, but also those who were killed. It's almost random.) She considers Lolth to be cruel and abandoned her for the Absolute, only to then be used and abused the same way Lae'zel has. Not with promises, but erasing her memory and exposing her perceived weakness. Themes of: casual violence, violent culture, her own ambition colliding with her desire to be safe, being a pawn in a larger game.

[oh-my-damn]

Sleepy Orange

Pairing: Astarion x Female!Tav/reader

Summary: You come back from a fight exhausted beyond belief. Astarion does his best to take care of you. Part of that includes peeling your orange.

Wordcount: 1300

Warnings: None. Pure, unadulterated fluff. A happy, sappy, in love Astarion (just as he deserves to always be)

Masterlist

You huffed as your tired body plopped down on the bed in your tent, a groan spilling out when you land on the many pillows adorning it.

Your head lolls back as your eyes droop closed, every muscle in your body aching from your escapades today.

It had been a long one. A long and rough one. It felt like you'd been fighting for days when you finally came out victorious, but the price of winning meant that you'd been covered in blood and bruises.

One long bath later, you were finally back in your tent, lit candles scattered about, jewel-shade pillows in velvety fabrics adorning the space.

Your living accommodations had certainly become more colorful and frivolous ever since you and Astarion had decided to shack up together.

It had been an accident, at first. Your relationship had it's ups and downs, but after defeating Cazador, he finally told you how he felt. He laid himself bare for you, not just his body but his soul as well, and your heart soared at the idea that the man you fell for so recklessly finally loved you back. Even with everything the two of you had gone through.

Eventually, it came to a point where the two of you would spend every night in each others arms, either in your own tent or his. So naturally, you came to the conclusion that it would be easier if you just shared one tent. Together.

It had taken a period of adjustment, at first, but it didn't take long for both of you to find a home in your newly shared accommodations. For Astarion, an important part of his living space was that it be elegant, and comfortable – at least whatever comfortable meant to his standards. For you, it felt more lavish than anything, but after a while you started to find your own comfort in merely the thought that he loved the space. You found comfort in the thought that he felt at home, considering it had been so long since he'd felt that way.

You and Astarion aside, however, your work was still cut out for you on the fighting front. Defeating Cazador was nowhere near the end for you, even despite of Astarion now being a free – albeit still spawn – vampire, your main quest remained the same, and you were still fighting day to day to make it happen. Which is why you're currently camped out on the outskirts of Baldur's Gate, planning your next move.

Unfortunately for you and your companions, your presence in Baldur's Gate didn't exactly please everyone, which is why a group of mercenaries had cornered you earlier, prepared for a fight. They got one, but victory didn't come easily, which is why you're now achingly sore to the point of almost crying.

Your bones ache, so do your muscles, and your stomach feels empty beyond what could possibly be deemed healthy, but you're simply too tired to make any food.

You almost manage to drift off right there, in just your casual outfit on top of piles of velvet pillows, when you hear soft steps approaching, entering your tent.

You already know who it is just by the sound of his steps, how silent they are; you can tell that the only reason there's a sound at all is for your benefit, to alert you of his presence.

When he speaks, his voice is soft, laced with worry, a gentle whisper that caresses your mind, lulling you gently.

"Darling. Please tell me you're not dead."

A tired smile works its way onto your face, but your eyes remain closed as you murmur, "I'm alive."

"Thank the gods," Astarion responds, and you can just imagine the characteristic smirk on his face as he speaks, "Because if you were, I'm sure our companions wouldn't hesitate to suspect it be my doing."

You can hear him ruffling about faintly, closing the flaps to your tent to grant the two of you privacy, but your mind is already desperately slipping towards dream-state, only urged on by your body.

A beat passes before he speaks again, more quietly this time, but his voice is clearer than before despite it, which indicates he's moved closer to you.

"Have you eaten anything yet?"

You mumble something inaudible, but you manage to shake your head slowly, your eyes staying closed as you remain too tired to offer him a proper response.

He let's out a sigh, one that's steeped in worry rather than disappointment, and then you feel something cold gently brush over your cheek. His fingers.

"You need to eat, my darling. I know you're tired, but you haven't eaten all day. What can I get you?"

Your brows furrow as you shift slightly on the bed, tilting your cheek into his embrace. He cups it carefully, his cold touch soothing on your skin when his thumb caresses it.

"Mh, dunno.." Your response is barely there, but Astarion doesn't move away, his voice determined.

"I cannot in good consciousness let you sleep before you eat at least a little bit. How about fruit? An apple, perhaps?"

You grunt, your brows furrowing as your head shakes.

Astarion tuts gently at your antics, his fingers brushing over your forehead in a soothing manner, "Okay, my sweet, point taken. No apples. An orange then, would that entice you?"

You hesitate. An orange does sound absolutely perfect right now.

But then you let out a whine, "Too tired to peel it."

Astarion chuckles softly, his fingers gently sliding down the bridge of your nose as he whispers, "Don't fret, my dear."

The bed shifts again, his cool touch leaving your face, but it doesn't take long before your mind steals you away again, luring you into your dream state.

You're almost there when you feel movement again, your brows furrowing slightly as your tongue darts out to wet your dry lips.

Astarion gently slides a hand down your arm, his voice quiet, "I'm back, my love. I've got something for you, won't you indulge me in having a few bites?"

You stir at his words, settling against the pillows again, and then you feel something prod at your lips as he speaks again, "Open up for me, darling."

Your lips part, and he gently feeds you an orange slice, the taste making you hum when you bite down on it.

Astarion smiles at the tired look on your face, further peeling the orange to get more slices when you chew them.

"There we go. Tastes good, yes?"

You nod sleepily, blinking owlishly to look up at him through tired eyes. His smile widens when your eyes meet his, his adept fingers expertly peeling the orange without issue, "There she is. My little warrior."

You let out a tired chuckle at his words, parting your lips when he offers you another orange slice.

"Just a few more, darling. Then I'll let you rest."

You nod, your eyes fluttering closed again, but it doesn't deter him from feeding you the remaining orange slices as he speaks to you quietly to keep you awake.

"You were a sight for sore eyes today. I bet Gale is jealous you're not halfway to passed out in his bed right now."

You let out a snort at his words, shaking your head which makes him chuckle, "Now now, stay still, you little vixen. Eat the last of your orange."

You comply, chewing the last few bites and swallowing with a satisfied hum once you finish. His cool fingers gently caress your face, first your cheek and then down to your jaw, before you feel him lean closer. You feel his lips brush a kiss to your forehead, and then another on the tip of your nose before he whispers, "Thank you for eating. You may sleep now, my treasure."

[shattered-earth]

"orange peel theory" on the main 6 bg3 companions according to me

[lesbianralzarek]

ive got a theory and want to test it against how the fandom at large talks about them

[thirstydemisexual]

Ok but Astarion would NOT pass the orange peel theory at first

Like one night you went "I'm really craving an orange" and he would be like: "if you want it go get it" and do his business. But then he saw you get all pouty so the next morning he surprises you with a fresh fruit platter(sliced apples and peeled orange and some fresh berries) and some freshly squeezed orange juice.

You'd have to hear him complain about his hands smelling like citrus after tho

sorry for being inactive but exams season is kicking my ass, I love every single one of you that keep supporting me so much

[noamglompsky]

he is so (every song on my playlist) but specifically this one rn

[syn0vial]

notes:

house nightstar is a moon elf noble house in leuthilspar on the island of evermeet.

a tarrasque is a giant, nigh-unkillable, somewhat dinosaur-like abomination

astarion is the prettiest princess, confirmed

[preciouslittle-bhaalbabe]

Thinking about the first time Astarion and the player sleep together. I know it starts off as manipulation and he's going through the motions for the most part. BUT, I do wonder what goes through his head when he's intimate with someone for the first time while being completely in control of his body. I can't help but think about the way he looks at us. Completely comfortable and in control. Do you think he enjoys kissing the player for the first time without them being prey? Maybe he has some internal battle while they spend time together. Did he NEED to do this? Is he enjoying himself? Why does the players body feel so warm and safe? Maybe it's because i've had one glass of wine too many and am getting sentimental. But part of me thinks he softens a bit after that night. Not because he has to, but because for the first time, he sees the person he slept with the morning after. Safe and sound.

[astarionancuninslittlelove]

So I'm doing another playthrough, and I saw something that I thought was pretty interesting. My character is romancing Astarion (obviously), and I got this dialogue from Yurgir when meeting with him.

He says, "...There's something else, almost hidden by your fear-stink...cherries, musk...and sulphur."

Can Yurgir smell the first two notes of "cherries & musk" because your Tav smells like Astarion? It is well known amongst Astarion romancers that his scent is brandy, rosemary, and bergamont.

It also got me thinking about how when Halsin talks to you and says something like "You have bonded with Astarion body and mind. His scent lingers on your skin."

It could just be a coincidence, but I thought it was a cool find, and it made me swing my feet thinking my Tav is walking around smelling like Astarion.

What do ya'll think?

[verawhisk]

heres the next thing im working on!! the idea is that theyre having their own book club meeting and sharing ideas and analyses and what not... and then they lock eyes and realize they want each other so bad LMFAO

[eleasis20]

Vampire Spawn Colour Theory

There seems to be bit of symbolism going on with the vampire spawn and what colours they are wearing. For example, Astarion stands out from his siblings, as his siblings all wear red,

but Astarion's outfit is almost entirely blue/purple, with more pink/purple and only a hint of red.

which I think probably shows just how isolated he was as Cazador's favourite, even amongst his own siblings.

the only exception to this rule is possibly Leon, who is always seen shirtless and in blue/purple trousers:

Interestingly, this kind of confirms my theory, as Leon has some evidence to suggest that he was also isolated from the other spawn.

Leon is almost certainly the youngest of the spawn, being a human with a mortal human child basically guarantees that he's only been there for 10 years at most. We know this because in his dairy he says "ever since the master Turned me and forced me to bring Victoria along", proving that Victoria was born prior to his being Turned.

This immediately sets him apart from the others due to his inexperience, his living relatives, and having Victoria move in with him. It's also possible that he's the only human spawn, as Petras is never confirmed to human (to my understanding, he could be half-elven or at a stretch a full elf).

There is also the magic element here, as Leon is confirmed to be a Sorceror (inherent magic) in Dalyria's Journal, and if left to his own devices Astarion picks Arcane Trickster as his subclass of choice, giving him some magic abilities. None of the other spawn have confirmed classes, although there is a theory that Violet is a Bard.

Magic is almost always shown as purple in the game, through Gale's robe, his orb, his magic and Mystra's appearance as well as the ancient sigils.

Which could suggest that the thing that sets Astarion and Leon apart from the other spawn (and Cazador and, in association to the colour red, their bloodlust/vampiric nature) is their magic. Which also ties into the Tadpole being magically altered, and that being what frees Astarion from Cazador in the end.

Leon and Astarion wearing blue/purple sets them apart from the rest of the spawn, visually distinguishing them as the outliers.

It also separates them from Cazador's colour scheme, as he wears red and black.

Cazador wears largely black, with only a red shirt underneath his jacket adding any colour. Perfect for a vampire lord trying to hide his true nature from the masses and nobles - the red is being hidden by the black.

The black could also represent his ties to death, both as someone who is attempting to cause the deaths of 7007 people, and as someone who is undead. It could also represent that he obscures things and keeps secrets, from the public and from his spawn (the Rite of Profane Ascension for example).

Following this line of thought, it's interesting to note that Petras has very little red in his outfit, with more browns and blacks than anything else.

Possibly suggesting that he's (attempting to) following in Cazador's steps by hiding things. Most likely his true feelings more than anything, as he echoes Astarion's Act 1 personality by covering with seduction and false confidence.

Dalyria wears only red trousers, balanced with a white shirt and brown corset.

She's more honest about her vampirism, and more empathetic to both Astarion and Petras. She doesn't fully accept her vampirism and is trying to cure it (by killing Victoria).

Violet wears mostly red, with only a purple/black jacket.

If purple = magic, then perhaps the purple is a link to her possible history as a Bard, and the magic she weilded as one. She seems to have accepted her vampirism and takes little issue with her bloodthirst, wreaking havoc on her siblings with pranks targetting their vampirism in particular. (Her diary says she put garlic in Yousen's bed to give him a rash, and she seems to have scared the hell out of Leon with all the attention she gave Victoria, but despite getting into the Favoured Spawn room, she never hurt Vic.)

Yousen's outift is mostly black, with some brown mixed in.

again, he's likely accepted his vampirism moreso than Astarion, Leon, Petras and Dalyria. But he's still slightly unsure of his place, hence the muddy browns, possibly because he's the only short-race of the 7 spawn (almost certainly a Gnome).

Aurelia has the most red of all of them. Dressing almost exculsively in red.

She's even a red-skinned Tiefling, further matching Cazador's colour scheme. She's the most nervous/openly fearful of the spawn, possibly showing a submission to her vampirism and Cazador by extension.

Leon's lack of any red suggests that he's rejecting his vampirism, and Astarion's sliver of red under his jacket suggests that he's doing the same or is hiding it (he does for most of act 1 to be fair).

The fact that Cazador chose to target people who almost all have white/blonde hair suggests that he targeted innocents (white often represents innocence or purity), or that he targeted vulnerable people (white hair often suggests either significant age and therefore difficulting defending onself, or albinism which often causes blindness which also limits their ability to defend themselves).

Aurelia and Leon having darker hair might suggest that Cazador targeted people who had secrets or could be kept secret, or who were closer to death.

Of course none of this applies to irl, but is instead an analysis of what the character design could represent.

[astarionlover]

I love that as astarion when you tell wyll that you're a vampire he goes "I knew already ☺️ it's soo obvious🤭" but if he finds out via you biting someone in battle he's like YOURE A VAMPIRE????!?!??!!!

ik it's probably just a minor continuity oopsie but I interpret it as wyll just. straight up lying to look cool when you tell him,, meanwhile on the inside he's like HOW THE FUCK DID I NOT NOTICE THAT