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thatfrenchacademic · 2 years ago
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"The biggest issue is students using it, me spotting it and having no recourse whatsoever to do anything about it." can you elaborate a bit further
Hello !
So to explain a bit more: we [aka your lecturers, teachers, teaching assistants, etc...] know that some students will use ChatGPT.
And there is a discussion to be had about how to work with this, how to design assessment which allow students to leverage something which may simply become a fixture of writing in a workplace environment, but that is not the discussion we are having here. Because that is not what we are worried about.
The defensible, problematic situation is: a student straight up entering the essay prompt on ChatGPT, and using the grand skills of Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V, submits it as their own paper.
And our main worry, I think, was for a long time that we would not be able to catch it. That students would, actually, be able to fool us and that we would actually think this was a student who understood the course, who put in the work, and who deserve to be rewarded for their grade. That was the main fear.
But here is the thing.
And listen up, students :
Essays written by ChatGPT :
Suck
Are spotted from a mile away from the person reading it
For real. They suck.
I cannot stress enough how easy they are to spot. You are NOT fooling anyone. I do not need the platform's AI-detecting tool to know when an essay was written by Chat GPT. It is so, very painfully obvious when that's the case.
But the problem then becomes : ok, I have spotted a student who cheated.
What am I even supposed to do with it.
It is one thing to KNOW that an essay was AI-generated, it is another to defend it to a plagiarism committee. First of all, does it actually count as plagiarism ? Second, how do prove, with certainty, that the student did not write it ? How to I convince the plagiarism committee that this is worth looking into ? I am in the role of a police officer, who needs to convince the DA that this is a winnable case, that prosecuting will not be a waste of their time. But I don't have a Similarity Percentage to rely on. I don't have an original source to say "look, this is the exact same wording!" like in a classic plagiarism case.
Best case scenario, I can make my case for thee student to actually be called to the plagiarism committee, where we probe into how, exactly, they wrote their essay, until they fold. Unlikely, morally questionable, and in all likelihood, ineffective on students already so confident in their bullshit that they have the audacity to submit a fully AI-generated work for their finals.
Now, students, gather up, especially if you have considered using Chat GPT this way. Because right now, you might think it means you can get away with it.
But let me tell you something. First, that essay is getting the shittiest grade we can give you. Because you know what is more difficult than a lecturer proving that a student used AI to generate their essay ? A student proving that they deserve a better grade. Once we give you a grade, burden of evidence is on you to prove that you have not been graded properly. And we can come up with 15 reasons why an essay is a shit essay. We put on kids' gloves, when we lecture and give feedback. We give the simplified version of most theories, we give the basics of how to structure an essay, the bar we set is spectacularly low, because students come in good faith, they are learning, they will not be held at the same standard as academics. But if you try to argue that you need a higher grade, when you had the audacity to not write a single word of your work, the kids gloves are going to come off real quick, and your lecturer will be able to very convincingly explain why, actually, giving you a passing grade was a mercy in the first place.
Second. Academics, especially angry academics, are a gossip machine.
You may get a passing grade, and there may be no official note of it in your file whatsoever. But I can guarantee you that your lecturer will chat with their colleagues. That every single one of your essay that year, and the years to come, will be looked at with so much scrutiny I hope your referencing for every single work reaches perfection. Every single paragraph will be looked at with the knowledge that you are likely to have had it AI-generated. Lecturers will tell their TA to look at for That One Student when they grade you .You will not be getting any flexibility from us, no extension without full documentation to support it, no letter of recommendation from any member of the faculty, no word in your favor if you are bordering a grade bracket. If we are feeling especially petty, we might even forget to answer your emails or answer any question you have with such warmth and kindness you really still never feel like asking a question again in our class. And I know that, because that's already happening. I have the name of three undergrads that we know, for a fact, did not write their own essay. Two are not even in my modules at all.
Now. That's pretty mean. But if you have the absolute audacity and lack of ethics required to submit an essay for which you have not written a single word, and thought it would actually work, when your lecturer spent probably more that 80 hours working in this module this term, gave you the opportunity to meet for office hours, to ask any question in person or in email, to have extensions, accommodations, additional time ? When you decided that putting exactly zero second of your time, considered that you were above that - and above other students- and yet we were not able to officially sanction you for it, we had to give you a passing grade, the same passing grade as students who actually made an effort?
Yeah, sorry, you are not getting any sympathy from your lecturers anymore.
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dreamtydraw · 3 months ago
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I am now resting ( FINALY ) and so let’s talk fam i kinda miss you peasan- i mean guys !
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Ask box is open for any random small talk / questions. Can me about me, about you, games i like, games you like, oc, unpopular opinion, random stuff you have all free card for random debate i just feel like talking with people on anything !
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holographic-mars · 6 months ago
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okok but in terms of us and pfp vs pfp, who'd win: ship driving ravage or cutie cosmos moment⁉️
REAL ASF WHO WOULD WIN⁉️⁉️
Cutie cosmos would get smoked so hard by ship driving ravage it would be embarrassing , she would beat him so bad. Sorry cosmos I love you so much but you don’t stand a chance, Ravage would cook you so bad you wouldn’t survive 😔💔💔
Stupid little guy.. poor thang….. he was not gonna survive
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killer-kitt3n · 6 months ago
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Would you date/fuck a virgin around your age or is that a turnoff?
Dude, I'm in my mid 20's. Being a virgin isn't something real grown ass adults care about. It wouldn't be a turn off, it wouldn't be a turn on, it's just a thing.
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hues-of-purple · 1 year ago
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its super common to have comorbid diagnoses when you have adhd! most people w adhd have at least 1 other diagnosis
so true... its just a lot lmaoo
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puppyeared · 4 months ago
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filipina miku!! my mom helped me with her outfit ^_^
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koobiie · 8 months ago
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shoutout to everyone who wants to infodump but cant string together coherent thoughts to form sentences and instead just look at you like this
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muffinlance · 8 months ago
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My baby daughter got her adorable puffin-print dress absolutely CAKED in mud crawling around the yard and my first thought was "oh no her beautiful dress"
And my second thought was "oh huh it really WOULD be easy to unconsciously steer her away from playing in the dirt. Unlike my son, whose outfits are usually some kind of solid dark easily washed pants plus a shirt that doesn't trail in the dirt like a dress does."
Anyway something something gender roles start getting shoved on kids from literal birth, but with a little time to think about things, YOU TOO can let your children of any gender absolutely destroy their clothes in the dirt pit they're digging in your garden
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thelaurenshippen · 7 months ago
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watching bridgerton and obviously there were a lot of things wrong with the way socializing has worked in the past, but honestly the idea of a "calling hour" is so appealing. office hours for friendship. you can show up unannounced at my home between 1 and 3pm. you must leave by 3pm. I may give you a pastry. lets bring that back
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beebfreeb · 8 months ago
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druid-for-hire · 2 years ago
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[image id: a four-page comic. it is titled "immortality” after the poem by clare harner (more popularly known as “do not stand at my grave and weep”). the first page shows paleontologists digging up fossils at a dig. it reads, “do not stand at my grave and weep. i am not there. i do not sleep.” page two features several prehistoric creatures living in the wild. not featured but notable, each have modern descendants: horses, cetaceans, horsetail plants, and crocodilians. it reads, “i am a thousand winds that blow. i am the diamond glints on snow. i am the sunlight on ripened grain. i am the gentle autumn rain.” the third page shows archaeopteryx in the treetops and the skies, then a modern museum-goer reading the placard on a fossil display. it reads, “when you awaken in the morning’s hush, i am the swift uplifting rush, of quiet birds in circled flight. i am the soft stars that shine at night. do not stand at my grave and cry.” the fourth page shows a chicken in a field. it reads, “i am not there. i did not die” / end id]
a comic i made in about 15 hours for my school’s comic anthology. the theme was “evolution”
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thatfrenchacademic · 2 years ago
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decided to trawl through the polisci tag on tumblr today in some guise of productivity (i'm sick and therefore cannot for the life of me focus on actual academics) and found your treasure trove of a blog! I will for sure be taking note of all your excellent advice and IR explanations once my brain is back in working order lol
Hello there!
"browsing academia-related things bc too sick to engage with it more seriously than that" is such a mood, honestly.
Welcome ! I'm glad you found this messy and nerdy little corner of the internet useful. I hope the term will go well for you, and take care of yourself ! Get well soon (I say to both me and you, because a girl is also still ✨sick ✨)
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dreamtydraw · 5 months ago
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*sit in your tumblr dash*
Hi, I’m bored and I wanna talk please send me ask about my games, my oc, games I like, random question, how you’re doing ( about anything truly )
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Signed : Dreamty who’s stuck because they have 2h of train to do.
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derangedorange · 3 months ago
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I hope he views fanart like this
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killer-kitt3n · 6 months ago
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I would 🫣 and I am too embarrassed to elaborate.
You know what’s hotter than an exhibitionist Tumblr girl always begging for asks that put her mind into a state of hypersexuality?
When she finally gets an ask that pushes her past all that and actually makes her embarrassed.
Now, how many of us are thinking about you getting your holes filled in a foursome in the most embarrassing way possible?
All. Of. Us.
Surely not...all of you.
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ionomycin · 2 months ago
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your last light
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