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Mammon is great ace representation: an essay on aphobia in the Hellaverse fandom
Iâm seeing a lot of people be mad about Mammon having a thing for Leviathan. And Iâm going to need the fandom to step back and examine these issues, because they are 100% rooted in aphobia. I have been out as an oriented aroace person for over 10 years if you want to doubt my credentials, rather than listen to my analysis, lived experience and reflect.
So. Tell me Hellaverse fandom; why, when it comes to Alastor, who is a character who very clearly has zero interest in others, it is always a chorus of people saying âaces can have sexâ, âaces can enjoy sexâ, âitâs not harmful to the ace community to use Alastor for shipping material, he isnât real and asexuality and aromanticism is a huge spectrumâ, âAroace people can still date and have sexâ?
But when it comes to Mammon, he is âbad asexual representationâ, he âclearly experiences sexual attractionâ, âhe canât be demisexualâ, etc.
No genuinely, why is this? I want you to examine this, think on it from a place of neutral examination and come to your own conclusions. Because this is a worrisome double standard. This can for starters, be an instance of fat phobia. Because out of the two of them, Alastor is thin, and therefore closer to the beauty standard, which is hysterical considering that Alastor canonically has horrible hygiene, and I donât think I know a single person who thinks that stank ass body and breath is attractive. Mammon, as seen from the slovenly way he eats, can potentially be assumed to have poor hygiene as well, but it has a very different connotation because of his weight. [Research the connection between thin privilege and body odor/hygiene. Itâs very real].
I can spend a lot of time and energy going into the shipping dynamics between the shows, as well as how Alastor is a more âshippableâ character in comparison to Mammon, but I honestly donât find this as interesting or as compelling as to what Iâm about to say next.
Because aphobia in the real world is still very alive and well today. In my 10+ years of being in the ace community, I have genuinely spent a lot of emotional energy, time, knowledge, experience, and compassion, just fighting for the right to even be acknowledged as queer. I have vivid memories from when I was first out of the closet at the age of 16, telling ace people across apps and forums that they were valid, that they werenât broken, that they were deserving of love, respect, and a place in the queer community. I was telling people, younger, my age, and older that they shouldnât kill themselves, that they had worth beyond what they could do in the bedroom for others. I had to convince people that they didnât owe anyone sex, and that they were in fact being sexually abused by their partners. I was on the phone with people in tears. I spent HOURS of my life in these DMs at an age where I was a suffering, mentally ill queer child that was also being victimized by aphobia. Still to this day people think the âAâ stands for ally. And still to this day people have discord about our community as a whole. I have had to sit and watch as people went from loudly proclaiming with their whole chest that asexual people didnât exist, or at the very least werenât queer. Then years went by and it became less and less okay to say things like that, because asexual people finally had fought long enough and had supported each other enough that we discovered our voices and began to use them. So people were finally facing the consequences of saying bigoted shit.
And now that they canât say that asexuals arenât queer, they moved on to another group. Demisexuals. Demisexuals by far have it roughest, because while there are many micro labels in our community to explain our diverse range of experiences, demisexual is probably the most well known one. And every handful of months or so I have to use my voice once again to stand up for my people, because an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us, and people on the internet have made it clear that they have no qualms of attacking us. The asexual and aromantic community have made extremely valuable contributions to the queer community that are entirely overlooked because we are not valued in it.
And this is why I have been an outspoken proponent of my displeasure over Alastor being a character that is the most shipped with others, and my disdain for the fanbase has grown even wider after Mammons appearance in Mastermind. It is a painful reminder of all the discrimination Iâve faced over the years, that my community still goes through. Because people are contrarians. Alastor is canonically asexual, and other aspects of his character are reflective of aromanticism as well. Well, the fanbase doesnât like this so much. If you genuinely pay attention, youâll notice this is a trend with a lot of other aroace characters. My favorite example is Peridot from Steven Universe, a canonical aroace character. In the show, Peridot goes through a lot of unlearning and growth. The scene where she tries to fuse with Garnet has massive implications for a few reasons. Because one, she is genuine in her desire to understand Garnet, and fusion better. And two, fusion while forbidden on Homeworld, is commonplace and normal in the Crystal Gems. As a Crystal Gem, she feels this is what is now expected of her. This is a major experience in the aspec community, as living in a cis heteronormative society means that sex, marriage and children are all things expected of each individual, which is dangerous and harmful ideology to everyone, asexual/aromantic people as well. Peridot couldnât go through with the fusion, but that didnât stop the fandom salivating, and foaming at the mouth over a potential Lapis/Peridot fusion. People were genuinely mad at Rebecca Sugar for never making that pairing canon, when they had absolutely no right to behave the way they did. Letâs not forget how the fans also misgendered Rebecca Sugar constantly. It was absolutely bigoted.
This is happening with Alastor. Fans feel entitled to ship him with whomever, an entitlement that is not seen with other characters. When people ship Vaggie with Angel, there is backlash, and for good reason. Because people understand that despite the fact that Vivienne Medrano said people can ship whatever, shipping a gay man with a woman and a gay woman with a man isâŠgross. It is wrong, it is disrespectful of their identities, and is forcing heteronormativity onto characters that are strict in their sexualities. Most people are able to recognize the thinly veiled homophobia. But Alastor does not receive the same treatment, and in fact receives the opposite treatment. I donât know what I could say to convince you that the aroace coded character in a show being the #1 most shipped is thinly veiled aphobia the same way Vaggie x Angel is thinly veiled homophobia.
Now what does that have to do with Mammon? Mammon seems to not be aroace coded like Alastor, and for some reason, that has thoroughly pissed people off. Because Mammon is not the âacceptableâ caricature of an asexual person. Most allosexual (non-asexual and/or aromantic people) view being asexual as being synonymous with being aromantic, which shows a painful lack of understanding and at times respect for the diversity of our community. Alastor fits this category, so heâs an âacceptable asexualâ, while also essentially being a toy for shippers. But Mammon, with his clear attraction to Leviathan, is a âbastardizationâ of the asexual image. When we arenât being viewed as broken, weâre often being viewed as chaste, virginal, and innocent with attachments to infantilization. But Mammon, with his aggressive and even icky approach to flirting with Leviathan, is seen as a subversion of this, which for people who donât understand our community, hate. And these people are blaming Vivienne for having âterrible ace repâ when in actuality, having multiple ace characters having very little in common is actually fantastic rep. Because there are many labels in our community that Mammon can fit into as an asexual. To me, he looks like a sex-positive, high libido, demisexual. Heâs known Leviathan for thousands of years, of course it makes sense that he would be into her, but not into anyone else which would explain why his âposseâ are just female robots. This could also be because of his classism, but I genuinely think that heâs just demisexual. And you already know how people feel about demisexuals.
If youâve read this far and have genuinely set aside your biases and personal feelings like I requested in the beginning, I appreciate that. Because from my own lived experience, the double standard between Alastor and Mammon doesnât annoy me; it frightens me.
Because what the fandom is actually saying when they do these things is this:
âWe see you as a homogenous group. Your voices go in one ear and out the other. If you donât conform to our values and standards, we wonât give you the respect or recognition you deserve. If you donât conform to my view of your group, you lose my âallyshipâ. We do not see your identity as a sexuality in its own right, but rather a literary device we can play with. I do not care to learn more about your community, your culture, or your struggles. I barely (if at all) acknowledge you as your own sexual minority and marginalized group. I barely acknowledge (if at all) that you are queer at all. I do not care about your feelings about societal biases that I might carry, I donât care about how youâve lived it, because it takes away my fun and fantasies. Because I devalue your group as a whole, your voices mean little. Your narrative is mine to do with as I please.â
I really hope you can see my perspective and understand the sincere place this comes from. Thanks for reading.
#hazbin hotel#hazbinhotel#helluva boss#helluva boss mammon#alastor is aro ace#hazbin alastor#alastor#asexual#aromantic#aro ace lesbian#aromantism#asexuality#asexual issues#aphobia#tw homophobia#ace discourse
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Me: I don't have a girlfriend because I'm busy working & balancing that with my free time & time spent with friends & have no room for a romance
I'm totally choosing to not be in a relationship and there's no other reason
#tbf i work 6 days a week LMAOO#but revelation romance is not that important to me BUT i can see myself dating#aro ace spec#aro ace lesbian
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All of the Prehistoric Pride guys in one collective post to celebrate pride month. Choose your fighter and have an awesome time :D
More suggestions are always welcome, I sadly was not able to cover everyone, but I will do more of these in the future!
I am going to add more and more to the collection as I get them done :D
If you would like to support my silly little dinosaur art, then you can buy any of these Prideaurs as stickers from my Etsy shop, which I just set up recently. I am pretty new to this entire business side of art things, but I am trying my best :D so a like or a reblog would go a long way. Thank you guys so much for all your kind words and support!
#illustration#digital art#art#illustrators on tumblr#character design#dinosaur#paleoart#paleontology#paleoblr#paleomedia#artists on tumblr#dinosaurs#paleoposting#paleo tag#lgbtq community#lgbt pride#trans pride#pride#pride month#gay pride#queer pride#lgbtqia#queer community#lgbtq#ace pride#aro pride#aro ace#mlm pride#lesbian pride#lgbtq ally
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"love is love" until it doesn't include sex
"love is love" until it lives in separate beds
"love is love" until it is queer platonic
"love is love" until it does not comply with compulsory sexuality and amatonormativity
love IS love, for aspecs, for sex repulsed folk and for platonic relationships
"love is love" apply to more than same-sex relationships in a world where romantic and sexual relationships are considered more valuable
Remember to advocate for Asexuals and Aromantics this pride. Because we are also here, and we are also queer
#queer#aroace#ace#asexual#aspec#aspec mafia#aro#arospec#ace pride#aro pride#ace problems#aro problems#lgbtqiia+#lbgtq#pride month#gay pride#lesbian pride#lgbtq community#lgbt pride#queer pride#aromantic
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I'm an aro ace lesbian IDC if it makes sense to anyone
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Pride Eeveelutions!
Edit: now as stickers!
#Pokemon#Eeveelutions#pkmnart#Pride Eeveelutions#Pride#my art#Free to use as icons!#I always try to make icons of these guys every year but I lose steam halfway so I have like 4 icons every time dcfvghb#BUT THIS YEAR I POWERED THROUGH#People who says nice things over these designs I owe you my life#Pride Flareon#Trans Vaporeon#Enby Jolteon#NB Jolteon#Lesbian Espeon#Bi Umbreon#Aro Leafeon#Pan Sylveon#Ace Glaceon#now also as stickers!
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#asexual#aromantic#aroace#ace#aro#aro pride#ace pride#pride#pride month#lgbt pride#lgbtq community#lgbtq#lgbtqia#lgbt#lgbtqia+#lgbtqiia+#poll#polls#gay#MLM#lesbian#queer#bisexual#bi#Omni#omnisexual#questioning#straight
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wiggly static pride wallpapers
lesbian | gay
bi | trans
rainbow | pan
ace | aro
nonbinary | queer
please reblog if you save any! <3
more here (scroll)
some palettes used from these flag edits (thanks julien â)
#lgbt art#wallpapers#lgbtq#pride#lockscreens#lock screen#backgrounds#subtle wallpaper#lesbian#gay#bi#bisexual#trans#queer#pan#pansexual#ace#asexual#aro#aromantic#nonbinary#top posts#10k#15k#20k#25k
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reblog if youâre one of them queers đȘđȘđȘ
#queer#reblog if#gay#lesbian#trans#aro#ace#acespec#nonbinary#genderfluid#genderqueer#unspecified#bisexual#intersex
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On this fine day, at 8:37 AM, I walked outside to the front of my school and saw that they replaced the Canadian flag, the flag of our country, with a Pride flag. I have never felt happier. I have never laughed so hard in my life. This is in not a complaint, I just think it's very funny that they replaced the Canadian flag with a Pride flag for no apparent reason. They have their priorities figured out.
#lgbtq+#lgbtq#lgbtqia#queer#lgbtq+ rights#gay#bisexual#pansexual#lesbian#aromantic#asexual#aroace#trans#transgender#ace#aro#trans rights#genderfluid#polyamourous#bigender#aspec#nonbinary#enby#intersex#agender#i'm tagging with all the queer identities i can think of because everyone deserves to see this#YOU ARE ALL VALID#genderqueer#abrosexual#omnisexual
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I donât wear pride merch to tell you whose in my bedâŠ
I WEAR IT TO TELL YOU WHO ISN'T! IâM ASEXUAL THAT MEANS NOBODY! (Except⊠UR MOM)
#lgbtq#lgbtq community#lgbtqia#lgbt#lgbt pride#asexuel#queer#arospec#aromantic#aroace#aro#aspec#lesbianism#sapphic#mlm#gay#ace pride#pride month#pride 2024
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I just saw Nimona, and the fact that this movie isnât talked about, was poorly advertised, and is completely overlooked is not surprising but is violently disappointing. This mightâve been the best movie Iâve ever seen. Itâs definitely the best movie Iâve seen in the last DECADE. Nimona is such a beautiful, kindred soul. There are many things that differ between me and Nimona, Iâm not gender-fluid, our personalities arenât similar, Iâm not as confident and I believe theyâre BPD coded (which I do not have), but I am trans. I donât want to have pieces of me be excluded. I want to fuck up the system. I love how she presents as a girl frequently and still says deadpan âIâm not a girlâ. They love who they are unabashedly, (which I aspire to do) and are in such agonizing pain from being rejected and despised that it drives them to self destruction.
âThe child thatâs unloved by the village will burn it down to feel itâs warmth.â Is on of my favorite quotes and I feel like it encapsulates this character so well. This show handled so many heavy elements in such a perfect way in a shorter medium like a movie and it is so impressive.
I love this movie. I love Nimona.
#nimona#nimona is probably the best film in a generation#genderfluid#queer#nonbinary#gender fuckery#shapeshifter#aro ace lesbian#lesbian#gay#lgbtqia
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PRIDE KITTY PINS WAVE 2 IS UP FOR PRE-ORDER!!!!
Hello everyone!! Wave 1 of my pride kitties has been a huge success, and I'm happy to announce that wave 2 is in the works now!!
COMING TO THE SHOP LATE JUNE/EARLY JULY IS THE NONBINARY, PANSEXUAL, AROMANTIC, AROACE, MLM, AND RESTOCK OF BISEXUAL PINS!!!
These pins are available for preorder now!! Production takes about 20~ days (give or take) and shipping takes about a week, so the hope is that they'll get here before the end of pride month!!
In the meantime I still have these pins below available now!! Gay, Lesbian, Asexual, and Trans!!
FIND EM ALL IN MY SHOP BELOW!!!!
#pride#lgbt enamel pins#lgbt#lgbtqia#gay#lesbian#bisexual#bi#asexual#ace#transgender#trans#aromantic#aro#mlm#mlm gay#aroace#aromantic asexual#pansexual#pan#nonbinary#nb#enamel pins#kitties#cats#cat enamel pins#pride enamel pins#pride kitties#gay pride#WEEEEEHEHEHEHEEEEEE
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this is about when you specificially recognised yourself as being queer, not the crush you had on elizabeth swan as a kid and didn't understand. been thinking abt this a lot recently and wanted to ask tumblr. i can predict the results but i'm still interested. please tell me the specific age in tags!
#queer#tumblr#queer community#lgbtqia#lgbtq#poll#random polls#polls#tumblr polls#lesbian#gay#bisexual#pansexual#asexual#aromantic#transgender#nonbinary#ftm#mtf#ace#aro#bi#pan#homosexual#ozzy rambles
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remembering one time when i introduced someone i knew to tumblr not knowing he was homophobic. heâs still here and probably confused about why itâs so gay. daily reminder to make a homophobe angry by putting them on tumblr
#lgbt#lgbtq#lgbtqia#lgbt+#lgbtq+#lgbtqia+#lesbian#gay#bi#bisexual#trans#transgender#queer#intersex#asexual#ace#aromantic#aro#agender
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It's nearly 2024; can we not do ace discourse this year.
#as a lesbian#if you come after my ace/aro friends I will personally gouge your eyes out#asexual#aromantic#ace exclusion#anti exclusionist#exclusionists can fuck off
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