#archon dorian

[elvhenfaer]

“Listen, as much as I hated your father… I think he’d be very proud. When you were a child he always believed, perhaps a bit overzealously, that one day you could be the Archon of Tevinter. And, well, now you are.”

These were words Dorian had not known he needed to hear. Until he heard them.

[yungjiho]

Sidenote: Dorian as Archon has me so horny for him all over again. He deserves his position, he's so hot, he's so perfect, I love him so much, I'm so happy he's Archon now and that's the way it should be. I LOVE DORIAN PAVUS OKAY

[silent-words]

I know that Dorian probably spends his time in Shadow Dragons' lair because he is lonely, and here he can be around friends. Still I have a funnier explanation.

Imagine that because of the Antaam threat Dorian had to evacuate Lady Aquinea Pavus, his mother, from Quarinus to Minrathous. And now she's saying "With magisters such as you Tevinter will fall!". She's not Venatori, but she's getting on his nerves, so he escapes to Docktown.

"They made you an Archon?! Then we are truly doomed!" I just picture Aquinea as a toxic mother, I'm sorry. Well, she wasn't against Halward when he attempted to "change" their only son through blood magic.

Imagine how after the final fight of the Veilguard Dorian arrives to his mansion hand in hand with the Inquisitor and kisses him in front of Lady Aquinea. She departs to Quarinus the next morning 😆

[antivancastle]

i really really wish we could have seen high society tevinter. i wish we could have had a shadow dragons quest at a fancy party like wicked hearts in inquisition, and maybe we could have had a bigger dorian cameo and more insight on the corruption of templars…

[sexygayvampire]

hey does anyone else ever think about archon!dorian and lose their minds

[heliomanteia]

I love that Emmrich gives you approval if you pick Dorian as archon. “Mindful and polite” peepaw heard “violent revolution” and went 👍🏼 Well done, Rook!

P. S. It is completely in character, I adore that.

[lizzybeeee]

Me creating an Inquisitor in 2018 to romance the Iron Bull with the faint hope of hearing some juicy details/codex entries/scathing tavern songs about their relationship in DA4 when we get to witness the Qunari/Tevinter War we've been building up to for three games.

Iron Bull betrayal, romance Many whispered that the Inquisitor was to blame for the Qunari attack, that he/she allowed him/herself to be blinded by lust and seduced into folly. The Inquisitor was mocked in tavern songs and scathing Orlesian plays for years to come. Trespasser Epilogue

[0alix0]

boy do i love how the only reason bioware replaced Lucerni with Shadow Dragons was because they wanted middle class citizens being the driving force of the changes for Tevinter.....

.......... and STILL ended up with them being run by a former member of magisterium, a rich altus diplomat and a fucking BLACK DIVINE

[veatomis]

The fact that what most people are doing to dorian's character in dav is make stupid ass jokes revolving around solas or tying him to emmrich with barely any real serious discussions on what the game's events mean for him and his arc esp with a romanced inquisitor is actually really fine and makes me feel very normal. that sound? Oh just me grinding my teeth down to the bone <3

[dkniade]

Contrast and Unity in the White/Black Imagery of Genshin Impact Quest Titles

Dragonspine 1.2 & 2.3 Events, Fontaine Act I

Game: Genshin Impact

Developer: HoYoverse

Fan Localization: Dusk

An aside from when I tried to explain the meaning of Kreideprinz’s Chinese term—

In Chinese, 白垩 is used to refer to Albedo with varying meanings but in the English version the term is even less consistent: 

Concealed Talon item description 白垩层 (baie ceng) = “Cretaceous Layer” (of soil) localized as “Cretaceous”

Albedo’s Story Quest Chapter title 白垩之章 (baie zhi zhang) = “Cretaceous Chapter” localized as “Princeps Cretaceous Chapter”

Albedo’s second Ascension voiceline, 白垩 (baie) = “chalk”/“Cretaceous”, localized as “albedo”, the second stage of the alchemical magnum opus

(even though in the context of alchemy, the albedo (Latin: “whitening”) stage should be 白化 (baihua, whitening) in Chinese because the albedo stage does not refer to chalk/limestone)

Albedo’s title 白垩之子 (baie zhi zi) = possibly varies slightly depending on context that it appears in, localized as “Kreideprinz”

Xingqiu’s “About Albedo” voiceline, 白垩老师 (baie laoshi) = (teacher) “Mr. Cretaceous” (Latin) or “Mr. Chalk” (English) or “Mr. Kreide” (German) localized as “Mr. Kreideprinz”

Version 1.2’s name 白垩与黑龙 (baie yu heilong) = “The White Chalk and the Black Dragon” or “Cretaceous and the Black Dragon”

or one can localize it in German like how they did the 4.0 Chapter IV Act I “Prelude of Blancheur and Noirceur” (French: “Prelude of Whiteness and Blackness” or ”Prelude of Innocence and Darkness”)

though, officially, Version 1.2’s name 白垩与黑龙 is localized as “The Chalk Prince and the Dragon”

Speaking of black and white in titles, another aside—

Don’t you know that HoYoverse loves juxtaposing white/black or light/shadow in its quest titles

1.2 Dragonspine event

Chinese: 白垩与黑龙 (Baie yu Heilong) = “The White Chalk and the Black Dragon” 

Official English: “The Chalk Prince and the Dragon”

2.3 Dragonspine event

Chinese: 皑尘与雪影 (Aichen yu Xueying) = “White Dust and Snowy Shadows” 

Official English: “Shadows Amidst Snowstorms”

皑 from 白雪皑皑 (baixue aiai) usually refers the whiteness of snow specifically, so 皑尘 as “(snowy) white dust” is just their over-the-top way to say “snow”.

“Snowy Dust and Snowy Shadows” sounds too humorous though.

I’VE BEEN WANTING TO SAY THIS FOR A LONG TIME NOW: of course symbolism-wise it’s likely that “white dust” refers to Albedo, “snow” refers to the Cryo Whooperflower Albedo, and “shadow” refers to Primordial Albedo, with Durin encompassing all three as the shadow dragon that lies dead—like dust—in the snowy mountain.

HoYoverse being HoYoverse has found a way to say white and black without even using the hanzi for white (白) and black (黑) back in 2.3.

4.0 Fontaine Act I

Chinese: 白露与黑潮的序诗 (Bailu yu Heichao de Xushi) = Prelude of White Dew and Black Tides

Official English: “Prelude of Blancheur and Noirceur” 

with French terms translated: “Prelude of Whiteness and Blackness” or “Prelude of Innocence and Darkness”

Given the information in 4.0, I would assume that “white dew” refers to Furina and “black tides” refers to Neuvillette seeing how Furina���s always at the front of key visuals and Neuvillette’s always looming ominously over the background, but you can also think of it as innocence vs guilt, I suppose.

POETIC ALLUSION UPDATE: 白露 alludes to the Chinese poem “蒹葭”(Jianjia) = “Reed”

from the ancient collection of poems, 诗经 (Shijing)

The poem is basically the narrator talking about not being able to reach their lover, who’s on the other side of the water (lake?)

The act’s Chinese title is already over-the-top—since most people would look at it and think “ah white and black and something about water, got it”—so localization’s aim is to match the fancy feel and not the accuracy ‘cause honestly if you localize all that into French it’d be too long. This makes sense…

Though, the implication that French holds such a high prestige that its mere presence is enough to balance out some loss of meaning from the Chinese title is… strange, now that I think of it.

白露与黑潮的序诗 (Prelude of White Dew and Black Tides) in French would be “Prélude de la rosée blanche et des marées noires”… I think. (Please correct me if I’m wrong.)

This time HoYoverse found another way to say white and black while using the hanzi characters AND STILL BE EXTRA BECAUSE THEY ALLUDED TO A CHINESE POEM OF COURSE THEY DID. ARCHONS, man…

New drinking game: take a shot whenever black/white or dark/light is juxtaposed in a Genshin title/name of any language, take another shot if they don’t actually use the word/character for black/white in the target language, take another if they alluded to a Chinese poem or literature in the original LOL

[elvhenfaer]

mustache necromancer ; original flavor

[imtrying-ok]

Seeing every Dorian Enjoyer trying to find any way to put Dorian in Veilguard is so funny. But me too.

[silent-words]

I know that l'm not a politically astute Dragon Age player. When I was presented with a chance to make my (Inquisitor's) boyfriend a leader of the country, I took it. I was giggling and kicking my legs, I was so happy that I can do it. Screw all the narrative that says "oh bad Dorian wants to manipulate and kill someone". I wanted my charming mage to be the Archon.

Pretty much the same reasons I had when I made Alistair the King of Ferelden. Because he was my (Warden's) boyfriend, and I could make him king. In DAO, though, no one was saying "he will be a bad king". The game wasn't implying it.

"I want my little cinnamon roll to rule the country" should be a valid reason for an in-game choice.

[sirotras]

i get that in order for the choice between saving minrathous and treviso to feel impactful, certain content can only be available depending on which city is saved

i AM however, just a little baffled by which content is exclusive to each path

[asharaks]

& I think by veilguard kasi and dorian aren't really together any more....if kas had been able to resolve the solas situation, if he hadn't lost his arm, if he'd been able to kill that bald motherfucker, if things in the south hadn't gone so wrong he'd essentially had to give up the hunt - maybe they could've made it. but all that did happen and he's spent the last ten years retreating into this dehumanising position of authority, carefully crushing every emotion out in order to do his work, and it was bad when the inquisition was active but by the time veilguard rolls around I think the only thing keeping him tethered is the vague memory of what he and dorian had. and by this point they haven't seen each other in years and they're both very aware that they're holding onto an Idea of one another and there's some pedestals there that are gonna get in the way if they ever meet again. and then in veilguard they do and they get to spend time together and say goodbye properly before kas dies:)

[invinciblerodent]

making the decision on who to back for Archon is...

ngl, it feels a little different now, from the way they perhaps intended when they were writing that quest