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historia-jaeger · 2 years ago
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Why I think that Chapter 139 (AOT Ending) makes no sense
Yes. Actually it should come out to your ears, but I thought about the last chapter again and I wanted to share this with you. The story about Ymir Fritz: We knew from Ymir Fritz that she must have been around 14 years old when she was first seen. She was a slave and they had her tongue removed which is why she couldn't speak. When she released the pigs and was therefore hunted and finally fell into the tree, it was a sign of her desire for freedom.
When Zeke was about to go through with the euthanasia plan, Eren hugged Ymir and said she was free. She then followed Eren's plans instead of obeying the king's descendants as she has done over the years. The message was clear: Ymir is no longer a slave to the king.
Until then it was still logical. Ymir Fritz was actually a slave, even after her death. Only Eren could make it clear that she was FREE. But then the last chapter came and nothing made sense anymore.. Suddenly she had feelings for the king and suffered from her love for him for 2 millennia. Only Mikasa could change that. That also explains why she released the pigs and had no will to live. Above all, it never became clear why the ONE person was needed for Ymir to break free and find peace was. People. We talk about of thousend of years. No one can tell me there hasn't been someone who has loved like Mikasa before. Especially the scene in which Mikasa kisses Eren's severed head and Ymir stands next to him with a satisfied expression on his face terrifies me enormously. What's the point of having an impact with Mikasa when Ymir has practically applied herself by obeying Eren instead of Zeke? But the main thing was that you could unnecessarily add more love drama.
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Erens plan was...destruction: Eren's plan was to wipe out humanity away from paradise. It is clear why he did this. Paradise threatened to be wiped out from the world and it was evident that there would be no peaceful negotiations. So the goal was set and implemented with Ymir's help. Armin and Co. should stop him, kill him and become heroes so that paradise will be accepted by the world. So I thought... would be his plan. No. Eren's plan was to do whatever it took to get Mikasa to kill him in order to break the titancurse. But if he hadn't known that the curse could be broken in this way, he would still have killed the people. And he doesn't know why... Give him a good reason, PLEASE. Wouldn't the euthanasia plan or the plan to hold the attackers at bay with the Wall Titans have been better options than killng thousands of innocent people? Of course he didn't want to sacrifice Historia and the freedom of his people. Oh well. Eren seemed to want to save his people above all. I think it's a bit of a shame at this point, because he knew that there were also good people outside of paradise. Chadren ist real shit. xD He could have at least THINK about an alternative. Instead of: I don't know why. How EreMika ruined the ending: I personally feel that Eren's outburst of emotion about his love for Mikasa was quite inappropriate. But after all, the whole story should end like this, otherwise Isayama wouldn't have brought in the totally illogical part with Ymir's feelings for her tormentor and the illogicial story, that only Mikasa can end Ymirs lovesick pain. Mikasa is quite a tragic character. She was severely traumatized by the death of her parents and the subsequent death of her new family. It was only thanks to Eren that she didn't give up on herself and life completely. But the aftermath of her trauma is still felt. If you look at her quotes like this, you realize that she says a lot about the beauty and especially the cruelty of life. But "fighting" is also very common in their vocabulary. Eren, on the other hand, is not only the last part of her remaining family, but the one who always gave her support in bad situations. This is also the reason why she doesn't want Eren to put himself in danger and is very protective of him. Unfortunately, her fear of losing Eren gives her quite a bit of tunnel vision. Because of this, she puts herself and others at risk. It should be obvious that she is in love with him. Eren, on the other hand, never seemed to have more feelings for Mikasa, than he did for a good friend or sister. Isayama said he wanted Eren and Mikasa to kiss the moment they were attacked by the grinning titan, but I think that's nonsense. That would mean that he already had feelings for Mikasa at that point and was aware that she liked him too. Who else kisses their adoptive sister without being asked? No. He had to ask Mikasa and then Zeke if she loves him, nine years later so he could be sure. Especially because he should have known it, if he can see into the future. Most of all...why didn't he confess his love to her before kissing Historia's hand? No. From the reader's point of view, it really doesn't appear that Eren had feelings for Mikasa that went beyond sibling love. That's why the scene with Eren's emotional outburst was more than surprising and out of place. It just seemed forced. The whole chapter. ~*~ It just seemed like something had to be concocted to create extra love drama and still squeeze in the fact that Eren loved Mikasa so much. Otherwise you could have left it at Mikasa's kiss and then wrote the scene of the war ending and so on. It would have been a nice ending, because Mikasa was able to break free from her trauma and let Eren go. It would have been more logical, because Ymir would simply have been a slave and not a person with Stockholm Syndrome. And Isayama don´t need to have drawn a flashback in which Eren half-heartedly explains his behavior. That Ymir loved the king and it took Mikasa to break the curse and all the trappings were just out of place and made zero sense. Sorry.
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amaelart · 1 year ago
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kaneki 139 aot version
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natsuki208 · 2 months ago
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It’s Carla Jaeger’s birthday today!
And to this day, I still never felt as betrayed as the time, nearly four years ago, when it was revealed that Eren caused his own mother’s death.
I’m sorry but WHY?! Why was that a necessary detail?! Why couldn’t we just leave it that Dina avoided Berty because of her instincts to find Grisha or something?! It went against everything Eren set out to do in the first place!
Sorry for rambling, but I’m never gonna get over that pointless reveal to make the ending ‘more dramatic’. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️
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nemmymadethis · 3 months ago
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I redrew this the second I finished reading Chapter 139, so yeah it’s been some time. Sasha has been one of my favourite character for a decade and her death was devastating. But I look at this and can’t help but smile at this precious potato loving girl ✨❤️
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cadriox · 1 year ago
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To confess, I’m not great at drawing eren.
Despite the amount of times I had drawn him, I still don’t fully get him. It could be that I’m too dumb or too much of a casual fan for deep analysis, but AOT has failed to conclude his character for me.
To me Eren is a deeply traumatized individual who failed to mature. He’s a self-righteous man child. But there’s also some ancient evil yadayada messing with his head that isayama couldn’t clear up it up for me, so at this point I still don’t know why eren committed rumbling.
Interestingly, this shows in my art HAHA.
Most of my eremin art is seen from armin’s POV, eren remains either a mystery or partially seen. Eren from Armin’s POV works better in my drawings bc he’s an incomplete character, a huge mystery even, he makes no sense to me sometimes, but above all he’s a symbol of doom and rage.
(“POV” is rather vague in illustrations esp when a lot of them can be objective. To me POV applies when the drawing leans toward one character’s bias, feelings, and how they see things.)
Here’s an example of Eren from Armin’s POV:
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Altho one thing I understand for sure is his relationship with armin, the way he idolizes and adores him, putting him on the pedestrian (and doom him in the process)
My Eren’s POV art:
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brynnsasha191 · 3 months ago
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Mikasa doesn't deserve to live her life in complete grief and misery. And it's sad that people who claim to be her fans would wish that on her instead of her having a happy marriage with a man who loves her (Jean). It's not even a cute ship dynamic, it doesn't make eremika better, it's just sad, and Eren himself told Mikasa to not let it happen.
Let women be happy. Argue with the wall.
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sonofthesaiyans · 1 year ago
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So, I took the time to watch the Attack on Titan finale today.....
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I don't know why, because everyone keeps saying that the anime ending was a huge step up from the manga's ending. Jeez, has it really been three years since that dropped the ball?
So I decided I needed to see for myself what it really changed, I had the time so I forced myself through it, to see what exactly the big deal all was; mostly what was different, and what it did that was so far removed from the comic.
Well I gotta admit, I was surprised by what I saw.
The animation was really impressive, much better than what I've seen of MAPPA's handiwork from the rest of this season. The whole thing just kept going bigger and bigger, and it just never seemed to slow down. It's definitely one of the most impressive battles of the series, especially when so much focus on fighting and ending the Titans seemed to be lost after so long. Plus I forgot how stunning MAPPA's backgrounds can be, almost like WIT's. I guess that's what you call "peak" in the anime circle now, huh?
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Levi......What can I say, he's an absolute badass, and the battle was worth it just to see him plow through Eren's army of Titans in all of his glory. Nothing can slow this guy down, and he definitely earned his ending. Sure he lost everyone who was near and dear to him but at least he can finally get some measure of peace. A much better finish than what the manga gave us, in its own weird way.
Was surprisingly touching to see the fallen Scouts again btw. Should have had Marco somewhere for Jean's sake, but maybe they can finally move on to a better place, wherever that may be.
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Well the Armin and Eren scene pulled no punches, did it? XD Bad puns aside, I was surprised at how emotionally charged that scene was, Eren seemed really sorry for everything. At least he finally owned up to it in the end. Such a shame he was left with so little choice in the end.
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And really, I realized how hard I was on Mikasa. She knew the life she thought she and Eren could have was beyond all hope, and in the end she made the right choice, agonizing as it was. In the end Mikasa really was too good for Eren, theirs is a love that was tragically cut short by circumstance. He couldn't help it, she couldn't help it.......Eremika truly is an unsung Shakespearean tragedy.
Oh don't you worry Eren, I'm sure she was thinking of you well beyond ten years. Who could fault her? We all know you meant well....
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So........now everyone's saying it took two thousand years if not more for this to happen, huh? Well I guess that sort of makes up for it.....At least nobody we knew and loved lived to see it, right? I guess we can stop blaming Eren for whatever brought this upon Paradis, right?
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Well, whatever the case may be, after finally seeing it I can say the anime ending makes up for a lot of what the manga left hanging. Great animation, such raw emotions, the insane music.......It was a long slog, but I'm glad I was proven wrong about everything I have said since the manga ending came out. This really helped to tie everything together much better, made the loss of such a wondrous cast a little easier to swallow. In the end, they gave their hearts, and in the end, it's much better to feeling something than to feel nothing.
So kudos to Studio MAPPA, and kudos to Hajime Isayama, truly I underestimated you. I feel like seeing this animated opened my eyes to so much of what I thought was missing. Suddenly things are so much clearer. Now.......Now I understand.......Eren only did what had to be done. Well played Mr. Isayama, well played.
And with that, I just want to leave with a quick shoutout to the true GOAT of Attack on Titan..........
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AS IF, YOU BITCH.
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And that's the LEAST of what you deserve, you cunt rag.
That title belongs to THIS girl, right here.
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As if there were any force between heaven and earth in this world or the next that could EVER make me forget.....
Oh, one more thing........
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April Fools, Folks.
This story ended with the Ocean.
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a0random0gal · 11 months ago
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It wasn't really stated when Eren developed feelings for Mikasa, honesty that confession scene with Armin felt forced.
And I always thought and saw Eren as being dense on romance in general. More interesting in fighting and killing than looking at girls
Yeah exactly. One of my main gripes with the shitty rushed finale is this out of nowhere love that Eren allegedly has for Mikasa.
Where did it come from? Where were the hints? How can you possibly tell me that he loved her romantically?
Don't get me wrong I don't think two characters have to aggressively blush at each other for 3 seasons straight before believing they like one another, but this plot twist is bullshit.
After the time skip Eren got more and more distant from his friends as a result of his future memories and the genocide he was destined to commit. He knew Armin and Mikasa wouldn't understand him, so he kept them at arm's length.
When it comes to Mikasa in particular, he showed a lot of irritation towards her, for how she constantly babied him throughout their lives.
I mean come on have you read chapter 112?
( I know he didn't mean it, but still, that's a pretty fucked up thing to say to a person you love.)
Trust is also one of the most important aspects of any relationship. And Eren never trusted Armin and Mikasa with pretty much anything post time skip, which is specifically why he pushed them away!
His love for her has always been platonic, so much so that in an interview from a few years ago Isayama said that their relationship was similar to that of a mother with her child.
But I guess Yams kinda forgot how Eremika worked for 130+ chapters uh?
That confession scene wasn't just forced, it was pathetic. It completely erased who Eren was as a character and replaced him with the cheapest copy on sale at Walmart.
(It's been three years and I'm still salty about that panel how is that possible?)
When it comes to Eren and the concept of romance, well.. Yeah pre time skip he was kinda dense, in the typical Shonen protagonist way, buut after the time jump you can clearly see that it's no longer the case from the convo with Falco in Liberio. Pre time skip Eren would have never reached that conclusion.
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(Wow, it's almost as if he understands Falco's struggle of not wanting a girl he loves getting titanized, I wonder if it's supposed to mean anything, uhhh.)
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harley-rose25 · 5 months ago
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more aot ending doesnt make sense thoughts
Wait... wait, ..so Eren knew that the Titan curse was going to be broken by the time he gets stopped during the rumbling, right? I'm pretty sure he said that. So, like, if that's the case, what was the point of going to Historia and, apparently, being like 'hey yo go get pregnant so the military wont feed Zeke to you and I can use him to rage stomp the world. k thanks'
He could've just had Historia turn into a titan shifter and then they could start the rumbling.
I mean I guess its so that their friends don't kill Historia to stop the rumbling but like Eren had full control of the founding titan he could have prevented that; actually they wouldn't even need to kill her they just need to separate her from Eren.
I guess Eren just wanted to manipulate her into having a baby for shits and giggles
To satisfy his growing breeding fetish?
So he could watch her fuck after he turns into a bird like in that one youtube video by i dont remember and im too lazy to look it up fuck you?
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starlight-bread-blog · 1 year ago
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Hey look!
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The Attack on Titan characters are moving on after the Rumbling and living a happy life!
Wonder what Mikasa's doing...
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Ah- wait- didn't she just-
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Yeah, yeah, she did. Right. So she'll probably be seen happy later-
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Oh. Okay. Got it.
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rosilotl · 1 year ago
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how the fuck is satosugu my cure for the grief i'm feeling for eremika. that's just mentally ill
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historia-jaeger · 1 month ago
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The discussion about Jeankasa's canon status
This post is an update from this post here. I also refer to the same article again.
___ Mikasa's children are adopted: There are many fans who obviously don't want to see Jeankasa married and think Mikasa should love Eren until the end of her life. That's why Mikasa's children must also be adopted. The reason given is the bandage around Mikasa's wrist, which is supposedly seen on one of the manga pages.
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Yes. It's true that Mikasa's mother gave her this Clan-mark when she was little. With the order to pass it on to her children. - But it wasn't said that she should take off her bandages after she has children. And then there is the question of whether she even wants to pass it on.
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And look at the child at the grave and the child in Jean's dream. It's the same child. The man next to Mikasa can't be Jean: 1. The man is to tall for Jean: Apparently the man is too tall to be Jean. This picture is taken as evidence:
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Of course, if I run on a sloping, mountainous landscape, then I am automatically taller than the person running one level below me. 2. The man is Armin: Supposedly the man is not Jean, but Armin, Mikasa's grief companion. Such images are used to confirm this thesis.
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In the first picture, Armin's hair is being blown back by the wind. That's not a hairstyle. And the second picture shows Mikasa and Armin before the timeskip, where Armin still had this piss-pot cut and therefore significantly longer hair.
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If we compare Armin and Jean to the man next to Mikasa... Which is more likely? That Armin stands next to Mikasa, who has a lighter hair color and recently had a short army cut, or Jean, whose hair color and hairstyle completely match his last hairstyle? Especially when you look at the proportions. Armin needs to grow a lot. Which is rather unlikely. The flower theory: 1. Mikasa's grave flowers: There are two different versions of the scene where Mikasa lies in the grave. In the manga, she lies in a bed as lilies. she has her hands folded in front of her chest. In the anime, Mikasa wears a ring on her ring finger and her grave is made of roses. These same roses are also on her chest.
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The theory of the Antis states that the lilies in Mikasa's grave would represent her virginity. Qoute: They are chosen for both weddings and funerals and symbolize the renewal of the soul. They can represent purity, commitment and rebirth, so they are often used to express compassion. - Source These lilies could just as easily represent Mikasa's wedding to Jean. But it is more likely that they are grave flowers. The same with the white rose. 2. Flowers for Eren's grave: One theory is that Mikasa placed four roses on Eren's grave, which signify that nothing will come between them (the lovers). And yes. This meaning is also correct. This is supposed to be a sign that Mikasa won't have another man other than Eren. - Aside from the fact that this theory is a bit of an asspull, it's not even true. Those aren't four roses on Eren's grave.
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I see a tulip and two sunflowers...
The chasety ring theory: If you look at the picture of Mikasa in her grave, you will notice that in the manga Mikasa doesn't wear a ring and in the anime she does. Is that a wedding ring? Antis think it's a chastity ring. Unfortunately, that can't work, because Attack on Titan obviously takes place in Germany. The last date I could record was the year 850. So the 9th century. Source
The “True Love Waits” movement, which also included the chastity ring, only became active in Germany in the 21st century. So in our current era. Source
The wedding ring already existed in the 9th century. However, it was more commonly worn by nobles. Which is why Mikasa didn't wear a wedding ring in the manga. Source In the AOT-Guidebook it´s stated that Mikasa's martial status is single: I don't have the book, but @mizzraynelly wrote the following: The Final Character Guidebook published on June 9th, 2021. No page mentions about Mikasa’s marital status, even her pages. It’s only birthdate, height, weight, and the Corps she belongs to. Other arguments: Other arguments revolve around theories that have not been proven and/or are difficult to refute. This includes statements like: Jean would never betray Eren by marrying Mikasa. Mikasa still loves Eren, because she still wears his scarf and has love lyrics engraved on his gravestone. Or that she had let burried her next to Eren, because she wants to be by his side forever... Jean may have realized that Mikasa loves Eren and respects that. However, he never made a statement that he would not marry Mikasa after Eren's death. I would like to see the proof.
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But he often criticized Eren's behavior towards her. For example, when he tried to kill her as a Titan. So it's pretty unlikely that he wouldn't take his chance.
It is not certain where Mikasa was buried. You can only speculate, that her grave is next to Eren's. Therefore, this should not be presented as fact. She wrote the love lyric on Eren's gravestone in her grief. But that doesn't rule out a new love. And falling in love again doesn't automatically mean no longer loving the person who died. That's why she's welcome to walk around with her scarf. ___ Now that's how many theories I've dispelled? And on one topic. I wonder why people can't accept the obvious. Mikasa married Jean and had children with him. - Complete.
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kittenfangirl20 · 2 years ago
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Ok, I saw another dumb set of reasoning that Eremikas use to try to make their ship look better and Erehisu supposedly look bad. They said that because Eren could use the Founding Titans powers against Historia that makes her submissive to him and because others talk about how strong Mikasa is and is immune to the Founding Titan powers as an Ackerman, that makes her more dominant. That is ignoring the fact that even with her physical strength, Mikasa is already extremely submissive towards Eren, she makes everything in her life revolve around Eren. Eren also admires Historia’s strong personality which is why I think it would make way more sense for him to fall in love with her. Also the memory wipe thing was an offer made by Eren that Historia could reject if she chose because if you really wanted to go by Chapter 139, Eren had no problem with altering the memories of his friends without their consent, which is another reason why Chapter 139 sucks. But Eren gave Historia the offer because he saw how much it upset her and she decided not to accept that, which I think would make Eren more in love with her not less. But I also shouldn’t be surprised that Eremikas come up with some pretty dumb reasons to try to make their ship look better.
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natsuki208 · 6 months ago
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(During ch139 while in Paths)
Eren: What would Mikasa think?
Armin: Ok, that’s an interesting thought, but hear me out: what if… I ran an experiment where I spent the rest of my life finding out what happened if i never told her?
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And that’s how the extra pages happened.
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mikasalone · 1 year ago
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thank god they didn't make armin thank eren for turning into a mass murderer and committing genocide
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aengelren · 1 year ago
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I have an important question, if you follow my blog, I want you to please answer it.
You can send me asks anonymously, please let me know and thank you 🙏
So help me out, I’m writing an ending analysis and wondering what questions or important things you feel I should add? Was there anything that confused you? Or something you feel is important I mention? Any theory or something you felt was good or bad? Any parallels? Anything, really. I would really appreciate if you answered this.
*edit, it can be general questions about Aot as well*
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