#anyway i wanna talk more about this show

[wallflowerlore]

i spent the weekend binging the only season there is of 2019’s swamp thing and, gosh, it was so made for me that i couldn’t stop being sad that it was it cancelled and how perfect would it be if guillermo del toro, certified monster lover, ever got a hold of the story and made a movie (or revived the tv show, idc). i feel like if there was a second season, they would have gone really there, y’know?

i mean, look at this poster season 1! it was made to attract people like me!

[doomedclockworkdotmp3]

i didnt write my essay for this 👍👍

im so festive with my red and green color combos n whatnot

[lactoseintolerentswag]

when they've got interpreting spiderman noir under a specific cultural lens at the function [picture of me going insane]

I cant help myself.. what can i say. And since you've mentioned some research going on behind the scenes.. do you have any fun interpretations? Or even anything fun about the 1800s!

OH HI

Hm. I don't have anything as fun as historical dancing, but I suppose this does give me the excuse (thabk u) to blab about Noir's childishness.

(wow putting this under the cut bc it got longer than I thought it would LMAO)

I think what a lot of people (including Noir's contemporary writers and yes even the spiderverse interpretation) fall for when trying to read Noir's character is the imitation of his idea of what an adult is, that he hides behind. Like Noir's persona is incredibly exaggerated. He's playing pretend. Look here, he's practicing.

A lot of his persona as Noir is imitation! Imitation of his uncle, of Urich, of the violence he's been exposed to. He's running around in his uncle's old uniform. Fundamentally misunderstanding WHY his uncle had been ashamed of it and his role in the war.

And then he goes ahead and steals Urich's alias because it sounds Cool (which is such a teenage thing to do jesus christ).

But like that imitation of The Adult isn't something that's limited to that exaggerated persona that Noir encapsulates. Peter himself is trying So Hard to be grown up and tough and responsible that it loops back around to him being a brat who would try the three guys in a trench coat trick. He even gets beat up for it when trying to defend his aunt. And I mean I've posted about him being a brat.

About how he looks at Urich as a Prime Example of what a strong and knowledgeable adult is (which is part of why he reacts so volatile in response to Urich showing he's not exactly as morally righteous as himself, he's wounded and let down). Whiskey? Whiskey sounds like someone Mature and Cool would drink, I'll have it too. And then proceeds to throw his drink at Osborn and laugh about it. The illusion was broken for me then.

But well it's not broken for everyone. I mean like obviously I poked at the contemporary writers, but I'm more talking about the other characters in the narrative. Mainly Urich and Felicia.

Urich taking Peter under his wing isn't entirely under the motivation to nurture Peter. I think it Becomes that, but he's really envious of that kid. He wants to see him lose that hope that he once had (ruh roh the opposite thing happened, being around the kid made YOU more hopeful Ben. Guess you gotta be good. Hope you don't die now).

Urich really is exposing him to an extremely harsh reality, and taking him places where adults are typically only allowed. He's letting Peter get a glimpse into what it's like, which will eventually enable Noir's tool of violence. All these tests will accumulate into what Peter thinks someone powerful and strong can be and do.

Then his problematic relationship with Felicia (writers I'm malleting you for this). He's clinging to her adulthood and the safety she represents, and he's young but she sees some adult strength in him. I mean she trusts him with the blackmail Urich gave her, which she really. Shouldn't, even if that's what Urich wanted.

Anyway, strength is something she's been consistently drawn to her in her partners. Strength to feel as her own. Even if it's to hers and others' detriment. There's also a part of Peter that's drawn to Felicia because Urich was. He's still honing in the good parts of Urich he wants to be.

I think the one person in the narrative who doesn't fall for it? Is Aunt May. You could argue it's just her being naturally motherly, but for someone who was about to be eaten alive she's pretty frank with Noir. I think she can see that that violence and exaggerated grittiness comes from someone inexperienced and young. Even if she can't consciously recognize the similarities between Noir's persona and Peter's protectiveness of her. I don't think she wants to see that. I actually have a short comic script about that, but it probably will never see the light of day.

Ugh he's like a cat puffing up to scare away a predator. It's fake!!!!! It's all fake!!!!!! He gets intimidated by JJ, he never ties his shoes, gets powers and then immediately guns to beat the shit out of Osborn, sings about the sandman when he's getting his face bashed in, crawls to Felicia all pathetic and sad, and he made a costume to run over roofs at night in.

And it's funny how he's forcing himself to grow up, but also really sad because all the things he's being exposed to is already forcing him to grow up. He's witnessing things no kid should ever see or experience.

Then there's the time period to consider. The aftermath of WWI, being in the midst of the Great Depression, and WWII just around the corner. He's faced incredible hardship and is going to continue to face so much hardship, and he's going to mature faster than he ever should have. It should have made him crash and burn Hard when he became an adult, and to me he still does because I'm ignoring everyone after ewaof LMAO.

As for my research on the 1800s NY that's for my own spider iteration run I'm working on, so not too related to Noir until I reach the 30's :3

Hope that was satisfying!!

[beyondthislifetime]

People who truly dislike Edwina Sharma are wild. Heaven forbid an 18 year old be charmed after being almost relentlessly pursued by an older man. Three married women, including her mother, are for the match. THE QUEEN is for the match. The only person saying he isn't right for her is her sister and like I'm sorry but my sister could swear that a man wasn't that into me and I would not listen if he BOUGHT ME A HORSE!???!!?!!

[morninkim]

As a show of good faith toward the remaining Decepticons at the beginning of a new, united Cybertron, newly appointed Senators Bumblebee and Soundwave allowed Shatter and Dropkick to enlist into Autobot City's Defense Team.

These two turned out to be... not the best choices.

The city may have fallen to Insurgent Decepticon occupation had it not been for young recruits Hot Rod and Arcee's accidental interception of Shatter's communication with the fugitive Starscream.

To replace the errant Defense Team members, Springer and Blurr were reassigned from Iacon to Autobot City in their stead.

[faaun]

the way that diff languages sound r so fascinating they're all different and all so vivid

[rayllumoon]

I finally finished watching S6 oH MY GOSH.

That was SO GOOD. Definitely best season of the second arc! The Rayllum moments were to die for. 🥹💖 The pacing was really good. The story arcs were so good. Everything was SO GOOD. I am worried about the future of so many characters tho. So many potential death flags 😬 That extra quasar diamond is definitely going to be used.

[beigetiger]

As much as I adore SP and wish that it would get an animated show, I do not think that society is ready for that series to be mainstream. Purity/respectability politics are already really prevalent in fandoms and media comprehension is not always at its best, and SP is like…really problematic. Mainly intentionally, but there are also numerous aspects that were legitimate failures on Derek’s part that would get people eviscerated in any larger fandom.

Hell, Skulduggery and Valkyrie’s relationship ALONE would probably be enough for any decent-sized fandom to nuke itself, let alone any of the other many, many parts of this series that are absolutely insane. The fact that this is a kid’s series is wild.

I personally love this series, but I don’t think it’s for the faint of heart and my friends/family are always appalled whenever I try to explain literally any of the plot or characters to them.

[zrllosyn-art]

i love gen narumi because he truly is customizable.... any hcs, as long as they're in character, are true if you think & reach hard enough. like. butch gen. (not elaborating) and gen who's definitely in the know about the thomas jefferson miku binder thing. and gen who was like 17 witnessing Dashcon through tumblr (he didn't even speak a lick of english at that time)

YEAGH he is,, so fun, ,, he's multi-fasceted which lets you kinda, have flexibilty to mess around with him but also. Dumbass. I love that for him

he is most DEFINITELY chronically online though lmao. He feels like the type of person to poke around websites outside of japan and just, find himself in really weird websites.

Personally i feel like he would be the type to go on reddit for games he plays and google translate a buncha posts just to get angry at people with opposing opinions and get into arguments but like. Having to machine translate everything the whole time

I am betting he's unwilling to loose arguments even with a language barrier lmao

(he is going to learn so many swear words)

[drakyns]

lays down on the floor. do you guys ever think about medieval scandinavian traditions regarding violence and vengeance? and how those customs are ingrained in viking and tribal societies to the point of them being the norm? and how håkan/hiccup, especially being the son of a chieftain, was exposed and extensively taught those, yet chose mercy and hope when he could? it's not that he COULDN'T kill a dragon—no, hot brutality runs so deep in his veins—is that he WOULDN'T. but also, do you ever think about how he tried to extend that grace to everyone he met, but realised that he ought not to? do you think part of him was secretly happy, relieved and fulfilled when drago and grimmel died? do you think he felt violent when his father died and when toothless almost died? do you think he wanted to make his fists bruised and his teeth taste flesh? do you think he felt vindictive for honouring his father's death? do you think that, maybe, just maybe, håkan realised that the dragons were never considered tribal enemies, but yes beasts, so all that gut and heart came more easily to him? and now that he has blood on his hands, he realised that he isnt that much different from his father, because he chose to protect (and maybe even avenge) his own kind and land? do you think that peace is made out of pretty speeches or conscious claws? do you think he realised it's the latter? do you think he tries to be a shield, but sometimes he must be a sword? do you think he kneels down at night by his father's chair, and talks to him, saying he finally understands? how easy it is to let it boil, to let it fester? do you think he's dragon and man, and that involves the anger, the hunger, the fear, but also the mercy, the cleverness, the courage and, most importantly, the shaky balance between giving up to that primal fire and the cool collected heart to choose change? do you think mercy and peace come unstained? do you think—

[cerealmonster15]

i forgot grunt meant like henchman or whatever for a second i thought they were like yeah leonas bitch ass grunts and growls are partial proof to savanaclaw being an athletic leaning dorm lol

[sophfandoms53]

I wish Hazbin had more than 8 episodes this season bc 1) the pacing is all over the place (outside of episode 4) and 2) it would’ve been so nice to actually see when and why Alastor started to genuinely care about the hotel.

The pilot and the first episode of the show characterize him as sticking around for the entertainment because of how silly the idea of redeeming a sinner is to him but then episode 5 has him fully backing up Charlie’s wishes for the hotel and even tells Mimzy she’s welcomed to stay if she actually wants to try redemption and was upset she had put the hotel in danger with her presence.

I think that turnaround in Alastor’s perspective is so interesting but when did that happen? Why did that happen? How did that happen? What made him care?

He clearly still has ulterior motives, there’s 0 denying that given his scene with Husk in the same episode, but he does seem to actually care about Charlie and her hotel. Which can be connected to the leash Husk claimed Alastor is bound by but Alastor is also the most distant from the cast.

We never see him around everyone for more than a few minutes at a time. Everyone went out to the club in episode 6 but Alastor is nowhere to be found in the entire episode.

That bond with anyone in the hotel, even Charlie, that would explain Alastor’s sudden support in the hotel has not been shown on screen and I really wish the show had more time to do that.

That’s really what Hazbin lacks. Time. Time to slow down and just let the characters breathe. Everything is moving so fast because they probably didn’t know a second season was coming until later which I can understand but that also means the plot takes priority over the characters and a majority of the cast is suffering from it.

Angel’s the only character who’s gotten an episode solely about him and exploring, expanding, and developing his character and his bonds in the hotel are what we see the most. This makes sense given he’s the main guest in the hotel but no other character has been able to have their own character and arc be explored the way Angel has.

The show needed more episodes like Masquerade to explore the cast before diving headfirst into the Heaven vs. Hell redemption conflict. That was always going to be the direction the show went in but they needed so much more time to do it because there are so many characters to juggle and so much is happening. Big moments that are supposed to matter don’t hit as hard as they should bc the cast is overstuffed and everyone is fighting for screen time.

This isn’t the teams fault, they’re doing a decent job with the limit time they were given but 8 episodes is not enough time for a show this ambitious with everything it’s trying to do. Doubling the episode count to 16 would’ve done wonders for the pacing and the show could slow down and take its time.

A lot of what Hazbin presents are good ideas. It’s all interesting but none of it is given enough time because the big Heaven and Hell plot has to take a majority of the shows focus. I do hope season 2 fixes this but that’s also gonna depend where the show is going after season 1 is over. We’ll see next week.

My main wish for the show going forward is each character gets their chance to be explored just as Angel has.

[creative-hanyou-girl]

I don't know if anyone else feels this way but I think a big reason why I'm so chill about the changes made to the PJO show from the books is because I kind of look at each other as their own seperate canon.

Like, I read a lot of anime and manga, and anime adaptations have a huge habit for changing plot points for various reasons, and as a fan of said anime and manga, I've found that I can enjoy both versions of the same story even with the differences when I look at them as their own universe or canon. That's not to say I don't want them to be faithful or true to the source material, but if a scene or situation plays out differently for a logical or entertaining reason, than I can still appreciate that deviation from the manga even if I still like the other original version of that part more. And I can even like the reversal way if I feel an anime does something better than even the manga. But if I want to, I can look at certain moments as more canon than others because I got 2 different versions of that same scene or moment.

And, I don't know, I kind of apply that reasoning to the PJO series as well, mainly with the books, the show, and even the musical (not the movies put that right back where it came from). So far I'm loving the TV show, and while I miss some of the things they changed (like the pink poodle), this adaptation really is doing a great job with staying true to the heart and spirit of the original book that I personally am not even really bothered by the changes, especially when I remember that the books will always still be there with it's own version, or canon, of events.

Like, I will say 1 thing I adore in the books that isn't really in the show is the fact that a lot of Percy and Annabeth's "rivalry" during TLT has more to do with the rivalry between Poseidon and Athena. I just really like on how this adds a level of "forbidden friendship/love" to their relationship 'cause I personally eat the forbidden relationship trope up, especially when it's done well like with Percabeth.

Yet, even if this isn't really the reason percabeth have beef with each other in the show, I can still appreciate and enjoy that according to the show's canon, they have issues because they genuinely have problems with each other as actual people rather than their parents' rivalry, because at the end of the day, that's the PJO TV show canon, and I can always turn to the books for that version of Percabeth's "rivalry", as that is the PJO book canon.

Same goes for the characters too. I will always have and love my dark haired Percy and blond haired Annabeth in the books, but I can also welcome and love Walker's Percy and Leah's Annabeth from the show. And so far, they along with Aryan are KILLING IT as those characters.

I can love both versions of the characters.

I can love both versions of the same story.

I can look at both versions as they own seperate canon or mix them together if I so wish too (especially since both versions of PJO are written by the same guy)

And that's ok. The adaptation doesn't have to be a complete copy of the books. It doesn't have to have things play out eactly the same way. The characters don't have to look exactly the way they are described as in the books. And that's ok. I will still always have the books to love and appreciate, but I can also start to love and appreciate the new adaptation for it's new spin and twists to the same story that sets it apart as it's own canon while still staying true to the spirit of its predecessor.

Anyway, sorry if I'm not making a lot of sense. I just think the people complaining about the changes in the show are looking at it all the wrong way. The show has it's own canon just as the books have their own canon, or even the musical. At the end of the day, isn't that kind of cool to have different versions of the same story and characters? Doesn't it give you so many more options to look at the story in different ways that you can prefer or choose from? Doesn't it give you new versions of canon that you choose from? And really, as long as the PJO adaptation, or any adaptation for that matter, stays true to the heart and spirit of the original story and characters, do the changes made really matter?

[pa-pa-plasma]

i don't think i'll ever get over how people treat kids that aren't good in school as worthless no matter what. "oh it can't be that bad" my guy idk how to tell you this but the last time i went to a normal high school the principal called me into his office to brag about how he failed me in all of my classes before the semester was even finished & i should quit while i'm ahead cuz i'm too stupid ("officially" diagnosed as such by a school counselor & a psychiatrist!!) to succeed. & this is considered normal

[transannabeth]

hi. for people who saw gatsby: an american myth. do you remember mckee asking nick for lunch. and then gatsby in like the next scene inviting nick for lunch. because i remember.

[venbetta]

I'm just gonna explain the oc cameos in the recent episode cuz I rarely talk about them anymore

and I miss them, I don't draw them a lot

First off we got Henry (16), he's the only dude there. He showed up before in Ch 2 ep 9 as a cameo. I've made a few post about him in the past, but he's one of my favorite ocs (..I also gave him a lot of trauma in his backstory for my original stories and stuff)

In fnaf equivalent aus tho, he's pretty much an enthusiast. Bonnie (most iterations) is his favorite animatronic. He can be a jerk sometimes intentionally or not. Him gushing about it in the episode was my favorite bit. I love Henry, sorry for the trauma tho, buddy.

Then we got Hazel (15), she's technically the youngest there. She's another oc I kinda beat up with lore and trauma a little bit in my original stories, but here, she's sweet as usual. She's also an enthusiast alongside Henry. Freddy's her favorite character.

Also, I've always paired her and Henry together because I ship them. They're the couple in my original works. I gushed about them all the time back before fnaf sucked me back in.

Next, we got Helen (15), second youngest, few months older than Hazel. They're half siblings.

Helen doesn't know jack about the fazbear brand in this au, and is just chilling with the group. In my original works, she's laid back and is often pretty blunt/impulsive (...most of them are neurodivergent-coded, i unconsciously made them this way). She teases Hazel maliciously.

Lastly, we got Ema (18), and she's the oldest of everyone there. In the original series, she's friends with Henry, and Helen's role model. She's pretty high up academically, and obviously a bit more mature. She also has some complicated lore that I won't touch on but yeah.

They don't talk much, and when they do, it's at Henry's expense (they love to make fun of him). I don't know why, but I like the idea of Ema liking Sun, especially since he's all bright and whimsical. I like it when aesthetics clash. She's probably not much of an enthusiast like Henry, but she'll let him talk her ear off.

Those are my oc cameos, they're my silly little blorbos. I've neglected them for a bit... and I feel bad. Oh well, back to the storage they go.