#anti-TPTB
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going forward
i know there are a lot of fuck heads that have used ideologies to separate.
as someone who is brown, trans, neurodivergent, aspec, and otherwise just weird af i would like to avoid any sort of bigotry.
be that as it may: we gotta do something about the idiots and the bigots.
i'm not sure how humanity is going to get passed this unless we address the elephant in the room. mainly that there are people voting and people in power that should not be voting or be in power.
or at the very least these people should be accounted for when making decisions that would be beneficial or destructive to humans and the environment.
what the fuck does this have to do with transhumanism? ok. mostly bc people think we are going to fuse with technology. it is more or less happening in front of our eyes.
but people are not ... intelligent enough to use the technology we have developed. many of the greatest things that would be of benefit to humanity have been patented or hidden by the us government or governments of the world.
people are too disconnected from one another in reality. people are too disconnected from themselves.
i am the sort that believes we can learn from our mistakes. we can grow. that means admitting that some people.. just do not have a knack for caring for other living things. for whatever reason.
we need to develop a society that gives a damn about LIFE before anything else. yeah. we dont necessarily need it to be based in a spiritual ideology. it def could be secular and scientific.
the only reason any of us is here is because of the diversity of life. now humans have the power to change our fate. and we are being very bad at it. which i totally get. i have self destructive behaviors. i can be a jackass or reckless.
but the scale and length of time humanity has done what it has... it is disappointing and horrible. the amount of death our species has wrought on this planet makes me sick to think about.
but i think humans are incredible enough that we can accomplish the impossible. i think what has been hidden is big enough to also help us accomplish this.
yes: math, magic, and madness
#transhumanism#futurism#solarpunk#hopepunk#anti capitalism#anti work#late stage capitalism#conspiracy#the powers that be#tptb#science#technology#ufo#spirituality#consciousness#society#humanity#civilization
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I wish I could just Infinity Gauntlet snap my fingers and make all these people disappear:
1. Fascists
2. Nazis
3. Bigots
4. People who think capitalism and democracy are the best we can do
5. People who abuse animals/kids/others for fun (or they know they're doing it and don't care)
#did i forget anyone#infinity gauntlet#fuck#trans#queer#become ungovernable#neurodivergent#anti capitalism#anti work#socialism#democracy#conspiracy#TPTB
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I forgot Grace had a car accident trying to save her friend and herself from a creep.
Danny finally expressed all his feelings towards Rachel betrayal. She should have told him about the car immediately. Danny was right to stop her when she tried to manipulate him about her past with Stan.
I smiled like an idiot at the behind the scene pictures used for the graduation video.
I really like the boys' conversation in the hallway. I particularly like that Steve was finally included in the family hug.
But I deeply hate tptb that still wants us to believe Danny & Rachel are endgame. The last shot of the episode completely ruins it for me.
This relationship is so toxic. It's built on so many lies.
To me, Steve's smile was more wistful than happy. But my McDanno bias is probably at play here.
#h50 rewatch#h50#hawaii five 0#s09e12#ka hauli o ka mea hewa 'ole he nalowale koke#anti rachel edwards#danny danno williams#danny williams#steve mcgarrett#mcdanno is eternal#mcdanno#why did i need to suffer through a cr episode to be immediately followed by a rachel one#the writers were cowards#fuck tptb#still so deeply upset that tptb didn't have the courage to use their incredible chemistry and make it cannon
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I love Fitz. I love Simmons. I don't love FitzSimmons.
Since I'm in a ugh mcu mood, another hot take: Fitzsimmons should've remained friends.
#anti Fitzsimmons#agents of shield#they were platonic soulmates only#i simultaneously loved and hated their first scene in the first episode because i knew tptb would force them into a romantic relationship#i lived in dread waiting for it to happen while hoping it wouldn't#and then it did 😡
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Why do you think fans knowing or speculating have never asked Caitriona in person about the daughter for example? I mean, it was and is so obvious. There is no obligation to keep quiet, so why has either no fan said anything or why hasn't media picked it up? It happened to other bigger and smaller celebs, and I don't buy that TPTB are so powerful to suppress all of that. Not at least the ones involved with the show.
Your "I don't believe that TPTB are so powerful" line really gave you away as a potential Anti. Either that or you are just delightfully gullible as to how big corporations work and the level of corruption that is absolutely everywhere in this world of ours. And where there is money to be made is where you find the wolves in sheep's clothing.
In what way is it so obvious to the unsuspecting person that she has a daughter? To those who are remotely interested (and it's not too many people), It's obvious that her body underwent very notable changes multiple times, which are consistent with those seen in pregnancy. But most people tend to believe what they are told and the rest couldn't care enough to investigate whether she has a cat, a dog or 10 children.
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Omg!!! Such great news!
Dear @herethereeverywhere22,
I saw her post almost as soon as she published it. Well, then: karma is a bitch, isn't she? Who would have thought, just six months ago, that such a thing was ever possible?
First and foremost thought: she is apparently not useful, anymore. Too loud. Too proud. And yes, ten years at the epicenter of the Narrative must take a heavy toll on your credibility. Especially since that Remarkable Week-end, and especially since everything you say from that particular moment in time is, IMHO, not even planted, but totally freelanced.
Second thought: it's not too early, it's even late. She's been here since Day One, the ever available Useful (but also Fearless) Idiot TPTB could count on to spread the Anti gospel. She was the main reason many people left this fandom in tears and dismay and frustration. She was the Ur-Troll, the Uber Bully and I find some poetic justice in the fact that the alleged health problem is about her eyes.
Third thought: she did nothing good for S. She durably dented his professional profile and credit, describing him as a piece of meat, a thirst trap and, ultimately, a bore. The amount of childish and parochial bullshit this woman has fed her gullible audience is industrial. It is also very easy to debunk - the Hotel Costes fanfic comes immediately to mind - and I tried my best, something that earned me a 'worst of the worst' mention, if I remember well. For ten long years, she drooled an ocean over his biceps, his Golden Dirk, his supposed sexual prowess. This had to end somehow, someday. Has it?
Fourth thought: with a cool head, I wouldn't be so sure. She is a narcissist and a narcissist always needs a scene, a spotlight and an enraptured crowd. Maybe she found another victim/fandom. Maybe she is just strategically lurking in the shadows, waiting for the right moment to jump back in. Only time will tell. For the moment, her OL reign didn't end in a blaze of glory, but with a fizzle. And make no mistake: the real winner is Marple.
FWIW, I am leaving here two links for two posts about *urv @tpquill wrote quite a while ago. She knows *urv (or Margot, or Elaine Cha Ching or whoever the fuck else she was impersonating on Pufflander's Just Make It A Double) since her Twilight fandom days. Irrespective of anything else, this gives her opinion the required gravitas:
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And *urv: yours is the second Tumblr blog I found after BIF and the contrast between sterile and filthy was brutal. Good riddance?
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Hi! I just wanted to say that I like your attitude and resilience (I'm a weak man, and every toxic anti-buddie/anti-buddie-shippers/pro bucktommy idea just hits me straight in the heart).
I don't understand how people can suddenly start hating Buddie because of "crazy fans", but still be smitten by bucktommy despite of how crazy some of their fans are.
And I really hate that they have this ammunition (their ship still going, Eddie happening to be hetero) to bully us with (haven't Buddie shippers been through enough of hate these past six years? And who knows how much more of it we'll have to yet to go through...)
Ah, sorry for the rant😅
The long ass message anon from lenaboskow's asks xD
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awwwww, thank you anon 😭 <3
if i’m being honest, the public resilience comes from years of being bullied and ridiculed, so at this point hate (especially anonymous hate) just rolls off my back bc atp it’s just par for the course with these people.
i definitely understand the toxicity hitting you right in the feels though. i have mentioned before but i have really bad anxiety and depression, and there are times when if i haven’t taken my meds i will start to spiral over the smallest things (just ask @lenaboskow who has been present for a lot of this unmedicated spiraling)… so i definitely understand that some of the toxicity and hate can be hard. especially when the writers continued to give them ammunition after seeing what what was happening on twitter during the premiere period of season 7.
I’ve been a buddie shipper since s2. I have put up with seeing ridicule and disrespect from the fandom for shipping buddie for years (granted i only started getting actively involved in the fandom very recently, i still kept up with cast interviews, articles, etc. and could see plenty of it there) so i understand it can be hard seeing so many people that once were hardcore buddie shippers suddenly turning into violently hateful stan accounts for this new ship is jarring and disappointing… i have seen so many of my favorite fic writers turn into anti-buddie-eddie-bashing enthusiasts seemingly overnight and it’s hard to see.
that being said, i still have not lost hope. abc and tptb see what is happening— they see screeners being harassed for talking about buddie, they see buddie shippers getting doxxed and getting death threats, they see lou stirring the pot (though thankfully it seems something has been done about that)
these creators know that stoking this kind of fandom behavior is not okay- they know that it’s a bad idea to reward toxicity and hate. they have also been the ones actively laying the groundwork for buddie for six years. a lot of the writers actually care about buck AND eddie, rather than just buck (regardless of whatever is going on in kristen reidel’s cesspool of a creative mind), and we know that queer eddie has been discussed at length before to the point where the queer storyline of s7 was almost eddie’s. these writers see what we see, the actors see what we see, tim minear sees what we see.
i don’t know what they have in store for next season, but regardless of whether or not we get buddie canon, i am very optimistic that the pilot won’t be around much longer, especially after the drama and toxicity he has stirred up within the fandom, bc the last thing a network tv show wants is bad press, and that situation has the potential to boil over into something much worse if they didn’t put a stop to it immediately.
anyway, anon, never apologize for sending a long ask, i love to yap and i love being an outlet for people to vent if they need to <3 i believe in you, that you will be able to withstand this blip in the fandom; as someone who’s had to go through similar situations in other fandoms it will not matter a year from now once everyone has moved on. unfortunately we are caught upnin the novelty of it, but once it either peters out or becomes a sort of “new normal” (which i hope it is the former and not the latter) it will be so much easier to bear with.
i hope you have a lovely morning, afternoon, or evening, sweet anon 💕💕
#911 abc#911#911 on abc#911 spoilers#911 season 7#eddie diaz#evan buckley#buddie#buddie 911#buck and eddie#911 buddie#anti tommy kinard#anti bucktommy#anti lou ferrigno jr#eddie x buck#eddie diaz x evan buckley#buck x eddie#anon ask#asks answered#eddie diaz is my husband
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finished the Lindsay Ellis’ Hobbit video essays trilogy
I am not. fine
I’m watching Lindsay Ellis’ video essays on The Hobbit trilogy and ugh. My heart hurts. I usually overlook the issues with the trilogy because I love what it did with Thorin, and Fili and Kili and other details, but to think we could’ve had Del Toro’s duology??? And how passionate he was about it??? And that it was going to be tonally different from LotR, because The Hobbit IS different from LotR?? 😢
And like, it’s sad to me in particular because The Hobbit is the work from Tolkien I least like, and good movies could’ve made me care about it (in a way that didn’t require ignoring all the stupidity the trilogy had)
#anti capitalism#look I was already in zero mood to work due to tolkien feelings#I am not functional right now#I’m not as cynical to the whole thing as she got#because despite everything I still see movies as the collective work of so many passionate people#even if executives and greedy tptb are staining it#but it was painful learning all of that still#I’ll have to reread The Hobbit and fanfic the Del Toro duology with the cast#and gods I miss Aotearoa so much
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Do you think The OC aged well?
I am probably the last person to pose this question to, lol. I guess it depends on the individual and what they want out of their media. I've never been able to ignore how this show hated its female lead character and it's been apparent to me this year more than ever that it stemmed from their mistreatment of their female lead actress. I am unable to ever separate the two now, and I reckon we still only know like 5% of the shit that went down on that set 20 years ago.
I think a show that consistently tortures its female lead without recompense is sick, especially one that purports itself to be about family and friendship and love. It's extremely obvious when writers have hate boners for specific female characters. So that does not age well to me and Marissa is 95% of what I care about when it comes to this show. I'm not impressed with hardly any female rep here either. That also comes from my preferences. I think arguments could be made about Julie/Summer/TT but I respectfully don't feel like sharing my opinions about the trajectory of all that. I think Kirsten is a great example of what ~can~ be done with a character and how that potential is squandered at every opportunity.
Julie/Luke ages horrendously. It being played off as a joke in 2023 and beyond is just... so gross. And considering JS only made Luke 18 because he had to is really gross on its own but even worse when you contextualize it with the irl relationship happening on set that very season.
The DJ storyline is terrible and the show clearly knows it from the jump but keeps it going for... some reason. And speaking of, they dropped the ball on race. There are quite a number of racist jokes/lines that absolutely make me cringe. Like anti-Asian jokes. We're supposed to believe Ryan is from Chino and dated a Latina and had friends in the neighborhood and they just... barely ever touch on cultural differences. And barely ever touch on class differences. It's more showing us that rich people are just as miserable as everyone else. And sure that's entertaining and JS/SS have made careers off of it but... sigh. I don't think the messaging of either show actually works for how we're supposed to think it's working, but whatever.
What ages best is probably the Ryan/Seth dynamic but that's mostly irl chemistry imo and the classic Odd Couple trope. Not exactly rocket science to figure out why it endures in viewers' minds. For a show that can be so melodramatic, the only thing that consistently grounds us is Ryan/Seth and that's what TPTB have latched onto since everything else turned to trash *sent with invisible ink*
Basically my long answer is no it did not. But I imagine it did for others who care about other things I don't care about. The Marissa/Mischa of it all will grate on me forever. And imo they can never really be separated thanks to contexts we've gotten in the past couple of years.
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IWTV 2.8: And that's the End of it. There's Nothing Else.
Well. Damn.
"Arson is a crime of passion."
We always knew how this was going to end and it was both satisfying and anti-climatic. The fire? I wanted more of it. I wanted to watch the Theatre des Vampires WRITHE while it burned. The tragedy of Claudia's death, the snuffed potential of her immortality, in episode seven demanded it. The way she fought for herself and Madeleine, the way she fought SO HARD to be heard demanded a reckoning reflected from the eyes of her tormentors. I wanted the coven, and especially Santiago to SUFFER.
The ending was peculiarly cold in comparison to Alderman Fenwick back in season 1. His death was so personal in a way that the fire, despite its passion, was not. Maybe its because most of the coven were locked in their caskets so we only got their screams when I wanted them to SEE their executioner and look him in the eyes while he tore them to pieces. Claudia DESERVED that level of retribution.
pirateshelly wrote about Claudia's storyline here:
https://www.tumblr.com/pirateshelly/758254364119990272?source=share
GO Read it.
I include my comment there because I think the post perfectly encapsulates what was wrong with Claudia's story arc. To note, despite the insistence of The Great Laws, there was nothing wrong with Claudia, and that break has everything to do with the change in her circumstances from book to show and the failure of the show runners to account for that change as explicitly as they did for Louis.
In the books, Claudia is turned at 5 years old. In the Neil Jordan movie, she's 11. In the show, she's meant to be 14. 14 isn't so young that she can't age into and move through society. I looked 16 when I was 20, it's not a far fetch. The writer's needed something else to convince us that Claudia was truly going to break from having an immortal life. There were really small suggestions, but mostly we were just TOLD this would happen. That old show don't tell rule would have fixed alot here. But then we got Madeleine and it was a beautiful future that unfolded. Better than Claudia needing a mommy, Claudia had a friend, maybe a future lover, someone who FINALLY put her FUCKING FIRST!
Claudia in season 2 was otherwise woefully underutilized.
Shifting Louis' backstory, the era he lived in, his race, his sexuality, and then making explicit the nature of his relationship with Lestat blew the story wide open. There was so much room for this story to be made relevant and truthful. Rolin Jones said that changing Louis's story was a choice to place it in a "time period that was as exciting aesthetically as the 18th century was without digging into a plantation story that nobody really wanted to hear now". I'd like to get an amen right now because as a Black person in America I am REAL tired of every historical story of the black experience being located during slavery, the Civil Rights movement, or the modern, urban ghetto. There is a place for those stories, they are important and necessary and we HAVE to continue to have those conversations and remember those histories. But I also want new things shown new ways and nuanced to reflect the millions of different experiences that make up the lived experience.
Louis was made active and full of agency and anger. Making him a businessman with a certain amount of power and authority and then having him deal with TPTB in the skin he was born in was exquisite. He lived in multiple worlds and we really got to see and understand that, but it wasn't all misery. The circumstances of his mortal birth were allowed to live and breath on the surface of his skin in a way that Claudia was not gifted. Season 1 told the story of what it meant to be a queer, black man in America. It glanced very briefly on what it meant for Claudia as young and black and female. Three different states of being that impacted her different ways and then coalesced into what could have been greater than her sense of disconnect from Louis or her rage at Lestat. Arguably, Season 2 did more to interrogate her status. A second class citizen as a mortal and made doubly so by the condition of her re-birth.
Episodes 3 and 4 make the most of her, I think. The potential for her immortal life is suggested in episode 6, but perhaps in a meta reading of the stoey at large, there is no room for Claudia. She haunts the interview in the same way that she haunts Louis and as we later learn, Lestat. In the books, Claudia's ghost is imprinted upon her makers, but she is seldom truly centered.
That she is an underused and voiceless character being marched towards an end established from S1E1, it's like the nuance of her life isn't as compelling a thing to explore. I don't know. I think there's a lot to ruminate on and dig out about Claudia in the series, but too much of it is sublimated to the men's stories. I wanted more of it to be explicit. She is an excuse for Louis rage in the last episode, a powder keg for Louis to strike himself against. The last straw.
I loved that Louis was a little mad when he got out of the crypt. The voices and the visions could have lasted longer.
"All the madness and rage exited my body and nothing replaced it." What must that be like? To love someone so much and to know that they didn't love you as much? For Armand to know that Louis only picked him to spite Lestat. In reality not even second best because that place belongs to Claudia.
Fuck.
And then Armand and the truth. I wasn't surprised. Last episode, I was surprised that it was apparently Armand who turned the tide in Louis's sentencing. I initially thought it was Lestat because I didn't think Armand had that much power considering the size of the group. Maybe that's my novel bias kicking in. So when the reveal was that it was Lestat after all … again, not surprised.
And then it takes us all the way back to Omikase. Chef's choice because Louis leaves believing what Lestat wants him to believe. How he ultimately tells Louis that he "gave" him to Armand. A toxic ass phrase especially charged by the race bending, but even on its own … who the fuck gets to say or do that? Lestat for all that he loves, has no clue how to take care of people or treat.
In the end, Louis doesn't kill Armand, although he has every right. I LOVED those closing scenes. The MS and Armand's hand written notes. Daniel's triumphant reveal of Armand's duplicity. I NEVER liked Armand because -- MIND CONTROL -- although there were times were I felt sorry for the dude. He legitimately seemed to love Louis. But, hey, then you don't make a sacrifice of your lover to your old friends. The fact that he really was going to sit there and let them kill Louis? Yeah, nah, I'm good on him.
Lestat is still just as terrible. Once again, he chooses Louis over Claudia. Always someone else over Claudia and it's not until it's way too late does he understand that he was her father, too. Fucking asshole.
I'm excited for season 3. Someone posted how Louis's story is wide open and how anything is possible for him given the reimagining in the show. I 100% agree. The Vampire Chronicles were written as the Lestat Show. It's exciting to see them bring Louis to the forefront. I'm betting that they're not going to leave him tucked away in a crumbling plantation or even sitting at the top of a tower in Dubai. He issued a challenge at the end of episode 8 worthy of book Lestat at his most rebellious.
The potential is infinite for how this all can go. I can't wait to see it.
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this is not a “funny”, this is a depiction of actually the libtard philosophies at work
WATCH THE NARRATIVES
#science falsely so called#ANTI-HUMAN#TPTB ARE ANTI-PEOPLE#wef=luciferianism#HOW IS MSM LYING TO U TODAY?#HOW IS THE GOVT LYING TO U TODAY?
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Personally if I were a Dean/Cas stan I would be more worried about Misha being done with SPN, than about Jensen not shipping it. I don't think Jensen would want Dean to reciprocate, but he would try to have a proper reunion. He likes TFW. Misha, on the other hand, I can really see him thinking that part of his life is over - he thinks about chapters, and that one is finished, etc.
Anon 2(?): When they were allowed to talk about the show Misha was just as keen as J2 for a revival. To me, and others that I’ve seen, the first part of his text reads like a joke waiting for its punchline. As in, “so it turns out nothing’s ever REALLY dead on SPN, including SPN itself!” Besides, I highly doubt J2 would do a revival without Misha, as much as some antis wish they would.
There was a period where Misha was saying that Supernatural was over for him. He said that he was bored of playing the character. Yes, in PR, he said that he would've played Castiel in TW, but that's not what I heard he was saying outside of PR.
TBF, 2020 was a very stressful year for him and the writing for Castiel wasn't very good in later seasons. He was treated like shit in the early part of s15 by people in charge and had some difficult filming days. Mark S got fed up with how he and his character were treated by the narrative/TPTB, but Mark S openly talked shit about it while Misha has only hinted at it. Ruth complained on Misha's behalf early s15. Mark S was the one who talked about Misha being screwed over on pay.
I can see with distance and time and the right script both Misha and Mark S returning, but - and this is a big but - it would depend on who was in charge. Look at how Mark S is now doing the conventions!!!
I think they all just needed a break. I think J2 rebounded more quickly, but also, they have more power than Misha had.
Whoever they pick to help EP it is going to be very carefully selected. If Kripke does come back, he's not going to be the one in charge - J2 will be.
They won't treat Misha like Singer did. If there's a reboot, I doubt I will be the bitter Castiel stan I was in later years of SPN.
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After 38 episodes, I had forgotten how irritating MB's voice is and how CR is annoying.
Once again, tptb brought CR back when Danno is somewhere else. To me, it only proves how much Danny dislikes her. And how desperate they are to make the fan forget about McDanno.
Also I will never understand TV show insisting that women have their hair down while exploring the jungle.
How the heck did neither Catherine nor Steve noticed the trap? Steve is supposed to be a superSEAL.
Why introduce Adam's long-lost sister to kill her immediately?! She would have made a long run interesting baddie. Her existence made more sense than Daiyu Mei
#h50#h50 rewatch#hawaii five 0#anti catherine rollins#s08e20#he lokomaika'i ka manu o kaiona#steve mcgarrett#mcdanno is eternal#everything is mcdanno#adam noshimuri#fuck tptb#the writers were cowards
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If I watch the BOC to support Melissa and others do too and the ratings improve over season 1, will that tell AMC they’re doing alright as it is? How do we signal TPTB that yes, we watch for Melissa but we want a different showrunner for next season?
If the ratings go up for TBOC, it tells AMC that Melissa and Carol are vital to the show and we definitely want that. For BIG improvements though, like 1M+ for live/same day ratings? For S3 to be successful? The show needs a good showrunner who really understands Daryl's and Carol's characters as well as their relationship because that's what will keep their fans coming back for more of what they love and even bring back fans who dropped off a long time ago when quality Caryl content became scarce. AMC may think Carol just being there is enough of a hook (that's what happens when they make her fans worry for more than a year that they may never see her again), but Melissa cares about Carol's and Caryl's story integrity and so do we.
The way we signal that is by being vocal about it. We say what we want and don't want just like we did two years ago when Melissa was pushed out. See how that turned out? If you didn't like Zabel's writing in S1, say so and say why. If you're angry about something, talk about it. If you want a new showrunner, Caryl canon etc., talk about it. I understand there's this stigma around being "negative" and people are worried about losing an impossible war with antis or insulting Melissa, but 1) those are all just projections and 2) it's people's actual job at AMC to take their audience's temperature. If there's a lot of people letting them know how they really feel about something, that gives them an incentive to change it if we're responding negatively or give us more of something if we're responding positively. Tumblr is a much safer place for open discussion if you want to start there. If you tweet or comment on the official accounts' tweets, use relevant hashtags like #TheBookofCarol, #TWDCaryl. Frame your opinions however you're comfortable. Constructive criticism is good (I'm tired of shipbaiting because...) or you can try a more "positive" approach (I'm ready for canon because...). Either way, your voice matters. We're getting a TBOC sneak peek this weekend, so that presents a good opportunity to say everything you're excited about, hoping for, or need to keep tuning in.
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Except the "writers" never said that. An executive did after he got bullied off twitter for not knowing what destiel was. That executive is the only reason Dean and the rest were ever officially declared straight, all the way back in season nine. The writers were perfectly aware of what they were doing and queercoded Dean, Cas, and the show as a whole as hard as they could around that executive interference. The writers wanted us to see Dean and Cas as queer, so they wrote it into the show. It's such an insult to those same, oftentimes queer, writers for this fandom to keep insisting they think we're crazy for seeing the queercoding they intentionally wrote. The writers have never said we're crazy, save the one or two who were openly anti-queer Dean and destiel. The rest were fully on board and writing around blatant network censorship. The writers weren't the ones who edited all those clearly queercoded, filmed, and finished scenes that they wrote out of the show! And no, it wasn't Jensen either. He is not anti-queer Dean or destiel.
TL:DR It wasn't the "writers" who shut down queer Dean and destiel interpretations, it was the executives. That's who Misha was talking about when he tweeted "you're not crazy" back in season nine. Saying otherwise is entirely bronly/wincestie anti-destiel rhetoric that's been spreading for well over a decade with no basis in reality and it needs to stop already!
that's exactly what my post is about... like i'm literally defending the writers and hating on TPTB (and people who still claim dean is straight)
edit: apparently you were just adding onto and not disagreeing with my post! all good
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