#anti transfeminism

[ftmtftm]

Seeing shit that completely rewrites recent online trans history makes me so frustrated because I was there!!!!!!

Like what do you mean "theyfab was coined by frustrated transfems to express their frustration with transmisogynist nonbinary people"???? I was literally getting called a transtrender theyfab by 4channers as a 15 year old in 2013 because I was a feminine nonbinary kid with a dyed undercut??? In 2016 I was a shithead 18 year old that hated itself and was calling other trans people transtrender theyfabs to try and validate myself????????

It's literally a term born out of misogyny and the idea that feminine nonbinary people who were afab are faking being trans???????????

I didn't escape the depths of 2010's transmedicalism in my early 20's and start dedicating my time towards trying to repair the damage I and others caused just for y'all to completely rewrite that history to try and justify your own hatred of other trans people 😭

[smilepilled]

if your (trans-)feminism inherently excludes any minority group on the basis that one of their immutable traits makes them inherently evil, you are not a transfeminist. you are LARPing as one, but you aren't doing jack shit that has to do with feminism.

this includes trans people, nonbinary individuals, trans guys and transmascs, trans gals and transfems, intersex people (with or without any trans identity), gnc individuals, black trans people, brown trans people, asian trans people, indigenous trans people— and any combination of these.

if you exclude any group of people from your transfeminism or activism, you are not an activist. you are trying to seem like a good person while clinging desperately to your own hateful, putrid ideals. get better and over yourself

[sagegreenyaps]

When a cis man gets offended and says, "Not all men," it is generally in the context that he feels he is personally being attacked as an individual, and said to try and halt a conversation on sociopolitical issues that he is not generally a victim of (benefits from, even).

When transmascs get offended and say, "Not all men," it is generally in the context of them feeling erased from a sociopolitical perspective on the basis of their nuanced identity (not a cis man but not a woman-- or, in the case of some genderfluid / multigender individuals, not just a woman), and said to try and broaden a conversation on sociopolitical issues (because they are far deeper than just, "masculinity as a whole is evil, and men are trash") that they are being othered from, despite facing said sociopolitical issues as a victim of them.

Whether you acknowledge this or not, you having the same exact negative reaction to both instances is a reflection of a cisgender-centric worldview.

[oncelerfucker]

There's a lot of radical feminist thought brewing in trans circles on this forsaken website and none of you are inoculated against it because radfems have been infiltrating queer spaces here for over the last decade and now you don't know how to recognize radfem thought without overt transphobia.

You think feminism is when women create a feedback loop to justify acting within their fear and trauma responses (which is literally the line of thought that founded radical feminism btw) instead of viewing it as a political movement with several different schools of thought and several connections to and solidarity with other liberation movements.

Take 10 minutes to read There Is No Hierarchy Of Oppression by Audre Lorde [ here ] and truly think about what solidarity in action actually looks like. I'm begging you.

"I simply do not believe that one aspect of myself can possibly profit from the oppression of any other part of my identity. I know that my people cannot possibly profit from the oppression of any other group which seeks the right to peaceful existence. Rather, we diminish ourselves by denying to others what we have shed blood to obtain for our children. And those children need to learn that they do not have to become like each other in order to work together for a future they will all share." - Audre Lorde

[tr1ppykay]

ive seen a lot of people talk about the irony of calling trans men "TMRAs" as an insult because yeah, trans men need more rights, that's a good thing to advocate for, etc

but it ignores the fundamental issue with MRA politics. which is how they define the source of the issues men face.

MRAs as a group have successfully done step 1: they have identified situations that collectively hurt men... but they have SEVERELY fumbled step 2: identifying the source of their problems correctly.

this is the difference between MRAs and men's liberationists. both groups have correctly identified real systemic problems (NOT oppression. don't get it twisted) that men face, but MRAs went the reactionary anti-feminist route and claimed it's caused by "feminist women oppressing them," while men's liberationists went the intersectional feminist route and realized that the patriarchy's standards for masculinity is to blame.

and when it comes to trans men discussing transandrophobia theory, it only takes 5 fucking minutes of reading what we have to say to understand which route we consistently take.

[a-polite-melody]

I hate that what passes for intersectional transfeminism on this website is, “no men ever face gendered oppression and that includes trans men,” as if that doesn’t fly directly in the face of intersectionality in order to treat cis (perisex, white, abled, etc.) men’s experiences as a default.

And I feel so sorry for all of the MOC, especially TMOC, who I know have spoken up about this over, and over, and over, only for someone else to come along and claim that, “there’s no intersection of/with manhood to be had,” while only ever thinking of white pericishet men in making that statement.

[austin-friars]

So with the new Harry Potter series and the UK Supreme Court case...it's super important to know that JK Rowling funded and stood behind this decision, and rallied with many, many transphobic people to get this done. She poured money into this.

If you are going to support her series, you are actively participating in the silencing and erasure of trans people, especially trans women, who've been Rowlings common victims. Even if you are trans....

I say this because I often times see a lot of people who 'reclaim' Harry Potter, saying that they are lgbt+/queer/trans. And when I look on their blogs or what have you, yeah, they are trans, but rarely, if ever are they transfeminine people. Rowlings bigotry, though she goes after all trans people, is built on the violence of trans women, and eradicating their existence by painting them as violent predators.

So for all the people trying to 'reclaim' HP, because you think being a trans or queer person and reclaiming it makes it somewhat okay, it's not, especially if you aren't a trans woman.

And in general, trans, queer, or whatever, it is concerning if you are still supporting that series after this.

This was an attack specifically going after trans women, which will in turn go after all trans people.

The new series is coming out. And so many people, especially other queer/trans people are super excited. You are still part of the problem if you support it.

[taliabhattwrites]

This is the fourth time I've seen someone say that not having to lie to your doctor about your gender to get HRT is a privilege

Leaving the inadequacy of the 'privilege' framework aside

Folks

Folx

We're all lying to our doctors

The foundational work of transfeminism, Sandy Stone's Empire Strikes Back, talks extensively about the proud history of trans women swapping answer sheets and tips from the Harry Benjamin guidelines

Folx doctors hate us and don't want us to have care and trying to extract anything more than The Turing Treatment from them is like pulling teeth

Folx a lot of us aren't getting our HRT from doctors because they wouldn't give it to us

Folks stop having the most naive view of transition possible and engage with reality folx I AM BEGGING

[maripoorsa]

Happy pride!!

I wanna boost the writings of a very bright Black trans feminist that I've been going through the works of over the last year or so. Her name is Nsàmbu Za Suékama. This is a link to one of her articles on medium.

In my opinion she deserves a LOT more followers and support!

Because, just as colonial ethnographer Richard F Burton saw masculine roles as “outside” the gendered embodiment he projected on the so-called Amazons of Dahomey, turning them into a ‘chief proof of Dahomé’s barbarian under-civilization’ (The Amazon Warrior Woman and the De/construction of Gendered Imperial Authority in Nineteenth Century Colonial Literature, Maeve E Adams), today’s gender paternalism frames any manhood and masculine embodiment outside of (western) cisheteronormativity as not just biologically illegitimate but also the result of a barbaric threat to civilization.

And who typically figures as the face of that barbarism but the Black trans woman? Materialist transfeminism has to theorize Anti-transmasculinity.

[knightsbestowedbeauty]

On the Topic of Misgendering from "Allies"

Anti-transmasculine/man "allies" (both cisgender and transgender) will accuse transgender men of having "penis envy" (a misogynistic Freudian concept on WOMEN), accuse transmasculine people of weaponising their ASAB and ironically insult them through derogatory terms based on their ASAB (e.g., theyFAB), accuse white transgender men of weaponising white WOMEN tears, tell transgender men to "man up if they WANT to be men," etc...

BUT the moment a transmasculine person or transgender man talks about their experiences with misogyny, they have to walk on eggshells and cannot acknowledge they were raised as girls and are forced into womanhood by society, because then, they "MUST" be implying transfeminine people do not experience misogyny.*

So, it "IS" acceptable to misgender (and malgender, another topic) transmasculine people & transgender men when someone is doing it in the name of "feminism" ("calling transmascs out for their alleged (trans)misogyny!"), yet a transmasculine person or transgender man saying they were AFAB (Note: Some transmasculine people were not AFAB.) or explaining the reality of how society treats them as "failed women" is them "misgendering themselves for malicious reasons?"

To anti-transmasculine/man people, the context of transmasculine people's gender identity depends entirely on whether depicting them as women or men is more convenient than the other.

*Misogyny is far more complex than, "I identify as a woman, therefore I am affected by misogyny." It is also not exclusively, "Society views me as a woman, therefore I am affected by misogyny." You do not have to play René Descartes here. Misogyny affects all marginalised gender identities, including transfeminine people, and entails many, many experiences.

[genderqueerdykes]

One of my friends went on a whole rant about how they hate men and think they're all bad, it made me feel super unsafe and scared. I don't know how to go about telling her to just... Not? (I'm a trans man btw and she knows this)

that sucks so bad, i'm sorry that she did that. right now people are taking things out on people who haven't hurt them and it needs to stop. she needs to care about how that affects you.

some talking points you can use would be

You're still a person. It might be good to gently tell her things like "Hey, I'm still a person, and my feelings matter," and "This is making me feel unsafe. I'm not sure if you realize that you are also creating a hostile environment and it's not fixing anything."

Pointing out that pathologically avoiding men will keep her trapped in her trauma indefinitely and that all she's doing is avoiding coming to terms with the specific injustices she has faced so she can move on to a happier, more complete life.

Pointing out that is paranoid thinking, and it might be good to point out that she's not the only woman on planet earth and the men around her are not salivating to assault her in specific.

Pointing out that this is catastrophizing behavior and black and white thinking. Instantly assuming the absolute worst about of group of people is catastrophizing, which is not a healthy thinking pattern. "Woman good" "men bad" is black and white thinking, which is also not a healthy thinking pattern.

Pointing out that hurting someone else just because you have been hurt is perpetuating the cycle of abuse, and that she as a woman is capable of abusing other people, including men.

This is judgmental behavior and she would be hurt as fuck for strangers to assume she's stupid, pathetic, weak, can't think for herself, can't defend herself, can't ever do anything for herself strictly just because she's a woman. Doing it to someone else doesn't make it right.

The people she is profiling as men may not be men- they may be closeted trans women, transfems going stealth, intersex people, and so on. they may also be queer. they may be a trans man, a gay man, a bisexual man, an intersex man, a polyamorous man, an aromantic man, an asexual man, a bigender man, a genderfluid man, a nonbinary man, a genderqueer man, or any other kind of queer man. She does not have special laser vision and cannot tell strangers' genders just by looking at them no matter how they present outwardly.

Claiming that one gender is wholesale better than another is exactly why we have misogyny & woman hating in the first place. Demonizing and villainizing a gender is where this all started.

Surrounding herself with women will not keep her safe because women are 100% capable of abusing, hurting, torturing, bullying, sexually assaulting, injuring and killing her. Women can be and are dangerous at times as well.

Women are not defenseless soft pathetic weak little waifs who can do no wrong and are constantly victims in every single scenario. Women should not be allowed to dodge accountability by virtue of being pathetic scared defenseless weak women, as this is misogyny, and women are accountable for their actions just like everyone else.

Women are not inherently comforting or nurturing. Women are not always focused on taking care of people and sometimes do enjoy hurting people who haven't hurt them.

Women are capable of lying, manipulating, stealing, and gaslighting.

The most dangerous people in the queer community right now are cis women, in the form of terfs and radfems. Women do not always have everyone's best interests in mind.

Pointing out that the concept of manhood and the existence of men isn't what hurt her, and that specific individual men were the ones that hurt her, and that she's not holding those specific men accountable by blaming their genders instead of their actions.

Doing this to and showing hostility toward men will not motivate them to treat women and femmes any better.

Saying that all men are inherently evil and predatory is allowing them to dodge accountability for their actions by saying "men are just like that". It doesn't give them a chance to improve and grow, which is something men are 100% capable of doing.

and if you can't bring it up to her, don't feel bad. people are literally proud of being judgmental assholes right now and it's sad as hell. treating men like this isn't going to fix any of this. best of luck to you, i hope she smartens up and learns that this isn't helping her at all. it's just turning her into a bitter, jaded asshole

[milo-by-the-fishtank]

Doing a survey here. I had a thought and I want to see demographic data now

Here is some explanation on what I mean by the options I have provided 

Had your ability too formulate opinions striped-being called ‘pick me’, ‘ bootlicker’, ‘suck up’, been told you hold this position because a man told you, you are doing it for sexual favors or attention from a man, or any other way that strips you off your ability to hold a position without the influence of a man.

Misgender-implied/or stated you are a cis man, implied/or stated you are a trans man/masc, forcefully put into a gender or sex categories will do not identify with, stated in any way you’re not trans

Harassed-sent hate mail, sent death threats, sent spam, sent gore, threatened in any other way, you know the drill

Malgender-had your gender affirm within a negative association(ie ‘she’s a trans woman that’s why she’s a bitch’, stuff along this line)

Sexism & Transphobia-intersexism, transmisogyny, exorsexism, misogyny, and basically any other form of sexism or transphobia

Other forms of oppression and discrimination-racism, ableism, homophobia, reinforcing colonial/white supremacist ideas, again you know the drill 

 Attention:

If it’s none, please comment none, when I make the tallies you will be added. I’m an idiot and forgot to add that and a check results 

[butch-bakugo]

You didn't hear it from me but the entire reason why transradfems/baddels HATE that trans men talk about their past experiences as cis women (at the time) and the horror they went through is because if you got far enough back in their past, you'll find that they are the " I avoided the red pill pipeline by becoming a trans woman" type shit (and they are still red pilled, still discuss cis women/Transmascs like redpills, still believe racist conspiracy theories like redpills... if not redpill, why redpill shaped? Why constantly calling "tme" people (who they only ever mean to be cis women and transmascs) sub humans with less thought capacity/smelly vaginas/whores/whiney bitches? Hmmmm) and you'll probably find some questionable views they never worked through. It's why you never see them talk about anything but feminism/gender based discrimination but never interphobia, nbphobia, racism, ableism, etc, they never actually bother to intersectionalize their feminism when it applies to non-perisex trans women and when they do, they sound like the typical surface level ally who only tolerates your existence so long as you don't speak up when then say shit that shows their true intentions...

You hate when they talk about their past with discrimination as an afab/cafab intersex person? You don't like it because you're jealous of those experiences and things you think delegitimize your experiences (they don't, other people exist) or you just don't like Transmascs having a space in women's healthcare because naming yourself Milo isn't a full hysterectomy (you want them to fit the mold of cis men so you don't feel bad being cruel to them and the only people who benefit from being paired with cis people exclusively in a radical feminist lense is trans women, not trans men) or because you've got some skeletons in your closet and can't bring up your past? Wonder why they all have 4chan and Reddit accounts.... Hmmm.... Quite the thinker.....

[intersexcat-tboy]

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⚠️Women are not the only marginalized gender ⚠️