#anti regina mills

[thedisdainfullysilentvisitor]

Just thought I'd ask; how badly do people want a ouat fanfic where Graham's assault is addressed and Regina isn't catered to?

[shewhotellsstories]

This reminds me a bit of my Regina Mills problem with Once Upon a Time. In OUAT they wanted to redeem Regina, but they spent three seasons showing her being an unrepentant child abuser, mass murderer, and rapist. They couldn't make the audience unsee her reign of terror (although there were way too many Regina apologists), so they relied on making her victims disregard their valid distrust and anger or lowering characters she'd been at odds with to make her look better.

The Bridgerton and Once Upon a Time writers couldn't make Penelope and Regina's actions less egregious. Hence, they had no choice but to invalidate everyone's feelings and vilify them to make their pets look better.

[sapphic-agent]

In case you were wondering where I stood with any of these characters.

(Yes, Catra is in the middle. She gets her own category because I have complicated feelings about her)

[sprnklersplashes]

me: now it is interesting that emma swan and lorelai gilmore got incredibly similar treatment in their respective fandoms; they were both teen parents, and working-class ones at that, who struggled to make ends meet and made difficult decisions to give their child the best life they could. despite this though, their fandoms can only focus on and exaggerate their shortcomings; in emma's case it was giving henry away and in lorelai's it was being too friendly and immature around rory. still me: by contrast, regina mills and emily gilmore-who are in many ways emma and lorelai's counterparts in regard to motherhood-are hailed as "icons" and also the best mothers on their respective shows despite having significantly more shortcomings than emma and lorelai did. henry is painted as an ungrateful brat despite clear evidence that regina was an unfit if not abusive parent, which in turn demonises emma for "turning" henry against regina. moreover, we see throughout the show that emily is an overbearing and toxic influence on lorelai, criticising every movement she does, and yet lorelai is still called ungrateful. what unites emily and regina is their wealth, as this is used as proof that they gave their children good lives despite their canon actions. still me: in summary, although these are two different shows, their fanbases show the same bias towards upper-class motherhood and a belief that providing for a child's basic needs is somehow a grand gesture, and in turn demonises and belittles the very struggles lorelai and emma had gone through as mothers. take-away delivery guy: ma'am please just take your food.

[hitchell-mope]

Emma: Oh, by the way, if you ever speak disrespectfully again about my husband, I’ll kill you. Sorry, that sounded like a joke. I will ACTUALLY kill you.

[couragehopelovefaith]

During every single OUAT-rewatch I hope I would understand why Regina has such a huge fan-base, but nope. Lana did a good job playing her and I couldn't see anyone else in that role. But the character herself has ruined so many people's lives by her actions - that she constantly and absurdly kept blaming other people for - and her redemption-arc is basically so non-existent that I just can't root for her or any ships or other relationships she's involved in.

[vasfasan]

Dark!Hook would be amazing at Cinemasins

All the Dark Ones 🤝 fucking finally putting Regina in her place

He's got a point, he's an icon, he's a legend, and he is the moment

[camelotroses]

I could watch this all day.

Regina had no right. Killian knew that. Killian stopped her cruelty against Emma.

He'd been against using the dagger to control her from the start. He believed in her enough to help her without using force.

"Are you all right?"

I love that Killian puts the dagger down before asking. He's been in a hurry to get rid of the darkness but since they got there he's been all about "Emma's choice". He's livid at Regina & he knows being controlled by the dagger hurts Emma.

That is true love.

[ouatsnark]

okay i’m sure you’ve covered this at some point but this site is an abomination to search in sometimes.

i wanna ask about your thoughts on s7 ending scene of the coronation - personally i hate it because it fucks up every timeline MORE (NEAL IS OLDER THAN ROBIN!), but most importantly, it has regina as the ‘good queen’ and after EVERYTHING she did, i would have fucking rioted if i’d been a citizen in storybrooke.

she said from day one that she didnt want to be a queen, which cora pushed her into cos she was a social climber, so giving regina power over everyone and everything when her younger self never would have wanted that, seems silly. i would have loved to see her happy for SNOW to be crowned the good queen of everything and all because it contradicts what she says in the pilot. THAT wouldve been a change!

regina needed a quasimodo ending, not something she expected but something she needed - learning to be happy for others after she took it away so many times!

that being the ending just proves that being the most evil and worst version of yourself, can result in you being bestowed even more power (exactly like our society tbh) i hate how they pander to her at every turn and i hate the writers for the coronation scene

I understand your tag frustration! Every time I think I’ve figured out a good way to tag this blog I’m like “yeah, that’s probably not helping!”

I don't think I have one single, serious, post dedicated to how beyond livid I am with The Once Upon a Time writers/creators for crowning Regina the “Good Queen” and placing her above all of her victims and those currently ruling their kingdom/realm WITHOUT HER HELP.

The other rulers do not need her. If they’d done this with Killian you’d hear them screaming misogyny over placing him above Elsa, Jasmine and Merida etc etc. But it’s OK because it’s Regina. And I have a hard time believing anyone asked for her to be placed in this position when Regina has done NOTHING for them.

I must say that I absolutely love your take on how Regina’s story should’ve ended and the crowning of Snow White. In my opinion, though, Regina’s younger self eventually did want power. People’s goals in life can change and the moment Regina tasted power her want for power was ignited. She liked it. Regina very much wanted to rule as was evident in her cursing herself for eternity as mayor over everyone. She also murdered, tortured and abused an entire kingdom to steal Snow’s throne. She was also very happy to be mayor again in the S6 finale. So seeing her give up her want for power would’ve been amazing.

Regina learning to be happy for others and petitioning to re-instate Snow as queen would’ve been a huge step toward making me believe “ok, maybe she’s changed. Maybe this is her redemption.”

But, unfortunately, once again, this vile villain that committed so many atrocities was placed above her victims. What makes it even more unforgivable is that she never apologized or showed remorse for what she’d done to them. She still had her vault of hearts for pities sake! For all we know that crowd there was being controlled by Regina!

I have always felt that the ending should’ve been centered on Emma and her family and not on the villain that destroyed their lives and doesn’t regret it. It should’ve been a coronation for Hope and the crowning of Snow White. it would’ve been nice to see Snow actually be Snow White again like they eluded to in S5 but never followed through with. You could say her goals in life also changed as her story progressed but I just felt like it was a regression for her. She was a strong leader that led with compassion just like her father. I’d have so liked to see Snow become who she was always meant to be and not just someone standing in Regina’s shadow.

I also do not like how the Wish People were there. Season 6 wish realm already didn't make sense but Season 7 completely destroyed whatever little sense it did make. Regina having two Henry’s to love her was absolutely absurd especially since the fake Henry forgave Regina for no reason after she murdered his grandparents and took away the only mother he’d known. This isn’t on Emma either as Regina told her that all the people in the wish realm weren’t real. Well, they aren’t fake are they if Regina was about to give up everything for fake Robin and now treats fake Henry like another son…? So where is justice for Wish Snowing?! Oh right where all of the other victim’s rights to justice are: ignored, forgotten and buried or turned into Regina being the victim instead.

I am 100% with you on just absolutely hating the message that Once Upon a Time sent in regards to Regina. It’s just vile. And I fully believe that this wouldn’t have been the case if LP wasn’t a beautiful woman. It is only because she is beautiful and a woman that this is even applauded.

[astridthevalkyrie]

the fact that once upon a time made regina so evil and awful that the only way to redeem her was tragic backstory+henry does a 180 and loves her now+snow is a murderer which makes her just as bad+snow and charming stole a baby+snow and charming could have went to emma when she was like 6 but they didn't+emma will talk about how they could've been together if they didn't send her through but regina would have either be with someone else or would have literally fucking killed her+zelena and every other villain is worse somehow+emma is evil now+the author WROTE regina to be evil+she SPLITS THE EVIL FROM HER LIKE IT WAS A SEPARATE PERSON AND NOT HER+and everyone who doesn't want to forgive her for killing hundreds and abusing her son because her mom killed her boyfriend is the scum of the earth and will either be portrayed as a villain or will just do a complete 180 like henry

[ebdaydreamer]

omg, Regina yelling at and insulting Pinocchio (as in, THE CHILD) for not remembering his life as adult August... she's so cruel and vicious about it, it's the same way she talks to most adults too, but at least they're not literal children. Good people don't throw hissy fits and yell insults at children because they don't get their way. Yet she and most of the other main characters still insist she's good. Yes, she apologised but she shouldn't have had to, because it shouldn't have happened.

[thedisdainfullysilentvisitor]

Here's your reminder that Swanqueen was never canon. It would be unfortunate if the ship wasn't incredibly toxic.

[myimaginarywonderland]

If there's one thing that I wish I could reverse it is the fact that for the 2010s one of the biggest lesbian ships is literally between a rapist, murderous and manipulative bitch who also happens to be the step-grandmother to the very kindhearted and traumatized woman she is shipped with. Add to that the fact that she tried to murder said woman and here entire family because of a teenage romance gone horribly wrong.

Not to mention the fact that she rapes and kills one of the first man that woman cares about.

[killiansprincss]

I just don’t think I’ll ever understand people that say Emma and Regina is their favourite friendship. In what world is that a friendship when Regina literally barely tolerates Emma because she’s Henry’s mother and belittles her at any given moment, tried to kill her when Emma is simply existing - need I go on ????

[shewhotellsstories]

This really is bringing back Once Upon a Time levels of rage. I loved that show at first, but the writers making Regina Mills their pet and whitewashing all her crimes killed it for me.

Yes, she was abused and then abused her own son and ruined countless lives. But, she shouldn't have to feel any consequences because she had a tragic backstory so sayeth the showrunners. She doesn't have to take accountability, everyone else just had to get over it. Sound familiar?

I hated Regina Mills and she was thin, so please spare me the, "if Penelope was thin you'd love her nonsense."

[princess-ibri]

Just wondering, what’s your opinion on OUAT?

Great concept, increasingly poor execution, shouldn't have been a Disney fanfic. It would have done better to keep building its own versions of the fairytales. Also should have been 2, 3 seasons tops.

And, personal rant here: No, Regina did not deserve a 'Happy Ending'.

Not saying she couldn't have somehow become a better person but its honestly unlikely after the pattern of decisions she made. And more then that, she never atones for the bad things she did. She just stops doing them. Actually not even that, she just starts doing them to different people.

She has no actual excuse for what she did. She murdered and raped and abused and was more then happy to let the whole world burn so that she could hold onto a gruge that anyone who'd ever once been actually good or sane would have understood lies at the feet of Cora, not an 10 year old child.

And she never feels sorry for any of it, just sorry that people call her out on it.

(And Zelena and Rumple are just as bad)

Ok, rant over