#anti-swanqueen

[thedisdainfullysilentvisitor]

Think some people don't understand the difference between actions in context.

For instance, this;

Is NOT toxic. Damon is keeping Elena out of a dangerous place she would definitely immediately be killed in. Katherine would kill her because Elena is the one Stefan wants and Katherine was written to only care about him. She says the 'doppelganger has to be protected' but with the inconsistency of this writing, she would just shrug and say 'we'll wait for the next one.'. Elena would not have hesitated to get trapped in that tomb in order to save Stefan. She probably would've offered up a vein if he ended up starved enough. Damon was saving her life.

Meanwhile this IS toxic.

Emma is trying to keep Regina was scurrying away and confronting her on the fact that the entire town is cursed and everyone was miserable, and that she was raised an orphan because of the selfish mayor and adopted abusive mother of her given up child. Regina had cared so little about her adopted son's actual feelings she had no problem trying to poison Emma. Unfortunately for her, Henry was too smart and ate the thing first, both to prove to his real mother that magic was real and Regina is evil. If Emma hadn't pinned Regina there, she would've kept gaslighting her about everything and tried to blame Emma for the fact Henry was in a sleeping curse.

The second picture is toxic as all hell. The first one is not. Again people, think for yourself.

[katian13]

Поговорим о токсичности Эммы к Генри. Самое первое, это то, что она, зная, как ужасно быть сиротой, как ужасно быть в приюте и не знать ничего о своей биологической семье, отказывается от него. Я не говорю, что Эмма должна была растить Генри в жуке, а об аборте – это бы показало, что она действительно переживала за ребёнка. Ведь кто знает, если бы ему не повезло, и его не усыновил бы никто, или неблагополучная семья? Ему досталась Реджина – и вот этот ход по-прежнему отвратителен всем, кроме любви Реджины к Генри. Тем, что Генри – это повод Эммы для встреч с Реджиной, тем, что тут без лжи было никак – ну бля, просто представьте, что Реджина напрямик сказала Генри, что такое Сторибрук и кто его жители – и случайно такой разговор всплыл в школе или ещё где – тут либо посмеются над ребёнком и забудут о сказках, либо беседы с психологом назначил учитель, и от Арчи ему было бы и так и так не отвертеться, только Реджина эти походы сумела отсрочить, а Снежка, наоборот, подарив ему Книгу Сказок, тем самым, настроив его против матери. Тем, что Реджине, из-за того, что она – мэр, да ещё и одинока – ну никак не дали бы его усыновить. Генри впервые видит мать, родную мать. Опустим то, что он практически шантажом вынудил её ехать в Сторибрук. А вот то, что Эмма, узнав, что перед ней – её сын, просто была в ахуе. То есть, жалость к нему, ведь он испытал то же, что и она – нет, слёз тоже нет. И Реджина ей всё предъявляет по факту: столько лет она жила без Генри, и не беспокоилась о нём, пока Реджина была ему матерью. И мать, и сын, вообще-то, прекрасно понимают, что Генри для Эммы лишь повод, а не причина остаться в Сторибруке. Также токсичность Эммы проявилась в первом сезоне, опять же, Снежка говорит Эмме правду-матку о Генри – он просто ищет кого-то родного, чтобы понять, почему его бросили, и Эмма, опять же, не чувствует своей вины перед ним. Когда он рядом и всё твердит о спасителе, Эмме опять же, по боку, словно он кто-то посторонний. Однажды Генри сознался, что ему кажется, что Реджина не любит его, и вместо того, чтобы поддержать сына, сказать, что мать его любит, она говорит это «тебе ещё повезло, потому что мои родители даже не удосужились меня хотя бы до больницы донести». Генри хоть и манипулятор, что вертит обеими матерями, как ему вздумается, но всё же, разве эту боль Эмма не должна была чувствовать, как свою, понять эту боль?

Эмма стала чуть менее токсично относится к Генри, когда выяснилось, что Нил не бросал её и уж тем более, не сдавал полицейским. Вот только, всё же это было из-за самого Нила. Я имею в виду, что она смягчилась только из-за того, кого всегда любила, и узнала, что он тоже всегда её любил, а н из-за любви к Генри. Вообще, Эмма относится к Генри с точки зрения отца, а не матери. И да, такое бывает, женщина может не полюбить своего ребёнка, по разным причинам, но она это знала, и всё равно прикрывалась Генри, как поводом остаться в Сторибруке и сближаться с Реджиной. Тогда она начала уделять ему больше времени, подарок от Реджины, где Эмма растила его изначально, также был для Эммы шагом ближе для сына – она начала хоть понемногу интересоваться его жизнью. В шестом сезоне отыскала где-то в Сторибруке сплав на байдарках (серьёзно, где, разве там был такой водоём, который бы был для этого пригоден?), что обычно делает, опять же, отец, а не мать, а после извинилась за скорое появление второго ребёнка, что вроде бы, говорит о том, что хотя бы эту свою боль она совместила с тем, что и Генри может это почувствовать.

Просто, фраза Валета о том, что лучший способ сблизиться с девушкой – это наладить контакт с её ребёнком, работает не только в сторону Крюка и Генри, но и Эммы с Генри – ведь так она сможет заинтересовать Реджину. Что-то вроде «может, у нас и ничего общего, но я тоже люблю нашего сына». Но она очень часто себя выдавала. Например, на кладбище, у могилы её отца, она сказала «Генри сам нашёл меня, шериф – тоже. Оба от вас сбежали, и оба несчастны». ��мма говорила это с таким самодовольством, ни капли жалости ни к охотнику, ни к сыну у неё не было – ей просто льстило, что такой шикарной женщине, как Реджине, эти двое предпочли её, как ту, кто может им помочь.

[mysticalarmand]

Toxic Yuri

Toxic Yaoi

WTF is this?

[withgirl-sq]

Currently thinking how badly I want to watch a version of OUAT without Hook in it :'(

[myimaginarywonderland]

If there's one thing that I wish I could reverse it is the fact that for the 2010s one of the biggest lesbian ships is literally between a rapist, murderous and manipulative bitch who also happens to be the step-grandmother to the very kindhearted and traumatized woman she is shipped with. Add to that the fact that she tried to murder said woman and here entire family because of a teenage romance gone horribly wrong.

Not to mention the fact that she rapes and kills one of the first man that woman cares about.

[ouatsnark]

i just read the worst fanfic of all time and the context is emma breaking off her engagement because hook was physically abusive to her (???) and one of the excerpts include “When a woman says ‘no’,” Regina plunged her hand into Killian’s back and yanked out his heart, “she means no.” HEFJIBDRDV. i will send you the link if i have to it's just so bad it includes emma yelling at her parents with stuff you debunked like giving her up to save her life from regina. sq shippers really hate emma omg

Yes. SwanQueen and Evil Regals 100% hate Emma Swan. Well, they love season 1 Emma but they never wanted her to change. Emma is only a stand in for themselves. They would much rather see Emma under Regina’s heel and being called “idiot” by Regina than seeing Emma’s complete joy with Killian Jones calling her “amazing, beautiful, strong etc”. And this is based on the edits I’ve had the misfortune of seeing on Instagram because no one respects tags over there. The “art” they make would have people’s heads spinning if the gender roles were reversed but it’s somehow perfectly acceptable as long as it’s Regina. It’s OK because they find Regina hot and they themselves want to be abused by her.

If SwanQueeners had an ounce of honesty and even remotely tried to follow/understand canon (and acknowledge where the writing got it wrong), then they'd know that Emma should be 100x more angry at Regina for abusing Henry, making her an orphan and just overall treating her and her loved ones like they are lesser. But those that favor Regina aren’t honest about canon at all or wish to recognize how heinous the writing was when it came to how the other characters handled Regina. That and they’d have to come to terms with how crappy of a character Regina is.

And it’s really hysterical having Regina standing against domestic violence when Regina was the one that got away with so much abuse. Regina abused Henry and Snow. Regina also kept a sex slave (Graham in the EF)n and forced him into a relationship with her against his will (cursed Graham). I actually talked recently about how Regina is more like to abuse her partner than Killian Jones: CaptainSwan abusive marriage debunked.

I mean which one has struck Emma out of jealousy? Or anger? Or just enjoyed being cruel to her? Their queen!

So they can write all of the AU and highly OOC fanfic they want but at the end of the day canon reigns supreme. Because using their logic, Regina is the one more likely to abuse Emma because Regina has a history of doing so even after her redemption and she was never consumed by evil in the first place.

[italymystery-swanqueen]

Balance

"In this world, there are heroes, villains and ..."

[mx-loar-tev]

Look, I'm not usually one to tell people what they should ship or not. Really, that's not my business.

Yes, there's a "but".

But I am one to "tell" the writers what they should write.

The thing about captainswan? Other than the total absence of chemistry between the actors? Hook is the kind of guy that makes my skin crawl.

There's two kinds of redemption arcs. The ones that work and the ones that don't. Not surprisingly, male characters tend to have the latter. For two reasons: 1. the writers tend to think guys should have everything forgiven to them for the smallest effort. 2. toxic masculinity. Yeah, men get away with a lot just because "boys will be boys". They have the right to be rude, or even toxic, just because they are cis straight males full of testosterone. (I need to vomit istg)

Yeah, there's two kinds of redemption arcs. Guess which one I prefer: Hook's or Regina's?

There's a reason why I ship swanqueen and it's not (only) because I'm queer.

[incorrectouatquotes]

Regina: Neal doesn’t deserve you.

Regina: If he doesn't treat you right by now, you're gone.

Emma: I'm gone.

Regina: Now go chop his dick off!

[lt-sarai]

OH my god

I haven't engaged in the ouat tags in so long that for the last few years I lived in a world without sw4nqu33n.

I missed the show so I started watching a reaction series on YouTube

I went into the tags for season 1 and the Sq is rampant. I wanna barf. I hate it.

[italianbeatrice]

An AI for mental support - are you f@@king kidding me???!!!

Today I found out through a podcast interview that there is an AI-based app for wellbeing support. True, in the website it never outright say "mental health", and in the interview the person says "low to moderate mental health support", not care, not therapy... but really!!!!

And probably I'm late in realizing the extent of this and there are dozen others.

But, as someone who has/had her period of serious struggling with her mind state, who cried also for the lack of someone to talk to about it, this is heart shattering!

We blame people for wasting their time in "parasocial activities" (and I do see and understand the irony of me doing just that, talking to my laptop screen and so doing something very similar to using that app) and then we let this happen.

As a first health responder at work (the definition might vary in the world, I have no medical training), but also as a private citizen, actually, I can not give someone with stomach burns an over the counter anti-acid without doing illegal medical practice, and we let an AI talk to someone who is struggling mentally??!!

I see artists everyday, writers and graphic artists and every other form of artistic expression, get up in arms against AI and I fully support them. Do mental health care providers value their work so little that they let this happen?? Or is it just that only the thousands (or millions) who would not be able to afford real proper mental health care rely on apps like this, and so professionals don't care about them anyway?

Below the break there is only info on the app to give the proper fact-checking references but also not to advertise it in any way!

My opinion stands for all similar apps, so it is not about this app in particular. But to give some facts and not being just a theoretical rant and to give some fact-checking references to those who want to verify themselves, the app in question is lumii.life. The interview is in the"Standard Issue Podcast" Ep. "Laura Tristram's no year's resolutions" (I have the Patreon's edit that sometimes has longer versions of interviews).

I have to give credit to the interviewer in raising the question if an AI is good enough and that one wouldn't "advocate for using it for serious mental health problems" . The answer talked about "helping people with day-to-day problems and low level to moderate mental health support" and again that the app was trained such that "if it feels that someone needs more intensive support or is in crisis it will recommend that they go and get help or they call a help line"

The website says "your AI companion for 24/7 wellbeing support. Get real-time guidance for managing stress, easing anxiety, or simply having someone to talk to."

[thedisdainfullysilentvisitor]

Here's your reminder that Swanqueen was never canon. It would be unfortunate if the ship wasn't incredibly toxic.

[katian13]

Ни одна из индивидуальных амнезий не была исцелена на самом деле поцелуем. Дэвид принял стрелу вместо Реджины, чтобы Снежка не встала на путь зла, Румпель дал зелье Лэйси, как и Крюк Эмме, а Реджина приняла меч Генри. Плюсом зелье вернуло память к Реджине в седьмом сезоне из-за Айви.

[mysticalarmand]

Controversial opinion, but I think CaptainPan had more chemistry than CaptainSwan

Like, I get the concept, but it feels like forcing a bisexual man and a bisexual woman together, because girls and guys can't be friends

Meanwhile CaptainPan had a whole ass episode that gives the gay4bi vibe more

Can't bring Swanqueen into this, because we been knew that they were meant to be from S1

[withgirl-sq]

Random thought

If SwanQueen was canon and Regina disappeared like Hook did in Season 6, Emma never would have just assumed that she gave up on their relationship.

Am I the only one who thinks that she would know there was something wrong and that she was in trouble?

[lillysbitchfest]

Rhaenyra/Alicent fan posts make me ill... what is with me finding shows where the Woman For Trump gets declared by the fandom to be just an angry closeted lesbian who needs to be loved by the woman whose life she ruins?