#anti captain swan

[mysticalarmand]

No, actually, why on my fifth re-watch of OUAT did I notice that Emma went from the masc to femme when she started dating Killian. You won't see that shit with Regina or Neal. The embraced who she is, but she felt more insecure and more femme with Killian. Idfk, but it's more telling tbh. She's not herself around Killian. Again, FORCED RELATIONSHIP FOR NO FUCKING REASON Maybe, it's due to the fact that I'm in way too many fandoms and tend to pick this shit up, but low-key what's with misogynistic tropes in media 😭

[apollostrials]

ouat tiktokers speaking shit about neal is the reason i, once again, decided to disrespect myself again and watch this trash show once again. because what do you mean you’re gonna soil this man who is the epitome of selfless and resilience.

like your fav is so selfish and so petty and try to kill people for breathing. your fav is so selfish and so petty and they have only one word in their mouth which is “revenge” . and yet, they act like they deserve their happy ending when they should just burn in the deep pits of hell.

do be serious a minute.

[boosyboo9206]

The one thing that I will never forgive Once Upon a Time for is killing off Neal.

Not because I'm a swanthief/swanfire shipper and wanted them together so bad. But because killing him off was complete and total fan service to pave the way for captain swan.

I'm not the biggest fan of captain swan because, honestly, they're a little toxic for each other. But, also, because Hook's only purpose after a season or two was only Emma.

At least, for Neal, he had other purposes. Henry's Dad. Rumple's son - literally his humanity and the whole reason Rumple did everything he did. He was friends with Belle. And Wendy. He had reasons to exist outside of Emma and could have completely moved on from her in time and find someone else.

They could have had a healthy co-parenting relationship and been friends. And, while it would have been nice to, at least, see them try a romantic relationship again, the time had totally passed. There's too much history and pain and things that happened for them to work. So her not wanting to try again with him and be with Hook could have still happened.

Killing off Neal was a copout and fan service and a terrible choice. They also totally ruined Hook by not giving him a purpose outside of Emma after/around, like, season 3.

[withgirl-sq]

Currently thinking how badly I want to watch a version of OUAT without Hook in it :'(

[mariaalrox-blog]

In my opinion, Hook never changes. Storybrooke accepted and gives a second opportunity to him just because of Emma. He is always an arrogant pirate who only cares about himself. He pretends to care about Emma but he isn't.

I mean, Neal just died in s3. And it was clear that he and Emma were still in love. In the series, they have said many times that they still loved each other. But Hook was already insisting on Emma to be with him. He could think that she maybe needs a little space. Their relationship happens so fast, in my opinion. It's as if he forced her to be with him.

And, he is always lying to Emma, or hiding her something. And when she asks him a favor, like when she asks him to take Elsa to a safe place, no, he has to do whatever he wants, no matter if he's wrong.

I think the character of Hook was much better as a villain in the flashbacks and in season two.

[oautincorrectquotes]

Emma entering the room: Oh good your not busy.

Hook applying his guy liner: Actually Swan i am busy.

[youarejustintime]

Emma’s wardrobe changing to be more white and floral after Hook moves in and everyone constantly regarding her masculine style as a “wall” is one of the most blatantly misogynistic tropes I’ve ever witnessed and it is WILD to me that people still can’t see that.

Emma: *dresses masculine for most of her life, only dresses hyper feminine when actively playing a character*

Emma as soon as she gets with H00k: *begins to dress more feminine, regularly wearing flowy blouses and trading in her classic red leather jacket with a red blazer*

Y’all: Ah yes, the pinnacle of character development, good for her

[swanfireouat]

I'm sorry but how was it considered normal that Emma was questioning her self worth when she was with Hook??? She was the main heroine of the show. Why would they do something like this?? And if she is questioning it, why wouldn't they address it later and bring back her self esteem?? What kind of weak writing was that???? I'm so pissed even today!

[katian13]

Троп «свадьба с другим» не применим к свадьбе Эммы с Крюком. Узнав про свадьбу, мы все ожидали, что Эмма будет, как в самой обычной романтической комедии, стоять у алтаря и думать о Реджине – той, с кем она хочет быть, понимая, что Крюк даже как ложный вариант ей не подходит. Но этого не происходит. Вместо этого Снежка и Дэвид практически толкают Эмму к алтарю, счастья за время всей церемонии у Эммы не показано, как и любви.

Но Адам и Эдди истинно гении, которые умудрились создать из свадьбы – формирования семьи, формирование личности (я уже молчу про сам

о платье, шахматную партию и кучу отсылок к другим фильмам и сериалам). Эмма вышла за Крюка, но что под этим скрывалось? Парадокс в том, что суперэго Эммы – Прекрасные, и особенно Снежка, давили на неё стереотипами и традиционными ценностями, но к алтарю ведут тоже они – суперэго хочет, чтобы Эмма приняла своё мужское начало, зная, что лучше для неё – ведь мужская сторона Эммы – это её уникальность. Эмма противится, ведь в мире сказок, в мире традиций эта её сторона часто ей мешала. И поэтому на свадьбе присутствует Реджина – будь эта свадьба реальной, то Реджине было бы больно находиться там и смотреть, как Эмма связывает свою жизнь не с ней. А так, она видит, как Эмма старается принять часть себя.

[pirateswhore]

Emma constantly running away from Hook showed he was abusive and she wanted to get away. He's always literally holding her back and stopping her from running

hmm. interesting take ! but I disagree.

what we see from Emma is that she runs when she's scared - she runs when life gets hard, or relationships get hard, or when she feels she's going to get hurt. growing up, she never had anyone who cared for her or be there to miss her. so she would always run. she never had anyone to run after her, no one had ever cared enough. she said it herself - she will continue to run until she misses a place. Emma also guards her heart carefully. After what she went through, especially in regards to Neal, she holds her cards close and neverletss anyone in. the last time she opened up to someone - he left her in jail and never came back.

this culminates in the end of season 3 - she wants to run again. she has a family and friends in storybrooke, and that scares her. having people she cares about means having people who can hurt her. so she wanted to run away again. would a life alone, away from her family, had been better ? I'd say not.

but running away is all Emma knows, all she has ever known. a life of loneliness, shutting people off before they can get close and have a chance to hurt her. if anyone gets to break her heart, it's going to be her.

now hook. hook came into her life, and he was a constant from the start. even when she pushed him away, he wouldn't budge, wouldn't leave her. he stayed by her side, showed her that he wasn't going to leave like everyone else. Emma needed that - needed someone to show her they cared enough to ignore her attempts at distance.

why did she need this ? because she used the distance as a safety mechanism. she would push people away to see if they care enough to pull her back in. no one ever did. not before she met hook.

he was by her side through it all - although he was vocal and open about his intentions of winning her heart, he never pushed her. he gave her space, let her come to him at her own pace. even after their adventure to the past, and after she agreed to stay in storybrooke, he sat in front of the dinner waiting for her to come to him.

ultimately, killian wasn't holding Emma back. he was keeping her anchored to her home. yes, he was stopping her from running away, but I ask again - is that a bad thing ? that he wanted her to stay in storybrooke and be with her family. (its important to note that he only mentioned her family, never himself. it was Emma that always read between his lines and included him in that family).

so yes, in a sense - killian is keeping her from running. but that isn't a bad thing, nor does it make him abusive. she was never running away from him - season 4 and onward shows her cling onto him (even in death). she was running away from being hurt, and he showed her she doesn't have to do that anymore.

[mx-loar-tev]

Look, I'm not usually one to tell people what they should ship or not. Really, that's not my business.

Yes, there's a "but".

But I am one to "tell" the writers what they should write.

The thing about captainswan? Other than the total absence of chemistry between the actors? Hook is the kind of guy that makes my skin crawl.

There's two kinds of redemption arcs. The ones that work and the ones that don't. Not surprisingly, male characters tend to have the latter. For two reasons: 1. the writers tend to think guys should have everything forgiven to them for the smallest effort. 2. toxic masculinity. Yeah, men get away with a lot just because "boys will be boys". They have the right to be rude, or even toxic, just because they are cis straight males full of testosterone. (I need to vomit istg)

Yeah, there's two kinds of redemption arcs. Guess which one I prefer: Hook's or Regina's?

There's a reason why I ship swanqueen and it's not (only) because I'm queer.

[mysticalarmand]

Toxic Yuri

Toxic Yaoi

WTF is this?

[apollostrials]

tallahassee: neal cassidy you have never done anything wrong ever. i hope you know that. i love you. emma has never look h**k the way she looked at him and i will always feel vindicated.

[swanfireprincessmydear]

I am in a petty-ass mood so be warned this is not currently a safe space for C$ shippers :)

Fuck being too grown for that shit, I’m in the mood to pull out all my grievances.

[withgirl-sq]

Random thought

If SwanQueen was canon and Regina disappeared like Hook did in Season 6, Emma never would have just assumed that she gave up on their relationship.

Am I the only one who thinks that she would know there was something wrong and that she was in trouble?

[justanoutlawfic]

"Everything okay?"

David knew Neal wasn't a threat to Emma's safety. He never treated him the same way he did Hook. If he truly thought Neal was bad, he would've threatened him here.