#anti reed richards

[burn-4u]

If you’re gonna cast a pre existing marvel hero actor as doom then why not ioan gruffudd?

They gave ultron to iron man, they gave spiderman to iron man, they gave Thanos to iron man, and now they gave doom to iron man

[falllpoutboy]

whats crazy about the valkyrie cameo in the marvels was we all know why they put her in there. delusional fans from 2019 were urged on by the actresses to ship these two characters despite never having any scenes together and 4 years later, its “omg valkyrie saves the day in the marvels 😱😱😱 and kisses carol on the cheek 😱😱😱”

disney is never going to make mcu captain marvel gay. or bi. they dont even have the balls to properly address and discuss valkyrie’s sexuality on screen. that cameo is extremely indicative of companies giving in to fan theories and wants for the money NOT because they want to create a good story

[the-desolated-quill]

As I get older, I’ve slowly come to accept the fact that there will never be a good adaptation of the Fantastic Four, and I’ve made peace with that. That being said, it’s going to be a bit hard to stomach watching Pedro Pascal stans woobify Reed Richards like they did with Joel from The Last Of Us. 🙄😡

[neonwebs]

[rowinablx]

Sexual harassment is not a cute relationship

[imperiuswrecked]

could you please tell me how you feel about SUPER FRAME's video 'Namor Respect the King' on YouTube? Does he do a good job in capturing the character?

Here's the link if you need it - Namor Respect the King - YouTube

Watching this video and summed up all I can say to the Narrator is:

I think it's a terrible character analysis video. The Narrator could have cut this 22 minute video into less than half the time and it would have the same impact because they repeat things way too many times. Their insight into the character basically amounts to Namor/Sue & "Reed is a Cuck" propaganda, Namor is a narcissist, a homewrecker and Namor's ego stems from the adoration of his people (?????? I’ll talk more on this in a bit). They say, in spite of this, "Namor is an interesting character" many times and then fail to expand on why Namor is an interesting character. 

The Narrator's only contribution to Sub-Mariner Lore discussion is when he talks about Namor + Rime of the Ancient Mariner, however that is then negated when he equates Susan as being the personification of Life in Death from Rime of the Ancient Mariner. This video seriously tries to tie Sue to Namor far too much when if anyone actually reads Namor’s comics, Sue’s presence is very minimal. Not to mention they don't even mention that in Issue #44 of Namor, the Sub-Mariner (1990), the whole comic is a homage to Rime of the Ancient Mariner and Susan isn't in it.

I wrote out my thoughts as I watched the video so under the cut is a longer response, excuse my anger/rant:

The first thing that jumped out at me was this line by the Narrator as they try (and fail) to explain why Namor has an ego, is arrogant, and entitled; "He's also a character that's been raised to never be told No. It's made him entitled." In what Lore has Namor ever been always told yes about everything? The Narrator insists that Namor is surrounded by "Yes Men" and that "What was being created was a man of hubris, that was the favorite. Praised, loved and admired by the people of Atlantis, told that he was to be their savior." And once again repeating this same thought in a different line "When compounding all these elements What we have is a king that's been entitled, that's never been told no, that's been put on a pedestal regardless of his desire not to be praised". Lmao. I cannot take this seriously but I am trying to address more of this video. 

“Susan represents the life, the compassion, the good among mankind, Susan represents everything Namor is looking for. That's partly why he's never tried to stop boning her, ever, every time they meet he's trying to get down, make susan his wife to no avail.” < first off that’s gross, and secondly this is exactly what I mean when I say People get all their Namor characterization from how he interacts with Susan and not from his actual character. I am begging people to cut Sue out, leave her alone, why is everyone always so obsessed with a Namor/Sue connection? Get over it. 

“Namor is a character that is atoning for the sins of man” < what. the. fuck. No. Namor is not atoning for surface humans sins, Namor is the personification of Nature’s Wrath, he is the boiling anger of the Sea, he is the product of love and hatred, the balance between humanity and nature, he doesn’t give a flying fuck about making up for the sins of humans, he’s the PUNISHMENT for human’s degradation of the oceans and it’s creatures. Namor is literally Truth Coming Out of Her Well to Shame Mankind (1896) by Jean-Léon Gérôme, but instead of a well, he’s rising out of the oceans. 

The two times they mention Lady Dorma it's about her betrayal of Namor, ok what about all the times she saved Namor's ass? Or that Namor gave up his right to the throne/trident in order to save her, begged Neptune to save her??? 

“Warlord Krang loves Dorma but she loves Namor, but Namor loves Susan, but she loves Reed, but Reed loves science, Reed wants to solve humanity's problems but neglects Susan, Susan wants Reed but pushes back on Namor's advances” < once again, that’s the EARLY Fantastic Four/Tales to Astonish dynamic, that is a plot, not even accurate because Reed LOVES Susan. This is pointless to mention in what is supposed to be a video talking about how interesting Namor is, and they never once mention that Lady Dorma is the Love of Namor’s Life, his True Love, and the one woman he never truly moves on or forgets. 

"Namor is in love with the idea of susan storm because she was the one to first tell him No-” This is Betty Dean erasure. This is why I keep saying people put way too much credit on Susan for being the one to push back against Namor, Betty Dean literally held a gun to his head, she was a human, she had no powers, and through her actions and words she convinced Namor that not all humans are bad. I’m not trying to hate on Susan, I like Susan, but people need to understand she isn’t the only person who has had a profound impact on Namor’s character. 

“But he doesn't know her intimately.” Finally something I agree with, Namor doesn’t know Susan, he does put Susan up on a pedestal but he doesn’t actually know her as a person. 

“Namor is socially illiterate, never being told no for most of his life means he doesn't understand how to process rejection or the desires of others.” < Narrator, I hate you. 

“This adoration he's had most of his life, the love he's had from his people.” hahahaha what? The character who is literally hate crimed for being born half human/atlantean by both humans and atlanteans? I can count on one hand the number of supporters Namor has who love him unconditionally (romantically or platonically); Betty Dean, Lady Dorma, Marrina Smallwood & Princess Fen, Lord Vashti. The rest of Atlanteans either love or hate Namor depending on the tides, they are such fickle people, and the majority of them are racists. 

“This adoration places him on a pedestal; he believes himself better than those around him, that they are beneath him and so he doesn't have to acknowledge their feelings.” < Namor would literally die for people. I do not understand how they managed to go so off track when it’s so simple. 

I really feel like people see Namor being a Petty Bitch to literally everyone and they go “oh wow he thinks he’s better than everyone” yeah, he does, he does think that, because all his life he’s been told he isn’t, he’s been called slurs, degraded, and the only person who would boost his own self worth was his mother. Namor is a Prince of the Blood, by extension all Atlantean aristocracy is arrogant because they are literally blood descendants of a sea god. Not to mention so many characters disrespect him constantly, the Avengers, normal humans, etc. So why is he supposed to just accept that? Nah. I like when he serves tea and throws the humans hypocrisy back in their faces. 

“Namor and Susan's dynamic.” What dynamic? The one where he’s used as the obstacle between Reed/Sue? That one? “His wants and desires are paramount, because that's what always comes first” Lmao. ok buddy/sarcasm. “Reed is a cuck.” No, Reed Fucks. I have comic proof he does. It’s super pathetic how people don’t see the common tropes that are used for early F4 romance drama subplots. 

In the first 13 minutes, he's repeated the same lines over and over, “namor doesn't get told no, namor is loved by his people, namor and susan, to Namor women are a prize” I swear I’ve never left as hateful comment on a youtube video but this one really tested my patience and I wanted to post “Hey this is complete horseshit.”. 

I think the Namor & Thor comparison was interesting but it’s hardly anything new, both characters are arrogant princes of their realms who interact with humans. However the whole “Thor has a Jane, and Namor doesn’t have this, his “Jane” is a Married woman.  He never learns the lesson of his humility.” is a Bad Take. I want to know if people even know that Namor was married twice. If you really want to compare Thor & Jane with Namor, then Namor & Betty is literally RIGHT THERE. Human woman teaches arrogant otherworldly Prince about the goodness of humankind. 

“Namor has toxic character traits” good. I love that about him. People are so fucking boring I swear to god, he’s a fictional character, he can be messy! 

"While Namor is all for himself" < kill me. Namor is so selfless, he literally puts his duty to his crown/people/the oceans above his own happiness all the fucking time. 

“Namor can show pity especially when it's a mistake made in the name of love.” They are talking about Dorma’s betrayal. I want to know if they even know about Tigershark, Namor literally goes out of his way to help Tigershark despite the fact that Tigershark HATES Namor, why? Because Tigershark’s sister, Diane Arliss, wanted her brother safe. He pitied Tigershark, even after Tigershark murdered Namor’s father, he pities him. 

“Namor is a narcissist. He gaslights.” < lmao! Namor is painfully honest, he is like that dude who will look you straight in the eye and call you stupid to your face and he’s right.

It took 17 minutes for them to finally fucking mention that Namor feels out of place among the atlanteans and humans and that should have been in minute one, it should have been the main focus. Anyways I’m done. This whole video is trash imo. It’s sad to think people will find this and think it’s the definition of his character.

[breckstonevailskier]

I dunno, I think the deaths were appropriate for the Illuminati. 😂 I mean, they had no qualms about murdering their Stephen Strange instead of helping him (sidenote, what the Illuminati did then would be like if the other Avengers in Infinity War chose to kill Vision rather than try to keep him alive). 🤨

And at least in the comics, the Illuminati are meant to be a lesson in hubris, which is very much on display with them. Too bad that I doubt Michael Waldron gets that.

Multiverse of Madness was great but I’m never going to get over how quickly the Earth 838 Illuminati got taken out by Wanda! Which doesn’t really make any sense if they were able to take out Thanos and their Stephen Strange after he used the darkhold so easily! Michael Waldron should never had made so over powered!

[gremlins-hotel]

From the notes of Capt. Alfred Jones: "Davie was a bus and the 'Flying Fortress' moniker seemed to pass her by, but it was a ship with a brave crew. The trudge of getting back to England from enemy territory is a story for another day. I miss her and sometimes I miss the boys we lost that day."

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B-17F "Dear Davie": *U.S. Army Model B-17F-65-BO Air Corps Serial No. 42-29670 Delivered Cheyenne 31/1/43; Pueblo 18/2/43; Salina 15/2/43; Brookley 19/3/43; Smoky Hill 23/3/43; Dow Field 18/4/43. Assigned to the 333rd Bomb Squadron/94th Bomb Group [TS-L] "DEAR DAVIE" 22/4/43; Missing in Action near Hamburg 25/7/43 with Alfred "Comet" Jones, **Co-Pilot: Daryl "Speed" Reed, Navigator: Richard Reed, Bombardier: Charlie Marstaller; Radio Operator: Johnathan Graves, Flight Engineer/Top Turret Gunner: Clyde "Pepsi" Ray, Ball Turret Gunner: William Ortlieb, Waist Gunner: Leslie Lipsey, Waist Gunner: Paul Rapoport, Tail Gunner: Thomas Pugh (6 Killed in Action); "DEAR DAVIE" lost to flak/anti-aircraft fire, crashing near Uetersen, 15 miles NW of Hamburg, Germany.

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[nerd things & acknowledgements below cut]

Notes on the B-17F... The B-17F was an upgrade of the previous E model, with several notable changes: A one- or two-piece plexiglas nose cone, as opposed to the ten-paneled cone of previous versions. Reinforced landing gear allowed for a greater maximum payload, from 4,200 lb (1,900 kg) of ordnance to 8,000 lb (3,600 kg). Flight and combat range of the F model was improved by 900 mi (1,400 km) with the addition of nine self-sealing rubber fuel cells in the wing root, aka, "Tokyo tanks". The F model was generally characterized by being tail-heavy - which lead to part failure - and woefully undefended from the front; the early F models had no front-facing armament, leaving a 60° blind spot to the direct front of the aircraft - a flaw which was exploited by German pilots, who held air superiority. Later F models would see a list of possible available modifications (factory and field) such as inserting two .50 caliber machine guns into the nose cone to solve the blind spot. Other modifications to later F models were bulged cheek turrets, as opposed to the window-mounted guns of earlier iterations, and the available addition of the iconic "Bendix" chin turret. The chin turret is far more common on the subsequent G "gunship" variant. ("Dear Davie" is an early F model without the nose mount, bulged cheeks, or chin turret.)

*This model production block, serial no., and fate are borrowed from real-life B-17F #42-29670, "Thundermug." "Thundermug" was an aircraft that originally served in the 333rd Bomb Squadron/94th Bomb Group alongside my great-grandfather and his usual steed, "The Gremlins Hotel." It was transferred to the 544th BS/384th BG, at which point it went Missing in Action over Hamburg from flak/aa-fire; 8 of its crew became POWs while 2 were KIA. I have had the honor to speak to descendants of both of its crews and help them research "Thundermug"; I wish to voice a mere glimpse of their stories in a unique way.

**All names of Alfred's crew are either cobbled-together family names throughout our history here or entirely fictitious - though some were inspired by real people whom I grew up with stories of. All inspirations were individuals that lived good lives post-war.

[avengerphobic]

did the avengers even do anything about orchis? they were killing mutants but the avengers don't even give a shit

🏃🏿‍♂️3dmanofficial Follow

am i joke to you

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🏺greencianurn 🔁 pro-bono-boner

☢️chulkstan Follow

FYI Amadeus is really uncomfortable with yall writing amadeus/herc fics. Cut that shit out

🏺greencianurn Follow

lmao im not gonna stop #why is he even searching it up

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❄️lunasnowed Follow

i cant believe people are still circulating those pictures of brawn and luna kissing #i dont get why people ship them #luna just seems so much like a lesbian #honestly could have been a publicity stunt

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🕷️spidermarvel 🔁 tony-fucked-that-old-man

anonymous asked: I write fanfic of my friends (we're superheroes). Anyway i found my friends fanfiction of us and confronted him about it, and he said it was weird that I was reading fanfiction about us. And i was like well its weird that you're writing fanfiction about us. he called me a hypocrite. And I got mad and yelled at him and told him I didn't like that he wrote fanfiction where we got together and that it was even weirder that he wrote it so that it was a love triangle with our other friend. He's not speaking to me rn. I feel bad because it is hypocritical of me to be mad. But I feel like writing self-ship is different than shipping your friends. idk....

⚖️aita-polls Follow

#did msmarvel send this in lol

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⚔️blackknightofficial

actually really hurt that theres hardly any rpf of me #there should at least be a couple of fics of me getting down and dirty during the crusades

🤖robotomato 🔁 cap4cap

🌟cap4cap

people are weird why ship a guy with a dude who tries to kill him like every other week

#dont get the appeal especially when he has a best friend and wife?

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🚀illegalrocketship

I saw one of my mutuals vaguing me for shipping dr doom and reed richards. Girl have you seen the way victor looks at him? I have eyes and a heart #villian/hero antis are such losers

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🌟cap4cap

I DO NOT SHIP SAM WILSON AND STEVE ROGERS I SHIP MONICA RAMBEAU/STEVE ROGERS...... STEVE ROGERS IS NOT GAY #can you people leave me aloneeeee #ive been shipping captain marvel and captain America since before most of yall have been alive

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👨🏻‍🦲mrcleansgaybrother🔁yougottapinata

☄️mutantmeanace Follow

so we're all in agreement that professor x and magneto fucked right

🪅yougottapinata Follow

dont be fucking weird magneto dropped a car through my house??

👨🏻‍🦲mrcleansgaybrother

yeah and he fucked professor x

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🇨🇦 alphadflight 🔁 northstarofficial

anonymous asked: Is it okay to ship you with Iceman even though you're married

💫northstarofficial Follow

Uh, so I'm not the superhero Northstar. I am a roleplay account for the North Star. Like in the Sky. But Sure you can ship me with Iceman #adjalkfjaajkfd

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anonymous asked: Not you shipping Bucky and Steve Rogers even tho steve met bucky when he was literally a child

🦥slothbaby

I DIDNT KNOW 😭 #i should have looked it up i know but it just never occurred to me #because its such a widespread ship

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👨🏻‍🦲mrcleansgaybrother

i want to shine professor x's bald head #id let him run me over with his wheelchair ugh

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🇺🇸 usgaygent

did yall see how sad us agent looked looking at hawkeye in this video. he wants him so bad..... #hawkagent #us agent #hawkeye #clint barton #the way being us agent is a performance for him #and the government doesnt let him act on his feelings #so he just has to burn with desire

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🪩discodomino

why isnt there one million fics about them 😭😭😭 #UGH WHYYYY

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⛈️stormscloud

the way yall ship dazzler with every woman she so much as looks at is so annoying no wonder she's locked in the fucking closet yall wont stop speculating about who she has fucked #i hate rpf fans

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🌞wondermaynnnn

do yall think hank beast and wonder man have explored each others bodies

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[co-mixed]

Secret Wars: Why Reed Didn’t Win

Disclaimer: This post is 100% anti-Reed propaganda and may or may not be sponsored by Latverian government.

Secret Wars is probably the most ambitious event in the Marvel Universe. Building the multiverse and the Ultimate for 15 years only to collapse it all, that’s a huge deal. And of course, Jonathan Hickman was there to see it through. With his tendency to rewrite the whole world order, we get a whole bucket of new mythology, and let me tell you, when it was first coming out, it wasn’t easy to keep all the new info in your head. Now though, that everything is released and cataloged, it’s just a matter of a free week. 

So we start...

We actually start with the Fantastic Four, Avengers, and New Avengers. Those are the three “homework” reads that you need to go through to fully dive into the Battleworld and its origin. New Avengers is the more important one here since it’s tied directly to the events of Secret Wars. And that’s really the one that I wanna focus on, cause… RICHARDS. 

This infuriating man is a part of the Illuminati (you’ve heard of them), and they reassemble in the face of a collision. Nay, multiple collisions with other worlds. As per habit, they choose to cover it all up and pretend that they know everything better than anyone else and get to make the calls. This was a collective work of Charles (with Beast taking over later), Strange, Stark, T’Challa, Namor, and Reed. Of course the whole ordeal stinks of Richards and Stark. It’s not the first rodeo for either and don’t for a second think that they act any differently than they have all the times before. 

The solution that this intellectual elite comes up with is what they call “the unthinkable”. Makes it easier to think about it (but not to do it). To save their world, they have to kill every world (meaning the universe) that 616 is about to collide with. We care very little for a random Earth-5786 or Earth-515151 so what’s the problem? Besides, most of the universes were already dead. But there comes a moment when 616 is about to collide with a healthy world where a group of heroes is fighting tooth and nail for survival.

As good storytelling demands, we get to know them before seeing them die. But that’s not even the point. There was a superhero fight, Strange pulled a rabbit out of a hat, but ultimately, the question stood of whether to kill that universe or await the end of 616. And no one could pull the trigger. T’Challa came up to the plate and said hell nah, Richards backed out (because someone else has to save his family, apparently), everyone refused to do it, except Namor. 

Which, sure, you can say he’s evil (and even list one by one all of his shady deeds), but if he hadn’t done it then, there would be no world to save. There would be no raft or Battleworld. Everyone would be dead (on both Earths). But that doesn’t sit well with heroes’ egos. Not with the way they see themselves, they all want to believe that the heroic sacrifice is better than the burden of knowing that you did the best you could under circumstances. 

They all question Namor and really, thank Doom (what, too soon?) Namor was arrogant enough to be able to justify his actions and even walk away. Even alive.

What’s Namor up to 

Namor goes to all the baddies, including Doom, and asks for help. Because it takes a villain to do the unthinkable. You know why? Because heroes don’t want to get their hands dirty. And in the year of our Doom 2025, we know well enough that you can’t remain clean if you want to get anywhere. But the Illuminati, for all their talk, are not just looking for an intellectual and classy solution. They know there isn’t one. So they are keeping themselves busy, trying to outsmart each other and trick the rest into doing the hard part. That’s not what all heroes would do, no. Some would die trying to save everyone, some would save who they can, but these… these guys were trying to save their conscience. And they did, while Namor was getting his hands very dirty alongside Thanos, his Cull Obsidian, and Black Swan (who turned out to be just a Doom cultist, go figure). 

Namor sent Thanos to clear every Earth that was on a collision course until there were only two left. We do care for the Ultimate Earth. 

Doom had other plans

Wouldn’t be fair to say that Doom orchestrated the whole shebang. Doom would probably say so, but we don’t have to believe them. Besides, we know that there was a grand design behind it all. And it included eventual destruction of all that is… was. Of all. Doom merely sped up the process and attempted to control it, which is really not a bad thing to do. It’s the same approach the Illuminati used only much more complex, layered, and clever. Don’t ever say Doom is stupider than Richards. 

Doom did save the world, parts of every world in fact. He did what never even occurred to anyone else. All the Illuminati wanted was to save their hides. Or die in a blaze of glory and live forever as heroes of the multiverse. Because if you’re a skeptic and you really peel layers of care for other people, wanting to save what everyone loves, standing for everything good against everything bad… When you take it all away, there is just saving yourself and all that you love. It just happens to be in this world. 

That’s why they kicked out Cap, that’s why he hunted them down. 

Back to Doom though, we want to give him a hard time for taking on the role of god. We probably even want to praise Strange for not doing it. But we can only really imagine what world would it be with Strange at its helm. Strange, or anyone else acting in anonymity under seven stamps of secrecy. 

The world Doom built was not ideal. Wasn’t even good, I mean, he made sure all his enemies were busy fighting for their lives. He even gave them all targets to aim their heroism at. There was always injustice, there was always someone or something to fight. What he didn’t take into account was villains. He gave them thrones but not a single one of them ever stopped eyeing his throne with envy. That’s villains for you, that’s why their Sinister Sixes and Frightful Fours never work out. It’s always a backstabbing festival, and Doom being god doesn’t change that. 

Not a single Richards in sight 

Doom hates Reed, which makes it hard to hate Doom. But for the most part, Reeds took care of themselves with their cursed council. So was it shocking that there were no Reeds anywhere? Not so much. It was actually a pleasant change. Doom did save Reed’s family though, the family Reed lost during malfunction on the raft. The family he claims he was ready to sacrifice worlds for.

I mean his raft was a great cover to pack all his family and a couple of extra bodies, and head for the hills to “preserve the human race” (didn’t even consider mutants or Skrulls — Reed hates Skrulls). He would’ve gotten on the raft himself (hello, genius!), would’ve packed Val there (again, genius), Franklin can remake worlds so that’s handy, and Sue… well, someone needs to cook for all the great minds? Okay, he was planning to stick her, Ben, and maybe Johnny as security crew. That was the great plan when he failed to save everyone. How is that any better than Nu-Earth, Reed? How are you any better? 

Again, he failed. And everything he did after when Battleworld started falling apart, was merely piggybacking on the idea Doom had with his far more vast resources (his son. Yes, he used his child as a world maker). And it wasn’t even all his idea. Really, he should’ve come to Valeria in the first place instead of running around hiding in secret societies. 

Reed didn’t win, he wasn’t a hero. He was just second. He got the time he needed to tackle the issue, he got what Namor and Doom both gave him. He failed. 

[homosexuhauls]

Can you imagine if a white lesbian public figure brutally murdered two trans women in an interracial relationship and their black son? The headlines, the think-pieces, op-eds...we would never hear the end of it. It would be blamed on lesbian communities as a whole and the transmisogyny and white supremacy we obviously perpetuate on a daily basis just by existing. Cotton ceiling discourse would be back with a vengeance. There would be rallies and vigils, there would be calls to "Stand by your trans", there would be "#LWithTheT" marches. There would be a community in mourning, full of fury and hurt and self-righteous rage at the nasty lesbian aggressors who clearly caused this anti-trans hate crime. There would be no room for nuance and all lesbians would be painted with the "evil cis white dykes want us dead" brush. All of this would be seen as a completely acceptable and understandable response to a brutal act of anti-trans violence by a lesbian perpetrator.

So where is the noise? Where is the clamouring? Where is the sound and fury, when a famous white trans activist murders an interracial lesbian couple and their black son? I don't expect (or want) it to spark a radfem revolution, but why is the silence around the Dana Rivers murder case so deafening? Why does no one in the so-called LGBTQ+ community care enough to loudly and proudly mourn and celebrate these women and their son? Charlotte, Patricia and Benny deserve to be remembered. They deserve our sound and fury. Even if it's difficult, even if the optics don't suit your world views, we cannot ignore some injustices and claim to fight against others. The cowardly LGBT+ media organisations and charities covering their eyes and pretending that this act of violence never happened, they will happily call on lesbians for solidarity this pride month, despite showing no solidarity for a lesbian family slaughtered by an apparent member of our own "community". How can we call this anything other than a cover-up, or at the very least, deliberate and contrived ignorance?

Patricia Wright. Charlotte Reed. Benny Toto Diambu-Wright. Their lives were stolen from them on November 11th 2016. I can find no obituarities, and minimal mainstream media coverage of their murders. For many years, it felt almost as if their suffering had been forgotten. It has taken six and a half years for their murderer to be convicted and sentenced to life without parole, a sentence which Rivers will spend in a women's prison. Is this justice, or a pale imitation of such? Either way, I hope this family may finally rest in peace and power, and that their loved ones may begin to move forwards.

Pat and Char, as they were known to friends and family, are survived by two children. Patricia worked as a school teacher and deaf interpreter for schools, while Charlotte worked in a salon known locally for being trans-inclusive. Patricia was also an artist and talented actor, having considered a career in performing arts after high school. Charlotte had previously been a member of an all-female motorcycle club, which Rivers was also involved in. Both Charlotte and Patricia were also former regular attendees of MichFest, a feminist music festival which was closed down in 2015, following years of protests by trans women including Dana Rivers. 19-year-old Benny had just graduated high school and, according to his brother, hoped to become a nurse.

A victim impact statement was read out by Richard Wright, Patricia's younger brother, during Rivers' sentencing. I can't find the full text but much of the statement can be found in the Berkeley Scanner article below. Wright describes the impact of finding out that his sister and her family had been "assassinated in their own home" and the traumatising experience of searching for important paperwork at the bloodied crime scene that was once their home. According to Richard, Dana Rivers "chose her [sic] entitlement and narcissism over basic human decency" and "chose violence, cruelty, sadism and entitlement — over and over and over again." This is in reference to the length of court proceedings due to Rivers' changing pleas, as well as the brutality of the crime itself, which was carried out using guns, knives and arson. According to the judge, the murders of Patricia, Charlotte and Benny were "the most depraved crime that I’ve handled in the criminal justice field in 33 years."

No one but Rivers is responsible for these heinous crime, but all of us are responsible for ensuring history is not forgotten, and that the stories of those taken from us continue to be told. And when we tell their stories, in sound and in fury, we must ensure they do not fall on deaf ears.

"They were real people, not collateral damage...They deserve to be seen."

- Richard Wright's victim impact statement

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[aamy2100982]

what comic would be the best to start reading venom comics? (as a newcomer to reading comics in general)

It's been DAYS since you put this in my inbox, sorry I didn't answered sooner. I think I once said that I don't consider myself the right person to recommend comics because I myself started this journey without knowing anything and starting with the whole 2018 event that turned Eddie into a god and whatever. BUT! I can give you a path to where Venom comics start so you don't have to search through all the mess.

If you want to know some lore, you have to keep in mind that Venom started out as a villain and the symbiote was introduced long before Eddie. And I don't recommend reading by date necessarily, because you're going to swallow the thousand and one Spiderman comics from the 60s to the 90s when Venom finally became independent as a character.

So you can know that the first appearance of the symbiote was in:

MARVEL SUPER HEROES SECRET WARS (1984) issue #8

Spiderman's entire journey with the symbiote lasts from

THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (1963) issue #252 to #258

Spiderman has two suits, a cloth one and the symbiote, just in case you ever see a cover of Spiderman wearing the black suit but then notice it's not really the symbiote. It's like only 6 issues.

Which is funny, because Peter sometimes washed the symbiote like it was clothes without knowing xd

After being separated from Peter, we don't see the symbiote until much later. in the epilogue of:

FANTASTIC FOUR (1961) issue #274

In which the symbiote escapes from Reed Richards' lab

and we don't see it again until:

WEB OF SPIDER-MAN (1985)

Where they try to join Peter again and we see the iconic scene where Spiderman takes off the symbiote with the help of the church bells

Interestingly, this only happens in the first issue and then the symbiote is not relevant until...

THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (1963) ISSUE #299

Where at the end of the pages we are introduced for the first time to the infamous VENOM!

And this is where the important part comes in:

The whole issue #300 is totally dedicated to them, very important, because I think it sets out what the character was like from the beginning

And here we can stop spewing lore and talk about some comics that are just plain fun

If you want to read about Venom in their Villain stage I can honestly only tell you that it's a short story

There are many, so I'm going to put only the ones that are in THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (1963)

As his notable threat to Peter's life

#315 - #317

#332 - #333

#346 - #347

The Birth of Carnage

#361 - #363

And finally

#374 - #375

Where Venom and Spiderman make a peace pact and Venom officially becomes an anti-hero.

About his anti-hero phase, I think the most important thing is to start with the

Lethal Protector from 1993

There is also Venom: Pyre Funeral, crossover with Punicher

Venom: The Enemy Within, crossover with MorbiusVenom: The Enemy Within (1994)

There are several others like The Hunger or The Madness but my main problem with the 90's is that they have very dark and edgy writing which can be confusing at times xd

So you can also read the Lethal Protectors of 2022 and 2023, which are less heavy and are written, in fact, by one of the co-creators of Venom, so the essence of the character is not lost.

There's a lot more to it, but I think that's all I can say to make it less of a drag, especially if you're just starting out with comics. It was a pain for me too and I spent more time on this than you think

Again, sorry for the delay, at this point you've probably already asked someone else xd

[keepsmagnetoaway]

Marvel Team-Up 100 (December 1980)

Chris Claremont/Frank Miller & John Byrne

We've read a fair few issues of the long-running Marvel Team-Up and it's always an interesting time: now, for its 100th issue, we have the treat of it featuring X-Men (or, at least, X-Men-related characters) in both its main story and its back-up, both of which are striking and important stories.

In the first of them, the featured team-up is actually Spider-Man (yay!) and the Fantastic Four (boo!), but the story also introduces the silhouetted figure you can see here, initially seemingly as a villain.

If you're thinking "fuck, these layouts are good," then you're right: it's Frank Fucking Miller! We don't have time for Miller Discourse - I will literally never have time for Miller Discourse - but Miller here was at the beginning of his imperial phase, having just started drawind Daredevil and being on the point of taking over writing on it too, and his distinctively moody take on New York City is on display in this issue. This nightmare Deco tower, at a wildly expressionist angle, is purest Miller.

Anyway, I'm skipping over most of the action here because it's Reed Richards bullshit and I hate it, but I do want to talk about that mysterious new character: it's Karma, and she's got Issues.

A beautiful panel filled with politics: that's good comics, baby. It's important to say that there is also a fair amount of tone-deaf stuff about Asians in this issue - Karma's wider family feature and they're not exactly subtly depicted, especially the villainous members, who include Karma's evil twin brother.

And yet...this is 1980, the Vietnam War is a recent memory in the US, and along comes a complex, traumatized Vietnamese character, who evolves from villain to anti-hero to something like a full-on hero in the space of this single comic when - in a moment that's genuinely shocking, coming as it does in the middle of a fight in which Peter Parker and Ben Grimm seem to be competing to make the most wise-cracks - she kills and psychically absorbs her brother. This, I repeat, is our introduction to this character, her very first issue. Fucking hell.

And that's Karma! The story ends just after this, with her tentatively established as some kind of hero, but the reader is none the wiser about what's coming next for her: which was, as you probably know, an integration into the X-Men world and a gradual emergence as one of the most interesting and popular characters of that world (helped by the fact that she also eventually turns out to be gay, hell yeah). It's a hell of an introduction and a fascinatingly political story about the shadow of American imperialism, and it's then followed by this issue's back-up story, which is also powerfully political.

This is a Claremont/Byrne story, a little chaser after our farewell to him in the main book, and (despite the team behind it...) it's about Blackness. It's The One Where Storm and Black Panther Meet, And Also Apartheid South Africa Tries To Kill Ororo.

It's actually largely told, after the initial sequence, in a flashback to their first meeting, and I have tried and failed to work out how it's supposed to fit in with the backstory also depicted in the 2006 Storm series - I don't think they exactly line up, but the 2006 series does sort of reference and expand on this story, in particular by reusing Andreas 'The Bull' de Ruyter, the enjoyably repulsive Afrikaner villain.

In the present, it turns out, de Ruyter is still trying to kill them, and they get to defeat him all over again, and part ways in a bittersweet, ship-teasy moment (again, no idea how this fits into subsequent canon with them getting married and so forth, but, who cares).

This is a really remarkable issue, all told, and though it's all created by white men, and as ever there are some, shall we say, heavy-handed moments, but its use nevertheless of a Vietnamese heroine, her life ruined by American warfare, and of two Black heroes fighting an explicitly apartheid-supporting villain is pretty striking: on top of which, the art is outstanding. Great stuff! This is also the start of a run of half a dozen guest appearances and the like from this era that we're about to read, so let's hope the rest of them are this interesting.

[nevenkebla]

La anti-tierra

Fantastic Four: Full Circle (2022) #1 Alex Ross (Escritor, dibujante)

— Ben Grimm: ¿En serio has tenido que decirle a Pinocho que no era un niño de verdad? Y ahora… ¡Ahora nos vemos lanzados por el espacio como muñecos de trapo! ¡Otra vez! — Reed Richards: ¡Agarraos, todos! ¡Puedo desacelerar nuestro descenso! — Susan Storm: Gracias. Casi me desmayo. — Reed Richards: Lo siento, cielo. Siempre nos ocurre lo mismo cuando venimos aquí. — Johnny Storm: Pillado por un pie… por los pelos. — Ben Grimm: Reed, ¿tienes algún colega imbécil más de la uni con el que tengamos que andarnos con ojo? — Johnny Storm: Solo tú, guapo. ¡Eh, vamos a tener otra reunión! ¡Mirad, el planeta con rocas explotando a su alrededor! ¡Hemos vuelto! — Reed Richards: Sí, en fin, es más que eso. Es… ¡La anti-Tierra!

— Reed Richards: Veréis, es la contrapartida de nuestra tierra en el universo antimaterial. — Ben Grimm: Incluso tiene los mismos continentes, ¿eh? — Johnny Storm: Reed, creía que esto era algo que identificaste como nuestra tierra vista a través de una… ¿Cómo lo llamaste? ¿Una interfaz dimensional? — Reed Richards: Correcto, Johnny. Y creo que me equivocaba. Ahora creo que cuanto encontramos en la zona tiene una relación distorsionada con nuestro universo. Puede que me equivoque… ¡Pero creo que aquí está ocurriendo algo único! Como veis, la superficie de este mundo no está dañada por los asteroides que se ven atraídos hacia él… ¿Por qué? ¿Cómo? — Ben Grimm: Son muchas rocas. — Reed Richards: Cuando las rocas colisionan con la atmósfera… ¡Los restos no llueven sobre el planeta de ahí abajo! — Ben Grimm: Ya, así que… ¿Qué?

— Reed Richards: ¡Creo que ahí abajo tiene lugar algo fantástico, Ben! ¡Y creo que una Tierra con su propio campo de fuerza anuladora es un fenómeno antinatural! Creé estos trajes para neutralizar el conflicto entre materia y antimateria. Cuando cruzamos por el subespacio, nuestros cuerpos se convirtieron en antimateria, para sobrevivir aquí. Nuestro escudo de fuerza nula debería protegernos del mismo modo que le ocurre al planeta. ¡Ahí abajo, alguien ha averiguado cómo proteger todo un planeta de la amenaza de un universo hostil! ¡Quiero bajar ahí para averiguar cómo! — Ben Grimm: ¡¿Estás de puñetera coña?! — Johnny Storm: ¡Calma, Ben! — Reed Richards: ¡Creo que podemos hacerlo sin peligro! — Ben Grimm: Ya lo pensaste antes y te equivocaste. ¡MÍRAME! — Reed Richards: Ben, los poderes combinados de Sue y Johnny pueden conseguir que lleguemos sanos y salvos. Sue puede protegernos, mientras Johnny absorbe y redirige el calor de la entrada en la atmósfera. ¡Los trajes de fuerza nula harán el resto! — Ben Grimm: ¡Otra vez con los riesgos innecesarios! ¡¿En qué quieres convertirme ahora?! De todas las absurdas… — Susan Storm: ¡Ben, conoces a Reed! Sus creencias nunca se basan en la esperanza ciega. Puedes confiar en él. — Johnny Storm: Vamos, Ben, tú también quieres ver qué hay ahí abajo, ¿verdad? Yo quiero ver si tienen un Shoney’s. — Ben Grimm: Ah, a la porra. Con tal de ver a unos tipos que no hayan evolucionado a partir de los chimpancés… — Susan Storm: ¡Pues agarraos, que allá vamos! — Johnny Storm: Crucemos el arco iris.

— Johnny Storm: ¿Demasiado calor para vosotros? — Ben Grimm: Fuerza nula, ¿recuerdas? — Johnny Storm: En serio, decídmelo. — Reed Richards: Estamos bien, Johnny. El traje también niega la temperatura. — Johnny Storm: Jo, ya no me siento especial… — Reed Richards: ¡Mirad, una civilización tal como había conjeturado! — Ben Grimm: ¡Eh, más lento, estirado! ¡Que voy a devolver el desayuno! — Johnny Storm: ¡Menudas chabolas! ¿Por qué no vivimos aquí en vez de en casa?

[rowinablx]

Imagine being so racist about Pedro being Reed you try to say Fant4stic was good

[maxwell-grant]

People keep asking you about the Bat-villains, and I figured I might as well do something a bit different. So, I've oft heard it said that the best Rogue's Galleries in Big Two Cape Comics are (in no particular order) Batman, Spider-Man, The Flash, the FF, and Superman. Would you agree with that assessment? Which of the other four would you be interested in discussing?

Can't find much fault in that statement and I'm honestly down for discussing any of them as well as others (although I'm really not as read on Flash), last thing I'm in shortage of is thoughts regarding villains and rogues galleries. I'd say the one that's been most on my head the past weeks has been the Fantastic Four's rogues, because I recently finished a big readthrough of their major Waid/Millar/Hickman runs and am currently going through Secret Wars, so how these guys click and how they've been used over the years and how weirdly they are structured is something I've been thinking about a bit.

I say weird because the F4 rogues don't exactly lend themselves to the kind of multiple team-ups you see with Spidey and Batman, these guys all developed over the years into weird rulers of their own sub-divisions of the world. Even as far back as the Kirby/Lee era they've always had a pecking order in place, but they've never been too numerous or conductive to forming their own Sinister Sixes or Rogues or Revenge Squads. It's like even by rogues gallery standards, these guys are all freaks too powerful to be underestimated but too anti-social to form team-ups and so they are all kind of operating on different levels. They're not porous and easy-to-transplant like Spidey's villains, and they are not as defined by the biggest and most popular among them as you'd expect, they don't have that kind of monsters vs costumed shmucks dynamic you see more pointedly in Flash, rather they exist more like pieces on a map than a balance, and as a result they have very little overlap compared to the others.

Like, The Wizard may have started, for all intents and purposes, as a small-scale Doctor Doom to do stories you couldn't bring Doom without devaluing him, but The Frightful Four actually had a clutch of fairly impressive victories in the Lee/Kirby run, and The Wizard stuck around carving his own niche in the years since. Of course Doom rules the roost uncontested, but he is a character who's grown big enough to the point he's more of a supporting character/protagonist than the others, and where as Spidey and Batman have a ton of villains that keep losing space to The Joker or the Goblin or the Symbiotes and so on, The Thinker does not exist in the same length as the Puppet Master or the Skrulls, who don't occupy the same kind of alien menace role as the Inhumans or the Kree, neither of which overlaps with Annihilus and the Negative Zone, who is totally different from the other strange master of hidden armies Mole Man, and so on.

It never feels like these guys have to fight for space the way these other rogues do, they have their roles being their own unique kind of roadblocks to the adventure (in fact, when there was a literal war for space in Hickman's Four Cities arc, they called a meeting of the rogues gallery to try and solve the problem of multiversal Reeds pushing civilizations into duking it out, so they could get back to what really mattered: trying to destroy their Reed Richards). Most might not be very flexible characters, but they all have a place in the toolkit. And for the most part they don't really define the stories of the Fantastic Four as much as these others do and I think that works very nicely for them, they are very dependable guys to have around.