#anti miraculous ladybug wiki

[plumsaffron]

Observing the extremely biased Lila page on that ml wiki.

Just shows how many of them have divine levels of tunnel vision.

They are usually absolutely moronic. Same goes for the page editors.

No, it’s not the only page.

Regardless, they should rewatch everything not featuring her so they can think exclusively of their twisted herocentric protagonistic morality has corroded them.

And other trites around them to a point or cycle of low to no escape

[sacredartist33013]

Oh miraculous... You frustrate me and pull me in. Didn't think I'd get pulled into this but i guess I'm a hypocrite anyway. So it looks like it's my turn to dip my toes into the pool of altering the powers of miraculous.

While i might not sound as enthusiastic as i could be I'm very happy. It's just hard sometimes to be happy when you now know why you got so annoyed at how something's been done. Changing or altering the powers of existing miraculous is nothing new(see rooster as most changed next to tiger because people think tiger should've been an invisibility power). I could never tell why i got so annoyed at these in any way shape or form... Until i suddenly realised why.

It's because almost none of them actually seemed to try to keep with the canon concept. None at all. They'll just spout out something like(sonic scream for rooster,earth and fire for dragon,earth for pig,light for rooster,invisibility for tiger) and in ways i don't understand I'm just frustarted.

And it's time i stop. My hypocrisy that made a damn has been destroyed and I've been spending some time trying to figure this out... I decided for now I'll do 2 miraculous at a time. So how about some of my favorites first.

So let's start with the first one... The bee miraculous of action.

How ill do this is give a quick rundown of what the miraculous in canon does, there tool, and even ideas I've seen other people do before if i find any.

The bee miraculous is a hair comb that is inhabited by pollen. The bee kwami of action, and when used in conjunction with the word pollen, buzz on! the wearing becomes a bee themed hero or villain.

The tool of choice for the bee is a spinning top(mire specifically a trompo. A spinning top spun with a string) the power this miraculous uses is a power known as venom. Which allows the user to imbue the spinning top with the power to be used as a stinging tool to fully paralyze someone for as long as they're transformed.

Now the thing i see the most talked about is people hating that the power is called venom. As well as thinking it should have been a hive mind control based power.

And so what is it I propose in this power change

A mix of both... It's like people forgot new powers are a thing. Ladybug learned how to make anti akuma charms(I'll talk about that later) hawkmoth learned how to make megakumas that could overpower the charm. So why shouldn't the bee be able to get new powers itself.

So here are my changes

Power 1: venom. This enables bee miraculous to stop all movement within a target that is stung for as long as you're transformed.

Power 2: hive venom. Instead of a paralyzing sting this one lets you assert your will against someone who got stung. A weaker version of this would be controlling an individual limb

Now let's move on to the second one I'll discuss today. The turtle miraculous of protection!

Based on what i mainly post on/retweet it should be no surprise that i really love this miraculous. And nobody seems to have really large problems with this one either.

The turtle miraculous is a bracelet that is inhabited by wayzz the turtle kwami of protection. And by wearing it and saying wayzz,shell on! The wielder fan become a turtle themed hero or villain.

The tool this time is a shield, an unbreakable one according to the wiki. And it allows one to use the power shell ter. Which summons a strong but not unbreakable green forcefield. And as we learn throughout the show this forcefield can be projected away from you to protect something at a distance and possibly shrink(...i think i saw the robots who could use it make ones that could be shrunk)

Now just because people have little problems doesn't mean there aren't any. I commonly see the problem being that the shield is too fragile. Or that it's underpowered compared to some of the other original 7 we saw. They'll also mention how it should have the resistance power of the ox miraculous to make an unbreakable defense.

Considering we see shell ter broke when its A)nino who's is still a minor using it and b)when someone using it loses focus. It's safe to say shell ter will be a lot stronger When used by an adult or while they're focusing on it.

So once again here are my ideas

Power 1: shell ter. Creates a green patterned forcefield in the shape of a bubble or dome

Power 2:battle shell ter. The ability to compress and form the shell ter into an armor shape. Still only one shell ter per minor with this poser so be very careful you don't waste it.

Power 3: spirit shell ter: protecting not the body but the mind and soul from outside forces(possibly a way to protect or ward against possession or corruption via magic like the akumas. Maybe not purify one but certainly guard against it's influence). I know only 2 popped up for bee but I'm having some difficulty with that I'm afraid.

And finally while i can't think of any ideas for other bee powers right now i do have ideas for the trompo. We've seen the tools used by ladybug and chat noir be able to take a few forms. Or at least in the show we've seen chat but there is art of ladybugs yoyo becoming other forms. My idea is simply to be able to become a drone or even a dart launcher. Simple in the way of firing or unleashing venom or hive venom in multiple people.

This wasn't as explosive as i really wanted it to be. I almost imagined summoning up multiple cool powers for a whole spell library. I guess this could be considered a demo.

If anyone was curious I've heavily repurposed all my oddball miraculous because i didn't enjoy them... Now i kinda do enjoy the different miraculous i possess now. I'll probably bring more attention or updates/talk on it at a dedicated post.

[tumblingxelian]

Okay, so I was looking at the Miraculous wiki and is it just me or are the Disney+ episode descriptions are a bit overly simple?

Almost all of them follow this formula:

'Ladybug and Chat Noir face [x]'

x being whoever the akuma/villain is for the episode.

It'd be one thing if it was just the first few seasons or whatever but... no, this keeps going.

From season 1..

Into season 2, where they drop Chat Noir from the description a bit into the season.

But they shift back later on towards the end.

Then immediately go back to having dropped Chat Noir in Season 3.

Also brief side tangent, but for some reason everyone who wrote a description (at least in english) for the episode 'Stormy Weather 2' seems to think that the 2 is part of the Akuma name.

Anyway, on to Season 4! Where they let Chat Noir back into the description but dumped out the bit where they mention the civilian identity of the Akuma.

So that's pretty much how it goes for much of Season 4.

And in season 5... they varied the formula a bit in the early episodes.

They seem to shift back eventually.

And yeah, that's about it.

Sorry for the very long ask, I just felt I needed to tell someone about this.

Yeah those are pretty damn bland, I guess Disney's "anti spoiler" ideology is at play so they want to keep things as minimal as possible.

[cutepastelstarsalior]

BAD FRIENDS part 2!!!!!!!!!

Aka characters from the BadFriendsWiki that I missed

Yellow Steven (Steven Universe)

Mother Widow (Coraline)

Turbo K.O. (OK K.O.! Let’s be Heroes)

Mirror Lapis (Steven Universe)

Miss Fortune and Cat Blanc (Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir)

Gem Warrior Connie (Steven Universe)

Anti-Hiro and Killer Baymax (Big Hero 6)

Flowey (Undertale)

Villain Deku (My Hero Academia)

Wolf Ben (Ben 10)

Club President Sayori (Doki Doki Literature Club)

XANA Warriors (Code Lyoko)

Midnight Sparkle (My Little Pony: Equestria Girls)

Demon Sunset (My Little Pony: Equestria Girls)

Evil Cuphead and Vile Mugman (Cuphead)

Dark Danny (Danny Phantom)

Abandoned Spinel (Steven Universe)

Majora Link (The Legend of Zelda)

Eclipse Jim (Trollhunters)

Infected She-Ra (She-Ra and The Princesses of Power)

Empress Buddy (LISA)

Father Widow (Coraline)

Invader Zib (Invader Zim)

Train Dispatcher Tulip (Infinity Train)

Commander Anne (Amphibia)

Pride Al (Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood)

Evil Jimmy (Jimmy Neutron)

Nega-Timmy (Fairly Odd Parents)

Queen Kipo (Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts)

Inner Willow (The Owl House)

Darth Tano (Star Wars: The Clone Wars)

Virus Vanellope (Wreck-It Ralph)

Cannibal Six (Little Nightmares)

Dark Spyro (Skylanders)

Demi-God Arnold (Hey Arnold!)

Red X (Teen Titans)

Fancy Queen Reggie (Twelve Forever)

Emperor Ken (Digimon Adventure)

Dusk Koichi (Digimon Frontier)

Moon Prince Kubo (Kubo and the Two Strings)

Apprentice Terra (Teen Titans)

Fleetway Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog)

Mecha Sally (Sonic the Hedgehog)

Luz Azura (The Owl House)

Vengeful Varian (Rapunzel's Tangled Adventures)

Moonstone Varian (Rapunzel's Tangled Adventures)

Tainted Mirabel (Encanto)

Lonely Mono (Little Nightmares 2)

Golden Freddy (Five Nights At Freddy's)

Nightmare Agatha (Dark Deception)

Solver Uzi (Murder Drones)

Infected The Knight (Hollow Knight)

Anti-Molly (Bump in the Nights)

Rocket Red (Pokémon)

Zach Watterson (The Amazing World of Gumball)

Snowgrave Noelle (Deltarune)

Cider Thug Ash (Fantastic Mr. Fox)

Krangified Raph (ROTMNT)

MegaBee (Transformers)

Shadowzoned Miko (Transformers)

Not on the list but I thought it would be fun to add; Superior Spider-Man, and any venom/Symbiote possessed characters.

Note

Mal from Total Drama IS on the Wiki but I didn’t add him here, since he’s canonically an Alter in a DID system. All the other BEF characters are people who are possessed, has other supernatural mishaps, or lost their mind. Hence why I’m adding this little note.

How many bad end friends are there? I’ve seen;

Bipper (possesses dipper gravity falls)

Weirdmagadin/ruined birthday Mabel (gravity falls)

Evil morty (Rick and morty)

Mewberty star (svtfoe)

Demon Marco (svtfoe)

Ice king Finn (adventure time)

Beast wirt (over the garden wall)

Corrupt Steven (Steven universe)

Doll Coralline (coralline)

Darcy (dark Marcy amphibia)

Chara (undertale)

Mind control/chipped catra (she-ra)

Mind control/cultist max (camp camp)

NormiRandy (Randy Cunningham 9th grade ninja)

Possessed Hunter (the owl house)

Possessed Lena (ducktales 2017)

Witch/possessed Norma (paranorman)

Ghost king(?) Danny (Danny phantom)

Plant queen Sam (Danny Phantom)

Pharaoh Tuck (Danny Phantom)

I think there more? But most of them are just 1 time things or not very popular…Alos the fact like 99% of these characters are just possessed is something…

[serfuzzypushover]

🍂PINNED POST🍂

Heya! My name is Anton but you can call me Kris, Spade or Thistle! SerFuzzy or Fuzzy is also fine but those are more like nicknames uwu 

Stuff about me 🚀

I’m a 17 year old artist with OCD from Greece! 

I mostly draw undertale and deltarune rn but u might see me jump into other fandoms here and there uwu 💚

I’m a trans nonbinary genderqueer clowngender genderbun teacupgender tiredgender genderflux male! But just genderqueer is fine as well lol (check my pronouns down bellow please!) 🏳‍🌈

I’m omnisexual, aromantic and also polyamorous! ✨

Stuff I draw 🌼

Mostly undertale and deltarune- I draw both canon stuff and AUs! Most of the time they are my versions of existing AUs but some times I draw fanart of fangames qwq (like bonely hearts club cause im a simp)

DNI 💀

[im working on a new version of my dni and i’ll update yall when i do it]

Pronouns, Kin list, FAQ and links are under the keep reading 🎀

Pronouns 🍁

he/him/his/himself

they/them/theirs/themself

thon/thon/thons/thonself

spade/spade/spades/spadeself

bun/bun/buns/bunself

hay/hay/hays/hayself

nye/nyeh/nyehs/nyehself

🐰/🐰/🐰s/🐰self

♠/♠/♠s/♠self

☁/☁/☁s/☁self

Kin list 🐾

Thistleclaw(warrior cats)

Tree(wc)

Crookedstar(wc)

Flowey/Asriel(undertale)

Papyrus(ut)

Alphys(ut)

Jevil(deltarune)

Kris(dr)

Hordak(she-ra)

Lila Rossi(miraculous ladybug)

FAQ 🎈

-’Who is bun/star?’

I use a lot of my headcanons on my posts(full list below). For example I hc that Papyrus uses bun/buns pronouns and Sans uses star/stars! If you’re anti-xenogenders please don’t interact with my posts to be a clown(derogatory), thank u 💕

-’Can I request [blank}?’

If my requests are open, you can check my bio if they are, then yes! But that doesn’t mean that I will complete all of them since I get a few of them and I’m also studying for finals,,,

-’What are xenogenders/Is there a xenogender that [blank]?’

The lgbta+ wiki has a great explanation and list of xenogenders that might be what you’re looking for! Here’s a link!!

List of my headcanons so you won’t get confused! 🍪

Sans: stargender, uses star/stars, 💤/💤s and ⭐/⭐s

Papyrus: agender bungender, uses bun/buns

Toriel: demigirl, uses she/her and snai/snail

Asgore: nonbinary male, uses he/him, thon/thons and 🌼/🌼s

Alphys: catgender, uses she/her and nya/nyas

Undyne: nonbinary female: uses she/her, they/them and tea/teas

Links 🎮

Self insert account: @serfuzzyy

[miraculouscontent]

Ask Explo--

...you know what, you’re right. Name change effective immediately.

Askplosion #10:

(unrelated to everything by the way but I DEMAND THE ANON WHO MENTIONED “REMARRIED EMPRESS” A WHILE BACK COME FORTH AND ANSWER FOR THEIR CRIMES. IT’S SO GOOD BUT IT’S UNFINISHED AND I’M HOOKED, HOW DARE YOU)

Asks responding to previous posts:

It’s okay! I figured that was what it was but it’s been so loooong.

Ah, wow.

Um, that’s definitely not a part 2; I think that’s more like a four-parter/five-parter or something.

Sorry! No can do!

That’s totally fair!

I think the reason I so quickly agreed with it is like--

I’ve been watching the Inuyasha sequel and it’s not like I don’t think the narrative’s apparent punching bag Moroha (who is fourteen years old) shouldn’t be punished when she does something wrong/sneaky/manipulative, but they punish her as if she’s Miroku (who was eighteen years old).

Basically, I want the punishment to take the age into account, or at least only affect Marinette on a more personal level and not be “Heart Hunter” where they take totally understandable feelings of heartache (remember, it wouldn’t have mattered which miraculous she took because Hawk Moth got the Miracle Box and Fu regardless; even beyond her emotions, I feel like she chose the best option available to her considering which temps she knew the location of) and then punish her for them by memory wiping Fu and taking away all of her temps and giving Hawk Moth the grimoire translation.

Yes!! I really wanted to respond to this one, thank you! (It’s this one and then there was another one talking about Luka and Adrien, then talked to me about how I refer to Luka as “soft” but not in a bad way; I unfortunately don’t remember the whole thing.)

Ahaha, and yeah, I feel you. Anti-salters are a very strange conundrum I still haven’t figured out; like, I get not liking salt, but...

I mean, when I don’t like certain content, I just blacklist it. If I end up seeing it anyway due to cross-tagging or a lack of tagging, then I just blacklist the person themself. You won’t see me going after people for that very reason; I only see what people send/ask me if it’s content I don’t like.

I’m glad you’ve found some peace in this blog! Hopefully it continues to be that way for you in the future!

(and yay, a fellow INTJ!!)

New Asks:

There are female writers? ;P I just assumed they were all locked in a closet until the male ones were like, “okay, pretend to help us here, we need one female writer to claim girl power.”

As for Ladybug all like, “Cute, isn’t she?” I think it was rhetorical (she could also be messing with him but “Glaciator” tells us that she didn’t know he crushed on her so who knows). The writers do this thing where Marinette is all panic-y and occasionally self-conscious as herself, but then as Ladybug, she suddenly gets a bit of an ego. I think it’s meant to be there in order to make Chat Noir look less... idk, “obnoxious” when he starts boosting his own ego; trying to balance the two by giving them both big heads, so to speak.

Honestly, I feel like Adrien needs less screen time. :|

Even when he’s not on-screen, characters are usually talking about him, or you see his face in Marinette’s room/somewhere in Paris. I’m become so jaded by the guy that I don’t even think it’d matter if they remade the series and gave it a “totally good and interesting Adrien.” That’s how badly the show has made him out for me; “Adrien Agreste” the character is just... sigh, I’m so done with him.

And yeah, this whole idea about, “Marinette is [x], we need more AAAAAADRIEN!�� comes off really bad, lol, especially when Adrien has very little going for him.

(this ask ends off like there should be a part 2 but there isn’t one in my inbox, so sorry if there’s meant to be something else!)

The exact lyrics according to the wiki:

My wish for a cat who's in love, with our own Ladybug. Is that he'll get what he's always wanted! She doesn't know she loves him, only sees Adrien, But Christmas miracles always happen!

Yeah, especially nowadays, those lines bothers me. Not only does it imply “true selves,” but that it’s Chat who should be getting what he always wanted and Ladybug is the one with a problem.

Like, excuse me?

Probably Stormy Weather, even in the first episode. Ladybug and Chat Noir couldn’t even touch her until they arrived on top of the TV station.

+ With all those effects and shots, it made it feel more action-y than typical episodes.

Marinette, Aurore, Luka, Anarka, Jagged...

basically any name that I haven’t really heard before (”Luka” makes me think of Vocaloid but the Luka there was female), or a name that relates a lot to the character (like “Aurore” for “aurora” since she loves weather things).

dfjbghfkdgfdgnjfdg this anon really like, “I NEED ANSWERS!!!”

It’s as if these characters hit 18 or something and just grow overnight, I swear. I’m hypothetically fine with some more variety in character height (it’s not like the show tries to be realistic, after all), but maybe don’t give us official heights if they’re gonna be this weird/inaccurate.

Especially when they change it just for the sake of a shot anyway. If you watch “Simon Says” when Ladybug and Adrien stand next to each other while looking at the picture of Adrien’s mother, the very next close-up has an obvious difference in their heights from what you just saw.

They’re 3D models!!! This shouldn’t happen!

I... honestly never thought of the “less threatening” thing! Dang!

And yeah, Marinette isn’t helpless or incompetent, but because of the Adrien crush, it makes her that way at times since she’s always falling on him and--

...ugh, actually, yeah, don’t wanna think about those implications. Hard pass.

Gross.

I’m not familiar with that one, though Astruc deletes his tweets all the time (there was one tweet where he confirmed that Luka was poor and it only exists in screenshots now because it didn’t get archived and he deleted it almost like he realized that he was pointing out the blatant classism in the show, oops).

Yeah though, I haven’t seen anything like what you’re describing. Sorry!

It’s okay! Sorry for having you clarify but him choosing and Marinette deciding to never give it back are very different things.

I don’t recall Chat Noir having much purpose in the final fight (in terms of both contributing and actual fighting; I know Cataclysm broke the object to release the akuma but was it needed?) so Marinette might either go cat-less or get a temp. Plagg could also be helpful in his own right because he’s small and blends in with the night, so he could hypothetically sneak up on the bad guy.

Afterwards, there’d need to be a new cat, but Adrien would also have to reconsider his actions and really think about what happened. I could also see Plagg going to Adrien’s house, half to apologize for giving the idea to Adrien that Adrien leave without telling Ladybug, but also half to call him out for giving up without consulting anyone. Adrien is a lot of conflicting things (see Adrien’s passivity compared to Chat Noir’s recklessness) so he’d have to find a middle ground within himself.

Marinette might carry Plagg around in her purse for a while and let Plagg have a say in who he goes to. Plagg might grieve for a bit over not having Adrien around (even if Adrien was flawed, Plagg didn’t ask for any of this so Marinette is doing her best here).

O-oh.

That’s always the rough patch with “endgame ships.”  Once it’s obvious to the audience that they’re endgame, no more effort needs to be put into them.

The other thing too is how Kagami, for example, is friends with Marinette. Even once Adrimi sinks, she’ll presumably stay friends with her. Luka, meanwhile, is Juleka’s brother.

They have lives outside of their love interests. Adrien is so into Ladybug that he doesn’t have that; I mean, Nino is Adrien’s best friend like once in a blue moon.

The entire class is just watching an episode and then calling on raised hands to answer what was wrong with what they just watched.

“Everything?”

“I mean, yes, but I’m sorry, you have to be more specific to get credit.”

I think Aeon herself is fine. It’s mostly just her transformed and that transformed name that I have a problem with (she doesn’t even look uncanny so I don’t get it). I heard there was something wrong with the name “Aeon” but searching the name doesn’t give me anything I would qualify as such so I have no idea. I just wish she was given a little less “I’m programmed to--” (makes her seem less sentient) and more “[anything that doesn’t have to do with pushing the love square]” because I feel like they might’ve done the latter to make her more “likable”? I think fans of anything usually like the “matchmaker” character provided it’s for a ship they like. Also strange that they make her a robot but Max and Markov don’t extensively interact with her, but that’s a nitpick and not a criticism of her character.

...I’m rambling, my bad lol.

(Ohhh, she was supposed to be a mummy? Like, foreshadowing her “dying”?? That went right over my head but I guess that’d be where the name Uncanny Valley came from? No clue.)

Best case scenario is probably the middle or the end of Season 4.

And yeah, it really doesn’t matter to me what they do with the love square. Marinette had gone through too much suffering and the show goes out of its way to show how much stress Marinette is being put under (and also keeping Luka away during episodes like “Gamer 2.0″ even when it makes sense for them to be there, as if trying to make sure Marinette doesn’t have enough moments with him to forget Adrien).

Like, ah, yes, I totally believe that Marinette is in a position where she can make reasonable decisions about her love life while all circles of her life are on fire.

If the Sonic movie of all things can have an interracial couple, there’s no reason why this show can’t, just saying.

And, even with Marinette, she’s white-passing (according to what basically everyone says, I’m really awful about recognizing race so this isn’t my field; I wasn’t aware that Ondine was Asian, for example).

Does Nadja count? Manon’s dark-skinned (I’m still not over the fact that all the kids in this show are dark-skinned; it’s not like it’s a problem from a representation standpoint - though all the kids are also all generically bratty/whiny so there’s that - but the percentages in this show are weird) while Nadja is really light-skinned, meaning either a dark-skinned husband or Manon is adopted.

Though I guess the problem then is that we don’t know, so there’s no established couple there.

Non-Miraculous Asks:

w-who gave you the right to say such things????

Uhhhh, that might be too broad of a question, I’m sorry!

I know this isn’t satisfactory, but I will say that my favorite genre is Fantasy/Romance (it’s why I adore Red Shoes so much; by the way, an anon asked for my opinion on that a while back and I will get to it! I’d need to watch it again to get screenshots) and my least favorite is probably Tragedy/Horror.

I don’t think I’ve watched enough to really be able to say? I’ve kind of been all over but I’ve never fully gone through any of them outside of Miraculous. I’ve seen bits of Sailor Moon, Tokyo Mew Mew, Star VS the Forces of Evil (don’t know if that counts), and I meant to watch Yuki Yuna is a Hero but never got around to it. I saw the entirety of Puella Magi Madoka Magica but you guys know how I feel about that one.

Maybe Cardcaptor Sakura by default then? It was definitely not perfect but I liked some of the character dynamics (I also have a clipcut of it - basically where I go through a series/movie and cut out parts I don’t like so it’s only good stuff - so I’m cheating a little) and the male love interest was a tsundere type that I actually ended up liking, which is really rare.

!!! That sounds sweet~ I know Sailor Moon is popular so I’ll definitely take your word for it on that one.

I would also accept a “reincarnated”/”destined lovers” trope if maybe the ship themselves are the one who set it up in the first place. I have a Lukanette AU, for example, where they basically got together and then prayed to the shrine of the renewal god that they’d “always be together,” which ended up allowing them to reincarnate over and over (as if they set up their own soulmate AU ;P) and continuously find each other.

Though I guess that’s not technically a “meant to be trope,” but still, it’s a form of it but where it was totally consensual on both sides.

Also, I finally thought of a show that ended with the ship I wanted: Gargoyles. I didn’t see the entire series, mind you, but I saw most of it and Goliath and Elisa were just... quality, I adored them.

+ With Beauty and the Beast being my favorite Disney movie, they fit right in with my tastes.

I forget that AangToph (I think the “official” name for the ship is Taang, but don’t quote me on that) exists sometimes, maybe because I’ve never shipped Aang with anyone; I’ve got no problems with the ship though.

Ugh, and this is what I mean when I talk about people who set up these reasons behind people shipping something based on what they saw a few people do. It’s like, “you only ship Adrimi/Lukanette to spite Adrienette!!”

Meanwhile, me having shipped all three at one point and then dropped off the love square.

Also, me shipping Zutara has nothing to do with it being dark/edgy because I’ve never seen it that way (intriguing, sure but dark and edgy? lol) and also avoid dark/edgy ships like the plague.

I still laugh at people who are like, “you can’t ship it because it’s not endgaaaaame!” as if shows can dictate how and why I enjoy something. Like sure, if you want to let a show/movie spoonfeed you how you’re supposed to feel, then by all means, go ahead.

I suppose people may be theoretically happier that way, but it doesn’t make for an analytic mind.

I legitimately thought that “AssClass” must’ve been the actual name for something until it registered with me what it actually meant.

And eh, I guess it depends on the comparison and how accurate the comparison actually is? Like, comparing Puella Magic Madoka Magica to Miraculous... they’re not really close at all, but comparing... idk, Bunnyx to Homura or the concept behind “backfiring wishes”... maybe?

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(note that the rest of this post is more Puella Magi Madoka Magica salt so you can stop reading here if you’re not interested in that; I’m not sure if this is all the same anon but I don’t mind letting people vent so I let them go off~)

why can’t we just have nice things

I agree, and I give a little eyeroll every time it’s like, “oh, this person had [miraculous]”

+ even just in general, I feel weird about any show that mentions/implies that real world famous people are [x] or [y] in their show. It breaks my immersion; real world locations are one thing but when it’s specific people (unless they’re made up characters like Santa Claus) or games just--break me.

I also don’t know what to think when there aren’t magical boys but you have these magical girls in this frilly outfits/skirts. The demographic is girls so I presume the reason must be like, “you can look pretty and still beat people up” (;P) but having so many magical girl shows without a hint of a magical boy makes me suspicious that it’s for fanservice. Sailor Moon has Tuxedo Mask but I also don’t know what that guy did outside of the meme of him doing nothing so I’ve got no clue.

(edit: I should correct myself that I’m not talking about Sailor Moon specifically; I don’t know magical girls that well, though I do know there are ones clearly intended for fanservice (you could say that for anything, to be fair, but still). It’s just that I see things like super short skirts or very “questionable” shots and I’m just like, “hm”)

Hmmm, good question. I feel like there has to be a lot but I’m also the type who doesn’t watch a lot of TV lol. I’m just familiar with cliches and tropes and such.

The reason I try not to use “ism”s of any kind is mostly because it’s too broad. Like, you know how the English language only has one way of saying, “I love you,” but other languages like Spanish have multiple?

It’s like that, and sometimes I think it’s too easy to throw those words out there. A “small” (possibly completely unintentional/misunderstood) offense is sexism, and then a “large” offense is called the exact same thing. I’d rather go into why something is sexist than just call it that, y’know? The only exception I make is “classism” because I feel like that’s not as... I dunno, divisive?

Anyway, for that same reason, I can’t answer firmly that, “Madoka Magica is sexist.” I will however say that it makes me uncomfortable with how the show makes out the girls being emotional because they’re young and female and then proceeds to make their life a living hell before they’re old enough to properly answer to it (I know that’s the point but that kind of makes it worse?). It doesn’t help with how all the girls have different personalities, so it’s not like you have only “crybaby girls” who are being taken advantage of; it’s basically like... all girls.

Not helped is the fact that their soul gem not only deteriorates naturally, but it can also do so faster if the girl falls into despair, which then turns them into a monster (and I know it’s kind of like an akuma thing, but the fact that it’s only girls is... I dunno, it comes off wrong?). It seems cheap that the soul gem deteriorates no matter what so it constantly needs fed even if the girl is consistently happy.

I would probably opt for the show being centered more around Kyubey being new to this or something - like, magical girls are a new thing - and then have Kyubey being surprised because they presumed that the soul gem would deteriorate naturally since “emotions are powerful but destructive to the person having them,” but then all the girls team up and help each other work out their problems. Maybe the reason magical girls are usually alone isn’t even because of the grief seed (I think that’s what it’s called?) thing not being able to be shared, but because Kyubey intentionally separates magical girls so they can’t do what the main group is doing, but Madoka is so into the idea that, “We shouldn’t have to be alone,” and so she’s constantly pulling all the girls together, which keeps them healthy.

Maybe Homura’s backstory could be that Madoka originally was more sheepish and more afraid to put herself out there, especially since she was a magical girl (who are encouraged to go it alone), which is why their soul gems were both deteriorating; they were friends but kept more of a distance, or maybe they were a team but that’s all they were. Then Madoka gives Homura the last grief seed to save her and that’s what inspires Homura and makes her see Madoka as something more than a teammate, which is why Homura actively tries to save Madoka specifically (which then encourages Madoka to want to keep everyone together as friends).

In the case that Kyubey doesn’t separate them out of concern of fRiEnDsHiP, but for another reason altogether, and then it’s ultimately their own downfall when they allow the girls to hang out and realize that it’s doing a lot of good for them.

“cute and innocent”

That was exactly it. It’s on Kyubey’s trivia section on the Puella Magi Madoka Magica Wiki.

Before the anime's first dark plot twist aired, head writer Gen Urobuchi said on his Twitter account that the "Kyu" in Kyubey's name comes from the English word "cute". This was a lie meant to further mislead fans into thinking that Madoka Magica is an innocent happy show. In a later episode, it was revealed that "Kyubey" is, in fact, short for "incubator".

In my personal opinion, a spoiled plot can’t be “ruined” if it’s a good plot. If you told me that Kagome was trapped in the Modern era for three years and then decided to stay with Inuyasha at the end of Inuyasha, it wouldn’t/shouldn’t decrease the value when I finally see it for myself because it’s good. That’s not to say that everything should just be spoiled right out of the gate, but it’s saying that maybe your plot isn’t good if you have to rely on shock value to make it work??

I FEEL THAT “ASSIGNING IT TO THE WHOLE GENDER” THING SO BAD. It just adds to my “the girls all have varying personalities so it’s not like Kyubey’s only after emotional crybabies or anything” salt.

I have no idea about any of the stuff about the writers so I can’t confirm or deny them. I will very much agree on the target audience thing though, especially with the whole “keeping the dark plot a secret” because really? Who is this for then? Like, the first two and a half episodes are for one demographic and then the others are--???

I dunno. Me personally, I just like feel good stories. I do like some good conflict and drama (for context, Remarried Empress is basically a webtoon that gives you things to feel salty about and then makes its own salt fic as its plot, allowing for endless streams of feels and catharsis, so I’m definitely not against drama), but there are other times where I just want to feel good watching something.

I feel like the show expects the characters to be selfless/perfect and then punishes them even though it’s their writing that’s causing them to act out. I can’t really talking about “out-of-character” but sometimes it’s just obvious where “we did this because we needed a plot/conflict.”

Like, hello? We don’t need the main characters screwing up; why can’t we just have some feel good thing where they take the day for themselves (seriously, imagine a Miraculous episode where Chat Noir actually tells Ladybug to take a couple days for herself, like maybe someone else gets the earrings for a few days as a temp while Marinette gets to breathe; IMAGINE IT). Not everything needs to be high-stakes to be interesting and you need those calmer moments so that the action-packed ones feel more intense.

SAYAKA DESERVES BETTER.

I feel like the magical girl genre as a whole can be way more complex than it’s made out to be. I think people hear the word “magical girl” and think “cute girls in short skirts talk about girl problems and fight evil with the power of friendship and accessories.”

Ugh, just the mention of Rebellion makes me sigh internally.

Congrats on working on your own magical girl story! I hope it goes well for you!

I know it’s not technically a magical girl show, but there was also Totally Spies that Astruc worked on to some degree (I think there was some characters who were based on/a loose reference to the mains from that show but I don’t remember exactly).

The thing about the female characters suffering is that they could make for good lessons on positively directing one’s emotions (like Usagi from Sailor Moon, for example, maybe having a problem with taking her anger out on her friends, but learns that she can save that rage for the bad guys; “Gamer 2.0″ from Miraculous could’ve done that, honestly, by having Ladybug absolutely WRECK all of her gaming opponents in “violent” (cartoon violence obviously) fashion). It’s just a shame that it’s not taken advantage of.

Sayaka??? Selfish???????

*does not compute*

(Also, I wasn’t tired of them, don’t worry! It was a little overwhelming in my inbox but it’s me who’s allowing all the asks to flow in so the blame isn’t on you lol.)

I’m not sure where this obsession came from with, “you have to be selfless and you’re not allowed to use your powers for yourself.” It’s like the world’s going to end if a character leaves to go Self-Care or something. I think what happened is that shows got this idea that promoting only the giving of others is great and it’s not important to take time for yourself (even with “Gamer 2.0,” it was still Marinette playing games with everyone else, and they treated her dedication and seriousness like a bad thing when she literally did not have time to waste and they didn’t give a reason why it was good for her to take a break, only that she should).

This usually leads to the “demonization” of characters who sport a lot of self-confidence or any sort of ego. It works on both sides; Marinette is a punching bag because of her anxiety and occasional lack of confidence, but if she had an ego as Ladybug, there are parts of the fandom who deem her “obnoxious” (i.e: “Reflekdoll”). There’s a delicate balance between “be confident” and “be humble” and it’s a tightrope act.

[spartanxhunterx]

Bug and Shell(d) season one.

After hours of going through all the episodes of Miraculous Ladybug on the wiki I believe I have come up with a good story line for this AU, it will primarily focus on the changes between the Canon episodes and this AU.

Not all of the episodes will be used as I find some are unnecessary or unneeded but at the same time the AU itself and several changes remove episodes entirely and/or require changes, so don't be surprised or annoyed if certain episodes don't get written.

At a later date I may reveal which episodes won't be used and why but not now as it could lead to spoilers.

Origins: part 1

Origins: part 2

Lady Wifi

Bubble Boy (aka the bubbler)

Dark Cupid

Horrificator

Timebreaker

Rogercop

Anti-bug

Kung food

L' Imposteur (aka copycat)

Animan

Stormy weather

Evillustrator

The pupperteer

Befana

Simon says

Volpina

[cosmicfelines]

I swear y'all my brain makes the most out of the blue crossovers out of nothing, with the Bel'veth reveal and Miraculous ladybug season 4 ending my brain just said "hmmm 🤔 Hawkmoth and the void both use purple" and BAM! New crossover and plot

Disclaimer: Just so you know! I don't approve of Canon!Gabriel actions nor does his grief makes him justified in anything he does. I get what the writers where trying to do with his character (some kind sympathetic villain like Mr. Freeze but less successful) but as always the writing of this show leaves much to be desired, as always with most things I like the concept but not the execution and Gabriel is not the exception. I actually like Gabriel's character, I want him to have a redemption arc, but as always with this show and with Clownstruc in charge all good ideas and potential is thrown out the window. I'm always looking for fans rewrits and redesign of Miraculous ladybug specially Hawkmoth/Gabriel. So as with most fandoms I have decided to divorce canon and go with my headcanons

Of you don't know what is the League of Legends Void I recommend watching Necrit's video on Runeterra or the wiki, but to keep it short The Void is a parallel dimension that is the anti-thesis of reality. It's full of nothingness except for this eldritch god-like beings called The Watchers they were in eternal blissful sleep until a rip in reality allowed a window to the Universe where the planet of Runeterra resided woke them up, they suddenly where conscious of their own existence and all the noise and light of the universe, they didn't like it. So their whole plan is to destroy the Runeterran Universe so they can go back to sleep, send Voidborn and Voidspawn to the Universe as their scouts to collect information on this new reality, and open bigger Void rifts so they can pass through and destroy everything.

So the basic premise was (before the S5 episodes leaks, monarch design preview and the first episode evolution) that a void rift opened up in Paris, maybe it was just a random occurrence, an incursion of The Watchers, or maybe when Hawkmoth used all the Miraculous together during a battle he opened a Void rift, just like the Icathians did.

The Voidborn begin to come through and lay waste to everything and everyone. LB mad CN think this is Hawkmoth's Akumas but they're wrong and the three can feel the kwamis fear through the connection. The magic of the Miraculous can barely damage the Voidlings, people are dying and the Miraculous ladybug doesn't have a clear answer and it wouldn't be able to fix anything or bring anyone back since this is not an Akuma or a threat of this world, it's an otherness and the only thing protecting their minds and bodies form the world is the magic on the suits. They're getting desperate and I'm moment of clarity Hawkmoth understands what must be done...

Someone has to get close to the rift, lure as many Voidspawn as they can and make it implode on itself to close it, taking as much Voidlings as they can with it. Problems is that it's a one way trip, if the Voidborn or implosions don't take you then whatever is on the other side of the portal surely will.

Gabriel steels himself and tells Ladybug and Chat Noir his plan, but only the luring the Voidspawn to the portal and closing it part, they're getting desperate and it's the only plan they have so they agree, Hawkmoth lies to reassures them saying that the three of them will take out whatever Void creature remains after the implosions takes must of them, Hawkmoth flies to the portal (the Miraculous gives him wings in my headcanon) luring the hundreds of tiny Voidlings with light and the magic of the Miraculous, does a few circles to make sure all are following him.. and dives straight through the portal.

It works all the Voidlings follow him through the portal, there's light shining from it where previously there was only overwhelming darkness with tints of ominous purple light. Gabriel on the other side keeps flying in circles on the other side seeing millions of void creatures, every single one following him like moths to a flame trying to catch him instead of going through the portal. He prepares the necessary magic to close the rift from his side and in a fast dive with the Voidlings following closely behind he gets close to the rift and a explosion occurs.

The Voidlings recoil and burn in agony all being obliterated, the rift is closing, and Gabriel is badly hurt despite the protection of the suit, with one last thought he takes off the Miraculous and throws it through the rift just before it closes, leaving him in darkness and with nothing but the carcasses of the dead Voidspawn, and he passes out from his injuries.

That's the first part of everything but eventually after many years of wandering and surviving Gabriel, who is now a Void touched full with purple exoskeleton and butterfly wings (oh the irony), finds his way out of the dimension he is in (is not the void, no human would be able to survive there, it's a dimension between dimensions that touches closely with the void), he appears in Runeterra, underground closely to the giant void rift where Icathian once was, and from there he explores this new world he is in. maybe he encounters Viego he sees this reflection of himself and what he was becoming.

From this point I don't have a lot figured out, what I know is he will encounter Kassadin and helps him find his daughter (he misses Adrien terribly and there are not of other void touched around who are sane), they bond and fall in love, yes I'm shipping Gabriel with Kassadin in this possible fic. They find Kai'Sa after here encounter with Bel'veth and travel Runeterra looking for help against the void.

Much much later he will return to his world to warn and help them against the void, along with his new boyfriend and stepdaughter, but those are mostly vague ideas.

Tell me what you think and hey if you wanna write it tell me and I'll help you :D.

[ml-typhonverse]

Opening

Hi everyone, call me SimplyUnknown. This is my first time making a blog like this, and I wanted to clarify just what this blog will be about. As some of you probably can guess from the tags and the ml in the header, this blog will mainly be discussing the world of the TV show Miraculous Ladybug. I’d like to start by stating that I know that there’s a lot of drama going on in the fandom about the show in regards to...a lot of things. I’m aware of it, and this blog won’t be a part of it. If you ship the love square, fine. If you’re a fan of Lukanette or Adrimi, cool. Salter, anti-salter, fine. Because this blog isn’t made to talk about the show or most of the characters.

This blog is for something new entirely.

The Typhonverse is a universe that I’m hoping to build and turn into a story hopefully soonish. I’ll be finishing up a personal project in the coming months and this particular idea has been nagging at me for a few weeks. You see, I’m not really a fan of the show. Most of what I know about the show comes from zoe-oneesama and her Scarlet Lady blog (check it out if you haven’t already, her story-telling is amazing!), or the miraculous content blog with her LadyBugOut AU (follow if you love Lukanette, stay away if you like the lovesquare). There are plenty of people more qualified to talk about the show than me.

For me personally, the show isn’t what draws me in. It’s the lore of the world. The idea of the kwamis and how they can give people superpowers and how the wielders can act as heroes or villains depending on their choices is fascinating to me! But I’m not interested in rewriting the current ML show (I have Scarlet Lady) or dissecting and analyzing the show either (miraculous content is far more skilled than I am). So what I want to do is create a new personal universe for me to play with, which will take place far away from Paris and the majority of the current cast.

And that’s where this blog comes in. As I don’t watch the show and don’t entirely trust the wiki pages, I want to talk my ideas out here. Hopefully, some of you other fans of the show can point out where I might be going wrong with how a miraculous works or offer your own ideas as to how the story can grow. I have a decent idea of my main cast and where the story will be going, but I’m open to advice and ideas from you guys. Especially when it comes to the monsters I’ll be making.

Because this isn’t a tale of akumas wielded by a villainous Hawkmoth variant. There will be no Butterfly in this story, except maybe in a mention. No, this is the tale of what happens when the Peacock Miraculous is wielded alone, by a villain more vile and cruel than Gabriel Agreste. One who does not care for a pointless wish, but for what the Peacock can already give him.

This is the tale of the villain Typhon, father of monsters.

(First time using tumblr and tags like this; please let me know if I need to correct anything!)

[plumsaffron]

Psst! I hope you don’t mind me sharing some dark/maybe offensive jokes about the ML Salters and rabid dogs of the fandom! I couldn’t resist poking fun of them here! I may be a neutral person in fandom matters but I can criticize canon/fandom whenever I feel like it.

Too much salt? Hope y’all don’t get cardiac arrest later on!

Delusional behaviors? The asylums/mental hospitals are going to be overcrowded and make other patients look sane!

Wait, why are some of y’all bitching about Adrien? I don’t see similar personality male characters from other franchises get criticized as bad as him. Maybe y’all might be secret misandrists who’d rather have strong-willed men over “spineless weak-willed fools?”

Not satisfied with canon? Just go watch other series that don’t piss you off that much. Then maybe canon will slowly die out and we all can throw a party at the stupid show ending. It’s not that hard to lessen the attention of a badly written series when we could glaze better shows.

Are y’all a plague or something? Then go get cured bc naive new users are going to get infected by your lies and negativity!

Why are y’all so negative and hateful? Did y’all forgot other franchises/series’ existences that made you happier instead?

Why are y’all so obsessed with Lila getting hurt or killed? Did she actually remind you of a high school bully in RL or smth? You should take a chill pill after all.

Sheesh, the Lila haters make the Mineta haters look like saints bc at least I didn’t hear the latter driving ppl to off themselves over having different opinions!

It’s fine. I don’t mind.

The true nature of the unstable weak willed watchers/viewers/fandom should be known.

They find strange ways to transcend whatever they hate that occurs.

Or subserviently encouraging or absorbing the way of the true protagonist’s dangerous self endangering habits (ignoring the environment too or Hawk Moth’s terrorist playground or her and allies experiences clearly knowing how easy it is for Hawk Moth to get a victim and endanger everyone’s future).

It’s a big problem when people believe protagonist is the right path to be aligned to and the antagonist side is inherently invalid. It makes me wonder if other shows they watched or some groups of people or public figures, tricked them so badly into thinking protagonist is hero exclusive can’t be seen as doing any harm (even if it shows in their faces enough times the opposite).

Honestly, I’m unsure how one tricks themselves into believe Lila's a reminder of who they met in real life. Must be a bunch editing and cropping context to make her fit in their inserts because if they didn’t modify the context, it would mean either they started it and kept chasing after her, willing to do anything instead of leave her alone or avoid such irl enemy. Or the worst case, they are secretly the victim, Lila, but they think they were harmed by Lila but it was actually their aggressor, Marinette but they foam at the idea of their hero as doing wrong.

Then again I guess it’s not hard considering Haze Clarke deluded herself into believing Kagami bullied Marinette and reminds her of being bullied when in actuality it was Marinette seeing Kagami as a Lila replacement in her mind and attempting to put down Kagami.

Seems 1 + 0 = 2 in their minds.

But yeah, they do love being everything they hate it appears and they don’t care who gets harmed or affected despite seeing who has been harmed and affected.

[ekaeb]

Ugh, was just on the wiki for Miraculous Ladybug and I came across some anti-LGBTQ+ comments about characters who MAY be LGBTQ+ in the new Miraculous: New York special. It depresses me to see comments like those in 2020...

After seeing the special, I kind of was expecting it. It’s so frustrating, because there’s comfort in the thought that you just have to wait for all the old bigoted people to pass, but I highly doubt it’s older people going to the wiki. Maybe it is, maybe it’s not. I can only hope that the young who are poisoned by the minds of the past grow and find a kinder mindset that leads them to a better place. A lot of them wont, though, which is honestly just sad. 

[plumsaffron]

Sigh how many times shall I say this.

Lila Rossi did not get kicked out.

Literally she willingly dipped after Bustier called the rest of the students to help Mr Damocles.

In other words she could pop back in again if she felt like it.

This was after the Mayor No U to the principal that said Chloe and she are expelled.

He also noped them forged forums from being refilled out again.

Second of all. Her models tone are flat out the same (do you need to rewatch carefully or remember um various lights environments color correction are a thing? Do you need to re look up each all leaked or Lila models or Lila models). Episode(s) After contradict this thing of oh she’s lighter now or this oh she has fake tan.

Ayo I think London Special Proantagonist and ML Wiki writers/editors should hold hands.