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YES EXACTLY THANK YOU
Off on a little bit of a tangent, like, I hate the sort of thing when one or both of them absolutely hate each other's guts with exactly zero interest (not to say a good enemies to lovers arc can't be done, it's just there are some that are better than others) and everyone else (either in the universe or outside) just goes 'oh, you'll end up together, you're just misunderstanding each other'. Like... Maybe they are, but the point still stands that I SEE NO UNDERLYING INTEREST. THEY GENUINELY AREN'T INTO EACH OTHER
Going back to Leo and Calypso
Calypso's had her heart broken time and time again. I feel like she was just going through the motions by the time Percy came along and she definitely doesn't want a relationship when Leo shows up, although part of that is probably because she feels like the gods are just laughing at her by sending her this scrawny kid to fall in love with. She shouldn't have been shoved into a relationship with Leo in the first place, even when he showed up to get her off Ogygia. I feel like them getting together was a slapdash 'everyone needs a romantic partner' mixed with a good helping of the 'damsel in distress' trope, where the hero always gets the girl he saves
As for Leo, he hasn't had a stable life since he was eight. To put it in perspective, he has literally not had a home (a home, not a house) for half his life. And I'm not even gonna go into his insanely self-deprecating mindset that we get from his chapters. This boi needs therapy, not a relationship. I feel that he is looking for a relationship to 'fix' himself. After all, 'normal' guys have girlfriends, so if Leo gets a girlfriend, then he must be normal, right? (Although I am gonna point out that he didn't fall in love with Calypso bc she's pretty. He actually hated her for the first part bc she was actively a jerk to him. He learned his lesson from hitting on Khione)
So yeah, Caleo should've been platonic, I didn't talk about it but Jasiper should've been platonic (and I don't like Leo x Piper either) and forced romantic relationships in media suck
Imagine if Leo and Calypso didn't fall in love but instead just...talked? If they befriended each other? Because Calypso is eager to find someone to vent to and really, Leo needs to find someone to share his sorrows with,and who would understand his insecurities better than a girl who was left alon in Ogygia for so many years with every person she falls in love with having another whom they have to return to?
IMAGINE THE IMPACT ON THE READERS IF CALEO WAS PLATONIC, IF LEO WAS SAILING AWAY IN A BOAT HE BUILT PROMISING ON THE RIVER STYX HE WOULD COME BACK FOR CALYPSO BECAUSE SHE DESERVES BETTER AND IS HIS FRIEND, AND HE KNOWS FIRSTHAND WHAT IT'S LIKE BEING THE SECOND CHOICE AND SHE DESERVES, FOR ONCE, FOR SOMEONE TO LET HER OUT???THE PLATONIC IMPACT, THE MEANINGFULLNESS AND FRIENDSHIP OF THAT
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I just went into the tags to figure out what the Jason x Piper ship name and am for the first time realising that people don't like this ship?
Anyway during my reread this part stuck with me the most
That's exactly how you write a teenage boy falling in love.
And tbh, even if Jasper or Jasiper or whatever their ship name is isn't endgame, it's important to understand that during the entirety of TLH, both Jason and Piper learned a lot about trusting strangers with their lives together which is such an intimate form of showing faith in someone. It is obvious from Jason's narration, that even without his memories, he knows he will never look at the feeling and emotion of love the same way again after having met Piper.
And what's this about Piper "manipulating" Jason, GIRLIE LITERALLY BROUGHT HIM BACK TO LIFE WITH HER POWER!
Piper haters and antis really need to take a step back cuz yall dumb as hell.
#the lost hero#heroes of olympus#jason grace#piper mclean#jason x piper#jasiper#pjo#ayushitposting#of course i read the books almost 12 years ago so i never started shit#but trust me you cannot hate piper in my vicinity okay? okay.
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I know people can ship whatever they want but there’s something about seeing piper and jason still being paired together that automatically annoys me…. they’re not really a problematic couple I’m just being a hater, i’m sorry. I wish we knew more about shel so shelper would become the more popular canon piper ship instead
#i mean after the burning maze with jason dying and piper explaining a bit about why they broke up they’re still a popular ship?#if only being a bland and boring couple was problematic /j#anti jasiper#piper mclean#shelper#jason grace#hoo#shel x piper
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Ok, Let's see what the Anti Jasico people say:
You can't see the chemistry in Jasico, but I remind you that everyone got on the Solangelo train with 1 (one) interaction and Jasico has 2 great interactions.
Leaving Nico in the jar...Ok, that sucked, but put yourself in Jason's position for a moment. He needed to do what he thought was best and rescuing Nico was dangerous because Nico was "supposedly" evil/morally evil|doubtful.
And why does Jason think that? Because PERCY. And we know why Nico did what he did but, hello? Percy too! He doesn't know that Nico has a crush on him, but walking away from Percy for not saving Bianca is understandable! And he was fooled into thinking that he was evil, with what? 12~13 years? And in the end Nico saves practically the entire battle.
Well my point is that Jason only knows Nico's information from Percy, so he decided what he thought was best.
Also, if people can like Percabeth with how degrading and NOT romantic is "Seaweed Head" and the backflip is, if people can like Jasiper when it's a pretty one-sided couple, if people can like Caleo when it is a very forced and very fast maked ship, if people can like SOLANGELO...Well, I can like Jasico.
Jason is 16, not 17! And Nico is 14! Two years are nothing. Also Will is 15!
Well, whatever, next:
Oh, yeah, I remember when Nico or/and Jason thought about the other like a brother.
That was...When?...Never?!
If you like platonic Jasico is ok but they aren't brothers!
Remind me of when Jason was in love with Piper or do something actively romantic towards her, OTHER than the kiss at the end of HoO because that meant something only for Piper.
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the more i think about jasiper the more weirded out i get like. if i woke up without any memories and someone told me we were dating i'd be at the very least worried? suspicious? and then afterwards when piper finds out all of the memories they have together are fake??? how would you not want to break up on the spot? idk man
#i don't Hate jasiper but it was so weirdddd#if they broke up got to know each other and decided to get back together again that make more sense ??#idk i just find it very hard that anyone would stay in a relationship where they don't even remember meeting the person#or if they found out all their memories together are fake#anti jasiper#i guess??#like i said i don't think they're that bad but the way their relationship started....no.#i mean they did break up after a while but it took so long ?#anyway i'm rambling#that would make more sense* i can't type
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honestly i forget that jason and piper were ever a thing. what did they even talk about.
#like i KNOW it was just rick pairing everyone off#i was looking through my jasper tag and it just looks so... foreign to me#like that just isn't actually canon is it? lmao#anti hoo#kimi.txt#jasiper#jasper
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the liperheads might be losing the campaign.. for now.
calypso - no, for obvious reasons. but yes, as long as one of the two (or both) get to die at some point in a tragic accident.
shel - “so the question is whether or not im rooting for the romantic coupling of my girlfriend and some guy i don’t know? and it’s not the dead one right?”
grover - no. annabeth influences him.
thalia - no. annabeth influences her. (additionally loves being a hater)
rachel - yes. but she still takes fifteen minutes to explain how gemini and cancer relationships can be a little mismatched.
apollo - “now why am I in it”
aphrodite - big NO. she already had her fun with jasiper. it’s just not in her cards. also shes anti hephaestus x aphrodite kids (only 1 exception to that before and look what happened).
hephaestus - says yes, but actually doesn’t give a shit and doesn’t even remember who piper is.
tristan - yes. anything to make piper happy.
jason in elysium - yes. he would have liked badly to be their third in another life.
hera - no.
im sorry for dragging this joke out but idc it’s still funny to me so here’s some characters and if they’re on team liper or not
annabeth - #1 liper anti. if liper has 0 haters she’s dead.
percy - no. supports his gf.
frank - no. he’d be yes if you explained it to him in detail (he thinks this is a political question) but for now, no.
hazel - yes of course. “growing up in the 1940s was a difficult time for mixed couples like that and im so devastated you all have such bigoted hearts!” “oh that’s not—”
nico - no. he’d actually say yes but he’s siding with the majority because it’s funny.
will - no. not his business anyway.
coach hedge - conflicted about it. has to go to the seaside and think on it for a day.
mellie - yes. those are her babies.
reyna - “no comment” (she also thinks this is a political question)
jason’s cremated ashes - unresponsive.
piper - doesn’t answer. she charmspeaks you off a cliff.
leo - if you ask him if he’s on team liper he’s going to make a sad face and lock himself in bunker nine for 48 hours. please don’t ask him ever again.
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i saw someone say that "characters can just be friends" and i honestly agree. uncle rick forces too many relationships in heroes of olympus and it honestly kinda annoys me. i wish he focused more on their friendship instead since the story is supposed to be a family-found trope
jasiper? should've stayed as friends first. they were soulmates, they could've worked if they didn't rush their relationship. i'm not saying that couples who rush their relationship wouldn't work, but i felt like they still needed more time to get to know each other first.
frazel? could've gone slower. them already dating by mark of athena was just too fast in my opinion, but i'm happy that their relationship is super healthy tho.
luke and annabeth? i know they didn't date but them just having romantic feelings for each other was so unnecessary. if annabeth acted the same way she did but only because she sees luke as an older brother figure then it would've been better, and luke having feelings for annabeth other than being the family he never had was also weird idk.
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🪨the HoO couples(Percabeth, Jasper, Frazel)
ooh here we go
percabeth- i’m an og percabeth stan but their dynamic in hoo was slightly..off. they seemed 100% absorbed in themselves which makes for great ship content and loyalty dynamics but you would think that entering another war and being divinely separated for 8 months might take a greater toll on their relationship?? part of this may be the rr ghostwriter speculations but i think that hoo should have focused on annabeth more outside of moa, letting percy take side stage after being the whole child of the prophecy, etc etc (considering the fact that if you removed him from the whole series besides obvious son of neptune plot patching the series wouldn't change a bit) oh and this is not in any way anti percabeth frankly i’m not ready to open y’alls can of worms
jasiper- i said this before but they had such potential!! the roman child soldier and greek newbie, the jupiter/aphrodite juxtaposition of power and love that wasn’t explored...i like them but didn’t like how they were written in canon
frazel- ugh we’ve gotten into this but frazel was so unnecessary considering hazel’s age.. if she was 16 or 15 like the rest of them i honestly wouldn’t have much problem with it and might even like it because their personalities are compatible in my eyes! but the fact that from the jump she was shoved into that relationship by rick is so gross because frazel subtext was in son of neptune from the very start while she was being described as 13?? just really weird even though i don’t like how everyone was paired up, if she was older i would be behind it.
#grace tag#riordanverse#ask tag#leah hits 100!#percabeth#jasiper#frazel#anti frazel#rr crit#hoo crit
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NWFSFNSNF I JUST RMEBERED THAT ONE FANART OF JASON AND PIPER DRESSED AS POCAHONTAS AND JOHN SMITH 😬🤪 WTF
the worst part is that i believe it because pjo is so disgusting. wwii au's, conversion therapy's, writing racist characters to villify them like there aren't other things... shitting on rick is super obvious and really shouldn't be debatable at this point, but the fandom is reading his work and thinking it's okay, and will write and draw the most harmful things without sitting back and criticising themselves. gross
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So I've been seeing a lot of anti posts and after shedding a few tears for my babies I'm taking action
Rules of tumblr and all that :
Rule Number one: if you don't like something, simply scroll past it. There's no need to broadcast your hate.
Rule Number two: you are not allowed to call a ship 'toxic' just because you don't like it
Rule Number three : fucking stop anti-ing things. We want to love our favourite characters and ships without being judged for it
Rule Number four: be nice to other users and don't start an argument unless completely necessary (for example if the other person is being homophobic or racist)
Rule Number five: do not judge anyone's artwork and that's including headcanons, textposts, drabbles, fics and more cause those are works of art and I pity you if you can't see that.
Rule Number six: do not send anon hate or any type of hate at all. Ever.
Rule Number seven: do not repost anything without credit and/or permission from the owner
Rule Number eight: if you don't have anything nice to say, don't fucking say anything at all
Rule Number nine: if you dislike something saying it just once is enough. Again, no need to broadcast your hate
Rule Number ten: did I mention to stop anti-ing cause it hurts people?
#drarry#hp#harry potter#percy jackson and the heroes of olympus#percy jackson#percabeth#tododeku#bnha#anti antis#linny#wolfstar#jily#romione#scorbus#flintwood#caleo#frazel#jasiper#klance#voltron#solangelo#lgbtq#marvel#ironstrange#stucky#sherlock holmes#sherlock#johnlock#magnus chase#beatrice
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Can you believe that Rickalds ultimate solution to solving deep issues a multi layered character has is either making them buff, shoving them into the Hunters of Artemis or giving them a boyfriend/girlfriend that supposedly solves
Everything
Even though most of the relationships are full of harmful issues, age gaps and stereotypes that make them seem predatory?
And yet he is praised for diversity and lets himself be called "Uncle" and whatnot "He tried" stfu
#I am very bitter about Caleo#Solangelo#Jasiper#Frazel#not to mention#that all these characters are between 13 and 17 you don't NEED a relationship anyway#solving these deep mental issues and multi layered trauma some of these characters by showing some kind of realization?#Showing that there's a path to health?#Rick surely never heard of it#Seriously don't just Punch two characters together because you want their character development solved#anti rick riordan#rr crit
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I am
In Percy Jackson
100% Percabeth
100% Jasiper
100% Frazel
100% Caleo
100% Solangelo
100% Fierrochase
100% Sally x Paul
0% Theyna
#percy jackson and the olympians#heroes of olympus#magnus chase and the gods of asgard#percabeth#jasiper#frazel#caleo#solangelo#fierrochase#sally x paul#anti theyna
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riordan: shit i have to break up a couple to make it more realistic
riordan: caleo?? ehhh idk i wrote them in 2 days cos i forgot her and i pair every single moving thing in this series
riordan: oh wait i’ll kill JASPER because i hate jason grace
#jason grace#percy jackson#piper mclean#hoo#anti caleo#the burning maze spoilers#the burning maze#jasper#jiper#jasiper#CAN WE SETTLE ON A SHIP NAME FOR THESE ADORB FUCKERS#also this is legit how it happened dont deny#they make NO SENSE whatsoever im fuming#when WILL RIORDAN STOP
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Jason being in love with Piper >>>>>> turning Jason’s caring for Nico into some kind of bullshit crush.
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