#anti fitzsimmons

[azurecanary]

"Daisy was a bad director"

Well if i had to deal with FuckShit's tomfoolery in Season 5b, i would've actually destroyed the world

[nowifi-noconnection]

bobbi and hunter>>>>>>>>>>>> fitzsimmons

[competitivedust]

So another thought came to me about Agents of Shield. I think we all have seen comments about how annoying Daisy was when she ordered Deke to off Freddie Malick to prevent all the horrors he would cause in the future. And yes, it's a bad decision to kill him right then. Without Hydra there won't be a shield, and chronicoms would easily take over the Earth. I have seen this opinion expressed hundreds of times. Calling Daisy too emotional, too stupid etc etc.

Compare this to how these people never mention how Fitz thought it'd be a good idea to repair the gravitonium machine to save Simmons. As if that isn't an asinine fucking decision. Is Fitz not super emotional in this scene? Is he not being illogical and stupid? Or all those words only reserved for female characters you don't like?

[samanthaswishes]

I'm bitter over the series finale bullshit plan again.

F!tz' says, "I need to tell you what we're fighting for, so we can map out a plan together and be willing to do what needs to be done, no matter what the cost."

But knowing what happens, he is basically telling them, "Me and Jemma can't risk our lives, so the rest of you have to, and it doesn't matter if you die or not."

And they were just... okay with that??? I hate the fact that they both, mostly F!tz, make plans that bank on other people on the team, particularly Daisy most of the time, to put themselves in harm's way so they may be safe, and this was even before the existence of Alya. He's basically telling them, not asking, to die for them if it comes to it (And it did which is why I bring up Daisy).

They treat others as if their entire livelihoods aren't as important or valuable. Yes, a lot of the time, the team, especially Daisy, are more than willing to put their lives on the line for the people they care about, but when they don't reciprocate it for people who have done it for them time and time again, it's sad and disgusting.

[emilyskinners]

maybe it's just me. or I just always hate when a guy is so pathetic about a girl who just Doesn't like him like that and he keeps kind of pushing in a way or have someone make her feel guilty for not feeling the same until she reciprocates and I hate it, actually. stop making women fall for men that they Explicitly didn't like in that way (yeah, they can grow to have feelings for them later, but in the moment they don't). like she does not want you like that, fuck OFF and move ON, it is pathetic and not in a fun way

[piperslovebot]

Jeia is what F*tzsimmons wishes it could be

[moonlayl]

one day soon, I'm gonna rewatch all of agents of shield (for the first time ever) and I'm gonna take note of how many conversations daisy and jemma have had over the seasons and how many of them weren’t about Fitz.

[analyticallymindedaa]

y'know what no, i'll never not be angry at how they "dealt with" jemma's trauma in 3a and turned it into a pity party for fitz bc the girl he liked was in love with someone else and having him make significant romantic advances when she's most emotionally vulnerable

[firelily-mermaid-jedi]

I love Fitz. I love Simmons. I don't love FitzSimmons.

Since I'm in a ugh mcu mood, another hot take: Fitzsimmons should've remained friends.

[azurecanary]

If i had a nickel for every show starring a character(s) of colour who were powerful, badass and well written; but are constantly shit on to prop up the white "morally grey" characters who have rushed and/or contradictory development up to and including their ships; I'd have three nickels.

That's it. That's the joke. No "which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened thrice". Cause when it happens that many times, it stops being surprising.

It happened with Scott McCall, it happened with Daisy Johnson, why wouldn't it happen with Alina Starkov and Mal Oretsev?

[nowifi-noconnection]

“I can’t think without fitz” jemma please for the love of god STAND UP

[competitivedust]

The ease with which Daisy falls for Sousa is a very blatant in-universe indicator of how badly she had been treated by her "family" prior to meeting him. She was so unaccustomed to actually being treated with care that it completely floored her. Of course this doesn't intend to downplay Sousa's feelings about her, but I believe that Sousa is just decent enough to care about people whether or not he is romantically interested in them. The fact that he was attracted to Daisy was just an added bonus. Before this she has always been forced to give up a part of herself, her dignity, to feel that she was worth something to certain members of the team. It's downright horrible how easily she jumps in to save FitzSimmons with no regard for her own physical or mental health. And FitzSimmons repeatedly exploited her abandonment issues because they knew she would do anything to keep them safe and together, to remain important to them. Which she did. Sousa is probably one of very few people who wanted her to take a step back, to give herself time, and to treat herself kindly. Of course there are others in the list, but those others also kept quiet as FitzSimmons used her again and again.

[competitivedust]

We are picking sides because the writers picked a side too when they had FitzSimmons and Deke act like colossal assholes to Daisy after the incident. Let's add Yo-yo to that list, despite her being an inhuman. Despite her claim that she always wanted to be able to decide when to use her powers. And no one went to Daisy to offer her any kind of comfort. Coulson is never told, or if he is then we don't see his reaction. We even see Fitz bring up the times she was brainwashed, grieving, or manipulated into "betraying" SHIELD. As if that suddenly makes what he did to her okay?

Moreover, any lingering trauma that Daisy might have had just vanishes on its own in season 6.

The writers chose Fitz so I am firmly on Daisy's side. I would acknowledge he is a victim if the character himself acted like what he did was wrong.

I do blame the writers instead of anyone else because obviously, the way Fitz acted is a reflection of their thought process. It's also true that the incident has made some of Fitz's actions before season 5 worse somehow.

This is sorta rant-y, but why are some people still picking sides regarding the Daisy/Fitz thing in S5 like guys, it’s 2024.

Both of them suffered for what happened. Both of them came out of it traumatised. Fitz was not truly in control of his actions, but Daisy’s reaction was more than valid. Real Fitz or not, he literally cut her neck open and could’ve killed her/condemned the world to being destroyed. Also, no one knew if he would have another ‘episode’ like that afterwards. The safest option for everyone was to lock him up.

Therefore, if I see anyone saying Daisy was wrong for that decision, it’s on sight atp.

I have a whole ass mini essay on this topic somewhere but goddamnnn. Can we stop blaming either of them? Let’s blame the writers instead.

[emilyskinners]

and if i say fitzsimmons being queerplatonic soulmates would've been better/more interesting?

[piperslovebot]

I barely started watching aots, but why does Daisy & Fitz give more than Jemma & Fitz like be fr?

[agentoffangirling]

I just wanna talk about Fitz and Ward for a second here, especially in 1x21

Fitz looked up to Ward as a brother, he was everything he wanted to be. The obvious one is when he saved Jemma, but also when he protected Fitz in 1x7. His respect and dedication to him only grew. To him, Ward could do no wrong

And so when I see people criticizing Fitz for not fully believing Skye when she said Ward was HYDRA, yeah, what did you think? He looked up to Ward the most, like I said, Ward was the pinnacle of humanity in his eyes. Everyone was coping with his betrayal in their own ways; his way was denial

He wasn't intending to be insensitive, he wasn't trying to blame Skye or claim she was wrong, he just couldn't believe it could ever be Ward based on his experiences. Many people would react a similar way, if someone they knew for such a long time turned out to be a wolf in the herd. It's just not possible

But to go back on 1x21, that relationship between Ward and Fitz truly hits the hardest. Fitz wants to believe so badly that he's good, that Garrett is making him do it. He keeps that faith right up till the end, where Ward begins to hit the buttons on the side panel. To see that look in his eyes, his panic when he cries out, "I know you care for us, Ward!"... it's truly hearbreaking. That's the look of a person who's endless hope was just shattered, and it hurts so so much