#anti deku

[arceus-insanity]

So When Did Things Start Going Down Hill

I don't mean everything is shit after this, but things looking back started getting (steadily) worse starting with. Check bottom for more indept view on each option

A) at first I wasn't going to include this one as it happened before most of what I considered shit started happening, but with how much it blatantly favours this lazy-ass child abuser, how could I not include it. And of course, it shows so much evidence that he hasn't changed at all, like only even offering to teach Midoriya and Bakugo to manipulate his favourite victim Shoto

B) when it first happened I was devastated but expected this to lead to greater change to the hero system and society. But no, just a meaningless footnote to the heroes epic battle

C) literally no one questions how a top hero was just so eager to kill someone, or buy a wife, breed her, abuse & neglect his kids to the point one of them was believed dead. Only citizens whining about how Dabi is bad for them

D) here's this apparently big shot hero from the States we've never heard of before and immediately dies. If they wanted to keep Shigaraki from having too many powers they could of just chalked it up to the heroes interupting the process

E) the Todoroki family all blames themselves, this isn't to go into the complexity of abusive households, but to absolve Endeavor's responsibility and guilt. Despite the fact that as the one who created and was in control of this situation, he should be held accountable for theirs as well. The only backlash for his shit is framed as ohh poor Endeavor, he didn't mean for the child he threw away to create consequences, and now people are being mean to them

F) what was the point of this arc? Deku barely asks a villain three questions before giving up. He learns the HPSC had Lady Nagant acting as a secret assassin against any undesireables for them, covered up her arrest and got a replacement assassin (Hawks who has at least one confirmed extra jurdical murder under his belt). Witnesses an innocent woman get attacked for her appearance and was turned away from multiple shelters for said appearance. Deku: Hero Society is the Best, Nothing needs to change, because not every single apple in this basket is rotten to the core! Looking back he just looks worse for this

G) so this child, who due to his parents mistake was blackmailed under great threat & risk, into giving information to the blackmailer, deserves to be chained up and forced to take further risk by the heroes. Remember Endeavor never faces any consequences, nor does Hawks, but this child, Yuga, gets treated like this.

H) once again what was the point? How does Edgeshot know he can do this? How does he know how to do this? Why is he a top hero who has never interacted with Bakugo before this, sacrifices his appearing to be unharmed self, for a random hero student in the middle of a war? Oh and Edgeshot is revealed to be alive at the end of the manga, because Heroes have no consequences and live in magical fairytail land. Again what was the fucking point!

I) This was originally going to be two points, Oh poor Endeavor, victim blaming part 2 and the hospital battle. But I ran out of options and Endeavor doesn't need another personal option. So we got the whole Todofam blaming Dabi/Touya this time, and Endeavor being a whiney responsibility dodging coward again. Then we see the heroes knew that the villains were going to go after Kurogiri, kept him in a hospital. We see that the people aren't going after doctors or patients just trying to get to Kurogiri, get demonized for it. We have victim blamer/ pick-me Tentacole say that their kids will be attacked for this (already happening), and that it's up to them/ him to inspire the violent quirkests to not constantly attack, assualt, and otherwise discriminate against them, no need for the quirkists to be given any responsibility or consequences for their own actions. Oh and Spinner has major brain damage because how else was Tentacole supposed to win this arguement. Bonus points for Hawks calling for Toga to be murdered, doubling right back down on his previous murder

J) in this already overcrowded 3rd act lets make sure all these background characters get a scene! And despite the fact it took years for Deku to get a powersuit in the epilogue, All Might just randomly gets one, no build up or anything. AFO's backstory is left in the past so no one has to consider anything

K) I had hope going into this, but at every turn they kept on making it worse. Deku only tries punching and attacking, rather than make any attempts to actually talk unlike what Shigaraki has been doing since his introduction. Is randomly able to enter Shigaraki's head, doesn't have to see just how fucked Hero Society is as it gets cut short by moral scapegoat AFO coming in and revealing he orcastrated everything! Oh and he flat out kills Shigaraki. Living up to his name and not his goal. Deku that could my ass

Sorry if this comes off as super negative but I've been wondering this for a while, and well I'm pissed at the ending. Here's some people I want to hear the opinions of:

@moodyvoid @nagitosstolenhand @codenamesazanka @shortstrawberryshake @darkonekrisrewrite @nothingofinterest @itsnothingofinterest @villainsandvictimsalliance

Feel free to @ more people

[ultraericthered]

Because Deku's been tragically rendered a sad Failure Hero by Horikoshi in MHA canon by the end of the manga. Y'all know if it had been Hibiki out there, she'd have kept her focus on crisis mitigation, pummelled Shigaraki with hard-hitting giant fists, and most likely still have found a more substantial way to "save" the villains in the end!

Don't take it too hard, Deku fans. I was rooting for him too. :(

[darkonekrisrewrite]

Emily from Hazbin Hotel would be infinitely better at Deku's job (narratively and literally) than he is. For the simple fact that when she finds out about Heaven's dark secret, the exterminations, she is horrified and goes this is not okay, it's not okay that this is happening, I am not going to be quiet about this. If we are judging people off of one moment and are refusing to look at the context, or improvement, while allowing our people to get away with this, than this entire system is a lie. We get this in one episode, fuck it, a song

Deku meanwhile in 400+ chapters finds out horrifying truth after horrifying truth about hero society, and doesn't care, half the time it doesn't even occur that this is fucked up, and should not be happening. He is bullied for years based on his quirk status, especially by Bakugou 'well he's going to be a hero so this shouldn't be taken seriously' He learns that the number 2 hero bought his wife, neglected his not perfect quirk babies and abused all of them, and was already an ass before that, 'theres no need to bring this up to All Might, or the principal, or do anything about that, I just need to get this victim to be cool with his quirk' (this also goes for Bakugou the easedropper). His upperclassman stops him from saving a six year old in blatant danger, and both that top upperclassman, their boss, and his past mentor outwardly state/ agree with it would be bad publicity if they didn't arrest all the Yakuza at once, and that they barely care about that child after learning see was the ingredient to the weapon they were making, 'well were saving her now'. Lady Nagant was and Hawks is the personal assassin for the commission against whoever they want without trial or due process, 'Hawks is going to make a great new president of the commission'. Rody Soul was forced to support his younger siblings as a child, was assaulted by adults, was forced to turn to crime, while heroes did nothing, 'well I'm helping now (because it goes along with a larger case) so it's all good'

After all this Deku is a fucking bootlicker who is mentally so fucking lazy he has never questioned this shit ass system after all this, his values are empty because he only cares to look at the titles and not reality, he has gotten worse, not better, at this over the course of the series. Meanwhile Emily wasn't tolerating this shit day one of finding out, and she was working within this system too

Yeah pretty much true.

People say that hazbin hotel rushes things because of it's short episode count/runtime but at least it always gets to the point without going in circles for years, dragging out the characters finally understanding the message.

When something obviously wrong and counter to everything they believe in, is shoved in a character's face, there should be a reaction equal to the importance of the 'idea/theme' in verse.

In theory, it doesn't matter if their reaction is good or bad/for better or worse, because either way it should be an understood event that causes a blow to their way of thinking, based on the importance of the revelation.

Deku did that all of 1 time.

And that's putting it generously, in him mildly calling out Endeavor at the sports festival, way back at the beginning of the series.

This never happened again, not towards anything related to heroes or hero society.

It should have been a very big deal for Deku to realize that the number 2 hero was able to buy another human being as part of a eugenics goal to make a more powerful hero.

He at least should have considered telling an authority figure (All-might or Nedzu) about it, just in case there was anything else that may have been going on with Endeavor.

It should have been a very big revelation for Deku that his upperclassmen was willing to let a very clearly injured (wearing bandages) and terrified little girl go back with the guy who was obviously implied to be responsible for doing it to her.

Mirio could have beaten or at least stalled overhaul until backup arrived while Deku took Eri and ran.

(He definitely could have too, as he was able to fight against overhaul in a confined space while quirkless, for a fair amount of time.)

But until everyone knew exactly what was going on with Eri, Mirio was fine with putting the mission above a little girl's life, letting her go with someone who they knew was a dangerous Yakuza.

Gigantic red flag regarding what the heroes prioritize when the situation isn't ideal.

It ties back into hero society abandoning those who are inconvenient perfectly, leaving them to suffer and eventually become villains or die.

Looking back Deku should have realized that but because he got the approval of the system to go back and save the girl as part of the mission, everything's cool...

And this does show that he has gotten worse as the series goes on, as he's not even willing to bark back at the hero system.

Deku has called out villains all the time (Dabi, Flecturn, toga and Shigaraki), he knows how to talk back, so it's not that he CAN'T.

But whenever it's something that's got to do with hero's flaws, nothing.

It's that he WON'T talk back to heroes.

And if he really is just a kid who can't even talk back to his bosses or peers, or the "innocent" people who are responsible for (at least) half of the villains in bnha -

With the idea that they are responsible for the villain's current lives, showing how their callousness and cruelty drove the villains to that point.

-Then what the hell have we been following him all this time for?

Izuku has only temporarily saved their society, like Mirio said: "Setting things at Zero".

Is that it? The best to hope for?

Setting things back to Zero with no idea of improvement? Because it's "Impossible"??

[gece-misin-nesin]

bro izuku stans are wild 😭 "When you think about it....Shig had a better childhood than Izu...and yes, Kotaro was abusive. Yes, not denying that but like...he has monchan, friends and a mom who cared for him." look, i hate comparing characters' trauma, but claiming tomura had a better childhood than izuku is absolutely bonkers. im not the only one who thinks that right??

[jacksonseymour13]

I feel like if we weren't gonna start with it, we at the very least could have gotten Deku being a quirkless hero. Now hold on let me explain before you write this off as stupid.

I believe during maybe season 3/4 when MHA was actually still good and not in a rushed state, I think we get Deku losing his powers and has a mental crisis on how he'll be a hero again. Some of his friends and especially Ochako motivates him and tells him he can still be a hero but he just doesn't see it.

It's been drilled in his mind society that you need a quirk, you need some special ability or capability to really thrive in this world. A mere regular human could never do the great things they sought out, they'll just be killed before they know it. Deku at some point in his depression of losing his OFA(not sure how but I'll come back to that pinky swear) and once again giving up his goal, his dream to be a hero.

Deku probably gets put in a zero avoidance situation and steps up voluntarily to save whomever from the conflict and fights some badass villain criminal with a hand sword quirk. He realizes he has no chance fighting him head on without a quirk, his internal conflict rising back up to drag him back down so he runs but not giving up on helping the poor people in danger. No hero could make in time to save them

He HAD to step in because he used to be a hero, he had the necessary experience and knowledge on how to stop situations like this. He's...done that before without using OFA. That's it! Newly found confidence stored in him he stops hiding and faces the villain head on(err kinda🤏) using his wits and surroundings.

It's a good thing the villain has the average speed of a regular human. Were the same be believed for a second, slow your role sport. Deku led the villain near a alley with a nearby dumpster and trashcan. He quickly snagged the lid while the villain was in the middle of his Syndrome like monologue. Deku doesn't care to hear it, his only goal in this very moment is to stop this criminal abusing a gift for his own gain. Deku once had a gift and selfishly abused it till he lost it.

He's prepared and smacks the villain head first with the lid by leaping considerably high dazzling the villain before they recover and penetrate through the lid. Deku wisely let's go before it punctured his aorta killing him, the villain is distracted trying to get the lid off. The lack of fingers making it difficult in the moment, he probably can withdraw them with ease but the moment of conflict persist them to stay shown. Deku takes advantage and grips the criminal's waist and then grabs arm lifting him over his head and slams him into the open dumpster ribs first against the edge.

Deku did it. He beat the notsopowerfulbutstrongenoughforquirklessdekutobeathimforplotandconfidencereasons villain!

That was my hypothesis how I would jumpstart a quirkless hero!Deku because the whole point of MHA's supposed message is anybody can be a hero...but you need a quirk. We were robbed of Deku rejecting that rule and still pursuing his goal. Why give up the goal if you don't have the 1 thing you need to be it? I don't give a shit if it's realistic or not. You can make excuses and sad justifications like:

Absent father

Overprotective mother(she gets too much blame for that)

Over-dependence with heroes

Obsession with All Might

Society's stigma with heroes, quirks and etc. If you quirkless BEAT IT garbage.

Batman copycat(because Spiderman copycat is better. I love this fandom's hypocrisy)

He had no confidence

He was just a kid give him a break

All are not enough to justify Deku giving up his dream. I'm not saying NEVER give him a quirk but Jesus christ, I noticed the over-dependence of needing a quirk for this and that as a problem all the way back in season 1. I'm not convinced by Deku as this great protagonist that I can be inspired by. Frankly he just insults my confidence and tells me "You can be whatever you want...long as you have the credentials and skills" gee thanks.

Overall to wrap up my rabble, if we weren't gonna start the series with Deku understanding he doesn't need a quirk through himself and not forced by the plot. We deserved it half way in the series for him to have this realization he can still do good things for society and help. He has the capabilities just refused to put the work in. He only did the beach shit because he knew there was a reward at the end of it. He never trained, never went to the gym. He could have been a perfect Rock Lee of My Hero Academia, he's a insult to that character with raw hard work, talent and passion for his dreams. Deku is a sad quitter that cried when he found out he was never getting a quirk and became a hero through sheer plot convenience. I'm so sick and tired of people refusing to admit that Deku's "journey" is a terrible one and the weakest of any shounen.

Tl;dr Deku going quirkless for a bit wouldn't have killed anyone and been way better than the garbage v*gilante arc.

[deku-hate-blog]

Reasons Deku sucks #idk anymore

he has 7 quirks. Need i say more. If you need 7 quirks to be the strongest hero, you are not the strongest hero. Every fight is basically a 7 vs 1. It also feels like his extra 95000 quirks where just quirks the MHA team scraped, and the they went : 'Oh Crap... Deku is actually weak af... lets just put all the scrapped quirks in a hat, and pull out a bunch until he's strong enough lol.'

Say it louder for the people in the back!!!!

[number1villainstan]

hi this is @jins-toenail im just on my main blog rn.

ne ways for the unhinged character bingo: Twice, Toga Himiko, and Lady Nagant

i chose some random characters so sorry if u dont like them lol

dw too much about random characters, but if you'd given me like. deku. then we'd have to talk. i hate that hypocritical author-insert black hole protagonist like nothing else

Twice:

twice simply does not occupy any of my brainspace, but he IS one of the victims of the narrative's/Horikoshi's ableism so like. HORIKOSHI LEAVE HIM ALONE. FUCK

Toga Himiko:

ohohoho see NOW we're cooking with gas. toga himiko doesn't live in my brain rent free, she just vacations here every so often, but it's hard not to love the Little Vampire Girl Who Just Wants To Be Loved. i also saw some bitch asses call toga a "parasite on the narrative" once (like no the parasite is deku) with my own two eyeballs and if those people are reading this then come meet me behind the Denny's at 3am i'm gonna whoop your fucking asses

Lady Nagant aka Tsutsumi Kaina:

SNSGOAHGIOAWS;NVKLSAVIOFDANVIONWfi'w *falls on the floor and dies*

but seriously oh my FUCKING god she's such a good character and her potential was FUCKING WASTED in the story right from the start! like oh my fucking god she is NOT going to be convinced to be "good" by a 15-year-old spouting words at her after OVER A DECADE IN SOLITARY FFS! not to mention the fact that she acted Totally 100% Fine in canon after said over a fucking decade in solitary which is unbelievable. for the love of GOD horikoshi stop using disability and mental illness as a way to mark people as villains/"bad people" and let her be angry and scared and constantly overstimulated and feral and unable to remember how to interact with people after, again, OVER A DECADE IN SOLITARY!!!!! she's not going to be fine and she's DEFINITELY not going to be neurotypical afterwards (if she was even neurotypical BEFORE). LET HER BE MENTALLY ILL! FFS!

[theartofsimpatry]

Idc if IzuOcha is canon now, Deku is still my loser cuck. I will be continuing to pray for his downfall daily. I hope to see that cuck go to hell.

[captain-wharfrat-lich]

You hate Deku, kill yourself.

Knowing the BNHA fandom, I can't tell if this is satirical or genuine. I'm going to assume it's genuine. Makes the reaction funnier.

[bomberblondie]

Hi bomberblondie. I haven't read the manga in a while but do you think Bakugou would have changed his superiority complex without Deku? I know he was paired with Endeavor because of their similarities. Bakugou grew a lot in that time frame. He's one of my favorite characters but I want another perspective.

Hi anon! Me neither tbh lmao, but I will do my best to answer either way. :)

First off, do you mean the big three internship at Endeavor's with the "time frame"? Because if so, then I don't see how that would pair them up. In fact, I think Bakugou's similarities to Endeavor are shallow at best, because at their core, they are entirely different people. Bakugou does not respect Endeavor at all and only goes to the internship because he admits that he can still learn from him, only in regards to fighting techniques though.

I'd say Endeavor doesn't have a superiority complex at all, instead he was weighed down by his own inferiority complex to an extent that he believed he himself could never surpass All Might and had to have his child do it. His aggression turns violent so incredibly easily when he fears he can't reach his goals and he takes it out on others.

Bakugou himself is a classic case of gifted child syndrome and I'd say his aggression stems equally from his feelings of inferiority that he tries to hide but also his violent upbringing. I really don't like how Mitsuki raised him, she made everything worse for him even though she does love her son. Ugh but I digress. I would definitely say that Bakugou is so much less violent than Endeavor, yes he does hurt some kids in the first chapter and has his fights with Deku, but that's on a completely different level. Also, Bakugou has the tendency to shove everything down inside first and suffers greatly from it, something I don't see in Endeavor at all.

So basically, while they do seem similar at first glance, I think Bakugou and Endeavor have different problems and in my opinion, Endeavor played no role in Bakugou's development.

Onto the actual question! Yes, I 100% believe that Bakugou would have come around without Deku as well. To be honest, I actually believe that Deku's existence was detrimental to Bakugou's development because he pushed into Bakugou's insecurities and made him pull up his walls even higher. All of Bakugou's bullying and shouting is just a defense mechanism so he can push his fears away.

It's not his true personality though. At his core, Bakugou is a boy who wholeheartedly wants to be good. It shows again and again when he doesn't even think about the LOV's offer to join them after they kidnap him, when he helps his friends with homework for nothing in return, when he gives Kirishima his money back and makes a Kaminari joke to lighten the mood etc etc.

Also, despite calling all the other people "extras", Bakugou doesn't actually look down on them, as is shown when he is the ONLY person (besides Aizawa) who actually takes Uraraka in their school tournament fight seriously. One of my fav moments btw, feminist icon Bakugou is real fr fr

What defines Bakugou is that he wants to become the top hero with his own power, legally, according to the rules and without cheating. He hates lying and wants to do everything right. His aggressive personality and superiority complex stand in the way of that, as people apparently don't believe he can be a hero like that, so I think that no matter what happened, Bakugou would have worked on those flaws so that he can make his dream come true.

Bakugou got humbled when he failed the Hero License Exam, and in the remedial course, he showed development when he said that you can't see your own weaknesses when all you do is look down on people. Deku had nothing to do with that, but his own reflection and maybe Todoroki did. In general, I think Todoroki and Bakugou's relationship is one of the healthiest in the entire manga, but that's a topic for a different day. What's also noteworthy is that the remedial course is the first time Bakugou's upbringing was actually addressed. Violence proved not to be the right way to help them overcome the challenge.

During class 1a vs 1b, Bakugou put all this to action. He wanted to win with top marks, and he learned through everything he experienced, which wasn't really with Deku all that much, that he had to work in a team to achieve that, so he did. When I saw that scene, I wasn't surprised in the slightest, I always knew he had it in him.

Yes, there are scenes where it seems like Deku is a huge factor in Bakugou's development, but I think it's difficult to estimate their actual worth in it, because most of the problems Deku "helps" solving, he had a part in causing.

All Deku does is make Bakugou feel bad, and then later feel bad about himself. Yes, Bakugou has reason to feel bad, but ehh, as I described in my other post, their relationship is very complicated and Deku is not the only victim there.

Phew, talked a long time about this, I hope you enjoyed it! So yes, I do believe that through his own desire to become a good hero and with the help of his other classmates, Bakugou would have been able to overcome his superiority complex and aggressiveness just as well.

[arceus-insanity]

The more I think about it the more I feel shortening the Pro heroes side to the heroes is misleading and disingenuous. Even if it is more intuitive

As myself and many of my mutuals have pointed out, the pros are incredibly hypocritical, corrupt and just plain bad/failing at being heroes. But they are great at the PRO part. The vast majority of them (including the students) feel like they only care about the pro part in practice

The most blatant examples are Endeavor and Bakugou, but they are far from the only ones

If Endeavor was focused on being a hero and not a pro he wouldn't have only cared about getting the number one spot, his focus would actually be on being the best hero he can be. Instead, we have the whole Todofamily shitshow of him buying his wife like livestock, making her pop out kids until he had his perfect quirk baby, neglecting his non-instant perfect quirk kids, and abusing all of them when he isn't neglecting them. He wouldn't be so eager to kill both villains and vigilantes (seen in the Vigilantes series, the nomu attack, and the high-end nomu fight) as well as being more mindful of how much property damage he causes. (I already have so many posts on this bastard, so I'll end this here)

Bakugou's goal in the whole series is to be the number one hero, not a good hero. As I have said with Endeavor many times before, it's not his behaviour that has truly changed, it's people's reactions to them (and it was already shit). He genuinely tried to kill Midoriya for getting into UA in the battle trials, and instead of being rightfully expelled, Midoriya after school, so not in the heat of the moment, tells him part of the One for All secret. He calls the Bakusquad, his supposed friends, demeaning names, same as everyone else. Everyone focuses on how he tells Midoriya to kill himself in the first episode, but later that same day he tells his 'friends' off for suggesting they go to a bar because if he gets caught he can't get into UA. So he had no problem telling someone to kill himself when there wasn't an obvious risk of it affecting him, but a bar where he could get caught suddenly cares. His first proposal for a hero name, and his full official hero name both contain the word Murder. He is violent, at best shouting, every time even the slightest thing doesn't go his way. Aizawa himself states (a guy who constantly praises him) says that the reason he won't join the villains is because he sees the heroes as the winners (chapter 86, and he reaffirms the goal of top hero for me as well)

We see Best Jeanist call outing Endeavor's abuse as airing dirty laundry, Hawks murdering Twice & calling for Toga Himiko's death as well, Gran Torino telling All Might & Deku to get rid of Shigaraki, Burnin outright saying she doesn't care if her boss is an abuser, cause he's good at his JOB. None of the pros who learn Lady Nagant was an assassin for the commission, care. Deku doesn't care when he sees two armed men attacking a woman for being visibly different, and that she had been denied entry from multiple shelters for that same reason, because oh, UA is an exception, so everything's ok, doesn't even help her get to the school, nor does All Might. Both Deku and Tentacole's arguments against villains are basically 'I suffered silently, and now I'm in the #1 Hero school! I'm going to inspire everyone to be nicer, just by being a (generic) hero (who will never rock the boat). So if you can't do that you're worse than your abusers and deserve it!'

I think Uraraka is the only one who is focusing at all at being a good hero, and not a pro, and she doesn't know how to fix any of this.

What the PRO heroes are is a combination of cops and influencers, who have all the corruption and toxicity of both

[elclassicohater]

Bitch wtf you want

That imma say that you a good boy

That imma rub yo hair and shit

Give yo dick a lil sucky sucky

Hell no

Nah bitch these hoes better

[AU in which neither of them becomes a pro-hero part 2]

•

Someone needs to say this to Deku but in the meantime I'll do it myself ♡♡

[darkonekrisrewrite]

With all the child images I think it's important to point out how young, Touya's varies probably because he's the only one that knew his 'saviour' but Tenko is 5 Himiko is 3. That's how young the series thinks they needed to be to be saved, Eri is only 6, and as I've said before she is insanely convenient.

These posts aren't made in they shouldn't have been abused to begin with, this is about saving and redeeming them. And they are all from before they were even capable of fighting back.

They don't even show them actually being saved, just a kid (similarly aged down) that is their age being friendly. And guess what we know Himiko and Tenko had friends, they had people their age around them and playing them, and that didn't save them. Touya at least for a short bit had Natsuo.

None of that mattered because the actual problems were never addressed!

It's all about avoiding dealing with the actual problem and accountability by saying it was too late.

I've started to sour on the whole child symbolism thing too, if this is all it amounted to in the end.

Because it really is the biggest cop-out ever.

"Just be considerate and see that the oppressed and abused who fall through the cracks and become "villains" are human beings too!"

Yeah, no shit.

That's the START of attempting to save someone (especially a villain) and change things for the better.

It's not supposed to be the final answer.

If you're trying to tell a hopeful story about "saving everyone with a smile" (Deku) or enforcing the sentiment of "I want to save people" (ochako), then you really can't have their stories end with the people they're trying to save dying.

(Which is a failure to save, everything in the narrative pointed to Gran Torino supposed to be proven wrong, that was literally read like a challenge to the hero kids that they were supposed to overcome.)

Unless the added pages in the final volume change or reveal something.

Something that would leave the series open ended at least with the possibility of what may come next.

Instead of what we were left with:

Weak, nondescript activism (shoji) and systemic "expansion" (ochako) that doesn't make sense in the setting.

(Repost:

What did shoji do to improve the heteromorph's lives exactly??

And

Expanding access to Quirk Counseling...not REFORMING and then expanding access to Quirk Counseling.)

Deku... inspired one singular old lady (who had personal guilt about abandoning kids anyway) and apparently nothing else for all we know.

This is not a heroic or hopeful ending.

[jacksonseymour13]

I hate the "It's the writer's fault" excuse used for why a character is badly written when yes that's automatic go to and default. Why does nobody EVER disect the reasons why the character actually sucks and pointing out the flaws or problems instead of simply dunking on the writer. Like yes great I despise Hori too for shafting my favorites and/or turning them into bums(Sero,Kaminari,Inasa and Best Jeanist)

But I just get tired of the repetitiveness in this fandom that we always kinda spin things in this sick twisted justification way by scapegoating Hori,Endeavor and AFO who I don't care for strongly at all. Just being the unbiased person I am, I notice a trend.

The fatigue posts of "Izuku/Shigaraki deserves better" while pointing out a few minor issues with their characters without expanding or explaining beyond that by bringing up Horishiki "durr bad writer hurt good character" they were never good to begin with! Like hello? Deku's story of wanting to be a hero as a kid only to give up not even midway or halfway through after finding out he's another quirkless nobody only to then jumpstart his story by ridicolously handing him the said quirk that he got by pure sheer convenience from the 1 guy he looks up that can be transferable. Great. Such a great character that was oh so badly misued by the bad writer.

To keep Shigaraki's short without going on a whole full essay and losing your interest. No AFO is not the sole factor of Shig's corruption and shouldn't be used as an excuse to shield away any criticism against the genocider lipless freak! "Oh but their random. Their fictional. Who cares???🤓" Idfk who cares. It's not like it's a fictional show that you watch and judge characters for their actions but oddly enough not hold them accountable when it calls for it. This fandom is sad, biased and drunk on favoritism with their favorites.

Actually call the characters out and stop dragging other shit to make them look good.

[deku-hate-blog]

Reasons Deku Sucks #20

He never learns his first lesson of not overdoing it. He is just constantly hurting himself for no reason other than him overcompensating.

[number1villainstan]

Why don't you like Deku?

This could very easily be anon hate bait, or something like that, especially given the complete lack of other context and the fact that it's an anon message, but it's also a genuinely good question, so here it is getting answered, or at least getting the short answer. I have a draft with another ask that goes a lot more in depth on what I'm about to say.

The short answer is, Deku's a bad protagonist in that his character traits and arc and how the narrative treats him directly contradicts the messages BnHA seems to be trying to send, and that some (a lot) of his character traits just straight up annoy me. Deku's not allowed to make mistakes, and if he does make mistakes they're not allowed to affect the narrative or his image in any significant way. He also takes up so much screentime, such a high percentage of the show's time, that other characters--even characters that are supposed to be super important, such as Bakugo or Todoroki Shouto--don't get enough room to breathe and develop as their own characters. And even with his disproportionately high amount of screentime, he doesn't get much depth at all. There's no real exploration of the effects of being bullied for being Quirkless, there's no real exploration of the psychological effects of suddenly being the next Symbol of Peace. I find him a boring protagonist and a detriment to the show as a whole.

Like....man, there was a reason I basically dropped the show after the Hassaikai arc. I only started watching BnHA because some friends of mine ship Dabihaul and it intrigued me. I went and read the eight chapters where Nagant showed up (before the Final Battle came out) because she intrigued me, but even in those chapters there was just. So Much Deku. It seemed like 50% of Nagant's appearance was just Making Deku Look Good.

TLDR: I don't like Deku for the same reasons that Anakin Skywalker doesn't like sand: he's rough (as in he's really just a rough draft of a character rather than a fully fleshed out protagonist), he's irritating, and he gets e v e r y w h e r e.