#anti brutalia

[selinakylesupremacy]

Last couple of years I've noticed anti's have been a pushing to seperate Selina from the Batfamily and make up a narrative about Selina hating/ not wanting children. It's such a blatant and transparent attempt to prop up legitimise their own preferred ship. It's particularly egregious because it's always phrased in such a disingenuous way, acting like they're doing Selina's character a favour by erasing one of her major personality traits which has preserved in comics for 80 years.

Idk.. I just find it so gross how people fake concern about Selina by trying to tear her away from the batfamily and children, ignoring and disregarding Selina's actual character and personality under the guise of "feminism".

[cinderthehuman]

Guys guys

I hate Talia and BruTalia so much, I want to regurgitate my meal whenever I see that.

And it sucks because I love Bruce and most of the bloggers who make content I like about Bruce and his kids and other ships I like also make content about Talia and I start tweaking every time.

This isn't hate to anyone who likes Talia or BruTalia, go right ahead.

I just needed to get that off my chest. Obviously, I know that bloggers aren't gonna make the content I like but I seriously wish that there was one singular blog that loves Bruce and Batfam as much as I do, who posts rambles and ideas and fics and etc about them-

But also HATES Talia and BruTalia as much as I do.

[sad-outsider]

I like ships with interesting dynamics, where both characters influence each other, teach each other something and simply complement each other (Darklina, Wonderbat). I may not like shipp for several reasons, such as it being incredibly toxic (Brutalia) or boring (Superwonder). Sometimes both (Batcat). But there are ships that I hate fiercely - those that lack the main thing that, in my humble opinion, is needed to build a relationship (any relationship, not just romantic) - acceptance. I believe that if a person cannot accept you for who you are, then you should do yourself a favor and tell that person to go to hell. It cannot be a choice of “should I be myself” or “should I be with someone”. You can’t build a relationship (any kind) on the foundation of denying your true self (yes, I’m talking about you, Mal, go to hell).

[transmasculinizing]

i will NEVER get over the erasure of how much bruce loves talia (by both batfanon and dc themselves) like no he is soooooo madly in love with her. he is not an emotionless wall u just dont wanna believe he could be so deeply down bad for a woc. theyre also divorced thats so tragic bc they love each other but cant be together bc Theyre Just Like That

[spocks-husband]

I don't care what Grant Morrison or anyone else on the planet says-- this is my Talia. She is complex and traumatized and loving and scared and as gentle as she possibly can be with hands taught only to kill, and Bruce is (until Damian) the brightest, most beautiful thing in her life. She loves that man more than anything. Fuck you. Go read Batman Chronicles #8.

[beautyconsumer]

why when having the batfam playing as a nuclear family they use batcat when Talia is right there?

and this is not, by any means, hate towards Selina's character. On the contrary, having Selina play a mom in a nuclear family feels against her character when Talia was literally made to be Batman's love interest, regardless of how she has been written in Morrison's run, (which was retconned)

[zeynyukine3011]

Brutalia a flop pick up a damn Batcat comic for once

Batcat shippers pick a Talia comic that wasn't written with racism for once └⁠(⁠ ⁠＾⁠ω⁠＾⁠)⁠」

[thebisexualbatman]

“talia al ghul never raped bruce”

[brucestalia]

Hi there big fan of Brucetalia it’s not my favorite ship but I do prefer it over batcat and is in my top 3 Batman ships

thank you for the ask ! my top three would be: 🥇bruce wayne x talia al ghul (obvious) 🥈bruce wayne x clark kent (i love my husbands) 🥉bruce wayne x harvey dent OR minkhoa khan (or literally anyone else idk) the only reason i don't ship batcat is actually not because i ship brutalia -- but because i, selina kyle fanclub president, growing up fairly sheltered in a religious household with no real concept of queerness, looked at kate and selina and said: "omg....two women....and they are in love."

user brucestalia origin story 😍😍😍i was a katelina shipper wayyy before i got into brutalia

[slvrrseifier]

The day I forget that, in batman and beyond, Damian is Bruce and Selina's son is the day I will forever rest in piece because what the fuck do you mean he's their son. He's Talia and Bruces son I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT IN BATMAN IN BEYOND UES BATCATS SON.

Whoever decided that he was batcats son, I will find you.

Sorry not sorry I despise batcat. It's the only reason why I won't watch Batman and beyond.

[ave-on-main]

Once again Tom Taylor writes Dick as the Nice Jokster by making him invalidate Dick's important connections. Dick has been involved in Bruce's love life. He feels with Bruce when Selina breaks up. He notices the romantic tension between them. So much so that he constantly gets used to validate BatCat in fandom and in canon! Dick was also there when Talia lived with Bruce. He was so up in Bruce's love life that he ran to Selina.

What is it about inter-character connections that Taylor hates so much? Why can there be no emotional beats? Why does Dick have to be flatter than a sheet of paper?

It's not "cool" to be involved in your mentor's love life and that's why Dick can't be, but he is. Dick cares so much. How much Dick cares about people is a huge if not the biggest part of his character and sometimes that care brings pain and conflict -- two words Taylor screeches at as if he's a vampire faced with a crucifix.

[whalehouse1]

Them: Bruce doesn’t care that Dick hates Talia. He’s still into her.

Me: Hate to break it to you but until recently in comic history, Bruce did not care that Dick hated any female he showed interest in because he thought it made Bruce act like a moron (and he was very much in the right to believe this).

[evelyn-2007]

MY DC OTPs

Dickkory- especially in the cartoons and in the 80s/90s comics, the perfect relationship who deserved to get married, if Clark and Lois and Barry and Iris can do it so can Dick and Kori.

Dickroy- mainly pre-NTT and the outsiders comics and everything with Lian in the comics.

Jaytemis- Such a cool Dynamic. It’s great to see Jason get the love he deserves from people who are uninvolved in his family, Dick in particular.

Timber- Tim needs someone who connects him to Tim Drake so he doesn’t lose himself to his mask like Bruce did. Also they’re adorable.

Cass2- I have no idea if they have ever interacted but I’m hooked on this ship. (Cass Cain and Cassie Sandsmark)

Not quite an OTP but out of Batman’s love interests the original Talia was my favorite.

Mar’li- Kingdom Come Mar’i and Lian are obviously obliviously in love.

MY DC OT3-4s

Dickkoryroy- Lian…

DickArtemisWallyZatanna-Young Justice

MY DC BROTPs

DickDonna

JasonBizzaro

TimCassie

Stephcass

MY DC NOTPs

Dickbabs

Jayroy

Joyfire

JasonXDonna

All Batcest

Not quite a Notp but Bruselina

[spocks-husband]

"erm well even if the rapist Talia stuff was retconned, it really ruined her character and I'll always see her as a rapist now 🤓☝🏻--" You should be shot in the streets like a dog.

[redwiccanrobin]

Some Brutalia horniness to piss off the antis.

[zeynyukine3011]

The Batcat stans are jumping you for your take but I stand beside you. Your take was so real and true

Awww thank you so much ❤️ I tagged Batcat because Batcat shippers use Talia's/Brutalia's tag to badmouth her/them a lot. And I can't remember how many times I have to tell people that Talia is not a rapist, bad person, bad mother etc.

This is my hot take and they don't have to agree ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

I was sleeping and the chaos I woke up to was pretty fun to be honest. They can just block and move on. ⁽⁠⁽⁠◝⁠(⁠ ⁠•⁠௰⁠•⁠ ⁠)⁠◜⁠⁾⁠⁾

Thank you so much for the support 💚����