#anti Natalia dollenmeyer

[mazzystar24]

My 911 hills I will die on:

Eddie Diaz is gay

Buck has ADHD- the writers could come knocking on my door and tell me that he’s not and I still would argue with them with a PowerPoint and everything

The Buckley parents deserve to go straight to hell and their redemption arc makes me foam at the mouth (negative)

More on that: the insistence of a show that is so deeply rooted in the concept of found family to constantly give shitty parents redemption arcs is so irritating

Maddie Buckley didn’t raise buck since she was 9 years old while dealing with her own trauma or give him her jeep and money (AKA HER LITERAL SAFETY NET TO ESCAPE HER ABUSER) just so people can sit there and call her a bad sister -I’m a Maddie Buckley defender and I stand by that

Both sides were flawed with the lawsuit thing and neither should be too harshly judged- Bobby kept buck out when buck already proved himself but he was doing it out of protectiveness in his own flawed way because let’s be honest he just saw the guy he considers a son nearly die in front of him three times in one year and saw the PT and toll it all took through the whole process and keep in mind he’s already lost 2 kids already but buck also shouldn’t have sued impulsively or disclosed such intimate information and should’ve tried to take a more rational approach but let’s also be fair and remember this is the guy THAT DID GO THROUGH ALL THOSE THINGS IN THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME like no one would be okay mentally, no one would be rational, not when you spend a shit ton of time to recover only to be told (in his brain at least) that it’s not enough from someone you not only consider as a mentor, friend and father figure but also the same person who was motivating you through your recovery

The way Shannon spoke about Christopher’s cerebral palsy will never not rub me the wrong way I’m sorry to any who love her

The way Natalia spoke about bucks death is also just a no from me

I actually hated the whole thing with Hen and the madney engagement like idk why the writing felt it was appropriate to try to compare Hen CHEATING (granted it was ooc and in season one) with Maddie suffering postpartum depression make it make sense- they could’ve had the same level of hen and chimney friendship moment/ hen looking out for him without doing this type of thing which just made me a little angry with hen while watching it but ultimately deciding this storyline doesnt exist in my brain

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You know what could bring Buck out of his relationship hamster wheel? If he wouldn't get together with someone after a big thing happened in his life

- he got together with Abby after going through the Devon thing, getting fired and the whole therapist thing

- he got together with Taylor after Eddie got shot

- he got together with Natalia after he died for more than 3 minutes

- and he got together with Tommy after Bobby and Athena almost died and he realised he'e bisexual

Him getting together with Eddie should happen in a really domestic way without any near death experience

[gwenyn28]

Since a lot of people have pointed this out, I gave that theory a bit more of a thought and... well...

Maybe it is true that they recycled the storyline they had for Buck and Natalia in mind and used it for Buck and Tommy.

We know that there was something planned for them but it fell through because Annelise was not able to come back to the show due to other obligations.

And honestly, this whole storyline would fit pretty much for Natalia, the death doula. Because the topic was mainly a dead corpse and a curse.

What is a death doula? It is a person who assists in the dying process much like a midwife who is there while giving birth. They are there to help the families of the deceased to cope with the death of their beloved. That they will recognize it being sth natural and also a part of life.

Let's think about Billy then. He was an outlaw. A crimial. Who had a rough life and was not treated properly after he died. He was not buried and was passed along between a circus, rodeo and whatnot. He could not find peace.

That would fit so good to Natalia's backstory or better her profession because she helps people accept death and also helps them during the dying process.

It actually sounds quite plausible that this story was written for them. Yes, some things would have been needed to be different because in season 7 there was no Halloween. I am sure they had a different way of Buck getting in contact with Billy to start that story for him and Natalia.

For me, the more important thought it... if this is true and they really recycled the storyline... did they recycle all of it?

Because in that screenshot from an interview given by Tim in March you can see that this relationship between Buck and Natalia would have ended due to that planned story.

We know so far that in the next episode there will be some truths coming to light and "unexpected hurdles" in the relationship between Buck and Tommy.

Does it have to do with the curse storyline? We don't know yet. And actually, it is not that important. Because they probably had to adjust it so that it would fit the timeline and the new love interest.

But... all in all, maybe this is still the direction the story will take and it will be another nail in the coffin of the Buck and Tommy relationship.

That this story (no matter in what capacity it is played out on screen) would be the end of Buck's current relationship.

If... and really IF they parallel what they had in mind for Buck and Natalia with what they now gave Buck and Tommy.

[buddiesmutslut]

I saw a post the other day about someone being pissed that people were calling Eddie gay instead of bi only because they couldn't handle more than one bisexual person on a show. Now, I didn't make Eddie gay/demi, he was born that way, BUT it got me thinking, because the whole crew feels very fruity? SO, I want to get your guys' opinions on what you think the rest of the characters are. (JUST the characters. We're not speculating on the actors. We all know this.) I'm going to put mine below & I'd love to hear everyone else's thoughts :) These are by vibes only. As a definite demisexual and probable bi woman, idk how great my gaydar is, but sexuality is a spectrum & straight isn't the default, so let's go!!

Bobby - 0% fruity. That is a straight, middle aged white man (affectionate) if I've ever seen one.

Athena - Also straight.

Chim - Chim feels very straight to me, but that scene with the bachelor had me peering at him a little closer, because I've never watched the Bachelor, but it looked like Joey (I think that was the bachelor's name, right? I've never watched a single episode of that show so I have no idea) had been around before, so I couldn't tell if he was like, starstruck, or "Wow that's a pretty boy and it's making me feel things" -struck 😂

Maddie - I don't get many vibes from her either, but I also have a vague fic idea of Madney breaking up in s4/s5 and her ending up with Shannon instead, so idk, maybe she's just unlabeled but somewhere on the spectrum of queerness?

Shannon - Bi vibes

Taylor Kelly - 100% bi, I refuse to hear any other argument.

Lucy Donato - This is a pansexual woman if I've ever seen one, you cannot convince me otherwise. (Also, the most interesting AND likable of Buck's female LI's, argue with the wall. Lucy, they'll never make me hate you bby 🩷💛💙.)

Lena Bokso - Lesbian vibes, for sure. I don't think there was ANY romantic undertones with her and Eddie (Which, I'm not saying that's the only reason I think she's a lesbian. She can like men and not like Eddie. Even if she did, Eddie wasn't in a place to do anything with those feelings, but I saw a post about that pairing recently & wanted to throw my 2 cents in)

May Grant - May also gives off queer vibes, and I've seen other view her as full wlw, but I think she gives off more bi/pan vibes?

Ravi - This man is soommmeee kind of queer that I just cannot put my finger on. I've seen him HC'd as gay, pan, & ace in some way, and I can honestly rock w/ any of the 3 of them. All I know is that he is not a straight man lol.

Albert - Also unsure about him, but if someone were to tell me that he was bi, I could definitely see it. I think that's influenced by the fic that had him, Ravi & May in a throuple, which was genuinely so cute.

Ana - Dr. Flores doesn't give off queer vibes for me, but that could be bc she was criminally underdeveloped & we know practically nothing about her.

Natalia - See above ^^

Ali Martin - Same ^^ although I could see her just being queer and not being more specific than that. Maybe she's straight, who knows. I literally forgot about her until I was looking up actor/actress names 😂

M*risol - straight & homophobic lmfao

Abby - Literally could not care less about her, but I wanted to include her so I could talk about her possibly being Tommy Kinard's ex-girlfriend and her coming back to LA for whatever reason and finding her ex-boyfriends happy & having totally forgotten about her predatory ass.

Also, obviously not speculating about any of the children, bc they're still children, even if they're fictional. It's icky.

I think that's all the main/reoccurring characters that we don't already know about, let me know if I missed any.

Talk about being the gay firefighter show, how accurate lmfao.

[mazzystar24]

Just got up to Natalia’s introduction in my rewatch and dear god why is it worse than I remember

“How did you pull that off”

“That’s amazing”

Then the second he says he died she suddenly asks him out for coffee but she doesn’t say “I’d love to hear more about you” she says “I’d love to hear more about your acquaintance”

Then at the date: “It’s so cool , cmon wasn’t it? be honest”

I seriously don’t understand how the writers expect us to ship them or think that this relationship is anything but disastrously unhealthy for a guy who grew up getting attention and love only when he was hurt

I know I’ve said all this before but seriously the only thing that makes sense about buck and Natalia is that from a psychological perspective this definitely tracks with his issues

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Should I make a post how even fics tagged with Tommy bashing give him so much more grace than it was ever given to female characters? How describing his canon behaviour or bringing up his past is tagged bashing when thats just stating facts, while Taylor, Ana, Natalia and Marisol are villified to a ridiculous degree?

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I hate when people group Tommy with all the female love interest and talk like the only reason people hate him is because he's a love interest.

Ana, Natalia, Marisol, Taylor did nothing to deserve the hate they got and Tommy was a racist asshole

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Do they not remember how happy he was with Abby before she left him???? Or how happy he was with Natalia when he thought she was the only person who really seems him??? Hell he even seemed happy with Taylor up until 5b. Buck is ALWAYS happy in relationships during the honeymoon phase

Yep. I would also argue that his current relationship had the worst start out of all (which says a lot given that Eddie was in a coma when he got together with Taylor)

He and Abby had been talking for weeks before they met in person and Buck couldn't shut up about her.

He and Ali had great banter and their first (and only shown) date was cute

He and Taylor had pretty great chemistry and they had a solid friendship before getting together (no matter how much I wish that the show would have just let them be friends)

He felt like he and Natalia had an instant connection and while Natalia left him after their first date, she also came back!

His relationship with Tommy started with Tommy leaving him on the curb (and I'll never be not salty about it) and Tommy not dressing up for the bachelor party, just dismissing Buck.

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So, I made a poll about which love interest got the most undeserved hate and I don't know why I'm suprised by the results. And by results I mean Tommy being at the second place. Tommy, who was a racist, sexist jerk in the begins episode and puts the blame for his actions on other factors.

While Marisol and Natalia did nothing wrong. Natalia is the worst for always bringing up death (when the main reason Buck was interested her is the fact that she is a death doula), but Tommy is great for turning an emotional moment into a sex joke. Marisol had barely any screentime and she's not relevant, but Tommy's importance just hadn't been fully used yet.

Ana had one ableist comment, but she's the devil and fics reduce her being an ableist homophobe (which I don't even know where came from), while Tommy repateadly engaging in racist, bigotes behaviour does not define him and nobody should talk about it, he's not a racist.

Taylor's decision of wanting to air the footage of Bobby might've been shitty, but it's actually shown that she's involved with the firefam after being Buck's girlfriend and she's redeemed, but she's a bitch who will always be the same awfull person from s2, while Tommy's past does not define him

The double standard between female love interests (who were mainly unproblematic) and between a canonically racist, sexist jerk is just disgusting.

Most of the hate Tommy gets is due to his actions and behaviour and has nothing to do with him being a love interest

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Natalia and Tommy are literally the same character, but different gender

Both meet Buck during a rescue, had a bad first date, decided to redo it and then it was shown it's gonna be the one. Only thing thats missing is the off-screen breakup

Only difference they did Tommy the backstory of being an asshole and always be condescending towards Buck

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Out of all of Buck's love interest only Natalia and Ali had such little screentime and interactions with Buck as Tommy does

And both relationship got an off-screen breakup