#anti Misha

[sammylikepuppy]

Where did it come from that "Jared is not a great to work with" thing? I've never heard it from anyone (maybe except Misha).

[the-analytical-bostie]

I had a heller recently go off on me for two days about how “we” lack media literacy skills and how their media literacy skills are superior. I politely reminded them that the writers did not write their ship in complete subtext for 12 seasons, and that if they have to try that hard that just maybe it doesn’t exist.

Nobody misled anyone. They mislead themselves because they “saw” what they wanted to see. You can’t blame anyone else for that. Well except maybe your overlord who IS intentionally misleading you for relevance.

It can actually only be called "misleading" if it was the author's deliberate intention to mislead the audience. If the author had no intention to lead you to the wrong conclusion, and you simply arrived at one all by yourself, it's just sparkling Your Lack Of Reading Comprehension.

[walkergirlsposts]

If anyone needs further proof why Misha lies about his lead role offers he "turns down" just look at his post. No actor who is at a lead role level does this gross shit. He knows his career is dead. That's why he's so disgusting.

[deansimpalababy]

Hellers need to stop with all the editing of videos and photos to try and make their nonexistent ship real.

Destiel doesn't exist and never will. Get over it already!

Dean will always be canon 100% straight, no matter what their mental delusions tell them. He only checked out, flirted with, and slept with women.

I can't wait until they day Jensen finally has enough and tells them off. He should have to deal with weirdos like them.

castiel is nothing more than a genderless celestial beam of light inhabitanting a corpse and always will be.

If anything, castiel came off as straight leaning. He had a conon relationship with the female demon Meg. They even kissed, and she gave up being a demon and pretended to be a nurse to watch over her angel when he took on the mental heath issues he caused Sam to have by breaking his wall. Any attraction he showed was toward female characters. His female boss as "steve" and the female reaper he slept with.

If misha could keep his mouth shut and stop pandering to them(which we know he will not do,he makes too much money off of them). I wish they never cast misha. Any other actor would not have pandered to them.

Hey Drululu, how about stop editing clips to make it sound like your ship is a thing.

Drululu’s post:

Original Interview:

It’s the first question, and well, it’s a totally different story than what Drululu is trying to pass off up there!

[lightofraye]

out of genuine curiosity and the drive to have a calm conversation, why do you hate destiel?

I’m going to take this in the spirit intended and answer calmly. I cannot promise any of my fellow antis will do the same and cannot control their behavior.

With that caveat in place…

Easy. It’s not canon. All the supposed subtle messages, “lingering” looks, and other nonsense do not excuse nor detract from the fact that Castiel really fucked up a lot! Bringing Sam back soulless? Breaking his wall? The mess with the angel tablet? On and on… Castiel—had Misha not been “protected” by Bobby Singer, among other bullshit behind the scenes—would have been written out of any other story! No way Dean would have ever forgiven him for all the stuff that had been done to Sam!

How on earth could have Dean loved Castiel with all that?! Especially given how rabid and fanatical Dean is about Sam! It took jumping the shark to even make Castiel make sense and stay when the story would’ve demanded he be removed.

But here’s the thing—when I first watched Supernatural, it was without any knowledge of J2 and Misha. None. I only remembered Jensen from his time on Days of Our Lives. Nothing more. (And Jared from Gilmore Girls.)

I never saw Destiel. Zilch. Zip. Nada.

Maybe you did! Cool. Don’t care. It’s not canon. Jensen, the other half of the Destiel ship, has demanded more than once “Where is Destiel real?”

I’ve seen some seriously toxic and disturbing posts and comments by Hellers about how they don’t care what Jensen says. They want him forced if need be to make Destiel real.

That soured me immensely.

But! Only to those who insist it’s canon (it’s not), to those who ignore Jensen, to those who chase down and send death threats to those who are anti Destiel and/or anti Misha.

The general, quiet Destiel fans? Fine with me.

Those who behave badly? Nope. I’ve seen enough to believe the history of death threats that were sent to Jensen, the inappropriate Destiel stuff he’s had to sign in autos and pose in photo ops. He’s been accused of being homophobic, biphobic….

Such behavior has made it hard to even remotely tolerate Destiel as a whole.

I hope this answers your question.

[wishngwinchesters]

everything i learn about misha collins makes my hatred for him grow and i just keep learning new things

[laf-outloud]

For any fan of Misha to believe what he supposedly said in today's panel about taking a prank too far, they must either be new to the fandom, or have absolutely no memory of these stories before.

Let's be honest, the fans who think Misha's telling the truth "this time" absolutely know it's not true and are using this new story to persecute Jared, once again.

For those who haven't seen, here are the tweet reports from Misha's panel. Obviously, video will provide proof, but there are enough details to get the gist and these aren't the standard Misha-fan con reporters that like to lie about or twist what was said.

So, the original story about Jared taking a picture was told by Misha on the Inside of You podcast (see below). There was no zero gravity dive. Misha simply forgot to lock the bathroom door. Jared took a picture of him on the toilet, not naked and with no urine in sight. And yes, in retaliation, Misha flushed Jared's phone... the one that had the only pictures of his son, Shep's birth.

As for the getting knocked around, being covered in urine, etc. That comes from a trip Misha took with Rich, Rob, and Matt down to Australia for a convention. Misha tells the story here:

Matt, Rob and Rich have all corroborated that story here and here. It's actually a pretty funny story on it's own.

So, Misha put together some mash up of these two stories, making him the victim (once again) of a dangerous stunt supposedly perpetrated by Jared (which no pilot would ever agree, especially without all passengers belted).

If you haven't caught on by now, Misha lies. And he lies for a purpose. Most often, it's to engender sympathy from his fans so they'll continue to see him as poor, picked-on Misha who can related to them because they are also the 'outcasts' in their world. And if he can relate to them, then they'll continue to give him their money.

You may also wonder why Misha frequently references Jared as being the one to prank him (and often, the only one). One, because he needs Jensen as the other half of the Destiel pairing, which is another way to keep his fans dropping money in the coffers. And two... jealousy. From past stories and behavior, it's obvious Misha's jealous that Jared is as successful as he is, someone who never went to college but has worked steadily for over 24 years in an industry rife with unemployment. Misha likes to say things that imply Jared's only gotten by on his looks and not any kind of talent, but we know that's simply not the case. Actor's aren't employed for that long and that consistent on their looks alone. Talent and hard work are also needed, two traits which Misha obviously doesn't have, so he resorts to stringing along his dwindling fanbase with any story he can, regardless of it's veracity or whom it may hurt in the process.

Finally, Misha knows exactly who his fans are and how his fanbase takes the things he's said, so if he's ever called out and says he was joking and that people misinterpreted what he said, he's lying. And I'd say that lying was the only thing he was good at if it weren't so easy to debunk the lies.

[babyboywinchester]

Just for shits and giggles let’s all, who have been harassed by this particular person, mistlovesxcas, share some of their most insane fucking comments they’ve actually made to people unprompted. I would tag them but they blocked me a long time ago.

I’ll start…

Ayo, @staff, when will you ban this person for telling people to kill themselves, huh?

[hoechlins-hole]

Castiel: double dead in superhell or something

Sam and Dean in heaven fucking raw every 4 hours for all of eternity:

[4evacrazy]

What is wrong with this moron. He's such a pervert, always has to talk shit about Jensen and Jared to make himself interesting and make everything about sex. He even admits Jensen won't like what he's saying but does it anyway, because he doesn't give a shit about J2.

[0dayssincejensenwasobjectified]

Those fucking assholes. Destiel isn't canon. I don't give a shit if Rich and Rob and anyone else say it's canon--it isn't!

The only person who can decide that is Jensen Ackles and guess what, you nutjobs? He says Destiel doesn't exist! Dean sees Castiel as a friend and brother-in-arms, period!

[jarpadswalker]

Now, we all know exactly when, who, and how SPN set became toxic. Misha was the leech that hit SPN and made everything toxic. You could see how he impacted Jared just by looking at his health. Jared is glowing ever since Supernatural ended.

Also, it is very telling how not a single person has ever talked about how great it is to work with Misha in a public context ( barring the PR activity/con where actors have to give the party line). Nor, is he getting any new projects clearly seeing how unlikeable and toxic he is.

Also, not to forget this is not the first instance even during S7 when Misha was removed (a great initiative by Sara)he couldn't find a single job and started blaming Supernatural.

[lightofraye]

It's come to my attention that most people are... not as skilled at reading body language as they'd like. Now, I'm not saying I'm a "certified" reader of body language (is there even such a thing?!), but I have an advantage most people do not have.

See, I was born into a deaf family, though I myself am not deaf. As a result, American Sign Language is my first language. With American Sign Language, there's a lot of body language with it--it's not just gesturing with hands. It's reading facial cues, it's shifting the body this way and that, to convey the tone that would normally come with a tone of voice.

Why do I mention this? Because... well. I'll show you.

People don't realize that Jensen rubbing his face, pulling his hat off, running his hand through his hair was a stress response. He's stressed--with Misha. He's not happy being there, but had to be there.

Especially after being asked what he admired about Misha.

This? Not playful. Look at Jensen's face. He really didn't want to, but he's in a professional setting and therefore had to give Misha a hug back.

Again, a polite hug, not a genuine one.

Trust me, folks. Jensen merely tolerates Misha. He shouldn't, given all the bullshit Misha's put him through over the years with the Cockles nonsense (that Danneel supported, the witch!), had sexually assaulted Jensen during the filming of Supernatural, and so much more.

Edited to add information.

[hippychick006]

wait omg what's the story of j nearly decking m??

It was years ago, J2 had a panel where they shot Destiel down, meanwhile M had his own panel where he queerbaited and also said something like he’d go speak to Jensen to sort him out (on Destiel). Jared was pissed, there’s video.

This was the time when they thought he could be reasoned with but learned that he cannot be reasoned with. He says/does what he wants and doesn’t care he’s lying to people or causing problems for others. All he cares about is himself and what he’s getting. Actually, if he’s causing chaos and misery for others, he’s happier.

[the-analytical-bostie]

They really tell themselves anything but the truth don’t they?

You know, where Misha told Jensen he’d be available for the finale and Jensen said “nope, we’re good”.

[kvitka97]

Always with the baiting.

Do we think he realizes how he riles up his followers and how vicious they can be towards Jensen when he doesn’t play along?

Of course he does, he simply doesn’t care. If he did he would have stood up every time his fans accused Jensen of being homophobic when he spoke about not playing Dean as a gay or bisexual character. He’s not a good person nor is he a good so called friend.

I’m so disappointed he’s going to be on The Boys, why should those fans be subjected to the Hellers. I know Kripke likes chaos but Jesus this sucks.