#andreth rp

[rottendrummerboy]

{ intro & rules }

minors dni.

mun is a 25+ woman in cst.

mun will not write with or against nancy.

given there is little to no canonical information for gareth, i operate with him being a senior at the age of eighteen at the time of season 4. that being said, mun will not write gareth against any member of the party.

basic rules/preferences and ship list below the cut!

will only write with those 18+. 21+ is preferred, but not mandatory. as stated above, minors dni. minors will be blocked immediately.

nsfw preferred and welcome. open to most things, but will not write pedophilia, necrophilia, kinks involving vomit/scat. if you question anything else, there's no harm in asking!

au is always welcome and sometimes preferred!

prefer if we write on discord, but could be persuaded into using tumblr.

mun will write any of the following ships:

gareth/andy, gareth/eddie, gareth/jason, gareth/tommy, gareth/chrissy, gareth/carol

i am not looking to write oc ships right now.

[askandreth]

Andreth Saelind

"But already we had our own lore, and needed none from the Elves; we knew that in our beginning we had been born never to die. "

Rules

Character info

Modern AU info - TBA

Wishlist

[friendofmen]

Rules

This is a sideblog. I will like and follow from @irisseireth

This should go without saying but at least when interacting ooc, be nice and I'll do the same.

Mun is 21+, pronouns are she/they.

DMs open to everyone, please reach out for plotting, general character chat, or any other enquiries. Discord also available for mutuals.

I will ship non canon ships based on chemistry and feel with the mun. Canon ships are Amarië and maybe Bëor. Please reach out if you wish to write ships.

Asks and memes are welcome, we don't need to have interacted before.

We don't need to be mutuals to write together. Feel free to follow/unfollow as you see fit.

NSFW and triggers will be tagged accordingly, if you would like any specific triggers tagged please let me know.

Andreth may guest muse if the plot requires it, as I also run @askandreth and I might reblog from there.

Formatting and aesthetic aren't important to me. I dislike tiny fonts, but you do you.

Totally open to duplicates and non exclusive unless otherwise stated.

Reply speed doesn't matter to me, take all the time you need. I appreciate a heads up if you want to drop threads, but it isn't necessary, if you aren't feeling it that's it.

Please don't reblog RP threads if you arent involved. Asks (as long as they arent RP threads), headcanons and any other posts are OK to reblog, unless otherwise tagged.

[irisseireth]

*jumps in the bandwagon*

[legolasgoldy]

📚 for the aegnog

// Thank you!!! :D @fell-fire. I hope this is okay, I only had the Silm at first  but it was too hard to find dialog so i just grabbed the next random thing and this was the best i could find haha.  //

Send “📚” and I will flip to a random page in a book and use the first line of dialogue I see as a starter.

“ Oh jeez. That’s embarassing.”

[ardabuilt]

rules. tag people you’d like to get to know better tagged by. @loyalservants ( ty pan! ) tagging. @mindsmade | @knightcrea | @nyarnarfuinello | @valorfated | @tofindthesun | @sunqxeen | @voidxsm

favorite color. green. of any shade. top 3 favorite ships. i’ll just do ones related to this blog/fandom ; manwë x varda ( just end me luca @mindsmade brings me so much joy with this ship that i just adsfgh at these two often ). nessa x tulkas ( ugh this tiny cute bean who loves dancing and then there’s tulkas that’s like the strongest one ever to exist and they are adorable! featuring @warriorswithin ). galadriel x celeborn ( i haven’t had a chance to rp this yet but i adore them ).

like pan i’mma give some special mentions -  aulë x yavanna, oromë x vána, feanor x nerdanel, andreth x aegnor ( featuring @warriorswithin again lol ), elrond x celebrían ( just end me with the cute and then the angst of this wtf @mindsmade )

others - aragorn x arwen, luthien x beren, elladan x vezely, edlarion x luinelen ( it’s totally canon what u talking about ).

lipstick or chapstick. both. together. last song. something by ed sheeran since i have his cd on in the car. last movie. i honestly can’t remember? but i’m gonna watch aquaman later! currently reading. nothing.

[easterlingwanderer]

What Men Lost : A Meta

There are things I sometimes wonder about humans in Tolkien, and how… elven-centric the Silmarillion is.

I speak only of the Silmarillion because, as it will become clear later on, by the time of LotR it is too late.

Specifically I wonder about what is lost.

 This meta is focused on three points:

An analysis of how uncomfortable elves are with the concept of Men knowing something they don’t, in particular, something that goes against their lore as given by the Valar

As a result, how Elves worked the narrative around the concept of Mortality vs Immortality, and how Men accepted that manipulation and how absolutely nothing good came from it

How the original problem may not have been about immortality vs mortality at all

Let’s begin!

Humans Making Elves Uncomfortable Since The First Age

When the Eldar (and I meant: the High Elves. Not all the Quendi) went to Beleriad, they knew humans were to come. They had a nice little packaged story in their mind, told to them by the Valar, that went about like this:

 Eru decided to make two children, and he would give to the first born everything, they would be beautiful and eternal and happy. And then there would be a secondborn who would get… to leave Arda, which the Valar assured them it was a very nice thing to have! And well the Valar said so… so it must have been true.

Oh and they would also get Beleriad but they wouldn’t get Valinor, which the Eldar not-so-secretely thought was better.

 Then Elves Met Men, and they discover it May Not Be Like That At All.

Because:

1.      Men believes they weren’t made to be mortal

2.      Men Are Not Happy about their lot

3.      … Men apparently? Spoke with Eru? In the Beginning?

 Now point 1 and 2 had been extensively talked about even by me. Point 3 is… something I haven’t heard much, but I would like to analyze.

So, Elves Met Men, Elves Immediately Thought Themselves Superior:

Now, I am going by strict canon here. People with whom I rp very often don’t portray their muses in this light, but in the original texts of Silmarillion and LotR there is a strong hint of elves as a “superior race”,  and the fact that even most elves thought so. Finrod literally has to put a #NotAllElves, and Finrod hates to admit anything negative about his people at all:

“ We may be "Children of Eru," as ye say in your lore; but we are children to you also: to be loved a little maybe, and yet creatures of less worth, upon whom ye may look down from the height of your power and your knowledge, with a smile, or with pity, or with a shaking of heads.'  'Alas, you speak near the truth,' said Finrod. 'At least of many of my people; but not of all, and certainly not of me”.

Note how the reason for which Elves look down on Men is their mortality:

'I see,' said Andreth, 'that in this ye of the High-elves do not differ from your lesser kindred whom we have met in the world, though they have never dwelt in the Light. All ye Elves deem that we die swiftly by our true kind. That we are brittle and brief, and ye are strong and lasting.”

Men ARE seen by most elves as inferior and weak. I believe all elves thought so, in various degree, but that is beside the point.

 What is more interesting is that Elves discount all of Men’s own tales as wrong. Elves are Right. Humans are Wrong.

I myself think that the reason why Elves are so bent on discounting humans, is not because they are mortal. It is because they have their own stories, and they do not match with the Valar’s.

 The pretty pre-packaged story the elves believe is not what humans think. This is terrible. That is *religious* text. It has to do about the creation of the World, about the very beginning, about what the World is and the part they have in it.

And Men, who too are children of Eru, come in with different stories. With other tales, who speaks that what the Valar said was a gift of Eru is instead a corruption of Melkor.

 *panicked elves screeching*

 In a very… human move, which proves beyond doubt elves and men are indeed related, Elves try to discount humans’ tales and lore. They don’t do it on purpose. But have you ever encountered an article online which goes against something very dear to you? I personally had such an epiphany with GMO, I was very much against them, and it took me a long time to read pro-GMO and anti-GMO articles before I accepted that no, they aren’t harmful.

The same automatic instinct is at work in all elves, but even more so the Eldar, when they are shown a possibility of their core-belief being, well. At least up to debate.

 They insist in particular on mortality vs immortality. Death is a Gift from Eru, they insist. Your tale is wrong to think Melkor would do such a thing! He couldn’t! You must think wrong. After all nobody of you was here, your stories are wrong, accept the Gift for what it is.

 This is an incredible arrogant take. Even Finrod, who is by far the less arrogant among the Eldar, is, at least by canon, adamant that humans were Made to Die and they only believe otherwise because they were envious of the Quendi.

What is more amusing, is that if you really read the Athrabeth, nowhere it said humans did not have the Gift of Men if you see it in the sense of *the fact they had to leave Arda*.

If the Elves had not been so hell-bent in discrediting Men’s lore, there could have been a dozen of possible interpretation that could bridge the two concept, their own and men’s. Just out of the top of my mind:

1.      Men could in origin have left Arda with their bodies, and had the ability to come back once in a while

2.      Men could have had the ability to come and go at will

3.      Men could have had to leave, but been able to communicate with people left on Arda in some way*

*This is my favourite, because it also fit with several real-world tradition.

 The fact is, none of these are things the Valar have told the elves. Which leaves open two possibilities:

1.      The Valar don’t know. Which, considering the Valar have about absolute power over the elves, is frightening

2.      The Valar know and have not told the elves. Also frightening because, what else they know and we haven’t been told?

 This fear, the fear of *the Valar being either wrong, or not knowing things Men knows, or not telling the elves* drives most of the elves attempt to browbeat mankind into accepting *the current form of Death* as The Original One.

 The sad thing is. They succeed.

 Now, let’s take a step back in Men’s History in Middle Earth:

 If we go by the only account we have of human-centric events, in the “Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth” we learn this:

Some say the Disaster happened at the beginning of the history of our people, before any had yet died. The Voice had spoken to us, and we had listened. The Voice said: 'Ye are my children. I have sent you to dwell here. In time ye will inherit all this Earth, but first ye must be children and learn. Call on me and I shall hear; for I am watching over you.' (Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth; “THE TALE OF ADANEL���)

This Voice is Eru’s own voice.

Now this is interesting, because it implies that Eru spoke to Men directly, at least in the beginning. Of course, he gave no particular indication, was of no great use, and did not protect them from Melkor when he came, simply cursing them when they took Melkor, who was useful in the beginning, as a teacher, but this is beside the point.

The point is: Eru spoke to Mankind. And as far as he knows, he never, never spoke to elves directly.

What did Eru taught mankind?

This is what interest me. There is a hint here, of something. There is a hint of a knowledge given to mankind which neither elves nor even VALAR know.

 Now, we know that, by the time the Athrabeth is written, only this feeble hint remains, in a story which for the rest mostly speak of how fallible and generally awful humans are and how they are jealous of Eldar’s gifts, in particular the gift of immortality.

And… this is the point.

By that time, the whole narrative hinged on immortality vs mortality. Which may have *never been the point at all*, but which I think was a more comfortable story for the elves.

 Now, when I read this text the first time, I thought “How funny. Finrod attacks Andreth believes about her people immortality in the origin but he completely gloss over how she believes that once there was a Voice, Eru’s Voice, who spoke *directly to Men*. Uhm. This is not a small thing. It is huge. Eru never speaks directly to elves. In elven’s lore, there is no hint of that.”

 The point is that attacking the whole mortality vs immortality thing is easier. The Elves have an account, BY *gasp* THE VALAR that Men had to die, so to discredit the whole story they grasp on the easiest point.

 And so… Men forget. Men forget what Eru taught them in the beginning.

The Elves make sure that the Edain forget themselves.

But, you may say, what about the Easterlings?

Ah. For them, it is Morgoth who makes sure of it.

 This part is going to be shorter, because well, that Morgoth would do such a thing, is no surprise to anyone:

 “Then we spoke of the Voice. But his face became terrible; for he was angry. 'Fools!' he said. 'That was the Voice of the Dark. It wishes to keep you from me; for it is hungry for you.' Then he went away, and we did not see him for a long time, and without his gifts we were poor. And there came a day when suddenly the Sun's light began to fail, until it was blotted out and a great shadow fell on the world; and all the beasts and birds were afraid. Then he came again, walking through the shadow like a bright fire. ·

We fell upon our faces. 'There are some among you who are still listening to the Voice of the Dark,' he said, 'and therefore It is drawing nearer. Choose now! Ye may have the Dark as Lord, or ye may have Me. But unless ye take Me for Lord and swear to serve Me, I shall depart and leave you; for I have other realms and dwelling places, and I do not need the Earth, nor you.' Then in fear we spoke as he commanded, saying: 'Thou art the Lord; Thee only we will serve. The Voice we abjure and will not hearken to it again.'”

Basically, Morgoth came, and gave a lot of thingies to humans, and humans who were as little children, just awaken and without a real guide (since the Voice basically just told them “figure it out”) followed him and for that Eru cursed them all.

Nice Guy, Eru.

 However, what is of interest here to me is:

 Morgoth doesn’t want Men to listen to the Voice (Eru) because he wants them to follow him.

The Elves don’t want humans to recount what that Voice used to tell them, because they are afraid.

 In the end, Men loses. It is such a breathtaking, enormous loss, the kind of which people who have been subject to imperialism have had. The loss of self, of tradition, the concept that your own stories are wrong and right is only in the tale of the master to be found.

 And here came Numenor.

Numenor, the land of elf-men, whose destruction was fault of Eru, and Eru’s alone, but whose corruption was sewn into its very beginning, for only what was Elven or Elvenlike was great and good for them, and since they were not elves, they were forever inferior, and from that came all that was.

I wonder.

I wonder if Eru didn’t desperately wanted for humans to be… humans. Not elflike half-thing, but HUMANS. Only themselves.

If he did, he must have been so disappointed indeed.

@bydoommastered @alia-andreth @askandreth @thegreatstrongbow @deathlistenstoher 

@artaresto this is what the Wanderer meant when he said Finrod gave a great hurt to his kin!

[joyousspiritfealasse]

“Sweets are good for a temporary reprieve,” Fealasse tilted her head as she studied the human woman curiously.

🫂

@joyousspiritfealasse

"Oof!" Andreth felt the air knocked out of her lungs as the elleth wrapped her arms around her.

"What is going on?"

@joyousspiritfealasse

[irisseireth]

LMNOPQ for the fic ask?

So many letters! Thank you ❤️

L: How many times do you usually revise your fic/chapter before posting?

Two or three times at least, and I like to ask someone else to check it for me as well. Having a good beta reader is important for me.

M: Got any premises on the back burner that you'd care to share?

Oh, so many! One I keep rotating in my mind is a 5 + 1 times Gil-Galad talks to someone else about his dad, plus the one he talks to him. Based on my current brainrot theory of Gil-Galad being Andreth and Aegnor's secret child. I care about Gil-Galad a lot, no matter his parentage, but this adds so many layers to his character and his story.

N: Is there a fic you wish someone else would write (or finish) for you?

Oh yeah, a fic I started back in 2007? 2008? And I haven't touched since 2017. It has 14 published chapters and 3 more in drafts, but I just don't have the muse for it anymore.

O: How do you begin a story—with the plot, or the characters?

Usually with a particular concept, an idea, or situation I want to put my blorbos in.

P: Are you what George R. R. Martin would call an "architect" or a "gardener"? (How much do you plan in advance, versus letting the storu unfold as you go?)

I think I'm a bit of both, but mainly an architect. If I don't have a general idea of the plot, I am much more less likely to finish something. This is why I jot down all the ideas before I start writing, just so I have a plan of where I want the story to go. But I do sometimes end up changing the plan, as the story grows and I change my mind on which characters I'll need for a particular scene, or think of something I want to include. So a bit of both, but mainly an architect.

Q: How do you feel about collaborations?

I'm open to them! @montalais is trying to get me to fanfiction our rp threads, so if we get around to doing that it will be my first collaborative fic. We also started drafting a Boromir lives!AU years ago but we haven't worked on it for a long time.

Fanfic Ask Game

[askandreth]

Rules

This is a sideblog. I will like and follow from @irisseireth .

This should go without saying but at least when interacting ooc, be nice and I'll do the same.

On that note, Andreth may not always be happy or friendly to every new character she interacts with. Doesn't mean I have anything against you personally, or against your character.

Related, if we have never interacted before and you want to get something going, I prefer being approached via DM first, even if you just say hi and that you'd like to write together. I'll ask what you have in mind and we'll take it from there. I'm always up for plotting.

Characters that haven't interacted with Andreth in canon are very much appreciated and encouraged, but I appreciate a bit of previous plotting, or at least a general idea.

This is an ask blog, so asks on and off anon are welcome, I'll try to answer in character most of the time.

Andreth is the main muse here. Her siblings on request only.

I don't do ships that aren't Aegnor. I headcanon Andreth as asexual with only one exception. But I welcome any other sort of interaction.

On a related note I'm over 21, so even if I'm not planning on writing NSFW, it might happen, so be warned. I will tag appropriately.

I will tag most common triggers but if there's anything specific you would like tagged, let me know.

I don't care about formatting or icons. I'm mostly on mobile and I won't see it, or it will make it bothersome. If it works for you, though, go ahead. I don't require them, enthusiasm about the character and a willingness to have fun are more important to me.

I don't care about reply speed either. If I message you it will be out of a genuine desire to share something, not to urge you to reply. Take all the time you need, or drop threads if you aren't feeling them anymore, I will understand.

I'm absolutely open to duplicates. Put Andreth in an Aegnor sandwich.

I'm super happy to get DMs to discuss our characters, plots, or anything else related to this blog, so feel free to approach me, even if you're not a RP blog. Be nice about it, that's all I ask.

Please don't reblog RP threads. Asks (as long as they arent RP threads), headcanons and any other posts are OK to reblog, unless otherwise tagged.

[irisseireth]

8 17 21 silm asks please!

8. Best m/m ship?

I feel like I can't not say Beleg/Túrin, but it has all the ingredients to be a great ship: mutual affection and respect, plenty of dramatic moments, even a tragic ending.

I used to be into Russingon, I just don't like a lot of the fandom interpretations anymore, especially where Fingon is concerned. I like it more as something that happened in Aman, then Fingon broke it after what happened with Fëanor taking out his sword to Fingolfin. It adds so many delicious layers of drama to all the First Age if they aren't together anymore.

I also like Finrod with various Edain: Bëor, Barahir... poor fandom bicycle Finrod.

17. Favourite AU setting?

I don't tend to go big with AUs because I like the setting too much. That said, I have written modern!AU Andreth on my RP blog, and I'm working on a Locked Tomb-inspired AU too.

For any ship, the Pacific Rim!AU is the best setting though. I promise.

21. Saddest moment?

Oh wow what a difficult choice from a book ripe with absolutely heartbreaking moments. I have to say the reunion between Húrin and Morwen, when all is lost. And Fingon's death in the Nirnaeth, he deserved better.

Silmarillion asks

[askandreth]

//Sorry everyone I’m on semi hiatus at the moment, I have a few things going on in my life, and also my top writing priority is finishing a chapter for a fanfic I have been writing since 2011. And haven’t updated since last year. Once I get that out of the way and sort my life out I’ll be back. I might post a few things here and there but no continuous activity for the moment.

However it is absolutely ok to send me asks or message me if you have an idea for a rp with Andreth or if you just want to send me a meme! I’ll get to those as soon as I can, and I do check my messages pretty much every day so feel free to reach out.

Until we read each other again!

[askandreth]

Closed RP || After the debate // @descendantsoffinwe

Several weeks had passed after the debate with Finrod, but Andreth had not been able to forget his words, which still resounded in the back of her mind like an echo. She could not, would not forget what he had said. They could have run away together, they could have had a life. They could have been happy, in the midst of that never ending war, they could have found some light.

It had been her brother who had set her into motion, however. When Bregor had announced he would be heading to the frontline, to Dorthonion, to bring reinforcements, Andreth had not taken long to think of an excuse to accompany him.

'I have several books to return to lord Angrod,' she had said to her father, and felt terrible for lying to him. Lord Boromir had only recently taken over the leadership from his late father, and had been too busy to give this too much thought. He had nodded absentmindedly, and had only asked her to return to Ladros with the wounded and the soldiers on leave.

Her aunt had been another matter entirely. Adanel neared her seventieth birthday, but her wits were as sharp as ever.

'You wish to see him.' it had not been a question. And even if Andreth herself had recently passed her fourty-eighth birthday, she had felt intimidated, suddenly naked under her aunt's glance.

'Yes.' she had said. No further clarification had been needed, for Adanel understood her heart all too well. She knew that when Andreth set her heart on something, there was no force in Arda capable of making her change her mind. And apparently also understood the need to do something, to take action, all too well.

Bregor had seemed oblivious. Long gone were the days when he teased her incessantly about her friendship with lord Aegnor. They had both been young then, full of hope and of dreams of this war to end... But her brother was a man grown now, with children and grandchildren of his own. Still he remained at the height of his power, a skilled fighter he was, a worthy heir to the House of Bëor. Andreth loved her brother dearly, and it pained her not being able to share what she carried in her heart, that she had kept a secret for so long.

It was harder and harder to not confide in her brother, the closer they got to the Elven fortress. She wondered what she would do, how she would approach the subject. She worried about his reaction too, and had it been any other, she would have seeked her brother's advice. But she did not think Bregor would know much about Elven customs.

Andreth was quite accustomed to the company of soldiers and men at arms, for her home in her grandfather's castle had always been a military fortress first and the seat of her house second. She did not mind the sleeping in the rough, or the camp food. Still, she was glad to reach the castle all the same. Both siblings dismounted and were welcomed by Angrod, who by the looks of it had been waiting a while, as he looked more impatient than usual. They exchanged the customary courtesies, while Andreth's eyes scanned the fair faces around her. Where was he?

[askandreth]

About:

Andreth Saelind

House of Bëor

Age: 30 (can change as required by SL)

Dark hair, grey eyes

Serious/Parody RP

Extensive knowledge of the Legendarium

Askbox open

Non native English speaker

FC: Catriona Balfe

[askandreth]

✔: What got me into roleplaying

The year was 2012. I was finishing my semester abroad at uni, and I was boooooored because I had finished my exams. Twitter RP was starting to become a thing, and I was writing (and still am!) a fic with Gil-galad as the protagonist (love the guy). I lurked around the few Tolkien RP accounts for a few days before making my own.

I was there for a year and a half, made some great friends, but then the squad fell apart and I ended up quitting because I had stuff going on in my life and the environment on Twitter was becoming quite toxic.

Fast forward 4 years, and talking to some of my friends from back then, we decided to have another go. I initially only got Gil-galad, but then found someone who had an Aegnor, and I just had to make an Andreth. That’s the account linked to this blog.

As to how I ended up on Tumblr, credit goes to  @easterlingwanderer, his mun told me I’d make a fantastic Andreth, and as I was already playing her on Twitter, it didn’t take much convincing to make this blog!

[askandreth]

👥 What is your favorite experience together as mun and muse?

Both the mun and muse what we enjoy most is the storytelling.

For the muse because it is a huge part of who she is and how she approaches the world. She is a very curuous and inquisitive person, and will ask a thousand questions. She enjoys putting these stories in context, analyzing them and using them as a way to connect with the world around her. I also have  aheadcanon that Bëorian lore relied largely on oral transmission, and she and other wisewomen like her were renowned because they put those tales in writing, organized and structured them and made sense of them. Andreth likes passing on these stories, as well as having people tell her about other peoples and other lands.

For the mun it is a great writing exercise to come up with these stories, to find tales that fit with the way I see the Bëorians (largely inspired by my own cultural inheritance and mythology). It is great fun to write her in her element, and a fantastic opportunity for characterization.

We would also like to add that meeting so many great people is one of the best things of rp! Both having Andreth interact with their characters, and talking about the Legendarium with so many amazing people!