#and this is very entertaining to me because by nature the priest is male etc

[rotzaprachim]

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[australian-desi]

Asur - Review/Reaction

Okay so I loved it! This show has changed me as a person somehow. But honestly speaking it was fucked (some people said more fucked than sacred games but I dont watch that so I dont have a reference). The background of Hindu mythology was used amazingly and holy shit the actors. Guys the actors need a round of applause coz they were simply amazing. I’m still shaking after watching the last episode I literally finished the show in 1.5 days so like safe to say I was hooked. I would also like to say that the show itself was very well paced, at no point did I think that the story was going too slow or too fast, everything was perfectly timed and perfectly revealed. I will be cutting this post for a more in-depth review - and after the cut everything are 

Also before you guys watch - this show is very dark - it depicts suicidal tendencies, gory murders and gruesome scenes - things that will make you lowkey vomit (I have a pretty high tolerance for these things so I was fine, but just in case you aren’t it’s good to know coz they spring those up on you) 

SPOILLLLERRRRSSSSS

Actors/Characters: 

Arshad Warsi as Dhananjay ‘DJ’ Rajpoot: This is the first time I’ve seen Arshad Warsi in a non-comic role, and I was honestly truly blown away. He was simply amazing. Now coming to character. The main message of this show was that ‘evil lives in all of us’. But the way they revealed it was quite phenomenal. DJ is shown to be the ‘innocent’ ‘good guy’ and how is was wrongfully framed for his wife’s murder, but is still working to find the actual serial killer - not because to save himself, but in order to save other people. It is then shown, that he had done something ‘bad’ ‘immoral’ and ‘wrong’ in his life - 10 years ago he caused a 15-year-old to go to jail rather than a juvenile detention centre for the murder of his father. He did this by faking his birth certificate and forging evidence - since there was no evidence to connect the child to the murder (but the audience knows that he did it). Thus, begins the game for his repentence. 

Barun Sobti as Nikhil Nair: So here’s the ting - I genuinely forget how good of an actor our boi is (don’t blame me I’ve spent the last 8 years, watching him go “what the” and “Khushi Kumari Gupta”, throwing anger fits and tantrums), but holy shit I was blown away. Barun has this ability to make his audience feel every emotion he’s going through - anger, sadness, despair, happiness, joy, relief - everything, he is a brilliant actor. Nikhil was an amazing character. He was an all-in-all protagonist. He had a loving relationship with his wife and a daughter that he loved very much. However, when he is kidnapped by the serial killer himself - he is given an option - to either let his wife and kid die, or become an accomplice to murder, where he meticulously plans the murder and the killer goes and does the job. He chooses the latter, thus, blurring the line between good and bad. It is also interesting considering the man that saved lives ended up taking them. The final test for him is when in order to save three hostages, he is asked to sacrifice his daughter. He does that and it is shown that due to the trauma they have faced, one of the hostages shoots the other, making Nikhil regret his decision instantly - the killer thus proving his point, human nature is evil, that even the good turn to evil in hardship. Nikhil blames DJ’s deeds for his daughter’s death, and Naina leaves him, blaming him for their daughter’s death. 

Ridhi Dogra as Nusrat Saeed: Nusrat is shown to be the ex-gf/ex-love etc. of Nikhil, before he left CBI without telling her about where he was going and for how long. In all these years she has been unable to move on from him and has replaced her love life with work as a forensics expert. She is shown to be very talented in her job and is shown to have a friendly relationship with everyone - although, in a hallucination, Nikhil is shown to feel guilty for what he did to her and deep down does love her, but loves his wife more 

Anupriya Goenka as Naina Nair: Naina is shown to be a doting mother, and a loving wife, who has issues that although her husband loves her very much, wants to rejoin the CBI, even if he has to leave her for it. She ends up going to him and is shown to be a very talented software engineer working in cyber-security. She then ends up helping the CBI in order catch the killer 

Vishesh Bansal as 15-year-old Shubh Joshi: This kid holy shit. I watched him in IPPKND as Aarav and some other serials here and there, but man he blew me away. Like I was sitting there shook half the time as to how can someone be this talented. Now Shubh Joshi was who this story was about - the asura, the rakshas, the one who was awaiting for Vishnu to return on this Earth to vanquish him. When Shubh’s mother was pregnant with him, his father the head priest wanted a ‘devta-like putra’ he wanted a god on the form of the Earth to the point, he made his kundli in advance and did not allow for his wife to give birth until the right month. He failed, as his wife slipped down the stairs, and ended up giving birth 2 days before he wanted her to. She gave birth in the month in which demons were said to be born. Thus, Shubh turned out to be extraordinary - he learnt how to walk at 2 days old, he was able to read the scriptures by the time he was 3, and had an IQ of above 160. His dad used to curse him, beat him, and call him an ‘asur’ to the point he started believing it. When his grandfather took him to the psychologist - he was diagnosed with autism, causing him to not have the same social skills and unable to connect with others as well as other kids. His father’s abuse caused his brain to become extremely violent, and it is then shown that he goes to a skeleton and breaks its index finger, then finding a dog and burning it alive, with no emotion. At 15 he poisons his father causing his father to fall into the river to his death - he drops the lota in which he was poisoning him with getting rid of the evidence. However, DJ sees this, and sees no remorse for his father’s death, he seems unaffected by it, and continues on his day as normal. DJ then fakes evidence and his birth report - causing him to go to jail rather than receive therapy and counselling for a better future. In jail he becomes a leader - he is able to convince people to let the evil in them take over the good because that’s what human tendency is. It is what we are meant to do and that those who do not entertain the evil in them, deserve to die. 

Amey Wagh as present-day Shubh Joshi: Gonna say it here - A+ casting. He looks exactly how you would expect Shubh Joshi to look when he is older. So Shubh Joshi is now a serial killer - who kills people from the horoscope of greatness, people who do good deeds - he does this to send a message to Vishnu to come on earth and now thinks of himself to be mighty and powerful as an asur should be. He is shown to now have a huge following to the point where Nikhil and DJ all think of him to look different, but he instead, is their coworker, Rasool Sheikh the hacker in the CBI. As he is quiet and aloof, no one suspects him, and thus, he is able to conduct these murders with absolute precision of planning. When Lolark finds out that he is the real Shubh, he ends up killing him, right after his child’s death and the CBI arrest the wrong Shubh who was shown to be Kesari - the first follower of Shubh in jail. The show ends when Shubh looks deep into DJ’s eyes reminding him of his 15-year-old self, causing DJ to realise he is indeed the real Shubh. 

The rest of the cast and crew were equally amazing but I just mentioned the main ones otherwise we’ll be here for days 

Things I liked: 

I loved the use of Hindu mythology, they also narrated some stories in Shubh’s POV questioning whether the gods were always right - was Vishnu right into tricking the asur’s into their death for no reason, was Krishna right, knowing about the war and not being able to stop it? 

Also loved how in depth the characters were - Shubh was horrible in what he did, but by writing in a way that if the things that happened to him hadn’t had happened owing to his developmental disorder he would’ve been a ‘good’ person. 

The fact that it wasn’t Shubh’s complete fault that he thought this way, and the fact he had autism + the system really failing him showed us that not all bad people are born bad - sometimes situations make them that way. And some don’t even know the difference between the right and wrong choice - what if some people do truly think evil is bad. 

I loved the concept of the main protagonists being good people but being pushed to embrace the evil - especially when Nikhil, who thought he did a good deed by saving the hostages to prove to Shubh that inherently good people do truly exist and he sees one of the hostages kill the other - truly shakes this belief. It shows that even after being forced to accomplice to murders - he still had hope, a hope that was brutally crushed 

I loved the cast as well, they all had good chemistry and Barun and Arshad were amazing. 

Things I disliked: 

The female characters weren’t explored at all. Nusrat’s whole arc revolved around Nikhil and finding the killer’s. There were some episodes where she wasn’t even there. And a lot of her character was an accessory to Nikhil���s and DJ’s characters. On the other hand, Naina’s character was only a mother and a wife. In fact she joins the CBI to help them find her husband, she isn’t even leading the investigation or anything. Also in the first half of the show she was truly very annoying and just deserved better in general rather than just being the parallel love interest. They should’ve done more with the female characters. What was stopping them from being as brilliant or as great as the male characters. Nikhil and DJ were described as geniuses and out of this world. While Nusrat just helped. 

The amount of Shuddh hindi - I know he’s a pandit’s son and his whole thing is religion he will talk in Shuddh hindi. But honestly, I wish they gave english translations or show it with pictures or something else coz it was very very very hard for me to understand some things and I lost a lot of context 

That is all - enjoy this review hopefully I didn’t spoil the whole show (I definitely did), and have a great day

[heart-of-vecna]

Tell me about Vecna and your D&D character!

INHALES i’m sorry i’m going to info dump because I love my AWFUL SON

Stuff about awful terrible Haothahvun Greyless and his equally awful patron Vecna 

(art by the wonderful @42point195kilometres​ )

Haothahvun Greyless is a... humorously mislead man. 

[Basic Info: Haothahvun Greyless - (Trans)Male Human Neutral Evil Cleric, ~28, 5′07″ / 124 lbs]

He grew up under the name Lili Greyless in a small village to a retired adventurer and his wife, and lived a relatively mundane life as a small rural farm village girl until the age of 9, when a wizard Haothahvun’s father had thwarted in his humble adventures came back to try to find revenge on about the only member of the party who he could find. This wizard wasn’t anyone really noteworthy, but in trying to get to Haothahvun’s father he did manage to get his hands on Haothahvun and his younger brother  - leading to his brother’s death, and to the magical scar on the right side of his body that left him mostly blind in his right eye. Needless to say, the whole event was severely traumatizing, and Haothahvun holed himself up in his house until he was in his late teens and his parents managed to find him a apprenticeship with a traveling bookbinder. 

Haothahvun spent maybe two years with this man before hopping from one magic or scholarly-related apprenticeship to another, eventually going by his father’s name of Haothahvun and naming himself Haothahvun Greyless II. Through this, he wound up in a decent sized city as the apprentice of a alchemist who, upon seeing Haothahvun’s interest and dedication to learning, introduced him to a little ‘group’ he was a part of. For the first four-five years in this little ‘group’, Greyless was simply told it was a cult or group dedicated to learning and to old, forgotten knowledge. It wasn’t until he committed his first sacrifice as his initiation that he found out that there was a deeper layer to the cult, and that that cult worshiped Vecna. The cult had become somewhat of a family for Haothahvun, and having nowhere else to go and really  nothing else to do he accepted his initiation.

And thus began Haothahvun’s spiraling journey into obsession. Haothahvun took his duties as a cultist very seriously, as he did his other jobs, but the further he learned and researched his patron the more curious and interested he became. After the death of the previous priest-in-training, Haothahvun managed to secure the position for himself, and with his very devoted nature to the task was given the chance to become one of few more ‘permanent’ priests to the city’s hidden temple. Inevitably, being the sort of dumbass he is, his infatuation with Vecna was uncovered because he was playing chicken with some other cultists with a Circle of Truth, and through a series of questions about Haothahvun’s probably non-existent love life his fellow cultists awkwardly came to the understanding that Haothahvun definitely has the hots for their lich god. A great secret to learn if using it also wasn’t going to possibly evoke your god’s wrath. Nobody teased him about it again out of fear of being smited and Haothahvun definitely was 3 seconds from lighting himself on fire.

This has always been the sort of point where my intention has always been to leave the actual relationship / etc with Vecna up to the DM but since he’s not IN a campaign we’ll just slap down my shitty HCs

It has always been my idea at this point that while Vecna was fully aware of Haothahvun (of course, as a actual priest of his), he had never paid a ton of attention - why would he? But that fact undoubtably was rather surprising, and for the better or the worse drew Vecna’s attention. Haothahvun’s patron wasn’t pleased, but despite berating him (more for letting people discover that than anything), he didn’t tell Haothahvun to stop, or not to, or really anything along those lines. So, in true perhaps overly optimistic and/or naive fashion, Haothahvun absolutely just let his infatuation run rampant. Because nothing is safer than being madly in love with your evil undead god. 

Haothahvun goes out of his way to dig up bits of magic and important political secrets to give Vecna as sort of ‘gifts’, along with various things that remind Haothahvun of his patron (bits of rare black stones, a snake skull made of gold, etc.) Vecna isn’t... pleased, but is curious, because it’s not very often someone comes to him with what seems like actual, genuine interest or infatuation. Not looking for power, not playing games, not sidling up just for benefits, not. Haothahvun genuinely, stupidly, foolishly, seems to actually be in love with him. And Vecna is fucking baffled by how absolutely out of his mind Haothahvun seems to be, but at the same time is mildly entertained by how doggedly loyal Haothahvun is. 

I have always imagined, because I can do whatever I want and nobody can stop me, that Vecna entertains Haothahvun’s rather pitiful attempts at courting him. He’s rather curious how far this mortal will go to try to win his actual affections. Maybe part of him is curious what, if anything, could even work - besides, it’s not like he ever had any sort of romantic affairs when he’d been alive. His one attempt at marriage ended when the woman refused him and he slaughtered her whole family in front of her (canonically). And Haothahvun keeps trying, and keeps his attention, and keeps making his way further along in the priest hierarchy while he’s at it on his own accord, maybe in hopes of showing his devotion. 

Vecna is the one who calls him Greyless, which becomes the name Haothahvun holds most dear to himself, even if all his other acquaintances still call him ‘Haothahvun’.

The ultimate fate of Greyless and his infatuation I haven’t decided on. On one hand, I would like to imagine a story where Greyless manages to win his patron’s interest to any degree. Greyless, though somewhat of a optimistic idiot at times, is a very bright man, and a undyingly loyal servant, and while Vecna is no stranger to backstabbing whoever he needs to when they’ve lost their use and keeping people at arm’s length, Greyless is a peculiar anomaly that he perhaps, to his own chagrin, finds interesting. I would also like to imagine Vecna as sometimes that overly exuberant villain who is a bit over-the-top with how he appreciates his consorts, where Greyless ends up stationed out at one of his fortresses and is doted on in the secret privacy of Vecna’s domains. 

I also absolutely accept the world where Vecna just pushes Greyless around, because no matter how cruel he is to him Greyless will come back with the same stupid, foolish adoration and love as he did before. There is probably nothing that will steer Greyless away, because he’s hopelessly and very unhealthily obsessed and has no idea of how to cope with it.

Or maybe a mix of both of those.

Regardless,  the TLD i’m so sorry for the info dump is -

Haothathvun is a big dumb gay idiot who really wants his god to notice him and maybe love/sleep with him, and Vecna is really, really baffled at what the ever loving fuck is wrong with this kid but entertained enough to see how many hoops Haothahvun is willing to jump through for him.

[magdaleneswift-blog]

MEN EXPLAIN INFALLIBILITY TO ME

To mangle a Paul Harvey story:

In the beginning of our country our ‘forefathers’ loved Almanacs.  Often families would have only a Bible and an almanac in their homes.  So an aspiring young writer decided to make some money and write – an almanac.  He found a printer who was willing to publish it; but the printer was skeptical.  The market was pretty well saturated and he was booked publishing other almanacs.  He told the writer that if he wanted to write an almanac it would have to be done early to get the jump on the others, especially as he was already booked printing all the others.  He gave the writer a very strict deadline. The writer immediately got to work.  But as he is frantically writing, he is feeling sicker and sicker and sicker.  Finally with the printer’s copy boy standing ready, he finishes the work and prepares to crawl into bed and be thoroughly sick.  He is just nodding off to sleep, when he hears a knock at the door.  It is the printer’s copy boy.  He said he hates to interrupt as he knows the writer is not feeling well, but his boss had sent him back to tell him that he had forgotten the weather forecasts for June. The writer replies that he doesn’t care what the weather forecast is in June.  Print what you want.  What the writer didn’t plan on was that the printer had a warped sense of humor.  The printer put down that the weather in June would be “snow.”  What neither of them planned on was that God has an even more warped sense of humor and some things are just too good to pass up.  The weather in June that year was – snow. Strangely enough, out of all the almanacs published in the country, his was the only one that correctly predicted snow that summer.  Overnight, he became known as the premier weather forecaster in the nation. – The Old Farmer’s Almanac. The year 1816 is known as the Year Without a Summer (also the Poverty Year, the Summer that Never Was, Year There Was No Summer, and Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death), because of severe climate abnormalities that caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1.3 °F).This resulted in major food shortages across the Northern Hemisphere. Evidence suggests that the anomaly was predominantly a volcanic winter event caused by the massive 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora in the Dutch East Indies.

The vatican has declared that when officially speaking of church doctrine, they are infallible.   This doctrine was defined dogmatically in the First Vatican Council of 1869–1870, but had been defended before that, existing already in medieval theology and being the majority opinion at the time of the Counter-Reformation. You can see from the time line that the doctrine was declared AFTER the vatican Galileo debacle.  The Church’s position is that the Holy Spirit will never allow the church to say something wrong.  

They forgot God’s warped sense of humor and this concept is even more too good to pass up than the first example.  They are correct in that point, but it isn’t carried out how they planned.

Benne dick’s statement comparing pedophiles to women priests while continuing the practice of promoting pedophiles is the prime example of a Holy Spirit correction.  It cannot be possible to come up with a statement that more clearly spotlights the depravity of the doctrine of male only priests and the total ludicrousness of the concept of papal infallibility.

The vatican assumes it has a monopoly on messages from the Holy Spirit.  According to Benne dick what is the source of this knowledge – their penises.  The vatican must consider a penis a radio antenna that lets them receive broadcasts from the Almighty.  Or the other option – The early Greek theologians had a fancy term – Logos.  It is often translated as “Word” – In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God.  The term actually means more God’s entire thought process. So if not an antenna – they consider their penises conduits that let them read God’s entire thought process.

The previous entity in possession is famous for his paraphrasing of Surak – God is too great for humanity to understand fully.  The scary thing is this appears to have been a shocking revelation in theological circles – rather than the obvious – duh!  It apparently looked between its legs and discovered something more wondrous than all the stars in heaven.

Contrast this with the fact the Catholic Church is in a unique position to determine more about the nature of God than any other religion by nature of its sheer mass and organizational structure.  The Church has a long history of investigation and cross cultural error checking.  They have chosen to ignore this.

It is the nature of humanity that we are like the blind men trying to understand the elephant.  Each one feels a small part of the animal and thinks he understands the whole creature.  The vatican stubbornly looks at one small part and insists that it has sole knowledge of the whole to ridiculous results.  This analogy is made even more pointed by the fact the elephants and many herd animals are matriarchal societies.  The main task of the alpha male elephant is to protect the females from the lesser males and the offspring from predators, not prey on the offspring and sacrifice the females to save their own necks.

They forget the other voices outside the vatican clearly seeing other parts.  They rejected the science of Galileo and the contributions of other scientists.  Martin Luther screamed in rage that they were missing  that their narrow view was beneficial to only a small subset of the population and tried to wake them up.  His dream of reforming the Church eventually happened, but not before a lot of blood was shed. Mohamed, poorly tutored by believers on the fringes of Jewish and Christian beliefs, got part of the message and created another voice.

I prefer the analogies from Star Trek (the original series) and the “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” and the concept of the Bajoran Prophets from Star Trek Deep Space Nine.  I see reality itself as the physical manifestation of God’s thought process.  

The concept was started in TOS with the alien species trying to understand the concept of “Good” and “Evil” that the human records were discussing.  They gave the crew members the “honor” of participating in the experiment. Kirk and  Spock were kidnapped and alien recreations of  Abraham Lincoln, and Surek of Vulcan  - the forces of good were placed in a habitat along with an equal number of aliens representing the forces of evil.  This allowed the aliens to examine the behavior. (I miss Father Cremoni and his Gospels according to Star Trek.)  They needed the example to understand the concept.  In the end, Good triumphed because by its nature, it put the well being of all before the well being of the individual.  The evil forces fled in self preservation.  Good and evil were shown not to be inherent in the category of the individual but in the choices they made.

The concept was continued

We have Pope Open Mouth Insert Foot, who when challenged about pedophilic priests preying on children compared women who want to become priests to pedophiles.   How DARE he make a comparison between women wanting to dedicate their lives to God and vile predators? I supposed he should be thanked for so clearly stating in unmistakable terms the god he is really interested in worshipping. The true Church is our children.  The previous ‘pope’ was willing to sacrifice the good of the church so he could entertain his dick.

From the recent articles on pedophile priests in the Philadelphia Inquiry, I see that at least the hierarchy of the Philadelphia Archdiocese is at it again. To make matters worse, at least one priest wrote back and tried to deflect responsibility and shift blame by raising the abortion banner.  Was he defending life or bewailing the loss of potential victims? I guess mea culpa does not apply to anyone wearing a Roman collar.  How does that response relate to preparation for making a good Confession by first admitting fault?  Apparently, acknowledgement of guilt applies only to the Laity.

I think they forget that Jesus always led by example.

The whole behavior of the Church hierarchy reminds me of a study done recently on male aggression.

Researchers noted the behavior of both male and female toddlers in playpens and how they tried to escape from them.  As expected, the boy babies started grabbing the sides and shaking them to escape, while the girl babies immediately started in with "Mommy!  Mommy! Mommy!  Mommy! ......... Mommy!  Mommy! Etc."  until the exasperated mothers lifted them from the pens.  The researchers congratulated themselves on proving the aggression of male babies (and their supposed superiority) until it dawned on them which gender was actually getting out.

It is pathetic to watch men more than 50 years older than toddlers using the same counterproductive mindset with ludicrous results.  What is worse, they consider this type of thinking a virtue.

Some examples:

Isaac Newton and Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz simultaneously and independently discovered calculus in England and Germany.  Rather than combining the best of both works to advance studies of area, volume, maximums, minimums, velocity and acceleration, scientists wasted 50 years arguing over who invented the mathematics first.

The Native American Ghost Dancers of Wounded Knee believed their dance would bring back the buffalo and their magic shirts would stop bullets.  The soldiers, with their right of arms, slaughtered them all, men, women, and infants for daring to defy the 'Christian' society.

When Benjamin Franklin invented the lightning rod, he explained the importance of the pointed end that allows electrons to 'bleed' into the atmosphere and reduce the number of lightning bolts.  (We proved this mathematically in physics class.)  Instead, the British insisted on using ball ends on their lighting rods and ringing church bells to scare away the lightening because since Franklin was a revolutionary, he couldn't possibly be right.

I am disgusted working for male bosses convinced that if they yell loud enough, the laws of physics don't apply to them.  (If you scream loud enough, you can hold up several tons of soil, parking lot and cars by putting a piece of plastic over it.  This from a PE licensed in two states.)

At an ASCE meeting a member stated that he knows of several of male drivers convinced that since they were big athletes in high school, even if that was more than 30 years ago, they don't need to wear seat belts because their reflexes and eye sight are so good, they can avoid car accidents.

The simple conclusion is that men are brain damaged. In all of my life, I have not seen a more dangerous mental  handicap than the male ego.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry reading a lot of laws where governing bodies believe they can legislate away the laws of physics and mathematics by their belief that if they say so it is.  

The most horrific example is World War I, in which the upper class twits slaughtered their countrymen by the thousands by having them charge machine guns.  We had proven the old Napoleonic techniques did not work with modern armament in the Civil War, but as the US was considered a backward colony, the lessons went unheeded.  The slaughter did prove effective in stopping the German machine gunners, however; as they were so sickened by the slaughter that they had mental breakdowns.

The most appalling examples are when this might makes right thinking and if I say so it is thinking is used by religious leaders.

Too many so called religious people seem to believe that if you are a member of the magic group, you are allowed to kill anyone you want.  A recent news article had the Roman Catholic couple believing that since they were Roman Catholic, they could declare open season on Jehovah Witness.  The KKK also believed their religion gave them the right to murder whomever they wanted.

You have those few Muslim extremists and some Christians whose actions seem to indicate that the whole basis of their religion is "If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, blow it up.  If it is female, beat it." Do they believe their theology so weak that no one will believe it unless forced by violence? Verily I say until you.  I don't care what you call yourself; that is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac or Moses, but the god of Cain, the Lord of the Flies, or the god of the male chimpanzee.  (I call this worshipping their dicks.) If you want to prove you are better than the animals, ACT LIKE IT.  

Now remember, men think this mindset is a virtue, so St. Paul is right when he tells wives to submit to their husbands.  It certainly does no good to reason with them when they are in this state; you have a better chance of an intelligent conversation with your dog.  You are better off waiting until they are rational, then making them see reason.

Another benefit to that statement of the current pope has been the opportunity to open a dialog with a women priest down in the Philadelphia area.  She said that the Vatican did a study in the 70's that proved the bible does not contain anything that would bar women from being priests.  I would love to obtain a copy of this document.  I am sure it exists as it is obvious from reading the Bible that it is true.  Counter arguments from the church sound as easy to refute as the KKK's claim that Genesis says that Negroes should be slaves.

It has been scientifically proven that when you gather a group of people together, the IQ of the group drops to the IQ of the dumbest member.  What I want to know is why do we always follow the lead and policy of the bottom 10% of the population?

It has also been said that the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. I say that the faith of the Roman Catholic Church is too important to be left in the hands of senile old men who are too busy worshipping their dicks to worship God.  

All my life, I have been stuck cleaning up other peoples' messes and have seen that it usually takes a woman to clean house.