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It'd be fun to have a villain who doesn't yet know that Sonic is the most uncorruptible little guy and they want to use him for their evil deeds or whatever and try to force him to work for them or manipulate him somehow.
They would get the upper hand at some point obviously but would lose think the end and come to some conclusions about Sonic. I wonder what other character such a villain would turn to. I'm not sure but it sure would be fun if it was Metal Sonic
#lmaooo i just imagined eggman and some other guy fighting over metal#like i don't want them to be like with starline. where they're partners first or whatever i want an independent guy who#knows that they wanna do with themselves#and they decide to get sonic (Eggman would be pissed) and them metal (Eggman would be pissed)#funni#sorry im really just writing tt apprentice I NEED IT I NEEEED IT#i love thinking about scenarios
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Like how these tweets are like trying to suggest Metal permanently leaving Eggman and becoming his own character separate from him but are instead emphasizing the reasons why I love that he isn't lol
Yeah Sonic is all about freedom and positivity. He's a light in dark times, a free spirit that has no master except for the wind that blows free, loves seeing the world and adventure. Meanwhile Metal is trapped under a master and fueled by hate and the desire to kill Sonic. Programmed by Eggman and makes for a bleak existence of constantly trying to prove himself as the worthy superior version Eggman created him to be.
Eggman wants Metal to be like Sonic to rival him but he will never make him exactly the same because he's missing the most important parts that make Sonic, Sonic. All Metal has got is hate and the desire to kill and prove himself. He's a cold killing machine with no freedom, programmed and controlled by Eggman. Unlike Sonic, he has a master that owns him and decides on his entire existence and freedom.
He lacks Sonic's soul, his positive passion and his freedom and he'll never have it, Eggman won't let him. He has tried to break free from that to do his own thing beyond his lines of code a couple of times to do his thing his way, which actually makes him closer to Sonic in an albeit twisted violent way- but was punished by Eggman and went under more restrictions to restore, force, loyalty and obedience.
And bringing Eggman having a clear new favorite into this can set a perfect example of what happens to even his most boasted prized creations when he's either finished or replaces them with another he finds better/most useful in that moment. Metal feeling hatred and jealousy towards other creations but still being unable to break free from Eggman is more interesting than being treated as an equal or betraying him.
He doesn't have a choice. He can be as pissed and jealous as he wants for not being praised and valued the way he was before but he still has to live under Eggman and serve him. Which can turn into working extra hard to try to please him too and Eggman would love and encourage it but never give him the reward of his full approval and praise, so it's neverending game. It's another way to get more good use out of him.
Eggman is exactly the kind of bastard to highly praise his newest favorite toy and specifically emphasize it in front of him and act like he's forgotten about him in comparison to get that reaction and drive out of him. It sets an example of how Eggman's praising of his creations always comes from a place of ego and self praise as their creator and has the interesting concept of him weaponizing praise.
In TMoStH he talks of programming creations with life like personalities and a bounty so they compete for his approval and a reward. This would be very useful with one of his most prized creations like Metal. But then he'd never grant it to keep him endlessly seeking it, another objective that keeps him under his control. He can't break free so he tries to please him to at least be treated better but can't even get that.
I'd love for them to explore it but without having him permanently betray and break free. Because Metal isn't as lucky as the ones that got away, they very rarely do get lucky enough like Omega. Hell, Gamma had to kill his own brothers and die to be free. If you keep letting his creations get away it'd water it down. If you let Metal stay under him with these feelings then fuck man the drama the tragedy, it's so compelling.
#got notified of this via twt notifs but gave me fun thoughts#dr eggman#eggman#dr robotnik#dr. eggman#metal sonic#my post#eggdaddy and metal SONic
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You know what I think is interesting? Is how some people portray the Sonic robot characters as being the logical ones. And I'm talking like, Metal Sonic having these fully well thought out plans that he executes perfectly and how every hit is precise, how Omega would do anything to accomplish his goals and would do things he deems the greater good (a comic I remember seeing about Rouge making a sacrifice and telling Omega to hold Shadow back) and there is absolutely nothing wrong with this. This is a fair. I love seeing this.
But the interesting bit is the 'logical' robots are probably some of the most emotionally impulsive characters in the franchise.
Like sure, yeah Metal Sonic plans and does so really well (Neo Metal Sonic in the games and comics). Sure, Omega is reliable in getting stuff done and is an incredible tank against badnicks. (In the comics) Gemerl makes a pretty great ally when he's around to fight. But I find it insane that Eggman made all his robots so emotional.
Neo Metal Sonic's whole thing was trying to be better than Sonic, and even when he's outnumbered and the whole cast is literally there, under all that rock music he's spewing about how much Sonic no longer matters to him, in a giant dragon form, still determined to beat Sonic. Omega's entire backstory is how he was pissed that Eggman left him to rot guarding Shadow's comatose body, essentially throwing a fit before he decides he'd rather do his own thing and destroy everything Eggman has built. In the comics (because he's never in any games anymore and that should be a crime) Gemerl leaves everyone to be there for Cream when she gets the metal virus.
Omega will absolutely dip everything in order to save Rouge and Shadow. Gemerl is the walking meme of 'I've known Cream for a day and if anything happened to her I would kill everyone and then myself'. Metal Sonic is shown to be cunning, but his hatred for Sonic (and his tendancy to ignore other threats in his tunnel visioned hatred) is usually what screws him over in the end.
Eggman, my guy, I get you want your robots to be loyal to you and all that which is why you gave them emotions, but I feel you messed something up here.
#sonic the hedgehog#metal sonic#e123 omega#gemerl#thoughts on robots#i love them#i love what we can do with them#working on the new chapter just writer's block#omega is in it. if that wasn't obvious by now
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ok now that we've yapped we wanna know do you have any sonic hcs you wanna share. or aus. or aus for other stuf.....f.. <deeply curious
um um um you get. me talking about metal sonic. for very long.
the main sonic AU thing i have slow boiling up there is like. robian metal sonic theory except he gets deroboticized by accident except he's still 12 yrs old because robots dont age. and now he has to deal with a) being flesh and blood again b) being twelve years old. i rotate it in my mind with my sibling because metal sonic has become blorbo incredibly fast somehow and i blame Complex Inquiries on ao3 which is SO GOOD. also this fic it's evil. and basically my AU thing was lowkey spawned in opposition to it (AFFECTIONATE) because . stares at the sky. man.
gets a bit embarrassed gushing about it but proceeds anyway. ahem. (clears throat.) basically metal just slams head first into the roboticizor on little planet and the only person who witnessed this is sonic, but metal, having just had a Major Fucking Revelation (he did not know he's actually sonic from an alternate timeline) just Bolts and everyone who meets him just goes "hey why is classic sonic so sad. also why did he bite me. also why is he here." because considering generations and forces, why WOULDNT they assume he's classic sonic, right, and this just kinda pisses him off worse. because now he's being delegated not to "the sonic copy" but to "the baby sonic" so pick your poison honestly.
in my mind's eye he DOES look exactly like classic but like. more unkempt. gloves are torn so he can claw at people. (there's a whole dilemma about how he'd view his robot form as "superior" because a) it's actually faster (thanks to upgrades) than he is now as a 12yr old b) claws and lasers are simply cool c) customizable. (i love transfem metal sonic and HONESTLY honestly. if i play the long con that IS where this Au can end up. but only with a very careful long con and character development.)
so you have sonic, who is deeply confused because he ALSO doesn't know metal's backstory and just thinks metal got turned into a flesh and blood child somehow and man he has GOT to get that guy like a bath and some good chili dogs, everybody else wildly concerned why classic just blew up a town, and metal just exploding internally at all times.
very fond of the "classic is mute" hc also (tho i think that's just Game Canon thanks to generations) so metal also struggles to communicate a lot since robot hands werent actually dexterous enough to do sign properly and now he's suuuper rusty, as is everybody else who knew sonic back then, because they haven't needed to use sign for years.
i think at some point also metal just goes back to eggman. hey fucker turn me back into a robot i need to kill sonic absolutely right now. now the REAL kicker is eggman didn't even know metal's backstory, because the roboticizor is a design he just reconstructed from his future self back then, decided he wasnt gonna bother with something SOMEONE ELSE came up with, and then promptly forgot about it. so eggman is also confused. what do you MEAN you're metal sonic. what the fuck. ok i guess you can have some gauntlets and a jetpack go fuck shit up.
i dont have plot beyond this i simply like to spin it.
I also keep thinking abt What Continuity this would be set in because i fucking LOVE metal in idw i love his hesitation and his Choice to reject sonic's outstretched hand and go back to eggman and i ADORE his whole bit with Belle where she wants to save him and.
but there's also a lot of potential in Sage being Dad's Favorite when metal is very much eggman's special boy in idw. like Sage & Belle both have such unique perspectives about them but they don't exist alongside each other and metal has a different relationship w eggman compared between idw and the games that i can't decide which is more narratively interesting to pursue because "ok maybe you started warming up to your creator after the whole betrayal bit and a huge chunk of that does turn out to not just be programming but your own volition, and now when you were in trouble you turned back to him again, this time with No Shot of it having been programming, but now you get to remember that he's actually nothing to you and stole your future and committed the greatest possible atrocity against you" is. is a Bit for sure.
but also compared to "you hate him so fucking bad you need him dead but you need sonic dead even worse so you have no choice but to team up with him and are forced to reckon that he CAN be kind, he can be kind to someone who was the age you were once, but the version of him back then wasn't. she made him kinder but you weren't enough so you just get to suffer."
it's both. it's both so good man i can't pick.
like metal definitely also just tries to blow up the world super sonic style 100%. and has to be talked down into at least accepting what happened so he can even begin to process it. and accept that the Sonic he Used To Be has been dead and gone for years. ego death has already occured. he's already been someone else for ages and it's about time she saw that at least.
which is of course where i can bring the transfem angle in as metal is forced to redefine herself and come to terms with her continued existence. yippie yay.
anyways yeah. metal sonic. i love her.
#Feli gets asked#Feli's Sonic Bonanza#i could also start talking abt how i'm currently cataloguing amy quotes.#cannot precisely explain what drives me to do so but. i am.#and i decided the funnier the media the more likely i am to start with it#currently trying to s rank missions in colors ds to potentially get like 3 additional lines of text because no one has uploaded these onlin#goddamn.
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I am fascinated by Ometal, may I inquire about it?
Credit where credit is due, my friend was the one who got me into ometal and pretty much everything I like about it came from conversations we’ve had and ideas he’s come up with.
Basically this all stems from the idea of “what if metal sonic joined team dark,” since team dark were the ones that picked up Metal’s body after he’s defeated at the end of sonic heroes
Unfortunately nothing ever came of this in canon, but in another universe I don’t think metal sonic wouldn’t have been satisfied returning to eggman’s side after getting a taste of freedom and power of his own (plus, I think if he had returned, eggman would have put measures into place to ensure he was never betrayed again, which is my personal headcanon as to why metal sonic doesn’t speak nor really play a very large narrative role anymore). Of course after the events of Heroes he’s also too damaged to go anywhere else, so w/o any other options he decides to stick with Team Dark. I think Shadow would be the one to offer it, as he and Metal already have a lot in common and we see that they work well as a team in games like Sonic Rivals 2 (Metal is also one of the few characters Shadow has verbally expressed outright concern for, so there’s that). I also think Shadow would get a kick out of messing with Sonic by keeping Metal around (Shadow: “What? I took a page from your book and decided to forgive my enemies”).
As for the Metal/Omega dynamic itself, I don’t think Rouge would mind having Metal join but I think Omega would HATE Metal Sonic at first. But eventually it becomes clear that like him Metal is the cream of the crop of eggman’s creations and like him, has also unaligned himself with Eggman. This would make it difficult for him to see Metal as just any other old badnik. However, I do think Omega would consider himself to be the only one of them to actually have free will, as he went against his programming while Metal Sonic continues to comply with his original directive even after leaving Eggman.
On the other hand, I think Metal would see the opposite. In his eyes, Omega’s original directive was to guard Shadow the Hedgehog and under Team Dark, that’s still what he’s doing. Therefore, him and Omega are the same in that way. Of course, this insinuation would PISS omega off, but I also think it could kick off a serious robot existential crisis moment (I don’t actually think Omega joining Team Dark is a result of his original programming, even if the argument could be made, but I think it could serve as an interesting character investigation).
There’s a lot of nuance to Sonic robots beyond the original franchise concept of “artificial bad natural good” (We saw this as early as Gamma in Adventure and recently with Sage in Frontiers), so I think exploring the dichotomy between Omega and Metal’s personal goals versus their original programming has potential for a good free will/forging your own path/finding your own people story. Also Metal and Omega are both totally down for murder so thats cool.
Most of this really boils down to me and my friend wanting wacky gay robot hijinks and the fact that Metal Sonic is my #1 favorite sonic character so I like creating content for him. It’s a fun pairing to me that I think has more potential than pure crack but also isn’t meant to be super serious.
TLDR: i like it when robots are gay and kill
#ometal#metal sonic#omega#sonic heroes#didn’t mean to go so hard but this is how they exist in my mind#again a lot of this comes from my friend that I just subscribed too wholeheartedly bc I LOVE IT#text#asks#tigermisty6
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I'm fascinated to know more about Silver's relationship with Eggman Nega. Not only is Eggman Nega one of the most evil people in the series with a twisted sociopathic personality that directly contrasts Silver's but his existence means that even in the peaceful future Silver has been fighting a great enemy by himself for a long time.
Eggman Nega is a contested villain for many, but he indeed intrigues me as well. What I find interesting about Eggman Nega is that he clearly is pissed about Eggman's conga line of failures and busted world domination attempts ever since meeting Sonic, the ramifications of which apparently are still noticeable for the Robotniks 200 years later. And instead of trying to move away from his ancestor's legacy and showing the world that he has worth and intelligence galore as his own person, Eggman Nega bitterly links himself to Eggman all the same by seeing his destiny as being denied and doing anything he can to bring a change to it. He and Eggman are so the same it is almost painfully ironically hilarious: they're both impatient and hotblooded manchildren who thinks everything should revolve around them and the world should be grovelling in awe of just how amazing they are, Eggman is simply much more bombastic and allegedly somewhat more rational on top. Meanwhile, the moment the change he desires goes wrong for him, Eggman Nega decides that if he can't have nice things, no-one can...
It's an interesting contrast with Silver and Silver's selflessness. Silver would do anything to help another person, and often puts himself in a position wherein he places world-saving on solely his own shoulders if he can. If you need anything, no matter what it is, Silver will drop all he is doing to aid you. Eggman Nega meanwhile is wicked to his core, and everything he does is for personal benefits only. I find it interesting as well that Silver in Rivals never even hints at there being another force to keep Eggman Nega in line, like GUN or a government or something. It's just this fourteen-year-old fighting against a depraved and unhinged madman whose desire for vengeance can get overshadowed in the blink of an eye with a desire to just destroy everything, solely because he can and wants to. Perhaps that is also a contrast between Eggman Nega and Silver: Silver can be short-sighted and rash, but I was watching the Rivals 1 cutscenes from him yesterday, and he is shrewd. He directly concludes on situations based on the information he has, and he is both correct and his line of reasoning based on what he knows checks out. Silver appears dumb and fool-hearty, but he can be quite the opposite, with a perceptiveness you would not give him if you just came across him. Eggman Nega meanwhile appears very well-put-together and intelligent, giving off the 'always a step ahead' vibes easily. But he tends to oversee small details, talks FAR too much (one time in Rivals he literally says he'll use Metal Sonic (iirc) to buy him time to sneak away), and makes grave mistakes that come back to bite him down the line due to simply being careless. To generalise, Silver appears dumb but is not, Eggman Nega appears intelligent but is not.
As for the future, Eggman Nega seems to be someone who always comes back from the brink, just like Eggman: I get the feeling he might not be stuck in the Ifrit's dimension anymore, and if he goes back to Silver's era it will be with a vengeance. But I also think Silver is willing to carry that burden if it means the world will be safe. In Rivals he seems to have been archnemeses with Eggman Nega a long time (or at least he's been chasing after Nega a long time, iirc), and I doubt either will ever consider giving up before they got what they wanted!
#Silver will of course prevail because he is the hero of the story haha but I do think there is something poignant-#-about how in the future there is still a Robotnik fighting against a powerful hedgehog#for me it really shows how Eggman Nega truly is not so different from Eggman#and I think he absolutely *could* have changed his destiny by deciding to take a different path from his ancestor#and become someone the people of the future could have been proud of#but instead his bitterness and anger decided that revenge on Eggman would be the best way to go here#to me Eggman Nega is truly in a situation of his own making#silver the hedgehog#eggman nega#sonic rivals
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Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer, Issue #30: Cured
After the epic battle between Super Sonic and Super Silver & Kaiju!Zavok, as well as removing the Metal Virus from everything and everyone, we are left with a nice little epilogue to wrap things up and finally end The Metal Virus Saga. Welcome, folks, to The Out of the Blue Arc.
We are met with Super Sonic and Super Silver, just moments before the explosion in the last Issue happened. Super Silver cries out for Super Sonic that the Metal Virus is gone, so Super Sonic decides to ditch the Warp Topaz. One moment later, Silver crashes into the ground, explaining what had happened as Knuckles and Tails help him up.
Amy is horrified at the implication of Sonic being gone, but Knuckles is confident that Sonic just wanted to be dramatic and that he would float down in front of them, all smug and golden, any minute now.
Aaaaaany minute now.
Honestly, I love Knuckles here. I love how he knows Sonic so well and believes in him, thinking he’ll just appear out of nowhere, completely fine. It just shows that, even if Sonic does get on his nerves, they’re still friends and respect each other’s strength.
Amy and Tails meanwhile are not as hopeful, wanting to search for Sonic, but they have no idea where to start. Knuckles then gets annoyed, noting how Sonic makes him look bad, yelling to knock it off and get back.
Meanwhile, Eggman sneaks away into the shuttle, figuring that Sonic is gone, one way or another, and while everyone’s distracted, he can get away.
Meanwhile, as everyone in the background is celebrating, Cream and Vanilla are discussing how Sonic is nowhere in sight. Vanilla tries to comfort her, only for them to get approached by Gemerl, and Cream realizes he’s being controlled by Zavok. Pissed off, Cream yells at him to go home, but Zavok replies with a curt “No”.
Despite his ominous presence, he is still injured from the fight, clutching at his sides, but swearing he won’t suffer from another humiliating defeat at Sonic’s hands and since he lost the Zombots and the Metal Virus, he’ll tear the world down with his brute hands. Apparently, dude never heard of tactical retreat, huh?
Cream wants none of that, so she sics Cheese on him, who lands a hit on him. This is followed by Tangle wrapping him up in her tail. They then get joined by Vector, Espio and Charmy, as well as Silver and Whisper.
Zavok refuses to fall, throwing everyone off himself, but he gets hit by Whisper and held down by Silver, unable to counter the former’s psychokinesis. We even see Shadow in the last panel, just walking away. I guess the mighty leader of The Deadly Six isn’t worth his time.
Or maybe, it is something else.
Meanwhile, Knuckles is still staring at the sky, holding out hope for Sonic’s return, while Amy and Tails are taking a moment to breathe. Amy has clearly enough of everything, on top of Sonic’s disappearance, but Tails reminds her the Zeti are still loose. We then see Zazz, Zeena, Zor, Zomom and Master Zik deciding to just ditch everything and reunite with Zavok.
We also see the Babylon Rogues, who had survived the Zombot onslaught, Storm hugging happily Jet and Wave. Jet tells him to put him down, while Wave asks Jet whether he’s okay. Jet assures her that he’s fine, with Wave wanting to find Zik and turn him into prune juice. Jet notes that Zik is probably on the run, with Wave pointing out who didn’t run - Jet! He remained with them, and Wave and Storm admire him for that, calling him brave and noble.
Gotta say, I absolutely agree with Wave here. Jet is a badass... even if his ego is bigger than the Babylon Rogues’ airship. Nevertheless, I like the moment here, even with Jet bragging about him being the greatest leader of all time.
Back on Angel Island, Amy laments about going back to whatever is left in the Restoration HQ, with Tails telling her to take a break and asks her why she took the role of the leader. Amy replies that she took it upon herself because a certain someone dissolved the Resistance. Knuckles responds how the War was over and his place was on Angel Island, and how Amy could’ve just refused, but Amy didn’t want to let the people rebuild without any help. They then realize the shuttle is gone, with Big pointing at it in the sky.
Tails and Amy realize it is Eggman who is flying it, while Knuckles leaves them, noting how there’s one more headache he has to deal with.
Knuckles approaches the Master Emerald, with Rouge still lounging on it. Knuckles informs he calmly about Eggman’s escape, asking her why she’s not keeping an eye on him, but Rouge responds how he’s the Guardian of the Island, so isn’t that his job? Knuckles responds how it’s time to scram, with Rouge telling him to give her another minute.
Honestly, I’m surprised that Knuckles hadn’t punched her off the Master Emerald. One would think he’d do that, but no, he takes a more diplomatic approach and just tells her to leave. Again, it’s great to see him like this.
On the other hand, he does threaten to throw her off the island, but Rouge gets down and seems to blush a little when Rouge says good-bye to him, calling him handsome.
Again, I love these two.
☆*:.。.o(≧▽≦)o.。.:*☆
Knuckles then once again looks up at the sky, still waiting for Sonic to show up.
“Any minute now.”
We then check in on Gemerl, who finds Orbot and Cubot. The duo tells Eggman they’ve been discovered, so Eggman commands Metal Sonic to retrieve them, punching a hole through Gemerl(!) and grabbing Orbot and Cubot, flying off. Damn, Gemerl is lucky he’s a robot, or else we would’ve seen blood.
Whisper fires at Metal Sonic, but Metal just activates his Black Shield, dropping Gemerl, Orbot and Cubot, then drops the Black Shield and snatches Orbot and Cubot, flying up again. Charmy attempts to go after him, but Vector holds him back, not wanting to go through losing Charmy again (Dad Mode activated!) and tells Silver to grab Metal. Silver, however, is too busy holding Zavok down, so he calls out for Shadow, who zooms right away.
Now, I genuinely like this sequence.
Shadow uses his air shoes in an attempt to catch up with the shuttle, but gets elbowed in the face by Metal Sonic The two fight, with Shadow jumping off a branch and using the air shoes to fly at Metal Sonic.
He spin-dashes into Metal Sonic, with the two continuing their fight.
Metal Sonic blocks another spin-dash, knocking Shadow into the forest below, and flies back to the shuttle. Shadow follows them, but he cannot reach the shuttle anymore, glaring at it, his hand shaking.
All of this is done in complete silence and honestly, I believe this was Shadow’s attempt to redeem himself for what happened at Sunset City. I know, I know, some might say that “oh, this is Shadow trying to get payback for his bruised ego” and I get it. However, my interpretation of this scene is that Shadow is frustrated at himself for not listening to Sonic, so he listens to Silver the moment the latter alerts him to Eggman’s escape. He tries to catch Eggman, but is beaten by Metal Sonic, failing once again at his duty at protecting the world. I believe that this will carry over into the next arc because of a specific scene that happens in this arc.
Meanwhile, in the Sol Dimension, Blaze enjoys the quiet evening, happy that things are peaceful...
...and then the universe itself decides to prove her wrong; and I swear I laughed for a solid minute at this panel.
Blaze runs up to the crater, swearing she’ll deal with anyone who dared to intrude and is shocked at whom she finds.
It is none other than Sonic the Hedgehog! Bruised, beaten, and a little crisp, but alive nonetheless.
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you’ve all wanted it, and i’m not ready to go to sleep yet, so here’s the latest installment of the sonic underground rewatch!
episode 6 thoughts under the cut!
• unrelated to the episode but there was some lego ninjago commercial that showed like. non-lego versions of the main characters and it looked nice. don’t know if it was for a show or the website idk i wasn’t paying attention • [GUITAR RIFF] SONIC- • i will literally never get tired of the opening theme and you can’t change my mind, i would die for a remaster of this. it doesn’t even have to be a cover. gimme a live performance and i will cry • “tangled webs”. spider concerns already • ooh, swatbot factory. interesting • manic just slid down a little rocky hill on his ass and that’s gotta hurt • sonia stop shining that laser pointer in manic’s eyes you’re gonna kill him • “switch six, switch six...” reminded me of the fun fact that your brain can only identify numbers up to a maximum of 4 or 5 at a glance, i forget which. but like... notice how if you only look at something very briefly you wouldn’t be able to immediately know “oh there’s 27 objects there” but you can very quickly identify 1-4 • sonia stop hitting manic with the drone what is wrong with you • some of these background characters are passable and some of them are hideous, there’s no in-between
• oh it’s the lion boy!! his voice is weird but it’s him!! • god dingo’s face is all kinds of fucked up in this close up as he’s talking • why is robotnik’s cape flowing so far behind him when he’s walking at a somewhat slow pace • i find it funny when eggman’s henchmen mock him when he’s not around, but i didn’t expect sleet to do that • “intruder .8 kilograms? what?? • how does it weigh a drone that is hovering in mid-air • somehow dingo identifies the drone as being piloted by sonia despite it being a hunk of metal with cameras on it • dingo being or looking like in the case of my headcanon a grown man and slobbering over sonia is kinda freaky (it’s partially why i made the hc so it’s less yikes but it’s still uncomfortable and i’m definitely gonna tone it down because fuck) • sleet don’t hit him!! • sonia is clearly frustrated during her conversation with manic (he’s being reckless as fuck) but the animators decided to give her a dead eyed smile for the whole scene • i wonder how they made the mechanical sounds? like the electronic shweeshweeshwee of the robots walking or the whoosh of doors opening? foley stuff is fascinating to me and i wanna know if they had to do any weird shit
• sleet is monologuing about how he hears the pitter patter of manic’s little feet and oh my god his eyes • how is dingo sneaking up behind manic he’s so fucking huge and noisy • sleet says “sylvia” before whacking the drone out of the air with what looks like an entire swatbot he just sort of picked up? i don’t get the reference and since when is he so strong • okay in the next shot it’s just an arm but still • “sometimes you just have to get their attention”? • cool transition between scenes with the camera glitching and shutting down from the perspective of the drone, that’s neat • dingo picks up sonia but wasn’t he just behind manic? once again the pacing is confusing me • “oh, ick” me too sonia • manic and sonia are tied up and were but in gigantic chairs and it looks so funny • “now, sarah” okay i get the “sylvia” thing now, sleet’s just forgetting sonia’s name somehow • sonia says “twit-face” and i feel like she could be more clever than that • “whatever, sophia” • “where’s sonic!?” [NYOOM] • sonic’s voice sounds... really weird, is that what jaleel white sounds like when he isn’t trying to sound all nasally and shit? also he burps and it’s gross • god the movement in this scene is very janky in general • sonia starts lecturing sonic but gets interrupted by a laser blast and manic pipes in like “can we talk about this later?” • sonia strong • is sonic just spilling lava everywhere??? • you’d think there’d be more sounds here • “am i good or what?” feels like it was pulled from satam? • “you’re insufferable” “thank you” • sonia’s voice is so shrill jesus christ • i feel like this is a pretty good confrontation of how sonic not working as a team with the other two can cause pretty significant problems • sonia i don’t think robotnik would throw you in prison, that’s what the roboticizer is for and i don’t think he’d keep y’all separate from that • cyrus does a weird double take and i think it’s an animation error • this cyrus kid is pretty sus- who is this hippie dude- • CYRUS SUS CYRUS SUS • there was deadass just a normal animal bird with some kind of accessory on its neck as a background character • damn it cyrus • SONG TIME??? • apparently no • once again manic and sonia are tied up which lasts 2 seconds • aosth slow-mo beam, purple flavor • what are these background characters they’re so ugly • OH NO I REMEMBER WHAT SANCTUARY IS NOW • children... i’d love to see the tiny babes but they’re undoubtedly ugly as fuck • ROBOTNIK WANTS TO MURDER CHILDREN • one of the kids looks like reptar • SONG TIME NOW • why is this so. idk, whimsical? idk how to describe this but i already don’t like it • they forgot to draw manic’s head quills in a shot • why is cyrus looking so pissed at these children • sounds like a weird off brand christmas song. don’t like it very much but i guess it isn’t bad. maybe a 2/10 • sdnjksg assaulting your siblings with a cloud of flour sounds fun if not wasteful but still, manic seems to be enjoying his little tech demo • sonia says “this place is gross” and manic goes “hey, you’re talking about my childhood home” and i think it’s a good thing that the show didn’t just forget where they all came from and how this can create very minor conflict between them? like manic and sonia seem to slight each other rather frequently when it comes to sonia’s attitude towards dirty places and manic finding it comfortable there due to familiarity even if it wasn’t all that good. i can relate to that • sonic walks off the right side of the screen after refusing some goggles then. pops up and puts on the shades again? i don’t get it • oh my god sonic knocks cyrus (and manic by extension) over and they literally just. rotate the asset in place and leave them planking. there wasn’t a water splash or change of pose or anything • how does sonic zoom past a swat bot looking directly at him without triggering any alarms? why didn’t it notice him • why are there so many regretful traitors on this show • how does sonic not notice the clearly a hologram man in front of him • god the animation in this episode in general is abyssmal • ah jeez manic and sonia have been captured again • “attention sonic hedgehog” • OH NO CYRUS’ DAD but the expression he made in response to seeing him roboticized killed it
• i know he didn’t snort here but i can feel the little “snrk” sound here. it was at this moment he knew he fucked up • PULL THE LEVER, SLEET • that little drone thing is fucking insane, it melted the entire roboticizer?? • i much prefer when background characters resemble actual animals • aww hug • poor cyrus :( • GOD SONIC AND SONIA SIT DOWN TO COMFORT HIM BUT MANIC LAYS DOWN ALL DRAMATIC JUST SMILING, READ THE ROOM BUD-
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oh my man you have no idea how much lore i’ve got. you fool, you’ve given me the excuse to infodump about everything!
(sorry this got super long so i’m making a separate post, also it’s 2am so i’m not gonna format this correctly or do literally anything to it)
i’ll start by explaining the timeline, i find it easiest to categorize it by the different versions of maria that exist in the au.
for starters, we have regular old canon maria. her deal is basically the same as in canon up until her death. i really just wanted a “maria lives” au but with a twist. so basically the lore is professor gerald didn’t have a lot of confidence in finding a cure for maria via project shadow so he came up with a plan b which involved creating a machine that could upload someone’s mind onto a computer (mainly because that’s just a sci-fi trope i always liked). of course this was more of a last resort kinda deal, but when g.u.n. raided the ark they didn’t exactly have a lot of options. maria was still shot like in canon and she did physically “die” but gerald managed to upload her consciousness before she actually died. unfortunately the project was still very experimental and maria wasn’t actually able to respond to any of their tests to see if it worked, leading gerald to believe it had failed. thus allowing the plot of sa2 to still happen.
so the next maria in the timeline is cyber maria. this is just the version of maria that’s living in a computer on the ark... ...for 50 years.... ........alone. unlike shadow, she was completely conscious for this entire time which meant an awful lot of time alone with her thoughts. her memories weren’t totally together at the beginning and it takes her an awfully long time to put everything together but once she finally does she’s not quite the same and her personality shifts quite a bit. she still holds the same love for humanity and her family, but she IS tired of being nice, she DOES want to go apeshit! her main beef is with g.u.n. for literally killing her and everything else they did. she’s honestly quite pissed (rightfully so) but she can’t really do anything about it so she honestly just spends 50 years worrying about her family. she doesn’t know if shadow or her grandfather survived after everything that happened and at this point she has no idea how long it’s been.
50 years pass and the events of sa2 take place exactly as they do in canon (can’t fix perfection babey!) and although she’s on the ark, maria has no way of knowing that any of it’s happening. so it’s not actually until a little while after the events of shadow the hedgehog(2005) that anything actually happens maria wise. so the scene is eggman is looking into his grandfather’s research to see if he can get any ideas that would help him beat sonic and co when he comes across the files about the whole plan b project (lmao sorry i don’t actually have a good name for what he might’ve called it). he get’s real curious about it and decides to head back up to the ark and check it out. one thing leads to another and he manages to have a conversation with maria and she’s just thrilled to know that the outside world still exists, she also makes fun of him because “lmfao what kind of name is eggman?” after all she’s still mentally a teenager. eggman mentions that he’s quite skilled in making robots and could build a body for her back on earth and maria is all for ALL of that.
which leads us into metal maria. as soon as she has an actual physical body again eggman explains to her how long it’s been, who he actually is (literally her younger cousin lmao) and a bit of what’s been going on in the worlds, he lets it slip that he may have blown up the moon a little bit and gets thoroughly scolded on that. he also mentions that him and shadow may sorta kinda be enemies and shadow maybe is working for organization that killed her, which every bit of that makes her pissed. she decides to join forces with eggman so that he can help her take down g.u.n. since he’s not exactly on their good side. she also agrees to help deal with sonic on occasion but she doesn’t do much because “what how old is he? like 15 or something? nah dude become mortal enemies with an adult like a normal person.” despite everything, the protective older sister instinct is still strong within her and she’s super against picking fights with kids (especially ones that are friends rivals with her bro) on the subject of shadows friends, she does not like rouge, omega she doesn’t mind as much but still doesn’t like that much. she meets rouge a while before she’s actually reunited with shadow and they don’t exactly have a good first impression. maria assumes that rouge convinced shadow to join g.u.n. “because why else would he do something that stupid, he’s dumb but he can’t be that dumb?” and rouge just doesn’t buy maria’s backstory and assumes eggman only made her to mess with shadow. also rouge is lowkey jealous of maria because she’s got that v good and strong sisterly bond with shadow and DAMNIT she want’s that! so the two of them are basically enemies for a while until maria finally manages to reunite with shadow and he’s honestly just really fed up with them constantly fighting and arguing so their relationship dies down to less of enemies and more of a petty rivalry. also at some point during all that maria decides that metal sonic is also her brother now and there’s nothing he can do about it (spoilers: he actually really enjoys her affection but tries not to show it)
over time maria and metal become kinda a neutral party between sonic and eggman. and honestly with maria’s constant lecturing, eggman kinda tones it down on the world domination deal and becomes more of a dr. doofenshmirtz type villain because it’s funnier that way. (sorry i ONLY make an au if it’s wholesome) he kinda only keeps up the villain gig for the press and because it’s kinda his brand at this point.
which leads us into neo metal maria, 10 years in the future maria takes over the eggman empire. it’s 110% for show. she puts on this big facade of being a villain with megamind level dramatics but she never does anything other than screw over g.u.n., which team dark has long since stopped working with at this point, finally. seriously that sucked what the heck where you thinking sega? whatever i fixed it for them ;)
in the future of this au (which i don’t focus on a whole lot because i like drawing them as a bunch of kids just screwing around, god i’m so smart sega could never) since eggman isn’t a problem everyone’s whole deal is just dealing with other threats and also just a lot of adventuring. every once and a while some old god will try and destroy the world again as per usual and maria will actually step in to help. because of this and the fact that she’s not actually violent, maria is actually quite adored by the public. which is literally her goal, she’s not a villain she’s an entertainer!
and there’s a whole lot more to this au because i actually focus on pretty much every character and how this all plays out for them. i have a different take on how some games played out with her being there (mainly 06 and forces because they’re not great even tho i love them, but her being there made them funny) but yeah i’ve put a LOT of thought into this au and it means a whole lot to me. this is literally just a summary of eveything that happens. over time i’ll expand on this more.
but hot diggity shit, it’s 2am. so i’m just gonna wrap this up with some sketches of the gal!
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184. Sonic the Hedgehog #116
This is a very exciting issue, everybody! First of all, it sees the return of Rouge, who so far has only had one cameo within the comics since the majority of the Sonic Adventure 2 storyline was skipped. And second of all (and perhaps more importantly), this issue marks the exact halfway point in the Archie Sonic preboot! Yes, that's right, up to this point we have read exactly half of all available preboot issues (excluding a couple here and there that either contained noncanon stories or were just made up of reprinted older stories). It's kind of exciting! You could joke that it's all downhill from here, but I would disagree, as some of the comic's best years are still ahead of us, something which most preboot fans would likely agree on. So hold on tight - it's gonna be an interesting 183 more issues to come!
Operation: Off Switch!
Writer: Benny Lee Pencils: Ron Lim Colors: Josh & Aimee Ray
So remember how I mentioned that Eggman has been mysteriously missing as of late? Yeah, well, turns out he's kind of been hiding this whole time. Sonic and Bunnie find themselves called to Station Square by the city's president, who informs them that he's found some information they will find significant.
Their mission takes them to the ruined city of Old Megaopolis in Mobius' northern hemisphere. Interestingly enough, there's actually a ruined Statue of Liberty there! I know that Mobius has analogues to almost everything on Earth, but this is a bit much, don't you think?
Apparently, even this city is very small compared to New Megaopolis north of here. Bunnie and Sonic decide to split up - Sonic heads off to look for Eggman, while Bunnie goes in search of Rouge. Sonic quickly finds himself dodging various attacks such as missiles, clearly put there by Eggman to stop anyone from disrupting his plans. Of course, he makes it through, and emerges into a room where Eggman has set up a really stupid-looking robotic body for himself, which basically amounts to a small metal dome-like thing with a lot of arms and a primitive Eggman head in the center. He tries to hit Sonic with the arms, but he dodges most of them, and easily slips a lit stick of dynamite into Eggman's metal mouth before making his getaway.
Well, I'm sure that takes care of that problem, right? There's no way he's coming back now! None at all!
Bat Fight!
Writer: Karl Bollers Pencils: J. Axer Colors: J an A Ray
Yes, "an," not "and." I don't know what Josh and Aimee are up to, but they have a different way of listing their own names in the credits pretty much every time they show up.
While Sonic is busy blowing things up in another part of the city, Rouge has been irritably pacing in the confines of her cell, mad at herself for getting caught earlier when she first entered the city. Suddenly, her cell opens, and she suspiciously steps out to see the silhouette of Bunnie standing nearby, greeting her. Mistaking her for a cyborg created by Eggman and sent to kill her, Rouge doesn't hesitate to start beating Bunnie up. Bunnie, naturally, is not pleased with this, and fights back.
They basically just spend several pages duking it out, with no real dialogue between either of them. It's been quite a while since we saw a story that was nothing but fighting like this - that typically happened in the earlier issues, when a "____ vs. ____" special was a much bigger draw than it is now. The fight finally ends when Sonic shows up, baffled at why they're fighting at all.
I mean, yeah it was Rouge's fault, but it's not really surprising given that she had every reason to mistrust a half-roboticized figure coming at her while she was still a prisoner of Eggman. Honestly, what I'm more interested in about her is how the hell she even came to be an agent of Station Square's military in the first place. The only piece of Sonic media I'm aware of that actually explains her initial recruitment is Sonic X, but in this universe, Station Square was presumably not even aware of the existence of Mobians until Sonic and co. visited the city for the first time a mere few months ago. How did a Mobian even get a position as one of the city's agents in the first place? As far as I remember it's not ever explained either, so I suppose we could just assume that she was made an agent under similar circumstances shortly after the events of the Sonic Adventure arc and leave it at that.
Ultimate Power (Mid-logue: The Lesson)
Writer: Ken Penders Pencils: Dawn Best Colors: Aimee & Josh Ray
This story is exactly what the title implies - we're taking a hard break from what was happening before with Knuckles, Dimitri and Mogul, to look at a memory from Knuckles' childhood. Presumably because of his Chaos-ness, he experiences this memory in third person as though he's standing there watching everything play out before his eyes. He sees himself as an eight-year-old with his father, as they watch a group of mysterious strangers enter the Chaos Chamber. Knuckles is eager to learn more about the Chaos Emerald that keeps the island aloft, but Locke merely brushes him off and tells him to stay put while he takes care of the problem.
We've already been over Locke's terrible parenting before, so I won't rehash it here. Green Knuckles finds himself baffled as to why he's been thrust into this sudden flashback, but follows his past self as he in turn follows his father into the Chaos Chamber. The intruders turn out to be some of Robotnik's own roboticized scouts, who have landed on the island in search of a new power source for their broken-down ship. Locke tries to warn them away peacefully, but when they try to take the Chaos Emerald for themselves, little Knuckles jumps in, trying to tackle one of them. He's batted aside like a mere nuisance, which pisses Locke off. Locke zaps them all with energy drawn from the emerald so they fall to the ground smoking and disabled, and goes to check on his son, who is coming to, dazed from the blow.
With the flashback completed, Knuckles comes back to himself in the Brotherhood's base, listening to Remington on the screen asking him to come to the hospital to deal with their current hostage situation. Honestly, I'm not even entirely sure what this story is for, because while Knuckles acts like he's learned some important lesson from reviewing this memory, I really can't see anything in it that's relevant to his current situation. But there is an important milestone issue coming up soon, and I think that this story may have been used as filler to take up some space so that the end of this arc could coincide with it, since both Knuckles' and Sonic's stories converge in that milestone issue. You'll see what I mean in a few…
#nala reads archie sonic preboot#archie sonic#archie sonic preboot#sonic the hedgehog#sth 116#writer: benny lee#writer: karl bollers#writer: ken penders#pencils: ron lim#pencils: jeff axer#pencils: dawn best#colors: joshua d ray#colors: aimee r ray
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Sonic Unleashed 10th Anniversary New Content
I wanna have that title be truthful just be honest. Including this is something an idea I've had since the last post where I talk about in case if Sonic Forces bombs and next year we get a Sonic Unleashed remastered for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, and PC.
In fact just I got some new ideas right now and don't wanna wait because of reasons mainly my hands. Yet talking about this I wouldn't be or would be surprised if Sega and Sonic Team takes notice of this and just....the idea is great and I would really want this to happen. Said it sucks in my head basically thought just the idea of no new version of Sonic Unleashed.
So I've talked about Sonic Unleashed next year for it's 10th anniversary it's on next gen console's with updated visuals, and all dlc on the game.
Yet this or these ideas new content not gonna use the dots periods. I do that to be dramatic.
But this was something I thought of. Including games like Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition and Gears Of War Ultimate Edition have new content and updated for next gen systems. Oh my head no it doesn't suck it rocks.
Basically these ideas I'll share these. Including the new ones.
Before Unleashed was released and still showing promos and shit. Such as the first image of Sonic and his werehog form. On the characters list I remember this was on Wikipedia even if it's a site that can't be trusted.
Yet Shadow and Knuckles were supposed to be characters in the game but that changed. Including I would of honestly loved that. Even some other characters.
Then their were these ideas to make them connect to the story and I didn't wanna say useful their not playable sorry or some shit oh head should care.
But Honestly this is a bit crazy I've thought of this and this was some months ago. If they were in the game here are these ideas boss fights.
Yes I'm saying boss fights and I'll explain. Because of Dark Gaia woke up early and gonna spoil a bit in case my head just it's almost been a decade since the game has been released for anyone to play yet at times oh head reasonable.
But because of Dark Gaia woke up too early because of Dr. Eggman and the planet shattered. Because of this Dark Gaia's influence is spreading. Unleashing demons of some sort considering one of the missions is a exorcism that was difficult to spell. Basically these Dark Gaia creatures at night only have possessed people and making them different versions of themselves. Whether it be good or bad. Yet still bad considering what Sonic and friends are dealing with these demons.
Dark Gaia notices thought after the first Chaos Emerald is restored and one piece of the Earth is fixed. Including Dr. Eggman sorry failed to stop Sonic that time. Dark Gaia decides to try something. While the creatures have possessed people first. Dark Gaia decides to try to possess more powerful beings. Hoping they can defeat or even kill Sonic. Including what makes the situation better Sonic is a werehog at night time. While a threat also at night but not as much powerful compared to his real normal form. Forgot to put powerful after I wrote that last sentence.
So what would be the perfect beings to try to take control at night.
None other then Knuckles and Shadow. The guardian of the Master Emerald something Dark Gaia could take advantage of possibly and the Ultimate Lifeform. Especially Shadow considering in a way Shadow is in a way some sort of God. What I mean by that him being so powerful.
Also I know in Shadow The Hedgehog his game even if I don't like it. He resisted Black Doom's mind control but were talking about the supernatural.
But I also wanna talk about the new stuff. Metal Sonic and Rouge The Bat.
I thought of these when just....that BFG Division track of Doom 2016 is beautiful as all fuck. Including even ideas of Dark Gaia possessing GUN soldiers to attack Sonic at night time.
Basically I thought of some ideas. You can fight against Metal Sonic during the day first and can beat him. Including Dr. Eggman bringing in Metal Sonic to even the odds in case. Almost left including again but the idea Shadow, Knuckles, and Rouge could help and whoever else.
Yet when Metal Sonic learns that Sonic in a way is weaker at night time. Basically the one thing that really helps against any enemy including Metal Sonic is that it's Sonic's own speed.
Realizing he could finally kill Sonic at a time where he can not be his normal self. I don't know if that's in character of Metal honestly he might not miss the chance to finally rid of the one thing he hates. Even Dr. Eggman would agree with that too.
Okay just sat back down switched channel to Cartoon Network West and it's well now it's on the 2nd showing of the new OK KO good episode 6:30 pm.
Now back to this basically Dark Gaia except Metal Sonic because Dr. Eggman would command Metal to kill Sonic. But also Metal would also want to kill Sonic personally the whole real Sonic thing trying to prove that.
But the others Dark Gaia this may sound weird yet would have to try to take advantage of their emotions. Mainly Knuckles and Shadow. No offense I just can't think of a reasonable way to get Rouge very emotionally pissed. Including I don't want the whole possession thing to be easy. Because compared to humans Sonic and others seem quite immune to the possessions such as Sonic, Tails, and Amy at night. Including theirs a reason why Sonic isn't so corrupted even if I said theirs spoilers in this. Just at times...that did got me thinking. But sorry I don't wanna talk about that but these okay not four but three characters.
Honestly Dark Gaia might have Rouge think something negative about her work life, maybe failure and no jewelry weird yet hey she likes jewels. With Knuckles could be the memories of how at first Sonic and Knuckles weren't friends. Also probably this idea I thought have Knuckles think the planet shattering and the Chaos Emeralds how they are drained of power is all Sonic's fault. Including I thought of this even fear of the Master Emerald being drained in some way this paranoid mind and said brilliant in my mind. Just was distracted by the word paranoid. Is it just wait paranoia okay seems to be that I'm sorry don't care. But you might get the point.
Now for Shadow it would be quite a lot more personal. Despite getting over and knowing of his past. Dark Gaia would honestly take advantage of Shadow's memories and emotions. Including keep reminding Shadow that after everything he's done why would he even protect the planet after his sister in a way Maria died and how they kept it a secret. Honestly I'm surprised their weren't huge mobs and outcries about that when people found out what happened on the Ark and that it was still up there. Even this theory of mine GUN kept the Ark in case if they wanna destroy anyone.
Basically Dark Gaia would try to make Shadow forget that even after being shot by humans Maria wanted Shadow to give the people of Earth a chance. Dark Gaia would try to keep blocking that and just push the bad memories so much like REMEMBER THIS REMEMBER THIS THEY DID THIS WHY ARE YOU HELPING THEM THEY TOOK YOUR FAMILY AWAY FROM YOU and basically having control of Shadow and all of his powers. Such as if possible with the drained Chaos Emeralds now that I think of it. Powers such as Chaos Control and Chaos Blast.
Basically Rouge, Knuckles, and Shadow aren't doing this on their own will they are being controlled and I'm thinking on certain nights when you go to another contitent or done with a mission. You see Dark Gaia trying to take control of them. Honestly not all in one night but just in trailers like the Sonic Forces villains trailer. Showcasing new bosses.
Honestly Knuckles and Rouge teaming up. Yet Dark Gaia would try to be careful of when to take control of them. Including I thought where to kill Sonic at.
But also on to the other idea GUN soldiers and possibly GUN robots. Since humans are easier to possess Dark Gaia notices that GUN is heavily armed and trying to go against Eggman and help Sonic. So Dark Gaia takes advantage of this so they can try to kill Sonic. Even if Sonic doesn't wanna hurt them. Okay yes theirs the exorcism missions but it's this neat idea to add some new enemies. The GUN robots are sent out with GUN thinking Sonic has gone rogue and going against them now seeing Sonic beating up soldiers. Yet honestly they would find out soldiers are being possessed I just now thought even bosses like in Shadow The Hedgehog thought sweet in my head.
Yet after the incident GUN tries to make sure no soldiers are possessed. If they are they would lock them up until the creature is gone. Or have Sonic come help in one of those exorcism missions.
But honestly the boss battles against the other okay not three but four are insane.
In fact it's almost suicidal and perfect for Dark Gaia. Sonic isn't as powerful as his normal form where he uses his speed. But basically when I mean suicidal I mean Sonic going against beings like Metal Sonic, Rouge, Knuckles and Shadow. I don't know which should be in order let me try.
Rouge, Knuckles, Metal Sonic, and Shadow. While Metal isn't possessed but focused on killing Sonic.
The Diamond Thief GUN Agent, The Guardian Of The Master Emerald/Angel Island, The Metal Son, The Ultimate Lifeform four beings able to take down Sonic. Honestly Metal Sonic and Shadow would probably be the most difficult of bosses even compared to the boss from Adabat however it's spelt, the Egg Dragoon, and Dark Gaia and I never could bear Dark Gaia. I think on with versions long ago.
Just got back in my chair switched to mtv2. But honestly it be insane including Sonic in his werehog form trying to fight them using his new skills and trying to survive everything they throw at him. Such as Metal Sonic holding Sonic by the neck and dragging him to places smacking him against stuff even dragging him on the floor. Rouge using her flying skills and feet and anything else she has, and Knuckles using gliding and his fists even digging too okay like Rouge also. Then Shadow another one of the worst using his speed and if possible Chaos Control to teleport to kick Sonic's ass and even Chaos Blast to try to lay waste on him. Honestly if possible he could get one of the emeralds that haven't been drained.
Wanna say this and looked at the paragraph I just wrote I thought of this and when I was listening to music. Remember Night Of The Werehog that lovely short film. I was thinking you can play that as a new mission with a new boss. Yet honestly the way it is. I think I prefer of how it is just let it stay as short film. Maybe an easter egg or even mention about it that Sonic and Chip went to a haunted house and if possible the others like Tails and Amy finding out what happened.
Including I'm thinking and hoping it's canon. I thought maybe as a treat you can watch it on the game as an extra maybe as an unlockable you find the house some where and Sonic mentions what happened there. It's a cutscene but you can't go inside and you unlock short film.
Got ringtone pop up gone but honestly this all sounds amazing. Yet here's the problem if adding new content to the game.
Possibly the engine yet the main thing itself the levels, enemies, and voice actors. That may sound stupid considering what I've seem Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition and Gears Of War Ultimate Edition managed to add new content while working with the same game and keep voice actors.
Yet even some what the whole game Jason Griffin isn't the voice of Sonic anymore also I honestly enjoyed his voice acting as the games went on. Now we have Roger Craig Smith who I enjoy too can't believe I thought Andrew Garfield. But it's mainly like the others like Jason Griffin voicing Shadow again, Dan Green almost left Dam and Damn right now instead of Dan. Just honestly other stuff.
But honestly it's weird how I feel this may be troubling. Including just.....we have the Hedgehog Engine 2 for Sonic Forces. Would we have a completely different version of Sonic Unleashed with different voice actors and possibly gameplay. I'm sorry sounding stupid and weird.
Including I wanna say I also support the idea of Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 getting actual remakes like Resident Evil 1 did. Including Resident Evil 2 despite their hasn't been news on it in a long time. While the remake of the game was different it still respected the original but you can play in a new way. It was mainly better everything.
Yet I'm talking about a remastered version for Sonic Unleashed not a remake. Honestly I want Sega to try that crap out it would make them money. Including if dealt with proper respect and care.
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Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer, Issue #19: Crisis City (Part 1)
Crisis City (Part 1); not a story I really want to think about. It is actually quite controversial, especially for everyone who loves Shadow, myself included. However, I’m getting ahead of myself. For starters, I just wanted to note that I had decided to choose the Cover RI instead of the Cover A for this one, simply because I feel it fits the atmosphere better. Now, let’s dive into the actual story.
So, we start out with Rouge giving us a brief description of Sunset City, which has been not only destroyed by Eggman in Sonic Forces, but also overwhelmed by Zombots thanks to the Metal Virus. They’re basically dealing with a zombie apocalypse of epic proportions.
Sonic is speeding through the zombies, weaving between them and calling out for anyone to help them. The Zombots grab him, but he manages to fight them off. Honestly, the whole situation feels quite bleak and it is about to get worse.
Sonic spots people inside a building and attempts to smash through the Zombots to save them, only to have to dodge bullets rather than robots.
E-123 Omega is in the house and he isn’t messing around! Seeing all Zombots as a threat, he proceeds to just rain fire upon them. I know that some people feel annoyed by Omega for being so violent and destructive while quipping one-liners, but I love him for that. He’s the literal embodiment of the phrase: “Crush. Kill. Destroy. Swag.”
Sonic tries to stop him at first from hurting the Zombots, but after Omega presents him his logic, he just let’s it go. The Zombots are obviously hard to damage and Sonic is going to need all the help he can get. Since Omega is a robot, he cannot get infected by the Metal Virus, meaning that he can fight without any restrictions.
The two are spotted by Rouge, who is taking care of the evacuation. Sonic helps her, while Omega - *checks on him* ”EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!” - *nodding* is doing just fine on his own.
We then see the barricade around the Grand Gold Flicky Hotel, with Rouge and several guards holding their ground. Now, I’m sure some are wondering - where the hell is G.U.N.? Considering how TailsTube finally gave us a confirmation that humans and anthropomorphic animals live in the same world, that would mean that G.U.N. is supposed to be active as well, right? Well, as it turns out, Eggman decimated the military during Sonic Forces, so we aren’t going to see them anytime soon, if not at all.
Oh, and speaking of G.U.N., according to SEGA mandates, Team Dark’s affiliations with the organization had been retconned, meaning Team Dark has never worked with them (despite what we see in Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic the Hedgehog 2006). Honestly, I don’t really mind that retcon and I’m fine with Team Dark did their own thing without having to rely on a military organization, but what pisses me off are the additional mandates that state that Team Dark aren’t even friends.
So, according to SEGA, Team Dark’s storyline in Sonic Heroes and Rouge and Omega’s support of Shadow in Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 means absolutely nothing. I am not happy.
Moving on, Sonic tells Rouge that his infection is manageable as long as he keeps running and that the Zombots aren’t under Eggman’s control anymore. Rouge is not happy about these news.
After informing Sonic that Shadow went off to find their transportation, they see several people trapped behind the car barricade, with Sonic’s Chronic Hero Syndrome kicking in and him trying to help them, only to remind himself that he cannot touch them else he’ll doom the survivors. Things are getting hella tough for him.
He creates a tornado to deal with the Zombots and runs off, determined to not lose another friend. He encounters Omega and telling him that they cannot any Zombots past, with Omega informing him that he has too many targets and not enough bullets, as waves of Zombots come from both sides. Sonic suggests that he holds the line, which Omega interprets as a wall of bodies. Sonic is not amused, but he then gets distracted by a truck ramming through the Zombots.
The driver of the truck is none other than Shadow, whose expression reflects my current mood. Sonic tries to tease him, but Shadow just tells him to shut up.
Shadow then proceeds to blame Sonic, referring to their argument over Mr. Tinker and how none of this would’ve happened if Shadow had just destroyed Mr. Tinker. Sonic explains how this is Starline’s fault, but Shadow shows absolutely zero mercy. When Sonic points out how he is also infected, Shadow just replies how he deserved it.
Before I continue, I will address the Mr. Tinker/Dr. Eggman debate later on, don’t worry. For now, I have someone else I’d like to focus on.
Sonic is, understandably, pissed off at Shadow’s response, telling him he’ll go deal with his own infection and that he shouldn’t touch the Zombots. If he does get infected, he should be fast enough to run it off just like Sonic. This is where we get this infamous line:
“Cowards run. I win.”
*mutters* Keep it together Tenebrae. We are still not there... yet. *sighs*
Shadow then approaches Omega, telling him to safeguard the truck while Rouge helps the citizens evacuate. As for Shadow, he is fighting the Zombots by himself and so far, he’s doing well, mostly using his air shoes to keep them at bay.
As for Rouge and Omega, they’re making sure that everyone who is not infected gets in the truck, with Rouge spotting Shadow in the distance, using what I assume to be Chaos Spear. She then points out his recklessness.
This is followed by Shadow spin-dashing out of the Zombot crowd and kicking another one in the head. He shows some cockiness, noting that he’s just as resilient as the Zombots. Now, I don’t mind this. Even in Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow has shown to be overconfident, especially while fighting Sonic.
He also adds how the Metal Virus wouldn’t affect The Ultimate Lifeform, a line I’m not mad about either. It makes sense for Shadow to believe that the Metal Virus wouldn’t affect him. After all, Gerald Robotnik created him to be immortal and immune to all diseases. So, if Shadow is immune to ALL diseases, logic would dictate that he is also immune to the Metal Virus.
In short, this part is something that I’m completely fine with. If you guys don’t like it, that’s not my problem.
We switch over to Sonic, who has ran for the greener hills to get rid off the infection, looking quite winded from the constant running. This is really starting to take a toll on him and he is slowly getting desperate. He shakes his head, recalling his decision regarding Mr. Tinker, noting that only because someone did the wrong thing doesn’t mean he didn’t do the right thing and how Mr. Tinker did deserve a second chance. However, he is too busy to save the world for a proper introspective.
I share the sentiment, Sonic. I will dive into that issue when it becomes relevant again.
Back to Shadow, we see him spin-dashing through several Zombots, then promptly grabbing one and tossing him into the crowd, only to be shocked by the reveal that he had been infected.
Now, I will stop you right here. Honestly, I believe that the infection itself hasn’t started just because Shadow grabbed a Zombot and tossed him into the crowd, but it had been spreading during the battle and he hadn’t noticed. We already saw him spin-dashing into several of those (just like Sonic did with Tumble) and it is possible that he was more resilient to the virus than his peers, being The Ultimate Lifeform. You can even see on the panel below that the tips of his quills are also turning silver, which probably wouldn’t have happened if the infection spread from his arms.
What I’m not happy about is how reckless he became. He is in the middle of a zombie apocalypse and doesn’t think to keep distance between himself and the Zombots.
What you see here:
THAT IS ALL SEGA’S FAULT!
Shadow may be rash. Shadow my be driven. Shadow may rarely stray from the path he had chosen. BUT SHADOW IS NOT THIS GODDAMN STUPID!
Knuckles, please help me out here:
Thank you!
This one is directed towards you SEGA - STOP ACTING LIKE SHADOW IS GODDAMN KNOCK-OFF VEGETA AND LET HIM BE HIS OWN CHARACTER!
The Shadow I know would’ve actually listened to Sonic and Rouge. He would’ve understood their warning about running off the infection. He would’ve known to leave when he gets overwhelmed... or at least find another way out - not stay there and fight like an idiot!
Now, why am I blaming SEGA for this and not Ian Flynn? After all, he was the one who wrote this part. If you guessed SEGA mandates, you are correct, but there is a lot more to it than you think:
According to Ian Flynn, a specific incident involving Shadow's characterization when he's exposed to the Zombot infection was written in a specific way because of Sega mandating that he be written as an "overconfident asshole rival" character, similar to Vegeta. He later followed up with an explanation that out of every character, Shadow has the most mandates and notes attached to how he's portrayed. Luckily, he did manage to convince SEGA to have Shadow admit his faults in Issue 31, but even that scene had to be toned down a bit from what he wanted, though he didn't elaborate on how much. It's gotten to the point where Flynn stated he was less willing to write for Shadow until SEGA eases up their grip on him.
(Sonic the Hedgehog IDW/Executive Meddling)
I read Ian Flynn’s stories focused on Shadow when he was still writing for Archie and I loved Shadow’s portrayal there. It really felt like he finally had a direction after being aimlessly tossed around, and I’m fairly certain I can pinpoint the exact part in the story where SEGA took over and enforced their mandates, and I believe that this is it.
According to Ian Flynn, when someone asked him about it, he explained that the original plan was for Shadow to unlock his inhibitor rings and instead use the energy output from those to combat the infection as an alternative to running, which is a significantly less stupid idea, but Sega vetoed it, as they wanted Shadow's characterization to be written in a specific way (aka overconfident jerk rival, ala Vegeta).
(Sonic the Hedgehog IDW/What an Idiot)
I had read that Ian Flynn stated how he always planned to remove Shadow from the story, since he is one of the most powerful characters on the protagonists side, and making him a Zombot would raise the stakes. The only question was how.
Ian’s idea of Shadow using his Inhibitor Rings makes much more sense than him just continuing to fight back. After all, this power had proven to be useful against Mephiles’ clones (even if that past had been erased from history) and we would’ve also gotten insight into what else the Metal Virus can withstand. It would’ve been much more dramatic and I’m fairly certain that the fan backlash would’ve been lessened (and for those who still say Ian Flynn is to blame - this isn’t a fanfic; he’s working on a licensed property, meaning that he has people above him who dictate what he can and cannot write).
I apologize for my rant, but I’m sick and tired of this kind of disrespect towards a character I love. The one positive here is that I really love the art in this chapter (especially showing off Shadow’s tiny fangs), as well as the situation turning from bleak to a disaster after Shadow gets infected. However, the way we got here makes me want to go nuclear.
We see Rouge asking Omega to aid for Shadow, but he is unable to do so. We see Shadow being swallowed by the crowd of Zombots, a rather good portrayal of the mandates that are tied to his character, if you ask me. It is quite a tragedy.
Sonic finally arrives, with Rouge telling him to handle Shadow, only for Sonic to get grabbed by a robotic hand, slamming him against the truck.
We then see Shadow, now a full Zombot and about to wreak havoc. Just like what we had been dealing with the past years, his whole character is gone just because someone thought it would be a good idea to make a deep and complex character a Stock Shōnen Rival.
*sighs*
...
When it comes to Shadow, it feels like it is a tug-of-war between Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley and SEGA. Flynn and Stanley know how to write Shadow and they want to please the fans, with Ian even stating that he doesn’t want to write Shadow like this, but SEGA is refusing to listen to anyone; or they do and then try to overcorrect it when they experience backlash. I get it, they want Shadow to be written a certain way, but it really hurts to see a character who we know is better than this act like he has no idea what he is doing. Only because this is a beloved franchise by many people doesn’t mean that it is safe from criticism.
Honestly, my only food for thought here is something Game Apologist mentioned; all of the Sonic characters underwent a soft reboot in the recent years, Shadow included. This is how Shadow will be written from now on, whether we like it or not. I still do see some light in the dark, as there are moments where Shadow feels like a genuine character and I’m looking forward to these moments.
I also hope that Sonic Movie 3 will do Shadow some justice. If they succeeded with Tails and Knuckles (who also had received bad treatment over the years), they might also succeed with Shadow.
Lastly, this Issue was also what made me decide to write my own Sonic story. While it focuses on all the core characters (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Silver, Shadow, Metal Sonic, Dr. Eggman, and even Mephiles; for reasons you’ll find out eventually), it was written mostly with Shadow in mind and how he would develop as a person in these circumstances. If you read it, please let me know whether I succeeded in keeping his character consistent; even if the story is placed in an alternative universe.
Sayonara!
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Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer, Issue #17: Plague
After making a detour to Tangle and Whisper’s adventures, we’re back to the Metal Virus Saga, continuing with The Crisis City Arc. We can already see on the cover, where Sonic is surrounded by Zombots, that things are getting serious.
We meet up with Team Chaotix at the Chaotix Detective Agency in Seaside City. Vector has just gotten a call from Tails about Sonic being infected, Eggman being back and turning people into Zombots via the Metal Virus. Charmy freaks out, wondering if they’re coming for us, with Espio being convinced that they should stay alert, while Vector notes that they’ll be fine...
Then a Zombot busts right through their front door.
Espio fights back, but his kunai have no effect on them, and when Charmy attempts to attack them, Vector grabs him, warning him to not touch the Zombots as that is how the infection spreads.
They run outside, only to see the Faceship dropping off the Metal Virus, with everyone running around in panic. It kind of feels like the start of an apocalypse, and Team Chaotix cannot do anything to stop the Virus from spreading.
Charmy regretfully informs Vector and Espio that it’s too high for him to carry the two, with Vector assuring him that it’s fine and then just rips a STOP sign out of the ground and starts whacking the Zombots away, telling them to help people out while he calls Amy.
At the Restoration HQ, Amy is overwhelmed by the paperwork, only to learn about the Zombots outbreak. Amy promises a rescue shuttle, as well as sending someone to help them. Vector decides to take everyone to the docks, with Team Chaotix moving on to deal with the Zombots and saving civilians. Vector suddenly gets surrounded by Zombots, only for a familiar blue blur to save him.
Vector is a bit nervous being around the infected Sonic, but Sonic assures him that he’s safe as long as he doesn’t touch him. He also needs to stay on the move to keep the infection from spreading. While Team Chaotix leads everyone to the docks, Sonic will cover them. Vector also tells Sonic that next time Eggman regains his memories, he’s throwing him into a cell.
Don’t worry guys, I will cover that little tidbit soon enough, as I have a lot to say about it.
Meanwhile, Espio and Charmy rush past with a bunch of survivors and see a woman crying how she is safe, despite being infected, not wanting to be left behind.
Charmy and Espio have no idea what to do with her, with Vector providing the solution by literally lifting a bunch of cars and smashing them around her, imprisoning her in a makeshift car cage. It may look kind of over-the-top, if not even narmy, but honestly, I think it still fits the situation. They’re in the middle of a zombie apocalypse and even if there are infected survivors, the most they can do is to imprison them and make sure they won’t follow the ones that haven’t been infected yet.
Not to mention, it is a neat visual of Vector telling us that they cannot save everyone unless they want to doom the survivors. Charmy is pissed off at Vector for leaving the lady behind, but Vector tells him the uninfected ones are their priority and they would come back for the infected ones later. Espio notes how no one is happy about this situation, especially Vector.
We then see Sonic saving a couple, being relieved to see the rescue shuttle and that the evacuation is in progress.
Sonic notices that the infection has already spread across his body, feeling regret that he cannot protect anyone in this state and runs off. He sees the Faceship, but he cannot do anything aside from running.
Sonic runs outside Seaside City, forcing himself to go faster and faster so he can return as soon as possible to help and we can see the raw emotion on his expression as this whole ordeal slowly takes a toll on his psyche.
Meanwhile, Team Chaotix have managed to barricade the docks so the survivors can go inside the evacuation shuttle, only for Charmy to fly off.
He still wants to save the lady that was trapped by Vector, and Espio and Vector can only scream after him to return. Charmy does have a big heart, but at this point, it is clear that your kind heart alone won’t protect you. Unfortunately for Charmy, this situation calls for being pragmatic (oh, and speaking of pragmatic, we are getting soon to that part).
Charmy manages to find the lady, but she has already turned into a Zombot. He dodges her grip, but another one grabs him, dragging him down as Charmy screams for Vector and Espio to help him. However, we know that he is gone and there is nothing that can be done.
Vector and Espio inform Sonic about Charmy’s situation, with Vector wanting to find him and Espio trying to keep him put. Sonic promises to look for him as the evacuation shuttle flies away, Seaside City having fallen to the Zombots.
The last panel we have is that of a helpless Vector and Espio, probably already knowing that Charmy may have already become a Zombot; and there is nothing they can do about it.
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Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer, Issue #14: Misdirection
We move on to the next story in the arc, this time featuring Dr. Starline and Metal Sonic as Sonic and Silver’s opponents. This should be fun!
We start with Sonic & Silver at Frozen Peak, with Silver saying how he encountered someone who told him about an Eggman Base, with the two eventually coming across it. However, just as Sonic and Silver attempt to attack the Badniks, they get surprised by Metal Sonic, who knocks both of them down.
Sonic and Silver fight Metal, with Silver eventually immobilizing him with his psychokinesis, only for Metal to disappear through a wormhole, much to their shock. As they look up, they see Starline standing next to the base, with Silver recognizing him as the guy who tipped him off.
Starline then starts to rant about objective in a rather poetical manner (with Metal even giving him a side eye), with Silver assuring Sonic that he didn’t sound this creepy nor crazy when Starline talked to him. Sonic figures that Starline was the one behind Rough and Tumble’s escape and questions him about Mr. Tinker, with Starline confirming his fears - Eggman is back!
Speaking of which, Eggman is still working on the Metal Virus, using a fully infected Pocky to speed up a Ricky’s infection.
He is quite satisfied with the results, only to get interrupted by Rough and Tumble, who want another chance at beating up Sonic, so Eggman decides to introduce them to his newest weapon.
Meanwhile, Sonic and Silver get involved into another fight with Metal Sonic, whom Silver eventually throws far across the snowy mountains. The two then go after Starline, who opens a portal via a Warp Topaz, causing Sonic and Silver to faceplant into the snow.
Sonic continues the fight, only for Starline to create a portal that drops him over a cliff. Silver quickly flies through to save Sonic, with Starline closing it, welcoming Metal Sonic back.
After Silver saves Sonic, Sonic tells Silver to use his psychokinesis to hold onto him and he uses his super speed to return back to Starline, with Silver having a lot of fun. Meanwhile, Starline notes how their job is done and decides to wait a bit for Sonic to return, being disappointed when they don’t... only for Sonic to spin-dash into him.
At this point, Sonic looks positively pissed off, demanding answers from Starline about Eggman. I just wanted you to show this panel noting that, while Sonic according to the SEGA mandates isn’t supposed to be “overly emotional”, this still doesn’t mean that he won’t show some stronger emotions when he gets serious.
Silver flies into the base to find the supposed information regarding Eggman, only for Starline to reveal to Sonic that he tricked them and the code would active an explosion. Sonic quickly rushes to save Silver, which is then followed by a huge explosion.
Starline is delighted that Sonic and Silver were supposedly killed (and I want you to keep his interaction with Sonic in mind for later), opening a portal to the main Eggman Base, only to get grabbed by Eggman by the throat, who then RAMS Starline into the container with the infected critters, cracking the glass. Yeah, this is foreshadowing.
Eggman is pissed off at Starline for attempting to destroy Sonic, saying how he’ll be the one to take down the blue hedgehog. He notes how he could carpet bomb him any day, but this is not what he wants - he wants Sonic to suffer, to prove his own superiority. Starline apologizes, looking rather frightful.
This interaction kind of reminds me of Archie!Eggman and Wily’s argument in Worlds Collide, where Wily went off on Archie!Eggman for almost killing Thomas Light, as he didn’t want to murder the man, just making him suffer. Sure, IDW!Eggman wants to destroy Sonic, but he still wants to do it his own way; the proper way. It also explains why Eggman just doesn’t use all of his robots and weapons to end Sonic’s life, focusing instead on elaborate plans.
Eggman then reveals that Sonic and Silver survived the explosion, questioning Starline why he unloaded the junk at that base, with Starline basically replying how he just wanted to keep the stuff Eggman collected around. Eggman then wonders how operating on the field affected Starline, with the latter answering how this experience put a lot of things into a new perspective.
Honestly, I love Starline as a villain, but unlike veterans like Eggman and Sonic, it appears that he’s still tapping in the dark, lacking in experience, and it is quite interesting how this side of his character progresses.
Back at Restoration HQ, we find out that Silver had been too weakened by the explosion, with Sonic and Amy telling him to rest. They then do some research on Eggman’s next move, deciding to tap into his network from an unguarded base. Sonic then picks Amy up and speeds off.
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Some random Sonic movie sequel stuff
So this is something I wanted to make. Yet I guess for almost an hour or I forgot. I remember my last reblog and that net neutrality is important. Yet I was thinking of reblogging this post about it again after I make this.
This is just random and about that Reddit leak about what the 2019 movies story will be about. I remember talking to myself about it playing Sonic Forces talking about and spoilers basically imagine the sequel well a comment I thought said Metal Sonic and Shadow in the sequel g. But it was about Knuckles and Metal Sonic...or Shadow....just.....
Basically spoilers the leak mentions a post credits scene revealing Metal Sonic which did make me smile. Including today was thinking okay if they are gonna take liberties with the movie which is alright.
I seriously thought of this....just...Shadow's in the movie too but he's important.
Yet was thinking of just....I'll make the joke now.
Sonic: we saved the world from Perfect Chaos and Dr. Eggman and we're heroes.
Dr. Eggman: well guess what surprise surprise, I made a robotic version of you with it's only purpose in life to kill you.
Sonic: oh crap.
Dr. Eggman: not also that I even found out some secrets about a project from my grandfather Gerald Robotnik, stuff about Project Shadow and the Space Colony Ark. His name is Shadow and he's gonna kick your ass too.
Sonic: oh double crap.
Shadow: screw you all, my sister my family Maria died for no reason at all. The world needs to know my suffering of what it feels like to lose family after everything I've been through. Including she was just a kid with a disease called NIDS that couldn't be cured.
Sonic: oh triple crap and that's sad bro. Yet would your sister really approve of that and you becoming the monster you so desperately hate and want to destroy.
Metal Sonic: screw everything, my father doesn't love me, I can't do what I've been programmed to do. I HATE EVERYTHING AND IM GONNA DESTROY EVERYTHING IN HOPES OF KILLING SONIC FINALLY AND MAKE MY OWN DESTINY!
Sonic:....uhhhh a lot of crap.
Knuckles: you guys stole my Master Emerald.
Dr. Eggman: yet Sonic is the villain.
Knuckles: screw that I was forgotten in this joke and the guy writing realized he forgotten about me. Yet that's maybe the story maybe for me to go with me being introduced. Yet even though you have a robotic evil Sonic that should and would make me question you of how evil it looks compared to Sonic.
Metal Sonic: I HATE EVERYTHING SONIC MUST DIE ALL LIVING THINGS KNEEL BEFORE YOUR MASTER! *turns into Metal Madness and to Metal Overlord*
Sonic: oh shit that's a lot of crap we have to deal with. *Him and Shadow turn super*
Shadow: where's the Biolizard right now screw that. In Sonic Adventure 2 I realized I'm a big asshole and becoming the monster I want to destroy so I'm gonna scarifice myself to save everyone. Also the guy writing this almost put me turning super but decided to put it under Sonic's line before me.
Sonic: oh wait Shadow don't do that. I'm gonna scarifice myself instead.
*record sound stops*
Shadow: wait what the hell why. *Shadow looking confused and putting his hands like why or whatever this confused what the fuck face*
Sonic: because so instead of you in a way dying and possibly well will come back. I'm gonna scarifice myself or basically try to destroy or basically some how kill Metal Sonic to show everyone that I'm a true hero. Along with the idea the world is doubting me, their blaming me for Eggman, the battles we've fought that have caused destruction. Including blaming my existence of Metal Sonic even existing. Including me at a point I'm starting to lose myself, some times angry and acting different. Along with believing does the world really need me. But it ends with me realizing I need to do that right thing even if it costs me life. To show I don't care about that but I care more about people.
Shadow:......umm wow.
Sonic: including when the guy was writing my last paragraph before you just talked. He remembered about putting Tikal in here to make sure Chaos from the last movie still had that sort of back story. Including thought I talk to her at times she appears at times and it's weird man still thinking.
Shadow: okay but seriously your gonna die in the sequel the 2nd movie!
Sonic: kind of yet I'm gonna disappear mainly and it's gonna look like I died. But actually I guess the idea some what in the process is me using Chaos Control on Metal Sonic to send him some where else. Yet in a way he some what stabs me and you get a visual reference of you falling down like in SA2 but instead you basically see what is happening to me. While it's close to the ground still in the sky, everyone hears my death scream it's so loud that the whole city hears it's maybe Station Square need to think or Metropolis or some shit. Also probably Blaze in the Sol Dimension and maybe Classic Sonic from his dimension.
Shadow:....you can't be serious.
Sonic: no I'm serious bro or 50 plus years old bro lol don't worry I'll probably be in a different place maybe Blaze's dimension or some shit but the Classic dimension I don't know a Sonic Mania movie seems better first before the third film. Anyway see you in the next film! *Flies off waving his right hand and just smiles as he says that last line. After that Shadow just watches in confusion with no facial expression but just like what even as a very bright yellow light shines like an explosion and Sonic's and Metal's screams are heard and everyone hears too and like Shadow too maybe*
Metal Sonic: oh I am dead or just very damaged just I'm down. *Falls on the front side of his body all damaged and some pieces fall apart too. But in Neo Metal Sonic form too.
Shadow: what the hell was that.
Blaze: seriously what is this.
Classic Sonic: I'm questioning this too.
Infinite: I'm the main villain of the next film. The whole world is depressed that Sonic is basically dead in a way. While me and Eggman rule the world I some how have Shadow and Chaos and Metal Sonic is back with us. But he's real. Yet Tikal is pissed and just appears when Chaos is fake. Also theirs no Zavok because their isn't much of him and we haven't introduced him yet. Including screw you Shadow for beating me up, my team leaving me, and everyone being so happy screw everything, I HATE THE WORLD AND HAPPINESS AND WEAKNESS IM NOT WEAK! ALL HOPE IS LOST HOPE IS FOR THE WEAK AND FAMILY IS FOR THE WEAK!
Sonic: hey you big asshole of a jerk with a cool song still. You and Eggman are going down.
Buddy/Gadget/Rookie: I'm gay for Sonic or something like that or even like brothers like Tails. Yet I feel quite gay for Sonic he really inspired me to be brave and fight back.
Shadow:.....this is just so confusing right now.
I think I'll leave Shadow as that and before Sonic explaining his role in the sequel where Shadow asks about it well Sonic's first big paragraph. I changed the channel to Boomerang.
Basically was thinking of BVS and even thought of, "This Is My World" from the soundtrack. I thought of this at Walmart and even thought of how sad and emotional that would be. Including listened to the track at home which I am at home now.
Also the idea that Shadow is surprised and in a way inspired and shocked by Sonic's scarifice which is something almost like Maria's scarifice and shows Shadow the world's different something and not everyone is bad....
This is BVS but I've finally thought of the perfect some what story okay how we gonna get it through with people of how Sonic is important and how selfless he is and cares more about everyone and it even makes characters think about their lives and how some could change them for the better.
While the Reddit leak it's unknown if it's true or not. It's the only biggest piece of information we have for the movie and I seriously thought of a sequel might be. Even of how crazy it is.
Basically okay or my head like the script I want to see the movie and I'm just happy or still happy theirs some sort of information to work with.
Including it's basically Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Heroes into one better or something and remembered Sonic 3 and just remembered Sonic And Knuckles and some shit like that.
Got tags down and almost left the word rags I'm sorry to bother and remember I'm gonna reblog something after this.
#sonic movie 2019#sonic the hedgehog#shadow the hedgehog#metal sonic#dr eggman#knuckles the echidna#sonic adventure 2#sonic heroes#tikal the echidna#blaze the cat#classic sonic#infinite the jackal#sonic mania#chaos zero#neo metal sonic#buddy the wolf#gadget the wolf#rookie the wolf
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Infinite's An Asshole
Just saying I’ve been thinking about this for some time and even mentioned in my last post about Chaos in Sonic Forces. Including when searching up Tumblr infinite sonic forces I’ve decided and even thought more when liking some stuff of finally making this.
Including I thought of making more where it’s other characters from other forms of media.
I know with the lyrics in Infinite’s theme seems like he has a tragic back story. Which seems very nice I like that. Yet what your about to read is very harsh yet funny. The characters even make some 4th wall mentions because they don’t give a shit. Including just I keep thinking Infinite is just the biggest asshole…also it may have some of my own thoughts in it.
Please be aware of not just spoilers but very…brutal and kind of dark things said in this that might bother you. Yet supposed to be done in a funny way.
Infinite to Shadow.
Infinite: Your whole existence is the reason why everyone on the Ark died. You are basically the reason why Maria died. Basically you killed your own family by existing.
Shadow: *looking disgusted and pissed off* how dare you.
Infinite to Sonic.
Infinite: Your up beat positivity and outlook on life sickens me. One of these days your gonna break down and realize how much of a failure you are. Your the reason why I exist and why the world’s gone to shit being taken over by Eggman and me. It’s all your fault.
Sonic:…the game hasn’t released yet and I don’t know if I know you in anyway. Also the breaking down thing I’m feeling depressed at times I’ll think about it…or wait till I see what the game has to offer.
Infinite to Chaos.
Infinite: All Chao’s deserve to die. Your a piss ass guardian and Chao’s are weak and deserved to be slaughtered to out right extinction.
*Chaos now instead of one middle finger and now puts up his arms, forms huge hands and puts up both middle fingers with his eyes looking like he’s pissed*
Infinite to Metal Sonic.
Infinite: You a weak copy of the real Sonic. You will never beat him and never be the real Sonic. Your life is filled with misery, your father hates you because you fail to do the one thing you were born to do. I’m surprised you haven’t decided to end your life yet. You will always the worst thing Eggman has ever built.
Metal Sonic: Must…kill…now. *puts up both middle fingers and his red eyes flash*
Infinite to Zavok.
Infinite: Nobody will give a shit about your achievements in Sonic Lost World. You will always be forgotten and never considered one of the greats. Even people didn’t know who you were in the E3 trailer. Shows how much of an impact you left because you hardly left an impact.
Zavok: *sigh* it’s true. *He looks down to the ground just being all depressed as fuck*
Infinite to Dr. Eggman.
Infinite: I find it embarrassing of working for you despite the game isn’t out yet. I don’t care how threatening you are and what achievements you’ve done in your life. Your a weak villain who can never beat Sonic until now and you had my help. I’m surprised you haven’t committed suicide yet. In fact Ken Penders is more of a villain then you and we all hate him.
Dr. Eggman: Orbot hold my beer. *Left hand gives beer to Orbot* Exuse me while I get the Egg Dragoon and kill this sorry exuse of a villain WHO SAID KEN PENDERS WAS MORE OF A VILLAIN THEN ME!
Infinite to Silver.
Infinite: I honestly feel sorry for you. Your birth is so tainted in a game were sick of joking about. Yet our memory still stays strong remembering your horrible exuse of a debut. Unless Sega and Sonic Team reinvents you in canon. You’ll forever be taunted and your potential will never be reached and remain as a joke forever.
Silver: I’m sorry ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE ME CRY! *Has tears being formed in his eyes*
Infinite to Mephiles. Had to look on Google twice for Mephile’s name.
Infinite: I don’t care what people say. You were never the greatest Sonic villain. Your such a dumbass that you would of killed Elise at any chance. I don’t care if you wanted to be an asshole just for the sake of it. The way you are written. Also even when Elise dies old everyone’s gonna die anyway. Your plan is so flawed…you just fucking suck and the game you debuted in sucks.
Mephiles: *sigh* I know. *Like Zavok just looks to the ground being depressed as all fuck*
Infinite to Classic Sonic.
Infinite: I don’t care if your pandering. You have no exuse to me here with your pandering ass even if I talked about that. Your a God damn punk ass who was inspired by Mickey Mouse and Felix The Cat and might never speak in this game maybe.
*Classic Sonic just looks sad with tears forming in his eyes. Along with his mouth being messy*
Infinite to Buddy the wolf the custom character.
Infinite: YOU FUCKING SUCK YOU DON’T DESERVE TO BE IN THIS GAME! WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING HERE! THEY SHOULD OF LET ME BE THE THIRD PLAYABLE CHARACTER! YOU DON’T DESERVE TO BE EXISTING AND NEVER SHOULD OF EVEN BEING IN THIS GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE! I’LL BE ALMOST SICKENED IF IM RELATED TO YOU BECAUSE YOU DESERVE NO LOVE JUST NOTHING!
*Buddy just falls to the ground crying sobbing uncontrollably kind of like a baby but in his own voice*
Sonic: Jesus Christ Infinite what the fuck is wrong with you!
Infinite: What I’m an asshole!
Sonic: You didn’t have to make him cry like that my God seriously you made him feel more like shit then the others.
Infinite: I’ve been wanting to save the worse for him cause he deserves it.
Sonic: This is just GeekGem speaking isn’t it.
Infinite: What if GeekGem is Infinite.
Sonic: What.
Infinite: Or Jessie Eisenberg is Infinite.
Sonic: GOD DAMN IT INFINITE CAN YOU WAIT UNTIL THE GAME IS OUT!
Infinite: Damn it I just hope I’m really cool and I pick up buildings and throw them at people and me screaming I AM THE DEVIL I AM SATAN! Yeah I need to chill out and wait but I’m still an asshole.
Sonic: Damn it just Jesus Infinite.
Went to tags by mistake on that last part when choosing the word Infinite. To be honest the Classic Sonic part I don’t mind as long as they well the dimensions thing is an explanation.
Yet the custom character. I actually said in my head looked when making the you don’t deserve to be in this game I thought in my head or some shit the design looks cool. Seriously my head saying random shit okay it does don’t lie to self.
I’ve even made a post saying when I play the game I will make my own opinion about if I like the custom character or not. Saying I will not do anything special by just making the custom character look like what he’s been looking like. Because I rather not give a shit. Just don’t like to myself I could hate it or not.
We just have to wait and see. I wanted to make these pretty maybe not as harsh ha normal to smile yet well the funny parts are of how characters react Infinite’s insulting basically roasting them.
Well got tags down and forgot to mention Sonic Mania fuck it that looks good as fuck just as Sonic Forces and some new messages 4 by the same person scared me when getting the tags down.
edit this is funny read what I typed. Also fixed oh to or on the Jessie Eisenberg part
#sonic the hedgehog#sonic forces#sonic forces infinite#sonic infinite#sonic forces custom character#buddy the wolf#classic sonic#shadow the hedgehog#chaos#metal sonic#dr. eggman#silver the hedgehog#mephiles the dark
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