#and then it's ONLY on the date that Tommy finds out Buck had no clue about his sexuality

[apartmentsmoke]

thinking about why Tommy didn't reach back out to Buck after the tour, and what I've landed on is this: Tommy was thinking about it from a potential romance/date scenario from the get-go and thought the ball was in Buck's court.

at this point, Tommy has no idea that Buck believes he's straight; all he knows is that Buck called him up for a tour, but he doesn't know why - he even asks Buck about it twice, and Buck can't really articulate an answer (because he doesn't know the real why himself). but Buck seems into him - he's flirting, Tommy's testing the waters and flirting back and he's getting a good response, so he drops the flying lessons invitation. and then the cute guy asks him out for a beer! hey, this is great, except for the plans he's already had and isn't going to bail on. but Tommy's thinking, hey, Buck's got his number so he'll reach out if he's still interested.

and then he doesn't reach out! so Tommy thinks, okay, maybe he wasn't interested after all, a little disappointing but it's fine, even if Buck's not into him he's still made a new friend in Eddie. then basketball happens, and it's a group activity and Tommy has no idea Buck is there for him specifically, that Buck doesn't even like basketball.

when Tommy goes to have the conversation with Buck - it's only during the conversation that he realizes, I was right all along, this guy is into me and I'm into him, and I'm not letting another opportunity with him pass by. so he shoots his shot and it's a unqualified success - Buck kisses him back and agrees to a dinner date. everything's coming up Tommy

[thatmexisaurusrex]

The First Evan

Hey, people! Never thought I'd be writing a Buck 1.0/Recently Out Tommy fic, but here I am. And it's a multichapter fic 😂 It's based on this microfic. This is also for @bucktommyweek's prompt "Date Night" (it will get to date night, I swear). I hope y'all enjoy! 🥰

The First Evan

| Pairing: BuckTommy | Rated: M | WC: 68.3K | Chapters: 16/16 |

Summary: Tommy Kinard recently came out to the entirety of the 118 during a drinking night... only to take a month-long vacation. When he gets back, there's a new probie - Evan "Buck" Buckley. And Tommy is doing his damnedest not to have a crush on that straight guy.

Excerpt:

“Shit. He did it again! I can’t believe the probie did it again!” yelled Chimney as he rushed out of the locker room. “He can’t be that far, let’s go!” said Hen as she ran to catch up with Chimney. Tommy. Had no fucking clue what was going on, but he was going to help. “What?” asked Tommy, genuinely confused, “What did he do?” “Fucker just stole the engine again for sex,” stage-whispered Chimney as he glanced up at the office to make sure Nash wasn’t watching them sprint outside, “He’s probably parked it somewhere nearby. Maybe if we find him quick, Bobby won’t notice.” Sex. He. He was having sex in the engine? “The probie is having sex where we work?” asked Tommy, a little horrified.

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[tevanbuckley]

what do you think is the sweetest and most well written part of Buck and Tommy's relationship? When they kissed in the first episode they had any kind of meaningful interaction or when Tommy ditched Buck on the curb after their first date and Buck somehow ended up feeling like the asshole about it. If that's a sweet and well written relationship Eddie and Marisol are When Harry Met Sally.

Oh no! They kissed after one episode! How could I forget the only way to write a good on screen romance is to spend at least half a season having them dance around their feelings with enough space for the holy ghost?

And yeah tommy left buck (a grown man in his 30s btw) outside the restaurant, because rather than just not mention they were on a date, buck made up a very weird and uncomfortable lie. bffr that's a "yeah sorry, I just got a text my grandma died," level red flag. I'd have clocked out at the ally comment, and tommy managed to turn that around into flirting!

But anyway thanks for the opportunity to list some sweet bucktommy details so far:

just buck's entire face when he talks to/about tommy, that man is smitten! ((x) if you need visual proof). he has the world's biggest crush on his boyfriend and i want him to be insufferable about it!

tommy's little "so that was okay?" after their kiss kills me every time, it's gentle but also confident and forward (which i think compliments buck's personality very well)

I mean tommy felt so bad about being the cause of problems between buck and eddie, he went to buck's house in person to apologise.

speaking of gentle. Evan. I need, need someone to pick tim minear's brain about the decision to have tommy consistently call him evan, the implications are driving me insane.

the way their relationship is tied up with, imo, one of the most interesting coming out arcs i've seen on tv in years. bi buck is very special to me and like it or not tommy is a part of that.

I love the detail of buck getting tommy's order wrong, they could've easily gone the "omg, you got my order right the first time, we're meant to be!" route, but imo there's something refreshing about showing love as this thing you have to work to build vs something that magically happens to you.

and the invisible string/full circle symbolism potential is insane. The fact chimney saved tommy's life, the parallel of tommy needing to leave the 118 to find himself which in turn left a spot in the exact place buck needed to do the same. The way buck is the reason that chimney meets maddie and then years later chim (potentially) returns the favour. They've stumbled into a writing goldmine here and i think they'd be fools to waste it.

look i'll readily admit i've no clue where they might be taking bucktommy, tbh i don't think tim minear knows, but they've sure as hell crammed a lot of potential into those 2 + a bit episodes. That's what people are responding to.

[lemotmo]

No clue if you've received this one yet but I like this one a lot.

Q. You can hate him but you really don't think that breakup came out of nowhere? It was insanely fast. And weird and just strange overall.

A. The pacing of the entire episode was fast. But that's because they tried to work in too many calls amongst the personal stories and they shouldn't have done that. The only reason they used the cut call from 7x4 was because without it Athena wouldn't' have been in the episode at all. There is no other explanation for why they had to use that call. There were too many calls. That was the problem. Sometimes a character driven episode is needed and good and that should have been a character driven episode only. But for whatever reason they're trying to work in all of these calls that call back to bigger Buck or Eddie calls. They're doing it again next week. With the lightning and rollercoaster callback. What we don't yet know is why. But you all are trying to find depth in a breakup for a relationship that had no depth. It was a relationship in name only. It existed only to get Buck out. The entire point of Tommy's character was his dialogue in the breakup scene. Everything else in that scene was irrelevant. But even Buck's part of the conversation made sense for Buck's character. He's not sure what he feels so he decided to overcommit and just jump instead of trying to figure out what it is he really feels. That's relationship Buck through and through. Nothing about him was weird in that scene. Most of us have said from the beginning that all Tommy is is Buck's male Abby. The show allowed Buck to confirm that. They literally had him say she was a transformative relationship for me and so are you. Abby was his introduction to adult relationships. Tommy was his introduction to male relationships. That's it. It's not deeper than that. So there's no need for their breakup to be deeper than that. Buck only sounded crazy because there are only two people in the world who speak Buckense and their names are Evan Buckley and Eddie Diaz. So even though what Buck was saying made perfect sense to him, and story wise, it sounded insane to Tommy and the audience.

It feels more like Tim extended the Tommy part longer than he should have or meant too and they reached a point where they ran out of later. I feel like they're headed towards a particular story point and for whatever reason they needed some time between Buck being single and whatever is coming in the mid season finale. But the breakup has been signposted since day one. So calling it rushed is incorrect. The anniversary date was a disaster. The writing was on the wall. There was no need to drag it out.

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[ranbling]

You realize that Tommy has made amends with Chim and Hen and they both are at the very least friendly with him, right? If either of them still held a grudge, would they call him "so cool", play basketball with him, go out to drink with him, buy him a cake and goof around with him, have him as a wedding guest, smile and giggle when they find out he's dating their close friend, and joke around with him like they're giving him a shovel talk regarding said friend? Would either of them have a problem at all with telling Buck they don't want to be around Tommy if that was how they felt? Of course not.

See, these are called context clues and they're meant to show us, the viewers, what the situation is without telling us. There is absolutely nothing in canon to suggest that either Chim or Hen has a problem with Tommy, quite the opposite, they've been shown as very friendly.

1. Chimney played basketball with Tommy because Buck invited him not Tommy. He had no idea Tommy will be there

2. Go out for a drink with him: that was a work function. The whole point of going out for drinks was to include Bobby and get him to open up. In Hen Begins, Chimney says that nobody from the 118 invites the asian guy

3. Chimney did not had Tommy as a wedding guest, he was Buck's plus one. He, personally, wasn't invited. And he sure as hell wasn't a guest at Henren's vow renewal

4. Nobody giggled when they found out he's dating Buck? The most Hen did was a smirk, but it's more for Buck figuring out his sexuality. Maddie actually gave a big sigh as a reaction

5. If you think Henren's shovel talk was a friendly banter, please watch again the scene. Please. Hen and Karen were clearly hostile towards Tommy (and they had good reason to be)

6. Hen and Chimney canonically had no contact with Tommy after he left the 118. Well, Chimney did talked to him once, but that was for work. They're not friends.

See, I do not believe that a racist character should be forgiven because "he must have done all the work off-screen". But, if you want to talk about context clues?

Chimney and Hen hasn't talked with Tommy since he left the 118. Tommy left Buck on the curb, after he told him he understands how Buck is nervous about being out. He couldn't be bothered to dress up for the bachelor party. He couldn't understand Buck and Bobby's relationship. He is a racist, sexist asshole (oh wait, this is not context clue, this is actually spelled out in the begins).

Guess I should forget Gerrard too right? He was only a hardass in s8ep1, but he wasn't racist! He was equally terrible to everyone. Guess he worked on himself off-screen and now he's not racist!

[queerweewoo]

SATURDAY SNIPPET

tagged by the wonderful @playinginthunderstorms—thanks, charlie! everyone can find their brilliant snippet HERE

this is another few paragraphs of my—finished and now just in need of editing!—eddie pov fic that is my buck coming out to eddie rewrite i've been working on for the last couple of days xp (if you want, you can have a butchers at the other excerpt i posted from it HERE)

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Like an idiot, Eddie attempts to confirm what Buck already told him.

“So, you two were…”

For some reason, he can't get the rest of the words out.

“We were on a date. Yes.”

Buck's smiling, and Eddie wants to hug him for how happy he looks about the whole thing, only a little bit more than he wants to grab his friend's face in both hands and irrationally scream what is happening to us? until his voice is hoarse.

Whatever an out of body experience feels like, Eddie reckons it might be something akin to this. And he knows how dramatic he's being, he does, but he can't seem to stop—even if he is at a complete loss as to why.

“Okay.”

Eddie's then nodding, only he doesn't really know what he's nodding at.

Buck asks, “Is that weird?”

At once, he insists, “No. Absolutely not,” even though he feels it is, for some reason, weird. Not because being queer is weird, because no, fuck no, of course it fucking isn't. Maybe it's just because...

Because?

Why, exactly, Eddie has no clue.

He feels so, so lost.

The forest is a deep dark place, something hiding behind his ribcage mumbles before scuttling off to bury itself some place even further inside of Eddie's gunshot chest.

Is it Tommy, specifically, he wonders, because he's Eddie's new sparring pal and maybe now he won't be? He digs for a reason as to why that would bother him, but comes up empty handed.

And Tommy, he seems like a good guy.

Which is why Eddie is fairly perturbed when he pictures Tommy's face and it makes him wish he had the power of materialisation, to get the LAFD air support pilot to appear, here and now in Buck's kitchen, so he can sock the fucker in the stupid chiseled jaw with his best right hook, right in front of Buck.

Jesus, what the hell is wrong with him?

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[blazinghotfoggynights]

It is totally possible to be a Buddie endgamer AND still support Buck/Tommy. It's possible to never be shaken from your stance as Buck and Eddie being soulmates while supporting every relationship they have been in, regardless of how dysfunctional it was.

Here's my take:

I want to see both Buck and Eddie explore life and find their true paths independently of each other, Christopher, and the 118. They are more than just each other's best friend/coparent, Christopher's fathers, and firefighters/part of the 118 family.

Since we know there is a season 8, and I would guess a season 9+ if these ratings keep up, it would be awesome to watch a full season, or more, of character evolution. We could watch Buck dating both men and women openly, learning his value, and discovering what he wants for his future.

Buck, as Bobby pointed out, doesn't enter into relationships of his own accord. He stumbles and falls into them without a clue how he got there. One day, he wakes up and he's someone's boyfriend or living with someone and isn't sure how it happened. Buck simply goes wherever someone will accept him. He misconstrues that acceptance and tolerance as genuine romance, feelings, and love.

Abby was bored and lonely and horny. I could say a lot about that relationship. If the motivation strikes, I may post about how that relationship was toxic and manipulative on Abby's part. If there are any Abby fans, you need to know your girl was showing some tendencies that were red flags.

Ali? Buck was single. She showed interest. That's it.

Taylor? Great sex and she kept coming back to Buck. She was there for all the wrong reasons and had questionable morals, but she was there. That was enough for Buck.

Natalia, again, was simply in front of Buck. She was obviously only interested in Buck's death, not Buck as a person, but Buck didn't care. He tried to make it work anyway because Natalia gave him time and attention.

So, we have an established pattern of Buck dating whoever will give him the time of day when he needs it most.

Enter Tommy. Buck is feeling left out. He's probably slipping into loneliness and spiraling because he feels the most important person in his life for the last six years is being taken away from him. (That's Eddie, for those in the back.)

Tommy shows up, sees Buck is spiraling, and kisses him. (Tommy fans, canon has established that Tommy has bad guy capabilities. Stop trying to gaslight the fans who are saying he may not be the good guy his sudden fandom claims he is. He isn't and Hen and Chimney forgiving him doesn't change that. People who are capable of consciously being a-holes are just a-holes. Mmkay?) He doesn't just hit on Buck. He physically initiates contact, giving Buck no doubt the man is open to other men. He showed Buck attention in a moment of crisis and he's a safe option after Buck openly admitted he was jealous and trying to get attention.

Buck stumbles into the next relationship. (Again, I could examine that situation, but if I do, it will be in a separate post.)

The show could give us Eddie admitting he let the expectations and influences of third parties control his destiny and he has no idea who Edmundo Diaz really is outside of what was expected of him, what he was taught, and what he did out of a sense of duty instead of doing what he wanted to.

He was with Shannon because she was pregnant and the right thing to do, per their parents and his faith, was marry her. I think he loves her for giving him his son, but nothing he has ever said or done indicates he was in love with her. I think he thinks he was. I think he wanted to be.

He was with Ana because Christopher needed a mother, per what he was told and taught, and she had an impressive resume and knew Christopher.

He is with Marisol because she fits the perfect mold of what his parents would like and she gets along with Christopher.

Should we talk about Eddie's relationships timing up perfectly with when Buck enters a relationship? No?

That man has never once in six seasons made a believable statement about genuine attraction to or sexual enjoyment with women. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have straight male friends who are in their 20s or 30s, you know you will be subjected to more details about their sexual history than you ever wanted to know. (Many of my close friends historically have been straight men. Conversations with them have been interesting and eye-opening. Sometimes traumatic, too, but I knew what I signed up for when I became their friend.)

Eddie canonically is in his early 30s and has been on the screen since his late 20s, but went without sex for years, never seemed to miss it, and now he's suddenly "pent up"? That is not the whole story and there is more going on there.

I'd love to see Eddie figure out he isn't into Marisol and hasn't been into anyone genuinely, except maybe Shannon. There could easily be a demisexuality arc for Eddie. Keep in mind, the term demisexuality was coined less than 20 years ago and is still not widely known. Eddie could spend a season, or more, working through the feelings he's ignored or been unable to put into words, dealing with overbearing parents, and how his faith has quietly, and unbeknownst to him, guided his choices. He could spend a long time wondering why he never feels an instant connection with anyone, except Buck and Tommy. (You seeing a pattern here?) This season has openly pointed out Eddie is in therapy.

The road to Buddie can be filled with satisfying detours, aka other relationships, leading to the realizations that open their eyes to each other. We don't have to negate the Buck and Eddie's experiences with others to support Buddie.

The part of me that wants instant gratification would love to see Eddie and Buck dancing at Madney's wedding and figuring out they are what they have been looking for all along. Cut to them in a room going at it.

But, the part of me that loves a great story, and doesn't mind waiting if the writing is great, is fine with a slow burn that gives us deep storylines and episodes that grip you from beginning to end. Let's say we have the rest of season 7, season 8, and maybe a season 9. There would be so much possible material.

Buck could go through a relationship with Tommy, a breakup, confusion, dating again, multiple amazing conversations with LGBTQ characters like Hen, Karen. This would also allow for giving other characters more depth, backstory, and more time on-screen. (This would be an amazing time to bring back Rockmond Dunbar as Michael and have him and Buck discuss figuring your sexuality out later in life!)

Eddie could spend that time working through his Catholic guilt and separating his actual needs and desires from what he was taught to need and desire. He could realize he makes excuses to stay with the women he dates then finds an excuse to escape when being with those women gives him anxiety. He could begin questioning if he is gay, bi, pan, or what. Then he could ask himself why he never really gets to know the women he dates. Who has he been close to? What was different? What gives him a feeling of safety and security and home? He needs to figure himself out.

So, yes, I do believe Buck/Tommy is acceptable and I support it, just not as endgame. I think, if written well, it could be integral to a great growth plot that takes us through Eddie and Buck diverging on their paths to self-discovery only to converge later on, a little more scarred but more in tune with themselves, to see their future in each other.

[tillwehavefaces]

I have literally never posted about Buddie before, but I want to add my two cents to the whole Buck/Tommy debate. I know there are mixed feelings and both sides have valid points, but to those who were expecting a Buddie kiss this soon - I don't get it?

Ever since I found out abc had picked up 911, I was and remain cautiously hopeful for Buddie endgame - in fact, the kiss makes me far more hopeful than I was a week ago. Because the truth is that if they'd gone straight for Buddie, it would have been bad storytelling. Offensively bad storytelling.

Hear me out. I agree with y'all that the storytelling that's happened up until now makes it clear that Buddie are in love with each other. I also happen to think that the storytelling that's happened up until now makes it clear that neither of these himbos have any clue that they're in love with each other, or that they even could fall in love with a man.

And it's not for lack of opportunity, if the writers had wanted to go that way, obviously! There's was Buck's reaction to Eddie being stuck in the well and Eddie making Buck Christopher's guardian in his will and both of them almost dying and Eddie having a literal breakdown over all the trauma he's repressed and they've both been to therapy and they've both broken up with women who were all wrong for them ... I could go on and on.

But not only did the writers not take any of these opportunities to make at least one of them realize their feelings for the other might not be platonic (certainly, no explicit indication on screen), but because fox was so afraid of losing viewers if they made both their supposedly straight male firefighters queer, they doubled down on Eddie and Buck seeing their relationship as platonic. Every time one of them went through some kind of life-changing experience and questioned deeply held beliefs about themselves yet never questioned their sexuality, it made it seem less and less likely that *anything* would make them realize they might be queer and in love with their best friend.

Honestly, I think if abc had gotten the show at a different point, they might have been able to go straight into Buddie. For example, a season earlier? Eddie's just gotten through a ton of trauma with the help of a therapist and is returning to the 118, and it would've been easy to write a storyline where he's realized his feelings for Buck and tries to do something about it. Or maybe right after Buck's near-death experience. But they both got through those traumas and started dating new women, as oblivious to the love right in front of them as ever. And that's how S6 ended.

So I don't think there's anything abc could have done to convince me that either one of them suddenly realizes how they feel without something happening. If that Buck/Tommy kiss had instead been a Buddie kiss, I would have loved it, but I wouldn't have really believed it. It wouldn't have felt genuine.

Excuse my nerdy science brain, but it's like inertia - Buck and Eddie have both been going in one direction for so long (the 'we're straight best friends!' direction) that it's going to take some kind of force to knock them off that path. It can't be near death experiences, cause they've both been there and it hasn't worked. It can't be finding new girlfriends or breaking up with said girlfriends. No, it's gotta be something really obvious.

That force is Tommy. A canon gay character who recognizes Buck as queer even when Buck doesn't recognize himself as queer. Who (unknowingly) forces Buck to confront that part of himself by kissing him, which will in turn force Eddie to confront his feelings and reaction to seeing his best friend and co-parent now dating a man. I can't say for sure that Buddie is coming, but I honestly think this (not Tommy specifically, but a queer man who is outside the whole Buddie situation) is the only way to tell this story in a way that makes it feel true to life, given the mess that fox created.

[thatmexisaurusrex]

actually it's buck who's the spy the whole thing is a long con

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The True Spy

Agent Evan "Buck" Buckley had been tasked with one thing and one thing only - finding out the secrets of the infamous, the mysterious, the aloof Mr. Thomas "Tommy" Kinard.

Buck had been recruited in Peru.

As a freelance spy, rarely had Buck stayed in one place for long, but the money was too good. And, once he began the job, the role had been too good.

He had - he had liked being a firefighter. He liked helping people. Sure, the job had gone a little sideways when the 118 had recruited him rather than Harbor Station. Maybe Buck had dragged his feet for five to seven years working as seemingly a real firefighter.

But.

He eventually got that in with Tommy Kinard. It just took a missing cruise ship, the captain that Buck may or may not see as more of a father than his own dad being on said cruise ship, a hijacked chopper, and a hurricane to get him his meeting with Tommy.

And.

Councilwoman Ortiz hadn't specified how Buck should get close to Tommy.

Maybe.

Dating the guy was much more honeypot than Buck had anticipated for the job. But hey, the guy was cute. He had a great ass. He was so confident. He was interesting. He had a cleft.

And, sure.

Buck hadn't known he liked guys until those soft, soft lips touched his and his body screamed yes at the mere kiss. The gentle, sincere, putting-himself-at-risk kiss Tommy had gifted him.

And.

Okay, it was a plus to learn that he was bi from this experience. Sue Buck, he liked knowing more about himself.

And as Buck stood there, in the house he had moved in with Tommy, with Tommy on one knee with a ring, Buck couldn't help but blurt out, "I'm a spy."

"Uh. What?"

"I'm a spy. I'm a freelance spy that got tasked to watch you. But - but I love you. Damn it, I actually love you. And I needed you to know that before I say yes," said Buck, and it was just spilling out of him like a waterfall of information, "I stopped reporting in when we started dating, anyway. I liked being a firefighter more than a spy. I - I like being with you more than being a spy."

Tommy.

Stood up.

Took Buck's hands.

"Evan. I have no clue what the fuck you just said. And I'm sure you're going to explain it with great detail in a second. But I just want to make sure. You said yes?"

Buck.

Nodded profusely.

"Yes, yes. Of course yes, Tommy."

Tommy leaned in to give Buck a kiss. The same soft, beautiful kiss that Tommy had given Buck the first time they kissed over a year ago.

"Great," said Tommy as he slipped the engagement ring onto Buck's finger, "Now, what's this about being a freelance spy?"