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BLACK SAILS || XX.
I'm useless to 'em up top. Gotta do my part somehow.
#sadly muldoon had to go because silver was starting to go down the maybe i can be a normal bisexual road#and the narrative was like NOPE.#blacksailsedit#bsedit#black sails#john silver#luke arnold#muldoon#richard wright-firth#beegifs#muldoonsilver
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the way people care more about jason fighting tim than like any other rogue fighting tim during his robin run is...!
"they're brothers! jason is so horrible to attack his little brother."
aside from the obvious twinkification of tim, stop pushing the family narrative on two people who did not see each other as siblings at that moment.
#and also stop seeing tim as a 5 year old#jason fought him to prove a point#sometimes i wish he really did some serious damage to tim just so you guys would have something reasonable to complain about#gosh a 16-17yr old crime fighter who fights people like bane for a living definitely has trauma from a guy two years older than him#fighting him#yes jason todd the kid who was murdered for being robin would definitely go out and kill the next kid who is robin#because yessss his whole point is that he's jealous of the next robin and therefore needs to harm him worse than the joker harmed jason#like please i'm so tired of this discourse#why the fuck would jason- the child murder victim who died as robin and bc of batman taking on a child soldier- want to kill the next robin#you'd think the narrative that jason tried to kill tim would only be in like some fics#but nope! it's in every goddamn batfam fic i've ever read to this day#not even exaggerating#anti tim drake#anti batfam#jason todd#red hood#batman#dc
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I had a thought I’d like to share with the class. So we know that Kuya is super bored all the time but what if he sets up traps for Quincy. Bullying Quincy is his step above bullying normal forest creatures. Kuya sets up puzzles for his ex husband to solve and just sits in a tree watching him get out of his traps. Quincy takes into account the possibility of getting caught in a trap whenever he goes out hunting and includes it in his schedule. (I love them, they’re so husband.)
Quincy has also probably learned that the best method for dealing with Kuya is to run away because it deprives him of any enjoyment. Kuya is probably so pissed off when he does this tho like: “>:0 How dare you not fall into the trap I spent hours constructing for my own amusement.” So Quincy probably knows he has to solve at least one of Kuya’s traps per week if not he risks Kuya going insane. It’s his enrichment.
Now onto my thought: What if in one of his latest traps he turns Quincy into an animal, just for the funsies. Latest trap turns Quincy into one of those giant tortoises if he doesn’t solve it quickly enough. Then Kuya kidnaps him and keeps him in his garden. Quincy is completely fine with this because Kuya will probably just turn him back when he gets bored.
Meanwhile Topper is like, “Oh shit, I gotta go tell Eiden” so he makes his way to Aster’s mansion to tell him. Except Eiden is having a hard time understanding Topper so he gets Yakumo. Yakumo also thinks he’s misunderstanding what Topper is saying. Then they think about it for two seconds and are like, “Yeah that does sound like something Kuya would do.” So they get their asses over to the Wood Territory, accompanied by Rei because he’s curious about how Kuya managed to turn Quincy into an animal.
Meanwhile Quincy is living his best life eating the vegetation in Kuya’s garden and not having responsibilities. He’s killing two birds with one stone so he’s not complaining. Eiden gets there and the conversation goes something like this.
Eiden: Why would you turn him into a giant turtle, you need to turn him back.
Kuya: First of all he’s a tortoise. Second, he likes it.
Rei: What kind of kink is this?
Quincy: *munching on a piece of lettuce*
Eventually they convinced Kuya to turn him back but you know damn well he’s gonna do something similar next week.
Thank you for sharing with the class...!! 🤓🔍🤏🧐 why..... you certainly brought up many ideas that i never considered. a very enligtheninggn story. . . a narrative of silly proportions.. makes me want to eat some lettuce
#feesh answer#would kuya ever do something that quincy would actually LIKE?#as in. the second quincy shows enjoyment of a consequence of kuya's trap#will kuya go “tch” and revert everything. just to be a pain. just to rob quincy of that fleeting moment of joy#i know the ongoing narrative is that quincy is a bear#but a giant ancient tortoise? yeah. yeah i can see that too. hilarious AND extremely relatable sentiment#*methodically consumes an entire head of romaine. leaf by crunchy vertical leaf*#i lost it when rei asked what kind of kink this is AHAHAHAH#i am imagining a stressed topper explaining the situation to yakumo#translating word by word... it certainly doesn't make sense at first...#maybe Father overhears the ruckus and there's a brief convo between the three of em#and Father confirms that yes that seems to be the situation. yes my son wants to see.#eiden next to the animal discussion triangle like 🧍♂️#i wonder what kuya would keep in his garden. would he grow actual food there?? does he garden like quincy does??#what sort of plants surround kuya's cabin. i can only think of those hallucinogenic foxtails#tortoise quincy getting spacey on foxtails......#aaaahh. at last. a break from the Something. because it is ALWAYS Something#a predator tries to eat quincy and he's just like. nope. not dealing with this#withdraws into his shell and goes to sleep#topper sunbathing atop a napping tortuquin......
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more salty commentary about.... salty fandom commentary, but for a fandom i'm not really involved with
ftr this is about the gay-ass (affectionate) vampire show
squinting at some of super vitriolic anti-armand commentary that tumblr's algorithm keeps throwing at me like 'this? you want this one bestie? no? what about this one instead?' when in fact i want none of these takes, actually. "i don't believe a word that comes out of that lying liar's mouth!!" "of course he could have stopped claudia and madeleine's murders, he's the most powerful vampire in the world!!" (uh, i'll come back to that one later. maybe. if i feel like it) "he was onboard the 'let's murder claudia!' train from the very beginning!!!" etc. if you're even peripherally keeping your finger on the pulse of this fandom's discourse, you've probably seen some of this, too.
and... okay. bearing in mind two things:
it's been about 20+ years since i read the original novels, and
the show's relationship to the original novels, as well as the 1994 movie, is both conversational and subversive,
two seasons into this delicious mess, how are we still collectively failing to recognize that the central conceit of amc's retelling is that, intentional or not, all recollection of louis' past is both catharsis (for louis) and performance (for ???)? that all of louis' recollection of his own actions, as well as the actions of the other vampires in his orbit, is filtered through the lens of his own feelings about those vampires in that moment? like this isn't a subtle storytelling device, this is something the show is repeatedly bashing us over the head with again and again and again: louis' reliability as a narrator of his own experiences can't be trusted even when he isn't so consumed with rage that he tries to drain twenty year old daniel molloy dry for the unforgivable crime of /checks my notes, mouthing off at him like a dumbass, or goes into vulgar detail describing to lestat precisely how he is going to kill him, cut his head off, and then feed his decapitated head to lions at the zoo. which, it bears mentioning, is not the version of events that we were presented with during s1, but it is the version of events that louis himself comes to reluctantly believe is the more accurate recollection of the past.
does that make lestat into The Real Victim™️ who did nothing wrong to louis or claudia, ever? please tell me you're not actually asking me this question. be serious.
the point is that louis is right in the thick of feeling his intensely passionate vampire feelings about armand in real time, in the present day, while looking backwards through time at the 77 years they have spent together, and he is questioning everything. justifiably so, for the record! why wouldn't he question the actions and motivations of the supposed love of his life after discovering that such an important memory from his and daniel molloy's shared past was erased from his mind? but seriously, if you have reached this point in the story and your takeaway from the last episode boils down to "THIS TIME louis' recollection of the past is definitely 100% accurate! the rose-tinted glasses are OFF and we can see the TRUTH about you now armand!!!" then i just. i don't know what to say to you. lmfao.
anyway rather than getting into the weeds with anyone actually in the fandom about which of these diva vampire daddies is right, actually, find me hanging out with claudia and madeleine's ashes giving all of them the proverbial finger. because honestly, fuck all these vampires (affectionate).
#ray.txt#gay-ass vampire show#not dropping this one in the tags either. nope.#tl;dr louis is an unreliable narrator about EVERYONE. including armand!! including the bad things!!!#coming back this to edit and add:#i find it very interesting and telling that armand has been. rather quiet. during the last couple of episodes#i'm going to revisit and rewatch them to take some notes but i don't think this is accidental#from a narrative or framing perspective#this isn't to say he's been totally silent just to be clear. just in case someone decides to interpret that too literally#but i have been thinking about and mulling over something armand said in s1#when he was still pretending to be rashid#to paraphrase i think he said something like#'you're chronicling a suicide mr. molloy'#i think there are layers of meaning and motivation at work behind that statement
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hi !! so there is this blog going around that is sending my friends drama that's been following me for over a year now. if you receive anyone following you from a blank blog with stuff about me , please let me know as i might have to find a way to squash this personally. i'm really disgusted my friends are being harassed now with this stuff bc someone is upset about me AND HONESTLY , i would have just ignored it again bc it's not my first rodeo w/ the blogs being made and tagging me in posts to make me see it. i've been really traumatized over these folks and their harassment and honestly nervous about their many vagues. they say i check their blogs , yea .. i do , they actively talk about me fdkfdjk if someone spoke about you on the daily then you'd be checking as well. let's not pretend we are all innocent do gooders , they check my blog regularly too.
since my friend received a follow from this blank blog i just need to reiterate one important detail these people are trying to say is something i do .. i never sent an ounce of anon hate in my life. me checking their blogs because i'm paranoid doesn't suddenly mean that i send hate anons and they need to stop saying that i do. i'm so sorry to anyone who is seeing ONCE AGAIN the messy parts of broken friendships because these people cannot handle people talking and interacting with me.
#⊱✿⊰ ┊ ˢʰᵉ ʳᵉᵃˡˡʸ ⁱˢ ᵃ ᶠᵘⁿⁿʸ ᵍⁱʳˡ ( ooc )#[ really gross. i'm just tired ?? like#ME LOOKING AT YOUR BLOG DOESNT MEAN#I SENT YOU HATE .#stop bringing me into ur false narratives .#not gonna let this get me down nope nope nopeee#tw: negative#tw callout
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they honestly couldve done so much with junpei beheaded/dismembered and im disappointed that it ended up just being mira. so much of his character and his relationship with akane is characterized by his lack of bodily autonomy, and him being openly beheaded during the nonary games would be the ultimate example of this. its perhaps the most brutal death in the game, and it never really gets explained or developed beyond the one puzzle that we get with it. junpei has been shown repeatedly to be subject to akane's plans or follow her blindly and i just think that would have been a really interesting angle to approach his beheading from. junpei has willingly signed up for nonary games in two different timelines just because he knew he would see her. he was infected with a deadly virus trying to find her. he grew desensitized to death as he took underground jobs to try and find her. his safety always comes second when shes in the picture, and his beheading wouldve been a prime opportunity to 1. exploit his willingness to let himself die/be injured for her and 2. make akane confront the fact that her confidence that junpei will always follow after her is not necessarily a positive thing.
#zero escape#additionally wasnt mira supposed to be asleep?? like i know she didnt get the forget juice but didnt she still get knocked out?#but also!! none of her other kills were like that! none of them were dismembered and she didnt touch junpeis chest#so even that reasoning doesnt make sense#kinda feels like a copout to keep the shock of junpei being disrespected in such a way - to have his very body turned into a puzzle#a puzzle that akane is forced to solve!!! without knowing that what shes looking for is his head - him!#theres so much potential there and they just didnt do anything#im not even saying that akane should have somehow been responsible for that death - only that not having her really grapple with it is such#a missed opportunity#i still fucking LOVE the imagery of it though. i really think its the epitome of the representations of his lack of autonomy#he loses all of vlr. quark. 45 years of his life. because akane decides this is best for him. he dies repeatedly trying to find her.#because she believes that she knows what will keep him safe#and turning junpeis body into a puzzle posthumously is a fantastic example of his lack of control over his body#its like hes literally become a doll. hes jumpydoll - not junpei. hes subject to these games even after he has died.#he gets no peace. no respect in his death. not when hes in these games. not when hes in the shadow of akanes whims and games.#i still love the imagery. i think it was one of my favorite parts of ztd and is honestly now a core tenet of my Junpei Understanding#but i was disappointed in the lack of narrative weight that specific death had. for him to be one of the first dead? for it to be in such a#brutal manner? like come ON. the character analysis for junpei and akane and their relationship is RIGHT THERE. all you had to do was put i#in the game#but nope.#they just handwave it as something mira did.#and dont bring up the details ever again because. plot point solved?#anyway. ive been thinking about junpei imagery and bodily autonomy a lot. obviously.#zero escape spoilers#mak no peeking#marydontlookatthis
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the more i read of this book the more is cements in my mind that this was never meant to be a snow apologist book people just don’t have any reading comprehension anymore
#like i’ve read apologist prequels and stories before this is NOT one of them#which is also kinda fascinating#idk protagonist does not mean likeable or the hero and i think by suzanne collins making snow the protagonist in this people are conflating#the two like nope he’s still a terrible person who’s framed to have nuance in the hunger games books#but really lacks depth on all levels and is further exposed in this (like lacks depth as a person not a character)#and like i remember when this book came out and people were so mad that it was an apologist narrative but it’s really not#and while i haven’t watched the movie so much of his terrible ness is internal monologue so that translation to screen can get lost especia#if it’s a hot actor but like it’s literally a story on why he’s like that tm and why the games are like that tm#it’s explanational not justificational and it’s so easy to see 😭😭#eris: text#anyway#eris: reading
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graveyard shift :/
#girl. what was that#novellas just aren't for me. i think it takes a lot of skill to be able to craft a compelling narrative in such short space#it's not a complete story. it's just not enough. and i need something i can really sink my teeth into#and unfortunately this one just wasn't it#at the very least i expected it to be like. an atmospheric read. eerie creepy etc. nope#however i am still eagerly awaiting the author's next long-form work whatever that might be
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rewatching nope (2022) today bc it's my day off and god everything about this movie is sooooooooooo. it's so good. truly can't remember the last time I was in a theater kicking my feet giggling bc a film was so well put together like truly every other minute I was staring at the screen in awe like holy shit they did that!! how did they do that that is so cool!! the sound design, the set design, the characters, the THEMES and the NARRATIVE, the blocking in certain scenes. THAT FUCKING ALIEN girl I'm sorry I'll never be normal about this movie
#the way the plot sorta spirals in on itself. u have this thing which relates to this thing which made this happen#and it all just keeps spiraling inward bc even tho they're all different scenarios they are all actually exactly the same#the cinematography choice....... blank hallways and first person pov and the SOUNDSCAPING#the dead silence with just one ambient noise in the background to make it feel off enough that you're like uhh what's happening I'm scared#the HERO of this movie and the way he only won bc he understood animals and knew how to treat them fairly#and yet he and his family still contribute to the spiraling narrative of in the way they try to capture jean jacket on film#2023 best picture winner TO ME#text post#nope 2022#horror tag
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tagged by @toastsnaffler !! 🫶🫶
rules: list your five all time favorite films and have people vote on which one matches your vibe
no pressure tags: @jademaomi @4phr0d17e @bbboar @lady-tabris @lockedinthelabyrinth and anyone who wants 2 do this! :-) (please tag me i wanna see yall polls hehehhe)
#in my last yr of high school i watched like 3948384 random movies in an absolute fugue state (brain was in acid jail)#many of which were old ish hk movies#n then i got sick of watching Narratives so . its an eclectic mix based on my taste when i was like. 19#except for nope which i watched in 2022 and still bangs#also eeaao obviously!!!! movie of All Time. to Me#i rarely watch movies nowadays my brain is just not up to it anymore#although i just saw ka whawhai tonu / struggle without end and it is Brilliant n made me cry so hard. highly recommend this one#text#polls
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i really do hate jjk
#i just can't quit this fucking fandom#but i hate this series now#like the core narrative issues drive me insane#everyone deserved better#especially yuuji deserved better#the culling games is such a pointless??? arc???#that stalls progression of both the narrative and yuuji's character development#i know everyone's loving the new chapter but honestly i dont think its earned#i think gege skipped the best time he had to actually allow sukuna and yuuji time to breathe as characters#but its more than that#nothing about the culling games narratively leads into this finale#its a complete waste of space#everything about this feels so unearned becuase gege also didn't give anyone except like...nanami's death time to breathe#and don't get me started on nobara#gojo's death i would've been fine with if he hadn't played it as shock value#that's not even the thing that made me nope out#it was choso's death#and the immediate whiplash to todo's entrance#which was so fucking infuriating#like at least when nobara died we got time to sit with that and for yuuji to have feelings before todo came in#but here its like oh no are you sad well NOT ANYMORE look its TODO#to the complete BULLSHIT that was yutajo#i love tragedy but tragedy needs to say something#its gotta be worth it#this just feels like pointless nihilistic bullshit#and that's what im not here for#it makes me mad when gege writes good character interactions now because its like#we could've had this the whole time#you're so good at this#but you just fucking refuse to
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im thinkign about him
#'andrew never heals' if i could have taken nora's writing apparatus off her and set it on FIRE i would have#yeah let me just write this tormented character that has been traumatised by every single person in his life#including but not limited to people who were DIRECTLY in official positions designed to help him#and it's left him violent and cruel and possessive and i actively call him a monster and every single character views him badly#either consistently or at least for a little while and regularly dismisses him and his behaviour#and he never heals. he never learns to say i love you. is that not a good story haha?? am i crazy for that? i feel crazyyyy#like the courts there to pursue justice? forced him on mania-inducing drugs that completely altered his personality#the foster system? dont get me started#his family? nice try!#his teammates? getting warmer but we're still not there!#his very readers that supposedly have the benefit of omniscient narrative perspective? nope!#like WHAT FUCKING GIVES#what if i started killing. idc if there are hundresd THOUSANDS of you andrew-antis give me a knife and a vodka shot i will WIN#andrew minyard#aftg
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Sometimes playing uchikoshi games is just like “oh my god this is such bullshit (fondly)”
#malky plays games#ai: the somnium files#finished the second game like yesterday#sometimes the main twists I just can’t help but respect how bullshit they are#like. what the fuck. holy shit.#though it’s interesting because honestly close to the reveal#I *was* noticing odd things and then I started wondering if it would tie into#the mandala effect since characters were mentioning that#but nope! it was a different thing that was completely insane#honestly it’s interesting to see the building blocks that went into setting it up#from a narrative building perspective. maybe I’ll make a different post under a readmore to not spoil people
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ALERT FEH GOES SOMEWHERE NO FODLAN GAME EVER WENT
From the video on the Feh channel on how to use the new heroes, they explain a bit of background about the units :
@renisfan watched the jp subtitles and of course the "heartless" part isn't in the jp subtitles because this is Fodlan content !
WHAT
What the fuck ???
SOTHIS GIVES A FUCK ABOUT HER DEAD CHILDREN AND WANTS TO TERMINATE THE ONES WHO KILLED THEM ??????
Note who is fielded with her (Flayn didn't get the memo grandma needs to be alone to gain more stats !)
PROTECT THOSE ALLIES LIKE HER KIDS AND GRANDKID ????
Of course this Sothis is a fallen hero, she gives fucks about her kin ! /s
Funny how this alt is supposed to be from the Nopes part where Sothis hijacks Billy's body to get revenge for Jerry ; Nopes Sothis never mentions her dead kids (save for AG) and never expresses a desire to avenge them, she wishes to terminate Agarthans (Barney) for what they did to Jerry, but not for slaughtering her own children.
In Feh proper (her quotes + forging bonds) Sothis is pissed and fights against perceived threats to both her and Billy, but we don't know why she is pissed. It could be from the same Nopes's scene when she wants to avenge Jerry, bcs Billy's accessories are Jerry related.
But in this video of Feh ??? They explain why Sothis is pissed, it's not because Jerry died, but because Nabateans, her very own children, were genocided ?
The one reason/motivation both Fe16, Nopes and even Feh work their hardest to ignore (it's just an infodump with no consequences in VW !), now this video gives it some light and thoughts ????
Like, rip to Jerry, but for the people who made this video, the only reason why Sothis could be totally pissed and willing to off the first peon who looks at her wrong is her ire at the loss of her children ?
They completely retconned the non-character she was in the Fodlan games, to make her react in a more logical way, Rhea BaD or not BaD, the second Sothis has her memories she destroys the Agarthans and their allies, to avenge the children, her children, who were massacred.
By making this video, IS first shows that Sothis genuinely cared about her children and maybe Rhea wasn't completely delusional when she called her a loving mother, second, and more importantly, they just shat on 3/7th of the combined games. Tru Piss!Sothis wouldn't marry Billy after siding with Thales to finish the massacre of Zanado, and Supreme Leader would have also been terminated, even if Sothis had to take over Billy at that point. Ditto for Clout in Golden Shower, if Sothis!Billy is from around, he dies the second the plot arrow crits Rhea. Jury's out on Supreme Bullshit, but I doubt Sothis would be A OK to work for Supreme Leader whose aim is, at times, to make Garreg Mach Rhea's tomb.
And third, only for the lols, where plot reasons prevented them to meet and interact in the Fodlan games and when Sothis being a piece of crap prevented an interaction in the halloween event, Retcon!Sothis finally meets her daughter in this video ! It's a nice nod to last year, F!Rhea believing and wishing she would meet her mother again in Askr, and the video delivers - Sothis, through Billy, protects her !
Of course this content only pops up in a video bcs even Feh in its main game cannot drop such a heavy dump on Fodlan's writing and plotholes, but I wonder what prompted IS to release this video, with this explanation as to why Sothis is angry.
#Fe16#Sothis stuff#This video makes me reconsider so many things lol#Of course it's not canon#This alt is from Nopes and this scene doesn't even appear in Feh proper !#lizard family time?#Sothis giving a fuck about her kids dead and living and Rhea reuniting with her mom#Like what is it some sort of beta from Nopes ? A draft that was used as toilet paper ?#I'm pretty sure this video was made by IS or the IS team working on Feh#We all know this would never have seen the day if it was KT#Or a content exclusively made by Pat'n'pals#The script was even lolcalised with the heartless comment lol#But this is imo a huge middle finger at nopes#And whoever who worked on the Fe16 team who let that plothole happen#Sure sure it's only on a video few people watch bcs the units need to sell#Thus must sort of fit with their home game's narrative#Even if said narrative sucks#This makes me think the Dimitri Ike comparison also happened in a video ?#Never in the main game bcs uwu#But it's not the first time they do this ?#Fe heroes#GG to them
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okay that is all i can muster for tonight. my insanity will have to wait.
#AALV TSATS liveblogging#please just mentally picture me chewing on this book#luckily i dont follow too many RR blogs so i am relatively safe from spoilers *[STARES POINTEDLY AT ALL OF YOU]*#nobody send me spoilers i swear#ftr i am still taking literally everything in this book as Optional Canon#im enjoying the writing so far but. bro. you cant drop a major continuity error like that. its just blatantly incorrect.#and then say it's Totally Canon And Actually A Major Thing For These Characters IT DID NOT HAPPEN!!#IT PHYSICALLY COULD NOT HAVE!!#do not misquote the ancient texts to me witch. i was there when they were written#but Writing Is Decent. thankfully Nico's narrative voice is not as jarring as i was expecting#tbh he's actually written here kind like how i write him which is. delightful vindication.#also if we could STOP RETCONNING THE UNDERWORLD that'd be GREAT#will we ever get one trip to the underworld where it is consistent with literally any other trip down there? nope.#none of the details line up. none of the descriptions. ever. any of the times really. in any part.#youd think theyd make anything with Nico and the Underworld and Hades and their powers consistent for this book#based on the book tour is sounded like Mark sure tried#but like. yknow. Nico has a room in the underworld! in BoO his dad literally says ''Yeah you always have a place down here''#and theyre on good terms! also in BoO Nico uses dream powers! it's heavily implied he can inflict nightmares on people#we've known that since TLO actually#anyways. hrmhrhrmhrm grumble grumble#writing good. details i am biting. will keep posted#if yall do want my more unhinged thoughts i am also posting updates as i read in the discord#the ones im posting here are curated for your enjoyment
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As a person who other people just seem to talk to, so that I always am getting feed the tea on drama from all sides of the family and friends and coworker social groups (it's a blessing and curse sometimes... I could burn so much to the ground but I never do because I am a fundamentally peaceloving person but oh the powertrip of knowing I could) can I just say oh my god it's not personal, it's not personal it's not personal 95% of the time the Behavior is Not About You. Like humans are kinda sorta really fucking lazy and also forgetful and that fuels most drama, and I get that someone not making the effort on x thing when you wish that they would is aggravating and hurtful (and sometimes they really ought to be making the effort + they're not) but people take things as Personal Slights when it's like bestie they weren't thinking. They just weren't thinking of you. Start there. Just have them in your mind as a person who is not close to you, not someone who is actively trying to hurt you.
#this post is inspired by my cousin timidly suggesting to me that since my father married my mother (25 years ago!!) he's disowned#his extended family#like nope he just doesn't care about family reunions#I can understand how you might be hurt by this and wish he did care#but be hurt about his ambivalence don't construct a narrative of how he has Disowned His Own Family after Marriage#like how bout everyone calms the fuck down and stops assuming the worst about eachother#how about that
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