#and the misha part .... dont even get me started

[gold-rhine]

wow i think you're the first one i've seen being critical and honest about 2.2 story quest bc ive seen people just... praise it for being so "deep" and "meaningful"

im super annoyed at the part where we fight together w/ firefly for some contest??? where argenti appears at the end. i dont even remember the name of the place bcs i was like- what was the reason for this????????????? its so out of nowhere and got me so annoyed cuz i want to advance to the story already

like sure there are twists that got me shocked like with misha being the watchmaker bcs i wasnt expecting that at all and the angel siblings too

also what's the purpose of flower box thingy handed out by sparkle from the beginning????? i hope it becomes relevant in the next story quest??? idk

oh my god it was so random asdfghjkl it's like if in star wars at the very end they were like hmm how do we infiltrate the death star?? oh i know, we go to the reality show contest held by the Emperor and then Vader is here at the end giving dramatic speech and telling Luke he's his father

like i get it that they want to include reality shows\contests parody for their america parody, but like. right at the ending??? absolutely murdering the pacing??? we spend like 40 minutes at this filler??? and then speedrun TWO cheesy endings in a row??? like why couldn't it been in prev patch. we couldn't cut an hour out of like 5 hours of aventurine content???

tbh misha twist didn't do much for me bc like, they didn't really give me reason to care about "watchmaker legacy"??? like it was a mystery with kind of no clear stakes from the start. like ok he's watchmaker, all we did is loot a harmony hat of his corpse????

with preservation MC they got preservation powers by PROTECTING belobog. like, it tracks why act of sacrifice to protect a planet would resonate with god of protection. but here??? what did we do to resonate with harmony??? we legit just picked up a hat???

i don't know, misha being watchmaker is like. ok, what does it change? what does it mean? we never really knew him. it doesn't say anything interesting, so? plot twists are only interesting to me when they recontextualize things.

sam being firefly is at least interesting, bc it gives her personality and we learn that transition couldn't save her and we had like, some relationship with her. but like. if anyone else was revealed to be watchmaker instead of misha, what would have changed?

edit: like, take fontaine plot twist that furina is a mortal and focalors is in oracle machine. this twist recontextualizes our existing understanding of furina, it explains her behavior, it makes us reevaluate our understanding of her. without this twist, entire ending falls apart, its integral for the plot.

with watchmaker, say gallagher was revealed to be watchmaker instead. what changes meaningfully? say we pick up harmony hat from the sidewalk and not from the corpse, what changes in the plot?

[eriksyoudumby]

i was gonna talk about adm as a whole but my brain went KEROSENE BRRRRRRRRRRRRR so here we are

*assumptions about stuff: Misha is not human, Andrei died somehow, Misha can/has been reviving him

Kerosene is REALLY interesting, breaking it down from the start:

SO. We can tell right away the one asking “if i’m ready” is Andrei, expecting to die/be revived again after coming to expect it. “Duet in Death” seems to be how Misha sees the situation, that being two of them coming together from the cycles they experience endlessly (this is very important when seen in contrast with Red Hour). “And with a touch of life” the revival itself, “I’m filled with envy”... this part i’m not too sure about but considering Misha actively wants to die (see engima lyrics for urself) it could be that again. The last part “It feels to me, this time it’s not as easy” is MIND BLOWING bc it implies that the revivals are taking a toll on his health or just becoming harder to do over and over again.

The chorus leans into this,

With “I’m done with saving” referring to the revival, and yet Andrei keeps getting into trouble and needing to be revived again (the asking for more, the “more” is MORE LIVES)... as for the rest, and how it parallels with Red Hour, I’m not sure but it again confirmed that a deal to save Andrei took place and its something Andrei intends to exploit (at least based on Red Hour, I assume that is his intention). 

Although we see some contradictions here, as the last line, “a brand new life is all I need for more” implies that Misha is also doing the revivals for his own gain. What is this? Something that only Andrei can give him, and it’s safe to say Misha isn’t entirely sure what that thing is other than it’s intense like blood, it's addictive, dangerous, and sweet. (it’s love, man doesn't know he’s simping)

Then the line “I don’t need saving” makes me think back to Enigma where Misha sang “I’m not afraid of the way that i’m burning up”, something he did to take the place of Andrei who was originally the one who was burning. “A pity dawn won’t rise over your broken corpse” gives a dramatic setting for Andrei's death, but I think something else happened here. Mainly, I believe that after a certain amount of repeated time, Misha decided to swap his soul and Andrei’s, taking his place in death. This is probably crazy and idk if i’m even fully believing it, but I do think Misha dies at the end of Kerosene to get back at Andrei for being the source of an unrequited love.

Rather than go on fighting against Andrei about why he can’t just be revived a billion times, he instead fucking DIES thinking that if Andrei can’t appreciate him alive, that at least the survivors guilt Andrei gets from watching someone else die in his body will stay in his heart forever. 

(also a little note about what happened in Red Hour, “Fall for me my catastrophe” feels very ironic considering MISHA ALREADY HAS)

And another thing I wanna mention about falling is that it first appears in enigma:

Here it’s described as painful and related to the flames engulfing the corpse. Which makes me think that saying “fall for me” could have a second meaning of TAKE THE FALL FOR ME instead of the romantic falling in love idea. (spoilers for whenever i make my next huge theory post: i dont think Andrei had the take away from Misha's death that was intended)

[andr0nap-wf]

Hey, so to have a second good thing to wake up to (yes, i am a freak that reads tags) have a question:

How do you think Misha and Arthur would meet? And how would Misha respond to literally puppeteering Arthur during WITW?

HOW ARE YOU SO FAST i havent even had my morning coffee when you sent this sjhdbfjshd

long answer ahead:

im guessing you mean them meeting face to face. how i imagine it happening starts with misha carrying arthur back to base after he passes out from severely overstraining himself during a fight. usually they would phase in and drag arthur to a safe spot and watch over him until he woke up.. but this is a dangerous area and that cough sounded particularly bad, so they decide to drop the act and get him to safety

up until that moment theyve been backseating his missions and talking to him the whole time.. due their chronic inability to shut up and keep a low profile. any questions about their identity are either ignored or answered with a shitty lie ("dont worry arthur im just your subconsciousness :)" "you dont sound like me" "dont worry about it :)")

after arthur wakes up, he goes to find out how tf he got here since he was running solo and no one was supposed to be in the area, people tell him he got brought back by a stranger thats currently talking to dr entrati. no one knows who they are or where they came from but seem to be important to the doctor

when the two finally meet he instantly recognizes the voice thats been talking to him in his head nonstop but cant straight up ask without sounding insane to everyone else. arthur settles on asking if they met before and misha says that maybe they have, who knows? ;)

misha sticks around in the flesh after that and they team up :) the voice in arthurs head has gone suspiciously silent for the most part but he can still feel some echo of foreign emotions bouncing around his skull

as for the puppeteering part: misha has mixed feelings about the whole warframe thing and already feels very iffy controlling umbra. they tried to keep their control over arthur to the absolute minimum before their official meeting and forgoes it completely when they work together (up until the inevitable reveal i guess)

[jeffreyss]

i dreamed that jensen came to my uni for some reason and he looked SO GOOD and at some point misha was there too and my friends were talking to him ABOUT ME bcs they know how obsessed i am with him and id be too shy to go up to him and he LOOKED AT ME AND SMILED WITH HIS CUTE FUCKING SMILE (like what the actual fuck at his point i was like im gonna die for sure today) and i was like NO my brain cannot handle this so i guess my brain really couldnt handle it bcs then he was gone and it was just jensen but me and 3 other girls were sitting at one table with him literally just talking to him like normal people (he was literally telling us stories I ALREADY KNOW ABOUT LIKE REAL LIFE STORIES, thats why the dream seemed so fucking real) and i was shaking, dying inside and he was like “ray are u okay u need to chill im not that.... all that” AND I WAS LIKE UM YES U ARE THE FUCK HAVE YOU SEEN HOW U LOOK AND DHADJAS anyway i didnt say that i was just like yepp. yeah im cool wdym jensen.

long story short i had a full ass conversation with jensen ackles sitting 2 feet away from him and could pratically grab and kiss him if i wanted to when i thought its real and i was like how is this happening to me but then i was brought back to the harsh reality of my bed and i was like - oh. yeah.. my life sucks

[ozymandiasdirge]

Can you elaborate on the closeted jimmy narrative, I trust your huge brain?

i am going to disclaim that this is 100% fully admit this is my making shit up because i think it would have been interesting, but also this episode was written by jeremy carver and i know better so anyways.

okay so i think in the episode the rapture that it always shocks me how quickly jimmy is just....willing to let an angel run off with his body when he has a wife and child and i know part of that is because this show has terrible pacing from a doylist perspective. like jimmy is supposed to be happy with his life and that’s why he wants to get back to him so badly after cas leaves but? mr. novak if you were so happy why did you leave within a day of this happening.

Like obviously he loves claire and he seems like a really good dad but. man i dont know if it’s just because misha straight up REFUSED to have romantic chemistry with women in the twelve years he was on this show but...his marriage with amelia is not it. at no point do i think they like each other or feel love from them at all. even his scene where he lets cas possess him again. the whole focus is on him and claire he doesnt even look at amelia. almost all the emotional scenes in the episode and even later are about him and claire not him and his wife.

there’s a flashback in the rapture that always strikes me. the famous blueberry shot in the coffee jimmy is wildin’ sticking his hand in the water which is iconic. but the thing that hits me is after. amelia sees him do this, sees this obviously supernatural thing happen and immediately implies to jimmy that he needs to be institutionalized. like girl just staight up saw a miracle happen but it is not normal. which in the illinois suburbs with youth group and book club. can you imagine how it would look on amelia if her husband is a freak. oh no honey not her straight ass. THAT IS NOT A HAPPY MARRIAGE. and then when he’s points out that she just saw what happened she says he’s not going to be allowed to see claire if he doesn’t get medicated which. that is so evangelical wife catching her husband looking at men and threatening to take away the children. yes im reading too much into it no i dont care.

so i think jimmy’s disillusionment with cas is deeper maybe if. like his whole life something felt fundamentally different and then here is miserable in pontaic illinois with a daughter that he loves but a life he’s miserable with. if one day an angel comes along and tells him that of course he’s worthy of god, all you have to do is come with me, that validation would make sense why he’s willing to leave. but being a servant of god, spn’s god specifically, is terrible and brutal and unforgiving. not a benediction or a balm so that and the fact that cas is putting his body through hell because he has bad taste in men is why jimmy is like, pissed.

like that scene at the dinner table where claire asks him to say grace that inspired this post??? and his respone??? like jeremy what am i supposed to think

and when cas does possess him it’s....so gentle compared to what we normally see. the way it’s shot and framed. and we know that cas, as someone who’s always felt broken, like feels an affinity for other broken people that’s canon. cas has a kindness in response to other’s suffering back to the final plague of egypt. and also cas knows what human homophobia is and how damaging it is enough to immediately start killing homophobes when he becomes god. like i know it’s because he’s gay and im sure a lot of it comes from dean’s specific issues but i think he observed it up close at some point and i imagine having to share a body with someone with issues about it probably did that.

[fucktheroyals]

You know after reading and reading and reading peoples theories and the meta from before the spn finale aired and the meta writers reactions to the finale I think I have a theory of my own. We don't have any answers tho, so this is pure speculation. If you wanna add something to support or discredit any of this that's cool but there's too many things floating around. Know I dont have proof for this conclusion at all. A lot of what I say is just guesses based on previous facts.

This all came together in my head when I realized how much this finale REEKS of the original producers and who the show was originally for. It REEKS of Robert Singer. Like if the execs started saying they didn't want it, Robert Singer was the one pushing that the story was about the brothers. That kinda thing.

Then, I was thinking of the problems in this episode and it struck me these are all of Supernatural biggest issues and to be honest all of it feels completely deliberate.

Take the sexism for example, Supernatural in it's later seasons largely out grew this, we have Jody, Rowena, Donna, Charlie, Mary, Claire (and even a wayward sisters pilot with MORE women/girls) all making regular appearances. They're mainly good characters and mostly aren't there to hurt our boys. Rowena, of course, is the one outlier being very about herself but it's clear she still cares for them, I mean its part of her development. But they're all real, with character flaws just like everyone else. (And we have Death too and she was POC 😭 THANK GOD)

Now look at the earlier half of Spn, we have Ellen and Jo, who's appearances were far in between. There's Bela in season 3, recurring for quite a bit (5 eps), but she is a character that is only there for herself, definitely not found family (unlike Ellen & Jo), and she's got more episodes in season 3 than Ellen and Jo in season 2 who aren't seen again til season 5. The "fans" send in hate mail after hate mail to try to get these characters off, and eventually they are. Then there's Ruby who's character stayed for a whole two seasons and was a largely recurring character. Why does she get to say so long? She's a plot device. She's supposed to be there to betray Sam. She has to stay (plus Jared obviously likes her). But she's not just a character the writers like writing about. Same with Lilith. Obviously not as recurring but still a plot device. Did they get hate mail tho? You can bet on it. Why? because tHeY'rE gOnNa PuSh ThE bOyS (Dean and Sam) aPaRt ThE sHoW iS aBoUt ThE bOyS oNlY. Without even thinking about the hate mail, just notice how large the difference is from how women are seen in the earlier seasons to the later seasons. Misha got tons of hate mail too for being a character that could split up the boys (probably only being allowed to say because he a man, thanks sexist producers and execs).

Only after Castiel was killed off and then Castiel fans successfully (thank you guys) got him back on the show did the hate mail largely simmer, which means female character's were allowed to stay! Which has lead us to a show with a good amount of female characters. But can you imagine having to kill characters off time and time again because people keep complaining that the show is "only about the boys." Fun times really.

So now we get to this final and we see sexism. But it wasn't just the plain old regular sexism you find in the earlier days of spn. Because now, there ARE women to talk about, talk to. But this episode was DESOLATE women wise, unless they were used for plot (which is also sexist!). Small scenes, they're barely there. Women gets her tongue cut out. Random women from s1 gets killed. Sam doesn't SPEAK of Eileen. Nothing. No mention of any female characters from the boys mouths unless they were from/in this episode itself. That's WIERD. I know we've all said it. But that goes beyond forgetting about characters. I mean its SAM'S GIRLFRIEND for Christ's sake. There is NO REASON they couldn't have said Eileen's name. Notice how Sam's wife is just... faceless. This is literally an age old sexist trope. Like... one of the things about bringing Mary back to life for s12+ is that it takes this trope... of basically a generic mother, and gives her life and feelings, whether you like them or not, they're real feelings. They said Mary isn't just a mom she's a person. Mary's existence in the later half of spn is to fix this kind of female tropes that fall upon her character, to not let these her stay a 2 dimensional character. They said we should know she's more than just the mom who tried to save her kid. Do that is the exact opposite of Sam getting a nameless, faceless wife. The sexism of the old spn wasn't just brought back, it was completely amplified. It wasn't just accidental or some exec "fixing" the story it was DELIBRATE. Whoever wrote that, didn't do ALL OF THAT by accident. Because an exec or a producer who doesn't see the flaws in old supernatural isn't going to write it that deliberately.

Let's bring it back to s10 when Charlie was killed (singer was mainly to blame). Dead in the bathtub, age old classic of burying ur gays. If you were here you know people never let Supernatural live that down. THEY KNOW what bury ur gays means. Hell, Robbie Thompson left because of Charlie's death and you think the writers don't know what it means? I mean both Bobo Berens (especially) and Steve Yockey's careers are centered around LGBT+ storytelling and you think they don't know? They know. They know.

And Dean wasn't just apart of the bury your gays trope, it is so far BEYOND that. Dean being killed on a rusty nail/screw, the tongues ripped out, things that seemed to be meant for other people. Jensen's acting in the last two episodes was giving us "DEAN RECIPROCATES" but no one ever actually saying it. I think it's clear that Dean was killed for being Bi. They didn't address it for a reason, they just silenced him. His narrative was supposed to be about letting him be HIM for the first time, to say what his feelings are instead of having them miscommunicated, and instead of doing that, they just silenced him. And the more we look at this scene the more horrific it gets. The more it's a complete slap in the face and it's supposed to be. Some guy who knows nothing about the LGBT can't write a scene this horrific.

Some guy who knows nothing about Dean couldn't write a scene that deconstructs all of Dean's character development and gives Dean his worst nightmare. I MEAN DEAN WANTED TO LIVE HIS LIFE! THEY DIDNT HIDE THAT JOB APPLICATION (or whatever job related thing that was) IN THERE FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST SITUATION. Dean isn't Barney from HIMYM. If you watched HIMYM then you'll know Barney went from being a stereotypical ladies man and treating women terribly to being in love with a women and treating her right and working hard for it. The last episode of HIMYM (why its so bad) Barney's character development is thrown out and he's back to being a stereotypical ladies man. You don't need to know Barney's character very much to do that.

To kill Dean during a hunt his father never finished, to not have anyone at his funeral, to have Dean die young like his life didn't matter. Those are Dean's worst fears and you'd only truly know that if you watched the gin episode in s3, where they are basically laid out for you. You HAVE to know Dean's character to tear him apart like this.

This episode took all the core elements of the show and did a complete 180° the name of the episode itself is "Carry on" and Dean and Sam very much did not carry on. Sam grieving his entire life so that he good get to heaven and see Dean again. Dean being ready to live his life, despite the enormous pitfalls and learning to love himself only to be killed. "Family don't end with blood." Um.... it did in that episode either literally with Dean's death or you know BECAUSE NONE OF THEIR FOUND FAMILY WAS THERE. Not Jack, Not Cas, Not Eileen, Not Donna, Not Charlie, Not Jody, Not Claire... on and on we go. No one was there, nobody was even mentioned. Dean's funeral, no one even called that we know of. It was just Sam and Dean. Sam and Dean. And Bobby. Don't forget Bobby. But yeah Sam and Dean.

That's what the show is about right, the brothers.

Except it's not anymore. It hasn't been for years.

Cas not being there was deafening but it brought us to a major point. Becky. Becky's telling us about the terrible ending.

And many of us are wondering why would they literally tell us this is the worst ending and then... make it the ending.

Now before we move on, it very apparent many of you think Dabb doesn't ship Deancas. And Dabb doesn't care about the characters.

Say what you will about any plot holes in his writing, the point he is VERY GOOD at writing the characters, and giving us good ones.

Why do we know Dabb ships Deancas? (ill say when its cowrote, other wise its not) cowrote ep 8.02 - purgatory "I prayed to you, Cas, every night" "Cas, Buddy, I need you." "I have a price on my head, and I've been trying to stay one step ahead of them, to – to keep them away from you." 8.08 Hunteri Heroici - Cas helps them hunt! 😊❤ Dean & Cas have a serious convo about why Cas doesn't want to see/go to heaven. 8.22 Dean's mad at Cas. Sam's explanation of why Dean should be easy on Cas: "It's Cas." Dean then points out how he'd knife anybody else if they did what Cas did. 9.10 - Cas comforts Dean when Dean can't take seeing Sam (Gadreel) being tortured anymore. Also tons of Cas. 9.20 (bloodlines) - Canonical couple parallel "I was there, where were you" 9.22 The angels make Cas choose between them and killing Dean and he "gave up an entire army for one guy" 10.09 Claire's reintroduction. Cas heavy ep. DeanCas date. 10.22 THE PRISONER - u know the ep where Dean beats the shit out of Cas but loves him enough to not kill him.

We COULD keep going but I think I've made my point. If Robert Singer is the guy that is like "the show is about Sam and Dean only" Andrew Dabb is the DeanCas shipper. And you could even say a Cas stan.

Notice! How in s13 for SEVEN episodes we have a story that revolves around Dean's grief about losing Cas. Notice! How often the stories in all these seasons have a focus on their relationship. THAT is Andrew Dabb. If it weren't for him doing that, we wouldn't be able to easily say after Dean's lack of a response to Cas' confession, that Dean reciprocates.

To me, when I was (binge) watching s12 for the first time, I thought damn this is really got a lot of DeanCas. So I went to look at who was in charge, who was writing. I saw Andrew Dabb, associated him with Deancas episodes, saw all the new writers, Bobo, and then I saw that Yockey is known for same sex stories and it clicked. Dabb assembled a team to give us Destiel. THAT WAS IN SEASON 12!!!!!!!!

The amount of people saying he's homophobic flabbergast me. Open your eyes! That isn't what's going on.

Imagine making a show and trying to right all the wrongs of Supernatural. Imagine trying to write the greatest love story ever told and you have the entire season planned out for it to end off beautifully, it may possibly be your greatest achievement when it's done and then boom. someone comes in and tells you you aren't allowed to make Dean bi or make destiel endgame, after he was most probably already given the go ahead.

Sure. You could imply he's bi or into cas still in a way. Still make nice-ish ending. just give everyone what the kinda want.

Or you could scrap the last season, nothing close to a canonical bisexual Dean Winchester or Deancas endgame in site. People can be done with it be happy with the show, continue to live their lives in ignorance as to how close they were to Canon destiel.

OR you can lead everyone to the very closest you can get them to what you were aiming for and then show everyone the ugly truth and reality. Light it all on fire. Burn the show to the ground in your wake. Try your darnedest to making these people's (the people saying no) pockets suffer. Show us, the audience, what happened. Show us what this show really is.

I've seen people talk about the ending being changed during covid but I dont think that happened. I think what happened was Dabb already had this season planned out before it even started. Obviously the details were wobbly but it was all lead up to this ending. Destiel endgame, Canon Bisexual Dean, whatever it was. They were ready to write the greatest love story ever told and then someone shut it down.

Imagine the pain that must have caused them to be told no when they already said yes. They must have been so excited to give this to us.

I think someone (some producers) told him what this show is "really" about. The brothers. Can you imagine, after being told no, some kinda bullshit like this is said to you: "Why aren't you bringing it back to the brothers, Andrew? that's what the shows about. What with all this homosexual stuff, you know the audience won't like that. Not really." Imagine the original producers pushing this kind of view on you. "You know when we started it was Sam and Dean. It should end with Sam and Dean." That kinda sounds like someone huh? huh.

So why give us a nice acceptable finale, when you can take every problem Supernatural's had either up front or behind the scenes and create a finale so incredibly bad that people don't want to watch it anymore.

Someone made a good point about how Sam was originally supposed to be the main focus (this isn't to put any hate on Sam or Jared). Dean and Sam are the main characters but Sam was supposed to be the focus and for Dean to have become the focus, must have annoyed the producers because... well here we are. They wouldn't listen to Jensen. The producers liked this ending. Jensen's opinion didn't matter to them.

In some ways, if this is really what happened, it can be seen as childish from Dabb. To hurt all of us like that. Yes, he's hurting the producers, the execs, the cw. But to hurt us? Yeah it stings.

But in other ways, if this is really what happened, this is Dabb showing us the muck and gunk under the shiny surface. The hate for Misha. The hidden hate for Jensen. The underlying sexism. The underlying homophobia. The people REALLY in charge don't care about us, they just want our money. He needed to open our eyes and free us, at least free the people that he was writing for. The people he sees that care about this show.

This is the ending the powers that be wanted and its a big fuck you for a reason. I dont think this is Dabb spitting in our faces for loving this show, I think this is him trying to get revenge for us.

But from here, you can see it how u want it. If this is really what happened, I'm not in charge of your emotions, if you wanna be mad be mad if you wanna be grateful be grateful. And you don't have to believe me either I said this is speculation.

Also, as for all of the rumors like there being shots to the confession scene that we didn't see, which Jensen himself implied, I think that might have been a last ditch effort to canonized DeanCas but obviously it was cut. Like the name change was pretty clear. As for Misha possibly having shot some stuff for 20 I dont know what to tell you. If it's true I dont know where the blame would lie.

I do think however, that if all this was the case, the writers were prepared to become villians here. I mean they told us the writers were villians with Chuck right? So. Who knows what went down so they could give us such a vile ending. It could've been the producers or the writers, who truly knows. I do think tho that people we "trust" did some pretty shitty things to push the narrative in certain directions so now one would see this as the actual ending that was coming.

So again do with my SPECULATION what you will. This was in no way meant to put Dabb on a pedestal or anything. Just meant to give a bit of perspective.

(Also Jensen didn't unfollow Dabb recently he was already unfollowed for years)

[finaledenialist]

so in one of your asks you said you dont think cas was in love with dean since the beginning and idk its interesting to me because everyone seem to think he was from the start so what is your take on that? idk im just curious haha

ohhh I wanted to make a post about this so thanks for asking!

disclaimer: I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade I just have a different take on this whole thing!!! 

So. I see people are like: OMG he was in love ALL THIS TIME SINCE 4x01 and I am like: no. 

Was he lost since he laid his hand on Dean in hell? Yes. Was he instantly in love? Nah.

See, Cas in season 4 and 5 is starting to feel. He is conflicted, he is questioning, he doesn’t have ‘people skills’, he is confused by what he feels, he knows there is a ‘profound bond’ between him and Dean and he is rebelling for Dean, because Dean has a point and Cas feels Dean is right and apocalypse and destruction are wrong, and this human is so human and he never had that connection before. Add the sexual innuendos, the eye fucking and the tension between those two and this is what i call ‘classic destiel’. I do have a strong feeling this is partly Jensen’s and Misha’s fault though haha but I am also convinced that the jokes like ‘Cas, get out of my ass!’/’Blow me Cas’ are purely for ‘comedic purposes’ because haha gay so funny (keep in mind it’s still 2008/2009 and things were so different then BUT we still got Endverse which had not only sexual stuff implied but romantic as well - ‘all we have left, Dean and I, is each other, if Dean says it’s time to go in a blaze of glory, so be it’ (I am writing this from memory so these might not have been exact lines but you know what I am talking about).

And then in season 6 and 7 is where things start to get romantic. ‘I watched you rake leaves’, Dean’s blind faith that no, Cas can’t be working with Crowley behind their backs because come on it’s Cas and the whole 6x20 episode is *chief’s kiss* and then season 7 and Cas dies to make things right and Dean keeps his trenchcoat and moves it from every car they have been using that season to always have it with him because part of me always believed you’d come back. OK, but I was meant to be talking mostly about Cas’ point of view. Which takes me back to 7x23 and I’d rather have you, cursed or not. I think these words had a major impact on Cas. Something just clicked. Because he realized that he could say these exact same words to Dean and they still would be true. 

And then we got season 8 which was a major shift and it really moved stuff from ‘sexual tension’ to ‘romantic tension’ and it’s still called ‘season fanfiction’ because I wanted to keep them away from you in purgatory and Cas generally not feeling worthy of anything but I think this is when he started to realize that what he feels is not like ‘brotherly friendship’ but something much deeper but he had his issues (I don’t deserve to be saved from purgatory thing) so he kind of kept it buried. But this was when the Real Love really started. But did he admit it to himself? Well I am not in Cas’ head but something must have been on his mind - Naomi had access too his mind and she immediately recognized that there is a certain Feeling that is dangerous and Cas needs to be fucking lobotomized (I still have shivers thinking about it). Did Naomi knew it was love? Idk, but she felt something was going on - that is why she tried to mess things up between Dean and Cas (I only wish he felt the same way ouch my heart....) and Metatron also recognized it, quicker and better (maybe because he spent much more time on earth and was generally a little more powerful and knowing as the scribe of God) and he immediately used Cas’ grace to banish angels from heaven because Cas was feeling love for a human. But did he, himself recognized it as love? Did he admit it to himself? I still have a feeling that no. I still think that his ‘I don’t know’ after Dean’s ‘What broke the connection?’ was honest.

Now let me fast forward to season 12, because this post is getting too long already and while seasons 9-11 had some good episodes and even good destiel scenes I feel this was the time many people - rightly so - were starting to lose faith in canon destiel, starting with Dean not letting Cas stay in the bunker in season 9 and bros acting like they only call Cas when they need him. I repeat - there were still some good episodes, even great ones. And we were shown Cas worried about Dean and being there for him anytime Dean called, there was so much pining but once again let me raise The Question: did Cas know what he was feeling was love? Or was he still confused, not letting himself believe, not being able to name his own feelings and emotions? And this is merely my opinion but this is also time where many people started to be bitter and negative by how writers treated Cas (and other characters in general but I am not gonna dive into that dumpster now, especially the Cas-having-sex-with-a-reaper thing which was awful, but in retrospect is even more awful because if it was Chuck’s writing this seems like some kind of sick attempt to do a conversion therapy and I want to throw up; plus he thought? he was into his boss at gas’n’sip and he thought she was into him and what even was it if not a. bad writing; b. Cas being confused; c. Cas being confused about this bad writing).

So season 12. First of all 12x12, when Cas thought he is gonna die and the infamous line ‘I love you. I love all of you’ happened. I  am 100% sure this is when Cas realized. This must have prompted questions for him. Why did I say what I said? He blurted those words out but why like that? Aaaand after some thinking I think he realized why. He must’ve been like ‘oooops’. But then Jack was about to be born and he had to protect Kelly and then he died.

And then he is in the Empty who says - I know who you love, I know what you fear, there is nothing for you out there. She doesn’t know shit, she just has access to Cas’ mind and apparently those were his thoughts, already at that time, he thought there was nothing for him out there (again, his depression issues) BUT THEN CAS, MY SWEET CAS, THIS BAD ASS MOTHERFUCKER says fuck you Empty in one of his best monologues (before 15x18 I’d say it was his best but here we are) and she yeets him out, because HE decided HE is already saved and he doesn’t need a permission and you can preen and you can scream and yell and remind me of my failings but somehow, I'm awake. And I will stay awake and I will keep you awake until we both go insane. I will fight you. Fight you and fight you for... ever. For eternity. 

And then Jack dies and he takes the humiliating deal.  And now we’re at 15x18 and he says: ‘I have always wondered.... ever since I took that burden.... What my true happiness can even look like... Because the one thing I want is the one thing I can’t have’. SEE THESE WORDS HERE ARE WHY I CAN’T SLEEP AT NIGHT. BECAUSE THEY IMPLY at least to me THAT:

1. He was aware of his feelings, he knew what he felt was love at the time he took the deal. and after that he was like ‘I guess I am immortal now’ because the one thing I want is the one thing I can’t have so nothing else is going to make him truly happy; this also implies that there is only one thing he truly wants and the rest is just not that important, whatever else happens won’t make him happy which is heartbreaking;

2. He knew what he wanted, so this means that at some point he wondered, he imagined, he took his time to picture the ‘thing’ he wanted. Which is life with Dean. Because he is in love. LIKE HE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, HE REALLY DID AND HE CONCLUDED THAT THIS IS OUT OF HIS REACH (now people argue if that is because he thinks it’s unrequited or because he thinks that something something hunter life-fighting all the time-no attachments lifestyle won’t allow them to have this sort of life - and frankly, knowing that he learned everything, or almost everything about emotions from Dean, who isn’t really good at them, I am not surprised if he is sure that this feeling is one-sided, because maybe he conquered his fears in the Empty the first time around but taking the deal must have made him anxious and Chuck still calls him self-hating so he probably thinks this is one-sided and he is unworthy of love anyway);

3. He tried to imagine different scenarios that would make him happy but eventually it all came down to That One True Scenario, out of his reach, that couldn’t compare with anything else, and he tells Jack - you know about that deal, it’s ok, I don’t see myself becoming happy anytime soon AND IT HURTSSS

so to conclude and tl;dr - I think Cas realized that what he was feeling was love after 12x12 although he felt it before but might have been confused by it. I do not think he was ~in love~ since 4x01. There was tension and there was pining but no. This feeling evolved, it didn’t *just* happen in the barn. 

also i am so sorry this took so long but i have thoughts and feelings and can’t form a coherent sentence since november 5th anyway thanks for asking nonny, ily!!!!

[spnshameblog]

unpopular or actually possibly controversial opinion re cockles - i think the information that a group of people had seen proof of jensen and misha living together should have stayed within their private chat. and especially that they specifically saw utility bills with both their names. at this point what is the difference between posting the photo of that proof you have and just talking about it? like so many people would have assumed either way that they lived together when misha shared that photo and message, without anyone else implicitly confirming it, but this way, even without a photo being shared, we do have information that was clearly not intended to be shared.

imo a massive difference between assuming from their public interactions (cons, other events, social media) that they're together versus sharing things like how people saw them together somewhere or whatever else someone saw in vancouver or something else they have as proof. im not gonna deny that im nosy and curious and i do like knowing these things, but ultimately i believe it crosses a line.

Yes, i agree that you should never publicise information that wasnt given willingly and i think that people kinda stretched misha's comment about staying in jensen's spare room? a lot of them justified their breaking of silence by saying that misha himself confirmed they had lived together which imho he didnt really? i'm not too mad at them for this, once the floodgate was open there really was no stopping this and i do credit them for keeping a lid on it for that long, but its a leap from having confirmed "misha stayed at jensens place sometimes" to admitting to having known they lived together for years.

i think it would have been worse if they actually shared the documents. yes, they shouldnt have talked about them at all, but by not showing proof there is still plausible deniability, which is fucking crucial. ive said this a lot, but people lie on the internet and by not sharing hard evidence we can still comfortably throw a shroud of secrecy over this. we have to maintain this so please dont go "well now that this info is out i might as well share the papers".

oh and i feel you about the being nosy part. i am a gigantic gossip and i LOVE reading about secret information, but the short rush of euphoria just isnt worth it to me, either. actors have a parasocial relationship with their fanbase, too, and this kind of stuff is a breach of trust. i would feel so unsafe if i knew ppl had seen my private documents and had talked about them online. i respect all the people who decided against sharing anything and i believe that most of them only started talking about this bc a few of them had already jumped the gun and mentioned the proof they had.

i get that people want to back up their theories and are tired of getting called delusional tinhatters ESPECIALLY by j///2 stannies, but its not worth it guys. especially if it leads to ppl actually confronting both of them with our theories.

as far as i'm concerned i will choose to treat the existence of any potential hard evidence as a rumour until we get actual confirmation from either of the guys, but tbh im not holding my breath about that.

[eisforeidolon]

my brain is also weird about gore, but I recently watched the boys s1 and s2 and it was no problem. the whole show is so over the top dark and fucked up that somehow, the gore barely registered, if that makes sense? all in all, I definitely liked it and can't wait to see jensen in s3 now!

also excited about the winchesters getting picked up. I've re-structured my dash and am following a lot of prequel-positive and supportive blogs now and their excitement and posts are contagious.

and frankly, spn is my comfort show, I've watched it for 15 years, and I do kinda miss it.

and dean has always been the heart of the show for me, the reason I started watching and the reason I kept watching. so I'll be quite happy to hear his voice on a regular basis again.

I'll also give the walker spin off a chance (it sounds at least a little more interesting to me than walker itself, which I stopped watching walker after 5 or 6 episodes. I tried, but it really wasn't doing anything for me at all).

I will definitely not be watching Gotham Knights though. for one thing, I dont care about DC superhero nonsense, and for another, because Misha. I really don't want to see him any more than I already have to by nature of being part of the spn fandom lol.

It'd be simpler if I just couldn't take gore at all, but that's not quite it? I ended up watching an entire season of The Walking Dead with a friend (a marathon leading up to the new episode she wanted to catch at the time) and didn't even flinch. But I had to leave the room for a blatantly fake Saturday Night Live sketch once. I also had to watch parts of Outlander through my hands. So I don't even understand exactly what will freak me out hard enough to keep from watching something. I'll just have to see when I actually manage to get around to trying it.

I remain ambivalent about The Winchesters. I do miss SPN and Dean was always my favorite, but a voiceover isn't really gonna do much for me if I'm not interested in the story the prequel is telling in and of itself. I was about ready to stop watching SPN when they announced it was ending because it became so hard to care those last few seasons for me, but there were some people still gung-ho about it. So I'm sticking with waiting until I can evaluate the thing itself for myself, because Jensen and Robbie's idea of what's worth watching and mine may not sufficiently overlap. I'm glad that you've found people to share excitement over it with, though!

I also hope you like the Walker spinoff. Unfortunately, on my list of things that I rarely if ever like, westerns in general rank somewhere at the bottom with family dramas and war movies. There have been a few exceptions and I'm not ruling out tuning in later if I hear great things, but it's probably not going to be for me either.

And yeah, absolutely no chance on Gotham Knights. I can go either way on superheros of any stripe, but the description makes it sound like superheros + stereotypical CW teenfest which is a no for me. Add Misha and it becomes a hell no.

[missjackil]

I respect your feelings about J2 but i will need time to get back on this bandwagon after what the Ackles pulled because the damage control tweet says "they were busy". Busy? I m not buying it. Still doesn't explain why wasn't Jared told about the project out of all people. If not personally then atleast professionally. He was the other half of spn. I knew Jared would forgive them but this whole thing did certain amount of damage to the fandom. I m happy for those who can go back to normal. I wish I could. Anyway the project alone seems like a big pile of nonsense.

And Oh Lord someone give Misha( or should I say Meisha lol) a job. It's embarassing that he tries to insert himself everywhere just to feel relevant. Pathetic!

The project does sound horrible... wont lie there. I have literally 0 interest in any character if they're not interacting with Sam and Dean.

I understand it's hard to forgive Jensen, especially if we just assume he did anything out of malice. I don't believe he would ever intentionally hurt Jared. In 15+ years the man has done nothing but gush over him, so even though it hit me like a semi when it all started last night, I had to remember what I know about these 2 and accept that i really dont know what happened, how it went down, or if Jensen even "pulled" anything.

They're not glued to each other's hip anymore and with thousands of miles between them, theres bound to be misunderstandings and hurt feelings sometimes. They're grown men who have loved eachother for the better part of 2 decades. Theyre not petty or vindictive and we dont even know if they HAD talked about it before and maybe Jared said he couldn't because of Walker, and the article looked like its some sure thing when its actually in the very early stage.

Most of all, the only forgiveness needed was between the 2 of them and they did. If anyone wants to continue to fester and ruin their own fun, that's their right. But that's not me.

[green-blue-heller]

hey, can you explain the cockles breakup? i saw u just posted about it and s7 and ive seen speculations but i dont think i really understand what happened lol

Hi Anon!

Thanks for your question!!

First off - DISCLAIMER: I do not know Jensen or Misha, or anyone they know. I do not have any direct information or confirmation of any information in this post. This information may or may not be correct (if anyone has any further clarification, feel free to add it - just please know that this same disclaimer will extend to such comments). None of this should ever be discussed with Jensen or Misha. Their lives are theirs, and while the fandom may discuss and speculate, it’s not okay to do so with the actual people.

Ok... now that we have that out of the way!

I will find the post that gave me the most of the information that I have about it, and reblog with it.

But it’s after 1 am, so I’ll give you the quickish answer now lol.

So, in 2011 Misha was essentially fired from SPN as Sera Gamble was killing off Cas (he’s in S7 ep 1-2, and then doesn’t come back until ep 17, I think it is). He wasn’t supposed to come back, at all. He was supposed to be dead dead.

Summer 2009 is where the earliest flirting is seen with JenMish. I think it was AHBL 1. It is on YT. They’re doing a signing, and Jensen and Misha are going back and forth saying about how they couldn’t see each other and they were worried. Jared pipes up and says that he’ll keep an eye on them and let them know the other is still there.

Vicki and Dee are behind Jared and there is definitely giggling going on.

Then Dec 14 2019 is when Jensen posted what’s referred to as the 10 year anniversary pic and it’s assumed that the original was taken around the same date (if anyone has any links to the pic being talked about, can you please share?)

So, if you assume Dec 2009 is when cockles officially became cockles, then it wasn’t very long after when word would have trickled down that Cas was being killed off. I’d say maybe late 2010 to early 2011.

As far as I can tell, no one knows who ended it. Speculation is probably Jensen, saying it would be too difficult now that Misha wasn’t part of the cast, even though he only lives like an hour and a half from Vancouver.

It also has to be taken into consideration that Jensen and Dee got engaged in 2009 and married in 2010. Then 2011, Misha is written off the show.

It’s fair to assume Jensen wouldn’t have wanted to rock the boat at home for something that he wasn’t sure could be sustained.

So, during the 2011 con panels (I think starting around the time of the Asylum convention) Misha is totally different and a little sarcastic/meanish. The matching rings and bracelets also disappear during this time (but different matching/coordinating jewelry shows up later though).

At Rising Con 2011, Mish and Seb have a panel, and Seb says his favorite sound is when he’s laying next to someone he loves and listening to her sleep.

Misha buts in and says “or him” and looks really sad. He’s off the entire panel.

This continues for a while with panels.

I don’t know what con it is, but at one of them, Jensen does talk about how he is glad that Misha is back on the show. I don’t know if they’ve made up yet at this point, since I don’t know when it is from.

I haven’t watched all the 2012 panels (hardly any) but by JIB, they seemed to have maybe made up.

Jensen jokes about their panel being sort of like a blind date. And apologizes that it might be a bit awkward, sort of like working together. Then Misha says that he rather enjoyed working together.

Jensen assures him then that it was great, and that he had a great time. Then tells Misha it was not him (Misha), that it was him (Jensen).

Then Misha says he thought it was really special. And Jensen makes a comment about how maybe they can give it another shot and Misha kinda shakes his head.

This is either Jensen still in the groveling phase, or the trying to be cute and apologize and say he’s happy they worked things out.

Jensen is a little extra flirty.

But it’s obvious after this that things are fine. Since by JIB10, they ran outta fucks to give and Misha literally straddles Jensen on stage and Jen gets a boner and has to adjust himself. Lol.

Though it’s obvious they’re sad about the show ending. I’m sure the breakup (if there had actually been one) over them not being on the same show anymore from 10 years ago is coming back to them. And I’m sure it’s especially not easy with covid.

But they still seem to be bringing up each other when talking, when it’s not really necessary. And Jensen still gets his stupid (in the most loving meaning) smile when he talks about Misha.

And they were obviously texting each other during the panel on Tuesday.

So, hopefully, cockles is still going strong. It’s been 11 years now, not like 1. So hopefully they have learned how to deal with things.

If only The Boys was shot in Vancouver and not in Ontario. Then he wouldn’t be far from Misha, to be able to see him once there aren’t mandatory 2 week quarantines when arriving in Canada.

But I know during JIB10, Misha made several remarks about moving to Austin.

This would be amazing, though idk of him and Vicki would actually want to uproot the kids. So it may be a more wishful thinking. Even if not, I’m sure covid is making that impossible at the moment.

So... I hope I answered your question, nonnie. Lol.

Like I said, I’ll reblog it tomorrow with links to the post I found on it, as well any other links to the panels in question (if I can find them again).

Though all the ones I talked about are on YT.

Let me know if you have further questions, either in the comments or via another ask! 💕

Edit: the post now has additional pieces, with links to other posts and references. So I suggest checking the comments to get the latest version!

[i-am-a-confoosed]

You know what F*** this I am going to write a script on my own ...

Part 1

For first part after Jack becomes god :

(Cutting screen time on god punching them and some useless stuffs...)

Characters we have : Sam, Dean and Jack.

After Jack becomes god and gives his big speech and gets everyone back slowly,

Dean : " Jack can you do something for me"

Jack (smiles) looks at him and nods : "yes"

Suddenly Jack, Sam, Dean and Impala (outside) are transported to an abandoned barn.

Sam and Dean *confused* : whaaa---

Jack : "You know I can kind off read minds now I know what you want"

Flicks his fingers and a rift appears.

Suddenly Sam phone rings, its Eileen in video call.

Eileen (confused) : "Hiii Sam so I dont know whats happening but I feel a little confused werent we messaging before ?"

Sam (happy) : "Eileeen hiii listen just go back to the bunker I will explain everything to you there"

Eileen : OkAyy

Call gets cut.

Sam : "Jack what is this all about" *gestures to rift*

Jack looks at Dean,

Jack : "You know I can bring Cas back now if you want"

Dean (stares at the rift) : " yeah but I guess I have a little my own raising from predition and saving to do"

Sams (chuckles) : "Seriously, come lets go save Cas"

Dean : "No brother you go to yours while I save mine"

Sam nods smirking and turns to Jack,

Sam : "you should know Jack that we are very proud of you and you can come to us at anytime" *hugs Jack*

Dean : "Yeah" *hugs him* "I know you will do great kid" *steps back* "there are few more in there *gestures to rift* to save if you can do help them out, hell there is even a monster maybe" *sad chuckle*

Jack (nods) : "I know while consuming god I consumed his knowledge also along and I think I know which ones you talking about" *smiles*

Then Jack touches Dean forhead to place a warding on him and falls a little.

Sam and Dean : "JACK"

Jack : "I am finee dont worry, Dean I placed a warding for you against others. Only Castiel and empty can see you in there but dont worry empty cant harm you"

Dean nods as Sam and Jack hold hands together and are out of the scene.

(If we could get Eileen here then:

Sam and Eileen meets outside the bunker and hugs and kiss each other. Eileen thanks Jack and as Sam and Eileen are happily going in bunker, Jack leaves the scene.)

In barn,

Dean enters the rift and everything around him is dark. He frantically starts calling out Cas name when suddenly empty cas comes behind him.

Empty cas : "This day just keeps getting worser and worser, GET OUT"

Dean : "Not without Castiel now where is he ?"

Empty Cas (anger) : "Castiel-Castiel-Castiel that angel RUINED MY SLEEP AND LIFE. I went through every corner of his brain and you know what he doesnt like you much so I am doing us both a favor when I say LEAVE he is not worth saving for anything."

Dean (almost in tears) : "Cas listen if you can hear or see me please come out, I need you"

Empty Cas : "Thats enough"

Proceeds to lunge at Dean when someone from behind pushes him down.

Dean : "Cas come lets go home please"

Castiel nods at him and gets up together hand in hand they run when suddenly empty now in the shape of empty comes in front of them.

Empty : "you are not leaving"

Dean pushes Cas behinds him and faces empty.

Dean : "Stay away from him, this is empty no place for souls right so that means you cant kill me I am an extra so if you want to get rid of me then if you have to get rid of him too"

Empty gives a evil smile : "you are right but guess what I dont care anymore"

As empty starts moving towards them, Dean takes Cas and lunges towards rift and pushes Cas outside. Dean faces empty.

Dean : "yeah thats what I thought"

And goes outside and the rifts closes.

End of episode

Next episode (finale)

Characters we have: Dean, Sam, Bobby, Cas (I dont think so Misha would have minded to come in last episode)

Maybe character: Eileen and Jack.

Pick up scene in barn.

Cas (worried voice) : "Dean where is Jack and Sam. What happened, how did you ?"

Dean : "Well yeah I explain you later but first I think I will leave a mark"

Cas is confused as Dean touches their lips together. Now as there forehead touches together, Cas smiles to himself a little.

Dean : "I am so sorry Cas it took me so long to see I love you too heck have been for a long time. I am sorry for how I treated you and I will make it up to you Cas I will, everyday little by little I will. Bobby he taught me better."

Cas : "Its okay Dean I undertsand"

Dean : "No that is no excuse, you are my goodluck Cas and also how many times I asked you not to stupid stuffs"

Cas (grinning) : "It worked didnt it"

Dean : "yeah yeah lets go home I will fill up everything for you in car"

Together they are shown entering the car and scene ends.

(If we can have Eileen and Jack here) :

In bunker we see Sam, Eileen, Cas, Dean and Jack have a movie night with drinks and snacks.

Screen turns black and words come after 1 year :

We see Sam carrying a baby girl in the trolley and having a video call with Eileen while picking out the grocery.

Sam : "How are the preparations going ?"

Eileen : "Its going good. I am so excited we both will be going to law colleges soon"

Dean appears from behind with a basket in his hand and comes to screen and say.

Dean : "Proud of you kids here and uhhh *picks up child* and espicially of this little Garthie. (Put any name you guys want). Look at my baby brother taking care of this little cutiee"

Eileen laughs : "Now that we both will be little busy looks like she will be spending a lot of time with her uncles"

Dean (cooing) : "yeah she will"

Sam (rolls eyes) : "Yeah! Anyways meet you at home. Love you. Bye."

Eileen : "Love you too. Bye"

Scene cuts to outside the grocery store near two cars where one is impala.

Dean puts the baby in the (non impala) car while Sam is loading the trunk when suddenly Cas appears.

Cas : "Hello check this out I found some really good looking flowers today in heaven I thought I will give one to you *gives one to Dean* and hii Sam here you also keep *gives two to Sam* share with Eileen" *winks*

Sam : "thanks Cas they are really pretty"

Dean : "this is beautiful thanks sunshine"

Cas : "Also today I got a bit free of those rules and negotiations with hell, heaven, everyone and now Jack is resting *looks at dean* whose by the way the powers are draining out the more he is using pretty soon he will be left with his soul"

Dean : "Well then he can always come and live with us"

Sam agrees : "Anytime"

Cas (nods) : Anyways I finally got time to go and visit Bobby today and see how he is doing. I told him about you both and he says and i quote 'he is proud of his boys' "

Sam and Dean smiles.

Sam (whispers) : "Bobby is proud of us Dean"

Dean (hears it with a stassified face of finally making his 'dad' proud) : " yeah, Cas can you carry him a message from us and tell him that we love him and thankyou for everything"

Sam : "yep and that he always will be home to us"

Cas nods and Sam continues keeping his bags.

Dean faces Cas : "see you at home later" kisses him on cheeks. Cas leaves.

Sam : "hmm so no chickflick moments right"

Dean : "shut up"

Sam (rolls eyes) : "Where you will be going now ?"

Dean : "I think to the shop I have some work there"

Sam nods and hugs Dean and gets in the car while Dean gets in impala. We can see 1 year sobriety chip in the back seat.

Next scene we see both the cars start and ride as the soft music version of wayward sons song starts.

As both car reaches the traffic light they take different turns and camera keeps going up and up. Next scene.

With the song still playing we see Bobbys kitchen and there seem to be something baking in the oven.

Bobby is sitting in chair with a bottle of beer and having conversation with castiel. As Bobby smiles and nods his head, he gets up throws the bottle in trash *as the sound of music fades in background* he then turns to Cas and says,

Bobby : "I think its time I go and enjoy with my wife huh"

Cas nods.

Bobby : "Rufus is going to have a field day with this one" (chuckles happily to himself)

Castiel confusingly looks at him. Some things never changes. Bobby goes hugs Cas. As Bobby leaves the kitchen and Cas flutters out the soft song comes back on.

We get the final shot of Bobby's kitchen now empty from upward angle. The first home ever know to the boys.

As the screen becomes black we get the final lines of song "Dont you cry no more".

The end

[you-cant-spell-subtext-without]

what would you say is your best method to beat writer's block? i've been writing this fic for weeks but i get blocked very often :(

okay so a few things I do:

1. don't write the fic! write when it feels fun. (this is hard, however so also when you are practicing this one, do the below:)

2. write something else! anything that does feel fun and easy. a poem, a diff fic, a drabble. a description of a blade of grass in a text to misha. whatever, etc.

3. do something creative that's not writing. draw. sing. color. cook. watch the bees. make up a dance that a butterfly would do.

4. listen to music. music ALWAYS helps me; it's why I have a playlist for every chap of my WIP. think ab songs that would be on a soundtrack for your fic. then think about songs that would be on a soundtrack for the next parts you're writing. I swear then the story will write itself.

5. watch the show. whatever mood you're trying to evoke - watch an episode w it. for ex: my chapter for Angels this week was a very Dean-centered one, so I watched: Skin, Dream a Little Dream of Me, Despair, and Inherit the Earth (I know but I had to for a scene). if you dont have time to watch an ep - read the transcript/script.

6. watch a show NOT related to your fic (Lucifer has been giving me lots of inspo lately)

7. read something. I find this lubes the brain. even a chapter of a book (or fan fic if it works for you, personally I find non-fan-fic reading is better for me when writing) or a short poem (Mary Oliver never misses, Mish ain't wrong ab her) does wonders.

8. go for a walk or a run outside. listen to music (see no. 4)

9. text misha and ask him to send you good vibes.

10. drop me an ask and ask me to send you good vibes.

11. re read the bits before. esp the ones you like. remember why you like them, and how excited you were when you started this.

12. ask the fandom for inspo!

13. close your eyes. breathe. count to 10. tell the universe you are going to write this, and its going to be fucking GREAT. repeat until you remember that you can.

bumps dont stop us, send me an ask!

[priceforrottenjudgement]

I’m gonna try and write out my feelings about this finale, so i can try to put this to rest and move on once and for all.

I feel sorry for the cast and crew who had nothing to do with this ending. I cannot possibly determine who had a hand in it and who didnt, I’m not going to write anyone angry comments on social media, but I’m also not going to defend anyone.

Whoever decided to do this did so deliberately and knew what would happen. The confession scene in 15x18 was calculated. They wanted the biggest possible send off for the show and wanted to maximise the viewers. How to do that? By activating shipper sleepercells. The cast and crew of supernatural are VERY aware of their fandom and the popular ships, they have shown this and said so time and time again. They knew there was a huge untapped reserve of mostly queer fans who had stopped actively watching the show, but were still keeping a close eye on the show bc of nostalgia.

They knew they would get a huge amount of attention for a confession and they did, possible more than they expected. 

They knew from the start that they wouldnt do anything with it though. You simply cannot tell me they had to rewrite the last two episodes bc of covid and bc Misha couldnt be there or something when they had no problems bringing back Bobby and some rando from season 1. I simply will not believe it.

They also knew they would get so much shit for burying a gay in 2020, you also can’t tell me they didnt know this was a bad thing in the year 20 fucking 20. So they held off on giving Misha a proper sendoff so that the fans could and would interpret this as a sign that Misha would appear in later episodes. Which he didnt. They even threw in a few sprinkles in 15x19 to keep people interested, like the voicemail and Dean demanding Chuck bring back Cas. 

And then on the day of the finale came the gaslighting. In the recap before the episode they focussed primarily on Sam and Dean and their fucking car, things that were outdated by season 3. They had little segments about recurring characters (Crowley, Jack, Rowena,...) and shit, but deliberately didnt place Cas in a prominent position, in fact, Cas’ segment seemed to blend in with the other ones. Absolutely nothing special about him. They even had his segment AFTEr Crowley’s ffs which doesnt even make sense from a chronological standpoint. They also kept harping about family and how Cas was a 3rd brother and at this point i knew they werent going to do anything. This recap was supposed to make anyone feel stupid who thought supernatural was about more than Sam and Dean and the car and the monster of the week and maybe daddy issues. Seriously, i think they could have almost had this exact recap before the finale of season 5 if they’d cut the Jack and the Rowena segments and the random footage of minor characters.

The confession scene was notably absent from the recaps, especially weird as it was Cas’ last scene.

So this was their fallback in case fans accused them of queerbaiting, erasure, etc. See, supernatural has ALWAYS been mainly about the boys, Cas is nothing special, I’m sorry if you thought otherwise lol. here is this recap to prove it.

Then that shitfuck episode aired and the baited community predictably lost their shit WHICH THE CREW KNEW WOULD HAPPEN. THATS WHY THEY ALL GOT THEIR GOODBYES OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE THE EPISODE AIRED. This episode wasnt a universal failure, i have it on good authority that it went pretty well with casual fans who also happen to be straight and have had a particular dislike against, say, Cas or Rowena or Jack etc., imagine that.

And now they’re going to portray angry fans as annoying little fangirls, who wanted these two poor men to kiss against their will and who bully actors off of social media by voicing their disappointment and hurt; this is all so fucking predictable. Why does this still hurt so much?

I was angry about Sherlock, i was fucking livid, but I didnt feel hurt and I didnt feel used and I wasnt ashamed for being baited. See, Sherlock has many many faults, but they didnt toy with their fans to the extend that spn did. This was cruel and calculated. They knowingly used a huge chunk of their fans, mostly the young, female and queer part, to generate views and that feels vile.

I dont buy for one second that they didnt know what was coming, not with all the backlash and criticism they have seen from other shows and THEIR OWN FUCKING SHOW. 

so sorry, I dont condone abusing and harassing the cast and crew (mainly the actors who i dont believe had muchsay in the script), but they wanted the maximum amount of attention, so now they have to deal with the consequences.

[nancylou444]

I forgot if i sent it to u or someone else so i'm sending it again anyway

Please Read this to the end and then judge me.

I do not understand at all why you and all other anti destiels dont ship destiel and think that dean is straight and i hate you for that from the bottom of my heart. i mean cant you see how dean truely loves cas and gives no shit about Sam, his brother?and also jensen and writers ship it.

You are so stupid and do not deserve to live in this world period

Read this list below.it may help you take off your anti destiel colored glasses and Accept the truth:which in fact is that Destiel Will become canon.

Reasons Why Destiel Will Definitely Become Canon Before The Show Ends 101:

1.Jensen Ackles: Destiel Doesn't Exist.

2.Jensen Ackles: Because Dean is a lover of the LADIES.

3.Dean will always choose SAM over anyone else.

4.SAM and Dean are soulmates.

5.Castiel: you chose EACHOTHER.

6.Jensen Ackles' Unscripted Frustrated look into the camera in "Fan Fiction" episode.wink wink

7.Jensen Ackles: there wasn't a whole lot of dean and cas storylines in season 9.personally,i kind of enjoyed that.

8.Jensen Ackles: i think the whole dean and cas thing has gotten a little out of proportion.

9.Jensen Ackles: "destiel is real" is it?? Where?? Where is it real??

10.Jensen Ackles: What? What castiel? Nah just me and my pies!

11.Jensen Ackles: We sit down with the writers in a couple weeks. It boils down to these two brothers, that’s the core and the heart of the show, their journey, their fight for each other.

12. “You are homophobic if you don’t ship destiel!"

13.Dean Winchester is fuckin Straight.

14.Eric Kripke : I'm just really interested in guys, STRAIGHT guys who have a tight friendship,they are really fun to write...

15.Dean Winchester: I'm Dean winchester.i enjoy sunsets,long walks on the bitch and frisky WOMEN.

16.Dean Winchester : I dont swing that way.sorry.

17.Dean winchester : yeah sorry again pal i dont play for your team.

18.Dean sold his soul for SAM.

19.Dean died so that he could meet with Death and get SAM’s soul back which of course Castiel left in hell.

20.Dean gave away the Impala and was willing to die with a Croatoan infected SAM.

21.Dean breathed in the poisonous smoke, so that he would die with SAM.

22.Dean wanted out of an AU with Mary and Jessica alive, because AU!SAM didn’t like Dean that much.

23.SAM and Dean made promise to each other, made vows to each other really, in a church.

24.SAM and Dean choose each other over the world, anything, and everything, EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

25. Dean refers to SAM as though HE is his spouse (”does he want a divorce?”, “Lucy”...)

26.Dean would rather live in a world WITH demons than live in a world WITHOUT SAM.

27.When Dean forgot everything else, including his own name, he still remembered SAM.

28.Dean : I can’t do it without my brother, I don’t want to 

29.Dean to Sam :You’re the ONLY one who could’ve talked me out of it 

30.Dean to Sam :There ain’t no me if there ain’t no YOU.

31.Dean to Sam :“Because whatever we have between us, love, family, whatever this is, they’re always going to us it against us.”

32.Dean to Sam: “You’re my weak spot SAMMY, and I’m yours”

33.Dean or Sam i dont remember: “All that matters now, all that’s ever mattered, is that we’re together.“

34. Dean to Sam :“Don’t you dare think that there is anything, past or present, that I would put in front of you!“

35.Dean to Sam : “I made you a promise in that church, you and me, come whatever!”

36.The canon friendship between Dean and Castiel is toxic and borderline-abusive, full of lies, threats, insults, abandonment, beatings, and betrayals.

37. Sam, possessed by the devil himself, took control of his own body and beat Lucifer because Dean was there, because Dean didn’t give up even though he was hurt and covered in blood, because seeing Dean bombarded Sam with the memories of their life together.

38. Dean didn’t leave SAM’s bedside , didn’t bury him, didn’t burn his body, didn’t want to say goodbye, and how later he didn’t hesitate to sell his soul.

39.Dean decided not to go into a box, because SAM asked him not to.

40.SAM and Dean were the ones whom were mistaken with gay couple by several people if that matters.

41.SAM to Dean :“you always put me first. Your whole life”,

42.Dean to SAM: “I know where I am at my best, and that is right here, driving down crazy street next to you”,

43.Sam or Dean i dont remember:“you know what brought me back? You did”.

44.Dean’s siren-as admitted by the siren herself-was a copy of SAM.

45.Dean told a male cop "you're awsome".OMG!! He is bi!!!

46.Dean fanboyed over a male tv character.Holy Chuck!! He is bi!!

47.Jensen or Jared:“At its core, it’s the story of two brothers.”

48.Jensen or Jared:“At the end of the day, this starts and stops with the brothers.”

49.Jensen or Jared:“When it comes down to it, it’s about these two brothers.”

50.Dean told Castiel to get the hell outta bunker for SAM while he knew he didnt have his angel powers.Damn! Dean truely loves Cas!

51.Dean figured Castiel was too far gone to be convinced back into their group and bound Death to do their bidding. Dean’s order to Death was to kill Castiel where he stood.#couplegoals

52.Castiel blackmailed Dean by torturing SAM.oh dear god!!! What a True Lover!!

53.Castiel Betrayed sam amd DEAN with crowley.but that's what all lovers do Right???

54.This isnt some romantic show.

55. Castiel is a genderless celestial wavelength of light wearing a male vessel.

56.Dean's chemistry with Baby the Impala is far more noticable than the one with Castiel.

57.Sam even once asked Dean and Baby the impala to get a room.

58.The possibility of Dean and Baby the impala to get sexually involved and the two of them having sex in the finale full frontal is far more than the possibility of non existant Destiel to become canon.

59.Destiel shippers are only a tiny minority of the SPN fandom.

60.Jensen Ackles is fucking done with this shit.

61.Dean left Ben and Lisa for SAM.

62.Misha Collins is the only one who queerbaits.

63.Dean in "red meat" described SAM as the man he loved.

64.Dean sang in a colorful background.OMFG!! he is bi!!

65.Jesen ackles : because being with his BROTHER and doing that is the happiest he is.

66.Dean to SAM: "because i couldnt live with you dead"

67.What show you've been watching???

68.Jared : because that would have RUINED the show to make it about something it wasnt about.

69.Dean has kissed and had sex with an angel.her name was Anna

70.Sera Gamble said “supernatural is the epic love story of SAM and dean”

71.Cw_supernatural IG: it has always been two brothers and the open road.

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*Manic laughter*

*Aggressively drop the mic*

*The door is over there*

*Boom! Suck it*

*It sucks to be destieheller*

You are very welcome

Btw I'm a Proud anti destiew and a logical SPN fan.

If You think I'm right,then Chuck bless your logical souls and if not,let me find some fucks to give....sorry,none was found.

The begining part was an example of a savage destieheller.it wasn't me😊ignore it.

Yours truly,anon.

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Holy crap, that is one longass ask. An ask I was thisclose to deleting until I skipped to the bottom. 

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[hiddenwritingsintheworld]

Small Town Missed Connections-Part 1 (Jensen X Reader)

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                You heard your phone chime in your back pocket and a smile instantly appeared on your face. You almost dropped the boxes in your hands as you walked down the stairs from the storage in the upper loft of the building. “Easy, someone’s in a cheery mood today. What gives?” Amanda, the sassy 17-year-old blonde you’d hired for summer help, said as you reached the bottom, allowing her to take the top box. “Oh nothing, I just can’t be in a good mood?” you asked with a smile, which she knew hid a secret behind it. She narrowed her eyes and sighed “fine. But one day, I will get it out of you.” She walked away taking the box with her. “Don’t forget to go through that and price everything! I should still have the book under the counter!” you called out as you walked over to the coffee shop.

               “There she is,” an older more cracking voice called out. You set the box down behind the counter and turned smiling at the older gentleman. “Mr. Zukowski! Good morning! How is the coffee and muffin today?” you grinned asking a bit louder so he could hear you. “Good, good, thank you. You seem busy, I won’t hold you up. I just wanted to tell you, the weeds out front are looking a little tall, I could take care of those for you.” He smiled politely. You let a small laugh slip out as you came around the counter, “Mr. Zukowski, I’ve told you before, you help me out by making sure my coffee and muffins taste perfect. Now, I’ll have Zach bag up a couple of muffins for you to take home, and tell Mrs. Zukowski, I’ll be by this afternoon to check on your guys garden okay? I don’t want you back out there after your accident last time okay?” you nodded to him. “I’ll call someone to come and take care of those darn weeds okay?” you helped him back to his seat so he could finish his breakfast and finish reading the paper.

               “You are so sweet, thank you dear.” Mr. Zukowski smiled and patted your hand as he sat down. You smiled at him before going back over to the counter. “Every day, I don’t get how you do it. That man drives me crazy,” Zach told you as you opened the box. “Zach, it’s people like the Zukowski’s that made this sweet little town, just the way it is, perfect. Now, help me with these fall decorations.” You smiled. After getting everything-and everyone where they belonged, you finally had a minute to check your phone.

               ‘Why good morning, I thought you were never going to text me back’ Jensen texted back right after you’d sent good morning. ‘Sorry, it’s been a busy morning at the shop, now I have some weeds to pull, a garden to check on and I need to do a supply order, do you realize how much I hate ordering supplies. I wish there was this magical little button I could click and bam. All the supplies I need-ordered’ you sent back with a face palming emoji.

               Jensen began typing a response then stopped, then the dots came back again. You laughed at his constant typing-deleting-retyping thing he always did. ‘So, if I could spare your attention for a moment, I took a photo this morning and I wanted to get your opinion on it before I post it on Instagram, so do you have time?’ he asked with a heart emoji. You sent back a thumbs up with a smiley face, ‘For your photos Jay, I always have time. Let me see it.’ You sat back in your office chair and smiled as he texted the photo.

               It was of his lake house, just a side view though, from the front porch. The photo was capturing the early morning sunrise with silhouette of trees against the lake. You stared, mesmerized by the photo, wishing you had a large cup of coffee and were curled up in a warm sweater there on the front porch chair, watching the water as you drank your coffee. ‘Whoa…..that is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G, have you posted that yet?!’ you texted back instantly.

               A few moments passed before you had a notification from Instagram, Jays Photography had posted a new photo, with the caption, “Sure missing a near and dear friend this morning, this one is for her.” Two red hearts followed the caption and your heart beat just a tad faster as you liked the photo and replied “What a lucky friend. Photo is incredible. I’m sure she loves it,” you sent the comment and got back to work.

                As the day went on you and Jensen texted back and forth, talking about anything and everything you could want. Business picked up in the afternoon so you’d quickly found yourself busy with customers; meanwhile Jensen had found himself busy as well.

               Jensen had met up with Misha, Vicki, Jared, and Gen and was having dinner all together. “So listen, Vicki and I have been talking and why don’t we all go on a little vacation?” Misha asked the group as they all smiled. “That sounds so wonderful, I can have my mom watched the kiddos and we can be ready to go by the weekend. Where were you thinking of going?” Gen asked setting her fork down so she could take a sip of the strong red wine her and Jared were drinking.

               “Well, we want to go somewhere off the map, a small little town where we can relax and not be bothered by anyone.” Misha told her. Gen nodded after taking a bite of her salad, “There’s the cutest little town I found while googling the other day! We could go there!! It’s like 6-7 hours from here!” she smiled pulling up the name of the town on google.

               The group agreed, the entire time Jensen had remained quiet though, he had been waiting on you to text him back. When you finally did, a grin broke out across his face. “What are you grinning about?” Jared asked as he tried to take a peek at Jensen’s phone. “Nothing, I’m just texting a friend of mine.” Jensen told him. “Come on Jay, you tell me everything, except for what feels like the last 6 months where you’ve been texting someone and not saying a word about it to me. Who is it?” Jared asked again.

               “You never told him about Y/N??” Misha asked popping his head up between the two of them. “Y/N?? Who’s Y/N????” Jared asked before yanking the phone away and began reading through the messages. Jensen glared at him and tried to snatch it back quickly. “What the fuck man! Give that back! It’s mine!” Jared finally gave it back after Jensen had jumped and tried to reach it. “Dude, you need to meet this chick, you guys sound really interested in each other.” He told his best friend, but Jensen glared at him “My cell phone is private, you gonna blurt out anything else?? This girl actually means something to me,” Jensen shook his head and walked off, he’d walk himself home.

               You had just gotten out of the shower when you grabbed your phone, laid down on your bed and texted Jensen again. ‘Okay, finally, we have time to chat, sorry I’ve been super busy with work lately, things are changing and it’s all a little much for me to handle on my own.’ You texted back. A few minutes later Jensen texted back ‘hey 😊 don’t work yourself to hard okay? Believe me, I’m sure my ex-wife has a few stories she could share about how much I worked on my previous job, even though she worked too but that’s beside the point. I’m glad you’re finally able to relax for the night. What did you have for dinner?’ he sent back with another smiley face.

               You laughed and texted the picture of the take out menu, ‘my favorite Chinese place, it’s quick, easy and on my way home from work, plus they have the most amazing egg rolls in the entire world. I love them so much,’ Jay sent a message back a few moments later with two laughing faces. ‘Lucky, I love Chinese, I had dinner with a few friends of mine.’ The conversation carried on until you passed out mid-text. Jensen waited for ten minutes until he finally realized you’d fell asleep. He smiled, wondering if anything would you be able to meet some day? Would you like him, not because he is an actor and made lots of money but because he preferred chocolate syrup over his strawberry ice cream? Or how about the way he watches movies, a medium popcorn, because the small isn’t big enough to share, and it always disappears before the movie starts and the large is too big, way to much salt and butter; two candy choices, a sweet and a sour, both enhance and cancels the salty popcorn, as well as a large soda. How about how he cooks, slow, but to perfection, and there’s always a meat, potato, and vegetable. He was more worried you were just interested in the fame, not for who he really was. But maybe this trip would help him clear his head some.

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