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wait, is there a dovi/jorge feud???? i didn't know this!! also thank you so much for all you do for this community â€ïž
not the only ask I've gotten about this and... look, rather than doing a proper write up that would take forever, I'm just gonna give my top ten fun... facts? bits of trivia. tidbits related to the two of them. quite long tidbits, on second glance. the highlight reel, if you will
(1) that time andrea dovizioso made 14 year old jorge lorenzo cry
the two of them already raced each other before the start of their grand prix careers, competing for the first time in 2001 in the cev when dovi was around 15 and jorge around 14. in riveras tobia's biography, here's jorge talking about their first fight:
I led the way at the start and Dovizioso and I escaped. It was our first head-to-head encounter, the first time we raced each other. My dad had heard that Dovi was a really clever rider and he warned me before the race. But just like in 1998 at Jerez, with Olive, I acted like a dummy and pushed for the whole race. I kept looking behind me to see the bastard still there! It was impossible to shake him off, he was watching me the whole race until the last lap. Three comers from the end I could hear his engine getting closer and I saw his shadow to my left, but he didn't come past. I thought to myself "This guy is going to try something in a second!" I decided I had to on a tighter line and close the door. Sure enough, Dovi went wider through that comer and then dived up the inside. I didn't close the door in time and tried to get in his slipstream, desperately hoping I could get him the next corner, but I ran wide and he won. I came back in tears, I didn't even want to go to the podium, I felt so cheated. I'd been on the limit for the whole race and I felt like I deserved the win more than he did.
so that's a nice and positive start! there's something charming about how even fifteen year old dovi was an absolute menace on last laps
also about that race:
'Jorge beat Dovi in Braga but in the previous race at Most, what a tantrum!' recalls Juanito, laughing. 'He didn't even want to go to the podium, he was crying like a baby! I can still see Dani (Antatriain) talking to him, trying to convince him. In the end he went but he didn't want to look at anybody.'
(2) the photo finish
in 2004, they were rivals in 125cc - a year in which dovi claimed the title and jorge was p4 in the standings. in the very first grand prix ever at the lusail circuit (pretty eventful weekend, you have to say), jorge and dovi crossed the line at the exact same moment
(3) dovi's top three favourite career win
dovi and jorge progressed through the categories at the exact same rate, and after their 125cc rivalry they continued fighting in 250cc. they were title rivals in both 2006 and 2007, with jorge's aprilia winning out both times against dovi's underpowered honda. (the general pattern was that dovi clawed back a bunch of points from jorge in the wet - jorge, with perhaps the exception of a few years in the premier class until around 2013, has never been much of a wet weather racers, while it's always been one of dovi's strongest traits.) for dovi's 300th career start in 2019, he was asked what his top three wins were - and one of his picks was from way back when in 2007
I'd recommend the race! which... well, I did in the race rec post - and I can only reiterate that these two kids do not acknowledge each other, not good vibes at all
(4) jorge's thoughts on young dovi from 2008
Jorge has a lot of respect for Andrea Dovizioso and feels that his two 250cc world titles have even more prestige because he had to beat the Italian to win them. 'You wouldn't label Dovizioso as fast, particularly, but he's much faster than he looks. He doesn't set many pole positions but he is always up front in a race, fighting to win. He is very intelligent and you can't trust him an inch on the last lap. He has been faithful to Honda, he has great belief in them. His negative side is that he tends to play the victim too much. He'll say that if his bike had a better engine or if it was a bit faster he would win. He's even said that if he was on the same bike as me he'd give me a hiding. I think he looks for excuses too often sometimes, but as a rider and a person I don't have a bad word to say about him.'
some dovi traits read as very familiar, from how he's a better racer than qualifier to the intelligence to the last lap prowess. as for jorge saying dovi plays victim too much? well
also this:
ER: Don't you think that Dovizioso wanted to be World Champion too in 2006 and 2007? Don't you think he gave everything to achieve it? JL: He will think he gave his maximum but he will be lying to himself because nobody does that. Nobody gets close to their maximum, not even me. He will think that he didn't win because he was riding a Honda. There are very few sportsmen who will say, I deserve what happened to me and there are no excuses. I didn't know how to do any better and I've done things wrong.' That is the only way to be the best, the only way. People who make excuses don't get to the top. I know riders who haven't made it for just that reason.
plus ça change
(5) jorge's thoughts on young dovi from 2018
when they were doing their thing as ducati teammates (bickering), here is one of the things jorge said about dovi:
dovi's been trying to undermine jorge's morale his WHOLE career... even when they were but teenagers... love it when you can really tell someone's been sitting on something for over a decade
(6) "also lorenzo is not my friend"
both of them moved up to motogp in 2008, jorge with factory yamaha and dovi with satellite honda. dovi had a very strong rookie season and finished in p5, only sixteen points behind jorge in p4 (who after a promising first few races had spent a lot of time that season crashing). after that, their fortunes diverged. dovi did not have a particularly happy time in the factory honda team and needed to do some shrewd negotiating to be retained by them for 2011 in that three-man squad, while jorge of course won the championship in 2010
here's a deep cut from 2011, a season where much of the excitement and drama was caused by marco simoncelli alone. jorge had exchanged tense words with sic in estoril, one race before simoncelli was responsible for a crash where dani broke his collarbone. the crash and sic's subsequent penalty meant that the three-way fight between jorge, dovi and valentino became one for the podium, with dovi and valentino eventually grabbing the two remaining spots behind casey. but during the race, jorge had executed a... questionable manoeuvre on dovi, one that did have some similarities to the sic/dani incident. given jorge's strong previous comments on racing standards, unsurprisingly the journalists pounced on this incident in the post-race presser and ask the podium sitters about it. here is the clip:
in this clip, dovi essentially says it was a dangerous move from jorge, but he wasn't sure what jorge's intent had been and he needs to watch the footage again. valentino (who had been the most outspokenly critical of sic of the three of them earlier in the presser) takes the opportunity presented to him to have a bit of a potshot at jorge. he says that dovi doesn't have the best relationship with sic but jorge had done something pretty similar in the race... at which point dovi goes "also lorenzo is not my friend"
which, you know. not exactly a major incident, but I find it very charming dovi felt the need to clarify that, actually, he doesn't like either of them. valentino also adds that by jorge's own standards, surely he too should have gotten a penalty. not exactly a meeting of jorge's biggest fans hm
(7) mapping eight-gate
well I can't leave it out, can I
so in 2017 jorge switches from yamaha to ducati and does not have a great time of it. a lot of weekends, he's just too slow, other times he shoots to the front of a race at the start (typically not great news for the rest of the field in his yamaha days) and then chews up his tyres before gradually dropping like a stone back through the field. at some point that year it became a bit of a running gag - especially when you saw he was the only big name to be picking a soft tyre and just went... buddy we ALL know how this is gonna end....
while this was happening, his teammate dovi was for the first time in his premier class career in championship contention. an extremely close title fight throughout the year with five protagonists until pretty late in the season, it eventually went to a title decider in valencia between dovi and marc. you know, the kind of year where every point counts. the race where marc put a bit of daylight between himself and dovi was phillip island, with marc winning a great dogfight out front while dovi had a bit of a horror show of a weekend. this meant that a lot would have to go right for dovi to have a chance of still winning the title... and sepang was already a match point race for marc
ducati had not won a championship since their 2007 title, courtesy of one casey stoner. after that year, their bike became steadily less competitive every season, reaching a nadir around the 2011-13-ish period. so by the time 2017 rolled around, they wanted this so so badly - even if they wouldn't have expected dovi to lead the charge. dovi had only narrowly beaten out iannone in the 'who's going to be fired for our shiny new lorenzo hire' contest of 2016, and really it was supposed to be jorge who was carrying ducati's dreams on his shoulders. but, never mind, they were throwing everything behind dovi now... no stone left unturned
which brings us, of course, to the subject of team orders. this discourse really took off at the penultimate race of the season at sepang, but was already brewing before that - and in phillip island, satellite ducati rider redding had been told early in the race to let dovi past
here from marc at sepang:
dovi had been in great form all weekend at sepang - and with his wet weather prowess being what it was, really there shouldn't have been any need for team orders at all. but he got a sluggish start, and the race unfolded from there... until eventually jorge was in first, dovi was in second and marc in fourth. in those positions, marc would have clinched the title there
and then, jorge got a message on his dashboard. suggested mapping: mapping 8. pit boards and dashboards and all sorts of boards will feature various codes during races, most of them completely innocuous - but of course they are a healthy source of all sorts of conspiracies. the timing of this one was certainly... notable, and speculation immediately started about how it might be a way of telling jorge that he should swap positions with dovi
jorge didn't end up letting dovi pass - it is questionable whether he really would have done so with what would have been his first ducati win on the line. in the end, he made a mistake that let dovi through so that dovi claimed the win anyway, keeping himself in mathematical contention in valencia. and jorge did say afterwards he was keeping dovi's title hopes in mind, kind of
jorge also said he hadn't gotten any message indicating team orders, and of course nobody at ducati confirmed that mapping eight did have anything to do with team orders
for what it's worth, this is what dovi said about their relationship at this stage:
lovely! let's see what the vibes are like a few months later
anyway, onto valencia. this race was pretty boring despite being a title decider, but the jorge/dovi bits were just unequivocally the weekend's most enjoyable aspect and rather nicely spiced up the whole thing. dovi's chances were always slim going in, given he'd have to win the race and marc would have to barely get any points at all... but still, you never know, right? marc could always crash (narrator: he did almost crash). jorge plays coy early in the weekend about the whole 'helping dovi out thing', and basically just started putting in place...? ... very specific conditions...? under which he'd help:
so during the actual race, dovi got stuck behind jorge in p5, with marc ahead of both of them. valencia is traditionally not a fantastic track to overtake at... so even if dovi had been faster, it's not like he'd have an easy time clearing jorge and cracking on. but they were beginning to drift further away from dani in p3 as ducati watched on, increasingly unamused by what was happening - and the tv cameras were of course kind enough to repeatedly show the ducati box looking deeply unamused. again, they went for the good old mapping eight message, which, hey, that could mean anything! they sure did keep showing it to jorge though, almost like he wasn't paying attention to it
eventually, they abandon all subtlety and go for a pit board message that does just straight-up tell jorge to swap positions. jorge kept ignoring the messages, lap after lap, and he never ended up letting dovi past. eventually they both crashed and marc claimed the title with a p3 finish, so it wouldn't have mattered anyway, but... still. the feeling was that this might things rather awkward inside of ducati
publicly, ducati was extremely keen to smooth over the whole controversy, saying they totally weren't mad at jorge blatantly ignoring team orders. jorge had, after all, explained to them (and the media, repeatedly) that he had totally been intending to help dovi by dragging him closer to dani
Giving his take on events, Lorenzo acknowledged that he ignored Ducatiâs instruction because he felt Doviziosoâs chances would be boosted by having him directly ahead. âEven looking at this [dashboard] suggestion, I keep pushing until the end, because I knew it was the best thing for me, for Ducati and for Dovi,â said Lorenzo. âI helped him to improve his pace by one or two tenths, to be as close as possible to the first group. My intention was, and it was the case, that we arrive at the first group. If he had the option to win, I would have gone wide and let him pass. But unfortunately it was not like that. Maybe in some corners Dovi was close and I slow down a little bit his pace, but in general terms, having my wheel in front of him made him improve slightly his pace. I helped him stayed closer to the front group. âI knew Dovi was struggling, I knew his pace during all the weekend, and I knew he was making the best pace of the weekend just in the race. It was [because of the] help from my wheel. Iâm happy because I was not wrong. If I was wrong and slowing him, I would be very sorry. But itâs not like that, my feeling was true.â
which, you know. is it really that easy to tell how much faster you are than someone who's sitting on your rear tyre? who's to say. dovi did certainly seem rather keen to get past
anyhow, of course there were plenty of fun dramatics post-race:
'our rider ignored team suggestions not team orders' is a great line, fairs. there's plenty more of this from ducati, some excellent spin doctoring - and dovi was extremely magnanimous about what had happened:
the whole thing was pretty undignified from all non-dovi parties, but it was also very funny so who's to say if it was bad or not
(8) runner-up-gate
let's check in on them in 2018, the second and ultimately last year in which they were teammates. remember that 'undermining morale' quote from above? those are from early 2018, after dovi says he wouldn't be surprised to see jorge elsewhere the following season. so, once jorge has complained that dovi had been trying to put him down his entire career, comes this:
so that's something. jorge, dovi and dani have a three-in-one crash in jerez, after which some fingers are pointed but it all remains fairly civil, and a bit later dovi says that jorge's approach doesn't work at ducati:
by the summer break, jorge's results had gotten better, but it was already too late to save the relationship with ducati and they parted ways. anyway, here's dovi and jorge having another go at it:
And while a rough patch for Dovizioso coupled with breakthrough back-to-back wins for Lorenzo in Mugello and Barcelona have now left the pair just three points apart in the standings, Dovizioso refused to back down from his claim when speaking to Spanish sports daily Marca ahead of the upcoming Brno race. âHeâs won two races,â Dovizioso said. âWinning two races does not solve the problem of a year and a half. Lorenzo was not signed to win two races. Therefore I do not change my mind.â When the comments were put to Lorenzo, the three-time champion offered an ardent retort, stating that Dovizioso's rhetoric was proof of the claim he'd made back in April. âI'm a bit fed up with this situation, mainly because when I had trouble and he was winning, I was down there applauding,â Lorenzo told Spanish broadcaster Movistar. âWhat I said in Argentina - and the comments caused a big surprise - you can see that I was right. âHe tried to undermine me, or downplay what I achieve or just attack me. As you can see, I wasn't lying. He's still doing it and now he says my method is not good, according to him.â Lorenzo intimated that Dovizioso was in no position to criticise him, as the Italian could do no better than runner-up to Marc Marquez in a 'perfect' 2017 season. He said: âI think my method has not worked too bad in my career. I've won three MotoGP titles and have 46 wins.â âIn my second year in Ducati I'm usually faster than him, but maybe I should look at his method closer if in his best season, with everything going perfectly, he was second. Otherwise he's fourth or seventh usually. I'd tell him to leave me to go my way and to focus on his own and everything will be better, because when you have an angry Lorenzo it's usually worse for you.âÂ
fair to say that by this point the pretence at civility has mostly been dropped. I'm rather fond of the "lorenzo was not signed to win two races" line, though "when you have an angry lorenzo it's usually worse for you" is also really strong stuff. dovi tries to restore a little bit of peace:
Responding in turn to Lorenzo's tirade, Dovizioso sought to play down the conflict. âJorge has his ideas and I think they are based on particular things. I don't think like him, but it's not a problem,â he told Movistar. âEverybody creates their own ideas based on what they see and how they live. âI don't think he has everything clear in his head about what's happened, but we continue the relationship that we started last year with respect, there's no particular problem. If he thinks this way, that's his problem."
so basically the classic 'idk what he's on about but it's not my problem' approach to attempting to defuse feuds
(9) twitter-gate
there's a few more on-track battles where it's nicely obvious how badly they want to beat each other, with jorge beating marc just ahead of dovi in austria and then dovi beating jorge in brno. jorge's season is increasingly derailed by injuries, which sets the stage for their next big spat:
The row was sparked by Dovizioso's comments to Sky Italia after qualifying at Sepang on Saturday, as he was asked what he thought of Lorenzo having to pull out of the Malaysian GP weekend with injury. "I don't know the details, I don't want to get into this, it's a bit of a strange situation," said Dovizioso."It happens often in Ducati or to certain riders, but I don't understand the details and I don't want to get into it and give my opinion." When it was put to him he was offering 'cryptic words', he added: "I leave things there, it's not my problem."
pretty vague, yeah. but anyway, I'm sure jorge had a proportionate response to this
Dovizioso's comments prompted a series of irate posts from Lorenzo on Twitter, with his first reaction being "Thank you very much @AndreaDovizioso! You are a real gentleman!". In his next post, he went on to call Dovizioso "an exemplary teammate", adding: "You applaud him under the podium when he wins and then... (That's right, he does not give his opinion, it's not his problem)." After that, Lorenzo labelled Dovizioso "envious" and described him as "a world champion... in 125cc."
the podium thing really bothered him, don't you think. their ducati in-fighting follows that general pattern where dovi says something... a little shady, a little ambiguous, where his intentions aren't entirely obvious... at which point jorge goes all in at fighting back and has a go at dovi - often not as much for what dovi is actually saying, but what jorge thinks dovi is implying. which is based on his understanding of dovi, the image of dovi he's built up in his head over the years, so that he is... predisposed to think ill of the intentions of the 'intelligent' dovi who always knows exactly what he's saying
again, dovi tried to downplay the argument, while simultaneously not exhibiting much patience for jorge's stance:
After the Malaysian GP, Dovizioso was asked about Lorenzo's responses to his comments, and the Italian accused his teammate of reading too much into headlines. He said: âWhy should I talk to Lorenzo? I do not waste time on these things. He makes the usual mistake of giving too much importance to what is written, even without the context. "I have not pointed my finger at anyone and I have no problem with Jorge."
if I were ducati, I probably would've let the whole thing blow over given jorge was off soon anyway. but they decided the whole thing was so bad they had to organise a peace summit
Asked about the situation, Ducati sporting director Paolo Ciabatti admitted to Motorsport.com that the Bologna marque has already planned to sit its two riders on Tuesday in Milan to make it clear what its priorities are. Ciabatti said: âIt is clear that the interests of Ducati come before personal problems between riders. On Tuesday we will be together in Milan, for the EICMA [motorcycle show] and we have in mind to spend half an hour to sit and talk to Jorge and Andrea. "We want to avoid similar things to what happened last weekend. "I understand that these kinds of situations can happen. Sometimes riders get nervous during a Grand Prix weekend and on a rainy day, with tricky conditions, sometimes they say things they shouldnât have said."
god knows how that turned out
(10) wow, you guys aren't gonna let this go, huh
late 2020 and jorge's career is already over, while dovi's looks like it will be... paused, at the very least. which is always a good time to check in with riders on how they feel about their rivals - if they're still being nasty you know that shit was personal. from december:
some quality petty material here. "I can't understand his somewhat peculiar mind" vs "he was envious of me since 250cc, but I wanted to give our relationship a chance". note too jorge talking again about how generous he had been in the face of dovi's 2017 successes, and how he feels like this was not reciprocated at all. jorge's complaints don't stop there:
merry christmas!
not the only rider jorge has beefed with post-retirement, but compare and contrast with how he really hasn't been doing any of that with some of his biggest career rivals. valentino, marc, dani - sure, he still talks about the controversies he's had with them pretty regularly (to put it lightly), and he's hardly free of complaints... but mostly it's a distinctly nostalgic tone he's adopting with these guys. admittedly, it helps that none of those three have gone out of their way to say anything particularly inflammatory about jorge. still, the absolute lack of any sort of rapprochement with dovi of all people is pretty funny
bonus: that time when jorge skittled all of marc's rivals
you know how in catalunya 2019, jorge took out like? all of marc's major rivals in that era including himself in one go? with half a decade of hindsight, this was kind of hilarious, and it did also feature jorge having to eat a hell of a lot of humble pie and go to the three other blokes to apologise. anyway I have a lovingly assembled set of screenshots of all three of them emoting in their boxes after the incident, all suffering some form of an existential crisis. here is dovi contemplating the bleak realities of our brief lives on this planet:
truly one of the world's least enthusiastic waves
bonus 2: another one for old time's sake
already posted this elsewhere, but this from late 2023 made me laugh
"jorge came to ducati and thought he was going to beat everything, but in the end he didn't" uh huh
#also thank you!! that's really nice#valentino is absolutely SHAMELESS in that clip i'm crying... saw some low hanging fruit and took a chainsaw to the entire tree#laughs a bit TOO much at that dovi line. a little restraint I beg#andrea dovizioso#brr brr#//#ad4#morale tag#batsplat responds#very lazy post sorry but i just wanted to do something fast... i do think they're more interesting than just a list of drama#real lack of mutual respect... how little they get each other... also jorge's side of that 250cc rivalry is sooooo...#currently still cooking up that jorge/valentino post which means i'm obviously revisiting my jorge primary sources#and the way valentino and dovi get described in particular is... hm how to describe this... this isn't just a sports thing but -#- especially in sports and especially at juniors level you come across a lot of people who act like they're constantly on camera#jorge at that age has extreme sports film syndrome. his entire team also has sports film syndrome. the author has sports film syndrome#they're constantly trying to write character arcs for him. 'like a superhero after his darkest hour' that kinda thing#and that also means other riders sometimes get this treatment where you're a bit? this doesn't feel... completely in touch with reality#dovi's The First Rival who's there to help jorge grow... it's quite tricky to explain because you can't point to anything SPECIFIC#it's just tones and vibes really lmao#anyway my point is I do have Takes on this dynamic but for now. here is just a random assortment of stuff with a lil bit of context#I do love it when you have a kind of primary text for these riders. they're all COMPLETELY different#all with quite funny editorial choices that sometimes tell you as much about the blokes as the actual text itself#fwiw the jorge one was the one where i had the most moments of 'hm i'm not sure it happened quite like that but continue'
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Harley: is literally friends with Batman at this point in the comics
some folks: uh actually Harley hates him! the fandoms "wine aunt" jokes miss the point because she hates Batman and she hates his family!
Harley Quinn (2021 - ) #29
just the little things (having a snack) you do with your enemy you hate so so much who you despise and wish would die and who's family you deeply hate and also wish would die
#ivy doesnt care enough about him to hate him lbr#he's a pest at best#but if she Hated him he'd be dead just like realistically j0ker should be#she has way too much power and the constant ability to kill him if she hated him that much#he's not worth her time he just gets in the way#and ya know dc constantly pretending like she wouldn't be able to just#violently murder anyone if she wanted to because plants are kinda really powerful???#a plan and failsafes are nice and all but you can't gadget your way out#of a plant growing /rapidly/ inside your intestines and ripping you apart from the inside until your organs shut down or you bleed to death#also also sorry but if you list that one detective comic with the gaming systems in your argument I'm gonna disregard your opinion#That chapter has the same level of understanding about Harley & Harleen as the ebkt comic did.#aka insulting trash#harley quinn#harleen quinzel#dc comics#batman#bruce wayne
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If you have a highly elaborate story youâre making, I highly recommend making little organized charts for simplicities sake
Cricket, Kyzer, Romeo, Carrot, Icky, Hopps, and Screwy belong to @ickyguts
Kyle, Bully, and Kyle belong to @technicoloranimalviolence
#happy tree friends#Htf#Htf idols#Htf be brave#Htf god trio#these are all wips too#the story is constantly evolving and growing and being finessed#thereâs a lotta other canon ocs not listed here#and some that havenât been made as of yet#but figured some of yâall might be interested in these#loretime
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I do think the wildest part of the Skyrocket/Connie concept is that Visaggio seemed to legitimately believe that Kon-El is like... a D-List superhero. Which is just like, a wild thing to believe considering the Comic Kon won in a fan poll hadn't even finished coming out at the time she pitched her idea.
#dc comics#dccomics#superboy#kon el#Like if she was maybe 15 years younger I'd get it? Because that'd be growing up on 2010s comics where Kon didn't have a book for most of it#But like Kon was in books during the 90s. He was in books during the 2000s. He was in books until like 2014?#And then he came back in 2019 and got a book again.#Kon's at worst a lower c-tier character but probably more like upper C-tier?#Constantly in adaptations pretty consistently in or has a comic.#The big periods where Kon hasn't been in comics is like 'Kon was killed because of stuff happening in editorial or on a corporate level'#Like it's from 2006 to 2009 (dead) and then 2014-2019 (Dead + weird N52 stuff).#Arguably Kon was sort of not in comics between the end of Bendis YJ and then YJDC... But he did have appearances.#Also there were like 8 events during that time and frankly Suicide Squad was using Match which I'll count.#Kon doesn't always have a solo book but he tends to have one more often than lots of other characters.#Even when not in a solo he still tends to be in team or Superman books.#Will add that I don't oppose Kon being trans conceptually and I've given my thoughts on that specific outline for a story before.#I just think in future check that a character is a D-list character before deciding to do a massive reinvention
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WHAT BRUSH DO YOU USE FOR SKETCHING
itâs so hard for me to answer questions surrounding brushes bc i literally switch between SO MANY all the time LMAOđđ listing all the ones i love would take me 3 million years
tho iâve still rlyyyy been loving the gesinksi ink brush (procreate) for literally everything (sketching included) bc of how nice it is w lineweight !! that is rly the only one i can give u a straight answer on âŠ. i will sketch with literally anything tho i love switching things up constantly
#people ask about brushes so often and i feel like i can never give a good answer HAHA#i just love SO MANY OF THEM. and the list is growing constantly too#but if thereâs ever a piece of mine youâd like to know which brushes i used just DM me!!#would be more than happy to do that for anybody :-)
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Hi! Huge fan of your fics, kinda new to Tumblr. Do you ship any of the engines (if you donât mind me asking?)Â
Hey, thanks for dropping a line!
I was a non-shipper for quite a while, then I started dabbling. I'm open to lots of different (and conflicting) ships but some of the ones that I'm most committed to are:
Thomas/Bertie
Edward/BoCo
Henry/Bear
Percy/Harold
Duck/Donald
Douglas/Toad/Oliver
Mavis/Salty
Also, if you trawl my archives long enough, youâll see occasional references to Toby/Diesel and James/Porter. And you might wonder: Wait, are they f***in' serious? The official answer is that the former is just for a lark (specifically, for a dare)⊠but the latter I am indeed pretty serious about. ;)
#unless i'm choosing instead to interpret james as. like. diesel-sexual. and in denial about it.#actually no matter what i tend to see james as just having no idea how to handle feelings for another engine#(this makes 'old iron' so much more fun to read but. like. i actually think it's more interesting if james/edward is not endgame.)#(and it takes james several more decades to grow to the point of not simply torching a relationship whenever he is beset with a crush.)#(... and to me that's where porter comes in lol.)#(coz usually james is the confused and confusing pursuer. and it's weirdly healthy for him to have a cool new yorker pursue *him* instead#but in like a pokerfaced and noncommittal way. and james is the one driven insane for a change.)#also toby/henrietta is super valid ofc and usually i favor it#but sometimes i honestly list instead towards henrietta/elsie and toby is just. like. their gay best friend#(whom they are CONSTANTLY trying to set up with another engine. (but they have the most shite taste.))#aw fork i was so proud of keeping this response short and sweet and now look at what i'm doing to the tags#thanks nonny!#i would love if you shared your own fave ships#chatter#ttte shipping
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tfw you want personalised tips on how to start your transition but harrassment campaigns against trans people online has tailored the urge to never talk about your agab
#there is a small population of people who actually know#and i never want it to grow because like#the one (1) time i broke this rule i was constantly misgendered#and while it doesn't make me violently dysphoric or anything#i hate even the possibility. same with trigger lists#jacquet.txt
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ten songs iâve been listening to on repeat recently âš
thank u thank u darlings @courtjestermerlin, @moondal514 and @ittyybittybaker for tagging me, this is fun!
1. gwen - wilt
2. vicious - sabrina carpenter
3. a handsome stranger called death - FOE
4. bone church - slipknot
5. a night on the town - the dear hunter
6. you are the apple - lady lamb
7. candy - rosalĂa
8. it remembers - every time i die
9. crimson stone - converge, chelsea wolfe
10. amends again - the ongoing concept
i am giggling, this is a truly... uh... interestingly curated playlist bahahaha, but anyway apparently that's what spotify says i've had on repeat recently? so there you go!! apparently i have to tag 10 people which honestly jhdfgjkshd why do you think i even KNOW ten people???? if you see this tag youâre it xoxo
#pretty sure 'amends again' made the list because it gave me a fic idea!!! vicious is also fic related (jlz in growing pains fhjfdgfh)#anyway i'm bad at music but i've been driving a ton for work and for the house move so there's always music on#i don't know how to drive without music on lol#surprised the noah kahan album didnât make the cut#because iâve listened to that constantly for days now#anyway this is a mess lol#tag games#[insert melting emoji here]
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Thanks, Tumblr, for sending me a notification that someone I donât follow has just posted something with tags I specifically muted. Kudos for that NoTP jump scare. đ
#muted tags fail#itâs funny how some ships start out as ânot for me but I totally get itâ#then through the power of social media#and the whole constantly-in-my-faceness of it#(fandom being fandom too)#It starts to actively annoy me#the list of such ships would grow ever longer if I actually kept a list
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When you're trying to determine the legality of possessing the remains from a certain species in your state and the search results are all clogged up by articles like "TEN ANIMALS IT'S LEGAL TO OWN IN CALIFORNIA!!!" So you're trying all these different wordings like "Is it legal to own x parts in CA" "Is it legal to possess x remains in CA -pet" "Is it legal to buy an x skull in CA -pet -keep -own" lmao. I just want a website where I can search any species and it'll give me the relevant laws
#you'd think if you can't find anything you're in the clear but uhh I live in California#and the list of prohibited species is constantly growing#we made selling fur illegal a while back and I did not hear about it until some time later#and I'm glad I didn't attempt to buy any pelts during that time because I never would have thought to check something like that
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"im so normal about this villain OC. i can leave them evil" (lying through my teeth)
#this is specifically about#oc: videres nasica#video has been on my mind constantly đ€đ#would not be surprised if they end up in my top 10 fave ocs list soon#i just! sometimes i love a villain OC so much that i cant handle leaving them awful/fucked up!#especially ones like video....they never had a chance#the thought of them never getting a chance to grow and be better makes me unfathomably sad#even if narratively wrt my current plot of Velocity....it would make the most sense if Video dies after becoming the main antagonist#but i dont want them to ): i want them to at least START on a path to redemption#i wasnt supposed to get this attached to video!!!!! fuck!!!!!
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It's almost been a year and I am still eating dirt over Ankh, even more than I was at the start honestly
#ive gained a lot of toku faves since then and its a ongoing and constantly growing list#but ankh still makes me eat the most dirt out and the most insane of them all#theres just something about that bird. i love him dearly#linky posts
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roll this out unannounced
Yeah, not like staff made a whole-ass post about this at all! /s
Also if you were already opt-out of data sharing you're opt-out by default. Source: I was.
They are already selling data to midjourney, and it's very likely your work is already being used to train their models because you have to OPT OUT of this, not opt in. Very scummy of them to roll this out unannounced.
#I go into settings constantly#cause my block list is a-growing#and I didn't notice it the last dozen of times
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I just really truly wanted a full long life w that person and I now have to accept not ONLY will it NEVER happen literally ever but that he didn't want it like I did even tho he said he did đ„Čđđ»
#that he wasnt my safe person đđ»#that i told him things and let him in and he never deserved to know any of it đđ»#that no matter what either of us does there is never any going back đđ»#that he lied constantly đđ»#all this goddamn shit. and it's hitting me like a ton of bricks because i really saw him thru rose colored glasses.#i really thought he could change..that he WOULD change..cos he said he would#and the audacity is at the end it was ME who was cruel because i couldnt just 'love him as he was' and that my love was 'conditional'#...because i wanted him to stop hurting me and start sticking to his goddamn word and actually BUILD the life he said he wanted#i'd have rather him admitted he didnt want that life.#idk what the hell he was thinking i never will. because even if it truly was as selfish and as simple as#'well if i say this i'll get what i want' ...i'll never understand that either#i will never understand.#'i cant wait to marry you. move in. have a kid. grow old.' but it was all lies. u wanted the fantasy.#and the 'not wanting to build our life' was just the final straw in a long list of shit#dont get me started on the boundary pushing and manipulation i could go on and on and on
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Learning that fans hated Applejack and called her "boring" is crazyyy to me because I genuinely, unironically believe AJ's the most complex character in the main six.
Backstory-wise, she was born into a family of famers/blue collar workers who helped found the town she lives in. She grew up a habitual liar until she had the bad habit traumatized outta her. She lost both her parents and was orphaned at a young age, having to step up as her baby sister's mother figure. She's the only person in the main gang who's experienced this level of loss and grief (A Royal Problem reveals that AJ dreams about memories of being held by her parents as a baby). She moved to Manhattan to live with her wealthy family members, only to realize she'll never fit in or be accepted, even amongst her own family. The earlier seasons imply she and her family had money problems too (In The Ticket Master, AJ wants to go to the gala to earn money to buy new farm equipment and afford hip surgery for her grandma).
Personality-wise, she's a total people-pleaser/steamroller (with an occasional savior complex) who places her self worth on her independence and usefulness for other people, causing her to become a complete workaholic. In Applebuck Season, AJ stops taking care of herself because of her obsessive responsibilities for others and becomes completely dysfunctional. In Apple Family Reunion, AJ has a tearful breakdown because in she thinks she dishonored her family and tarnished her reputation as a potential leader ââ an expectation and anxiety that's directly tied to her deceased parents, as shown in the episode's ending scene. In The Last Roundup, AJ abandons her family and friends out of shame because believes she failed them by not earning 1st place in a rodeo competition. She completely spirals emotionally when she isn't able to fulfill her duties toward others. Her need to be the best manifests in intense pride and competitiveness when others challenge her. And when her pride's broken, she cowers and physically hides herself.
Moreover, it's strongly implied that AJ has a deep-seated anger. The comics explore her ranting outbursts more. EQG also obviously has AJ yelling at and insulting Rarity in a jealous fit just to hurt her feelings (with a line that I could write a whole dissection on). And I'm certain I read in a post somewhere that in a Gameloft event, AJ's negative traits are listed as anger.
Subtextually, a lot of these flaws and anxieties can be (retroactively) linked to her parents' death, forcing her to grow up too quickly to become the adult/caregiver of the family (especially after her big brother becomes semiverbal). Notice how throughout the series, she's constantly acting as the "mom friend" of the group (despite everything, she manages to be the most emotionally mature of the bunch). Notice how AJ'll switch to a quieter, calmer tone when her friends are panicking and use soothing prompts and questions to talk them through their emotions/problems; something she'd definitely pick up while raising a child. Same with her stoicism and reluctance at crying or releasing emotions (something Pinkie explicitly points out). She also had a childhood relationship with Rara (which, if you were to give a queer reading, could easy be interpreted as her first 'aha' crush), who eventually left her life. (Interestingly enough, AJ also has an angry outburst with Rara for the same exact reasons as with EQG Rarity; jealous, upset that someone else is using and changing her). It's not hard to imagine an AJ with separation anxiety stemming from her mother and childhood friend/crush leaving. I'm also not above reading into AJ's relationship with her little sister (Y'all ever think about how AB never got to know her parents, even though she shares her father's colors and her mother's curly hair?).
AJ's stubbornness is a symptom of growing up too quickly as well. Who else to play with your baby sister when your brother goes nonverbal (not to discount Big Mac's role in raising AB)? Who else to wake up in the middle of the night to care for your crying baby sister when your grandma needs her rest? When you need to be 100% all the time for your family, you tend to become hard-stuck with a sense of moral superiority. You know what's best because you have to be your best because if you're aren't your best, then everything'll inevitably fall apart and it'll be your fault. And if you don't know what's best ââ if you've been wrong the whole time ââ that means you haven't been your best, which means you've failed the people who rely on you, which means you can't fulfill your role in the family/society, which makes you worthless . We've seen time and time again how this compulsive need to be right for the sake of others becomes self-destructive (Apple Family Reunion, Sound of Silence, all competitions against RD). We've seen in The Last Roundup how, when no longer at her best, AJ would rather remove herself from her community than confront them because she no longer feels of use to them.
But I guess it is kinda weird that AJ has "masculine" traits and isn't interested in men at all. It's totally justified that an aggressively straight, misogynistic male fandom would characterize her as a "boring background character." /s
At the time of writing this, it's 4:46AM.
#mlp#yeah i wrote this last night during insomnia.#yeah i know an embarrassing amount of crap about this kids show#but whatever it's my hyperfixation i'll store as much useless information as i want!!!#i'm gay and neurodivergent i have an excuse#in case you needed more proof that aj's my favorite character#personal#delete later#unless you like this analysis stuff#i get why they didn't reveal aj's parent's death until way later and why they didn't do much with it but i wish they did#cuz narratively there could've been so much material with aj's grief. like. i feel like we gloss over the fact that she lost her#mother and father as a teenager#i tried keeping my personal hcs out of this to keep it unbiased#but i'll put some in the tags#involving rarijack ââ i think aj can be (but not always) very self-conscious about her relationship with rarity#anxieties that she's not the right fit or that rarity will move away and leave her some day or that another woman will take her attention#(like in rollercoaster of friendship?? nudge nudge??). basic seperation anxiety stuff#long post#regarding applebloom whenever i think about her and her parents i think about that scene in steven universe where steven looks up at#a portrait of his mother and openly wonders what kind of sack lunches she would've made for him. that episode still fucks me up
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#cool so the ptoblem resolves itself in the worst way possible đ#thats. definitely what i wanted. wowie.#yeah cool i get into a new fandom and immediately alienate my best friends and i cant seem to fucking STOP MYSELF.#everything is falling and im constantly vibrating out of my fucking skin with it#and the list piles itself higher and higher#the list of obligations ive yet to attend to grows higher and all i can do is spiral deeper into the shift that latched on to me#dragging me down into the black and i CANT SEEM TO STOP MYSELF!!!#im sorry that its spreading everywhere i go and i keep upsetting everyone and i keep doing it wrong and i just wanted to be closer to them#why cant things be SIMPLE again?!#i was HAPPYâ DAMNIT!!!#...anywaysâ thats the show. tune in tomorrow for the usual fare#vent
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