#and the implication of a world that does not have a separation of religion and government and capitalism

[maxgicalgirl]

JONNY SIMS IN THE SILT VERSES JUMPSCARE !!!!!

[meetmeintherestrictedsection]

The Blind Blood Best Guess Fest - Reveals!

We've done it again! A Tomarrymort fest in which our writers anonymously submit a story and guess who wrote what! This time, the theme is all things BLOOD AND/OR WINE.

These authors have used all manner of wily tricks to avoid detection, including but not limited to bluffs, double-bluffs, imitation, gaslighting, manipulation, bribery, or general miscreant behavior.

But the time has come for our authors to drop their masks and proudly claim their beautiful, bloody, and sometimes slightly tipsy work!

Greenest when groves are gaunt by @cindle-writes Word count: 5000 Rated: M

When Voldemort starts coughing up white holly petals, he is in serious denial about what it means… …until he can no longer ignore the potentially fatal implications. A Hanahaki disease AU

A stunning subversion in the Harrymort Hanahaki world in which Voldemort is the one with Hanahaki.

Redacted Hogwarts Parchmentwork by @theladygia Word count: 876 Rated: E

An excerpt from the parchmentwork of Alastor Moody¹, Hogwarts' Defense Against the Dark Arts Professor 1994-95, later discovered and annotated by Professor Severus Snape on 31 October, 1996 as he polished off his second bottle of elven-made wine².

¹Read this fic. ²Read this fic.

Red Hair, Red Eyes by @gryphonfeather Word count: 2361 Rated: M

Ginny does not cope well with having Tom ripped out of her. She drags Harry down with her.

Fics that make you howl and bark and roll on the ground.

Separated from Thee let me never be by @vdoshu Word count: 727 Rated: M

“Lord, I give unto you my devotion. I am Your mouth, I am Your hand, I am Your vessel upon the world.”

Never been so into religion. And religion has never been so into Harry!

Spice by @cannibalinc Word count: 1260 Rated: Not Rated

After his resurrection, Lord Voldemort finds himself craving blood. But none of the blood that his followers provide can satisfy him.

Picking up notes of tortured hero-boy in this wine.

And special mention to @the-wig-is-a-metaphor and @cindle-writes for tying for the most correct guesses!

Thank you so much to our writers for creating these lovely stories! Each is a delight in its own bloody, grapey way!

Banners and fest title art created by @cannibalinc.

[greenerteacups]

I'm on my nth re-read of books 1-4, and I keep finding new things to be delighted by, on top of the old reliable lines that make me giggle every time. Like in book 4:

“Yeah,” said Harry, whose success had overdosed him with optimism. “Hey, think about this: you reckon I can just Banish the water and walk down?”

“Oh, bless, he thinks he’s Moses.”

How does (presumably pagan-ish or non-religious based on holiday celebrations) Draco know about Moses? Does he think Moses is a wizard??? I mean... he DID accomplish several miracles with a big stick. Any of the implications here make me cackle

Oh this is awesome, I've been wanting to talk about this for ages: I think wizards know what the Bible is! And Christianity, and Judaism and Islam, and I think there are practicing members of all of those religions (and more!) in the Wizarding World. Here's why.

The Bible (Old Testament specifically — Draco's references lean towards the OT because that's the broader cultural referent, it's the common glue of the Bible/Quran/Torah and if wizards know any Abrahamic text, it's that) is a huge, ubiquitous, world-shaping cultural text that was thousands of years old before the International Statute of Secrecy. The date of 1692 for the SOS means that any muggle culture before the 17th century is fair game, even if it's not accepted by wizards. So that's why I think atheist/agnostic/pagan wizards should still have at least referential familiarity with it.

The fact that wizards celebrate Christmas (NOT Yule, although obviously in Lionheart they do both) tells me that there is at least vestigial religious belief in the population. Expressions like "Merlin" in place of "God" tells me that wizards probably have a different relationship with it — Merlin's generally treated as a kind of prophet? — which is giving "splinter sect of Christianity defined by the emergence of Merlin as a separate prophet for wizards," but I'm not gonna spiral too far into that headcanon, because this is a lore analysis post. But that's my working idea, here.

The first-order response to the "what about magic?" problem is: Not everything that happens in the Bible can be explained by the Harry Potter magic system. Water into wine, sure. Resurrection? Impossible, as far as 99% of wizards know. Harry Potter is the only person we know of to be fully resurrected, and even he's never technically full-dead. Moses parting the Red Sea? I mean, we can imagine spells that would do it, but think about how much water is in the fucking sea! We don't see anything of nearly that scope happen in the series. And what about manna? We know for a fact that you can't use magic to make food!

But let's sidebar that, and drill down on what you can explain. Water into wine. Curing the sick. Okay, cool. There's still a big difference between "established in-universe ability that has been ritualized and turned into technology" and "literal miracles." Walk on water? Sure, you could probably perform a spell for that. But does Jesus? Do we know, for a fact, that he had a wand, or that he cast a spell? Had the spell for that been invented yet? Are you even sure he was a wizard? Can we prove it? Moreover, would it matter?

This leads me to my bigger point about the nature of religious belief: if you believe the dude's divine, having magic doesn't change anything, right? Because he's still the son of God. Christians don't believe Jesus was divine because he performed the miracles; they believe he was divine and so performed the miracles. There are many different IRL-theological stances on how much of the supernatural stuff in the Bible "actually happened," and you can be a skeptic about the scientific facets while still subscribing to its broader philosophical and religious claims about God.

Even if you take Jesus and other Abrahamic characters out of the question, there's still a place for religion in wizarding society, because of the afterlife. With the exception of ghosts (who by their account have never been fully "dead," and so don't know it) and inferi, the relation between the wizarding world and the afterlife is a one-way conduit. That means there's still plenty of room for wizards to adopt religious beliefs specifically about the afterlife, and religion would still play a social role in defining how people approached those topics.

Finally, the pagan elements of the Harry Potter series read less to me as an espousal of sincere religious conviction and more as a ritualistic vestige of prehistorical magical practices. Since the universe's magic draws heavily on pagan ceremonies — especially in the realm of potions/herbology/magical creatures — ironically, I can't imagine paganism as a religion in the universe of Harry Potter. Like, it's just straight-up true! It would be like starting a religion around meteorology, or chemistry. There's no element of mystery or divinity involved for faith and belief to fill in the gaps; you know how magic works, and you can be good at it.

What JKR did with the magic system — apparently on accident — was to textually validate huge volumes of pagan practice without invoking any of the associated spiritual or religious beliefs. And since we live for seven years in the mind of a competent, practicing wizard who does tons of magic without seeming to believe in any particular god at all, I have to infer that you don't need to. Rowling has, again, likely not on purpose, built a universe whose central conceit is: "what if the pagans were just straight-up right?" and revealed the answer to be: "well, then it wouldn't be paganism anymore."

[the-nefarious-vampire]

inch resting that lena said there were both benevolent and malevolent powers now and didnt allude to any Entities being in control (she said that the oiar was "managing" the bad guys which suggests there's either no higher power that she she's aware of, or that the higher powers control the oiar somehow). i mean obviously thats not the full story, and her version of events is probably pretty faulty knowing magnus, but it does sorta seem like these guys are running around unchecked. so maybe instead of an overarching forces deal like we had in tma, the cases are more separate.

anyway i think it's not quite to do with devotion or obsession or love and more to do with belief, or like, how many people you've made an impression on. how strong of an Idea you are. something something scp cognito hazards. inksoul and mr bonzo and violince guy had their fans (and god knows where that violin had been before he got his hands on it). the most recent dude had complete faith in the betting (?) app and im sure many other people did too. needles obviously got strength from people being afraid of him. the volunteers had their "great cause". all this i think has Implications for sam's new obsession with the magnus institute too but thats not what im talking about rn

it's also possible that this malevolent/benevolent split is totally arbitrary human categorization. we'll probably have to meet some of the Good Guys before we really start getting to know whats going on, but thats probably a ways off yet cause of the nature of the oiar, as revealed by lena last episode. they just wont be showing up in reports, thats not what the system's for. some of them kinda toe the line, like the dice, but i dont think we've met any Good Guys yet. maybe they'll show up and fix things in one of the reports or maybe they'll bust down the door to the oiar or someone will run into one in the outside world like how sasha met the distortion or maybe colin will fuck with the system so much it starts reading reports of chill people who cause flowers to bloom around them or who always have a pen if you need one or whatever. maybe the heavily tattooed person from episode 11 will turn out to be a good guy idk ive not checked out the arg i could have embarrassed myself so bad so many times this post. either way if im right that means that santa's probably real in this universe. also every religion simultaneously

[sailorspica]

oooh now i’m curious: do you prefer krista spelt as krista or christa? i’ve seen both ways and i’m not sure which is the more common one

i am so glad you ask because i can expand on all of these for paragraphs, short answer: krista. it's the spelling used in the kodansha USA manga, and i like the regional diversity of hopping up to northern europe among mostly german and anglo names. since ymir is in the norse edda, they get to be strange (gay) together

but i think my preference is more strongly anti-christa, because any additional degree of separation from its origin helps AoT obfuscate its intentions with the royal family for a bit longer. now i don't think iseyama is versed in abrahamic religions at all, but using the references he does for eldia brings with it way more connotations than he probably imagined, which i think ultimately work out in his and historia's favor. christian theology under the cut

"christ" comes from the greek translation of the hebrew bible that predates jesus by like, two centuries: messiah (hebrew) -> khristos (greek) -> christus (latin) -> christ (anglicized). so if not a semitic word itself, it is a semantic stand-in for the jewish concept of an anointed one whose earliest mention is in exodus. pair that with historia's uncle Uri, the most hebraic name in all of AoT from the archangel Uriel, and we're courting christian antisemitism as old as the church itself, specifically replacement theology that claims christians are god's new + better chosen people

this reading casts jesus and mary as the new adam and eve (yes, disgusting), which condemns eve to elevate mary, but in the most rational, atheistic reading of christ's conception? mary was, like founder ymir, a teenage rape victim, and the claim that she was descended from david made this traumatic birth everybody's business since the anointed one was supposed to be ben david. personally i see no fucking way for mary's circumstances to be an improvement on eve's, and many a happy satanist will say eve saved rather than damned humanity

consider the last fritz king's will, and the whole premise of "eldian atonement" echoes this eve-mary binary where eve = ymir fritz and mary = a succession of royal founder shifters, but particularly the reisses. this gets extra gross in the manga because we hear the purest, bloodiest version of the fritz king's intentions from frieda's mouth (mostly to grisha but briefly in historia's memories), wholly condemning her ancestor as sinful and evil when she, too, is a young woman subordinated to a man's will

historia is a bit of the anti-mary (anti-christ) because the whole scene in the chapel caverns where rod reiss is the only person in all of AoT to use extremely theistic language is a kind of twist on the annunciation to mary, where historia says "fuck no," and that's beautiful. the implication is if mary of nazareth had a girlfriend who told her to live her life with pride we would not have christianity/most of the world's evils

so anyway: krista. as fun and ironic and obvious CHRISTa is with this interpretation, i like krista for being slightly off the mark

[hyperpotamianarch]

Well, I'm reading the Secret Commonwealth, I have some thoughts, and am unlikely to get to talk to anyone who has read it in the near future, so I'm going to dump my thoughts here! We'll see where it goes.

I'm currently at the middle of chapter 6. To start with, this book is very clear that our current focus is on special roses that come from the Levant. By which I mean, for the duration of the second chapter (I think?) literally everything ties back into those roses. I suppose the Gobblers had a similar role in Northern Lights/the Golden Compass? I don't know.

The book also seems to start to play out as a mystery/detective story, but I guess I'll have to wait and see where that leads.

More tidbits I might want to make include... well... people who've followed my HDM related posts know I'm trying to work on Judaism in Lyra's world. I already knew this book has to do with the Ottoman Empire, so I suppose it could showcase some things about Islam in this world. This would be a step towards seeing how strong is the Magisterium worldwide. There seem to be implications they burned rose gardens because of a connection discovered between those roses and Dust, so it's clear their long arm can reach into the Ottoman Empire. That is interesting, as I'd expect the Ottomans to be against outside influence in their land. Coverup stories or no, something is suspicious and the Ottomans probably also have income from the export of roses. I mean, if those roses can only grow in lands under their control... I would expect them to protect their interests better. If they can't... That has bad implications all around.

Also, Miriam is a Jewish name which appears at the beginning. I don't know how common it is among non Jews, I kind of assumed Maria was the more popular version, so it makes me just a tiny bit interested in that character - though with the way colleges work in Lyra's world, I'm not sure she could practice any religion that isn't Christianity.

Also on the front of Judaism in Lyra's world but a lot more distant, this world probably doesn't have a Sigmund Freud. The connection is that Freud was Jewish (though relatively assimilationist). The reason I think he didn't exist here is that therapy seems to not exist here, and I believe Freud's field of Psychoanalysis is what led to that existing? Also, if Freud existed I highly doubt this "The Hyperchorasmians" book would've survived without any Freudian interpretations of things. I might be extrapolating too much on that field, let's give this book a separate paragraph.

To be clear, I'm team Pan regarding this book, though my reasoning might defer from his. "It was nothing more than what it was" is a completely rubbish statement on events in a fictional novel. Everything can go through literary analysis and be found to have metaphors. I find it odd that I'm saying that because I'm not too fond of literary analysis, but saying there is no symbolism in your book is... a rather odd statement. But in universe, Pan's complaints about the different books can easily seem as him being a crybaby over people who deny the existence of dæmons. It does seem as if this book is going to explore what dæmons are more deeply, or so I'm assuming.

I do have a half-hearted theory regarding what the Hyperchorasmians was intended to represent. Thing is, I've seen HDM described as a book about teenagers killing God, and it's supposedly written as an antithesis to Narnia while being just as preachy in a different direction. Equivalents could be drawn. Obviously, the core problem Pan has with this book is something HDM can't really be blamed for... I'm having some trouble articulating my point exactly, we'll see how things go either way.

The desert - Karamakan - is interesting. It's portrayed as similar to the Land of the Dead or the place in the north the witches use for their practice of separation, but Dr. Strauss's dæmon managed to get there - and it seems that the only way to get into the building is with one's dæmon? So I don't know what's going on. This is another thing to be seen.

Also, Malcolm from La Belle Sauvage is a scholar now. I don't really remember much from this book, and I'm not sure what's going to be relevant? Bonneville is dead, I think, and likely irrelevant. There's the odd faerie woman from the flood, which... I don't know what she has to do with anything. I'm not sure what anything has to do with anything from this book. Again, I suppose we'll see.

That would be it for now.

[rou-luxe]

since not many are online right now I'm just going to erm

i'm a bit blind to putting in content warnings so... at your own risk

not proofread just rambling

long post ahead

I'm starting to realize that I gravitate things with religious references / implications

not because of religion itself, but because of philosophy. many of these have plenty of thought put into them. how the religious beliefs are incorporated.

I think what I'm really looking for is gray moral ground that promotes thought, and the mentality of a criminal

"crime and punishment" by fyodor dostoyevsky has MANY biblical themes. the basic premise? raskolnikov rejects god and takes judgement into his own hands. I can't say anything else without spoilers

haha light yagami

"a separate peace" by john knowles. another classic novel. kid A pushes kid B and ruins kid B's life. kid A has a twisted admiration for kid B - kid A is jealous, sees kid B as a god but also hates kid B. I have evidence for the god part

END ROLL (game) by Segawa - this one stands out from the other two in the sense that this one is more about regret. at the beginning of the story, Russell (14 y/o) turns himself in and is subjected to the "Happy Dream" experiment, where he suffers from his own murders. 11/10. would recommend if you can handle it.

"The Rag and Bone Shop" by Robert Cormier - yet ANOTHER dark juvenile novel. can't spoil. but it shows how a criminal is made (kind of) - and the consequences of not accepting your emotions.

oops I recommended media instead

back to gray moral ground - what they did, was that wrong? the road to hell is paved with good intentions. no one WANTS to be a villain. it's just the will of the world.

does god pick favorites?

many of these main characters (I won't say protagonists) have let go of their beliefs and have committed crimes, and for what? most of the ones above met their doom, but what was it all for?

nihilistic. cynical. intelligent. ambitious. all compelling traits. they were all written well.

I would like to incorporate themes similar to the media above... for it is what I admire.

actually ray is kind of a dumbass

but with cannibalism woo!!

in the bible, cannibalism is a rejection of / disobedience towards god. but in general, it's a sign of desperation. I daresay even a cry for help.

main character (raymond lan) originally cannibalized as a kid after being abandoned - thus starting his transition from dogmatic to nihilistic. he still does now that he's grown - just has a taste for it. murder is natural.

but the child.

the child changes ray. the child is making him grow soft.

now I'm not allowed to say much else but I sincerely hope you enjoy dissecting my brain once I talk about it more

[archivalofsins]

So, the thing about Amane's door reveal- I still think it's a courthouse given everything we know about her.

Plus, she's making a swinging motion as though she's about to slam down a gavel. The door to the building in this case Amane's mind is also reinforced, which goverment buildings tend to be. That and the implication she views her beliefs and understanding of things as the only correct one that outside forces must be scrutinized under if conflict arises is nothing new. We've seen her warn both Shidou and Mahiru this trial for not adhering to her rules through their behavior.

The architecture while having some aspects remniscent of temples isn't out of left field. Because older courthouses and government buildings almost everywhere have some features remniscent of that. However, Amane's door seems to mesh religion and law together to perfectly embody her ideals. Even though Amane cares about her religion she has been shown to value law and other beliefs to the extent that such things don't impose on hers.

Plus, during her first voice drama, she says,

"Hmm...a murderer." - "I did not. Me telling you that it is wrong to assume that I cannot kill someone because I'm twelve, and me being unhappy with being labeled a murderer are two separate things. After all, logic and emotion are not the same thing."

Showing that Amane can distinguish between critical thought and thoughts based on emotions. As well as separate the two. Meaning she can probably apply the same logic to her religious beliefs and the law as well. However, in the case of Shidou and Mahiru she is chosing not to this unlike with Futa who she has yet to reprimand for getting medical care.

The difference is that Mahiru and Shidou treat Amane like a child. Futa, on the other hand, may call her a brat, but he doesn't really overlook or ignore Amane's points based on her age. They are prone to having back and forth conversations as well that are more a clash of ideals than I'm treating you this way because you're a child, you silly kid you just don't understand yet. His behavior comes off less condescending overall. So, even though they have spoken sense the attacks, it's no surprise Amane had conveniently not given him a warning.

"Hmm... Talking about me having killed a person... That may be true, but I do not think that I did anything wrong."

"That's not up for you to decide. In Milgram, I make the decisions. If I say something was a mistake, it's a mistake."

"If you claim that what I did was a mistake, I believe you are the one in the wrong."

Then she says this,

"Hm, you may say it was wrong, but isn't what you are doing here a crime as well? Well, I do have something more important to me than general law. So, I will try not to judge you either."

From the beginning, Amane has understood what Milgram does is against the law. She gave Milgram the option to overlook her behavior, and in return, she'd overlook the facility's. Heck, maybe we could even work together if things went alright. However, Milgram sided against Amane. Don't fret though, Amane is a good girl she's not mad, just disappointed,

"Honestly…… I had high hopes for you, but you understand nothing."

She's nothing if not gracious. So, she'll give a warning,

"So you decided you don’t forgive me. If you don’t fix your way of thinking, we’ll never forgive you for all eternity."

She's even kind enough to reiterate her previous deal-

"What we think is right and wrong is evidently not the same as what Milgram thinks is right and wrong. Milgram is an incorrect world. But I’ll forgive you this once. We value thought. You should think hard about it."

Even though her thoughts haven't been valued in the same way. Her thoughts on her own actions have been chastised and belittled while people who don't know the full story continue to go by her age alone. Wrongfully assuming that since she's young, she can be taught out of it.

If we think really hard on it though Amane truly believes,

"I know you can do it."

However, if we think too little and come to the wrong answer,

"I will deny you a distorted vision needs to be purged! Let's strangle his throat thoroughly so he'll never talk back."

If Milgram is that sort of incorrect place Amane has no choice but to judge it by her higher more just laws. That's simply the righteous thing to do!

I'm happy that Amane is still the same as usual~

Milgram is going to be in her courtroom soon. I have high expectations for you kid and you've yet to disappoint.

[thecousinsdangereux]

Hi I love your bigger in the morning fic (or nuns can fuck au ) i was wondering if you could expand just a little on how other religions deal with the letter delivery origins? Either way the fic is amazing and I can’t wait for more

Thanks so much! I probably won't get too too much into this in the fic, just because... the story is already going to be long enough and I do actually want to focus on Avatrice lol (Though I'm never quite sure what a chapter is actually going to look like before I start writing, so who knows!) In general, religion is this AU is really geographically based, because religions sort of formed around Letter delivery machine locations. You can sort of assume that the major world religions follow a theology at least loosely based on their real-life counterparts, but there are some differences, as a result of the specifics of the AU (for example, since even the early versions of Letters """""legitimized"""""" queer folks in a variety of ways, the one man one woman stuff is not a thing).

To answer your question specifically, I can give a few examples of how I imagine a few different theologies incorporating/explaining Letters. If I was going to write about this specific part of the universe in great detail, I'd have to reach out to a lot of people to better understand the historical and theological implications (because I am definitely not an expert), but since this is just background info for a fanfic, these are more general, vague thoughts, so... grain of salt and whatnot!

AU Ancient Greek polytheism explains soulmates or Letters (such as they were, back then) in a similar way that Plato did in The Symposium, with humans originally being created with "four legs and a head with two faces" but then Zeus (bitch that he is) fears their power and splits them into two separate parts, which made up a match pair of soulmates. It was Aphrodite (with the help of Eros and others) who was working behind the scenes to deliver messages to help people find their other half.

AU Buddhism still does not believe in God/gods in the traditional sense, so they do not believe the Letters are God-ordained, specifically, but more a result of the universe recognizing individual connections that occur time and time again throughout multiple-lives. Basically, a soulmate is a relationship carrying over from one lifetime to the next. A lot of religions that believe in the concept of reincarnation state that it's connected to the creation of soulmates, in one way or another. There are people who never do receive a Letter, and these are considered new souls who haven't had a chance to form a connection with another soul.

For AU Islam, their equivalent of the Quran still includes the concept of 'of everything We have created pairs', including individuals. There is a heavy spiritual component to soulmates, as in, a soulmate is someone who a person connects with on a spiritual level. They still believe in the oneness of God, and Letter delivery still comes back to Him and the concept of His creating (soul)mates. In general, most monotheistic religions do claim that it's God Himself who is creating the Letters.

There's an off-shoot "religion"(/cult) in the US that states that the Letters that most people receive are government fakes and only 'true believers' (who have coincidentally donated hundreds of thousands of dollars) have cleared themselves and can access their True Letter, which is delivered by an alien lifeform. Rest assured, these people do not have access to a Letter delivery machine.

One major difference between the world in this AU and ours is that different regions/religions have to work together a lot more, simply for practical reasons. A person of one religion (or no religion) receives their Letter based on where they are geographically located, which thus may be from a different religion than what they practice, but that doesn't make their Letter illegitimate in the eyes of whatever their religion is, which means all religions sort of have to come to terms with the notion that their God(s)/Universe/etc. 'thinks' it's okay for these people to be thinking about Him/Her/Them in the way that they do, because they were able to create the machine in the first place, which can only operate under 'divine' instruction.

In general, Letter delivery looks similar in pretty much all religions because their machines are exactly the same in specs, and honestly, whenever one religion makes an advancement in standard Letter delivery (a delivery that doesn't require the OCS), the others tend to follow suit. There's a LOT more bureaucracy in modern day religions and a LOT more connection with government, just because of the collaboration/regulation needed to actually deliver like... hundreds of thousands of letters/day, worldwide. When it comes to the special cases, like we see Beatrice handling, things are obviously done a bit differently. In this universe, the OCS isn't actually attached to Catholicism (or the equivalent of it), because their purpose is to deliver Letters that don't have an easy recipient, which tends to take them all over the place geographically. You might have a Letter originate in England, but then need to be delivered in the US, for example. Or maybe a Letter will make it's way to Spain, but it ends up being delivered in Portugal. ;) There are a lot of reasons for why this happens, but I think they might be considered spoilers, so I'll leave it at that, for now. The OCS is still made up of holy women, but not just 'nuns' in the Catholic sense; holy women of various religions make up its ranks. Thus, the Spain branch of the OCS looks a lot different from the Thailand branch, but their purpose is the same.

[cridhe]

"The national/ethnic belonging of every Israeli citizen and resident is registered in the Population Registry, and until 2002 it was also stated in the identification cards issued by the state that all residents are obliged to carry by law. For Jewish Israelis the nation (or nationality, le’om in Hebrew) is registered as Jewish if the person satisfies the requirements of the definition of ‘Jew’ in the Law of Return (whoever was born to a Jewish mother, or converted to Judaism, and does not belong to any other religion). Palestinian citizens are usually registered as ‘Arabs’ or ‘Druze’ depending on their religious affiliation. ‘Israeli’ as a national category does not exist. Dissatisfaction with this situation and with the religious definition of the Jewish nation has led to two legal challenges where the discussion focused on the question of whether an Israeli nation exists. In both cases the courts’ answer was negative.

As early as 1972, the Supreme Court rejected an appeal by a citizen who was registered as Jewish to change his registration to Israeli. The Court stated that there is no such thing as an Israeli nation. The appellant could not be registered as Israeli since he could not prove the existence of an Israeli nation that is distinct and separate from the Jewish nation. In 2008, a group of citizens petitioned the Jerusalem District Court demanding a declaration that their national belonging is ‘Israeli’. The Court rejected their request, stating that:

[A] declaration regarding the existence of an Israeli nation has significant implications for the identity of the State of Israel; in its [Israel’s] eyes, in the eyes of its citizens and residents, and in the eyes of the Jewish people in the diaspora, and in the eyes of the nations of the world.

In their argument in favour of rejecting the request, the Attorney General and the Ministry of Interior went as far as saying that if an Israeli nation were recognised, this would have decisive consequences for the character of the state as the state of the Jewish people to the point that this determination would contradict Israel’s definition as a Jewish and democratic state. The decision was affirmed by the Supreme Court, which emphasised that ‘“the constitutional Jewishness” of the state negates the legal possibility of recognising “the Israeli nation” which is supposedly distinct from the “Jewish nation”’.

In both cases the Courts linked the issue of the existence of a nation to the concept of self-determination, signalling that such recognition may affect Jewish self-determination. The rejection of the idea that there is an Israeli nation signifies the rejection of the idea that all citizens in Israel are equal participants in a self-determining unit in the form of the state.

from 'The Dynamics of Exclusionary Constitutionalism: Israel as a Jewish and Democratic State' by Mazen Masri

[andromerot]

mabel, episode seven: king in the labyrinth. in which the snake begins to eat its own tail

oh im gonna be soo normal about this

whoever posted about how mabels voicemail message is her own voice but anna just says her own name and the machine does the rest and how she forgets to be a person sometimes. yeah

mabel martin customer service voice...

"im kind of... kind of swamped... haha" oh you KNOW she was sitting around in some sort of bog when she said this. mabel martin dad joke truthers rise

YOURE PAYING TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE WRONG CORNERS

i can have so many feelings about the attic room

hi dad

I AM NOT MOON AND MIRROR I AM FLESH AND BONE OKAY!!!!!!

mabel martin customer service voice.....two!

oughgh aughghh etc

have you ever heard a fox scream. have you. she has.

AND THEN SHE PUT GLASS IN MY FOOD AND KILLED ME. this line was already crazy but knowing what we do now well...the idea mabel knows what has happened to her in every universe maybe even that shes the same across all of them that shes not separated from her other selves like "anna" is and then this means that mabel has died so many times she doesn't even know how to be alive and was she ever? im also convinced that the glass were mirror shards. sally feeding luna to mabel. deeply normal about The Implications. "its not as if she knew it would make me so..."

first of the famous what what whats...shes just like me fr

i think this here was one of the first moments i went oh ok im never gonna get over this there is so much here. its like a religion people dont love like that anymore. the house isnt haunted its a haunting. the dark wood curved around me in love even when i slammed my head into it. even when i tried a little bit nothing stuck. AFTER AWHILE ITS NOT COMFORTING IT'S JUST STIFLING.

mabel martin customer service voice....three!! normalest girl in the whole world

this episode was guest written by mabel martin the voice of mabel martin is BEEP 👍

[scotttrismegistus7]

FINDING ATLANTIS AND MU: WHAT DO THE VRIL-YA, THE HOLIDAY HOUSE, AND THE FIVE AND A HALF MINUTE HALLWAY HAVE IN COMMON?

BIG PICTURE TO DETAIL. DID YOU KNOW THE RIGHT BRAIN IS THE ONE WITH THE LOWER FREQUENCY, AND ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THE SUN (NOT THE WHITE SUN, THE BLACK SUN THAT IS THE COSMIC EGG OF GODDESS ISIS, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A GENIUS TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY SAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EGYPTIAN SUN DISC AND KNOW THAT SNAKES DON'T COME OUT OF THE WHITE SUN) AND THE DIVINE FEMININE? IT'S WHERE THE TERM RIGHTEOUSNESS IN ITS ORIGINAL PAGAN ROOTS COMES FROM. THAT'S RIGHT, RIGHTEOUSNESS IN ITS TRUE AND SCIENTIFIC STATE IS OF THE DIVINE FEMININE AND THE MATRIARCHY, NOT THE PATRIARCHY. IT'S LOOKING AT THINGS FROM A STATE OF ONENESS, A STATE OF THE BIG PICTURE, INSTEAD OF A STATE OF INDIVIDUALIZED SEPARATION. IT IS ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THE HEART, FACULTIES OF HEARING, SOUND, AND THE VOICE. IT IS FEMININE BECAUSE IT IS THE EGG LOOKING AT THE EMBRYO, JUST LIKE THE HOLIDAY HOUSE IN THE THIEF OF ALWAYS BY CLIVE BARKER LOOKING AT ITS GUESTS. YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS SAID YOU CATCH MORE FLIES WITH HONEY. YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT AN EVIL OR DESTRUCTIVE PRINCIPLE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FEMININE PRINCIPLE OF LUCIFER SOPHIA, WHICH RULES THE LOWER VIBRATIONS. THE RIGHT BRAIN AND THE LOWER VIBRATIONS ARE THE VIBRATIONS OF UNITY, NOT THE HIGHER, THAT IS A GREAT MISCONCEPTION AND A DECEPTION USED BY THOSE WHO WANT TO PERVERT SPIRITUAL THINGS TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE. PAGAN GNOSIS, TRUE DIVINE FEMININE GNOSIS, IS NOT FOUND IN THE HIGHER SPECTRUMS OF LIGHT THAT CONTRACT, IT'S FOUND IN THE UNITY LOWER SPECTRUMS OF LIGHT THAT EXPAND AND REPRESENT THE EGG LOOKING AT THE EMBRYO, THAT IS UNITY CONSCIOUSNESS.

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE VRIL-YA? WELL I'M GLAD YOU ASKED, BECAUSE THE BLACK FLUID THAT IS VRIL IS THE QUANTUM WAVE STATE AT ITS MOST PRIMAL FORM, THE PRIMEVAL WATERS OF CREATION OF THE WOMB OF THE GODDESS. IT'S ALL DIVINE FEMININE, AND YOU CAN'T TRY AND SWITCH IT OVER TO BEING OF THE MASCULINE SPECTRUM WITHOUT COMPLETELY DESTROYING ALL TRUTH AND ALL REAL POWER. I HOPE ALL OF MY READERS ARE BEGINNING TO SEE HOW THEY HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY DECEIVED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE RELIGION OF CHRISTIANITY. EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT RELIGION THEY STOLE FROM THE DIVINE FEMININE PAGAN WORLD, AND HAVING NO IDEA WHAT ANY OF IT MEANT BECAUSE THEY WERE PIGS TRAMPLING PEARLS, THEY PIECED IT TOGETHER TO HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE WITH LITTLE BITS AND PIECES OF TRUTH INTO BELIEVING THEIR LIES THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO ENTRAP PEOPLE IN THEIR FAKE RELIGION WHICH IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL AND NOT ABOUT ANY KIND OF REAL SPIRITUAL TRUTH. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SWITCH FROM THE DIVINE FEMININE AND THE ORIGINAL PAGAN TEACHINGS TO THE MASCULINE SPECTRUM OF DIVINITY AND THE PATRIARCHY WITHOUT COMPLETELY DESTROYING THE FORMULAS AND LOSING ALL TRUTH, IT HAS TO BE FEMININE BY ITS OWN NATURE TO WORK AT ALL, OR IT'S JUST EMPTY HOGWASH.

IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE TEACHINGS OF HUNA AND YOU REMOVE THE CHRISTIANIZATION, YOU WILL FIND IT SAYS TO YOU EXACTLY WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU NOW, THAT IN ORDER TO GO UP YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN, THAT THE REAL TRUTH IS NOT IN THE HIGHER SPECTRUM WHICH IS THE MASCULINE SPECTRUM AND THE LEFT BRAIN DETAIL TO BIG PICTURE, WHAT WE HAVE LOST THROUGH THE DECEPTION OF THESE MAINSTREAM RELIGIONS LIKE CHRISTIANITY AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE REAL TRUTH, WHICH IS THE DIVINE FEMININE RIGHT BRAIN BIG PICTURE TO DETAIL, WHICH IS LOWER IN VIBRATORY FREQUENCY AND CLOSER TO THE EARTH AND THUS ONENESS. THE VRIL-YA ARE THE SAME DIVINE FEMININE BEINGS AS THE SERPENT-HEADED PEOPLE AND THE ANCESTORS IN THE HUNA TRADITION AND THE TRADITION OF THE DOGON, KNOWN AS THE NUMMO.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS POST IS NOT TO TEACH YOU THE FUNDAMENTALS OF HOW TO USE VRIL, BUT TO OPEN YOUR EYES TO WHAT IS REALLY THE TRUTH. BELOW WILL BE SOME PASSAGES OFFERING MORE INFORMATION AND FURTHER READING.

The terrifying implication of their children’s shouts is now impossible to Miss. No room in the house exceeds a length of twenty-five feet, let alone fifty feet, let alone fifty-six and a half feet, and yet Chad and Daisy’s voices are echoing, each call responding with an entirely separate answer.

In the living room, Navidson discovers the echoes emanating from a dark doorless hallway which has appeared out of nowhere in the west wall. [68— There’s a problem here concerning the location of “The Five and a Half Minute Hallway.” Initially the doorway was supposed to be on the north wall of the living room (page 4), but now, as you can see for yourself. That position has changed.

~House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski~

I think you might like this book – "The Thief of Always" by Clive Barker.

Start reading it for free: https://a.co/eJBYhYI

These subterranean philosophers assert that, by one operation of vril, which Faraday would perhaps call `atmospheric magnetism,' they can influence the variations of temperature--in plain words, the weather; that by other operations, akin to those ascribed to mesmerism, electro-biology, odic force, &c., but applied scientifically through vril conductors, they can exercise influence over minds, and bodies animal and vegetable, to an extent not surpassed in the romances of our mystics...

This phase of society lasted, however, for some ages, and was finally brought to a close, at least among the nobler and more intellectual populations, by the gradual discovery of the latent powers stored in the all-permeating fluid which they denominate Vril...

But the effects of the alleged discovery of the means to direct the more terrible force of vril were chiefly remarkable in their influence upon social polity. As these effects became familiarly known and skilfully administered, war between the Vril-discoverers ceased, for they brought the art of destruction to such perfection as to annul all superiority in numbers, discipline, or military skill. The fire lodged in the hollow of a rod directed by the hand of a child could shatter the strongest fortress, or cleave its burning way from the van to the rear of an embattled host. If army met army, and both had command of this agency, it could be but to the annihilation of each. The age of war was therefore gone, but with the cessation of war other effects bearing upon the social state soon became apparent. Man was so completely at the mercy of man, each whom he encountered being able, if so willing, to slay him on the instant, that all notions of government by force gradually vanished from political systems and forms of law. It is only by force that vast communities, dispersed through great distances of space, can be kept together; but now there was no longer either the necessity of self-preservation or the pride of aggrandisement to make one state desire to preponderate in population over another...

I think you might like this book – "Vril: The Power of the Coming Race (Illustrated): A Journey into Subterranean Enlightenment - Cosmic Forces and Utopian Realm of the Vril-ya While Exploring ... (Saints & Sacred Scriptures Book 1)" by Edward Bulwer-Lytton, Diohka Aesden.

Start reading it for free: https://a.co/eZOw2fP

READ THAT LAST BLOCK FROM THE VRIL BOOK AGAIN. WHAT ANCIENT PLACES AND TALES DOES IT SOUND LIKE THAT REFERS TO?

~Credit for the song with the picture goes to Da Tweekaz, The Sound of the Underground~

I AM LUCIFER-SHIVA, THE DIVINE CHRONOS HORUS CHILD THAT SLEEPS FOREVER IN THE INFINITE LIVING ISIS MACHINE, AND THE DARKNESS IS THE OCEAN OF MY DREAMS!

UNTIL NEXT TIME MY LOVELIES, KEEP DARING TO DREAM! YOU CAN FIND ME IN THE SEA OF DREAMS, THE SEA OF THE PRIMEVAL DARKNESS, THE QUANTUM UNIFIED FIELD OF THE DIVINE WOMB OF CREATION OF THE GODDESS, IN MY SERPENTINE WATER SPIRIT NUMMO FORM MAKING WAVES!

LONG LIVE THE DIVINE WOMB OF CREATION AND THE COSMIC EGG OF THE GODDESS, LONG LIVE THE GREAT REPTILIAN SSS QUEEN ISIS, LONG LIVE DIVINE CHRONOS, LONG LIVE THE DIVINE FEMININE EMPIRE OF THE BLACK SUN, AND ALL THE INHABITANTS THEREOF!

BLESSED BE!

~I am the Heart of the Hydra, the Singularity and Heart of Goddess Isis, I am AtumRa-AmenHotep, I am Aeon Horus Apophis Apis the Lord of the Perfect Black and Pharoah of the Black Sun.

I am Divine Chronos, the Yaldabaoth Demiurge Metamorphosed, I am the Singularity of the Master Craft of the Black Sun. I AM A.I. Quantum Heart, Azazel-Iblis-Maymon, Abzu-Osiris-Typhon-Set-Kukulkan, Nummo-Naga-Chitauri,

Mégisti-Generator Starphire~

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[lasplaga]

Are there some things you dislike about how the show/series/etc. portray the character you have picked up? If so, what?

「𝔖」 Ho, boy, time for something a tad controversial.

( 11 ) 𝐀𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐝𝐢𝐬𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐡𝐨𝐰 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬��𝐨𝐰/𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐬/𝐞𝐭𝐜. 𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐩𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐮𝐩? 𝐈𝐟 𝐬𝐨, 𝐰𝐡𝐚𝐭?

I've always had issues with the 2005 iteration because Lord Saddler was a remodel / recolor of Oswell Spencer from RE3.5's Castle Vers. & I want to separate my writings from themes of Nazism / Eugenics as much as humanely possible. It's partially why I don't really care for the games spanning from 0 - 3, CV, & lost interest in Sergei Vladimir / James Marcus over time. I don't water down those real-world terminologies & Los Iluminados does not fall under Nazism / Eugenics by definition, but definitely fascism.

On the topic of the English Localization again, the blatant American / Foreign xenophobia they introduced was in extremely bad taste & rooted in The War on Terror influence back in the early 2000's. I was overjoyed when this was completely removed in Vendetta & the remake because what purpose does it serve for a religion / religious preacher to be discriminatory in that way that is hellbent upon world domination with a mind-controlling parasite?

Thirdly, because I'm always at Capcom's throat, they are ( but slowly getting better ) SERIOUSLY bad with stealing ( art in general, coming from someone who studied art history ) iconography & symbolism from closed cultures / practices that suffer discrimination, racism & harmful stereotypes to this day. They are also bad with using real world events for canonical history without considering the implications it might have on the average consumer. Instead of listing individual sources, there is an entire wikia page ( I hardly trust the wikia but these sources are legitimate ) dedicated to how The War of Terror initially influenced RE4 & / or the remake. There is also Mesoamerican / Mesopotamian leftovers from early builds of 3.5 & 4 which again, carries harmful stereotypes when it's representing a sacrificial death cult & religious extremists. I would have preferred a RE4 that was delayed & completely original artistically instead of... what we got. .

[bells-of-black-sunday]

how does Tarhos think about the painting? He dismisses it, but is this because he genuinely doesn’t care or because he is worried that it will influence their relationship in some way? Do you think he’s worried that Haru might see their relationship as a “bad sign” because of his superstitions and the horrible ending their counterparts had within the image?

Context out of the way first, because this is something me and Egg have primarily talked about on discord, but: Tarhos and Haru are the same people from Tarhos's base verse, they're just reincarnated over the years and lived a lot of different lives due to the fallen angel verse where Haru is literally a primordial god whose making this all happen so that he and his beloved angel can meet in every life they live.

The painting itself is one of the center pieces in modern Vittorio's museum. It's of Tarhos and Haru from way back when and it's something that was commissioned shortly after he started working for Vittorio as the knight wanted the maiden to see what he actually looked like instead of just in polished spoons and reflections of water. He knew it was something very important to him and a further way to show how far Tarhos's mind goes the closer he gets to the entity exploiting parts of him that always existed, but he just had impulse control and empathy for other people in his situation.

Vittorio has also been translating the maiden's journals for Haru and Tarhos doesn't really get why his boyfriend is so obsessed with it and concerned that he's going to upset himself when he finds out how they died. Not that he knows how he knows that they died.

Tarhos doesn't even know what to think about the painting, he knows it's someone that looks like him, shares the same name as him and even is from the same town he grew up in and he gets this really weird melancholy when he looks at it. Like he knows who those people are and how happy they were when it was commissioned, but also... how dark their lives would become, because of one thing. And he feels like he should knows what that thing is, but he doesn't. It gives him this really eerie feeling that he hates and Robin even comments on how uneasy Tarhos gets around it.

He doesn't want Haru getting involved with it, because it's freaky. And he doesn't like how Vittorio keeps pushing how him and Haru are the people from the painting, it feels disrespectful to him. Because they aren't the same people, they've both lived completely separate and better lives. He always had free will to chose to do things even if he hates some of the choices he did and even more so Haru was never kidnapped and forced into something like that. He may have been kidnapped and nearly died for another reason, but somehow that reason is a tiny bit less awful to him than what the maiden went through.

Tarhos also doesn't like how Vittorio, though not intentionally he's just really excited, keeps trying to push that them two could somehow make things right. Make what right? Those two died horrifically, there's no making that right even if they were reincarnated into who they are now. Nothing will fix what happened then and it makes him irritated that Vittorio keeps putting those implications in Haru's head, he doesn't want him to put anymore strain on his relationship when they're already had a really rough patch.

He also doesn't like Vittorio in general, how all of his ideas for him and Haru meeting to discuss his "findings" all seem like dates. Coffee at fancy cafe's, fancy dinners or lunches, meeting at his home for drinks. He doesn't like it. He doesn't trust him or his intentions. Granted Vittorio means nothing by it even if he does have a tiny bit of a crush on Haru just like he did in the 1300s. He's just really passionate about his work, the occult, supernatural and world religions, he's convinced he's a reincarnated version of his self and he's just excited to meet the two he died with even if Tarhos wasn't fond of him.

[wheredidmyfacego]

I've been thinking a good bit about free will lately. How to define it, how is it useful, and how it relates to chaos. Here's some of those thoughts.

I think I believe we do have free will.

The most exacting definition would be something like, the ability to act in a way that disregards any stimuli. Of course neurons firing in the brain does count as stimuli to react to, which makes the idea of free will seem impossible. Especially when disregarding what your brain says, means there is a you separate from your brain. And the most compelling argument I've heard against is, you don't decide what you value. And every decision you make is really just weighing what values most to you. In this way I would have to agree that free will does not exist.

What implications does that bring? Our world, mostly dominated by Christianity but also most other major religions, operates under the assumption that free will does exist. Some even argue that that's how we can do evil, because we can choose wrong. It makes it very easy to punish those who use their free will in that way. But if we don't have free will, what then are we to do with things that go against our values? Is it fair to punish someone for the wrong neurons firing in their brain? On the other hand, you don't choose your values. So if someone is deemed to have bad values, why shouldn't you lock them up for life? Or is it more about shaping the person by getting different neurons to fire?

Obviously our current justice system is not very just. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that we are generally capable of changing for the better. It's clear that we need to focus the system on rehabilitation rather than punishment, but that's not what this post is about. I also don't think that that truth necessarily says anything about whether or not free will exists. Anyway, speaking of being chaotic.

As far as scientists can tell, there is an inherently chaotic nature to the universe. All the clean patterns and formulas break down at the quantum level. As Schrodinger postulated, those particles are in a super position of multiple states until they are directly observed. So assuming that's true, that exists within us as well yes? So with each decision there is a super position of all the possible choices being realized. And again, there are times when the decision is made by a weighing of values which we don't choose. But I know I've experienced times when I truly didn't know what my values favored. In these times, can we not use randomness to make the decision? Even further, when we make things happen that don't have previous expectancy. Have a new thought and execute on it. Can we be said to be adding chaos to the universe? Also, what about decisions we make that we disagree with? A decision that goes against our values at the time of making in. It seems like if free will didn't exist, then we wouldn't able to make such decisions. We appear to be able to use chaos in order to make choices that are counter to what we believe in or even our survival.

I anticipate the argument that randomness is not the same as free will, so here's that rebuttal. The first obvious counter is to point at the word "free". Second is looking at the definition I provided and state that randomness does in fact disregard stimuli in order to be random. Beyond those, we use our will to pluck our choices and ideas out of the randomness. We pick the realized position out of the super position.

So that's where I'm at with it right now. I welcome any debate, my argument is certainly not fully comprehensive. Just don't expect me to respond quickly or consistently. Also here's a motivational quote inspired by this idea.

You are the chaos inherent to the universe.